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February 27–March 5, 1994

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Posted By: COGBILLJ@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Time/Date: 3:22 AM Sunday, February 27, 1994
Subject: B-b-b-bayou!!!

Well it was another exhilirating experience tonight.  It was great to 
meet Jason, Clare, Blake, Rob and Kwon once again.  Sorry Clare, no 
Lover, but you gotta give em credit for dat Jimi Tang.  The first set 
was pretty much a Remember two Things set, but the second set more 
than made up for it.

The first set was actually really short and Dave seemed to be a little 
tired or something, but something happened backstage in that 45 minute 
set break that brought the band back in more than full force.  Oh yeah 
hello to my other netter friends that I attended the show with Rich, 
Brian and Kenny...the JMU cheering section.

Yeehoo!
Out of breath in Gtown,
Jamie Cogbill


Posted By: nmayer@uva386.schools.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 9:03 AM Sunday, February 27, 1994
Subject: 94 DMB

Does anyone out there have any really excellent January 94 Dave
that they would like to trade. It would be mighty appreciated
and I've got plenty to trade.  Please E-mail me.


			Stephen Mayer
			nmayer@uva386.schools.virginia.edu


Posted By: tilden@mickey.eng.gulfaero.com
Time/Date: 8:39 PM Sunday, February 27, 1994
Subject: Where in Gainsville??

If anyone knows which venue DMB is playing Monday (28th), please pass it
on to me.  Where?  When?  Phone #?

thanks,

Tilden White
tilden@mickey.eng.gulfaero.com


Posted By: mercp@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 9:12 PM Sunday, February 27, 1994
Subject: Yahoooo!!

Considering the present debate concerning WSP's taping policy, I have
a little story of someone who has their head screwed on properly.  One of
my friends who went to the Raleigh WSP and DMB had spoken with DMB's
soundboard man (JEFF?????) at the DMB show at Cat's Cradle last week and
had asked if he could tape Dave at the Ritz, and of course was given a
welcoming yes.  However, when my friend tried to bring his deck into the
Ritz, he was seriously hasseled by the huge, muscle-rippling bouncers who
told him that they did not think they could allow anyting like that into
the show.  However with a little eloquence, these mental-midgets were
circumvented.  He then faced more problems with WSP's soundboard man who
would not allow any patching, even during Dave.  So, the badass DMB
soundboard man taped the show for my friend on their soundboard deck.
Yes,yes,yes, I wish there were more people like that in this world.
			Merc


Posted By: cecliff@vt.edu
Time/Date: 10:52 PM Sunday, February 27, 1994
Subject: bayou 2/26/93 and other stuff...

hey everybody... i just got home from a breathtaking weekend.
 yes, jamie, you're right.  that was an INTENSE jimithing.  lie in our 
graves, too.  they were both amazing.
 there was a gross amount of netters at this show!!! it was so awesome to 
finally meet everyone, and to meet so many at one time.  the only person i 
didn't meet was kwon, who came over and chatted with my companion after the 
show.  i figured out who he was after we left.  but all in all there were 
11 netters there. it was so cool!!!!!!  hope i didn't come across as a 
crazed bitch, but i was utterly excited.  i liked the bayou's layout, too.  
great sound, and for being somewhat small, it was very comfy.  i'll refrain 
from complaining about parking...
  apparently there was a problem with the setup/soundboard area concerning 
tapers.  so nobody got plugged in until the second set. the wierdest thing 
arose concerning taping, too.  you had to have bayou permission.  in 
writing. i'm serious.  tapers got stickers from jeff that said something 
like, 'bayou guest... dave matthews band... audio recording...'  tapers had 
to wear these while taping or get kicked out.  i laughed my ass off.  we 
were all joking around at the soundboard about these damn stickers!!! 
 jamie origionally mentioned the style article...  i got a copy  as i 
breezed through my hometown of richmond.  coran was the one 
interviewed about minarets.net, and it included a number of interesting 
facts concerning sales, the death of dave's sister, etc. if people are 
interested... i'll type it out sometime and post it.  just let me know, so 
i don't do all that work for nothing:) 
 great again to meet all the netters, too many to post names, but most
especially passal. 
taggin along with the breeze,
clare emily


Posted By: @mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu
Time/Date: 12:57 AM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: BAYOU-2/26

Here is the set list for The Bayou show on 2/26
I
One Sweet World
Billies
Song that Jane Likes
Satellite
Help Myself
So Much to Say
What Would U say
True Refl.

II
Minarets 
Typical Sit.
Lie in Our Graves
#36
Jimi THing
Warehouse
Watchtower

E:Ants

Generally it seemed to me that this was a rather uninspired performance by
the band. I love every show I go to, but this was the worst which I have
attended.
It seemed like everything was going wrong, Stefan's bass, and the one thing
that angered me above all was the monitor control woman, who they must have
dragged off the street, because she kept fucking w/ the monitor sound,
turning it up and down during songs, how annoying. I was sitting behind her
and and saw her fucking w/ the dials. Finally I asked her if she knew what
she was doing which she did not take kindly to. Did anyone else notice
this? What is everybody else's reaction to the show. And not Jamie, because
I already heard your reaction in the bathroom of New South 1, anyway it was
cool meeting you.
P.S.-Hi Bruce.


Posted By: COGBILLJ@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Time/Date: 2:09 AM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: Time to toot my horn

Well, everybody, today was just awesome...

Currently I am what you might call an "intern" of John Alagia...or you 
could say that I'm the person that gets to do the mindless stuff for 
him that he doesn't have time for.  What I do, or what I did today was 
go over to his house and work on transferring some music by up and 
coming bands around DC to tape for a project or organization known as 
WAMA (Washington Area Musicians Assoc. or something like that).  I 
also did organizing and like I said...mindless work.  But oh am I so 
happy to be doing it.

It all came about when I was at the Grog and Tankard last week w/ 
Christopher Sabec last week to see Derryberry & Alagia and John asked 
me for my help due to his overwhelming workload.  Well, even if he 
wasn't completely serious about following it up, I was...and I sort of 
bugged him about it, until now, and it has finally become a reality.  
John is a really great guy and he was very receptive and actually 
enthusiatic about talking to me about the band while I was over there 
today.

Also after I took the cab over there today...a certain someone was 
still there recovering from a good sleep after an intense show...yes, 
it was DAve.  He left soon after, but it was so neato to be over 
there.  I also got to go out to a coffee house with Christopher Sabec 
and chat over a cafe au lait and cookies (sorry, Christopher I forgot 
the name of that type of coffee cookie).  All in all it was a great 
day for the number one DMB fan. <---(hope this arouses fierce debate.)

Sleep well all.

Jamie Cogbill


Posted By: Ian_M._Bassin@gorgias.ilt.tc.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 9:18 AM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: Dave in NY

Some one said Dave's New York schedule coincides with the Dead. Could that
person 
(or anyone else) please clarify when and where Dave is in NY. 
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Posted By: BH7N@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA
Time/Date: 11:37 AM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: When they open 4 Phish

My sister and I were debating about this on Saturday-
 
When DMB opens for phish do you think they'll play a
more straightforward album song orientedset (like
Set I at the Bayou on Sat.) or will they jamout
(like set II)?
 
I certainly prefer the latter option and also think that If
they want to impress uninitiated Phish fans, they really gotta
jam (although I guess lots of the people there will already be DMB
fans, just cause of the location).
 
Have they played with WSP yet? What was that like?
 
Just wondering,
Marco EsKWONdolas.


Posted By: @ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU:lmorgan@uclink.Berkeley.EDU
Time/Date: 1:18 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: hello

hi-
        Couple of thoughts: For me - Internet is becoming my info source
for new music. (New to me, obviously) Who needs RS or MTV? I lurk on a
couple of nets and see what's up from real fans, not journalists. Fans
recommend other bands or other nets; I check it out. This is fun. I enjoy
reading your comments, thanks for keeping me informed. BTW, how easy is it 
for someone in California to get ahold of some DMB? I'd love to get a tape.
Should I check out the cd? When can I expect a show in CA? 
        Thanks, JOE 

                       Laura Morgan and Joe Battaglia


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:26 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: a goose and a gander.......

Hey to all you out there. just a couple things about the bayou show the other
night 2/26.

In defense of boyd......
I found that from where i was standing (above Boyd top left hanging off) Boyd's
violin sounded incredible. Maybe it was that I was getting most of the sound
out of the monitor rather than PA or the actual violin but it sounded
incredible. He is also in my opinion better than most of you give him credit
for. Watching his fingers move on the next i would be suprised if you guys out
there who play guitar could play his satellite intro (i think it was satellite)
on guitar. I play my self and would be impressed with myself if I could....
also what more do you want Boyd to explore with everyone else in the band is
playing a blues/rock/whatever instrument except Boyd he is taking a strictly
classical instrument and making it fit in a blues/jazz/rock/whatever band on
that fact alone Boyd stands out whether or not you think he is good is one
thing but give credit where credit is due.....

And on the Goose......
Where Brian and I were standing on Sat. night was right at the door where the
band went on stage and.....when they first came out I carefully stepped out of
the way to allow all members passage or what i thought was all the members.
Leroi was still lagging behind....so to get me out of the way of the door which
i was then blocking he grabbed my ass! 
just a funny story i though i would relate.

Rich
"do not seek to have things happen as you want but rather seek to have them
happen as they do ...for then your life will go well"


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:33 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Dave in NY

On Mon, 28 Feb 1994 Ian_M._Bassin@gorgias.ilt.tc.columbia.edu wrote:
> Some one said Dave's New York schedule coincides with the Dead. Could that
> person 
> (or anyone else) please clarify when and where Dave is in NY. 
> ----------------------------------------------

that's right and it's no coincidence.  Coran is very thoughtful and 
intelligent as a concert promoter.  On Fri. the 18th of March and Sat. the 
19th DMB will be playing at Schuba's in Chicago IL.  Both nights?? there 
are Dead shows before (at least one of the nights) the shows and should 
hjave time to get from them (the Dead show) to Schuba's.  you may have to 
start making your way out of the show during the encore and fly out of 
there so as not to get caught in the traffic that 50,000? people bring.

the Irving Plaza show in NYC is similiar.  I believe the Dead play Nassua 
on the 23rd,24th and 25th DMB plays on the 26th and then the Dead play 
three more nights at Nassua.  

again i'm not exactly sure on the Dead dates but it works something like 
that.  someone elaborated on the Schuba show but i couldn't dig up the 
message.

can anyone else detail this more?

alex Crothers


Posted By: MEAGHERJA@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:06 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: Bayou and other stuff

	Some other thoughts on the Bayou:
		Something was definitely amiss in the first set.  Did
	anyone else notice that Carter didn't sing at all during the set.
	It was back to normal in the second, but there seemed to be just a 
	general slow feeling to the first set, that luckily changed after
	that really long set break.  I also have to agree about the monitor
	sound person.  I was near the front by the board and there seemed 
	to be confusion throughout the whole show.  Otherwise, was a great
	show and it was really good to see the band outside of Richmond.
		I was also wondering about the song "Best of What's Around."
	Everyone seems to know the song, but the last time I saw it 
	performed was in early Sept. at the Floodzone.  Has the band just
	dumped the song?  I hope not.  Although it's not one of the most 
	jammin' songs out there, it would be nice to hear once in a while.
		I hate to do this, but would anyone happen to have a tape 
	of the band from Floodzone, Sept. 1 at the Floodzone, or any tape
	with the "Doobie Thing" intro to Ants Marching.  I have tapes to 
	trade and would be very appreciative.
		Sorry if this message is too long or hard to follow or 
	completely irrelavent, but my mind is a little slow from the 
	weekend.
		By the way, there were two other netters at the Bayou.  
	I wish I could have met you the other netters.

				
					jim


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 2:06 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: Re: When they open 4 Phish

On Mon, 28 Feb 1994, Kwon wrote:
> When DMB opens for phish do you think they'll play a
> more straightforward album song orientedset (like
> Set I at the Bayou on Sat.) or will they jamout
> (like set II)?

believe it or not as i finished talking to me friend about this i turned 
on my computer and here is this message.  interesting.  at first, i thought 
that it may only be a Remember 2 things set but then thought about where 
it was.  since W&L is a DMB haven, hopefully Dave and the others will 
realize this and just jamout.  maybe a Trey thrown in there.  maybe a 
paige? who can say for sure but here's hoping they realize everyone at 
that show (the majority) has heard the album/the songs on the album enough
already.  

any other thoughts?

can almost bet on a Boyd/phish thing.

alex Crothers


Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 3:21 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: Re: When they open 4 Phish

On Mon, 28 Feb 1994, J. A. Crothers wrote:

> can almost bet on a Boyd/phish thing.

Well, how about a Leroi/Phish thing?  That would be so sweet.

> 
> alex Crothers
> 

Ben

----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----


Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 1:23 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Bayou and other stuff

On Mon, 28 Feb 1994 MEAGHERJA@urvax.urich.edu wrote:

> 	Some other thoughts on the Bayou:
> 		I was also wondering about the song "Best of What's Around."
> 	Everyone seems to know the song, but the last time I saw it 
> 	performed was in early Sept. at the Floodzone.  Has the band just
> 	dumped the song?  I hope not.  Although it's not one of the most 
> 	jammin' songs out there, it would be nice to hear once in a while.
> 

This is my personal favorite.  I was up front in Athens a few weeks ago 
screaming for it between EVERY SONG BREAK, BOTH NIGHTS, but to no avail.  
Before the saturday show I even made a little sign which I put in front 
of Dave's mic stand, he looked at it, looked at me, and shrugged.

Well, that sign will be showing up in front of him when they're back here 
w/ the Samples in April.

> 				
> 					jim
> 

--Ben

----Let's get down to the nitty-gritty, Let's get the show on the road.----


Posted By: Daniel_Gold@brown.edu
Time/Date: 4:54 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: April.the.11th.........&..rhode.island

April
10 William & Mary VA
12 TBA -- however will be a NE show
13 TBA --    "     "    "  " "  "
15 Boston w/ the Samples -- will have venue info later

AHA!..so.where.will.they.be.on.*April.11th?*
i.guess.that.will.be.a.day.of.rest.before.heading.north,.but.i.sure.do.wish.
DMB.would.play.with.the.Samples.here.in.Providence,RI.at.the.strand.on.April
.11th.
i.won't.pay.the.$11.to.see.the.Samples,.but.i.certainly.would.for.DMB!

what.is.DMB's.connection.to.Rhode.Island?...(i.think.some.of.the.tunes.on.th
e.disc.were.recorded.somewhere.in.RI......why.aren't.they.still.playing.in.t
his.state?)

love,daniel


Posted By: PONDWAYLA@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:23 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: PHISH AND DMB TICKET INFORMATION

Here is the Phish and DMB ticket info for the April 20 show in
Lexington, Virginia at the Virginia Horse Center:

Tickets Available at:

Richmond:  Plan 9, Peaches, Digits
Lexington: Night Owl Music
Charlottesville: Mincers,Disctraxshuns,Plan 9
Stuanton: Crossroads
Harrisonburg: Town and Campus
Blacksburg: Record Exchange

By Phone:

1-800-594-8499
This is Charlottesville Number

Ticketmaster
(804) 262-8100


TICKETS GO ON SALE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 2 AND ARE $16.00


Also: Tickets for the Widespread Panic and DMB show at Brown's Island
Richmond, Va. on April 3 go are on sale now at same outlets and phone
numbers.  Tickets are $12.50.

If you have anymore questions please email me.

Could someone please forward this to Phish net and HORDE Net?

Thank you and I hope to meet you at the upcoming shows!

Wayland


Posted By: STU_GJCARRIE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 6:34 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: No DMB on 4/21 in Winston-Salem

Is it true that DMB cancelled their 4/21 date with Phish?  Bummer if so...I
kind of wanted to see them together twice...any guaranteed word?

************ What would you do if I ate your Daddy's shoes? ******************
*    Gregg Carrier  (aka Uncle Zany, the guy in the floppy green hat)        *
*    JMU Box 1734            stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu                   *
*    Harrisonburg, VA  22807          (703) JMU-KIND                         *
*********** What would you say if it was naturally for you? ******************


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:51 PM Monday, February 28, 1994
Subject: dave matthews/phish on april 21...

there's a rumor floating around (and if gregg has already asked here,
then i'm sorry...;) that dave matthews has cancelled his april 21
appearance with phish in winston-salem.  anyone know about the validity
here?

also, when this net was formed, we were told that it was being monitered
by red light management via an american online account straight out of
the office at trax.  are you guys still there?
======================================================================
rick thompson                      <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you 
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
                                   matthews band (including a few 
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense."
             --Immanuel Kant
======================================================================


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 2:18 AM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: Re: April.the.11th.........&..rhode.island

> what.is.DMB's.connection.to.Rhode.Island?...(i.think.some.of.the.tunes.on.th
> e.disc.were.recorded.somewhere.in.RI......why.aren't.they.still.playing.in.t
> his.state?)
> love,daniel


that would make DMB laugh if you said that to them.  (i think) there is a 
misprint in the album.  a few shows after the album was released they 
mentioned it at a show in Trinity CT.  the album says part of the album 
was recorded live at The Muse in Nantucket, RI.  Dave recognized the fact 
that Nantucket isn't in RI and made a oke about it.  funny you mentioned 
RI though.

alex Crothers


Posted By: BH7N@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA
Time/Date: 8:07 AM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: Blake C?

Blake-
 
I tried writing to you at blakec@infi.net but my mail bounced.
Please get in touch with me.
 
Sorry about the personal,
Kwon


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 10:50 AM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: Re: dave matthews/phish on april 21...

> also, when this net was formed, we were told that it was being monitered
> by red light management via an american online account straight out of
> the office at trax.  are you guys still there?
> rick thompson                      <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>

they are still there but.... very vaguely.  Management has an account 
that is subscribed to minarets, as do the designers of the album, as does 
DMB's lawyer.  so in reality there are three accounts somehow related to 
the band directly that check out the net.  but....this doesn't mean that 
they actually read minarets.  in fact, recently i had to make a decision 
about DMB "monitering" minarets.  at first, i got that Big Brother 
feeling and was very skeptical.  Minarets, in my mind at least, should be 
a place where talk is free to move in whatever direction it moves (to 
a degree...PhishNet may have taken this a little too far?) without 
outside interference.  i was afraid if someone was "monitering" minarets 
and things came up that were somehow contrary to the band they would 
intercede and "straighten things out."  after discussing this (in a 
roundabout way) i've assumed that whatever 'official' eyes that are out 
there watching are doing so because of their pleasaure for the 
band and not to moniter minarets in anyway. in any case, many of 
the accounts remain unchecked for days and weeks. 

they usually contact me when something comes up that i(minarets) should know 
about and i get in touch with them when a question pops up on minarets that 
needs an immediate answer.


alex Crothers


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 11:02 AM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: paige, best, and boyd...

my first thought is a quick thought:  jimi thing, paige.











little room to think about that one.  aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh.
also, the last time i saw dave play best of what's around was when
i interviewed him here at jmu (meaning i was in the same room and 
he was playing my guitar...................narf).  my impression is
that he's tiring just a little of the song.  i'd wait until this summer
to see it again, and to the person who's really pestering him for it,
we all know that that only buggs him, and your a lot less likely
to hear it.  the only time he's ever played a request for me was when
he played so much to say on 7-14-93 after a good 5 month hiatus.

and last but not least, my $.02 on boyd, for the fourth time:
nobody, and i mean nobody, on this net is going to say that dave matthews
band should kick boyd out.  nobody hear really disrespects boyd, a lot of
us just think that he tends to give into a really commercial oriented 
mood a lot of the time.  for those of you who like the lyrics to true 
reflections, more power to you.  but have you _ever_ heard them jam the
song out?  i haven't.  (tri-poetry jams don't count, imho)  but if you
go to a good seek-up or blue water it's just sickening the level to which
boyd takes it, and there are a lot of people who i can speak for when i say
we need to see more of that.

======================================================================
rick thompson                      <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you 
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
                                   matthews band (including a few 
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense."
             --Immanuel Kant
======================================================================


Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 11:44 AM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: Re: best

On Tue, 1 Mar 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:

> to see it again, and to the person who's really pestering him for it,
> we all know that that only buggs him, and your a lot less likely

Hey, I'm respectful.  I write a little sign, and put it on stage.  They 
haven't played to song in a while (this interview was back in the fall?).

And by the way, I know for a fact Dave DOES do this song by request.  At 
the Wetlands 8/19/93, some dude was screaming for it all night, and what 
was the last song of the show?  Yup, it was the BEST best.

It's not like I'm really pestering him-- I've seen them only four times 
since the summer! (subliminal NE tour grovel)


--Ben


Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:49 AM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: Re: btbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbtbt

How come Phish at Bender cost me $20 (plus 3.50 tickmast), but Phish with DMB
costs $16?  Maybe they're trying to make it up to me for paying the $9.50 at
Trax (it used to be $5).
Also, for whoever asked about the Best of What's Around, they played it at
Trax Nov.2 and 23rd.  It is always nice to hear Carter's intro drum roll. 
They played this all the time in '92, I don't know why they stopped; I'll
take it over One Sweet World (or True Reflections or Lover(sorry clare) 
anyday.)  
   Why is it that lately DMB starts out with the same few songs for about a
month straight? (Seek, Tripping, Jane, One Sweet)

Also, could Blake please write me, I don't have your address.  Maybe we can
set up a trade since I'll see you at ARU.


       I am who I am who I am who am I?              ---Kerry

                  ***Look who's in the freezer***


Posted By: SAPIRE@carleton.edu
Time/Date: 1:07 PM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: trades

have people been getting their trades,
i know i haven't, not to comlpain 
it's just that i'm outa here in 2 weeks!
and i'd like to take them with me

comlpain, vomplain
complain complane

i do have a True Reflections that jams:
election night '92
word
it's not a psychedelic seek up, blue water, "thang" type doobie
but i groove on it on occassion  (when not listening to the above)

does anyone know anything about the Hairy Mary show in Des Moins?
Iowa that is.  eh?

Ed

*******   look WHAT'S in the freezer!!!!!!    *******


Posted By: Daniel_Gold@brown.edu
Time/Date: 2:00 PM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: strictly.classical?

>In defense of boyd......
>I found that from where i was standing (above Boyd top left hanging off) Boyd's
>violin sounded incredible. 
>also what more do you want Boyd to explore with everyone else in the band is
>playing a blues/rock/whatever instrument except Boyd he is taking a strictly
>classical instrument and making it fit in a blues/jazz/rock/whatever

um,.i.think.that.if.we.renamed.boyd's."violin".a.FIDDLE,
then.we.could.see.that.the.style.is.not.as.derivative.of."Classical"
as.it.is.of."Bluegrass."....
(which.better.explains.how.well.it.fits.w/dave&crew)

however,.i.think.i.remember.reading.that.boyd.learned.the.instrument.
in.classical.style....is.that.right?..(probably.in.the.faq,.i.should.check..
.)

love,daniel


Posted By: COGBILLJ@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Time/Date: 2:45 PM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: Set lists? Lyric thoughts...

Is anyone going to compile the set lists from 12/5 as Alex did for 
11/16 to 12/5?  If anyone has kept track of all that and wouldn't mind 
typing it into the net I would most appreciate it.

Lyric thoughts...
DANGEROUS HOURS...for once I agree with Kerry and think it should be 
	"oh river red" not "oh river edge"
LIE IN OUR GRAVES...i've never heard "when I step into the room" 
	rather "when I step into the light"
TYPICAL SITUATION...yeah, i've changed my mind and think that I goofed 
	when typing "why are you defunct" to the net.  I believe it's 
	"why are you different"
WAREHOUSE...Begins with "Hey wreckless mind"  "They come and bond in   
	million" might be "becoming one in a million" and following    
	"on a plane" similar to what Kerry recommended seems to me 
	"plane to heaven"
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY..."drink a hope to happy years"

You may agree not to agree.

Jamie Cogbill


Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 5:50 PM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: lyrics to PEOPLE

Hey folks, this is my lyrics contribution.  It's taken from a set that on 
my tape is listed only as THANKSGIVING '92.  It's at FZ, and Dave says 
Happy Thanksgiving.  The day before the holiday, 1992?

It goes:
A: Spotlight
The Maker
Angel From Montgomery
Desperate Hours
Dancing Nancies
People
Tripping Billies
One Sweet World
--
B: Jimi Thing
Halloween Song
Pay For What You Get
So Much To Say
True Reflections
Lover Lay Down


ANYWAY, here are the lyrics to this version of People.  Just a note on 
the title, Dave announces that it's called "People" (as opposed to "People, 
People").  Here we go:

------------------------------------------------
Seven tumbling oceans surround the ground that I dance upon
Black and white and the rainbow, five colors in my eyes.
Seven tumbling oceans surround the ground that I dance upon
Black and white and the rainbow, five colors in my eyes.

People, People
What are we doing here
Oh, People
What have we done with things
People, People
What are we doing here
Oh, People
What have we done with things

When we fight over the oceans?
When we fight over the skies, and why?
When we fight over our borders?
Then we, our brothers and sisters deny.

Tell me why is it so cold in here.

Seven tumbling oceans surround the ground that I dance upon
Black and white and the rainbow, five colors in my eyes.
When we stand in the mother's arms, no feeling of emptiness.
When we stand in the mother's hands, we can see that
When we fight over the oceans
When we fight over the skies, and why
When we fight over our borders
Then we, our brothers and sisters deny.

Tell me why do we do it.
Why do we do it?  Oh, . . . 
-------------------------------------------------

Pretty heavy stuff, huh?


Peace, everyone.

--Ben

--------------------Let's get down to the nitty-gritty----------------------
----------------------Let's get the show on the road.-----------------------


Posted By: klong@sura.net
Time/Date: 7:02 PM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: Derryberry and Alagia

Derryberry & Alagia are playing at the Bayou, Thursday March 17th.
The show is called "Roots, Rock and Rhythm".  Kevin Johnson is
listed as either part of the show or possibly as an opening act.
If this is the Kevin Johnson I know of, he is a fine musician
and used to accompany dance classes at The Dance Place in D.C.


klong


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:28 PM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: how to undigestify minarets.net

recently a coupla people have asked me how to undigestify minarets
net, and this is what i found out, just in case anyone else is
wondering:
the listproc doesn't support a command to simply undigestify the
net, so the only way to do it is to unsubscribe, and then resubscribe.
the cool thing is you can do both in the same message.  just send in
a message with the two lines as follow:

unsubscribe minarets
subscribe minarets <your first name><your last name>

and about 2 minutes later you will be privy to an undigestified 
minarets net.  
remember, the address is <listproc@moose.uvm.edu>, and make sure
that when you tell freinds how to subscribe that you give them this
address so that we can keep subscription messages to a minimum here
on minarets.net.
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harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
                                   matthews band (including a few 
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Posted By: cecliff@vt.edu
Time/Date: 10:23 PM Tuesday, March 1, 1994
Subject: style magazine article

STYLE WEEKLY  28 Feb, 1994

RICHMOND RAVES   by Andy Garrigue  
 With a record-breaking first disc out, Dave Matthews Band makes a 
triumphant return.

 Fans knew that it was only a matter of time.  That one day they would ve 
able to get their hands on a Dave Matthews Band compact disc instead of the 
bootleg concert tapes they had been surviving on forever.  They also knew 
that one day the band would sign a major-label recording contract.  THe 
momentum had been building for months.  With weekly shows at the Flood Zone 
and Charlottesville's Trax consistently attracting more than 500 people, 
how could it not happen?
 At the strike of midnight this past Nov 9, the band's first compact disc, 
"Remember Two Things" went on sale.  Before the day was done, one record 
store in C'ville rang up more than 1,100 copies, DMB had sold out another 
Trax show and the ink was drying on a multiple-album recording contract 
with RCA records.  According to Big Shots Records out of Athens Ga, who 
shipped 12,500 DMB discs in the first two weeks, "first-day sales of this 
album were bigger than any artist outside REM and Widespread Panic."
 Peter Robinson manager of the A&R label for RCA, commenting in a phone 
interview, said, "I haven't seen anything like that before for an 
independent release.  It comfirms our belief that they're going to be big, 
that they're doing to grow and grow and grow, be a career artist.  And 
we're going to be in it with them for the long haul."
 Word about the band, which features violin, saxophone and Matthews' 
distinctive vocals in a free-ranging melodic mix of jazz, world-beat, folk 
and pop, has spread by several methods: Bootleg tapes have made the rounds 
of friends and college radio stations.  There's a Dave Matthews E-net on 
Internet so fans can communicate with each other.  Called "minaret," after 
one of Matthews' songs, it began at the University of Vermont and is solely 
fan operated.  According to manager Coran Capshaw, "It's traveled across at 
least 28 states and to Austrailia and Canada."  Capshaw estimates the  
recording is now sold in 25 states, with total sales over the last three 
months approaching 25,000.  
 With the release of "Remember Two Things,"  the band scaled back on area 
performances.  On Feb 24, the band makes their first performance in 
Richmond since playing at the Marriot on New Year's Eve.  After this show 
at the Flood Zone, the band's next Richmond date is April 3, when they'll 
perform on Brown's Island with Widespread Panic.  
 A January tour of Colorado was cut short when news came form Matthews' 
native South Africa that his sister had been murdered by her husband, who 
then took his own life, orphaning their two small children.  Matthews flew 
there to be with his family.  When Matthews returned, the tour resumed, and 
two shows at a 1,000 seat venue in Athens sold out in four hours.  
 How this family tragedy will affect Matthews' music remains to be seen, 
but there's no question about from where his emotional support has been 
coming.  Commenting on the band's future after bing signed by RCA, he said, 
"I think our success so far has been because we've stayed together.  And 
the remainder of what comes in the future relies very much on us remaining 
a tight unit.  However we mature together in the business, or manage to 
survive whatever comes to us, the main focus for me is for us to stay 
together.  Then everyting will take care of itself."

there you go everyone...  pretty interesting facts, huh?
any net comments??????

           'be still be calm be quiet now my precious boy
       don't struggle like that or i will only love you more'
                         cecliff@vt.edu


Posted By: JTNIETHA@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:35 AM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: Re: style magazine article

Two words:

	GOOD SHIT!!!
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why was bender $4 more at bender?  because bender is a beuracratic
hole in the ground (what else would you expect from dc) who likes to
steal your cigarettes, whereas lexington virginia is just a happy 
farm off of va state rt 39.  not to mention that the demand for
phish nye run was _way_ high.
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jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you 
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
                                   matthews band (including a few 
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
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Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 9:46 AM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: Updated FAQ and Lyrics file

Could someone send me the FAQ and Lyrics file.  My copies are pretty outdated -  
11/3/93??!  


thanks

on my way,
joe

ps Why doesn't Dave and the band come up to boring NWestern PA and Western NY??   
I envy y'all down in that killer geographical area  of VA!


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 10:37 AM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: Winston-Salem w/Phish

Just talked to management and i mentioned the rumor that the Winston 
Salem Phish/DMB show had been cancelled.

as far as they were concerned it was still on.

where did that info come from (Rick, Gregg??)

alex Crothers


Posted By: HAUSERBT@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Time/Date: 10:53 AM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: Gainesville show 3/1

Hey all,
	The band put on a heck of show last night.  I was surprised with the 
amount of people that came out (300-400) being it was the Tuesday night 
before Spring Break, AND more importantly, no CD store in town carries their
disc.  It's amazing what a listing in Rolling Stone can do...Anyway it was
the second time i saw them.  The first time being way back in '91 at Brown's
Island in Richmond.  I was really impressed--here's the sets with a few comments to follow...

Set I
Tripping Billies
Intro-One Sweet World
Lie in Our Graves
Satellite  (under 21 crowd goes nuts at beginning)
Warehouse
Recently
What Would You Say
True Reflections

Set II
Minarets
Typical Situation
Dancing Nancies
Jane
Ants
Watchtower

E: Xmas Song
Halloween

The crowd was interesting, not only larger than expected but younger.  But
a friend of mine in Richmond says the under 21 crowd digs Dave.  There were
a couple people from up north Spring Breaking and following Dave on the way downjudging by the conversation I overheard.  They were yellin for Halloween all
night.  Kinda annoying...Onto the show--it was rockin and jamming, notmuch
on the mellow side. Dave even said before Xmas Song something like."We do have
a softer side, you just haven't seen it too much tonight--I guess were just
pumped to be out of the f***ing cold weather."  I was a little disappointed
with Dave's vocals--he was hard to understand, but the recordings I have sound
kinda the same.  I got that consensus from the friends  with me.  Highlights,
besides Carter the whole night, man does he go off (and sing too), were
True Reflections (about 8-9 minutes) and a rocking Watchtower, which Boyd
and Dave started off with a little picking duel.  That's all I can think of
now..maybe more later.  No tapers...

Peace
Brian


Posted By: Daniel_Gold@brown.edu
Time/Date: 11:38 AM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: article;..&taping.problem

>FROM.the.magazine.article:"There's a Dave Matthews E-net on 
>Internet so fans can communicate with each other.  Called "minaret," after 
>one of Matthews' songs, it began at the University of Vermont and is solely 
>fan operated.  According to manager Coran Capshaw, "It's traveled across at 
>least 28 states and to Austrailia and Canada." 


I.found.this.paragraph.to.be.slightly.confusing.&.misleading.......
        .....but.it.brings.up.the.question:
                is.MINERATSnet.more.widespread.than.the.album?
I.know.we.have.less."subscribers,"so.to.speak,.than.the.album...
        but.how.many.states/countries.have.we.reached?


on.another.topic:
have.y'all.heard.about.the.taping-tragedy......the.new.rule.barring.taping.o
f.WSP.(and.ARU???).shows.......8-(....8-(....8-(
ANYWAY,.i.was.wondering.if.anyone.out.there.was/will.be.able.to.score.tapes.
of.the.WSP.show(s).which.DMB.open,.since.i.am.sure.some.of.you.will.be.grabb
ing.sbd's.of.the.DMB.sets....hopefully.you.can.just.leave.your.decks.patched
.in.(secretly?).and.grab.some.kind.tapes.ofWSP.as.well?.....



love,daniel

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
SPACE.would.be.nice
      SPACE.would.be.nice
        	     SPACE.would.be.nice
        	       	     yeah,SPACE.would.be.nice

SORRY...i.know.this.bothers.many.of.you.
unfortunately.my.keyboard.cannot.
be.repaired.until.(insert.random.soon.time.)
REALLY..it.will.be.fixed.SOON.
++++++++++++++++++++++++greenfling++++-->
is.it.strange.i.should.change?i.don't.know...

An.honest.tune.with.a.lingering.lead.can.now.only.be.experienced.on.studio-r
ecorded.tapes!?!?!?.....8-(...
bad.move."CA-PRICK-HORN.WRECK-HORDES."(-g)


Posted By: nmayer@uva386.schools.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:56 PM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: More tapes

I'm sorry to annoy you with my selfish notes with no relevance
really but does anyone have Dec 22 1992 at trax.  It was a
great show with the best Two step I've ever heard.  And....
 Does anyone have any really really nice Doobie Things.

				Thanks,

				  Steve


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 2:59 PM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: phish/dmb & dave's sister

well first of all, i must have missed somewhere that bit about his sister 
being murdered by her husband... that's awful.  i thought it had been a car 
accident.  wow.  that makes things even more crushing for dave...  i actually 
wrote a song to dave after that happened (in his "style", too -- or as best i 
could manage his vocal style anyway).  maybe i'll send it to him now.  do 
they accept mail at trax?

to be honest, as much as i hope y'all get to hear a really jammin' set with 
phish, i'd bet a dollar to a donut that you'll get remember 2 things.  the 
band is business-minded in a very subtle way (some of you have probably 
noticed this) and it makes sound financial sense to push their album.  so i'm 
sure they will.  they have success in mind (who wouldn't, really) and dave 
has already said -- jokingly, in part, i'm sure -- that he wants to make 
loads and loads of money.  he was kidding, but not too much.  anyway, at the 
moment it looks like i won't be able to catch this fantastic show with dmb/
phish/gsw in my home town but i hope everyone has a great time.  just the 
concept of *any* of the members of the band joining the other band is 
frightening.  absolutely crazy.

also, after reading the latest phish newsletter of a couple days ago, i would 
assume that no taping would be allowed because lexington isn't on the list of 
tapers shows?  or will there just not be a taping section?  god, i'd hate to 
actually miss the show and then not be able to get a tape of it, too....

grumble, grumble.  

take care,

reid
-SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU


Posted By: STU_BEHORTON@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:46 PM Wednesday, March 2, 1994
Subject: Boyd Lookalike

     A few weeks ago I was in Baltimore visiting a friend and we were
just sitting around watching the news when all of a sudden I saw Boyd on
tv or what I thought was Boyd.  You wouldn't believe the resemblance.
He was wearing glasses very similar to Boyd's and he was wearing a 
cowboy hat as well.  The fellow's name was Stan Sanders (Saunders) and
he's a field reporter for the Baltimore ABC affiliate.  You netters in
the area should check it out, you won't believe it.
     Next topic, there hasn't been much discussion on this but I know
I for one still cannot get over that Dave is opening for Phish.  Doesn't
this blow anyone else's gourd?  How many people open for Phish regardless
of whether or not its a local thing?  Not many.  
   Last but not least I'd like to comment on ticket prices.  Ticket prices
are really skyrocketing.  I heard it was nine bucks at Trax last week, eight
if you're legal.  This seems to be getting way out of hand especially
when you consider that for an additional $7 one can see Phish as well
granted Dave will not be playing 2+ hrs.  Hopefully this will be the end of 
the hikes at least for now.  If not we could have another Big Head Todd on
our hands.  At least BHT has an album out on a major label though not that
this is an indicator of talent or anything though.
     Brett@anticipating the day I'm legal so I can save those 100 pennies


Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 12:00 AM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Re: style magazine article

On Tue, 1 Mar 1994, clare emily clifford wrote:

> STYLE WEEKLY  28 Feb, 1994
> 
> fan operated.  According to manager Coran Capshaw, "It's traveled across at 
> least 28 states and to Australia and Canada."  Capshaw estimates the  
                         ^^^^^^^^^
Okay folks, if anyone out there Down Under is actually reading this
message, please, please, PLEASE contact me!  btanen@husc.harvard.edu

--Ben

--------------------Let's get down to the nitty-gritty----------------------
----------------------Let's get the show on the road.-----------------------


Posted By: budkee@unvax.union.edu
Time/Date: 3:15 AM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Those damn ticket prices

I don't mean to shock anyone here.  But both the band and the venue
are in control over ticket prices.  As are the laws of supply and
demand.

The prices for a Phish show in the NE are goona be higher for a number
of reasons.  
1) Phish can get the money in the NE
2) The bigger the venue, the more in production and other overhead it
costs to get the show off, so aside from the band gettign paid a lot,
the venue has to shell out a lot to pay people to work.

Now if these places thought no one would go, they wouldn't book the
bands because they would be losing a ton of money on the show.  If
none of these places were willing to pay the band for shows, the band
would likely pay for less.  This happens in areas where they are less
popular.  ie if Phish went to Mexico right now there is a good chance
that they could not fill a place the size of the Centrum.  If DMB were
to go out and play in N Dakota (not meant as a flame) ticket prices
would probably be very low and the band wouldn't make much money off
it, probably not much more than enough to survive.

The venues have to figure out some line where a rise in tickt price
will not take away too much of the audience.  Quite obviously down at
Trax they are not having to drag people in off the street.  They can't
stay in business taking losses.  DMB costs more with their rise in
popularity and the bars have to offset that rise in cost.

Be happy that you can see them every week still (or however often it
is that they play down there.)  My guess is that it won't be long
before you will be complaining that you can only see them once in a
month or less.  And ticket prices will likely be higher then too.

Stay out of the snow (and no smart remarks from those of you in warmer
climates)  
-- 
Eric Budke    			          Union College Box 241
Fax (Subj. Concert Committee)		  Schenectady NY 12308
(518)388-6446 	 			  518-388-5615
God Street Wine and Allman Brothers Mailing list administrator
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Posted By: Daniel_Gold@brown.edu
Time/Date: 12:37 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Irving.Plaza

i.have.heard.that.Irving.Plaza.(NYC).is.a.really.crappy.place.to.play..(ugly
,.bad.acoustics,.dirty.,.uncomfortable...)........is.that.true,...y'all.who'
ve.seen.dmb.there?

i.was.told.that.bands.play.there.because.it.is.bigger.than.wetlands.and.chea
per.than.roseland.......

with.some.luck,.i.will.be.at.the.DMB.show.there.on.3/26,.so.i.was.just.wonde
ring.what.it's.like.....

love,daniel


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:26 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Lexington show

i've mentioned this before but i think i'll say something again cause 
it's been on my mind.

at first i thought that DMB would play a Remember Two things type set 
when they opened for phish.  and this might be the case, who can say for 
sure?  BUT...when i thought about it some more i realized that the show 
could easily go the other way too.  think about were DMB is opening for 
Phish.  Lexington Virginia.  W&L is one of the couple schools that started 
DMB on its way.  hopefully DMB will realize that almost everyone at the 
Lexington show knows DMB already and has heard the album enough.  
hopefully. but like i said, who can say for sure? 

alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:30 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Lexington VA

> also, after reading the latest phish newsletter of a couple days ago, i would 
> assume that no taping would be allowed because lexington isn't on the list of 
> tapers shows?  or will there just not be a taping section?  god, i'd hate to 
> actually miss the show and then not be able to get a tape of it, too....

sorry forgot to add this little tidbit in the last post.

i'm assuming taping will be conducted like all the other shows.  since 
the Lexington and Winston-Salem shows are both general admission there 
will be a taping section and anyone can bring in gear.

anyone hear differently?

also i wouldn't count on getting a board feed for DMB.  that would make 
things really difficult for both bands and phish will probably ask DMB to 
not allow them for these two shows.  i'll try to find out for sure but 
management probably won't even know until the time of the show.

alex Crothers


Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 5:19 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: True Reflections; kg

I think Rick hates True Ref for the wrong reason.  He says it's not good
because they don't jam on it (also that it's cheesy.)  If all songs they
didn't jam on sucked, wouldn't we have to hate Help Myself?  Not only does it
sound the same every time, there isn't even one solo in it.  Same for the
Jane Song, Christmas, and a few others.  Just a thought.

Does anyone have ANY Sept. 92 DMB?

       I am who I am who I am who am I?              ---Kerry

                  ***Look who's in the freezer***


Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 5:46 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Re: True Reflections; kg

On Thu, 3 Mar 1994, Uncle Ebenezer wrote:

> Jane Song, Christmas, and a few others.  Just a thought.
  ^^^^^^^^^
Well, I DO hate Jane Song.

> 
>        I am who I am who I am who am I?              ---Kerry

Come on Aussie netters, mail me if you're out there!!!

--Ben
--------------------Let's get down to the nitty-gritty----------------------
----------------------Let's get the show on the road.-----------------------


Posted By: bobgee@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 8:59 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Re: phish/dmb & dave's sister

Reid -- I would send your song to the band's management and put it attention
to Dave. I bet Dave would get a real kick out of that and who knows, if he
likes it, maybe he would play it at one of his acoustic shows. Here's the
address: Red Light Management, The Dave Matthews Band, P.O. Box 1911,
Charlottesville, VA 22903.   

And about the Lexington and W-S Dave/Phish shows. I'm sure there will be
plenty of tapers. As far as I know the reason some shows have tapers tickets
is because those venues are restricted seating. For the general admission
shows (including Lex and W-S) anyone can tape.

My friend at UVa got four tix yesterday for me and three friends for the Lex
show. (Planning on roadtripping from Chicago to see Dave at these two
incredible shows -- 14 hrs to see Dave -- can anyone top this?! Well, ok,
Phish added a little incentive) Anyway my friend said he got to Plan 9 20
minutes after the tickets went on sale and he bought the last few of the 300
tickets they were originally alotted. Anyone know how many this seldom-used
(or maybe never-used) venue will hold and will it be inside or outside. I've
heard there will be camping.

Later
Bob


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 10:46 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Re: phish/dmb & dave's sister

On Thu, 3 Mar 1994 bobgee@merle.acns.nwu.edu wrote:
> show. (Planning on roadtripping from Chicago to see Dave at these two
> incredible shows -- 14 hrs to see Dave -- can anyone top this?! Well, ok,
> Phish added a little incentive) Anyway my friend said he got to Plan 9 20

i'm coming from burlington vermont (somewhere around 15 hours give or 
take a few)

alex Crothers

ps-bob..working on the tapes....again my humble apologies.


Posted By: btanen@husc.harvard.edu
Time/Date: 10:54 PM Thursday, March 3, 1994
Subject: Re: phish/dmb & dave's sister

> On Thu, 3 Mar 1994 bobgee@merle.acns.nwu.edu wrote:
> > show. (Planning on roadtripping from Chicago to see Dave at these two
> > incredible shows -- 14 hrs to see Dave -- can anyone top this?! Well, ok,
> > Phish added a little incentive) Anyway my friend said he got to Plan 9 20
> 
> i'm coming from burlington vermont (somewhere around 15 hours give or 
> take a few)
> 

whoa.  slow down there folks.  I FLEW from Boston to Atlanta and then 
drove to Athens all in the same afternoon to see the band.  

> alex Crothers
> 
> 

Ben (got the tapes alex-- thanks!)

--------------------Let's get down to the nitty-gritty----------------------
----------------------Let's get the show on the road.-----------------------


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 9:53 AM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 106

>Just talked to management and i mentioned the rumor that the Winston
>Salem Phish/DMB show had been cancelled.
>as far as they were concerned it was still on.
>where did that info come from (Rick, Gregg??)
>
>alex Crothers
>
ellis of lemuria, whom any self respecting phish.netter knows to be
a reliable source.  but i talked to red light as well, and there's
no problems with 4-21.  chris actually laughed at me when i told
him the rumor.

and by the way brett, isn't it a bit condescending to think that for
an extra $7 we're seeing phish?  i saw phish for $20 over break,
so in all honesty, i feel like i'm seeing dave for free.  he _is_
only the opening band, no matter how high a pedestal we have him
on.  (but wait, i think i _am_ getting into this show for free....;)
as for trax being $9, think of the demand for repeat performances
there at this point.  (can anyone fill me in on the price of phish's
flynn theater show {phish local gig, for those wondering})
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harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
                                   matthews band (including a few 
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Posted By: sdeutsch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 10:01 AM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: Re: phish/dmb in Lexington

On Thu, 3 Mar 1994 bobgee@merle.acns.nwu.edu wrote:

> Anyway my friend said he got to Plan 9 20
> minutes after the tickets went on sale and he bought the last few of the 300
> tickets they were originally alotted. Anyone know how many this seldom-used
> (or maybe never-used) venue will hold and will it be inside or outside. I've
> heard there will be camping.

Ok, I believe the Horse Center holds 6000.  Night Owl Music (in 
Lexington) was allotted 1000 tickets, and they were going pretty fast.  
It's indoors, and there's lots of land around it, but I don't know if you 
can camp or not.  All I can say is that it is going to be so weird to 
have people from all over coming to Lexington...who would of thought?

Sue


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:03 AM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 107

>
>From: Uncle Ebenezer     <kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
>
>I think Rick hates True Ref for the wrong reason.  He says it's not good
>because they don't jam on it (also that it's cheesy.)  If all songs they
>

nope.  i just hate true reflections.  i'm just of the persuasion that
thinks boyd's lyrics are not as poetic and intuitive as dave's.  like
i said, i feel boyd is more commercially minded, and i think that's
why he has such a grin on his face during granny as well.  granny is
a jammin' tune, but it ranks right down there with tr.  whereas, i'm
one of the few people i know that is extremely fond of help myself, and
jane's.  
now that i think about it, one of the most jammed out, improvised songs
dmb does, #36, sits right before granny in my fav tunes spectrum.

(geez, i'm postin' like a mofo, ain't i....)
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rick thompson                      <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
jmu box 5388                       willing to tell you anything you 
harrisonburg va 22807              ever wanted to know about the dave
                                   matthews band (including a few 
(703) 568-4945                     disjunct lyrics).
**********************************************************************
"It is indeed a great gift of heaven to possess...plain common sense."
             --Immanuel Kant
======================================================================


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 10:24 AM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: Flynn & Lexington

On Fri, 4 Mar 1994, SHUT UP! i'm thinking... wrote:
> there at this point.  (can anyone fill me in on the price of phish's
> flynn theater show {phish local gig, for those wondering})

personally i don't think $16 is that bad for phish AND dmb.  the flynn 
theatre show which rick is talking about cost $20 alone. 

alex Crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 10:29 AM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: Re: phish/dmb in Lexington

> Ok, I believe the Horse Center holds 6000.  Night Owl Music (in 
> Lexington) was allotted 1000 tickets, and they were going pretty fast.  
> It's indoors, and there's lots of land around it, but I don't know if you 
> can camp or not.  All I can say is that it is going to be so weird to 
> have people from all over coming to Lexington...who would of thought?

there will will be camping at the Lexington however i have no idea about 
the Winston Salem show. if i had to guess i'd say no.

and if anyone travels to Night Owl to get tix check out the photographs 
hanging all over that place.  if you're into DMB or phish some of them 
should interest you.

alex crothers


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 11:43 AM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject:

> My friend at UVa got four tix yesterday for me and three friends for the Lex
> show. (Planning on roadtripping from Chicago to see Dave at these two
> incredible shows -- 14 hrs to see Dave -- can anyone top this?! Well, ok,
> Phish added a little incentive) Anyway my friend said he got to Plan 9 20
> minutes after the tickets went on sale and he bought the last few of the 300
> tickets they were originally alotted. Anyone know how many this seldom-used
> (or maybe never-used) venue will hold and will it be inside or outside. I've
> heard there will be camping.
> 

well, as far as i know it's in a section of the horse center which is brand new
and has never been used for concerts before.  from what i've heard, it seats
about 6-7000 folks so this is going to be one mother of a show.  if i remember
correctly, it's the new indoor stadium they use mainly for rodeos (!!).  maybe
they'll bring out some clowns and bulls between set breaks...

anyway, expect a very large place.  but very nice -- the horse center is a very
very impressive place.  i'm not even really into horses, but i've been to the
horse center a few times for events just because it's such a nice place to go. 
i think you'll be impressed by the looks of the place but disappointed with how
big the show will be.  but imagine -- seeing dave in front of 6,000 cheering
fans?  what a rush for the band... intense.

reid
-SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU


Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:48 PM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: Re: Jane song

Ben wrote:
> Well, I DO hate Jane Song.

I disliked it for a year, but now I love it.  It peaks really well, I think
because of Carter's cymbals during "he and the queen..."   Learn to love it.
 
Does anybody going to Phish Winst-salem, Atlanta, or Charlotte, have any room
in there car?

Also, for those who have not seen Everything (e:) go see them!  And for those
who have seen them, but didn't like it, try marijuana helps greatly (they had
a petition to sign to put them in the Hemp 100, and they belong there.)  They
are highly underrated.  They jam just as hard as virtually anyone out there
(minus Phish).    


       I am who I am who I am who am I?              ---Kerry

                  ***Look who's in the freezer***


Posted By: SAPIRE@carleton.edu
Time/Date: 3:04 PM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: ok ok

>
>I think Rick hates True Ref for the wrong reason.  He says it's not good
>because they don't jam on it (also that it's cheesy.)  If all songs they
>

nope.  i just hate true reflections.  i'm just of the persuasion that
thinks boyd's lyrics are not as poetic and intuitive as dave's.  like
i said, i feel boyd is more commercially minded, and i think that's
why he has such a grin on his face during granny as well.  granny is
a jammin' tune, but it ranks right down there with tr.  whereas, i'm
one of the few people i know that is extremely fond of help myself, and
jane's.  
now that i think about it, one of the most jammed out, improvised songs
dmb does, #36, sits right before granny in my fav tunes spectrum.
rick thompson                      

so i can't believe i'm joining this whole boyd debate
being that it is stupid and incrediably pretensious to 
pretend to know how Boyd feels about the music he is part of...

so anyhow Boyd's grin is no more radiant than Carter's
which, in my opinion, is an amazingly beautiful expression
of a mood that DMB shows have.  As Dave P. once said
at a show at trax, "i am loving life"
to see music that is so much of a part of the musician's life,
to know that they are lov'n it up there, that makes the show
mean so much from the standpoint of a bond between musicians
and audience...  (if you don't know what i mean read, _Jazz_ by 
Toni dearest)
anyhow, not that dave, leroi, and staphan aren't like this--they are--
i'd have to say that True Reflections works as expression
and there is no point in making statements like
Granny and TR are commercial songs b/c that reflects 
a lack of apprecation for what music means _beneath the surface_
of the sounds--think about it b/4 responding...
read the prologue to Invisible Man
i gotta go...

Ed


Posted By: C526208@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Time/Date: 3:37 PM Friday, March 4, 1994
Subject: Anyone going to KU?

Are there any netters going to the show at Kansas (Benchwarmers) on Monday?
I am leaving from Columbia, MO. around 3 p.m. Monday and will be returning
sometime on Tuesday, if anyone wants to carpool.  Hope to see you there.
 
Dave Culp (C526208@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU)


Posted By: nmayer@uva386.schools.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 6:06 PM Saturday, March 5, 1994
Subject: hello

It's been a slow day.

did anyone from C-ville by chance happen to keep the C-ville
Review two part article that they wrote about DMB over the
summer.  Mine were thrown away, I just thought that they would
be interresting to have.


Posted By: COGBILLJ@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Time/Date: 9:34 PM Saturday, March 5, 1994
Subject: How long will they sing their song?

I was just talking to my friend Kenny and we were wondering how long 
the band will be around, jammin and lovin life?  Are they gonna be 
around for much longer? 2 years? 3 years?  10 years?

Just interested in your prophesies.

all of yours truly,
Jamie Cogbill

"for life is short and sweet for certain"
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