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July 31ľAugust 6, 1994

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Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 8:20 AM Sunday, July 31, 1994
Subject: Re: how to get the tab file (or maybe not...)

As long as we're on Smurfy Dave things, I'm currently listening
to the tapes of the Brown's Island show and I think they're
really tight.  The song list could have left something to be
desired, though...Satellite, Two Step, Ants, Say Goodbye,
Warehouse, Dancing Nancies, Seek Up, Jimi Thing, Jane, Rhyme and
Reason, and Tripping Billies.  I would've like to seen Best or
Lover, but I think I'll get quite my fill of those two when the
cd comes out.  Rhyme and Reason will be on it as well, also Say
Goodbye.  There will be a full band Dancing Nancies, and I hear
that the sax on What Would You Say is phenomenal.  Jimi Thing
will be on there as well.  Dave told me that some of the
arrangements have been played around with to make things a bit
more interesting, and John Popper guests on What Would... (I
think that's the song).

In my personal opinion, I think the Two Step today was the best
one they did, and that Satellite is WAY too f*%#$@* slow.  Oh
well...


Back to Smurfy Dave things, how bout...
"...do as you please, I'll Smurf you up..."
"...turns out, it's not where, but who you Smurf that really
matters..."
"...could I have been dancing Smurfie..."
"...In the spotlight, life is so Smurfy, la la la la la..."
"...blue and blue and rainbow, five colors in my eyes, Smurfies,
Smurfies, what have we done with it, oh Smurfies, what are we
doing in here..."

and, last but not least, the cd...Dismember Blue Smurfs.

That's about all for now, except, damn this Satellite is slow.
For those of you who have a tape with satellite on it when Peter
was in the band, take that speed, and cut it in half.  It's about
2/3 the speed it was on the cd...it's tight, but if you can't
make it tight with it that slow, then something's wrong.
Oh well...

that's all for now...


Wade


Posted By: mmakunas@Jade.Tufts.EDU
Time/Date: 2:48 PM Sunday, July 31, 1994
Subject: A lurker creeps up from the depths.

Well I've been on this list for about 6 months and havn't said a word. Now
that DMB is coming to Boston I'm finally going to be see them live.
However there is one problem. I'm stuck here at Tufts for summer school
and don't have a car. I'd take the "T" to the Paradise but it stops
running shortly after midnite and the show might not be over by then. Is
there any kind sould who would be willing to drive me back to Tufts after
the show? I'd really apreciate it. Thanks.

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Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:33 PM Monday, August 1, 1994
Subject: under the table and smurfing

well...
 
serious first, then we'll get giddy......
 a great thanks to coran and red light for booking edwin mccain band.
what a PLEASANT surprise.... this band ROCKS! and i hadn't seen them since the
ziggy's show with dave over x-mas.  and i've been trying to get ahold of their
cd since then. i ended up going down to vabeach yesterday to see edwin do some
soloing at phil's bar and grill.  and a few other guys also played with him..
anyway... ya'll might not care so i won't ramble about it.
but check these guys out! they're from charleston sc. how's about gettin them
to play more often in the central va area?

the album's titled 'under the table and dreaming'
for those of you who didn't know yet.

the br.isl show was really awesome.  sun (YES!! SUN IN RICHMOND!!)
 and sunburn.  call me 'chargrilled'.
i've gotta agree with wade that two step was amazing, and satellite was WAY TOO
merry-go-round slow.

'we smurf the best of what's around'
'smurf this my arms, smurf this eyes, smurf this my mouth....'
'could i have been smurfette?'
'i take a drink sit back relax, smurf my mind....'

farmer smurf? papa smurf vs.czar nicholas?  you know he was shot right?
you're both wrong. azrael will win out in the end.
what's wrong.... cat got your tail?

shawn has the tab file.  i'm not sure if he's still
active in managing it, but get in touch with somebody, 
shawn, and let us know.   

leggos rule anyday.

anyway... great show.... 
great to see everybody there.  great to meet new people there.

'weebles wobble but they don't fall down.'

oh.... we all know those tacky beach t-shirts, right? 
how's this one:
 'it's not a beer gut, it's a fuel tank, for this sex machine.'
gag. giggle giggle.......

'wouldn't you like to retire with a million?'  -clare emily

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forward to with hope.' -robert frost      my tears with yours.' -kahlil gibran
       
                cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
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Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:52 PM Monday, August 1, 1994
Subject: The Ultimate Smurfy Quote

"Look up look down all around... Papa Smurf"


And with that, I swoosh off through the air, over the sea, next to the cloud.

DMB is going international, at least in the sense of my walkman... I just
hope France is ready for them.


Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:06 PM Monday, August 1, 1994
Subject: SmurfNet

Maybe we should call this thing smurfetts@moose.uvm.edu  ......

Anyway.....my review of the Brown's show is based on Say goodbye and 
Jimmi Thing....Say with band is incredible, but I have a feeling I will 
be mouring the loss of another great solo tune. Jimmi thing was the 
original song that inspired my love for Dave so needless to say I enjoyed 
it immensely. Tapes came out clear as a bell....anyone who knows the set 
list for edwin McCain or the SoulHat songs not off the first album, I 
could use some help completeing my setlists.....

anyways.....Dave storming France with Ben kinda scares me but then again...


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Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:38 PM Monday, August 1, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 240

on (or before) aug 1st, 1994, ben yelled emphatically:
>
>I DIDN'T RAISE MY HAND!!!!
i was only suggesting a person who might have it on hand.
>
>
>Isn't shawn Chords File Chairman, CEO, and Intern?
>
yes, and along with the other two thirds of normal college
type people, he went to subsist off of his parents income,
instead of sitting around his college town living off of
baked potatoes and ramen noodles (yes, ben, this will be
you one day).  in other words, he played it smart, but
got cut off from his net access in the process.

this is something that ben didn't say:
>The song list could have left something to be
>desired, though
at this day and age, this sentence being included in an
internet post on the dave matthews band is known in the
literary circles as a "tautology."  (that's not to say
i'm a member of any literary circle.  my english paper
came back today with the comment "so, what's your point?")

>"...do as you please, I'll Smurf you up..."
taken out of context this sounds like it was uttered by snoop
smurfy smurf.

>"...turns out, it's not where, but who you Smurf that really
>matters..."
MORAL MAJORITY CRIES FOUL.  is there anywhere a decent, god-
fearing american citizen can go without such outrageous, phallic
comments?  what is this "smurfing" you speak of anyway.
ohhhhhhh, the children of today's society....wicked.  WICKED, i
tell you...

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:46 PM Monday, August 1, 1994
Subject: a few passing comments on the new cd...

from a very outspoken minarets netter.

"under the table and dreaming?"

hmmmmm.  sounds suspiciously like something i don't want to be
involved in BUT...i'm prone to say that it's going to be a damn
good cd, nonetheless.  if he wants to name it after the moment
where his voice cracks if he's drunk, that's his pre-rogrative.

but i have better name for it.  sort of like the practice of
knowing quick lay and goodbye as quick lay and goodbye:

let's call it "songs that everyone wants to hear"

hey, it was dave's idea.  told me about it in november.
but i doubt he remembers.  the guy was so hyped up on
coffee i thought he was going to explode.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 9:58 PM Monday, August 1, 1994
Subject: new cd, the real scoop.

i have heard from reliable sources that the album will be entitled
   "sex machine"
and will contain 12 (not 11 but 12) remixes of Ants Marching including 3 
quite impressive disco versions.

in addition, there will be a grunge type verion of say goodbye.

just thought i'd set the record straight.
-special guest appearance by meatloaf on say goodbye.


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Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 12:47 AM Wednesday, August 3, 1994
Subject: brown's island setlists

for anyone that may be interested:
dirtball: hills&whores, blockaders, mr. scarecrow, ring job, end of the 
          earth, fiddler a dream, i never told, pink surrender, bound to 
          lose, little only, lil' devils, drunk, head kicked in (38.20)
edwin mccain: ?, solitude!, guinavere, bitter chill, welcome to the 90s,
              don't bring me down, life in the storm (1.0.14)
soulhat: t. burglar>good to be gone, no neck joe, build it up & tear it
         down, prayin' for rain>wiggin', big nose, alone, bonecrusher,
         holy cow (1.3.51)
dave matthews band: satellite, 2-step, ants marching, say goodbye,
                    warehouse, dancing nancies, seek up, jimithing,
                    song that jane likes, rhyme&reason, trippinig billies
                    (1.34.32-w/cut)

dgp


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Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:15 PM Wednesday, August 3, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 242

in boofy's words:
>
>feeling I will
>be mouring the loss of another great solo tune. 

this is a comment appearing all to frequently on the net.
i'll be amazed if we see much of a solo dave matthews ever
again.  when you take dave's 25 (+ or -) years and sum them
up, you'll probably find that he's spent the majority of
it wishing he was in a band, and he now has that.  i really
don't think he ever played those opening set strictly for
our enjoyment (which no musician should), but simply to occupy
himself and to test his music on a prospective audience.

let's make the age old comparison to phish:  you don't see
trey all intimate with his acoustic, do you?  i don't know
that trey ever did, but i really think that dave has worked
really hard to be a part of "the dave matthews band", not
"the dave mattews band featuring dave matthews."  don't get
me wrong, i enjoy seeing dave solo as much as anybody else,
but i think that he's ready to consolidate himself with his band 
now.  no more of the certain alienation from the rest of the band 
that playing for 20 minutes, in the spotlight, by yourself to 
warm up can produce.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:16 PM Thursday, August 4, 1994
Subject: Re: brown's island setlists

This is just a short followup to Gray's post about the Brown's
Isle show--
The first Edwin McCain Band's song is called "America's Street"

Just a thought...


Smurfing...In the eyes of the maker...

Wade


Posted By: mxgall@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 2:05 PM Thursday, August 4, 1994
Subject: Dave and Tim Show

    On the note of Dave playing solo, I was at the Birchmere Tuesday
night to see Bela (with that little accent over the "e"!) Fleck and
the Flecktones.  I noticed on their calendar that Dave and Tim are
scheduled to play August 25th(?).  I'm not sure of the date, but it's
the Thursday after the Richmond HORDE.  Special guests possibly?  Who
knows??

                                                        --Mike


Posted By: btanen@archive.phish.net
Time/Date: 12:42 AM Friday, August 5, 1994
Subject: 34 36, and BEN RETURNS FROM TOUR

>
>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 09:19:11 -0500 (EST)
>> From: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
>> To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
>> Subject: ben and clare go f**k yourselves
>> Message-ID: <01HEKPI5LYRC8YBGW0@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
>
>> by the way, i think rhyme & reason is a shoe-in, and so is #34.
>
>#34 or #36?     probably #36
>

Hey y'all.  This message is way old, but I've got a few questions about
these two tunes:

o Was #34 written solely in memory of Miguel, or was it dedicated to his
memory at 3/7/93 while the song was played before that?

o Does anyone know the words for #36.  Dave is definitely saying something,
and I was wondering if his is just ad-libbing during what is really an
instrumental, or is he mumbling the same words every time they play the
tune.

o Where do these numbers come from?


IN OTHER NEWS . . .

I spent about 2 and a half weeks in South Africa during July.  It's a
lovely country.  I wore my dave solo shirt about six times (at least once
in each of the five cities I visited) and not a SINGLE person saiud
anything to me.  I also scoured record stores from Cape Point to Kruger,
but there was nothing available under Dave Matthews.  Does anyone know what
Dave was up to before he came to the USA; and when was that, by the way?

--Ben

Look for a Harvard '97 in front at the Providence show!


            Volks wat foute gewaar of enige verbeteringe aan
            die hand wil doen, word genooi om te skryf aan:

                        btanen@archive.phish.net


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:42 PM Friday, August 5, 1994
Subject: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu

gotta love yeats.....

okay...
from what i understand, the reason for the numbered songs is that each
particular song was the 34th one, or the 36th song by the band.
maybe someone can shed a little more light on this if they've got any 
inside skinny.

words for 36.  yes... they're in my possession. i've got a rendezvous with our
lyric/faq ceo tonight... and i'll let him know i'll be mailing him the
transcription.  so it'll be in the lyrics file next time rick sends it out...
patience is called upon.
two step will also be in the file, so all we need now is the lyrics for 34 to
make our file complete. anyone? anyone? just mail'em to rick ......

one thing i'll divulge about 36..... 
dave is singing, 'honey honey, come and dance for me....'

who's gonna be jammin at w-s with me on the 9th?
'heaven come my way.....'

jason.... you owe me a firstborn and blanks... did you get my mail?
 get in touch... stranger....
'we'll see how brave you are... we'll see how fast you'll be running.....'

smiles, jubilance and light everyone..
let your souls soar............
clare emily


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Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 4:09 PM Friday, August 5, 1994
Subject: Re: ben descends... slouching toward bethlehem

On Fri, 5 Aug 1994 Clare "majestic swam" Clifford wrote:

> gotta love yeats.....

I do?

> from what i understand, the reason for the numbered songs is that each
> particular song was the 34th one, or the 36th song by the band.
> maybe someone can shed a little more light on this if they've got any 
> inside skinny.

the skinny from Carter was that both of these songs are about friends of
Daves that died (Miguel Valdez and Christopher Honiey, I'm positive that
they're both spelled wrong, my apologies to the deceased..) anyway, Honiey
was some kinda freedom fighter that died in the fight against aparthied
(which leads me to believe that maybe he and Dave are High School chums or
sumptin...

> one thing i'll divulge about 36..... 
> dave is singing, 'honey honey, come and dance for me....'

since the song is about a guy named Honiey (god I hate spelling his name
wrong, promise me that when I die, you'll all spell MY name write on here)
I think the line is Honiey Honiey, come and dance with me...

> who's gonna be jammin at w-s with me on the 9th?

I wish...

'lean upon me, I'll lean upon you, we'll be okaaaayyyyyy....'


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 5:03 PM Friday, August 5, 1994
Subject: Re: ben descends... slouching toward bethlehem

Hey Clair Emily (is that your first name or first and last? :)

Just responding to your query--- I'll be in W-S on the 9th. Just moved 
here from charlottesville--- are you still at U of R? What year are you? 
Just wondering... got friends there. Be forewarned.. W-S sucks.
But, Dave wont, and im very psyched to see the band, just finished 12 
credits of grad school, im ready to let loose! see you there
Kristin


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 8:26 PM Friday, August 5, 1994
Subject: $.02 for the fun of it...

To respond to recent posts....

1.Blacke Kambill (Didn't I spell it right...?) so of us thought you WERE 
dead for a while.....

2.Did you tune France into Dave, Ben?

3.Alas, I do mourn solo performance by Dave, but 
shovelheadchickensububergallekiowitz has a point, maybe I just need to 
see Dave and Tim, something I have had the pleasure of.....If anyone has 
more info about the Birchmere show and maybe some directions I'd 
appreciate it....
Also as dave says In the spotlight, life is so peachy
4.I have come to the conclusion that I have no idea what a tautology is, 
and therefore will be utterly confused. My feeling is, that while the 
setlist can usually lave somehting to be desired, there is a mathematical 
equation involved, ie. Dave has around 40 songs and various covers, we 
have seen dave around a zillion times. If dave plays a completely new 
setlist each night we can only see him four times until he repeats stuff, 
therefore shows will tend to be the same after a while. Of coure the only 
setlist that wouldn't leave anything to be desire for me is to hear 
everything in one huge 4 1/2 hour godsend for us tapers miracle show, but 
I digress......

5.Thanx to those (Gray) who provided me with Browns island setlist stuff, 
mybe we should start a dirtball net....

6.I forgot...

anyway gotta go cuz clare should be here any minute and I get to meet 
shovel with a chicken sub in his hair....

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|Chris "Boofy" Buford 							|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
| "The future is no place to place your better days..." 		|
|									|
|v3.1	|-)				David Matthews	 		|
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Posted By: gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:17 PM Saturday, August 6, 1994
Subject: Tennessee shows

Anyone going to the 10th or 11th shows in Memphis and Nashville?  I think 
I'm going to both of them so if anyone needs a ride from the Nashville 
area...  I'll think about it.  Only if you're having a good hair day and 
the new DMB sticker is on my car.  Don't fear, it's not new, just new for 
me.  Bye bye, oh I might have some tab...  email me.  it's all very hush 
hush.  Graham
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