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Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 8:23 PM Sunday, November 28, 1993
Subject: December Dates!

Hope you all had a happy Thanksgiving.

I ended up only catching one Dave show while I was home for break.  I went
to Virginia Beach and saw Dave at the Peppermint Beach Club.  the show was
good but I ended up not having a place to stay so the car it was. :(
That was the only down-side but I'm young and will bounce back. :)

Here's the setlist:
Set I = 55 mins             Set II
One Sweet World             Minarets
Trippin Billies             Lover Lay Down 
Granny			    Lie in our Grave
Satellite                   jimi thing
Help Myself                 Seek Up
Jane's Song                 Pay for what you get
Dancing Nancies             What would you say   
True Reflections            Warehouse

Probably the only bummer for me was that there was no encore.  Not sure
why, maybe they were out of time (forgot to check) or something like that?

I was planning to go to the Bayou show in D.C. but a number of things
ended up stopping me.  First, I was broke.  Second, the friend I was
staying with was rather ill (from sleeping in the car the night before :(
Third, it was raining and I had my deck.  Fourth, the Bayou SUCKS.  I knew
that if I wanted to get in I would have to wait outside the Bayou for
awhile (I hate waiting) with my deck and it was raining.  Anyway, who
cares why I couldn't go to the Bayou.  I'm just rambling.  

Anyway, here are the dates as of yesterday:
29M: JMU
30T: Trax
1W: F.Z.
2T: Viginia Tech
3F: Flamingo's-Knoxville
4S: Vanderbilt-Nashville
5S: Tuscaloosa, AL
6M: ?
7T: Trax
8W: F.Z.
9T: ?
10F: Irving Plaza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11S: Williams College
12S: ?

28T:Teradactyl Club-Charlotte,N.C.
31F:Marriot Hotel-Richmond

these are directly from Michael so I'm assuming the dates that have "?"
beside them are tentative.  I'll let the net know if I hear anything more.

alex Crother

Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 10:40 PM Sunday, November 28, 1993
Subject: hey y'all!

Is everyone back from thanksgiving.  Good.  NOW maybe someone wants to
tell me more about John Alagia.  Come on.  Fess up.  Someone out there
must have heard of Derryberry & Alagia.  SOMEONE???  (come on, how about
you DMB office people?

And where's the bloody December schedule?  the month starts in less than
50 hours!

Sorry.  enough complaining.  I had a terrible trip back up here.  Hope
your weekends were all good.

Bye for now.


------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------

Posted By: klong@sura.net
Time/Date: 9:10 AM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 37

I've heard of Derryberry & Alagia.  They have played the DC/Baltimore
area quite frequently.  I haven't seen them, though.  Wasn't sure
of their sound.  

Anyway, I certainly would love to see DMB someplace else besides the
Bayou.  I went to Tornado Alley this weekend to see Tom Princapato
record a live album.  It was great and it would be a great place to
see DMB or one of the other bands.  


Time/Date: 11:12 AM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: the dave matthews interview at jmu tonight...

hey folks, this probably won't make it to any digestified subscribers
in time, but i thought i'd try to let as many people as possible know
that the interview is going to be at 5pm, not 4 as posted originally.
that's all i have time for fer now, gotta go to philosophy 101(yeehah)
rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...

Time/Date: 11:32 AM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 37

does anyone know if the last two songs on the album were recorded at the max
american indian benefit from the end of the summer?  that was a great affair,
with all of my favorite cville bands, including the world famous hogwaller
ramblers.  anyway, dave and tim reynolds did those two songs alone, and they
were smoking.  i know that the album does not mention max, but hey, max, trax,
whats a couple of letters between friends?
on another note, me, ed, and drew here from the net were SEVERELY dissapointed
wednesday night when we got to the floodzone after a long drive, only to find
it sold out, with at least two hundred people outside still clamoring to get
in.  jesus!  what it the capacity of the fz?  i guess this is what happens when
you put out a great disc, but hell, i missed my only chance to see them for a
while.     dave

Posted By: cecliff@vt.edu
Time/Date: 1:26 PM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: flood zone; wed...

this is my first time posting...be gentle on me:)
the show at the flood zone was incredible.  it may be because it was the 
first time i'd seen the band live since aug.  and being at va tech, i don't 
have access to trax on tues nights.   
all can imagine that i had been suffering a bloody withdrawal.
	came wednesday...i was psyched as shit!!! my heart was beating all day, 
and i was on a euphoric natural high.  i was also excited cause i was going 
to see rick, who i knew would be in his usual spot. i dragged down a friend 
of ours that rick and i had been harassing ALL SUMMER LONG to go and see dmb.
	when we were walking up around 10:10, one sweet world was playing. i 
started jumping around and singing...more or less acting like a crazed freak.
the line was half a block long at that time..a little unusual.  we got in line,
and one minute later, it was a block longer than before. the reason being all 
the students (like me) home for break.
	i think rick was freaked to see joe along w/me.  we took our place
front and left-center.  dave was playing great, and carter was amazing. i 
especially loved the intro to halloween, which was clearly a pleasant surprise
to hear, what with all the fuss about it not having been played for some time.
	except for the assholes to our right who kept throwing beer into 
the air, and later spurring up a mosh pit, the show was awesome.  i'm still 
coming down. joe loved it, bought the cd, and was totally impressed with the 
style range that the band offers. 
	although i was selling my soul to hear lover lay down , or pay for 
what you get neither was played. (sigh....) BUT...I GET TO SEE THEM THURSDAY, 
HERE, AT TECH!!!!!  sorry i don't have the setlist for wed, but i was jammin
way to hard to think about remembering.  i was too busy experiencing.
let your soul soar,

Time/Date: 4:29 PM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: John Alagia

I had the great privelege of meeting Mr. Alagia on the first night
that he was mixing songs for the new CD.  I was over at Alagia's house
at the invitation of the band's lawyer Christopher Sabec who happens
ot be a friend of mine.  It was quite an experience.  Most of the
night John was recording "Ants Marching" but he let me listen to many
of the digital tapes with the other songs that were going to be on the
album.  John is very dedicated to perfecting the Band's music and is
almost as big of a fan as I am.  He told me of his band Derryberry and
Alagia and that his band played over here at Georgetown a bunch.  I
believe that he is a grad of Gtown College of Arts and Sciences from
1983.  Don't quote me.  Anyway, he's a great guy if you ever get a
chance to talk to him.
Jamie Cogbill

Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 4:35 PM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: thanks

thank you to all who have responded about John Alagia.  


------------- Ben Tanen ------------- btanen@husc.harvard.edu -------------

Posted By: blakec@wyvern.wyvern.com
Time/Date: 5:20 PM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: Flood Zone Setlist and Comments...

Here's the setlist for last Wednesday night.  The show was fantastic and
tapes shouldn't be to hard to find because there were like 10 people
including myself taping.  No DATS though.

Soundcheck: One Sweet World

First Set

Tripping Billies
One Sweet World
Song that Jane Likes
Help Myself
Dancing Nancies
Lie in our Graves
What would you say?
True Reflections (with rappers and DJ)

Second Set

Seek Up
Quick Lay and Goodbye

Encore:  Ants Marching

A fine show.  Hi to all the Net people I met, sorry if I wasn't coherent but
I was a wee bit drunk.

Comment to Alex's Peppermint setlist...Lot's of _strange_ Davetalk, he spoke
in tongues 4 or 5 times.


                           Blake Campbell  

Time/Date: 6:27 PM Monday, November 29, 1993
Subject: RE: MINARETS digest 37

Urp, sorry about the subject line...

Anyway, I'm planning on seeing DMB this upcoming weekend in Knoxville at
Flamingo's... anyone else planning on going?  Anyone know what the place
is like?  ie: size, security, etc...

Thanks in advance,

Time/Date: 12:12 PM Tuesday, November 30, 1993
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 38

does anyone out there have any tapes left over from an earlier era of the
Boyd Tinsley Band, or Down Boy Down?  i never remember seeing any tapers, but
both Boyd backed groups had a pretty substantial local following, and i would
love to get my hands on some recordings.  get in touch with me if you do, i
have lots of new stuff to trade (thnks gregg, nick, and ed!)  :)  dave

Time/Date: 2:43 PM Tuesday, November 30, 1993
Subject: presenting the ants marching card...never leave a dmb show without it.

ya know...
yesterday was one of the busiest days of my life.  i had to wake up
at 6:30am and drive 2 hours back to the burg, spend the entire morning
either working for classes or going to classes, then spend the entire
afternoon working out an impromptu interview with dave matthews.  life
anyway, the interview was definitely way cool.  dave was in prime form
as far as dave talk goes, and if you get(or got) a chance to hear it,
let me just say he toned himself down while he was on the air.  topics
off the air ranged from how great a song drive in, drive out really is,
to masturbation.  he answered a few silly, general questions about
himself and the band, then played lie in our graves for us.  after
that i kind of made him play best of what's around and it was just
insane to be able and sit in the same room and listen to dave matthews
completely unplugged.  we didn't have any moniters running, so we didn't
know or care what it sounded like over the air, that was for the guys
in the on air studio to worry about.  i was in heaven, and to top it off,
he was playing my guitar.  (i'm having it gold plated right now...;)
after that we wandered across the quad and back up to wilson and just
kind of sat around for a while.
the opening of the show was the one of the coolest things i've ever
seen dave matthews do.  he and tim reynolds just sat up on stage for
forty minutes playing acoustic versions of songs like recently, minarets,
and of course, i'll back you up and christmas song tim reynolds also did
a couple of really sick originals.
as for the show itself, it was probably one of the best dmb shows i've
ever seen as far as energy goes.  they played a pretty much "remember
two things" set, but they surprised us by ending the set with halloween.
wow.  after they left the stage we cheered them back out for an encore,
and dave came out and played quick lay and goodbye/coyote love/just for
tonight/whatever the hell you want to call it.  then we sat back and
waited casually for carter to begin ants marching, because i have a feeling
that if they don't play ants, they'll start to twitch from withdrawal after
the show.  (i like ants, but it's getting a bit tiresome).  i'll try to
post the entire setlist later today, but a five hour stint with the local
dining facilities awaits me.  (oooh, the places i'll work to have a spare
7 bucks on a tuesday night.)
as far as copies of this show go, it seems that jeff(sp?)  wasn't quite
ready for the acoustics of such a new, big place.  it sounded phenomenal
in the auditorium, but it just didn't stick to the tape like we were
hoping.  john algia showed up, though, with his dat recorder, so he's
going to take it home and remix it, and hopefully we'll be able to get
a prime copy in circulation.  i can say right now not to send me any
grovels because my tape deck no longer works, so i have to go through
other sources to get my own tape.
i just realized how longwinded i'm getting, so i won't talk about how
great a guy john algia is unless you want to ask me directly in e-mail...
rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...

Posted By: gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 5:03 PM Tuesday, November 30, 1993
Subject: Sat. Night in Tenn.

The show on Saturday night in Nashville is NOT at Vanderbilt, it is at a
club called the Cannery.  I will be there so email me if you need
directions.  I think that it costs $5 or $6.  Graham

Posted By: cecliff@vt.edu
Time/Date: 9:51 PM Tuesday, November 30, 1993
Subject: thursday's show at tech

anyone interested in the thursday show at tech, it'll be at squires student 
center.  doors open at 7pm, and dave takes the stage at 8.
tix are 5$ for tech students, and 8$ otherwise.
if any other netters are going, get in touch w/me, we can shoot-the-shit:)!!
let your souls soar..
clare emily clifford

"...let's move to the beat like we know that it's over
if you slip going under, slip over my shoulder..."
-the cure-

Time/Date: 3:58 PM Wednesday, December 1, 1993
Subject: Sat. in Nashville

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but he show in Nashville on Saturday
is a closed party.  It is a fraternity party, and random fans will not
be able to come in.  Sorry guys, any questions email me.

Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 6:35 PM Wednesday, December 1, 1993
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 39

I am convinced that Halloween is never again going to be played in
Charlottesville.  I've seen it once the past 15 or so times I've been to Trax
(over the past 6 or so months.) Last night was a perfect time to play it
(very few people, no assholes) but they did the same old encore Ants Marching
they've been doing EVERY week. Could somebody please tell them to retire that
song. It's boring as shit.

Posted By: blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu
Time/Date: 7:04 PM Wednesday, December 1, 1993
Subject: Re: Ants Marching/Boring

Kerry Kriger
> I am convinced that Halloween is never again going to be played in
> Charlottesville.  I've seen it once the past 15 or so times I've been to Trax
> (over the past 6 or so months.) Last night was a perfect time to play it
> (very few people, no assholes) but they did the same old encore Ants Marching
> they've been doing EVERY week. Could somebody please tell them to retire that
> song. It's boring as shit.
> -Kerry

I wish I had the luxury of finding one of Dave's songs boring.  If you
get sick of his encores, you must see them frequently enough that you
can afford to leave 10 minutes earlier, and skip the encore.  I've
only had the opportunity to see them 6 times since I first heard them
in 1992, and wish they'd come this way more often, instead of playing
for the people who get bored with them.


Daniel Blanchat           "One should always retain some control over his
blanchad@hamlet.uncg.edu   actions, for when we act on instict alone we
blanchat@plato.uncg.edu    become as the demons that wish to become us."

Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 7:14 PM Wednesday, December 1, 1993
Subject: New Dates!!!!!

I just got this updated list of dates.
Hope it helps out.

12/2      Squires Center  -  Blacksburg (Va Tech)
12/3      Flamingo's  -  Knoxville, TN
12/4      The Cannery  - Nashville, TN (this might be a private party, Im not
sure how the sponsors are working it, write if you need more info)
12/5      Ivory Tusk  -  Tuscaloosa, AL (again this might be a private party,
call the club or write back if you need)
12/7    Trax  -  Cville, VA
12/8     FZone  -  Richmond, VA
12/10   Irving Plaza  -  NYC, NY Tix available from Tix Master $10/$12
12/11    Williams College, Williamstown, MA
12/12 - 12/26  OFF 
 (Dave and Tim are playing at the Jefferson Theatre in Cville on Sunday, Dec
12/27 private party  -  Charlotte, NC
12/28  Teradactyl Club, Charlotte, NC
12/29  Ziggy's  -  Winston-Salem, NC
12/31  Marriott Hotel  -  Richmond, VA
1/3      Variety Playhouse  -  Atlanta, GA
1/6       Ice Arena  -  Vail, CO  (with the Samples)
1/7       Snowmass Conference Center, Aspen, CO (with the Samples)
1/8        Double Diamond  -  Aspen, CO
1/9        Garton's  -  Vail, CO
1/12       Josha's  -  Breckenridge, CO
1/13      The Inferno  -  Stemaboat Springs, CO
1/15      Fox Theatre  -  Boulder, CO
1/16      Fox Theatre  -  Boulder, CO

alex Crother

Posted By: fostekc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 10:37 PM Wednesday, December 1, 1993

                First of all I am sure you are glad that I refrained from
all caps (I was worried you were not reading).  Anyway what ever happened
to the two trees? I was on both and one of them  supposedly started a while
back.  I have received no news concerning either!  I know that these things
take a while to complete but I don't want to be left off.  Could someone
send me info, 

slap that drummer in the face with a pie that smells


Time/Date: 1:21 AM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: "Don't walk away!" Dave!

Jeez, I'm kinda upset that Dave is hitting the road.  The only time I
could reasonably see him is the 31st at the Marriott.  Although I've
heard that you have to be 21 to get into that show.  Could someone who
has more info on that show please type me and tell me why it costs
$41.00?  What is going to be different about that show?  I'd love to
see him, but on college funds its just kind of hard.
P.S.--I don't think I'll really ever get tired of Ants Marching cuz
when I listen to that song "my concerns I forget them."  I don't think
I would wanna play Halloween if I were Dave just because of the mere
fact that some idiots ruin a lot of the concert by yelling
"Halloween!!!" throughout the whole show and they don't deserve to
hear it.  I agree its a very intense and exciting song, but I don't
really feel I've missed something if he doesn't play that song.  For
one because I can't even tell what he's saying, and second because
every other song is just as good or better.
Jamie Cogbill

Posted By: dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
Time/Date: 6:25 AM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: 10/26 Tree status

I'm still working on the tree.  Thanks for any patience any of you
can muster.  Remember, I'm in school, too, and have exams coming up.  I'll
get it posted ASAP.


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:36 AM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: Re: NYE

I'm finding more information out but the way I understand it as of now is
you pay a 'flat fee' of $40-$41 (somewhere around there) and you get all
the alcohol and food you want.  I'm assuming you must be 21.  I'm not sure
if there is a special option if you're not 21.  That's one of the things
I'm finding out.  Also I believe the show is semi-formal-coat and tie.

If you think about how much you would noramlly spend on NYE I don't think
that this is an unreasonable price.  You get all the food and drink you
want (I think. Again, don't quote me on this, I'm only speaking
'unofficially' right now).  Who doesn't think they will drink/eat $40
worth of food/alcohol????????? Plus you get the show.  The show alone is
worth $15-20 so that leaves the rest of the $40 as you're meal and
alcohol.  I don't know, but I don't think it's that big of a deal.  I
guess if you think its too expensive, don't come.  However, it should be a
pretty cool event.

I'll post new info as I get it.

alex Crothers

Time/Date: 1:18 PM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: The Cannery show...

Can anyone give me extra info on this show?
eg: where is the place?  Is it a private show?  etc, etc...
I'll be coming back thru Nashville either Sat or Sun, and figured I
might just catch them again if possible.


Time/Date: 3:45 PM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: halloween, christmas, and new year's eve...

as far as seeing halloween, i would say that things are looking up,
but dave won't be playing there enough to really say fer sure.  somehow
i've had the luck to see them play it twice in the past 10 days.  now
i'll be lucky if i can see the band play anything at all in the next
month or so.
as far as christmas goes, hey, only 22 shopping days left. (it just
made for a catchy subject line...)
as far as new years eve goes, the show is not necessarily "the dave
matthews band new years blow out."  it's actually more of a "richmond
marriot new years blow out featuring dmb."  your being charged more for
the sake of hangin' out at a hot spot for nye more than to see dmb.
also, once your in the front door, you won't have to sport another buck
for your beloved ethyl.  free drinks, all night(so i've heard).  and
when you think about it, you could easily blow $30 bucks (+$10 for
a cover anywhere but festival park) on drinks on nye.
but alas for me, being a poor 20 year old, i'll be stuck in festival
park freezing my ass off watching wrva(adult contemporary) sponsor a
big band fest.
and for the sake of making this post longer than it really needs to be:
i don't agree with kerry that ants is a boring song.  i think it's a
phenomenal song, lyrically, structurally, everythingly...but come on
already.  out of the some 25 times i've seen dmb, i've seen them play
ants about 117 times.  and for the sake of devil's advocate against
people who haven't seen them play ants live, they have a bad habit of
making it sound _exactly_ like the cd, so just turn it up and close your
eyes.  i'd really like to see an encore consist of cry freedom followed
by drive in, drive out.
rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...

Time/Date: 4:07 PM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: Dave on the radio in Richmond

Hello fellow Dave worshippers,
Recently, when I was back in Richmond for Tgiving break I was somewhat
disturbed to find that the local radio stations were not too intent on
playing the new DMB cd on the radio.  Anyhow so I called WVGO (106.5)
to request it and they said that the new CD was not getting enough
support for to play it.  So I wanted to use this opportunity to
utilize our net and plead with my fellow fans to call the station and
request DMB!  The number for WVGO 106.5 fm is (804) 345-0106.  The
number for XL102.1 fm is 345-WRXL or 345-9795.  Please show your
support and call the stations and request DAVE!
Jamie Cogbill
P.S.---> a good idea would be to request "Christmas Song" due to the
fact that its name and the season might get it more playing time.

Posted By: blakec@wyvern.wyvern.com
Time/Date: 5:46 PM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: DMB Flood Zone Dec. 1st

Here's the setlist for last night.  I might have missed a song or two
because I wrote it down on a pizza box while driving back from Richmond this
morning.  It's hard to listen to a tape, eat a slice of cold pizza, and
label at the same time (try it!)

I  Drive in, Drive out (Solo)
   Quick Lay and Goodbye (Solo)
   Seek Up
   Help Myself
   What would you Say?
   Dancing Nancies
   Typical Situations

II One Sweet World
   Tripping Billies
   Lie in our Graves
   Jimi Thing
   True Reflections (with rappers)
Encore: Ants Marching (suprise!)

Now that I think about it he played 3 solo songs before Seek up.
I was speeding because I decided to go to class.

Comments:  Dave talked about a call in show on some radio staion where the
listeners were asked to rate the DMB song.  The best response they got was
"Sounds like dogs Fornicating!"  Throughout the show he repeats this in his
"redneck" voice"  also instead of the usual between songs groupie banter
such as "Boyd!" or "Halloween!" people were yelling "Sound like Dogs
Fornicating!"  Funny!

Quick Lay and Goodbye:  The best I've heard yet, it's ready for ensemble
play and a new name.

Seek up/Help Myself:  Carter was going crazy on Drums.  he sounds like 3
drummers on tape.

Jimi Thing:  "down in the back, sun roof top, digging the scene with the
gangster lean wooooohhoooo"

True Reflections:  Killer Rap, the crowd was hoppping.

Ants Marching:  Please stop playing this as an encore.  I'd rather see it as
a second set closer or an OCCASIONAL encore.

Great show, great company.

Time/Date: 6:28 PM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: NYE

I think this is going to work, not sure though.
I havee only seen the Band once(at the Bayou this summer, whats up with the tre
e). Liked them alot. My best friend since forever, sees them every week at the
 floodzone (Steve Gordon, if you know him say HI for me) and gave me tapes of t
he Floodzone record release party last friday. I cant stop listening to them.
So, I need more. Please help me.
Also, how do i go ABOUT getting NYE tickets. 40 dollars seems like a good deal
to me. I might even drtink em out of buisness.
Thanks alot.
Latyer,  Mike

Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 7:43 PM Thursday, December 2, 1993
Subject: More NYE info!!

The New Years show is 21 and up. Its $40 because it is an open bar from 
8 - 1am.  Pretty cool for those over 21 and with ID's but a real bummer for
anyone who is young and just wants to see the music.  Tickets wil be (very
shortly) on sale around Cville, Hburg, Lexington, etc and also on
ticketmaster.  I would definitely recommend advance tickets, the show sold
out last year a couple of days in advance and it looks like this year the
demand will be even higher.  Another cool thing about the night is that
there is a second band Bio Ritmo - a brazilian twelve(+) piece ensemble
that plays fantastic music.  This band will not be opening for Dave but
will have its own ballroom that people can wander back and forth to.

More information forthcoming.
alex Crothers

Time/Date: 12:27 AM Friday, December 3, 1993
Subject: disclaimer for my next post....

hello all my fello marching ants...
i must admit, i'm a bit inebriated right now.  as many of you must
know right now, i'm a disciple of dave, but i've been listening to
phish for the last 45 minutes.  therefore, i've been sitting here
wondering who is the supreme musician/musical artist:  dave
matthews or trey anastasio?
more elaboration will follow, as i plan to make a cross post to
rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...

Time/Date: 12:48 AM Friday, December 3, 1993
Subject: if you've never heard dave matthews band, please disregard...

hello, my name is rick thompson, and i'm not a regular to phish.net,
but a combination of several things has led me to this post...
those things are meister brau, miller high life, a deep rooted passion
for dave matthews, and  an almost as deep rooted passion for phish +
listening to phish for an hour:
at any rate, as just mentioned, i've been listening to trey play his
guitar like only he can for over an hour.  now:  i am, and personally
think i always will be the biggest dmb phan in the (short as so far)
history of dave matthew's musical career.  but i'm caught up in these
strange thoughts right now.
i'm a guitarist myself who finds inspiration from both trey and dave,
so this question is more or less directed to anybody who
has a rhythm oriented guitar playing background:
  who do you think is a better musician/musical artist?
i'm cross posting this to both the phish.net & minarets.net, and i
expect quite a diverse set of replies, so i ask all the die-hard
phish phans who might think that dave sucks to refrain from sending
me a biased opinion.  i'd really like to get some elaborations on
who is better:  trey as the _lead_ guitarist/songwriter/musical
artist that he is to the _rhythm_ guitarist/songwriter/musical
artist that dave is.  i know that it can be hard to compare two
people who are so different in musical style, but, like i said,
i'm looking for as many different viewpoints as possible.
please let me know what you think, and like i said..
if you've never heard dave matthews, or don't like him, and have
a negative view of him, i probably won't think much of what you
have to say.  i'm looking for objective opinions.
rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...

Posted By: dforbis@birch.ee.vt.edu
Time/Date: 8:51 AM Friday, December 3, 1993
Subject: DMB at Virginia Tech 12/2

Really great show.  I'll post the set list a bit later, after I've sorted
it out.   To let you in on a couple of highlights -

1) Ants marching opened the second set (I think), it was not played
   as an encore, because...

2) Halloween was the encore!  From what I gather, he hasn't been playing
   this one in Charlottesville much recently, probably because he's
   sick of hearing everybody screaming for it during the whole friggin

It's been a while since Dave's been in Blacksburg, and people here
for the most part weren't too familiar with all the songs, but he
really blew everyone away.  Picked up a LOT of new fans who had never
heard him before.  Overall, it was a successful and exciting show.

"Set list later"

Time/Date: 10:46 AM Friday, December 3, 1993
Subject: lyrics file subscribers...

i was just wondering if everybody who wants to have the lyrics file
does.  i just sent it out to some of the more recent people to be
added to the list, but i don't know if i've gotten it to everybody.
if you haven't gotten it yet, send me a note and jog my memory.
and while we're on the subject, i hooked up with john alagia
and chris (i believe it's chris sabec, but i'm not sure) to get
official copies of as many dmb songs as possible, so i should have
a fully updated version soon.
rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...

Posted By: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:11 PM Friday, December 3, 1993
Subject: TRAX days Almost over!

Word is, from two directions, that DMB may have outgrown TRAX
andt the Floodzone.  At arecent floodzone show, youcouldnteven
geton thestreet,much less intothevenue. At
arecentTRAXshow,twofolkspassedout fromtheheat. Two persons
the band's management have said somethingtothe effectof"you
should go  whileyou can."

Posted By: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:14 PM Friday, December 3, 1993
Subject: BayouTree

This isfrustrating. Oneenvelopewasreturned. Two folks
stillhaven't senttheir blanks,and nevergavemeanaddress to  mail
blanks (otherwise Imwillingtowiatforblanksandpostageto be
Twomorefolksstilhaveogiveme athirdorfourthpickforthetrade.
8 ofthe 13 branchleadersshould have tapesbySaturdayifnothave
themalready.  If You're On the Tree,PLEASE
let'sgetthismooving! [D [D [D [D [D [D [D [D

Time/Date: 1:16 PM Friday, December 3, 1993
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 41

this is not really meant to be a flame of rick for his trey vs. dave post,
because he was the first to admit his drunken state, and i know how stupid that
can make you.  but anyway, on with it. . .how can you say that you will
disregard the opinions of anyone who dislikes the dmb as being to "biased,"
opting for the "objective" views?  are you, at the same time, going to dismiss
the opinions of those of us who happen to love the band as being too biased?
this is definitely not right. . .if you are not willing to hear opinions of
people whom you disagree with, whats the point in asking the question?  flame
me personally, please, dave

Time/Date: 4:46 AM Saturday, December 4, 1993
Subject: Lyrics to "Typical Situation" and "Blue Water"

I believe the lyrics to these songs aren't on the files so I decided
to contribute what I knew of them.
Both of these songs are on the bootleg from the bayou on June 26,1993.
Typical Situation
It all comes down to nothing
It all comes down to nothing
It all comes down to nothing
It all comes down to nothing
Ten fingers counting, we have each
Nine planets around the sun repeat
Eight ball, the last of you triumphant be
Seven oceans pummel the shores of the sea
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices
Everybody's happy
Everybody's free
We'll keep the back door open
and every one will come around
Why are you defunct?
Why are you that way?
If you don't get in line we'll lock you away.
Six senses feeling
Five around a self
Four seasons turn on and turn off
I can see three corners from this corner
Two's the perfect number, but one oh...
Everybody's happy...(*2)
It all comes down to nothing
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices
We can't do a thing about it
too many choices
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices
Everybody's happy...(*2)
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices
We can't do a thing about it
too many choices
It's a typical situation in these typical times
too many choices.
Blue Water
Walking by the river
reach my hands to cup the sky
while on my arms a bitter blue
turn to red and the (  ) grew
The river taste me
I'm so much more than I have ever been
oh, oh, oh, oh
Take this my arms
Take this my eyes
Take this my mouth
And all it says to me
Complete the truth
oh, oh, oh, oh...yeah
(Leroi's sax)
Walking by a river
reach my hands to cup the sky
while on my arms a bitter blue
turn to red and the (  ) grew
The river taste me
I'm so much more than I have ever been
oh, oh, oh
(Boyd's psychadelic fiddle exit)
If I messed up on a lyric here or there, please don't take offense.
Hope this helps cuz I know Dave's words are just as intense as his
Jamie Cogbill

Time/Date: 5:26 PM Saturday, December 4, 1993
Subject: uhhhh....sorry...

i know this really isn't necessary and a complete and total waste
of bandwidth, but i was a lot more intoxicated thur night than i
realized i was at the time i posted.
i want to thank the people who responded, including dave who publicly
flamed me.  i deserved it.
but then again, what's my opinion?  well, after really thinking about
it with a clear mind, i say it's an impossible comparison.  trey is
definitely more accomplished musician, and by far a more technically
proficient guitarist, but they both have so much to be taken into
consideration for themselves, that i really have no clue what i was
thinking(or if i was actually thinking) thursday night.
i've never made myself look stupid to 30000(?) people before.  makes
me feel like i've accomplished something....:)
ps, thanx for the lyrics to typical and blue water.  i know that there
some stuff that needs to be fixed in blue water, so i'll get that out
as soon as i can...
rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807
it's gonna be an eternity in here...
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