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Posted By: kartzman@sas.upenn.edu
Time/Date: 2:20 PM Sunday, September 25, 1994
Subject: U. Penn DMB Fans

	I figured I'd post this to minarets for anyone who listend to DMB 
from the Philadelphia area.

>			Penn Tapers Alliance
>
> Do you listen to Phish? The Dead? Dave Matthews Band? The Allman Brothers 
> Band?  The Hatters?  Widespread Panic?  Big Head Todd?  Well, read on.
> 
> I'm writing to inform you that the first meeting of the Penn  
> Tapers/Traders Alliance will be held on Wednesday, Sept. 28, at 9pm in 
> the Smith-Penniman Room on the second floor of Houston Hall.
> 
> I'm sending this letter to you because I either know you, or know you 
> listen to good music.  It's about time that all the people with good 
> tapes on this campus got together to meet and trade.  I hope you can make 
> it on Wed- it won't take up too much of your time.  Our inaugural meeting 
> will be an organizational session, and we'll find out what people 
> have, what people want, and possibly exchange some tapelists, so bring a 
> copy of yours if you've got one.  When the group gets going in full swing, 
> we'll also hope to be ordering blank tapes in bulk, undercutting the 
> prices of Terrapin Tapes, the Advantage Co., and your favorite music store.
> We're also going to make people aware of the shows coming to town, and 
> someone may even have an extra for you.
> 
> We are trying to encourage trading and discourage grovelling, but anyone 
> who is into the music is welcome to show up.  We don't guarantee 
> anything, and if you don't want everyone to have a copy of your list, you 
> don't have to give it out.  We just think this is a worthwhile forum to 
> get those tapes you might have been looking for for a long time.
> 
> Please forward this to anyone you know who might be interested in 
> coming.  If you have any questions, you can email me at the address 
> below, or call me at 417-5794, or you can contact Jeremy Zweig at 
> jzweig@sas or call him at 243-0754.  Hope to see you on Wednesday.  Enjoy 
> your weekend.
>   						  Ted Kartzman
> 
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Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 2:23 PM Sunday, September 25, 1994
Subject: looking back, and looking forward

Hi everyone.

I'm in a kind of pensive mood today about the Dave Matthews Band.  Monday,
September 26, 1994 is the last day of an era for the band and all its
fans, it seems to me, and thus it's also a time for reflection and
anticipation. 

Now I know some of you folks in the Virginia area have been following the 
band for considerably longer than I have.  And perhaps, you all are 
feeling even more strange about the imminent release of the band's major 
label debut than I am.  

I hope everyone has a good day on Monday.  Stop whatever you're doing at
11 pm, go out to your local record store, and buy the album.  I'm sure
some of you will be at the Dave and friends show.  If you're not at the
show or in the Southern or Western Virginia area, you're probably going to 
have to fight
off all the Big Head Todd, God Street Wine, and REM fans in order to even
get a copy of Under The Table And Dreaming tomorrow night.  It'll be a
small price to pay though, because all around the country, and maybe even
in some other countries too, other fans of the band will be going through
exactly the same things-- Stipe-heads in the line in front of the store,
store clerks who give you a weird look when you ask for the album, and so
on.  We're all going to be out there doing it too.

Well, I've said my fill.  Enjoy (especially 'Best'-- it's intense!).

Bye for now,

Ben

P.S.: If anyone else is going to be at Tower Records Cambridge MA, drop 
me some mail and we can meet up.


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:43 PM Sunday, September 25, 1994
Subject: KMSMITH@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU quota...

Open letter to KMSMITH-

it appears I've blown up your account sending out the chords file.  if you
want the second part, get in touch as to when it is possible to send my
harmless little file without exploding anything else...

benjamino

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: CONJURAEM@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 5:58 PM Sunday, September 25, 1994
Subject: chords file

Can whomever is in charge of the chords file, please forward a copy to me...
Thanks,
emily
conjuraem@urvax.urich.edu


Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 6:15 PM Sunday, September 25, 1994
Subject: Re: smelly shoes

> third of all, on that tape where drive in, drive out was debuted, dave
> actually calls it 'smelly shoes.'  that's one of those shows that could
> readily be id'd by dave talk if we got a setlist file going.
> 
smelly shoes---7-8-92 trax

--kerry
                The devious gelatin holding me fast
                Miraculous now, you let me ooze past


Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 8:26 PM Sunday, September 25, 1994
Subject: Re: chords file

Chords file?  Yay.  I'll follow this little thread and let everybody know 
that I too would LOVE a copy of the DMB Chords file, wherever it is!  
Please send me a copy of the file!


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:14 AM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: A SHOW A LONG TIME AGO

Greetings all, this is a very absurd request and I know it...

I am looking for a show.  It was December of 1992 at the
Bayou in Washington DC.  It was right around Christmas, i think
right after it.  The reason I am looking for this show is that
I'm mentioned in it--Dave says right before his last song (Blood
of Our Children--Xmas song) "Wade gave me a Christmas card tody,
so this goes out to him."  

I would LOVE to get a copy of this show.  This is the second set
(I grabbed the setlist that night)
Two Step, Desperate Hours, Satellite, Dancing Nancies, Lover Lay
Down, Granny, Spotlight, Jane, Minarets, Blue Water, What Would
You Say, Blood.

I would appreciate it if anyone would let me know about this, but
like I said, it's an absurd request and I know it...


Wade


Posted By: vader@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 10:27 AM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: Re: best of 94 on tape (at least the shows I've been to)

Do you or does anyone have DMB playing at Hammerjacks in Baltimore 
Maryland.  It was in late July.  It was a great show.  I'd be interested 
in getting a copy.

Vince

br />Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 10:57 AM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: UTTAD

well even up here in beautiful vermont with the leaves in peak foliage i 
heard on the radio, "And on September 27th be the first to own REM's new 
album, 'Monster.'  Also check out Big Head Todd's new album due out on 
the same date along with the Dave Matthews Band new release, 'Under the 
Table and Dream.'

surprising that Dave Matthews has promotion even up here in Burlington, 
VT were they've only played once.

not surprising that they mangled the title.....

alex crothers


Posted By: SLATCHERR@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:47 PM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: tape request

question- does anyone have a decent copy of the show this past summer at
the Bottle and Cork in Dewey Beach, De. ? It was a great show at a very
fun venue- kind of reminiscent of Dave's days back at the flood zone in
Richmond- no advance tickets needed, small place, etc.

also, if anyone has any DMB tapes from 1991 or 92 (esp. W/ the maker),
i will gladly be willing to put up a fair trade- I have about 15 hours
of dave on tape. please e-mail me personally if you want to respond to 
this request.

thanks,

rich


Posted By: BWhitman@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:22 PM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: American Music?

I seem to remember at HORDE a month ago a tune called 'American Music' (if my
lawn seat hearing wasn't that bad) - anyone hear of it - he said it was going
to be on the new album. It was a tune I'd never heard before. Anyone else go
to GSAC Horde and hear that tune? Am I that far off?

Brian Whitman
bwhitman@aol.com


Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 5:45 PM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: Blue Screen Show Playlist 9/26

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico and Ooodz, 2-3:30 Sunday Nights/Monday Mornings
89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago

9/26/94 (dedicated to Kerry)

Brazil Theme............Brazil Soundtrack
Dedication to Chico-->Low Rider (underneathe opening schpeil)....BT 5/13/94
Aragon Ballroom, Chicago
Cavern-->Wilson-->Cavern-->NICU..........Phish, 7/13/94 Big Birch, NY
#36..........................Dave Matthews Band  2/4/94 Athens Georgia
John Popper's Blue Screen Interpretation-->
Ivory Tusk...................Blues Traveler 12/31/93 New York City
Terrapin.....................Grateful Dead
Happiness is a Warm Gun......Beatles
Top O' the hour Staion ID by Greazy Fizeek-->
Manteca-->Caravans...........Phish 11/4/90 Fort Collins CO
Crazy........................The Other Half (Stuudio)
Punch You in The Eye.........Phish 5/14/94 San Diego
Big House Blues..............Ren & Stimpy

Tapes MAY be availible
Thanks for all the support and kind notes

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/ \

Brian

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Posted By: droush@sas.upenn.edu
Time/Date: 6:46 PM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: Philly TLA x-tras?

Hey there all-


The DMB show @ the TLA, October 1, is sold out.  Does anyone have a few 
extras?  I'm looking for three, but if you have _any_, I'm interested.  I 
live in Philly and will be able to meet you before the show.  Have 125 HQ 
hours of Phish/Dead/DMB to sweeten the deal as well....


I'll pay face, only, but with a couple of tapes(your choice) thrown in as 
thanks.


later, dave


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 7:33 PM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: More than one

Continuing in my somewhat annoying habit of discussing more than one 
thing in a post...

1. Could everyone trading tapes with me please drop me a line to inform 
me about their progress?

2. In case you southerners don't understand the scope of what's going on 
with DMB promotion, our local record store, Cutler's, has eight full 
sized posters up advertising UTTAD. They also have a listening station 
reserved for it as of tomorrow- they have about ten stations, usually 
reserved for the ten biggest releases of the last two months. Across one 
of the posters is a sign informing shoppers that they can catch the DMB 
at Toad's Place down the street on Oct. 3 !!! (exclamation theirs). I'm a 
little frightened by the whole thing.

3. How do you all feel about this? Personally, I was pretty excited for a 
while. Finally, the public gets a chance to hear a phenomenal band, and 
all my friends won't think I'm crazy for talking about some unknown band 
like they've thought for the past year and a half. Now, however, I'm 
having some reservations, brought about mostly by the nightmarish ticket 
sales for the Phish Halloween show- any other NE types deal with this as 
well? Is this going to happen to my favorite band? Maybe I'm being 
selfish- I don't know.

4. Can you Virginia people please do something about this Ollie North 
thing? :)

				-Adam
Sorry for that last bit. Couldn't help it.


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:40 PM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: Dave Merchandise

Well, while browsing the lovely merchandise catalog that came with UTTAD, 
I discovered a rare item that I found to be quite cool, a DAVE screen 
saver and sound byte disc!!!!! Whata deal for $10....obviously someone in 
merchandising is aware of us geeks here on the internet. Just kida blew 
my mind and I thought I'd toss in my 2 cents....Good luck to all at the 
stroke of midnight, I was fortunate enough to get it a few hours early...


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Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 10:45 PM Monday, September 26, 1994
Subject: Popularity, Halloween (no, not the dave one), etc.

yeah, i've always tried to be up for the band and positive and supportive and 
i'll continue to be but i couldn't get tickets for phish's halloween show, 
either, and well... frankly, i'm pretty bitter about the whole thing for both 
bands.  

dave matthews will be huge.  watch and, by the end of the year, i'd be really 
surprised if they didn't have the album on the billboard charts.  next spring,
mtv unplugged.  by next fall, cover of rolling stone.  you think i'm kidding? 
hahaha.  actually, i'm not.  i think it'll happen.  the only reason why it 
hasn't happened *that* big to phish is because they're still a bit too weird 
and there's still a lot of anti-phish sentiment out there (god knows why or 
where it came from) so skeptical people haven't caught on.  dave matthews is 
more along the lines of edie brickell, paul simon, 10,000 maniacs, that type 
of thing.  they're more accessible, basically, and people will flock to them. 
granted, it's all good quality music but certain things are starting to 
bother me.  

*) dave hasn't written anything new in a long, long time. 

*) phish did not cover themselves with glory when they released hoist.  it's 
not a bad album, but it's the least impressive album they've ever released 
(why are the songs so short?  where are the solos?  why does it contain "if i 
could", that richard marx cover?)  okay, phlame away but seriously, i've seen 
a depressing side of popularity lately.

*) dave is not varying the setlists enough.  this is a bad habit to get into. 
i'd be really, really pissed if phish weren't still playing soooo well live.  
dave is still good live but lacks the spontaneity and creativity he once had 
(just look at the random stuff on old tapes).  

i think one bad thing of popularity is that you sometimes get afraid to be as 
creative and unique as you can be.  this leads you to do things like cut down 
songs so that they'll fit in nice little radio chunks (ugh) and cut out solo 
sections (wwys, down with disease, julius, etc.).  where did blue water go?  
and boyd's wah-wah?  and the delay section that was known once as the baboon 
farm?  things are just getting too normal, too mainstream, not true to the 
things that originally pulled me towards the band.

comments?  flame personally, if you're going to, please.  i love phish & dmb -
- they're my 2 favorites.  however, i like them enough to see their 
respective faults, too.  let's talk about this a bit more but try to be 
analytical; no emotional "they sold out, they suck!" bits.  WHY do they suck, 
HOW have they sold out, WHAT don't you like about their new studio/live 
stuff?  constructive debates are productive.

take care,
reid

ps -- i'm from virginia and i can't explain the ollie thing.  it's 
depressing.  much more depressing than what i'm depressed about with phish/
dmb, certainly...


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:58 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Where's my post????

I posted 4 hours ago and it hasn't come back to me yet...
Hmmmm..
sorry to clutter everyones box with this, I just wanna see if somethin's 
sckrewy, if yaknow whattI mean....

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Posted By: BLBLALOC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:59 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: boyd has left the building.....

i just picked up the disc.....interesting.....one question....where is boyd?
i know some of you have reservations about his contributions to the band, but
it seems as if he was screwed out of his solos at every opportunity......


and ants is right up there with ollie north....
it's not too likely i'll vote for either. . . . .


brian.
    ______
the man in the moon is a musician -


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 2:32 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: just finished listening to the disk with brian.......

hey whats up people....
its late.

hey coupl of personal things about the disk.....
disappointed about the lack of boyd brian mentioned.
i am pleased though with the way they used the studio.....they defintely feel
the room with stuff...boyd little background stuff (and i mean background) and
leroi doing that whole blues/jazz playalong kinda stuff.
i also feel in a yyear tops they will be HUGE. I think also that Stefan will be 
looked to as a John Paul Jones jkinda bassist. he is great....people will be
able to play it but they will wonder where it came from....if you know what i
mean.....
thats all
thanks 

rich

p.s. anyone got big head todd tapes ;)

    "Today, for the first time, have I become aware that, from my earliest
years, I have accepted a multitude of false opinions as true, and that what
I have based on principles so ill-assured cannot be otherwise than extremely
doubtful."
          -descartes


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 8:49 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Shh! Don't tell anyone about DMB.

Hi.  My name is Ben, and I'm selfish.  I like going to relatively small 
clubs and seeing live music.  After the show, I like to personally thank 
the musicians (sometimes they're just hanging around) for a good show.  
Is this selfish of me?  Yes, and frankly I hate going to Madison Square 
Garden to see concerts-- that place is for NBA basketball.

All the sudden everyone seems to think that the Dave Matthews Band is 
going to be a big popular success.  You know what?  You're right.  
Congratulations on creating a monster.

"Me?," you say.  "What did I do."  You did exactly what you think you are 
supposed to do.  I did it too, for over a year.  I told everyone I 
thought would be interested, and a lot of people who weren't interested, 
all about this band from Virginia and they're really cool and you should 
listen to this tape or come with me to the concert blah blah blah.  I 
think I did this because I want other people to like what I like.

However, I have seen the error of my ways.  I take some small partial 
responsibility for the situation in which I will find myself next 
weekend-- lots of drunk New Englanders clamoring to scream "BOYD!" all 
night long at the Avalon.  YUCK!

>From now on, I will not hand things to people on a silver platter.  I saw 
this band because I went to see the Samples and there was this cool 
opening band.  Wow, they have a sax player and a violin player and they 
did Dylan's Watchtower (they were way better than the Samples, too!).  

Why am on a personal crusade to make myself miserable every time I go to 
see a band I like?

Obvious UTTAD content:
I was as expected the only one at Tower buying the album.  Free stickers.

Ants isn't TOO bad.  Dave plays with the words by coming in earlier than 
expected on "Take these . . ."  Interesting.  I'll hate the song again in 
a day or so I'm sure.

Pay For and Typical were both nice to hear.

#34 is kind of uninspired in my opinion.  Check the 3/7/93 version for a 
masterpiece.

I do not like Jimi at all.  They could do so much more.

------------------------------

I have class now.

Shh!  Get off the soapbox for once y'all and enjoy the music for yourself.

Bye for now,

Ben


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 9:43 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: DMB dates

Hullo?  Is there anyone out there?  I see posts in the digest but
no one responds to my questions.  Is the digest generated by some
AI machine with an inclination for humorous banter?  Hep me!  Puh-leeze!

Is DMB playing with Rusted Root in the month of October?  This would
be an awesome double bill that I wouldn't want to miss.  Thanks!

klong


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Posted By: shell@phish.net
Time/Date: 10:53 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB dates

On Sep 27,  9:45am, "K.A. Long" wrote:
> 
> Is DMB playing with Rusted Root in the month of October?  This would
> be an awesome double bill that I wouldn't want to miss.  Thanks!

I think they're playing together on October 7 in Pittsburgh at the
Palumbo Center.  It's a record release party for Rusted Root, I believe.
I'm not sure if they have any other dates together.


Shelly


Posted By: kadams@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:13 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: A Few Musings of my own

Now is the time when everyone's going to start complaining about how DMB 
will become big and untouchable and that we used to like when they played 
every Tuesday at Trax and that time when they played at Kappa Sig in a 
basement.  Well, sorry everyone, but those old times may be over.  Of 
course we are to blame (although I don't think blame is the right word).  
We all have to admit trying to get our less informed friends to listen to 
a few hissy bootlegs three years ago, convincing them that, "They really 
do have talent.  No, really, the acoustics in Zollman's pavillion are 
much better up front-you shouldn't have been outside drinkin' beer all 
night!"  Well, fame is good for some-it pays the bills.  Look, we'd be 
bummed if they fizzled out and some of us are bummed now.  Me, I'd like 
to think it's great what's happening to these guys.  They made it.  
 
A neat little tidbit of info (sorry Buford, I know you've heard this 
before) is that among the group of '93 W&L grads, there were a handfull 
of anti-Davers who were basically annoyed with all the DAVE DAVE DAVE 
hype.  In other words, they basically wouldn't give the music a try 
because the rest of us liked it so much.  Well, one friend of mine was a 
long time Green Day fan (since skateboarding days of highschool I think) 
and he and a friend got them to play at Zollman's pavillion in '93 
(January I think).  Granted, they aren't the usual Virginia music scene, 
but there were a handfull of fans there (most a group of guys from 
Baltimore that somehow heard about the show) and then a bunch of people 
who had nothing better to do on a random Thursday night.  It was fun 
except for the beer cans chucked toward the stage and the fact that 
Billie Joe (pink hair in full effect) and the boys o Green were afraid to 
play their rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama" for fear of getting the crap 
kicked out of them by ungrateful southerners.  Anyway, these same really 
nice guys that hung out in Lexington my sophomore year rocked 
Lollapalooza and Woodstock this year.  So here's my thoughtful musings of 
two cool and totally different (to say the least) bands that played at 
Zollman's in January of '93.  

I don't contribute much to the net (I just read and listen to what my 
housemate, the infamous Sir Buford has to say) so if this was kinda long, 
just think of it as my contribution for all of last year.  Some of us can 
be happy or some of us can feel sold out in a big way.  Well, have fun 
and those of you in Charlottesville enjoy the show tonight.  Oh, I'll 
close with a neat little quote from that friend of mine who loves Green 
Day.  He was at the DMB Irving Plaza show this summer (lucky guy lives in 
NY) and he wrote, "These guys are total rock stars now!" I wonder why he 
was there? Reminiscing about his days at school in Virginia I guess (I 
even think he has a Dave bootleg now).  He he, now that I've stopped 
hounding him, I think he's begginning to appreciate the DMB sound.  After 
all, he did see them play a whole bunch of times at Zollman's, Dave even 
played at their senior party, but I think he was one those people outside 
drinkin' beer.

Katharine Adams


Posted By: JTNIETHA@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 11:24 AM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 296

on Mon vader@wam.umd.edu calmly asked

>Do you or doew anyone have DMB playing at Hammerjacks in Baltimore
>Maryland.  It was in late July.  It was a great show.  I'd be interested
>in getting a copy.

The people working the sound board were kind of rude to me when I asked them
about it because i had equipment so I don'tknow if anyone was able to get
a tape.  It was a different show with only one set but it was the crowdest
Dave show i've ever been to, except for probably tonight.

					Jason


Posted By: dee3s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:24 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: CD Release/9/26 @ Trax

Hello to all and hope you're enjoying the new cd:

Just gonna share my experiences last night at what is now
Crossroads but what turned out for me and my friend to be the
Max.  Just as Ellis had warded with his post of that tidbit from
the Daily Progress the event wound up being split into the
Crossroads venue and Max which is a smaller, younger room next
door.  So at 10:10 pm my friend and I became the first to be told
"UHhhhh, well we've run out of room so you can go in the Max now
and you'll see the same thing."  Well the bottom line is that we
didn't.  Some blues trio was playing and the rumor finally ran
around the room that Dave had played next door and wasn't going
to play here.  Pretty pissed I was until a little before 11pm
Dave walked into the room unbeknownst to 98% of the people there
(which says something about the band's level of popularity or the
fans that were there).  He went up to the bar to get a drink and
I had a chance to talk to him for a few minutes.  Some Dave words
:  They'll be touring through December then taking a month or so
break, maybe do some more shows and then get back in the studio
to hopefully release a new album in less than a year.  He said
the way the chose songs for the album was just whatever they
happened to sit down and play in the studio first and there was
no real conscious decision to include or exclude anything.
Lastly he said that he HOPED that they would get to a second
single from the album and that it would be Jimi Thing which in
his own words is "killer" on the album.  He then signed my cd
insert.  He wrote some pretty random things on mine and my
friend's inserts and I'd be interested in hearing what he may
have wrote on anyone else's if they were there and got a
signature.

"Upon my head but if" - Dave Matthews

Incredibly psyched for tonight . . . 

Dan Entin


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 12:30 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB dates

> I think they're playing together on October 7 in Pittsburgh at the
> Palumbo Center.  It's a record release party for Rusted Root, I believe.
> I'm not sure if they have any other dates together.
> Shelly

Klong and other in the pittsburg area...you may want to check with the 
Palumbo as to whether or not Rusted Root will be there.

The AJ Palumbo Theatre's phone number is 412.434.6058

As of yesterday, the home office only offered Dave for that date.  
However, they've been wrong before.

alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:00 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Dave and Rusted Root in Pittsburg

On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, J. A. Crothers wrote:
> > I think they're playing together on October 7 in Pittsburgh at the
> > Palumbo Center.  It's a record release party for Rusted Root, I believe.
> > I'm not sure if they have any other dates together.
> > Shelly

> As of yesterday, the home office only offered Dave for that date.  
> However, they've been wrong before.

Dave and Rusted Root **WILL** be playing together at this date...
they will also be playing playing together in Philadelphia at the Theatre 
of Living Arts.

sorry for the confusion..

alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:02 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: dave tour dates (fwd)

Dave Matthews Band:
	
	27 **Under the Table and Dreaming** is released
		-UVA amplitheatre, 703.971.4829, 7:00pm
		-From Good Homes opening
	
	28 Floodzone, Richmond, VA 804.782.0180
	29 Ritz, Raliegh, NC 919.836.8535
		-From Good Homes opening 
		-rescheduled from August 12th
	30 Roseland Ballroom, NYC 8:00pm 212.247.0200

	October:
	1 Theatre of the Living Arts, Philadelphia, PA
		-opening for Rusted Root, 8:00pm, 215.922.2599
	3 Toad's Place, New Haven, CT 8:30pm, 203.562.5694
	5 Club Soda, Montreal, 9:30pm 514.270.7848
	6 Lee's Place, Toronto, 10:00pm 416.532.7383
	
     ** 7 Horizontal Boogie Bar, Rochester-**CANCELLED**
 **new date** 7 AJ Palumbo Theatre, Pittsburg, PA 412.434.6058	
		     -opening for Rusted Root
        8 Avalon Ballroom, Boston, MA 8:15pm 617.262.2605
	9 Lapo's Heartbreak Hotel, Providence, RI 401.831.4071
	11 Pearl St., Northhampton, MA 9:00pm 413.584.7810
	12 Stone Balloon, Newark, DE 9:00pm 302.368.2001
        14 Georgia Theatre, Athens, GA 706.353.3405
        15 Oak Mt. Ampitheatre w/ *Phish*, Pelham, AL 205.985.8797
        16 Varsity Theatre, Baton Rouge 504.383.7018
        17 House Of Blues, New Orleans 504.529.2624
        19 Club Lafeyette, Oxford, MI 601.236.4977
        20 328 Performance Hall, Nashville, TN 615.256.6151

remember to call before you haul....

>From Good Homes are opening for Dave at a bunch of these dates...

alex crothers


Posted By: X51A@vm.stlawu.edu
Time/Date: 1:19 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Phili Tix?

    If anyone has any extra tix (looking for five, but will take any)
for the Oct. 1 show in Phili, or knows where I could get some tickets
could you please e-mail me back.  Will do just about anything for them.

                                                   Thanks-
                                                          Joe


                address: x51a@music.stlawu.edu


Posted By: @mwbbmsg.attmail.com:rie!4399
Time/Date: 4:28 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Everything (e:) in Athens

Thought you'd all like to know that the band Everything (e:) is headlining the 
Georgia Theater in Athens, Georgia on Wednesday the 28th.  If you live in 
the vicinity and have not had a chance to see them, by all means check them 
out.  If you have seen them, I know you'll be there already.
Peace,
Christopher


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:48 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: More babbling from me.....

Whilst in Politics class today, I stumbled on a few thoughts about this 
whole DMB getting big thing....and some opinions on UTTAD

1)UTTAD is great because it focuses on STUDIO work, ie there is plenty of 
shit you can't do live in the studio and vice versa. I especially love 
Tim's killer fills on guitar, the man rocks

2)I would have appreciated more Boyd, but then I thought about it, and I 
don't think I would ever want a killer Blue Water solo made permanent by 
a CD. Kinda like the Seek Up lyrics, which have now kinda stayed the same..

3)I had 4 Phish discs before I saw them, and was blown away the first 
time I did by what I was told was an O.K. show (Richmond H.O.R.D.E. 
summer 93). If Phish had put all its extended jams on disc, the concerts 
would kinda be boring. Yes dave needs to spice it up a bit like the old 
days, but I'm content with a very well studio done WWYS at 4 min with 
cool things like Popper harminica and the other fill shit.

4)Also same kinda comparison with the Dead. Shakedown Street on disc os 
around 4 min. In concert it can be 20 min. 

Basically I'm saying if all CD's sounded like live shows, then we 
wouldn't get cool studio shit and there would be no point in releasing a 
live disc. If they released all the best live versions of the songs on 
UTTAD right now, I'd still go buy it....

Sorry for rambling, but hey, better than an empty mailbox.... 

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Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 5:04 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Re: More babbling from me..... (from Chris, and now from Ben)

On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Sir Buford wrote:

> 
> 4)Also same kinda comparison with the Dead. Shakedown Street on disc os 
> around 4 min. In concert it can be 20 min. 
> 
> |Chris "Boofy" Buford

Granted, this is quite correct, but what I qould counter with is the
unfortunate reality that Dave and company haven't been anywhere near as
adventurous as the Dead or Phish or whatever when it comes to live shows
of the last year or so.  So, not only does the album contain a kind of
stock version of a song-- and this applies to lots of things, not just
WWYS of course-- but the live shows are getting more and more similar too. 
As I asked Barry in private e-mail earlier today, where has the orignality
gone? 

I think this all goes back to the essential point that we haven't heard a 
new song in FAR too long.


On the other hand, when I took the disc out of the case last night at 
about 12:45 and I looked at the picture of Dave and a kid whom I am 
assuming is his nephew, with the dedication to the memory of Dave's 
sister Anne, it all kind of hit home that maybe we should give this guy a 
lot of credit for getting up and singing songs like Lie In Our Graves 
night in and night out (I wish they did that one every night, by the way).

That is a really moving photograph, and on a level far removed from 
whether they are playing Wetlands or Roseland you've GOT to feel 
for him.

Bye for now,

QPW840YPUVBALJDBQO74  The guy formerly known as Ben Tanen


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 6:19 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Varied Setlists

Just a few comments on this Christmas Day (except I was my own Santa)

Fist: Setlists: I remember back before I had any tapes and I would read
about all these different songs on minarets.  Then when I would see the
band, it seemed like Dave would always take the time to introduce songs
that weren't on R2T.  Well, as luck would have it, I talked to him on the
weekend before they went to NY to record.  I asked about certain songs that
I had heard of but never heard.  He was kind of like apologetic about
sticking with similar setlists night after night - because he knew I just
wanted to hear different songs.  Anyway, he explained it like this:  "You
know when you just get something special happening in a song, maybe the
audience doesn't even hear it, but it is faster or slower in a certain part
or someone else does a fill in a certain part, or a new groove happens, and
you just want to keep working on it..." (paraphrasing by me - run-on
sentances by Dave:) )  I thought it was a pretty good justification.

Second: The new album, I like it.  Of course everyone is dissapointed about
some aspect (I wish they would have inclued Granny)  But just think about
what they did include.  What if they had included a bunch of "new" songs
and could only choose 3 or 4 "standards" to put on the record.  Then a lot
more people would be dissapointed...  The sound is very good, but the
dynamics will never compare to a live show - nor should they.

Okay, I'm done,
Take care everyone,
Jason T.


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 6:24 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: rem, dmb, priorities, and a slight bitch...

despite the complexity of that subject line, i only have two things
to say.  first, upon picking up our campus newpaper and flipping through
the pages i found an add for our local independent record store and it's
midnight madness sale.  they gave dave band billing over rem.  hee-hee.

and secondly, what's with all the friggin groveling around here these
days?  i really hate to bitch about it, because i'm sure one day i'm
going to be desparate for a hard to find tape, but something like three
posts in a row is a bit extreme.  at least it's not as bad as spreadnet
where i find interest in about every eighth post.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: ccaslin@hamp.hampshire.edu
Time/Date: 6:55 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Re: botched title

Hola,
Toby and I were climbin the other day at this dudes garage and wala, DMB on the
radio.  I forget which track they played, but "that last one was from a hot
new band
from Colorado, the Dave Matthew's Band"  Toby funkin flipped (being from VA
and all)
and ran to find a phone book to call the station.
That's about it.  See you all in Noho,

Christian Caslin
Hampshire College Box #303
Amherst, MA 01002-5001
ccaslin@hamp.hampshire.edu
(413)-582-5812


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 7:36 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: you can have my isolation....

a timid hello to you all. i'm not in a remotely good mood today, so i'll
apologize now for my lack of spunkiness. i've got none.

i just thought i'd add a small contribution from this remote solitary area of
va and say a coupla things.
1- i do not like having #34 on disc. many reasons, but the main one being that
  this song has an uncanny ability to be playing at the worst moments of my
  life. when i'm at my lowest. and hark.. listen in the background... '#34'
  nope. i just don't want it.  it's the kind of song a person has to ration
  their listenings to..the only sad part about it being on the album (for me)
  is that i'm not fast enough to hit stop after pay4, so i end up having to
  hear part/most/all of #34 and then it makes me think sad things.
2-dmb got billing before rem and all other bands here to, dear rick.
3-my musings on UTTAD (besides what i wrote above.... stop reading if you don't
  care to hear my musings... it's ok. i won't come after you with my uzi.)
  example... my freshman roommate. i subjected her to dmb for that entire year.
  (she is ms. rem, u2, peter gabriel, inxs type-person) the only song she
  marginally liked was 'drive in drive out'.  when dmb played at tech in dec
  '93 i tried to get her to go. 'only $4, it's TOTALLY worth it' (at this point
  flood zone tickets were up to $10 to see dave).. 'come on.. you'll love it'
  no deal. she wouldn't go. stayed home for a 'relaxing' dorm evening. missed
  one of the best shows i've evern.  then, somehow over the summer she 
  decided she missed good 'ole dave band. so she bought r2t. now she loves it.
  her favorite song is 'satellite' (and of course everyone knows how _I_ feel
  about satellite)... and her second fav is....[drumroll] ants. and of course
  everyone knows how _I_ feel about ants. get this.  she was in line last night
  at midnight (yes, for teh rem release, too) yet she bought UTTAD before i
  did. AND!!! she was telling me how this guy behind her in line was saying how
  he has bootlegs from when a keyboardist was in the band!! (i then mentioned
  to her, that had she cared about dmb last year, she would have heard peter 
  in the boots i have.. and i have a muchness.)  
    i dunno what my point of this damn story was.. but i want to say how my
  disappointment is that no one mentioned that fz tickets even went on sale. 
  (even though i hear posters were up all around urich.. hey urich fans.. mind
  cluing us out-o-towners in next time?) 
    all in all i enjoy the album. i still miss carter's ever-present vocals on 
  old (old) version pay4, but hey.. i've got the tapes. so yes, we must all be
  supportive in the DAVE MATTHEWS BAND RCA DEBUT.  i am. i'm proud they've made
  it this far. and i'm proud to say that i, along weith everyone else on this 
  net, has helped them to do so. let's keep supporting them. i mean, sure... no
  more after show all night long parties at the hotel drinking bourbon with 
  carter.  no more IHOP breakfasts paid for by roi.  but yunno? it's nice to 
  still have the memory. it's just a shame that it is no more. 

be good all. any disagreements and marraige proposals directed to me...
love and light..
somebody smile for me and my three more exams this week...
then off for some nightswimming in tha atlantic.
thnx for sticking through this long-ass-motha-fuckin-post.
clare emily
 buford's sig rocks.... he's kicking a little ass with the trent, baby..


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  'even when i'm right with you i'm so far away i can try to get away but i've 
 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
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Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:12 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: comments on the studio and boyd....

hey everybody....
forgot to include this in my earlier today post....
but i think the reason boyd is shut out a lot on the album is that in the
studio the band is very different. I think live they are a boyd dancing around
smiling making a fool of himself kinda band which makes their live shows
great..... in the studio they are a leroi and stefan master musicians kinda
band.... i think its like boofy (i think) said that the people who buy the cd
but haven't heard them live will go and be blown away......

thanks 
rich

p.s. even though rick doesn't like it i am going to ask one last time for bht
tapes.....

                          "He said, 'Dance for me' and he said,
                          "You are too beautiful for the wind
                           To pick at, or the sun to burn.'  He said,
                          "I'm a poor tattered thing, but not unkind
                           To the sad dancer and the dancing dead.'"
                                                    -Sidney Keyes


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:33 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Re: Popularity, Halloween (no, not the dave one), etc.

The Ollie-North-Supporting Butros Butros Smith <SPICE@dickinson.edu> says:

>dave matthews will be huge.  watch and, by the end of the year, i'd be
really 
>surprised if they didn't have the album on the billboard charts.  next
spring,
>mtv unplugged.  by next fall, cover of rolling stone.  you think i'm
kidding? 

wait... MTV UNPLUGGED? How do you figure? Steffan breaks out the acoustic
bass? ;)

I know i know, it doesn't HAVE to be unplugged to be unplugged but it seems
so ridiculous to even call it that anymore.  But then, I remember from a few
years ago that when Poison (remember them? too bad.) were on, the big hair
guitarist guy actually had an ELECTRIC.  Now THAT is sad.  Maybe seeing Dave
playing electric could be fun.  Not forever like Dylan, but it could
certainly be interesting.  Once.

'needle to the vain...'

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*        "We shed a tear that one day we       *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*           may no longer need them."          * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                - Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: daveh@shell.portal.com
Time/Date: 9:34 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Screen savers and random stuff

Has anyone out there seen the After Dark DMB screen saver?  Should I buy
it?  Is it cool?  The new REM album sucks, IMHO.  I like UtTaD... it's fun.
Nice to hear such a well produced studio album.  When I Woke by Rusted
Root sounds real nice for a studio album, too.  I guess I could've used
more Boyd on this one, but oh well... that's their choice I guess... See
you at Toad's on Monday!

                                                        -Dave

P.S.  Have a nice day.
--
Remember:  If you have to ask, you don't want to know why.

                                -Dave Hamilton (daveh@shell.portal.com)


Posted By: daveh@shell.portal.com
Time/Date: 10:09 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: #34 is #34... cool.

Anyone realize yet that on the UTTAD CD song #34 is #34.. Check it out.
There's 34 tracks on the disk.  Of course, tracks 12 through 33 are empty
and track #34 is, like I said, #34.  Cool...

                                                        -Dave


P.S.  Have a Nice Day
--
No Roger, No Re-Run, NO RENT!!
        No Roger, No Re-Run, NO RENT!!
                No Roger, No Re-Run, No RENT!!


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:53 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Re: Popularity, Halloween (no, not the dave one), etc.

On Tue, 27 Sep 1994 NebuIous@aol.com wrote:

> 'needle to the vain...'

Good idea.

> 
> Ben
> 

--Ben


Posted By: cbc3q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:06 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: Setlist(9-27-94)

Sept. 27
UVA Amphitheatre

Best Of
Dancin' Nancies
Warehouse
Satellite
Say Goodbye
Jimi 
Pay For
Rhyme & Reason
Lover Lay Down
Lie In Our Graves
Minarets
Recently
E:
 Tripping Billies

Anyone who has tapes of the show I am definetly interested in obtaining a
copy.

cbc3q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 11:42 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: what's it gonna take? love; ben and ben and ben and ben

i hope you two are joking about these needles and veins..

remember..
 stay peaceful and humble

since i'm feeling much more chipper...
'here's the image: the whole universe energized by love.  the force of love
causing the great swings of the galaxies.  the passion of love lighting the
intense energy of the stars.  the fantastic power of growth and reproduction of
all of the life forces of the worlds.  all of these forces are love.  that's
the image.  the beauty of the concept can break your heart.'

thank you evryone for allowing me to make my presence known regardless of it's
non-dmb relevance...
love and light,
clare emily

ps-'lover lay down' played last night... a longing sigh from clare...


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 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
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Posted By: caw9c@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:56 PM Tuesday, September 27, 1994
Subject: tonights show

Hi Folks,
I just got back from tonights show.  It was tremendous.  Period.
the fellas are really tight.  I just wish there was more boyd to
enjoy.  One though that came up from a pal that was with me was
...... "He has got a firm grasp of the  obvious."

I think that is a key basis for my attraction to dave and his
sound.
whatyathink?

charlie


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 12:29 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Popularity, Halloween (no, not the dave one), etc.

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994 NebuIous@aol.com wrote:

> >> 'needle to the vain...'
> >
> >Good idea.
> 
> hmmmmm? wha? does ben hate ben? er? i don't get it.
> 

Naw.  the VAIN people.  i responded like that since I'm sure you meant to 
say needle to the vein, as in the body, but perhaps by accident you said 
vain as in vain people.

I guess there aren't any english majors out there tonight. ;->

> 
> stupid,
> ben
> 

ben


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:48 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Where people think Dave is from...

On Tue, 27 Sep 1994 ccaslin@hamp.hampshire.edu wrote:

> radio.  I forget which track they played, but "that last one was from a hot
> new band
> from Colorado, the Dave Matthew's Band"  Toby funkin flipped (being from VA

This is funy, my roomate, who recently made her first post in over a 
year, has  a paper from Vail Colorado when they played, listing them from 
Charlottesville, North Carolina.....

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Posted By: MEDICUS@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
Time/Date: 12:48 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: too big?

I usually just st hear and enjoy what all of the dmb fans have to say.  i must
admit that i am a late bloomer when it comes to becoming emphatuated with dmb.
 i saw them almost 2 years ago before i bought r2t this summer and i have
 thoroughly enjoyed that cd.  i bought uttad today and am currently enjoying it
, although i have not been able to give a full listening yet.  as i have been
 reading the messages from the past two evenings posts, the belief that dmb wil
l become too big for the dedicated fans to enjoy is a bit early and ultimately
wrong.  although i see freat success in their future, i do not see them steppin
g away to what has brought them to where they are today, their fans.  look and
phish, widespread, and big head todd, they have all signed major record deals,
but at the same time have tried to keep playing smaller shows,etc.   i was read
ing tonight about how phish has continued to play  awsome live shows.  Will dmb
 be able to do this as well?  they don't have to start playing these 20,000
seat theatres and playing a shorter   setlist with few encores, and they won't.
the buzz to get live tapes will still be there because nothing beats seeing
dmb live.  i don't know where this discussion has exactly lead me, but i hope
ya'll understand what i am trying to say.  dmb can make it big without us
loosing complete touch with the group.  small club shows can never be beaten,
and that is why we were there when they first started out.  anyway enjoy the
 new disc and the properity that this band undeniably deserves.
keep jamming
mark d
ps even here in the music wasteland of columbia, sc; dmb received a greater
 billing than rem, amazing, someone with a brain must have been working at
that store.


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:57 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: There are Bens everywhere...

On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, The person formerly known as Ben Tanen wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Sep 1994 NebuIous@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > Ben
> > 
> 
> --Ben
> 
Bens repling to Bens replying to Bens.....
I kinda thought this was funny, maybe because its 1:00 am...


Posted By: ddevito@copper.helios.nd.edu
Time/Date: 1:04 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Dave at ND???

hey now,

I hope you all enjoyed the CD release show.  It's too bad I'm stuck out
here in the Midwest (the weather is biting big time out here) and not
in Dave's "hometown" tonight.  Anyways, I was wondering...anyone hear
anything about the rumored Halloween DMB show here at Notre Dame?
I've talked to some people here who say it's definitely going down,
but I have yet to hear any confirmation from those in the know on the net.

One part of the rumor I've heard that is that they're to play in the
ballroom here, which only holds @300 people to my knowledge. I know
that that's about the max # of people that would come see DMB out here
(we are THE musically conservative school), but I think it would kick
ass, to be able to get up close and possibly interact with the band:

Me:  Hey Dave, I'm from Staunton and my old boss now owns Tra- I mean,
     Crossroads Concert Hall.

Dave:  How nice.  Thanks for driving all the way out here to see me :-)

Anyways, I was just wondering if anyone on the net (Buford, Ellis, Clare?)
could confirm this vicious rumor and keep the suspense from killing me...

BTW, if anyone wants to ship me out a deck and some mics, I'll happily
plug into the board for you (if I can) or I'll make an audience recording.

Thanks for listening,
Dominic

PS the new disc is pretty cool.  I've been alternating between it and
   the new REM all night.  The Satellite doesn't suck as much as people
   on here said it would, but I prefer the live versions myself.


____________________________________________________________________________  
| I'd rather drink muddy water, | Dominic Jules DeVito, Necrophiliac       | 
| Sleep in a hollowed-out log,  | University of Notre Dame, South Bend, IN | 
| Than stay here in Frisco      | ddevito@darwin.cc.nd.edu                 | 
| And be treated like a dog.    | "Wake up to find out that you are the    | 
|           -"I Know You Rider" |  EYES OF THE WORLD...."                  | 
|__________________________________________________________________________| 


Posted By: seandev@beacon.regent.edu
Time/Date: 1:05 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Hello

	Hey,  I'm  new to the list and thought I'd just say hello.  I've
been following DMB for about a year and a half now and have been lucky
enough to catch about a dozen or so shows.  I have only been able to
survive on Dave via the live show, R2T, Recently, and now UTTAD.  I don't
any Dave Matthews bootlegs.  I don't mean to be forward, but if any one
would be willing to make me copies of some shows I would be enternally
greatful.  I really don't have anything to offer in return other than my
undying gratitude.  I would pay for the tape and for postage.

	Now that I have finished grovelling I have a couple of questions. 
What if anything is new on UTTAD.  I know Best, What would you, and Pay
for what are older songes, and of course Ants, Dancing, Warehouse, and
Sattelite.  Is there any new material on the new album?  From reading
today's posts it seems like the anwser is no.  If this is the case, then
what was the last new song Dave wrote.

		Sean Devereux


Posted By: taocon@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 1:43 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Ampitheater Show

Woah! Just got back from the show. Entertaining as always. Was it just me
or did it seem so short? Noticably missing from the set list was the almost
standard Two Step into Ants Marching. A few of us walked away kinda miffed
at that one. But hey, it was $10. Plus, those sissy Charlottseville noise
ordanances put a choker on the set list too. Was kinda hoping John Popper
might have showed up for the kickoff concert. Eh, it was a long shot.

'Under the Table' is key. The speculation about what was gonna be put on
there is finally over. I've been trying to push it to all my uncultured
acquaintances, most of whom are from the midwest. Ants Marching has really
been changed on this disc. Almost sounds like a new song in some parts. It
would have been interesting to see if they had done it differently in
concert as well.

As for DMB getting huge, it would be nice to see the guys get some national
attention, but at the same time, it'd be nice to keep them on a smaller
scale for a little while longer. That way they can still be 'our' DMB
before MTV and the Top 40 radio stations kill the first single with
extensive airtime.

I'll be at the Avalon show in Boston on the 8th as well. Hope it's a bit
more involved than tonight. Later jackie.


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 7:58 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: DMB at SU

I went into the Spectrum at the Student Center of Syracuse U here in
the 'Cuse to get my copy of UTTAD and saw an interesting flyer at the
cashier.  Seems the SU student government is trying to get DMB to play
their auditorium which holds around 1600.  There's a petition for folks
to sign if they would support such a concert.  Tickets would be $8.

This is a huge step for the city of Syracuse.  I'm not joking.  The
one radio station here plays perhaps 1 "new" song an hour, with the
rest being "classics" such as REO Speedwagon and Bob Seegar.  The "new"
songs are ones I heard about 6 months ago in DC.  So, what is the point
of all this?  

I'd really like to see DMB here in Syracuse because maybe it would open
up the music scene a little when people see that there is a population
that would support it.  Right now, we get no bands at the small clubs.
They all go to Ithaca or Rochester-both are an hour or more away from
here.  And if the clubs start bringing in the bands, maybe the radio
stations will play more of their music (I can only hope).  It's probably
a chicken and egg sort of thing-have to have the radio play to get the
bands but it could be a step in the right direction.  (Yes, Phish is
playing here in November and it's sold out-one more indication that 
there are people here to support a music scene in this town.  Don't
ask me about the Halloween ticket scam the TM outlet here pulled....)

So, if any of you are in the area and you'd be willing to drive to SU
to see DMB, send me personal e-mail (klong@nysernet.org) and I'll take
your mail to the SU petition owners.  Please don't send mail if you 
aren't really going to be able to go. 

My apologies for the length of this post.  

klong


Posted By: NAK315@aol.com
Time/Date: 8:32 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Need some help

I need to unsubscribe from minarets for a little while and have been
unsuccessful with my attempts.  Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe?  What
address do I send to and what message?

Thanks much,

Neal


Posted By: seandev@beacon.regent.edu
Time/Date: 8:55 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Video?

	This past June, DMB played a free show at Town Point Park, here in
Norfolk Va.  He had a film crew with him that was shooting the show for an
upcoming music video.  Has anybody heard about the status of the video?


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 10:10 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Ohio ever????

Hey,
        Just wondering after listening to the latest tour dates if DMB a) has
ever played in Ohio? or b) are there going to be any more dates announced for
the fall tour??? Any info would help...
Steve


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:28 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: dave tour dates (fwd)

On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, J. A. Crothers wrote:

>         14 Georgia Theatre, Athens, GA 706.353.3405

WHOA!!!!  WHEN DO TICKETS GO ON SALE!?!?!?

Sorry for yelling butthe demand for a Friday night Athens DMB show is 
going to be intense.  Does anyone have information on this?  PLEASE HELP.

> alex crothers		

Alex, maybe you can shed some light?

--Ben


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 10:49 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: DMB Tapes.

Quick Question -

What's The best way to get Dave Mathew's Band Bootleg tapes?
Does he have a recording section at shows a la Phish?

Thanks.


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-5.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:16 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Hello

Yes, the answer is no.  The newest song they've been playing live is most
likely #36.  They've been working on Say Goodbye a lot in the past few months,
if I remember right, he brought that one out sometime early last year, and
was only performing it by himself for a long time.

It's all starting to blur.....

John


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:23 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Recording Dave Matthews

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:
> What's The best way to get Dave Mathew's Band Bootleg tapes?
> Does he have a recording section at shows a la Phish?

---as of this point, dave Matthews Band is still allowing soundboard 
patches [i'll assume, but i haven't seen/taped a show since last 
spring]....i.e.-that means there is no need for a recording section since 
you can just come out of the soundboard.  If you go to a DMB show and 
plan on taping, please be considerate.  Jeff Bagby (sp) [soundman] has a 
lot of shit to deal with every night as do all traveling soundman.  BE 
patient and don't pester.

alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:29 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Ohio ever????

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994 SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET wrote:
>         Just wondering after listening to the latest tour dates if DMB a) has
> ever played in Ohio? or b) are there going to be any more dates announced for
> the fall tour??? Any info would help...

i remember Dave playing Denison University last spring...that may have 
been the only time.  

fall tour dates will come sporadically.  they will be posted to minarets 
as they are confirmed.  dave matthews still have not reached 
the point of phish or similiar acts where they release a group of dates 
as a "tour," play them, take time off and then release another group of 
dates as the next "tour."

alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 11:39 AM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: subscribing and unsubscribing

> I need to unsubscribe from minarets for a little while and have been
> unsuccessful with my attempts.  Can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe?  What
> address do I send to and what message?


i imagine minarets will begin seeing more requests like this.  Over the 
past week, minarets has recieved nearly 100 new subscribers. So, let's be 
patient and deal with these message as they come.  There are alot of new 
internet junkies purusing minarets these days and out-of-place posts are 
bound to happen.  

A reminder to everyone:

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		server will magically put together [on average] a day's 
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Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 12:14 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Video?

Don't know the status of the video, but the show was in April , not June.

Gray



I'll worry when tomorrow comes.

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Sean Deverux wrote:

> 
> 
> 	This past June, DMB played a free show at Town Point Park, here in
> Norfolk Va.  He had a film crew with him that was shooting the show for an
> upcoming music video.  Has anybody heard about the status of the video?
> 
> 


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-6.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:25 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: videos

I remember talking to Carter at the last Brown's Island show about it:
He didn't know what the video would be, but it would be a live video, unlike
the old Tripping Billies video.

I had never heard nor seen the Tripping Billies video, but I heard from 2
seperate people who hadn't known about the video before they saw it that it
was on Beavis and Butthead over the summer.  I still haven't seen the video
or the Beavis and Butthead episode =(  Anyone have a copy of either? ;-)

John


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 12:33 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: UTTAD

i think the album is great.  the more i listen to it the more it grows on me. 
at first i *hated* the strings (who said boyd was missing? ha), especially on 
satellite.  "could they have used more reverb?" i asked myself.  the answer 
is no, they couldn't have possibly used more reverb on boyd's guitar and not 
much more on dave's voice but the whole album has a bit of a spacey feel to 
it which i really like.  

as a bass player i've never been impressed by stefan.  his lines are solid 
but not really very interesting at all.  they back up the band well but are 
less than creative.  well, last night i was at work listening to the album on 
a portable cd player with headphones and the bass came through loooooud and 
clear (thank you, sony megabass walkman).  for the first time, i'm very 
impressed with some of his stuff.  sounds like he might even be playing a 
fretless on the album as he does a lot of really cool slides and stuff.  
anyway, those are my brief comments.  

i'll probably sound like a sucker, but i really like #34 and ants (*gasp*) 
isn't all that bad either.  in fact, i think #34 is the best thing on the 
album...

reid\


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:52 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Hello

if memory serves me right...  #36 has been out a while.. i remember hearing it
for the first time at the flood zone last summer with a ravage jam by oteal
after the richmond horde show... (dave on a tuesday at the fz? yes.. it's
happened)
 i know say goodbye.. or at thime any/anti-noise was just nearing it's
inception...somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but i really don't think #36 is
newer... (more new?) than ye 'olde quick lay....

hugs and one more exam this week... 
clare emily

ps- excuse this extra shit at the end of my post.. my modem's got multiple
personality disorder.. whonder who it got it from?

after the richmond horde show.. (dave ona tuesday at the fz? ys#36 has
been out a LONg


********************************************************************************
  'even when i'm right with you i'm so far away i can try to get away but i've 
 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 1:59 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Doobie Brothers???

Hey,
        Anybody else out there think that the beginning to song #9 (Jimi Thing
I think, disc isn't with me right now) pre-vocals sounds like an opening to a
Doobie Brothers song????  Maybe its just me.  Not meant to be a flame or
anything, just MHO.,..
 
Steve


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 2:11 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: web homepage

I have the resources available such that I can set up a DMB home page
if someone can send me information to put in it (pics, sounds, random
data, etc).
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Question Authority. Question Reality. Question Me.
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian   | source for information, you most assuredly do.


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-6.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:22 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: web homepage

	I have the resources available such that I can set up a DMB home page
	if someone can send me information to put in it (pics, sounds, random
	data, etc).


We've offered resources for both a home page and a public access ftp site, 
both of which we were told are not useful since apparently we're going to
be sharing resources with phish.net

John


Posted By: MOOREC@engr.engr.scarolina.edu
Time/Date: 2:41 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: UTTAD,GUITAR TRANS.

    I'M ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE NEW GUYS WHO JUST SUBSCRIBED TO
MINARETS, BUT I'VE BEEN A DMB FAN FOR A WHILE AND THIS HAS OPENED UP
A WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR ME.  THE THING THAT SUCKS IS THAT I HAVE THREE
TEST THIS WEEK AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME USE THE COMPUTER OR
LISTEN TO UTTAD.  I HAVE LISTENED TO IT ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT I LIKE
ALL OF THE SONGS THAT WERE ON R2T AND RECENTLY BETTER ON THIS
ALBLUM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WAREHOUSE.  THEY REALLY SCREWED THIS ONE
UP.  THIS SONG WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED WITH DAVE AND A GUITAR AND NOT
MUCH ELSE.  I GUESS IT'S HARD, NOT TO MAKE THE SONG COMPLEX WHEN YOU
HAVE SO MANY GOOD MUSCIANS WHO ALL WANT TO ADD A LITTLE TO THE SONG.
I ALSO HAVE A FEW TRANSCRIPTIONS FOR SOME SONGS BUT I WILL NOT HAVE
TIME TO TYPE THEM THIS WEEK.  IF ANYBODY OUT THERE IS WORKING ON
DANCING NANCIES, SEND ME WHATEVER YOU HAVE, BECAUSE I ALMOST HAVE IT
BUT SOME OF IT IS MISSING.  I'VE GOT TO STUDY NOW.  SEE YOU IN
GEORGIA, I HOPE.



         "DON'T WASTE TIME LISTENING TO MUSIC YOU DON'T LIKE"
                                              H. Jackson Brown


Posted By: SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:41 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: subscribe

Sun will shine, no matter what I do. But it will shine brighter\
if you hook me up. yoyoyoyoyo!


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 2:41 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: #34

O.k., maybe this has been discussed before or maybe no one else thought
anything of it and that it's not worth mentioning but did you notice that
#34 is track 34 on the cd?

klong


Posted By: whb4@cornell.edu
Time/Date: 3:15 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Boyd's Wah-Wah, Delay effects, keyboards, +

I agree completely with Butros Butros Smith <SPICE@dickinson.edu> (Reid
Spice) in his message about popularity.  Where is that (Boyd's)
WAH-WAH??!!!  I LOVE wah and I thought that it sounded cool as shit!  Also,
I really dug the delay on Dave's vocals, that was soooo cool.  Basically
because he knew exactly when not to use it!  Does no one else miss these
unique goodies??  Also, my signature has a quote from some dave mathews
show that I need an ID on.  THAT was a COOL watchtower yes siry-bob!  Who
was playing keyboards on that particular Watchtower?  Someone out there
knows no doubt.  I think that keyboard player should be a permanent member
of the band (or was it just dave playing really slow and loud?)!  That show
also had a cool story about Dave playing guitar in the streets of
Amsterdam.  That tape was the first time I heard Dave and I have been
completely hooked since then!

                                                Walt

Walt Blackler       "That's cool!! ...if that's cool?!"  - Josh Fagen of
409 Dryden Road #1                                         TIJUANA CARAVAN
Ithaca, N.Y. 14850
607-272-8037       "When he got there he realized he had circled back around,
whb4@cornell.edu     Roundaback circle, roundaback realized!"  - PHISH

"Since I got a haircut, I don't like to smoke too much green, but now and
then I put a wig on and blow my mind away....." - Dave Mathews  ??/??/??


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 3:44 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: cool pictures available now, more coming soon

Dan, John, and other folks:

We (minarets) are indeed going to be sharing resources with Phish net, on 
a computer called netspace.students.brown.edu.  See my address, too.

As of right now, you can ftp to this machine (it is also called 
archive.phish.net and ssc.org and netspace.org and some other things 
which I forget).  Available through FTP are some cool pictures of the 
band taken in Athens GA at Superjam back in June.

Regarding a web page, I have been sort of working on one for a while but 
it basically stinks.  Here's why:
	I don't have the time to work on it often
	I don't have the computer knowledge to make it really cool
	I don't have all the current files and things the people on the 
list have been accumulating.

I know you all can't help with the first two (short of doing school work 
for me).

Anyhow, check it out at http://netspace.org/DMB

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--Ben


Posted By: @mwbbmsg.attmail.com:rie!4399
Time/Date: 4:10 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Personal to Claire Emily

Claire,
I have an article for you that just came out in an October issue of a 
magazine.  Please forward your address to me.  Thank you.
Christopher


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 4:55 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: my $.02

Here goes, in no particular order:

WWYS: every time i listen, it rocks more

satellite: i definitely like the mood swings/swells in R2T better, but if
what they say is true about what they decided to record, then it's okay by
me.

ants: better on r2t. still good song. flames: sure, but not here

best of w a: rocks and I had nevre heard it before.  Yes, I am deprived...

R&R: halloweenish, imho, but still great vintage dave. they are all really
tight in this song

nancies: that is the wierdest intro to the song, I've heard.  I like the
acoustic more, but it's one of my fav's.

warehouse: again, wierd intro, but...

lover lay down: goes on the very next mix I make!!! as scary and frightening,
redundant as halloween is, it's good to see Dave and Co.'s heart again.

Typical Situation: I have been salivating over this for weeks when I heard it
was on teh setlist for the disc.

jimi thing: itwo words: it rocks!

#34: never heard it before, and I have to respectfully disagree with
madamoiselle claire[ sp? you frenchies correct me], I reallyy like it.  It
too will go on a mix.  I like the mixture of emotions and they way that each
of them feed off of each other.


Other Notes:  Anyone going to Athens tonight, please tape the show!!!!! I'll
be eternally in your debt!  .... in my first few listens, REM does indeed
suck, or at least it's not the band I grew up listening to.  maybe jangle is
indeed dead....Big Head Todd is really good, but I can't stomach taking UTTAD
out of the cd player for long enough to give it a good listen. Gotta run!
Peafce, Will
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RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
             Go Heels!              Go Cats!            Go Braves!
"I hear music from your window, but you're not at home. You're a thousand miles
  	   away from here, and that's too far to phone." -The Samples
      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa)     iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: fostecl4@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 4:56 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 298

On the topic of the Towne Point Park show that was videotaped in Norfolk, 
Va...please tell me if anyone knows whats happening in that, because I 
was in THE FRONT AND CENTER for that show, and I know my friends and I 
would love to know where we could see our faces, but more importantly, 
relive an INCREDIBLE show(it was a total - FREE - high)...Thanks, Carrie


Posted By: LauraL4523@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:00 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Doobie Brothers

>Anybody else out there think that the beginning to song #9 (Jimi >Thing
>I think, disc isn't with me right now) pre-vocals sounds like an >opening to
a
>Doobie Brothers song???? 
-----

   Thank god, it's not just me!  :)  I can't pin down the name of the song
though. Listen to the Music, maybe?

   I'm enjoying the new disc.  Went to buy it yesterday and the guy at School
Kids said, "yep. Dave's really gonna take off with this one."  Kinda scary.  
   The andts doesn't thrill me.  The only version of ants I like is from Dave
and Tim playing at the Wetlands last january.

-Dash


Posted By: lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
Time/Date: 5:03 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: my perspective

wow

  Lots of minarets today. Question: am I the future? I'm way out here on
the West coast and I am ecstatic that yesterday I could walk down to my
local store and pick up some DMB. Also I get to see Dave live in a couple
of months. 
  I guess what I'm saying is, if DMB's popularity means access to their
music for people like me, I say thank you! Beware: I trade their tapes
around out here, so there's a contingent of fans growing in California,
too.
  Another question: why do you think they chose to play in Seattle in July?
(I have my own theory.)

JOE
 
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< Joe & Laura ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <><


Posted By: cag6u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 5:08 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: uva show

last night was incredible, the end of an era.  'say goodbye' was
great! i love carter's drumming in it.  world, say hello to dmb!
chad grotegut.
p.s. it was even tuesday!


Posted By: kwhite@max.muhlberg.edu
Time/Date: 5:53 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject:

hello....can somebody please help me and tell me how to unsubsribe??!!

thanks for any reply

kwhite@max.muhlberg.edu


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 6:23 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: Hello

I have an actual set list from 2-24-93 (when peter wsa still in
the band) which has #36 on it...I'd say that qualifies it as
older...

Wade


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:47 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: some clare clarification....

i think it was will foy who said he'd have to disagree with me and say how much
he likes #34.

i might've confused netland with one of my more recent posts....

i LOVE #34.  it is a gorgeous, haunting, and beautiful song..  if i would allow
myself to listen to it as much as i'd like, it could possibly surpass 'lover'
[as all who know me have their mouths agahst at the thought...since i love
'lover' so damn much...]
it is just too emotional of a song for me to listen to it often. and lord knows
i'm too emotional a girl to handle listening to it too often. 

to all of you who have never heard #34 live, or with it's lyrics... the best is
yet to come.... from the 3/17/93 version, 'oh i throw myself at your feet
laughing....'  god what a stunning thought.. 

to quote my beloved blayk kambill quoting beloved dave singing #34, 
             'lean upon me, i'll lean upon you.. we'll be ookaaaaay...'
clare emily
ps- christopher dear.. i'm going to give you ye 'olde telephone ring..


********************************************************************************
  'even when i'm right with you i'm so far away i can try to get away but i've 
 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: @mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu
Time/Date: 8:25 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Roseland FRi. 30th

Does anybody know what time the band will actually start playing this fri.
Doors open at 8. is From Good Homes playing? 
This is strange I don't recognize any of the old names on this net from
last year. Is Eric Hesse still on board- if you are drop me a line and we
can trade again
sean


Posted By: MOOREC@engr.engr.scarolina.edu
Time/Date: 8:52 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: tickets

    Can someone please tell me how to get tickets for the Georgia 
show.  Everytime I call th georgia theatre I get a recording telling me 
who played there last night.


p.s. If anyone knows how to get from the Athens exit off of I-20, to the 
Georgia theater,some directions would be great!


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 9:37 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: some clare clarification....

I saw that someone already put out the setlist for the UVA
Ampitheatre show, but this was the SOUNDCHECK, which noone could
tape, since Jeff was too busy to fuck with us at that point--

Soundcheck UVA Ampitheatre, 9-27-94

#34 (with improv-d lyrics) which was about 10 minutes long
One Sweet World (which was on the set list to be the first song
in the encore, but wasn't due to time constraints and noise
ordinances)

DRIVE IN, DRIVE OUT (this was just Dave and Carter, but it was
phenomenal.  As John can back up, I've been on Dave to play this
for the past 3 months, and he finally did)


In side notes, I talked to Stefan after the show, and he said
that they had been working on Drive In, Drive Out, and wanted to
get it back in to circulation soon.  

Side note #2, Dave said that he was re-writing SPOTLIGHT.  He
said that there were some parts of it that he absolutely loved,
and some parts that he thought were just *blech*.  So, I'd expect
to see a revamped Spotlight soon.

Songs from last night which were on the set list which weren't
played:
Typical Situation
One Sweet World 

Songs that weren't on the setlist which WERE played:
Jimi Thing
Lie In Our Graves

Upon listening to the tapes (im at Lie in our graves, now)
I would have to say that so far the best song is Graves., though,
I do remember Minarets being pretty damn phenomenal as well, even
they didnt go into Blue Water.


That's it!

Adieu and Peace,
Wade


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 9:47 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: bummer..........dude

hey guys sorry about the stupid subject but you know...

just heard from my sister that dave is not playing notre dame on halloween
cause.......He is going to EUROPE........

what do you think about that......weird....

thanks
rich
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Posted By: vespa@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 9:59 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: help

	I was wondering if Dave will ever play Baltimore Washington area
and also how do you get access to to ftp site for dmb and phish.
c-ya 
p.s. the album was great except for #34


Posted By: sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 10:23 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject:

I have taped a few shows this year around the south.  I record using a D-3
DAT deck, so the quality of the tapes are ueually good.  Some shows i did
were:
                          Chattanooga- april 94
                         The university of the south- march 94
                         Charleston- july 94

Im always looking for more.  ie.- SUPER JAM 94

Would love to trade.   Write back to my address

P.S.  - the Charleston show was great.  it was the first or second show
after recording the album.  It has a great set with most all of the new
songs and the usuals like twosteppin, one sweet world, ect.
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:43 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: damn that was a long digest...

for those of you not digestified yet, i don't see how you can deal with
some 40-50 new mail messages a day.
anyway, wanted to talk about taping for dave shows.  about a year ago,
a freind of mine was promised that a board patch would be available 
forever, barring any intrusion from rca.  there's one problem to 
universal board patches, though, and that is that there's only one
patch.  this means that the second person to show up plugs into the
next person into the next person into the next person.  what this means
is that if the first person so much as changes his levels, it affects
each and every person that's hooked up to him (ie: everyone).  this works
straight down the line until the last person, who gets shafted with
a show that keeps fading in and out.  also, if any person along the way
loses the signal (such as hitting stop), then everyone below him will
have a break in the tape.

on this note, i suggest the following:  if you have mics, start bringing
them.  everyone hates audience tapes, but they're really not that bad.
my audience tape of phish 12-28-93 is a helluva lot better than my 
sbd of phish 8-20-93.  pretty much, if you have the equipment to make a
good audience tape, and you can't get there early enough to get high up
on the soundboard patch, then bring your equipment.  demand for dave
tapes is really skyrocketing, and your service will be well noted.
(maybe if someone could start bringing a patch bay to hook the soundboard
patch to...)

anyway, that's all for now.

i'm still working diligently on getting the lyrics file out to everyone.
i've gotten over 30 requests in the past 48 hours.  it used to take about
2 weeks to get that many, so be patient.  i have to send them all out
manually.

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        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
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                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:58 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: help

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Chad Kerbel wrote:

> 	I was wondering if Dave will ever play Baltimore Washington area
> and also how do you get access to to ftp site for dmb and phish.
> c-ya 
> p.s. the album was great except for #34 
> 

ftp to: archive.phish.net, to the /pub directory.  From there you will 
see DMB, phish, and lots of other directories (most of which will be 
irrelevant).

--Ben


Posted By: dee3s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:21 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: damn that was a long digest...

In response to Rick's post - I agree with everything except that
at Irving Plaza on 7/28 there were THREE original feeds from the
soundboards so there were THREE people with the first feeds and
it spread out the load.  I don't know how this was done, or
whether it had anything to do with the particular venue.  Maybe
this could be done at future shows as well.

Dan Entin


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 11:58 PM Wednesday, September 28, 1994
Subject: Re: damn that was a long digest...

Jeff still provides a 3 way patch as far as I know.




I'll worry when tomorrow comes.


Posted By: ivans@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 1:47 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Jimi Thing -- Doobie Bros.

That first little riff in Jimi Thing is vaguely reminiscient of the 
Doobie Brothers' "Listen to the Music." But, once you get passed the 
first 20 seconds of the song it is entirely different. Of course. It's Dave.
I'm going to Raleigh to see the concert on Thursday night. I'll post a 
set list and a full report afterwards.

-Ivan

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Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 8:56 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: Taping DMB

	Something else i suppose should be mentioned about the whole 
taping scene with Dave Matthews is that you must be self-sufficient.  If 
you plan on taping, plan on bringing everything you need.  Don't expect 
to get patch cord, power strips, batteries, flashlights, pens, setlists, 
ect... from Jeff.  He's got his own shit to deal with and we[the taping 
community] should be greatful that a soundboard patch is still available 
[if anyone wants a reality check, try to find another signed band that 
'allows' soundboard patches].  Bottom line: bring everything you think 
you'll need and one extra [for the guy who forgot].

enough.
sorry to go off, but i worked hard and put in my $0.02 often to make sure 
that taping would remain available to fans.  I'm extremely greatful that 
DMB/Jeff can still allow a soundboard patch at nearly every show--which 
is something that must have been a very large hassle with RCA.  take 
care. 

alex crothers


Posted By: wl1o+@andrew.cmu.edu
Time/Date: 10:02 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: Taping DMB

Hey all,
    I'm a newbie to all this taping stuff and I need some advice.  I'm
planning on taping the DMB show in Pittsburgh on the 8th.  I've got a
DAT and nice mics but would like to be able to make a soundboard if I'm
lucky enough to get a patch.  My question to those of you "in the know"
is:  What cables do I need to patch into the sbd?  Is a regular RCA
interconnect type plug compatible?  Or do I need something fancier?  I'd
be really greatful (i.e. free copy) to anyone that can help me out. 
Thanks.


*************************************************************************
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     Carnegie Mellon University      *  have a brewsky in your hand, you
          lakenan@CMU.EDU            *  might as well be wearing a dress"   
*************************************************************************


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 10:11 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Toad's show

Anyone coming in to New Haven for the Toad's Place DMB show on Monday? If 
so, let me know, and we can arrange a meeting, and possibly a tape trade 
:). Anyone planning to tape this show?
				-Adam


Posted By: @mwbbmsg.attmail.com:rie!4399
Time/Date: 10:47 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: Taping DMB

On 9/28/94 Alex Crothers wrote:

>Bottom line: bring everything you think 
>you'll need and one extra [for the guy who forgot].


I thinks this statement is so insightful and right-on that it deserves to be 
repeated.  thank you alex.
christopher


Posted By: vespa@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 11:03 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: ftp

	Every time I try to ftp archive.phish.net it will not let me in does
someone know how to do this.


Posted By: awd7u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:24 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: subscribe

subscribe <minarets@moose.uvm.edu> <awd7u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>


Posted By: eas5e@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:40 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: screen savers

     Hi out there. My name is Liz Szabo and I'm a journalist with the Journal
Newspapers, a chain of dailies outside Washington D.C. I'd like to do an
article on Dave Matthews for our computer section. Why the computer section?
Because it seems pretty unusual for a rock n' roll band to come out with a
screen saver/sounds disk, or to have an email network for fans. The disk is
in the newest catalog included in the CD cover.

     I'd love to hear from any of you out there -- especially if you live in
the D.C. suburbs -- about why this net appeals to you and why you would or
would not use a screen saver/sounds disk from the Dave Matthews Band. Also,
have any of you heard of any other bands coming out with a screen saver? I've
heard the Grateful Dead has some dancing bears and that Aerosmith might have
one, but these are much older bands with totally different styles of music.
Are there email networks out there for other bands? 

     Thanks a lot! I think this will be a great story.  I'm hoping to finish
it sometime in the next week, so hopefully it would run in the next couple of
weeks. I'd be happy to file it on the net for anyone who wants to read it
when it's done.

liz szabo, the journal newspapers
eas5e@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 11:41 AM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: ftp

hello all
	someone said they were haveing trouble with the ftp sight 
archive.phish.net well i was haveing the same trouble my suggestion is 
try netspace.org it's the same sight just a diffrent name.  just 
spreading the news

matt


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 12:51 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: web homepage

On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, John Timothy Viega wrote:
> 	I have the resources available such that I can set up a DMB home page
> 	if someone can send me information to put in it (pics, sounds, random
> 	data, etc).
> We've offered resources for both a home page and a public access ftp site, 
> both of which we were told are not useful since apparently we're going to
> be sharing resources with phish.net

i've addressed this several times already, however, with such an influx 
of new subscribers, why not repeat myself...

first off, a thank you to all who have offered and are involved in 
expanding minarets.  Minarets, as with any mailing list, is based on the 
efforts of its subscribers.  Nothing that's happen or is about to happen 
could have come about without the help of many individuals.

Topic 1:   HOME PAGE
	A home page is currently being constructed and should be finsihed 
this weekend.  A rudimentary version exists at http://netspace.org/DMB  
Check it out, but, like i said, its still very crude.  If you have any 
suggestions/knowledge/ or contributions for the home page, PLEASE, PLEASE 
get in contact with Mike Makunas <mmakunas@emerald.tufts.edu> before this 
weekend so everything can be ironed out...he's the man. so that's that.

Topic 2:   FTP Site
	An ftp site is available at archive.phish.net or any of the 
other addresses for phish.net's computer at brown.  You can either FTP 
there or Gopher, whichever you prefer.  If you FTP, log in as 'anonymous' 
and use your email address as your password.  If you have any ideas 
or contributions for the FTP site, contact me[alex crothers]  or Ben Tanen.  
As of this moment, there are only some GIF files [pictures scanned in to 
the computer and stored as files].  Within a few days there should be a 
GIF viewer and all the text files for DMB [ie-lyric, FAQ, tab, article, tour 
dates, ect..]

i'm tired goodbye.
alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:25 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: Dave and Europe

> just heard from my sister that dave is not playing notre dame on halloween
> cause.......He is going to EUROPE........
> what do you think about that......weird....

ther are no confirmed dates yet, but Dave will most likely be headed over 
to Europe right before Halloween and stay for a week or two.

IMHO, i don;t think its wierd at all.  Afterall, Dave was charting in 
Prague and has a very European/International sound that i could see being 
accepted by many cultures. 

there will be a date in Amsterdam around the 2 or 3.  more to come.

alex crothers


Posted By: vespa@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 1:56 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: ftp logon

Using anonomous and your email address does not work at teh brown ftp site
if someone gets through please let me know
thanx


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 2:14 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: damn that was a long digest...

not only does Jeff do 3 way patches (he has this cheapo Realistic signal 
splitter) but very often he'll give a digital patch.  

Larry got a coax patch last night and I came out of his Teac pro...maybe 
we should tree it from a clone of his master.

peace,
Blake


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 2:30 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: DMB 9/28/94 Floodzone, Richmond VA

didn't see this posted yet...

1 Set

Best of Whats Around
Satellite
What would you Say 
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Say Goodbye
Jimi Thing
Rhyme or Reason
Pay for What you Get
Lie in our Graves
Minarets->
Typical Situation
I'll Back you Up
Recently (w/ some people like...pretty pretty girl)

e: One Sweet World
   Halloween->
   Ants Marching

comments:  the show ran about 135 minutes.  Sick jams throughout.  
Dancing Nancies was rocked HARD.  The Halloween was the second best ever 
and the jam into Ants was _crazy_

Obligatory Drug Content for Clare:  everyone was high.

peace, god bless,
Blake


Posted By: BURRJONAT@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:51 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB 9/28/94 Floodzone, Richmond VA

On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, C. Blake Campbell wrote:

> 
> 
> didn't see this posted yet...
> 
> 1 Set
> 
> Best of Whats Around
> Satellite
> What would you Say
> Dancing Nancies
> Warehouse
> Say Goodbye
> Jimi Thing
> Rhyme or Reason
> Pay for What you Get
> Lie in our Graves
> Minarets->
> Typical Situation
> I'll Back you Up
> Recently (w/ some people like...pretty pretty girl)
> 
> e: One Sweet World
>    Halloween->
>    Ants Marching
> 
> comments:  the show ran about 135 minutes.  Sick jams throughout.
> Dancing Nancies was rocked HARD.  The Halloween was the second best ever
> and the jam into Ants was _crazy_
> 
> Obligatory Drug Content for Clare:  everyone was high.
> 
> peace, god bless,
> Blake
> 
> 
    This is probably my second post in 4 years, but I felt is was 
absolutely necessary to throw in my two cents about last night.  The show 
was crazy, the place was jammin', everyone was cool (except for the 
idiots that decided to practice their boxing skills), and I was very high 
as well (for Clare).  

     I am no expert on the Dave Matthews Band, but I can definitely tell 
when a band kicks ass.  The DMB certainly kicked mine last night!

     Blake:  It was nice to finally meet you.  =)


						-jonathan burr


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 3:30 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: One set shows???

What's the deal here? Certainly, 135 minutes is nothing to complain 
about, and apparently the band's been sounding great lately. But I kind of 
like the two set format- gives you that "halftime" to cool off, have a 
beer, etc. The only non- HORDE show I saw this summer- Hammerjacks- was a 
one-setter as well. When I spoke to Dave at the Jones Beach HORDE show Sept. 1, he 
told me they'd be playing two set shows during this fall "tour". I still 
believe him- after all, he wasn't lying about song #34 being on the album 
:), but what should I expect?
			-Adam


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 4:15 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject:

About that show last night...IF anyone\ taped it and is willing to make me a copy , I would be willing to mail them large sums of money in exchange. That Set list KICKED. I want it Bad


Posted By: MALKUS@CALVIN.COVENANT.EDU
Time/Date: 4:30 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: subscription

I want on the DMB list 
malkus@calvin.covenant.edu


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 4:34 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Derryberry & Alagia

Tonight in Carlisle, Pennsylvania Derryberry & Alagia are playing fer free so 
if you're in the neighborhood, come on down.  The show is at Dickinson 
College in our student center (the Holland Union Building) and will be 
fantastic.  There's also free food.  Carlisle is 30 minutes from Gettysburg, 
2 hours from Philly, 2 hours from DC, and about 4 hours from Pittsburgh.  
It's right on I-81.  Call if you need directions, help.

D&A, for those of you who don't know, are a great acoustic duo from C-ville.  
John Alagia produced Remember 2 Things and Recently and sings backup vocals 
on UtTaD.  They play a lot of Dave.  Enough said, those credentials speak for 
themselves. 

If you need directions, call (717) 249-0943 and ask fer me.

Reid

SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: time for a tree...

hey all, being the chords file rep/type of guy, i have noticed a huge number
of new people asking for it.  rick commented on getting 30 requests in 2
days... i can't say my numbers are THAT high (guitar is a specialized
department don't ya know), but it's getting large... so there's lots of new
guys, gals, and others (bob barker is a sick sick man)

so.

assuming a lot of these new people don't have a ton of tapes yet, i say we
tree the 9/28/94 show, and FAST.  no matter how big the tree is, if we limit
it to minarets, it can't be mamoth, and it will give everyone a good show to
add to/begin their collection.


'needle in the rain...'

inside jokes suck. especially when they aren't funny or inside.


ben, master of a new sig for each post


just another memo from the cellar,

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*  the intellect."         -Oscar Wilde        *  --   New York, NY  --  *
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Posted By: nmayer@pen.k12.va.us
Time/Date: 4:48 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: The hottest band in America?

Hey y'all,

I was flipping through the daily regress on sunday and there
was an article about all the new CDs coming this fall. The
article was written at The Baltimore Sun, and under Sept 27
there was REm and all the others. And then there was "The Dave
MAtthews BAnd proves why it is the hottest unknown band in
america with the release of UTTAD on Rca.

Pretty crazy.

Did anyone else hear about the minor wh got busted "smoking
something that did not smell like a cigarette" at the VA.
Amphithetar show. I'm feeling lucky considering I blazed a
joint in the middle of Jimithing.


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 4:49 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: rhymes, reasons, and 'rithmetic

I'd just like to share something that I thought was neat.

In R&R, at around 0:40, there's a little voice that says something like "Go
see your daddy."

btw, I heard a rumor that Dave & co wasn't going to be in the VA area for a
_long_ time after this stint..  Can anyone lend any validity to or kill this
ugly rumor?

everyone who's anywhere near richmond, va should go to the Rusted Root concert
at Randolph Macon in Ashland this sunday, oct 2..  it's from 6-7:30, and a
price you can't beat..  free.

i love you guys,
brett

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
"turns out not where but who you're with that really matters.."
Could I have been Dave Matthews?


Posted By: nmayer@pen.k12.va.us
Time/Date: 4:51 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: RE:tree

I second that motion, that setlist looked incredible.


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:04 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject:

>> just heard from my sister that dave is not playing notre dame on halloween
>> cause.......He is going to EUROPE........
>> what do you think about that......weird....

>IMHO, i don;t think its wierd at all.  Afterall, Dave was charting in 
>Prague and has a very European/International sound that i could see being 
>accepted by many cultures. 

>there will be a date in Amsterdam around the 2 or 3.  more to come.

i only thought it was weird cause it seems to me that dave has a very american
kinda sound that is fiddle sax acoustic guitar...plus i figured dave to "tour"
the west coast before crossing the pond but thats just me.....

rich


Posted By: kartzman@sas.upenn.edu
Time/Date: 5:17 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: UtTaD First Night Sales

	I guess I'll tell all about the Monday night madness in West 
Philly.  The signs were out in full about the new REM album, and DMB, 
BHT, GSW, etc. were in fine print, but all the UtTaD's were sold out in 
20 minutes atSpruce St. Records.  Score:  DMB 40, REM 6.  

	My other question is about Saturday's TLA show.  The most recent 
list of tour dates has DMB opening for Rusted Root, while my ticket has 
>From Good Homes opening for DMB.  Who knows the real story?  Also, now 
that the TLA has their soundboard attached to the ceiling, is there no 
way for a board patch?  Any info appreciated.

	 				Check you later,
	  						  Ted

<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>
  Ted Kartzman                            kartzman@mail.sas.upenn.edu	
<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>
 "I was surprised that my brain only charged me student rates for the 
kaleidoscope that was playing on my eyelids.  Show times at 1, 3, and 5 pm."
						-Glynyrd S. 8/30/94
<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>


Posted By: mgcorr@COLBY.EDU
Time/Date: 5:29 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: tapes

hey everybody...
just wondering if anybody has a copy of 4/21/94 or 4/24/94? i heard they
were really good shows and i would love a copy of them. if you can help me,
please email me personally and hopefully we can work something out. thanks

peace
mike


Posted By: vespa@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 5:53 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: tape

If anyone has a tape of one of his shows and could make me a copy I would 
greatly appreciate it.  I am willing to send tapes.
email me 
thanx


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 6:07 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

Let's not get carried away now.



I'll worry when tomorrow comes.

On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:

> About that show last night...IF anyone\ taped it and is willing to make me a copy , I would be willing to mail them large sums of money in exchange. That Set list KICKED. I want it Bad!
>


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 6:18 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, D. Gray Proulx wrote:

> Let's not get carried away now.

you didn't hear the jam from Halloween->Ants...my head almost exploded.


Posted By: IBASSIN@WESLEYAN.BITNET
Time/Date: 7:01 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Nice to be back

Well, it's nice to be back on the net, and good to see some familiar names
(and a whole shitload of others too - wow has this thing grew!!) In any case,
I'm at Wesleyan now and looking to reconnect with any one I lost touch with
while I was moving to resume trading, so if you're still out there, drop
me a line. Now, some Q's...does anyone know what the band gets to do a show,
money wise, trying to book some bands here and have a small budget. Also,
what is on the screen saver, anyone have it? Finally, in response to the
Doobie Bros thread, I have had a tape for a while now with a song called
"Doobie Thing" on it. It's just a short ditty like the one that opens the
Jimi on the album, I'll check the date of my tape and post it later. Once
again, good to be back, Ian
New Address:
Ian Bassin
Box 4067
Wesleyan Station
Middletown, Ct 06459-4067


Posted By: bealerk@vt.edu
Time/Date: 7:26 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Nice to be back

>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 19:10:15 -0400
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>Subject: Nice to be back
>X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas
>
>Well, it's nice to be back on the net, and good to see some familiar names
>(and a whole shitload of others too - wow has this thing grew!!) In any case,
>I'm at Wesleyan now and looking to reconnect with any one I lost touch with
>while I was moving to resume trading, so if you're still out there, drop
>me a line. Now, some Q's...does anyone know what the band gets to do a show,
>money wise, trying to book some bands here and have a small budget. Also,
>what is on the screen saver, anyone have it? Finally, in response to the
>Doobie Bros thread, I have had a tape for a while now with a song called
>"Doobie Thing" on it. It's just a short ditty like the one that opens the
>Jimi on the album, I'll check the date of my tape and post it later. Once
>again, good to be back, Ian
>New Address:
>Ian Bassin
>Box 4067
>Wesleyan Station
>Middletown, Ct 06459-4067
>


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 7:32 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: obligatory drug report?

okay you silly freaks...
i'm so UTTERLY relieved for your inebriation status reports...

action:
 [clare emily gives a grateful curtsey and respectfully 
  extends her ass for kissing].

be good. (like it even works when i try to enforce it...)
you all have my love... everyone of you!
cec  
'mad? we're all mad here! i'm mad! you're mad.... WE'RE ALL MAD!' -smiley c.cat


********************************************************************************
  'even when i'm right with you i'm so far away i can try to get away but i've 
 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: sdeutsch@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 7:54 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: New Releases

Ok, speaking of new releases...I got the Big Head Todd, the God Street 
Wine and UTTAD all on Tuesday, and I've been listening to them non-stop 
and I think that UTTAD is really good, but it will never replace vintage 
Dave.  I do like how Dave is mumbling less and so you can understand what 
he is saying, but in the same token, it takes away the mystique of 
wondering just whatt it is he said.  As for BHT and GSW, I like them both 
alot.  I think the new BHT is more upbeat than their last album, and 
it's based on a single theme which is a neat touch.  As for GSW's latest,  
I'm really quite impressed. This is their first CD on a major label 
(Geffen), and they recorded in a studio (their last CD was live), and so 
in a lot of ways the transitions in their songs are similar to what DMB 
went through with the release of UTTAD.  So, I would get the BHT and GSW 
CD's if you don't already have 'em.  And I'd like to know how good the 
new REM one is...

Sue


         
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	     "I often wonder who is what and what is who."     
			-- Winnie the Pooh     
								          
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 8:06 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: obligatory drug report?

On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, i am a teetotaller not your mother wrote:

> okay you silly freaks...

me? a freak?

> i'm so UTTERLY relieved for your inebriation status reports...
         ^^^^^^^
         moo...

> action:
>  [clare emily gives a grateful curtsey and respectfully 
>   extends her ass for kissing].

tempting...

> be good. (like it even works when i try to enforce it...)

no, no, no....be SAFE...no one ever had any fun being GOOD...

sorry for this complete waste of bandwidth.

ODMBC:  What's the deal with Roi's hair?  Current status of Dave's hair:  
growing out (thank gawd...)

drugs drugs drugs...and blocks of green and orange wood,
your child of the universe,
Blake


Posted By: MCCOWAN97@alison.sbc.edu
Time/Date: 8:22 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: A couple of questions

#1 Who is Anne?  Just curious
#2 Is anyone willing to send me tapes?  Any good show - it doesn't matter.  I 
have only one (yes I am new at this) The one I have is last New Years Eve.

Also - a response to the Doobie Bros. question - my roomate is convinced that 
it is the Bee Gees.  She is not sure why she thinks that though.

Please e-mail me back about the tapes.


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 8:42 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: The Floodzone Show.

I am very interested in the Floodzone show tapes.  If a tree does get formed 
for distributing tapes of it,  place me on it.  I have many friends here at 
Virginia Tech and abroad that have tapes and we are very interested in 
getting more and distributing the few we have.  Thanks and the album release 
party at The Crossroads was pretty good.
Take it easy and God bless.
Scott Miller-
"The neon lights they glow so bright on Broadway!"


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 8:52 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: A couple of questions

On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, mccowan97@alison.sbc.edu wrote:

> #1 Who is Anne?  Just curious

Anne was Dave's sister.  She was killed by her husband, who then 
turned the gun on himself, leaving two orphaned children.  tragedy...

peace,
Blake


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 8:52 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: a coupla questions

anne was dave's older sister.
she was killed (in jan or feb, i think) while dmb was doing colorado tours with
the samples.

i care not to elaborate on the curcumstances of her death. it's a painful
story.  regardless, the child in dave's arms on the back of teh cd is one of
her children (both of who were orphaned after she and her husband's death) whis
ensued in s africa.

love one another. let your souls soar---------------------->
cec



********************************************************************************
  'even when i'm right with you i'm so far away i can try to get away but i've 
 strapped myself in i can try to scratch away the sound in my ears i can see it
  killing away all my bad parts i don't want to listen but it's all too clear'
                                 -nin-
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 9:45 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Re: rhymes, reasons, and 'rithmetic

Does anyone know if Rusted Root allows board patches?



I'll worry when tomorrow comes.


Posted By: wrongway@wwa.com
Time/Date: 10:17 PM Thursday, September 29, 1994
Subject: Trades anyone?

	Subject line sez it all.  I'm lookin for crispy DMB.  I've got 
some DMB, some Traveler and a whole lotta phish.  Email me if yer 
interested, I'll send ya a tape list.  Bye!

Dan


Posted By: seandev@beacon.regent.edu
Time/Date: 1:15 AM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Shannon Worrell

	About a month ago I got a flyer in the mail for Shannon Worrel's
new album "Three Wishes".  According to the flyer Dave, Leroi, and Tim
Reynolds all play on the album.  I am tempted to send in my 14.50 for the
album, but being a college student... 14.50 is pretty hard to come by. 
I am not familiar with Worrell's music.  Has anyone heard her or her
album?  Should I get "Three Wishes", or spend the money buying groceries
for the next week.

		Catch you on the flip side
			Sean Devereux


Posted By: seandev@beacon.regent.edu
Time/Date: 1:40 AM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Whoops

	Somebody out there was kind enough to copy me some tapes if I
provided the blank tapes and the postage.  I accidentally erased your
addres  <I know I'm a moron>.  Could you please mail me your address again.

		Thanks again.
		Sean Devereux
		seandev@beacon.regent.edu


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-12.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:53 AM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Shannon Worrell

The Shannon Worrell album blew me away...

Some woman from channel 29 was interviewing Dave on the UVa ampitheatre
after that awesome soundcheck.  She told him to please try to give full
answers to questions, and not just answer with yes or no. To which he
replied (more or less):

"How does it feel to have your first major label release out?
  No."

Anyway, Carter couldn't stop going on about his new drum set...
I had to admit it kicks pretty hard. The soundcheck at the ampitheatre
was the first time he'd gotten to play it...

Anyway, on spotlight, everything Wade said was quite correct, but I don't
expect he'll get around to rewriting it soon (much to my dismay), mainly
because it's been gone a looong time, people have been saying he's planning on
redoing it for a while, and basically because he didn't seem to be in so
much of a hurry to revamp it.


John


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:25 AM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Shannon Worrell

I talked to Kristen Asbury tonight, and happened to mention the
Peter thing and a few sgs, and we got into a LONG discussion
about the DMB.  To make a long story short, she was talking to
Peter, and told him that SHE wanted to record People, People on
halbum, and he said "OK" just as long as he gets to play on it.



Wade

Bringer of useless tidbits of side shit thateans very little


Posted By: goldberg@rochgte.fidonet.org
Time/Date: 9:28 AM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Hey everyone!

Hello everyone!  I new to this awesome list and I wanted to introduce my-
self.  I am from Rochester NY and started to listen to the DMB early in
the summer.  I went to see them play when HORDE came to Darian Lakes
near Buffalo.  While the concert was awesome, not many people heard him
play.  He was first to play and only a handful of people were there
listening.  That was real good for me however!  Because nobody was
there, a real ape of a security guard told me and my friends we could go
up front, close to the stage.  We are pretty poor so we only had shitty
lawn seats.  Since that concert, DMB has really taken off here in
Rochester.  All you hear in my school parking lot is DMB, and it
ridiculously easy to get bootlegs.  Everyday is "Dave Matthews Day" at
my school!  You wouldn't believe how fast they caught on since August!
 I would love to trade tapes, and I think I might have some
rare stuff, but I really don't know for sure.  I have one bootleg that
was recorded at Woodberry Forest School, a private prep school in
Virginia.  Dave played at a private party and a awesome recording was
made.  I happen to friends with a student there, and he set me up with
copy.  Is this bootleg rare?  I have no clue.  I would be more than
happy to trade.  Rusted Root just came last weekend to the Horizontal
Boogie Bar in Rochester.  I was lucky enough to get tickets a week early
because they sold out both shows they played.  They were absolutely
amazing!  If anyone has any tapes of them, let me know!  I'm also
looking for any God Street Wine tapes.  They are coming in a week or so
and I plan on seeing them.  Does anyone have any Tim Reynolds tapes?  I
am looking for any good tapes that have any version of "Stream" on them.
I've been babbling for too long now, so I'll won't let you suffer any
longer! email me at Goldberg@Rochgte.Fidonet.org
if you have anything to trade!

Seth :)


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 11:46 AM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Shannon Worrell

I'd spend the money if I were you...Shannon Worrell plays beautful 
music.  Tim Reynolds plays banjo on a couple of cuts and to me, that's 
worth the $14.50.

She sounds a LOT like Shawn Colvin...

Blake


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 12:07 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: DAVE HAS WRITTEN A NEW SONG

when derryberry & alagia come to your area -- GO.  go because they are 
wonderful musicians, go because they play a few dave songs here and there 
(they played a sick dancing nancies last night and a satellite), go because 
they write great music, go because they're the nicest guys you'll ever meet, 
and go because they can hook you up with great dave matthew's news!


so, since i was with a dave authority/expert, i picked alagia's brain a bit 
after the show.  some questions i asked him were:

"we [minaretsnetters] heard that you and dave were supposed to write some 
songs around christmas but did that fall through after dave's sister died?"

alagia: well, no.  actually dave came over for about ten days and we just 
worked a lot of things out in the studio.  he wrote four or five new songs 
around then.

me: has he played any of it since then?

alagia: well, they've soundchecked a few new songs.  [he mentioned something 
here about a song named, "doobie" or something?  anyone heard of this?]  dave 
just wrote a song _ONE WEEK AGO CALLED "LET YOU DOWN."_

[this is where i began to lose my mind.  we're standing outside our student 
center next to his car.  he reaches into his glove compartment and pulls out 
a tape.]

alagia: do you want to hear some of what the uva show sounded like 2 nights 
ago?  this is a preliminary mix-down from the 24-track digital recording i 
made onstage...

so he plays the most incredible-sounding tape i've ever heard and plays me 
the "lie in our graves" from the show, as i told him that this is my favorite 
dave song.  


several other very interesting things came up and they also let me tape their 
set off the soundboard (which came out sounding incredible -- write if you'd 
like to trade for a copy, though it's only about an hour... hell, just send 
me a tape if you want a copy).

i'll send along more exciting info i learned from these guys as i remember it 
-- what excitement!

reid

SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:00 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: jimi thing, ftp'ing and 135 minutes...

jimi thing and listen to the music?
maybe not.
as far as songs sound alike, i think it's easier to look at the band 
within itself:  lover lay down and tripping billies are built off of
identical chords.  (and look at the middle section of antelope and 
runaway jim by phish.  talk about redundancy...)
but jimi thing and listen to the music?  i can't see it.

as far as ftp'ing goes, most ftp sites, and i doubt phish.net is any
different, there's a limit on the number of users allowed direct
ftp access at any given moment.  for uwp it's 30.  so obviously spots
are going to be in high demand.  try early in the morning when you
think most people are asleep.  it me seem silly for me to tell everyone
to this, because then everyone will try early in the morning, but it
usually works.

and as for a 135 minute set with no break, first, that's not really that
much shorter than a two set show of old (roughly 150 minutes after encore).
and most of phish's sets this summer were 70 minutes long, making for maybe
165 minutes after encore.  also, how is uva amphitheatre in terms of being
logistically sound for the band to take a 20 minute break, and lastly,
and this is the most unfortunate one:  dave band is evolving into one of
those bands where the fans get so intent on being near dave that the people
in the front row were getting crushed, as i would understand it, which may
have led the band to cut the show short in the interests of said fans.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:01 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: to the tapers of tuesday night (not a grovel).

to anyone who has a copy of tuesday night, if you could sit down
and transcribe what dave said about tripping billies, i'd like to put
it in the faq and i'm pretty sure blake will want it in the warehouse,
too.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-12.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:04 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Re: to the tapers of tuesday night (not a grovel).

	to anyone who has a copy of tuesday night, if you could sit down
	and transcribe what dave said about tripping billies, i'd like to put
	it in the faq and i'm pretty sure blake will want it in the warehouse,
	too.


	
He said what he's said before (not that I have a copy of Teus night) :
	He was doing too much of something on a beach in South Africa
and that's what the song's about was the gist of Teus night.  He's said
Before he was on too much LSD on the beach in a towel, when a cop came
up to him.  He gave the police officer his towel thinking it was a gun...


John


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 2:09 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Getting Close to Dave

 Hey all,

Rick made a point about people crowding up close to the stage, even to the
point of crushing and being crushed.  This is a disturbing trend.  When the
band played out here in Vail a month or so ago, it was in this pretty cool
little ampitheatre.  It was G.A. but there was seating in the front.  We
got there pretty early and got seats in the 1st and second row - everything
was cool for the first two bands (Jackopierce and Freddy Jones) but then
before DMB, people started to move in front of the front row of seats (i.e.
in the flower beds that seperated the stage from the seating.  By the end
of the show the thing had been leveled.  Kind of pissed me off, it wasn't
like there was no other space available...

Anyway, if these people are such big fans that they must be up front, why
don't they make an effort to get there earlier?  I also had a number of
people crowd in off the isles in front of me and my friends, who then
turned as if to apologize and said "But these guys are from my hometown..."
As far as I know, this doesn't count for much, we all bought the same
ticket.  Or have I been missing out on special seating when I go to se Big
Head Todd or Leftover Salmon, or the Samples somewhere outside of Colorado.
Sorry to rail on, and it isn't just the DMB.  Had a bunch of obnoxious
people but in front of us during soulhat las weekend who said they were
from Austin (soulhat's hometown) and it brought back bad memories.

Adios, I promise to be in a better mood soon,
Jason


Posted By: ivans@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 2:58 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Raleigh set list--last night

Here's the set list from the concert in Raleigh last night. It was 
wonderful. Dave really has a lot more freedom to play more material with 
the new album:

Best of What's Around
Satellite
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
What Would You Say
Song That Jane Likes
Lie in Your Graves
Pay for What You Get
Jimi Thing
Tripping Billies
Minarets 
Typical Situation
Two Step
Ants Marching

Encore:
Rhyme and Reason
Recently (awesome extended version)

My friend Jeff and I tried to compile this list in order on the car ride 
home, so the order of songs may not be completely correct, but these are 
definitely all the songs played. A couple of highlights: there was a 
great lead-in from Two Step to Ants Marching and they jammed on Recently 
for like 15 minutes. It was a real rockin' show.

-Ivan

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Ivan Jay Snyder          "If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle    
ivans@acpub.duke.edu     us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not  
Duke University          die? And if you wrong us do we not revenge? If 
Box 94132                we are like you in the rest we will resemble 
Durham, NC 27708         you in that."                   -Shakespeare          
------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: MOOREC@engr.engr.scarolina.edu
Time/Date: 3:42 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: B. Travelers, B.H. Todd , Charleston

     For those of you in the area who havn't already heard about it, 
Blues Traveler is playing in Charleston S.C. on Oct. 4 and Big Head 
Todd is also playing there on the 16th for free at Free Fall Jam, along 
with Hootie and the Blowfish, the Meat Puppets, etc...  If you want to 
go you still have to have a ticket to get in.


later, 
Cliff


Posted By: mercp@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 3:53 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Raleigh show

As far as the setlist that Ivan gave there are a few revisions-
Best
Satellite
Dancing nancies
warehouse
wwys
song jane likes
jimi
lie in our graves
pay for what you get
tripping billies
minarets
typical situation
two step-->ants
-e-
r+r
recently

Anyone interested in the show- I would love to trade it with the first 
couple of people that are interested-
The tape came out really well except for the second half of best when 
Daves mike screwed up and his voice became muffled-
				Merc


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 5:04 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Results of Provolone

    Project Provolone is now at a halt!

Here is the final results of the mood music survey.

conjuaem@urvax.urich.edu

    Best Part, Mtn Cry: BT
    enya: enya
    God Street Wine:GSW

tcsaarva@fedex.com
    
    Frank Zappa: Apostraphe

2787Macintyr@vmsa.csd.mu.edu
    
    Absolute Worst: Def Leppard [ yup!]
    Good: Rush [ YEAH!], Yes, Matthew Sweet, Paul Westerberg, Lou Reed
        and BT

80382@strauss.udel.edu
    
    Alone-BT

misha+@cmu.edu

    Conquer Me, Alone, Just Wait, Mtns Win Again, Sweet Pain, Look Around

lmpautle@artsci.wustl.edu

    Bryan Adams
    Peter Gabriel:In Your Eyes [ I had 12 year olds at camp this summer
                cheesing to that one]
    "Lady In Red"

sarah.h.reynolds@dartmouth.edu

    I'll Back You Up: Dave Matthews Band

cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu

    Lover Lay Down: Dave Matthews Band
    Sweet Pain: Blues Traveler

medicus@unicscvm.csd.scarolina.edu
    
    Circle, Bittersweet: Big Head Todd & the Monsters
    HOOTIE & the BLOWFISH

aphorg@mail.wm.edu

    Ripple: the Dead
    Lullaby: Deep Forest
    Just Wait: BT
    ENIGMA:???

midey@chem.chem.rochester.edu

    bittersweet: bhtm
    Nothing Can Keep me from You: Eric Johnston

smithce@kenyon.edu

    Did You Ever Look So Nice:  the Samples

TaperCMK@aol.com

    Bumpin, I Can Turn You On : the Authority

_______

As for my submissions:

    Mtn Cry, Sweet Pain, Best Part, Conquer Me, Alone, 100 Years, Crystal
Flame, Trina Magna, Fledgling: BT

    Did You Ever Look So Nice?, Still Water, Could there be another change?,
Nature, Birth of Words,m basically everything off of the first album: the
Samples

    Time Will Heal Me, Essence of the Problem, Be Gone, Dame` tu` Corazo`n? [
Heart 2 Me ?], Coming down Today, Chosen Few, Smile, SLWB!!- (e:) EVERYTHING

    Clapton
    BoDeans [ some of it]
    

    Love Betsy, Bittersweet, It's Alright, there's one on Another Mayberry
that is classic, but I can't think of the title right now, and a number of
the ones on Stratagem.: BHTM


    Satellite, Seek Up, I'll Back You Up, Lover Lay Down, Jimithing: DMB and
#34 too & more!

    Anna Begins: Counting Crows

    10,000 Maniacs

    Everybody Hurts, Nightswimming [ a winner!], You are the Everything,
Superman, I believe, Fall On Me: REM

    Girl Like You, Kiss Your Tears, Deep Black, In a Lonely PLace w/o You:
Smithereens

    Anything at all by david wilcox!!!!!!

    time capsule, evangeline, don't go, others: Matthew Sweet

    And Many many more on a 35 record set.  You just do what works and enjoy
the effect.  I make lots of mixes for my friends and most of these have
appeared on many of them [well, sorta, I mean in the set of mixes from me,
there's going to be a significant percentage of these.]  That's my $1.65 on
the subject.  Sorry for the long post, but maybe someone out there, including
me, might benefit from these efforts. Peace, and may the soulfish swim with
ya! Will


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RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
                                                      
    "Bring back the innocense[Be gone] Away with the jealousness[ be gone]
        Sometimes I feel the strain, I can't help my ways and so now I 
                must say... Be Gone"- everything (e:): Be Gone

"I hear music from your window, but you're not at home. You're a thousand miles
 away from here, and that's too far to phone." -The Samples:The Birth of Words
      
  "Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but I, I'll work it out, and then I, 
           look up at the sky"-Dave Matthews Band:Dancing Nancies

      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa)     iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: daveh@shell.portal.com
Time/Date: 5:04 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Carter's new Drumset?

And what kind of drums comprise Carter's new set?

                                        -Dave


P.S.  Have a Nice Day
--
No Roger, No Re-Run, NO RENT!!
        No Roger, No Re-Run, NO RENT!!
                No Roger, No Re-Run, No RENT!!


Posted By: vespa@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 10:44 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: tapes

If anyone would be kind to tape me dmb and/or blues traveler I will send blank 
tapes and money for postage.  I could never tape Dave but have been to alot of concerts.  please e-mail me at vespa@wam.umd.edu
thanx
vespa


Posted By: gap3s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:44 PM Friday, September 30, 1994
Subject: Song ?s

Hey there,
	I was wondering if someone could help me identify a few
songs.  I have them on tape but do not know what they are called.
The first seems to have a corus:
	"Take this my arms, take this my eyes, take this my
mouth and all..."

The other goes something like this:
	"When we fight over the ocean, when we fight over the sky,
when we fight over our borders,then we, our brothers and sisters divide,
tell me why is it so"

Please help me out here, and please forgive my ignorance
Feel free to e-mail me or post to minarets

Thanks in advance,
Greg


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:02 AM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: 9/30 Roseland Ballroom - A Study in SOMETHING...

...I'm just not sure what yet.

Quick Indication of show: (a) I'm already home at 12:30.
                          (b) I'm ONLINE after a show (ack!)
                          (c) I'm tired, not pumped.

The show.

I don't have a setlist, but I have a reasonable guess at what went on... the
beginning, end, and encores are all in right order, but the rest...er...i'm
probably missing a few

Best of What's Around
Satellite (more on that later...)
What Would You Say
Rhyme and Reason
Dancing Nancies
Jimi Thing
Warehouse
Typical Situation
Pay For What You Get
Say Goodbye
Minarets
Recently (w/ super cool percussion guy &)
         'pretty pretty girl'... no 'some people do', though)

e: 1 sweet world (w/ percussion guy again)
   halloween

Quick Happy Note: NO ANTS! NO ANTS! NO ANTS!

Now.

The crowd.

Disgusting.  Simply disgusting.  It made me sad to be a dmb fan... first of
all, the pushing and shoving was particularly violent and mean spirited
tonight, people were moving around in huge packs through the middle of crowds
very slowly...

And now to Satellite.  Oh god Satellite... I should have known when he
started playing the riff (at 1/10th speed) and the place simply erupted in a
huge burp of applaus and shrieking.  Then the lyrics came in.  That was the
first time I noticed the girls...

7..8...9...10 of them!  Somewhere in the 12-14 year old range.

"SAAA-TA-LIIIIIITE IN MY EYES!!!!! WOOOOOA! LIKE A DIAMOND IN THE SKY!!!!
!HOW I IWO)OWOW NOLFJWNEO WONDER!!!!! AYEEEE!"

oh god it was 10 times worse than it sounds.  besides that, there was the
shrieking after every line... i don't want to sound like a guy that gets
easyily annoyed, but this was as close as it comes to a realization of a
nightmare (I remember telling clare about a bad thought i had that involved
ants marching, giants stadium, and a bunch of shrieking girls).

as far as DAVE, it was good.  it wasn't a show that had anything
spectacular... nancies had a super awesome wacky cool dave intro, typical
situation really was lackluster... they skipped the hits, and basically did
the album version with a worse flute solo... pay 4 was pretty good, those
girls i mentioned go (really loud of course)
satangirl #1: "I DON'T LIKE THIS SONG!"
satangirl #2: "YEAH IT'S GOT NO BEAT!"
satangirl #1: "DAVE IS CUTE WHEN HE SINGS!"

grrrrrrr.

i loved rhyme, it's growing on me, best sounded a bit empty, i think wwys
should go back to the old jam, everything else was pretty much great.


sorry for the length.
well, no i'm not.

ben

drug content for ANYONE who wants it: i've never been frisked so
thoroughly...

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
* "Kicking his mother until she let go of his  *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*    soul has given him a healthy appetite"    * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*               - W.H. Auden                   *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: goldberg@rochgte.fidonet.org
Time/Date: 1:19 AM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: Address problem

Hello again, 

       Hey Graham!  Can you please send me your email address?  My mail 
program messes up the return address!  Also, anyone else that wants to 
trade with me, please just send your address in the body of your letter!
 I'm willing to trade!!!  I just got three more DMB Trax with another 
 one coming on Monday.  I have about 19 all together and wanting more!  
 Does anyone have any Rusted Root bootlegs?  I'm dying to get my hands 
 on some!
                                               See ya!
                                               
                                                       Seth :)


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:22 Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: A Horde Net Post that made me wonder

This came across horde.net.  
alex crothers


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 15:44:22 CST
From: BlaineZo  <ANDERSENB@wmpenn.edu>
To: horde@world.std.com
Subject: DMB

Ok - I took everyone's advice and I went out and bought the new Dave 
Matthews band CD.  And - I suppose this comes as no surprise - I 
thought it was totally cool!

I've already listened to it three times, and I faxed in an order for 
their other two CD's.  Thanks for exposing me to this great band!

BTW - I finally recognized them after hearing the first song, which I 
have heard before on the radio but never knew who it was...

		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
		particularly check out this part.


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 1:37 AM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: Hey guys

Hey all... ive been reading this list since early summer- you all are a 
great group of people. Im pretty bummed right now.... sighh..... i used 
to see DMB all the time in 92-93 at trax, and would have loved to go see 
them at the amphitheater at my alma mater, but alas am in jail (i mean 
grad school) here at Wake Forest (NC sucks. If anyone lives in this grand 
state, please tell me what there is to do in Winston Salem) Anyhow, im 
depressed and wanted to vent my frustrations... you all have been great, 
ive been experiencing DMB through your colorful posts. 

Well here is the main point of my so far depressing post:
I have a  tape (from trax i think) from sometime in early 93 (i think) 
and was wondering if anyone could give me a date... some of the things he 
talks about are:
1)"my cousin is here tonight, neither of us are named nancy, but this is 
Dancing Nancies"
2)he does a slow version of Two Step and before beginning talks about 
Peter Greisar (sp?) and how he was "Stricken... with something. Nothing 
is missing.. this song would normally feature Peter Greisar but today it 
features..ME uhoh! This song is called Two Step yeah..."
any ideas?
thanks for listening to me bitch!
Kristin


Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 2:56 AM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: Another comment on the Roseland 9/30 Show

I'll admit to being biased, but the Halloween encore was kickin'.
Carter's solo was one of the best I've  heard him do . . . he carried me 
through waves of, well exctasy is a strong word, but man--he was on fire.
 
Doesn't ANYONE have lyrics to this most intense of songs?

I thought the set was solid considering that this is the first time I 
ever saw 'em play to a crowd this size.  I thought all went well.

Saw a girl pass out in the front row and get hoisted up, over, and around 
by security.  Any news on her health?

And finally, I didn't hear anything about Dave's sister dying.  What's 
the story?

Ciao. 
Marianne


Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 3:13 AM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: Free phone calls to Capital Hill (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 94 13:06:50 edt
From:sandre@asc.upenn.edu
To: cfranz@ntia.doc.gov, bharris@ntia.doc.gov, marianne.bakia@columbia.edu,
    stu_cpconn@vax1.acu.jmu.edu
Subject: Free phone calls to Capital Hill 


hey, tell all your friends............

You can call Capitol Hill to tell your Congressperson or Senator what 
you think AND charge the religious right for your call.

Far-right Traditional Values Coalition leader Rev. Lou Sheldon paid for a
toll-free number so anti-gay supporters could call congressional members
and express their political views.

Well, progressives can use the same number and give the opposite views
directly to DC.  The 1-800-768-2221 phone number connects you directly to
Capitol Hill.

Spread this post and the phone number as far as possible.  Let's make
some calls and push up the phone bill for the religious right.


Posted By: LauraL4523@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:02 AM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: Re: Getting Close to Dave

jjthomps@teton.mines.colorado.edu wrote:

>Rick made a point about people crowding up close to the stage, >even to the
>point of crushing and being crushed.  This is a disturbing trend.  
--------

  It sure is.  At the Raleigh show the other night, people were really
getting pushed around.  I got there late, due to getting entirely turned
around on the Beltline (what a crazed road!).  I was kinda sad I wouldn't get
a good spot on the floor. 

    Luckily, the show hadn't started yet, and I walked right up to the front
for From Good Homes.  I liked them, will have to give them a better listen
soon.  Once their set ended, I went to get a beer, and by the time I came
back, I could see there was no point in getting back to the front.  Couldn't
breathe in that crowd up by the stage, let alone dance.  I stood off at the
edge on the left side, and had a blast; lotsa room to move :)

    I don't understand why people feel it necessary to press themselves to
the stage when the room is so small to begin with.  I still felt "close to
Dave," even on the edge of the crowd.

What we don't need is people getting trampled one of these days.

Take it easy,
-Dash  :)


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 11:35 AM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: Re: A Horde Net Post that made me wonder

>This came across horde.net.
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>BTW - I finally recognized them after hearing the first song, which I
>have heard before on the radio but never knew who it was...
>
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>        particularly check out this part.

Yeah, I saw that and was wondering too.  I think he might mean Recently,
which got a lot of airplay down here at least..  so much, it's one of those
'skips' on the cds now..  don't think he would mean bowa, since I doubt
that's gotten any airplay.

who knows..  i just hope that dmb concerts aren't going to turn into moshing
bt concerts of occasion.  dmb is a lot slower and not nearly as hard, which
is a _good thing_. (tm)  but, who knows..  plaster a band all over town, and
just look at the weirdo's you'll attract.  :)

brett

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"what a beautiful day to celebrate life"


Posted By: jbliszt@midway.uchicago.edu
Time/Date: 3:19 PM Saturday, Ocotber 1, 1994
Subject: Chicago 28 October

Hi all,
   Is anyone planning to go to/tape the 28 October show at The Vic in
Chicago?? I'm very excited--I haven't seen the band since the summer Horde
shows. Tix are only $7 (aah to be back at the Eastern Standard for FREE).
How does that compare to elsewhere? A friend of mine in Boston said he was
paying $20something 

--Jeff
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Posted By: AR_MURPHY@SMCVAX.SMCVT.EDU
Time/Date: 3:49 PM Saturday, Ocotber 1, 1994
Subject: Producer

I know Steve Lillywhite has produced U2. Who else has he worked with
in the past??? - andy -


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 7:44 PM Saturday, October 1, 1994
Subject: ravings of a madman

The spin doctors played at my school the other day, and a review of the
concert came out in yesterday's paper (I didn't go).  Being that the sd's are
compared a lot to bt, and there's a lot of worry about dmb becoming big, I
thought I'd try to theorize on this..

There's been talk on the bt net about people going to see the sd concert only
for gin blossoms (we also had cracker & another here), then leaving before
the sd's came on.  The article mentioned this happened en masse the other
night, and that a lot of people weren't happy when the sd's played songs they
didn't know...

could bands making it big be causing their own demise?  I mean, with bands
that take the song and jam and be creative in that horde kind of way, when
they make it big, the people going to their shows don't want that, they want
the top-40 single they know.  so, the band changes accordingly.  call it a
loss of integrity or whatever you'd like, they're just playing to their
audience (which dmb does all the time; slow or fast..).

I don't know.. the article just spoke about people being all fussy when they
didn't play album cuts and a couple friends of friends were upset when they
played two princes too fast..  when to me, playing songs faster or slower is
the sign of a dynamic band (at richmond, va horde BT played like lightning,
and it was incredible)..

anyway, just rambling on in williamsburg, va.  (where the phone never seems
to ring...)  :)

brett


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Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
"what a beautiful day to celebrate life"
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