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September 1824, 1994

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Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 8:29 PM Sunday, September 18, 1994
Subject: Sorry Folks

I hate to subject everyone on the DMB newsgroup to this fallacy, but I was
supposed to trade some tapes with a guy named Brian Blaloc from James Madison
U, but I lost his email address.  I think we got in contact through this group,
so Brian if you're out there, email me back.  I had a major file loss on
Friday, and lost a lot of files, so....  Anyways, I apologize to all the others
who had to deal with this inconvenience and have a great day....
 
Steve


Posted By: benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 8:49 PM Sunday, September 18, 1994
Subject: DMB Philly show

Just so that everybody knows, the October 1 DMB show at the TLA in Philly 
is NOT opening for Rusted Root.  It is just a regular Dave show with From 
Good Homes opening.  Dave is, though, opening up for the Root on October 
7 in Pittsburgh at their belated CD release party.  Keep it jammin'

Ben


" . . . sometimes it takes a jimi thing to keep me swingin'"

				- Dave

Play disc.  Disc.  Disc.  Disc.  And try to relax a little bit too.

Benjamin Booth '95				benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu
(610) 690 - 3772				bbooth1@cc.swarthmore.edu


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:01 AM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Re: about lyrics to the maker.

sure, throw them in....

alex crothers		


On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug wrote:

> thanx ellis, but i was wondering:  does everyone want the lyrics to
> the bands covers in the file?  i always figured i was making a file
> for the band specifically, so i left out all the covers.  if the net
> thinks they should be there (i know that phish.net includes covers),
> let me know.  aside from the maker, we need me & julio and watchtower.
> i really don't think at this point we need nature, or any of the others,
> because they just don't seem that important.  well, maybe redemption
> song.
> 
> i know they never play me & julio anymore, nor are they likely to, but
> the version i've heard is so great that every dave fan deserves a copy,
> and therefore the lyrics.
> 
> so, if you think the lyrics file should include these covers, just send
> me a quick note saying so, and i'll work on getting them in there.
> 
> ____________________________________
> "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
>   to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
>         --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
> __________________________________     \_________________________________
>                                   \   rick thompson
>                                    \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
>                                     \____________________________________
> 


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:18 AM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Everything Tour Dates

check this band out....they play a very wide genre of musicical styles 
and can take you on a literal rollercoaster as a result.  Very talented 
with a complete horn section, this band keeps you dancin, groovin and 
smokin.  There symbol is an "e" with a ":" after it in a circle..so it looks 
something like this (e:)..you get the picture.  They came out of James 
Madison University and there base is now Washington, DC.  It's a six 
piece that plays over a dozen solid instruments (not just percussion 
instruments).  check them out...check them out...check them out.

alex crothers

15-Sep  TRAX - CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA   
16-Sep  LONGWOOD COLL - FARMVILLE VA   
17-Sep  WASHINGTON DC - OUTDOOR SHOW    
18-Sep  INNSBROOK - RICHMOND VA   
21-Sep  CATS CRADLE - CHAPEL HILL, NC   
22-Sep  VA HORSE CENTER - W/ THE CONNELLS   
23-Sep  ATTIC - GREENVILLE NC   
24-Sep  MUSIC FARM - CHARLESTON SC   
25-Sep  ROCKAFELLAS - COLUMBIA ,SC   
28-Sep  GA THEATRE  ATHENS, GA TENT...    
29-Sep  EXIT INN, NASHVILLE,TN   
30-Sep  THE NICK - BIRMINGHAM, AL   
1-Oct  SMITHS OLD BAR - ATLANTA   
6-Oct  CHINA CLUB - NYC, NY   
7-Oct  STONE BALLOON - WILMINGTON, DE   
8-Oct  ZIGGY'S - WINSTON SALEM   
13-Oct  FLOODZONE - RICHMOND, VA   
14-Oct  VIRGINIA TECH . - BLACKSBURG, VA   
18-Oct  COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON - CHARLESTON, SC   
19-Oct  JACK STRAW - CHARLOTTE, NC   
21-Oct  UNIV. OF AL.- TUSCALOOSA , AL   
25-Oct  YANNI'S - TALLAHASSEE, FL   
26-Oct  COVERED DISH- GAINESVILLE, FL   
27-Oct  PIKA HOUSE - ATHENS, GA   
28-Oct  VANDERBILT FRAT, NASHVILLE, TN   
29-Oct  W&L - LEXINGTON, VA


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:16 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: The new disc...

I know we have discussed the songs a zillion times, so I'll leave that 
out, but I just got the new disc, the actual thing, courtesy of my job at 
WLUR the school radio station. I think it is quite good, but leaves out 
boyd solos as someone has already mentioned. Dave does the kinda geeky, 
kinda nifty thing of making #34 track 34 with 1second tracks inbetween. 
The new satellite adds Tim which is cool, but I might as well never 
listen to the Ants again...and I also lament the fact that, as I had 
somehow thought, that Say Goodbye is nowhere to be seen. Anyways IMHO a 
solid effort showing what the studio can add...
Picts inside the cover are cool too, I think you can see downtown 
Richmond in the top right coner of one, but I could be wrong...

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Posted By: X51A@vm.stlawu.edu
Time/Date: 1:46 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Boston Show: 8/5/94 ???

     If anyone has a copy of the August 5 show in Boston at the
Paradise Rock Club, I would love to set up some sort of trade.
I have a few boots myself (Even a DAT copy straight off the sound board
of the April show at PSK fraternity at St. Lawrence University).

                                          Thanks-
                                                 Joe

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Posted By: Rsr3078@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:49 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Music

Hey everybody.  I've got kind of a strange request.  One of my good friends
who is also a Dave fan, plays the guitar and was asking if I knew how to get
their sheet music.  So is there anybody out there that has this, or plays the
guitar and has a few tunes figured out?  If so let me know.  Thanks
Alix


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:BH7N@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA
Time/Date: 3:32 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Re: The new disc...

Can anyone list the songs on the new album for those of us
who don't know already?

Kwon


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-11.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 4:07 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Re: The new disc...

These aren't quite in order cause  it's from memory

Best Of What's Around
What Would You Say?
Rhyme And Reason
Ants Marching
Warehouse
Dancing Nancies
Satellite
Jimi Thing
TypicalSituation
Lover Lay Down
Pay For What You Get
#34


John


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-11.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 4:29 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Ants Marching on the new album

I've heard 1/2 the album, but I've not heard Ants yet, and it's my biggest
concern:  Could whoever has heard it tell me if they left out  the
"Deuling banjos"??

(I hope so, really....)

John


Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 5:00 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Blue Screen Show Playlist 9/19

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico and Ooodz, 2-3:30 Sunday Nights/Monday Mornings
89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago

9/19/94

Brazil Theme............Brazil Soundtrack
Llama-->NO2 (underneathe opening schpeil)....Phish 7/8/94 Great Woods
Rhyme & Reason..........Dave Matthews Band, 7/28/94 Irving Plaza NYC
Trey Anastasio Interview-->..................Recorded 7/15/94
Harpua-->Also Sprach Zarathustra-->Harpua-->
AC/DC Bag...............Phish 7/16/94 Sugerbush, VT
Run-around..............Blues Traveler 6/6/94 Princeton NJ
Send Me On My Way.......Rusted Root "Cruel Sun"
Say Goodbye.............Dave Matthews Band, 7/28/94 Irving Plaza NYC
Tela....................Phish 6/11/94 Red Rocks
Built For Comfort.......Merl Saunders "It's in the Air"
The Take Out-->Porch Song....Widespread Panic 9/26/93 Columbia, SC   
Big House Blues.........Ren & Stimpy

Tapes MAY be availible


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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 5:56 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Re: Ants Marching on the new album

On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, John Timothy Viega wrote:

> I've heard 1/2 the album, but I've not heard Ants yet, and it's my biggest
> concern:  Could whoever has heard it tell me if they left out  the
> "Deuling banjos"??

Whilst having the disc in my posession, I could not bear to force myself 
to another version of ants, I already have heard it played 6 different 
ways and have grown to sticking with my favorite bootlegs (sut as Sweet 
Home Alabama->Ants Marching)

> (I hope so, really....)
IMHO the dueling banjos made the song in the first place and gave it a 
cool feel, but I have succumbed to overexposure and am thankful to not 
hear those fatul notes at a concert....

this sounds like I am an english major, but I'm not hmmm...
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Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:50 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: non-dmb related but read it if you want a nice tummy tickler

as i said, this has no relevance at all to dmb, but i thought it was funny as
shit... thought i'd share some laughter... there's often not enough of it
around....
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Early Retirement

 After years of risking flipper and fin for their nation, one of the U.S.
Navy's most elite squads has fallen victim to post-Cold War budget cuts.  The
Pentagon says that it no longer has enough work for a third of its dolphins,
which have helped portect its anchored vessels in conflicts ranging from
Vietnam to the Gulf War.
 The squad of 100 is to be slimmed down to 70.
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'racing turtles the grapefruit is winning'
cec



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  'even when i'm right with you i'm so far away i can try to get away but i've 
 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
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Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:36 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: tab for tripping billies

the long awaited tablature for tripping billies.  a few words of warning:
yes, that verse riff is as hard as it looks.  the key to it (and most any
dmb song) is to use your pinky for any note you can't quite reach.  just
practice.  

opening riff found on most pre r2t tripping billies:

-
-
-  6     6     4 4  4  4 4 4 4  6     6     4 4  /7  7 7 7 7
-  x     x     x x  x  x x x x  x     x     x x   0  0 0 0 0
-  7     7     7 7  7  7 7 7 7  7     7     7 7   x  x x x x
-  5     5     5 5  5  5 5 5 5  5     5     5 5  /7  7 7 7 7

sometimes repeated once more, other times repeated many times with
vocal jam

next riff/opening riff as found on r2t:
this riff is used throughout the song, and is easiest to master if
you use index finger for all 2s and 5s on the low e-string, your 
ring finger for all 3s and 7s on the low e-string, your middle finger
on all 2s and 6s on the d-string, and your pinky for all 4s and 7s on
the d-string.  and an easier way to master this song is to watch dave
carefully if you ever get the chance.  it may sound like a simplistic
way, but if you can get up closer to him, you'd be amazed at how his
progressions stand out in your mind when you get back to your own axe,
even if you were standing thirty feet away from him.

-                                   
-
-  2   4             2   4   7   6   2   4            2  4  6  7
-  0   0             0   0   0   0   0   0            0  0  0  0
-  x   x             x   x   x   x   x   x            x  x  x  x
-  2   3             2   3   7   5   2   3            2  3  5  7

--again



                                ______use your ring finger to hit that 7.
verses:                         V
-
-                                           __________________________________
-    6  4\ 2     7     5  4  2      7 7 7   | <--your pinky on that one      |
-    7           7     5            4 4 4   | <--your index finger here      |
-            /5     3               x x x   | <--and your ring finger should |
- /5                           /(7) 7 7 7   |    automatically do this.      |
1)   we were above you were st.....neath us |________________________________|
2)   dragons were smoked......were stinging

-
-
-    6  4\ 2     7            2        4
-    7           7            0        0
-            /5               x        x
- /5                          2        3
1)   we were not  yet lovers
2)  i would soon, to be crazy


chorus (this can be filled out considerably):
-
-
-         7        6        2  4  7  6          7     6      2  4  6  7
-         0        0        0  0  0  0          0     0      0  0  0  0
-         x        x        x  x  x  x          x     x      x  x  x  x
-         7        5        2  3  7  5          7     5      2  3  5  7
   so eat drink and be merry            for tomorrow we die
   

"cause we're trippin' billies..."


verse again.



that's it.  guitarists and ukelelists alike are aloud to rewrite this as they
see fit.




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"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 9:21 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Band Names Summary (finally)

some of you die-hards may remember my plea last spring for names for my band.
well, i promised i'd pass along all the responses i got so here they are --
good for a laugh if nothing else.  thank you muchly to all who responded...
unfortunately, the band lives on without a name (no offense to the
contributors but nothing jumped out at us).  anyway, for now we're still
calling ourselves "kindband"... someone told me there's a band in maine with
the same name -- can anyone verify/disprove that rumor?  thank you again to
all who wrote and enjoy.......


Reid

SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 9:21 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Dammit... here are the names...

From: J. A. Crothers <jcrother@MOOSE.UVM.EDU>

my favorites:
stoney corner
alternating state(s)

some others that were mentioned:
the spoonge band
madrugada

i just went throught this with a band here at vt so.....

alex crothers

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From: Ted M. Kartzman <kartzman@SAS.UPENN.EDU>

Spice-
	I was going to use these for my own band, but I've got no talent
and no band, so here you go:

Hendrix once called the Fillmore West "The Electric Church", so that was
my first choice.
Also, "The Voodudes" (I don't really like this one, unless it's a world beat
group).
My dad likes "The Pharohs of Rhythm"
and I've got a few more but they pretty much suck.  Hope I was of help.

					Check you later,
							 TK

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From: saul wertheimer <sauldude@MERLE.ACNS.NWU.EDU>

reid dude-- i think you should call your band "flaming marshmallow." or
maybe "double-sided tape."
peace,
saul.

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From: Jason Thompson  <jjthomps@SLATE.MINES.COLORADO.EDU>

In article <CpK061.JtL@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> you wrote:

: i am in a hordish band here at dickinson college and we need a good name by 
: tomorrow for our band (we're making promo stuff up for the summer and fall).  
: sooo... please email any names you can think up to:


Hows about THE GARDEN GNOMADS
	or THE SHELF ELVES
These are two that I have always wanted to use for my bands, but my bands
keep splitting up, moving away, joining other bands, going to schools in
far away states etc....
Jason

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From: JAVA <74051.710@COMPUSERVE.COM>

how about grilled cheese alternative?  or maybe hand crafted Al?

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From: 2FS4ALSENP@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU

having just named a band myself I understand and can empathize with your
delima.  sometimes random dictionary pointing works in a pinch anyway I have a 
lot of left over names.  Here are the best:

Kalijuba    (Kali=Female Hindu goddess of destruction and creation, cohort of
Shiva.  Juba=Afroamerican dance develped on southern plantations accompanied by
rhythmic hand clapping)

CircusWorkers

Thats it signed,
cRaZy OtTeR

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From: mswalsh@CATS.UCSC.EDU

I was always partial to this band name, which I made up myself:

Haiku d'Etat

Mark

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From: JONICOTRA@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU

how about 

talking with marbles or
leviathan flamingo

ok, maybe not.

josh

-----------------------------------------

	Well, let's see....
1) Velocity is a Vector 
	(Yes, I'm a physics major)
2) String Theory
	(See above)
3) Ballestra
	(I also fence)
4) Four Number Array (or five or six or three or whatever)
	(Lotsa Computer Science majors here)
5) Elliptical Orbit
	(Once again, physics)
6) Wa.  
	(One of the most significant philosophical concepts ever.  Also my 
		.sig) 
7) Yes I Am.  
	(Bud Light or the NCAA Final Four)

	Let me know what you think of them, huh?  Thanks.

-- 

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From: Lois Bartolone <bartolon@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU>

Hmm....good band names.  Mental floss?  Kind of cheezy.....How about just
taking a few random words you see on signs or whatever and sticking them
together.  You can get cool names like Ekoostik Hookah this way if you change
the spelling a bit.  My band is named Filbert.  There's a rather disgusting
story behind it.  You could take a funny inside joke type thing and name the
band after that....Anyway, enough of my rambling.  Good luck in getting a
name.
-Jake

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From: Jonathan H. Bartlett <jbartlet@LIBERTY.UC.WLU.EDU>


A few suggestions from my days as a punk rocker:

Doctor Huxtable Wears Unusual Sweaters
The Minstrel Cramps (my personal favorite)
Screaming Fetus
Bambi's Mother is Dead

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From: your head is a shovel-- use it. <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> 

i always wanted to name a band "bunker lane" but then found a 
better one.  (now if i could just find a band;).

so, if it sounds cool to you, it's all yours...

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Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 9:27 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 289

alex crothers writes:
>They [everything] came out of James
>Madison University and there base is now Washington, DC. 
>
>alex crothers
>
and then posts (irrelevent dates deleted):
>15-Sep  TRAX - CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA
>16-Sep  LONGWOOD COLL - FARMVILLE VA
>18-Sep  INNSBROOK - RICHMOND VA
>22-Sep  VA HORSE CENTER - W/ THE CONNELLS
>13-Oct  FLOODZONE - RICHMOND, VA
>14-Oct  VIRGINIA TECH . - BLACKSBURG, VA
>29-Oct  W&L - LEXINGTON, VA
>
>
now, ask me why a band that came out of harrisonburg has decided to skip
harrisonburg on it's tour to promote it's latest cd and i'll say:
1)h-burg's musical scene sucks.
2)h-burg's musical scene sucks.
3)h-burg's musical scene sucks.
a lot of us here at jmu are wondering why we aren't mentioned in the
liner notes of r2t along with w&l and uva.  simple.  our program board
is too cheap to get us great bands.  so why am i sitting here bitching
about it an entire country's worth of dave matthews fans?  well, this
is more directed towards local people within the range of the dates i
reposted above:  send a note to a upb saying that you'll come to h-burg
to support a headlining band.  it's twenty nine cents, and i don't
think it would be that hard for you to follow up, seeing as jmu students
have been flocking to other schools for years (but not by choice.)

i guess what really bothers me is that while dave is making it big out
of c-ville, and acknowledging his roots, everything, which really is
a great band, is being forced to place roots in dc, and full stop, ALSO
from harrisonburg, uprooted themselves to make a home in athens.  why
do bands from h-burg have to relocate to other cities to get noticed
at all?  because h-burg is a black-hole in the music world.  so, if
i can just get a glimmer of a hope that we can get some good music here
this spring, i'd appreciate it.
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"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 9:39 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: the ants marching on the disc

i'm not posting a full review of the cd here on the net because i'm of
the philosophy that you should have some surprises, but i'll say these
two things:

1) i really like best now.  it was of passing interest to me before,
   but now i'm completely hooked.  ie: it fucking rocks.

2) if you can find a way to program your cd player to automatically
   skip ants, by all means do.


without further ado, here is a full critique of ants as it appears on
uttad.  if your undigestified, you can hit delete now and just wait,
if your digestified, i've left excess room at the top and bottom of the
critique so that you can hit return successively (once or twice, i don't
know because i'm not done yet) until you see my sig.  it's __extremely__
subjective and worth many a flame, but so many people have talked about
their problems with the r2t version that i see no reason to be nice.  i
know this goes against the "minarets.net is such a nice place" ideal, but
a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do (and you women are more than welcome
to do what you wanna do as well..;)












it's the same goddamn fucking thing as remember two things with maybe
three minor changes:
1)the annoying intro has been shortened, but alas, not altogether 
  eliminated.
2)they've added some sort of abbreviated chorus between the first and
  second verse where dueling banjos has existed up until this point.
3)the other places where dueling banjos appeared is now just a simple
  jam b/w boyd and leroi.

aside from that, it's the same song _yet again_.  it still starts with
a really annoying chop from carter which segues horribly into what 
actually sounds like the exact same mix from trax on aug 31st, 1993,
only without the crowd's cheering.

















and now back to our regularly scheduled minarets.net.  i insist that
you flame me personally, because a lot of people like minarets the way
it is, ie:no flame wars.  

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"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
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Posted By: cecliff@vt.edu
Time/Date: 10:20 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: article / interview file...and other bullshit

phlame people because they hate ants? rick?!!
if people are going to phlame dear rick them feel free to phlame dear clare 
emily 'keeper of peace and humility' cause the only think i like about that 
song is the line 'take these chances place them in a box' and that's all i 
like about that song.
ptooey.

this is the LAST call for people to send me anything they feel is relevant 
and necessary in the MINARETS.NET INTERVIEW / ARTICLE FILE.
(gasp.. yes, i did actually use capitals.. i DO have a shift key.. [wink wink] )

if you don't want to type them out and send them email, send to clare emily 
clifford 609 north main street apt 5, blacksburg va 24060.

also.. if you would like to recieve a completed copy of the minarets.net 
article file, send a msg to this address (cecliff@vt.edu) saying inventively 
and cheerfully that you'd be ecstatic and frollicking at the idea of getting 
a copy. (humor me, ever since bloom county was dropped, life's been a little 
monotonous...)

ok? 
everybody got it?

love and light and rainforest crunch with your S.O. ....
clare emily
***************************************************************************
  'i was wondering where the ducks went when the lagoon got all 
 icy and frozen over.  i wondered if some guy came in a truck and 
  took them away to a zoo or something. or if they just flew away'

                    cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
***************************************************************************


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-10.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 10:34 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Re: article / interview file...and other bullshit

	Hmm, too bad there seems to be a deadline, my brother has the
master for the first interview Carter did with the band, but now that
they're getting big, Carter wants to hear the interview to make sure he 
didn't stick his foot in his mouth before we transcribe it, and I plan
on respecting that.  (There are some things he said which he probably
wouldn't want to admit to.  There is also Dave singing Monkees songs in
the background.)  If this doesn't get transcribed for a while, will
it still be able to make it in?  
	It is also really long, as I recall, it's a whole 45 minute side
of a cassettee, and then some....

Also, is no one hosting a DMB web page?  If not, why not??

John


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 10:55 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: Re: Band Names Summary (finally

> anyway, for now we're still
> calling ourselves "kindband"... someone told me there's a band in maine with
> the same name -- can anyone verify/disprove that rumor?  thank you again to
> all who wrote and enjoy.......

 There is a band here in New Orleans who call themselves "Kind" and 
printed up a bunch of fliers on green paper.... I think that must be a 
pretty common name around the U.S. ...  But, I've haven't seen them yet, 
and have know idea what their style is...
 
(Hmm.... I wonder if they get high...)

later,
victor
wandres@tulane.edu


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 11:05 PM Monday, September 19, 1994
Subject: 5-27-93

The following is the structure for the 5-27-93 Dave & Tim Tree:

D>D
   Gray Proulx-grayp@pinn.net
           Joe Doheny-mah76x@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com
           Kim Long-klong@nysernet.org
           Ben Stirling-nebuious@aol.com
           Graham Spice-gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
   Graham Spice-gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
            Matt Currie-mcurrie1@ithaca.edu
            Barry Rosenhouse-brosenh@unix.cc.emory.edu
            Bill Lakenan-lakenan@cmu.edu

D>A
     Joe Doheny-mah76x@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com
             Laura Morgan-lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
             Dan Grellinger-grelling@cae.wisc.edu
             Eric Hesse-ewhesse@amherst.edu
      Kim Long-klong@nysernet.org
             Dominic Devito-ddevito@darwin.cc.nd.edu
             Clare Emily Clifford-cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
             Brian Lipman-chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
      Ben Stirling
             Marc Moody-mrmoody@colby.edu
             Rich Prisinzano-rpprisin@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
             Adam Vann-axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
      Matt Currie-mcurrie1@ithaca.edu
             Brett Kingswell-bmking@mail.wm.edu
             Chris Buford-cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu
             Ben Booth-benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu
      Barry Rosenhouse-brosenh@unix.cc.emory.edu
             Chris Van Tuin-gt7672a@prism.gatech.edu
             Will Foy-wifoy@davidson.edu
             Todd Berkowitz-tdb1 - ?
       Bill Lakenan-lakenan@cmu.edu
             Shawn Peters-gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
             Jason Thompson-jjthomps@mines.colorado.edu
             Mike Corr-mgcorr@colby.edu

A>A
Dan Grellinger-grelling@cae.wisc.edu
       Matt Sweeney-msweeney@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu
       Brian Hauser-hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu
       Chad Lukkarila-crlukkar@mtu.edu
Eric Hesse-ewhesse@amherst.edu
       David Sacker-dsacker@raptor.swarthmore.edu
       Dave Hamilton-daveh@shell.portal.com
       Alix Refshauge-rsr3078@aol.com
Laura Morgan-lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
        Paul Albert-palber@corp.cssi.net
        Tim Kennedy-timothy.d.kennedy@dartmouth.edu

I hope this works out ok.  As always, any comments questions or suggestions are 
welcome.  If you can't contact your parent or children, let me know because I still have 
all the signup forms.  I set everything up so that quality would be retained as best 
possible.
If you didn't get to sign up, but want copies, there were several people that offered to 
make copies that don't have to.  Just let me know.

Enjoy

Gray


Posted By: gilde@halcyon.com
Time/Date: 12:07 AM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: Seattle 7/17/94 Tree

Sorry for the delay in organizing the Seattle 7/17/94 tree.  Here it is,
finally.

gilde@halcyon.com (DAT master) Rob Gilde
  |--- grayp@pinn.net (DAT clone) D. Gray Proulx
  |      |--- gspice@wlu.edu (DAT clone) Graham Spice
  |      |--- btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu (DAT clone) Ben Tanen
  |      |--- dan@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu (DAT clone) Daniel W. Schar
  |
  |--- klong@nysenet.org (DAT clone) K.A. Long
  |      |--- mxgall@mail.wm.edu (gen-0 cass) Mike Gallan
  |      |      |--- ar_murphy@smcvax.smcvt.edu (gen-1 cass) Andrew Murphy
  |      |
  |      |--- cmshapir@artsci.wustl.edu (gen-0 cass) Corey Shapiro
  |             |--- deters@raleng.mtc.com (gen-1 cass) Vince Deters
  |
  |--- malloy@osprey.hac.com (gen-0 cass) Jerry Malloy
  |      |--- grelling@cae.wisc.edu (gen-1 cass) Dan Grellinger
  |      |--- lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu (gen-1 cass) Laura Morgan
  |
  |--- SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU (gen-0 cass) Reid Spice
  |      |--- jzweig@mail.sas.upenn.edu (gen-1 cass) Jeremy Zweig
  |      |--- Loan1@Yalevm.cis.yale.edu (gen-1 cass) Jordan Shapiro
  |
  |--- av603@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu (gen-0 cass, Dolby C) Dave Culp
         |--- Timothy.D.Kennedy@Dartmouth.EDU (gen-1 cass) Tim Kennedy
         |--- gt7672a@prism.gatech.edu (gen-1 cass) Chris Van Tuin
    

I wanted to keep it wide at the top so that nobody would get anything
worse than a cass copy of a cass copy of a DAT.  Thus, I'm making 3
cassettes and 2 DATs myself.

Please let me know ASAP if I made any mistakes or if anyone's situation
has changed.  I tried to make this structure work well for everyone.

If anyone does not know how trees work, don't be afraid to ask.  I
realize this is a terse posting with little explanation.

If you're getting a tape from me, I will contact you directly.  Everyone
else, please contact those above you and those below you.

If you have trouble getting in touch with anyone, let me know: I have on
file, the phone numbers and addresses that everyone sent in.

Happy trading!

Rob


Posted By: cws9669@ultb.isc.rit.edu
Time/Date: 12:29 AM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: Please Subscribe Me.

I think that the subject covers it all.

thanks

chris.


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 3:13 PM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 289

> i guess what really bothers me is that while dave is making it big out
> of c-ville, and acknowledging his roots, everything, which really is
> a great band, is being forced to place roots in dc, and full stop, ALSO
> from harrisonburg, uprooted themselves to make a home in athens.  why
> do bands from h-burg have to relocate to other cities to get noticed
> at all?  because h-burg is a black-hole in the music world.  so, if
> i can just get a glimmer of a hope that we can get some good music here
> this spring, i'd appreciate it.

i remember some time ago there was an article in the back of Spin 
Magazine detailing the music scene coming out of the H'burg area[actually 
it was not H'burg but some area close to it--newport?] and it seemed to 
indicate that this area could become the "next Seattle"---hurray! :)

regardless, that was several years ago and I'm not even sure why i still 
remember it but that's my two cents.

as far as H'burg being a cultural/musical blackhole, it seems to stem 
from the fact that there really aren't many places to play in Hburg.  

The only club [that i know of] is JM's and that has several 
dissadvantages: it's 21+ and it's tiny.

I believe JMU has a larger concert hall but that traces back to the fact 
that JMU's concert committee never gets off its ass [sorry if i offend 
anyway]....seems like Hburg needs a medium size venue [500-2000 people]...

	......isn't there an old theatre in town???

alex crothers


Posted By: whb4@cornell.edu
Time/Date: 3:42 PM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: Everything trades/review > (sick, awesome, rockin', 'da shit, etc.)

I saw Everything open for Aquarium Rescue Unit in Ithaca a few weeks ago
and let me tell you they are AMAZING!!  They are excellent musicians, very
innovative, very rockin, groovin, and definetely funky.  One of their
songs, SO THIS, is so funky it hurts.  I am serious these guys are unknown
and AWESOME!!  They also have a really cool message in their lyrics.
Lastly, I got to chill with them and they are definetely REALLY Cool with a
capital C.  I got a tape of the show as well as ARU (who was also
incredible) and I would be Very interested in trading Everything tapes.
CHECK THEM OUT!! YEAAAAAAAH!

                                                Walt

Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
308 Eddy St.                                               TIJUANA CARAVAN
Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
607-256-0743        "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH


Posted By: whb4@cornell.edu
Time/Date: 4:01 PM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: Is Dave Enlightened?

I find myself asking that question because his poetry is so beautiful and
inspired.  He touches the heart of basically ANY listener who gives him a
chance.  I have single handedly turned on virtually all of my friends to
DMB and let me tell you it was not hard.  He has touched my life in such a
positive way!
Also, the whole band is full of simply AMAZING musicians.  It is almost to
good to be true.  Ahhh, the bittersweet sensation of a small band reaching
a MUCH larger crowd, but that is a good thing right?

"find some inspiration, its down deep inside of you...."
"seeing things from a better side than most can dream..."

                                                Walt

Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
308 Eddy St.                                               TIJUANA CARAVAN
Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
607-256-0743        "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 7:51 PM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: groooovyy.......

while listening to an ultra cosmic spacey Jimi Thing Blake ponders 
quiting school to see the California Phish/DMB dates...

anyway...listen to DMB 3/17/93 Floodzone Richmond, VA...it'll make you 
drop what you're doing, do bonghits, drink SS Oatmeal Stouts and enjoy 
life.  And the Jimi Thing w/ Doug laying down some Hammond might drive 
you nuts...

peace and flying monkeys,
Blake


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 9:55 PM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 290

first off, clare writes:
>
>this is the LAST call for people to send me anything they feel is relevant
>and necessary in the MINARETS.NET INTERVIEW / ARTICLE FILE.
>(gasp.. yes, i did actually use capitals.. i DO have a shift key.. [wink wink] )
does this mean that any and all future articles will not be put in the file
by you?  that would really suck, 'cuz i have this strange feeling we're
about to see a bunch come out in every imagineable publication.



and then later Walt Blackler writes:
>I saw Everything open for Aquarium Rescue Unit in Ithaca a few weeks ago
>and let me tell you they are AMAZING!!  They are excellent musicians, very
>innovative, very rockin, groovin, and definetely funky.  One of their
>songs, SO THIS, is so funky it hurts.  I am serious these guys are unknown
        ^^^^^^^
i don't know much about the full e: setlist, but are you sure you're
not thinking of soulfish?  if you are, then right on.  that song rocks
out.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
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Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 10:03 PM Tuesday, September 20, 1994
Subject: ricks meanie thingy...

i didn't mean i wasn't EVER going to accept another article..

it was just a cute little push on those hineys out their who are wanting to
send me an article or two.. i'm planning on a major revision and i thought they
might just want to have everything included.

GOD RICK!!
[pshaw]




********************************************************************************
  'even when i'm right with you i'm so far away i can try to get away but i've 
 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 2:07 AM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Everything in NC

{soulfish in the background}

                            (e:) notes
  
  I'm not sure of Jack Straw's policy on recording, but I do plan to get a
copy of the show at Ziggy's if nothing else.  I talked to the guys before and
after the show, and they were not only really nice, but thanked me several
times for interest in the band, and said that next time, I'd get a copy of
the show [ I won't forget my deck this time!!!] and anyone interested can get
a copy of the show[s] from me either in the form of a tree[ but I don't have
a DAT, nor do I know anyone around here that does, nor does Ziggy's , but
JS[?]  ] or I'll just make you a copy dep on demand.  

    I'll echo what Alex has said.  (e:) SIMPLY FUCKING ROCKS  Sorry, h'burg
is a "black hole of music" .  At least you've had cool bands in your
hometown.  I know of one band from Charlotte that is making it, ie Brother
Cain.  Winston-Salem, my hometown has produced such fantastic [ yeah right]
folks as the dB's [ great band, no future, jangle was dead when they got
good], Let's Active [ my first concert was their last in the US for the Asso.
of Retarded Citizens benefit at my high school's auditorium [2000]], and of
course the Drive-IN Studios.  Ziggy's does have great bands sometimes
but they also have bands like "the Archers of Loaf" or "Superchunk" [ sorry
if you like them, but I hated their show].  I will say this, once a year they
will advertise all over the state and get some kickass, dropkickin,
lipsmackin groovy band or two.  They got Counting Crows and Cracker before
either got too much airplay on eMpTyV. But there is nothing else to do nor
anywhere else to go, so Ziggy's can charge more now, and since I'm 20, the
absolute worst age in the world. ie I can go to a club here, but not in some
other states, and even if i can, i can't have much fun if the band sucks. 
Now if the band doesn't suck then I just stay sober, so i can remember the
awesome tunes.  Davidson's main claim to fame is soccer, and then maybe one
band called Electroluxe.  If anyone up Va way has heard them, i'm surprised.

But, for the most part, in other words, Winston sucks kiwifruit.

                            Obligatory DMB material

    Does an archive of tab exist and if not, should someone start keeping it? 
How bout either WWW page or gopher site? Our system here is private, ie you
can't even finger me to see if I'm here [ well, you could but it wouldn't be
pleasant for you or me  ;)  ] so I couldn't do that. Less than five
days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [till I go broke in 5 minutes of shopping for cd's]

    Sorry, but I actually like Ants on R2T, and it's actually one of my
fav's.  That might horrify some of you, but it's a good song for me.  It's
definitely not the Song that Jane Likes [ I liked it at first b/c it mentions
cards, and I love CARDS, especially spades, anyone need a fourth?], or
Satellite [ my hard drive is named Satellite], or Seek Up [ chills come to
mind?], but it's still Dave and I say that a bad DMB song is better than some
bands best efforts, so hey....  Anyway, thanks for the bandwidth! Peace, and
may the Soulfish be with you! :^? -Will 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
             Go Heels!              Go Cats!            Go Braves!
"The boy pulls down his baseball cap and covers up his eyes."-NP in Analog Kid 
                             Shame on baseball!
       Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa)     iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 2:15 AM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Re: Everything in NC

Ziggy's kicks ass.
They had Skip Hop & Wobble (Jerry Douglas, Russ Barrenberg & Edgar Meyer) 
play on 3-24-94.
what more could you ask for.
d



I'll worry when tomorrow comes.


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 4:12 AM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 290

>>I saw Everything open for Aquarium Rescue Unit in Ithaca a few weeks ago
>>and let me tell you they are AMAZING!!  They are excellent musicians, very
>>innovative, very rockin, groovin, and definetely funky.  One of their
>>songs, SO THIS, is so funky it hurts.  I am serious these guys are unknown
>        ^^^^^^^
>i don't know much about the full e: setlist, but are you sure you're
>not thinking of soulfish?  if you are, then right on.  that song rocks
>out.

At a music festival at Lake Matoaka at william & mary this past spring, e:
did soulfish with 3-4 people from boy o boy/fighting gravity, dave, leroi,
and boyd (i think boyd was up there), some people from eddie from ohio, gibb
droll, & that was amazing..  didn't take the time out to count, but there
must've been 15 musicians or so up there all getting into it all jamming away
forever.  it was a ritz power jam/wasabi-type get together of all VA bands
that was incredible.

brett

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
I have one great fear in my heart, that one day when they [the whites of
South Africa] have turned to loving, they will find we [the blacks] are
turned to hating.        - Alan Paton, "Cry, The Beloved Country", 1948


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 8:59 AM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: RTT

I just bought Remember Two Things and I just wanted to say that
it's terrific.  

Christmas song is last on the cd and listed as 10:53 on my cd player at work.
I was listening along, thinking the song was over when suddenly I heard a 
clap of thunder and then the sound of frogs and crickets, much like after a 
storm on a summer night.  

This was so unexpected and wonderful :-)  DMB puts me in a very
comtemplative mood and this little bit of nature was the perfect way to
end the cd, for me.  Anyway, forgive my ramblings. 


klong

Information is not Knowledge, Knowledge is not Wisdom, Wisdom is not Truth,

		K.A. Long		NYSERNet, Inc.
		Internet:		klong@nysernet.org
		WWW:			http://nysernet.org/klong

Truth is not Beauty, Beauty is not Love, Love is not Music, Music is The Best!


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:02 AM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Minarets Home Page and FTP site

> How bout either WWW page or gopher site? Our system here is private, ie you
> can't even finger me to see if I'm here [ well, you could but it wouldn't be
> pleasant for you or me  ;)  ] so I couldn't do that. Less than five
> days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [till I go broke in 5 minutes of shopping for cd's]

there has been alot of discussion lately about getting an FTP site and 
Web Home Page for minarets, so i'll go ahead and address that now--both 
are in the works.  Currently minarets is undergoing some significant 
changes that will ultimately place most[all?] of its resources on 
phish.net's computer at Brown University.  Once permanetly located here, 
minarets will contain a home page on the World Wide Web 
[http://archive.phish.net/DMB] and a FTP site [archive.phish.net].  The 
mailing list will most likely be run from this computer too.  

If anyone wants to talk to me about this or has anything to add, please 
contact me [jcrother@moose.uvm.edu]

I'd also like to thank Ben Tanen and Lee Silverman publicly for their help.

maybe we can start generating some ideas of what should be included at 
the ftp site and on the home page....

alex crothers


Posted By: lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
Time/Date: 2:23 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: glee

hello

  I've been lurking and poking on Minarets for some time, slowly acqiring
tapes etc. having never seen the band live. Now I find I get my chance in
December! Hooray! All I know about are the dates with Phish; does anyone
know if DMB plans to (gasp) tour the West, as well? I know I'll need more
than an opening set to satisfy my soul. Thanks.
 (Plus the new CD, plus two trees... yippee.)
 
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< Joe & Laura ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <><


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 4:49 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Dog's Eye View

Oh so much to say, (some DMB some DMB-free)

First, I saw Tori Amos last night (great show) and the opening guy was
named peter stuart.  He was selling tapes of him and his band "dogs eye
view" for $5 so I picked one up.  I was really impressed by both his stage
presence and songs, and his band.  My question - does anyone know any more
about this band.  I think they are from N.Y.?

Secondly - the 27th will be a banner day at most record stores.  There was
a full page add in the Westword (Colorado's music/events rag) for a
midnight madness deal - and they put big pictures of Big Head Todd's album
and UTTAD.  I just thought that was cool.  Other albums to pick up on that
day :
 Lyle Lovett (I talked with Dave about Lyle once at Red Rocks, he
seems to like the song 'If I Had A Boat'.  Wouldn't that or LA County make
good DMB covers?)
 REM (I must say I'm really impressed by what I'm hearing on the radio)
 God Street Wine (yeah, their first major label release)
 Big Head Todd (some tracks recorded live without an audience in the
Boulder Theater - so it shouldn't sound as polished as Sister Sweetly)
 
Thirdly, lastly, least importantly, a personal experience:
Monday morning the alarm went off,
Monday morning I hit snooze,
The radio came alive again 9 minutes later,
I killed it with another snooze 9 seconds later,
Next thing I remeber - "...lifetimes pass you by.  What would you say?" end
of the song - I would say "never hit that second snooze - or you might miss
something.

goodbye-ly (sorry this is quite long and rambling - but I'm knee deep in
procrastination from homework...)
Jason


Posted By: whb4@cornell.edu
Time/Date: 5:15 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: DMB & Everything Soulfish jam tape...

>>i don't know much about the full e: setlist, but are you sure you're
>>not thinking of soulfish?  if you are, then right on.  that song rocks
>>out.
>
>At a music festival at Lake Matoaka at william & mary this past spring, e:
>did soulfish with 3-4 people from boy o boy/fighting gravity, dave, leroi,
>and boyd (i think boyd was up there), some people from eddie from ohio, gibb
>droll, & that was amazing..  didn't take the time out to count, but there
>must've been 15 musicians or so up there all getting into it all jamming away
>forever.  it was a ritz power jam/wasabi-type get together of all VA bands
>that was incredible.
>
>brett
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu

The song was clearly Soulfish since all you homeys are "in the know"!!  If
anyone has a tape of the above mentioned band, ANYONE, please let me know.
I think that it could be the pinnacle of my music collection. I have cool
stuff to trade, even things that aren't even suppossed to exist on tape...

                                                Walt

Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
308 Eddy St.                                               TIJUANA CARAVAN
Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
607-256-0743        "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:21 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: tape grovel/ 2 cents.....

hey whats up....

i was looking for anyone that has some big head todd they would like to trade
for some dave or widespread.... i reallly would like some big head todd or a
version of #34 for that matter..... contact me we can talk trade.

also my two cents on ants marching...... first i love the song. I hate the
little single drum intro but the drum intro on 2/22/94 at trax is pretty cool.
i also like the little part dave and stefan do the descending funky kinda
thing. i think we all have a favorite intro but we can't expect dave to put
dueling banjos or sweet home alabama on his first big release. that would
certainly limit his audience..... iwouldn't want my first BIG release to be
associated(sp) with sweet home or dueling banjos i would want it to be my
own....but anyway....
looking for bht and a copy of #34.....

rich

    "Today, for the first time, have I become aware that, from my earliest
years, I have accepted a multitude of false opinions as true, and that what
I have based on principles so ill-assured cannot be otherwise than extremely
doubtful."
          -descartes


Posted By: whb4@cornell.edu
Time/Date: 5:38 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Everything/DMB Jam not Band!

I meant jam not band in that last message.  Also, here is my corrected
signature.

                                                Walt

Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
409 Dryden #1                                               TIJUANA CARAVAN
Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
607-272-8037        "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-10.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 7:19 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Album release shows

        Any of you out of towners planning to be at the shows monday and
teusday night who need a place to stay, I'll house the first 5 or six that
contact me.

John


Posted By: mxgall@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 7:36 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Mystery Tapes...

    I was wondering if anyone could help me out with some missing
dates...both have Peter on keys, and are (?) Trax shows...

--------------------------------------------------------------
1)Dave opens with a couple of solo tunes, "This is kind of new, so
expecting words would be a little much, but I'll do my best to make
some...<Seek Up>"  Then plays one with "no words" called Smelly
Shoes, <Drive In, Drive Out>...

Seek Up/Smelly Shoes/Lie In Our Graves/Dancing Nancies/One Sweet
World/Song That Jane Likes/All Along the Watchtower/Lover Lay
Down/Two Step/Minarets/Blue Water/So Much To Say/Satellite/Tripping
Billies
-------------------------------------------------------------
2)Dave opens solo again...sings "Sometimes I feel like a nut,
sometimes I don't, Almond Joy..." before going into Two Step.
There's also a lengthy 2001-intro to Ants.

Haiku Warriors (?)/Minarets/Best of What's Around/Typical
Situation/All Along the Watchtower/I'll Back You Up/Two
Step/Granny/Jimi Thing/Ants Marching/So Much To Say/One Sweet World

Recently/Rhyme and Reason/Dancing Nancies/Number 34/Minarets/Blue
Water/Warehouse/Tripping Billies
______________________________________________________________

    Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!  Thanks!

                                                    --Mike


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:31 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: ants marching, 2-22

the drum solo/jam to ants on feb 22 was probably one of the best dave
experiences i've ever had.  it's almost (if not almost, then more)
funky than #36 and just rocks to all hell.

in fact, i think that's the best dave show i've seen to date.  if
they had just played warehouse instead of granny during that second
set, there would be absolutely no topping it.

actually, there is a better drum solo/jam.  if any of you get the 
chance, check out the encore to dmb/phish, 4-21 in winston-salem.
fishman and carter jam together on a single drum set, then carter
slides off onto his own set, they jam together like no man knows, 
then both complete bands work their way into the jam which melts
into a rippin' watchtower.
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:48 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Re: Mystery Tapes...

On Wed, 21 Sep 1994, Gallan Michael wrote:

>     I was wondering if anyone could help me out with some missing
> dates...both have Peter on keys, and are (?) Trax shows...
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> 1)Dave opens with a couple of solo tunes, "This is kind of new, so
> expecting words would be a little much, but I'll do my best to make
> some...<Seek Up>"  Then plays one with "no words" called Smelly
> Shoes, <Drive In, Drive Out>...
> 
> Seek Up/Smelly Shoes/Lie In Our Graves/Dancing Nancies/One Sweet
> World/Song That Jane Likes/All Along the Watchtower/Lover Lay
> Down/Two Step/Minarets/Blue Water/So Much To Say/Satellite/Tripping
> Billies

This sounds a lot like 7/8/92 from (I think) the Floodzone.

I have Seek Up, Drive In Drive Out (debut), Nancies, Jane, Watchtower, 
Two-Step, Minarets > Blue Water, So Much To Say, Satellite, Tripping Billies

This tape was labeled in the infancy of my DMB fandom so there are bound 
to be mistakes.

> 
>     Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!  Thanks!
> 
>                                                     --Mike
> 

So, who can offer the definitive answer to this?

--Ben


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 10:55 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Random Dave

"These guys blow my fucking mind."

-dave on the band after a time away from them..


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 11:08 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: need resources

can someone please send me the moast complete and most recent DMB chords 
file (ben isn't this your department?)

I mean ASAP.


Interesting news coming tomorrow.

--Ben


Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 11:09 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Dave Matthews Promo Ad

This morning I went a bee boppin down to the store to see if by any 
stretch of my wild imagination they had the new DMB CD.  I live in 
Duluth, Minnesota, hardly the hot spot for music.  Only by pure chance 
did my friend spot r2t at a Best Buy, lodged in the Ian Matthews 
section.  Well, go to this store to see if they would get the new one and 
when.  When I got to the counter I saw 2 DMB sticker and 2 brouchers!  I 
just about shit!  Has anyone else seen this broucher about the band?  It 
says "The band people are talking about." on the cover and is a big b/w 
close up of Dave's face.  It's 6 pages long and has pictures of all the 
band members inside (it looks like they may have computer scanned the 
inside cover pictures of r2t).  Along with the pictures are quotes from 
varoius papers and people about how cool the band is, then on the last 
page it gives a bio about how the band got together and what they are 
like etc.  It tells about the other CD's and the upcoming one due out 
soon.  If there is enough demand I can type out to the net exactly what 
the pages say.  I was just wondering if this was something that others 
have seen or not.  Let me know what you all think, it's pretty cool!

By the way, I didn't find the new CD, nor had anyone workind there ever 
heard of the band.  I'll just have to wait.  Hopefully I can find it 
soon!  It will be mine.

John Pederson


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-10.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:20 PM Wednesday, September 21, 1994
Subject: Re: ants marching, 2-22

Speaking of the 2-22 show, this was my birthday,
so I'd like a copy P-)  Anyone out there willing to
make one for me, if I provide tapes?

John


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 12:19 AM Thursday, September 22, 1994
Subject: re: when is X playing here?

I have a suggestion for the list admins..  lately, there have been an awful
lot of requests here and there and everywhere to the effect of 'when is
dmb/bt/whomever playing near me?'.  I assume these mainly come from more-or-
less newcomers, who either don't have the right info at their feet and are a
bit too new (or lazy) to be able to look it up for themselves.

I think that along with the introductory message to new subscribers, a recent
copy of the upcoming dates file should be included too, if not already.

Also, I think this was brought up before the summer, and this has happened
recently on the bt net with their new album, & I'm sure it will on dmb soon,
but is anyone sending letters to the people who are a bit mis-informed about
the nets?  (ie - Hey guys, I love your new album.  Please put me on your
mailing list as... and when are you coming to New Zealand??)  It would be
nice to nicely tell these people (& the ones who try to subscribe to the main
list) what the real story is...

these nets are some of the most beautiful things to cross this highway.

brett

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
I have one great fear in my heart, that one day when they [the whites of
South Africa] have turned to loving, they will find we [the blacks] are
turned to hating.        - Alan Paton, "Cry, The Beloved Country", 1948


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 12:37 PM Thursday, September 22, 1994
Subject: re: when is X playing here?

> I think that along with the introductory message to new subscribers, a recent
> copy of the upcoming dates file should be included too, if not already.

good idea, however, it would require continually updating the welcome 
message everytime a new date was added...rather what i've been doing is 
sending all the tour dates to anyone who poses such a question.

> Also, I think this was brought up before the summer, and this has happened
> recently on the bt net with their new album, & I'm sure it will on dmb soon,
> but is anyone sending letters to the people who are a bit mis-informed about
> the nets?  (ie - Hey guys, I love your new album.  Please put me on your
> mailing list as... and when are you coming to New Zealand??)  It would be
> nice to nicely tell these people (& the ones who try to subscribe to the main
> list) what the real story is...

i try to take care of some of these but i don't always have the time, 
energy or patience to inform everyone...hopefully the welcome message and 
FAQ are doing their jobs....

alex crothers


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 1:00 PM Thursday, September 22, 1994
Subject: Cheese Music Survey

As many of you know who get the BT letters, there has been a topic on music
to cheese by.  Best Part was nominated by some BT fans.  I want to do a
survey for a week to see what is in fact the best cheese music. Send me
PERSONAL email with your fav's rated on 1-10  where 1 is "bad idea" and 10
can be a "home run" shall we say... and I'll compile the relative
probabilities of an enjoyable cheese with given music.  I'll run this for
about a week after which I'll send in a compiled list to the samples,
minarets, bt, and horde lists.

Hope you have fun, and I'm ready.  

REMINDER: SEND PERSONAL EMAIL ONLY!!!!  I don't want to flood the net with
this stuff. Also, "Mr. Chairman, I move that any and all Harry Connick, Jr.
be removed from consideration"  Just kidding, this can be anything you like
to cheese to.  I didn't say hook up to, whatever that means in colloquial
English, but whatever you think makes men or women melt in your hands.  IE:
What tugs at the heart strings?

Here's an example from BT: "If Cyrano de Bergerac [sp?]/ fell prey to the
blades of 50 men/ His heart and soul would drive them back/ for the chance to
see Roxanne's eyes light up the sky again." from Sweet Pain on_Travelers & 
Thieves_.   

Or

Best Part, or others.  

PERSONAL EMAIL ONLY

Look forward to reading your responses. And any band is fair game.

Do me a favor if you will and mark your replies in the subject header somehow
indicating that this is a repsonse to the survey. thanks peace, and may the
soulfish be with you.-Will
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
             Go Heels!              Go Cats!            Go Braves!
"I hear music from your window, but you're not at home. You're a thousand miles
  	   away from here, and that's too far to phone." -The Samples
      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa)     iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:23 PM Thursday, September 22, 1994
Subject: Re: shows with no names

the 2 shows mike was looking for names for are 1-19-93 and 3-23-93 (peter's
last show)
the 2001-->ants is 3-23
llater, kerry


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 7:49 PM Thursday, September 22, 1994
Subject: 3.5 Points and an unusual amount of cynicism

Point 1:

Like a bad disease, it appears another few CDs are coming out on Dave
Matthews Typical Tuesday (ugh)... the most notable of which would be God
Street Wine, a band I personally can not stand ('hey, lets sing about *BABES*
and play boring songs underneath!'), but who are a gosh-darn clove-smokin
tree-huggin hippie tye-die-up-the-ass band and I'm sure there are at least 3
or 4 (or 20?) crossover fans out there who this interests. Oh, wait, you
probably already knew. Oh well.

Point 2:

Someone posted on Phish.net about a pretty cool record store up here in NYC
called Venus Records on the
formerly-cool-but-now-just-corporate-hell-wanna-be-punk-place-replete-with-its
-own-Gap St. Marks Place that had and was selling the new cd.
Well, after a few moments of happiness I decided, darn it, who cares, the CD
is coming out on Tuesday.  This is interesting because the guy posting was
talking about how he got the new GSW disc (as prev. stated coming out the
27th too), and my friend got the new BT album a week before it came out at
the same store.

Point 3:

Go out and get the new Liz Phair CD.

Oh, and keep the transcriptions coming.  The next mailing will have some new
ones, but we aren't all the way there yet (major hints thrown at the knight
in shining beer).

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: Derwp@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:01 PM Thursday, September 22, 1994
Subject: dmb

what's up with the dmb.  will dave be in Portland soon?


Posted By: MAVELASQ@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:52 PM Thursday, September 22, 1994
Subject: subscribe

subscribe <minarets@moose.uvm.edu> <mavelasq@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:13 AM Friday, September 23, 1994
Subject: Looking: Knoxville, say goodbye [spring]

i don't know the exact date, but it was sometime this spring that Dave 
played in Knoxville.....

	.....if anyone out there was at that show or even better, can get 
a tape of it...
			please contact me.....

the only detail i know of the show is that it contained a tremendous say 
goodbye....

		.....i'll offer a 2>1 trade or green nugs or phish/dmb/wsp/
						dead/grisman/allmans photo

.........i'd really like to get ahold of this tape...

alex crothers


Posted By: jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:05 PM Friday, September 23, 1994
Subject: UTTAD Update (9/23/94 article)

Today's Marquee (an insert in Charlottesville, VA's Daily
Progress, referred to locally as The Regress) has dave singing
and playing on front, and an article (p3 contd on p19) called
"Dave Matthews Band is no longer `Dreaming'." Author = Mary Alice
Blackwell. (is she on this net?)

I'll transcribe it this evening (have to go teach a class now),
but here are some highlights:

The launch party will be at Crossroads _and_ Max (this is on
recent flyers as well)
Tickets for the Crossroads portion sold out in four hours.
Lauch party attendees will receive the CD insert at the door to
have signed and will get the actual CD at midnight (four
locations).
Includes discussions with Boyd and Dave.
Calls _Remember Two Things_  "RTT" instead of "R2T" :(
RTT/R2T/whatever has sold over 100,000 copies.
>From Good Homes will open the amphitheatre show.
Regarding first show (at Eastern Standard in 1991), Dave says,
"The guy who had the idea for us to play there got the shaft."
Anyone know who that was, or how it was that he got shafted?
(Pete? someone else?)
UTTAD produced by Steve Lillywhite, who produced albums for U2
and Peter Gabriel.
Only repeats from R2T are Satellite and Ants, and they're studio
versions (vs. R2T's live versions.)
Also incudes BOWA and 34.
Limited tickets for Lauch Party still available; call Plan 9 at
(804) 979-9999 or the band's management's ticket phone charge
number, 1-800-594-TIXX.
For info on amphitheatre show, call 594-8499.

Cya
Ellis

-- 
Ellis * jeg5s@virginia.edu * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
      "Sophisticated technology makes the superstitious
       and irrational seem reasonable."--Abbie Hoffman
-- Graduate student, UVA Dept. of Sociology
-- Administrator for rec.music.phish FAQ File
       Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Friday, September 23, 1994
Subject: RR/DMB dates

Are Rusted Root and DMB touring in November together?  Is there an
updated list of dates available?  I saw a Rusted Root schedule that
listed some November dates and it indicated they would be with RR.
I'm particularly interested in the listings for Missouri during
that time frame (if there are any).

klong


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 2:39 PM Friday, September 23, 1994
Subject: faqs, lyrics, and random comments...

first of all, to anyone and everyone on the original lyrics mailing list,
i lied.  there will be one more mailing, as the lyrics file has metamorphosed
into something beautiful and flittery (like a butterfly;).  actually, 
i've just split it up into 3 parts, including the lyrics to uttad, as
published.  expect to see it on monday, just in time to go pick up the
cd.  this is also going to people who have recently requested the file.


second of all, the faq is currently in bad shape, so if your waiting for
that as well, be patient.  i'm trying to make it look like remember two
things isn't due out in about a month (which is the way it's been
reading for quite some time).  problem being is that i have two jobs,
15 hours of classes, and i'm a manager at the campus station, so in
an effort to free up some more space in my brain, i deleted the term
"free-time" from my vocabulary so that i wouldn't have to worry about
it.

third of all, on that tape where drive in, drive out was debuted, dave
actually calls it 'smelly shoes.'  that's one of those shows that could
readily be id'd by dave talk if we got a setlist file going.


that's all.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 3:51 PM Friday, September 23, 1994
Subject: best of 94 on tape (at least the shows I've been to)

In preparing the setlist file and listening to the 94 tapes, I decided to 
compile this list in hopes of creating some discusion on here.  I also 
thought that with school having just started again, alot of newbies on 
here may not have ANY idea what some of the hot recent shows are.  So 
here goes...

I'm only listing shows I was at and taped myself...but by all means, 
review some of your own.

2/10/94 Ziggys Winston-Salem NC I,II

        a really hot show in an ice storm.  Ziggys is a great place, 
kinda like a small Floodzone with cooler people.  First and Second set 
open up with Seek Up and Jimi the respectivly.  'nuff said...

2/22/94 TRAX Charlotesville VA II

        I think Rick has just said this...but this is one of the hottest 
sets of the year.  Halloween was positively FRIGHTNING...

2/24/94 Floodzone Richmond VA II

        sound problems marred an otherwise solid first set.  Hundreds of 
people were outside begging for tickets...I actually saw a couple of 
people crying.  Good jams.

2/25/95 Sweetbrier College, Lynchburg VA I,II

        strong song selection and loose jamming coupled with the fact 
that this was a girls school made this an enjoyable show.  Second set 
rocked.  Pay For What You Get, So Much to Say, EXODUS!!!  Did I mention 
$1 16 oz. beers?  Get this one for the strange noises that Dave makes 
between songs...they scare my cat.  LITTLE BABY!

2/26/94 The Bayou, Washington DC II

        probably the worst first set I've ever witnessed, also the 
shortest.  awesome jams in the second set though.  Lie in our Graves is 
of particular interest...leroi and carter jam around groovily...

4/20/94 Virginia Horse Center, Lexinton VA Phish set II

        Dave's opening set was kinda normal...but Leroi's lead into 
Somewhere Over the Rainbow during Phish's set was inspired.  It brought 
back good memories of this night when I saw Phish jam it again this 
summer in Maine.

4/21/94  LJVM Colisium, Winston-Salem NC Phish encore

         after a cool loose jam Phish and DMB do Watchtower.  My jaw 
dropped...get this set just for the drum duet between Jon Fishman and 
Carter.

4/24/94 Van Ripers Music Festival, Nelson Co. VA I

        good One Sweet World and Say Goodbye...Leroi jammed with Col. 
Bruce (his last show with ARU) and it made their set interesting.

4/26/94 Towne Point Park, Norfolk VA I,II

        good free show....horrible sound system and windy though.  
Awesome Tripping Billies (don't catch me saying that too often...)

8/13/94 Strawberry Banks, Hampton VA I,II

         Great show from start to finish...Two Step->Best of What's 
Around in the first set and Nature->Recently (with both the some people 
intro and pretty pretty girl outro) in the second made this show a 
winner.  And they didn't do Ants!!!  Say Goodbye with Leroi on flute...

8/24/94 Classic Ampitheater, Richmond VA one set

        Warren Hayes sat in for Jimi Thing and Warehouse.  The loosest 
Jimi I've seen this year.  Boyd plays some Baboon Farm psychedelic 
delay shit that blew me away.


well..that's it.  I would have added the Dave and Tim shows at the 
Birchmere if they had allowed taping.  Tapes of these shows do exist, 
although I believe that the one in circulation is an audiance.      

feel free to phlame me personally and please add those shows that you 
feel are hot.

taking a drink, sitting back and relaxing, and smoking my mind (hell, 
it's Friday!)
Blake


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:09 PM Friday, September 23, 1994
Subject: it's good to know that we're loved.

well, so much for that influx of newbies that we were expecting to get
from the latest newletter.  they mispelled the address.  

we are the proud members of "minaret.net"


yippee....



____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 6:06 PM Friday, September 23, 1994
Subject: Ben has UTTAD and is GLAD

Ugh, what a crapo subject.  But it says it all.

I'd have to say I like it.  I'm not in love with it, but I wasn't in love
with the six song demo (thank you Ben #2) at first either.  There are a few
changes to songs, some for the worse.  I won't get into them, especially
since I know you crazy fuckers in Virginia will have so much to say (gawd i
kill myself with those) about YOUR band (no, he can't be my band too, hmm?
bastards! you bastards!).

satellite is too slow.
and ants is horrible.
there, i said it.


benjamino, who needs a new quote because lawdy lawd, #36 is getting tired.

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: khg@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Time/Date: 12:22 PM Saturday, September 24, 1994
Subject: Subscribe

Please Subscribe me & if any tour info or hotline is available could you 
also forward that info. Thanx - Kevin


Posted By: cag6u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:11 PM Saturday, September 24, 1994
Subject: need tickets!

Howdy,
I was wondering if anyone had extra tickets to the uva show on
tuesday or the richmond (flood zone) on wed.  If so, please let
me now, i'd love to go to these shows.  I was also wondering if
anyone would be taping these shows.  If i can't get to see the
shows, i'd love copies of them.  i have some good shows to trade
for so please let me know....thanks, chad.
cag6u@virginia.edu
later.


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 5:07 PM Saturday, September 24, 1994
Subject: Re: dave matthews band (uttad)

>Under The Table & Dreaming - Best Of Whats Around, What Would You Say (w/
>Popper), Satellite, Rhyme & Reason, Typical Situation, Dancing Nancies,
>Ants Marching, Lover Lay Down, Jimithing, Warehouse, Pay For What You
>Get, #34

speaking of wwys with popper, does popper have his own solo along with
everyone else in the song?  (for those non-initiated bt'ers, wwys is like
crashburn.. each member solos, only it's the same solo more or less)

i think the two bands should combine wwys and crashburn.. that would be an
incredible jam.  that'd be at least 7 different instruments doing the same
solo.  wicked stuff, man.

brett

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
i can hear your barefeet on the kitchen floor..  and i don't have to have
these dreams no more..   i've found someone who can pull me tight.. and
hold the insomniac all night.       - Billy Pilgrim


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:09 PM Saturday, September 24, 1994
Subject: Re: dave matthews band (uttad)

Brett Kingswell <bmking@mail.wm.edu> inquires:

>speaking of wwys with popper, does popper have his own solo along with
>everyone else in the song?  (for those non-initiated bt'ers, wwys is like
>crashburn.. each member solos, only it's the same solo more or less)

The CD WWYS is totally deranged... the song is MUCH shorter (I think it's
3:50 maybe that's a different song).  Anyway, the basic structure for the
verse/chorus is the same, but once it gets to solos they cut the jam WAY off
(dave doesn't even sing those impossible to understand semi-lyrics) and
basically have a little sax jam, then a 16 bar or thereabouts Popper solo.
 Popper also has a bit at the beginning.

Overall not a superb use of his talents, but once you're used to the new
'structure' (hopefully they'll only use it for the CD and still jam live)
it's actually a bit better as far as studio concerns go...

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

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Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:47 PM Saturday, September 24, 1994
Subject: everything can't be THAT good (...can they?)

Okay okay okay I GIVE UP YOU BASTARDS!!  I've heard too much good stuff about
this band called everything or e: or (e:) or whatever other cute names you
drunk southerners come up with for them.  I give up.

I want a tape or two or 4 of everything.

So.

If anyone out there wants to enlighten a New Yorker (see? that's why i'm so
abrasive) about the wonder that is everything, I would be extremely elated.
 I have about 20-25 hours of Dave, an obscene amount of Phish, as well as
odds and ends of Spin Doctors, Pearl Jam, Living Colour, the authority,
hatters, GSW (these are the two tapes I base my hatred of them off of, so I
guess they might not be so good, hmmm?)....



I stick my tongue out at you all,
Ben #2 (fine tanen, you win)


just another memo from the cellar,

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*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
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