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October 915, 1994

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Posted By: RAJBALA@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
Time/Date: 2:23 AM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject:

    How does everyone like the new album?  I give it two thumbs up...


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 2:36 AM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Boston show

Hi all.

Here are some highlights from tonight's show:

* DEBUT OF A NEW TUNE!!!!
  Yes folks, that's right.  We heard them working on it during sound 
check.  I don't think it was "Let You Down" as we heard about from John 
Alagia last week-- but as usual it was rather difficult to make out the 
words on first hearing.

* Seek Up opener
  
* Jimi Thing-- 10 minutes and 13 seconds, in case you're curious (and a 
nice Dave solo).

* Jane song re-appears after an absence

* Halloween with incredible drums


Oh, that's about it.  The place was ABSOLUTELY PACKED.  

--Ben


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 10:46 AM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Boston Show.

So who taped last night's Boston show? I'm sure SOMEBODY has to have that 
sound check. Sooooo...If you have the time.. Let us know...HOW IS IT?!
Oh BTW: The phish show last night in charlottesville just kicked arse. 
AND I heard a wild crazy rumor that Dave is opening for phish on the 27th?
WOW!


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 11:50 AM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: boydness

Recently, the 'boyd isn't an excellent musician' debate surfaced it's ugly
head once again.  On one side, people say he just can't play all that well,
and others say he plays just fine and besides, his charisma more than makes
up for any lack of ability.

I was watching a movie the other night, and an ad for backbeat was before the
movie (it's going to be on video the 12th, and is a truly excellent film btw.
if you can see it, do).  In one blurb, McCartney is arguing with Lennon that
Stu (the bass player) can't play worth shit and he doesn't know why Stu is
even in the band and they should get rid of him and all this and that..
Lennon looks at McCartney, and says something to the effect of "it's not what
he plays, it's HOW he plays.  LOOK at him."  and he truly was the image of a
bass player.  the coolness, the mellowness, the bluesness, the thereness was
all his, and the band attracted a lot of people because he was up there.

Unless it's blatant, I don't think I would honestly notice one of the guys
playing off key once or twice, because I don't think my ear is that good.

But, the first time I saw dave, the first time a friend in OH saw dave, and
I'm sure for many the same, the boydness of the band truly blows you away.
you become so lost in his appeal as an entertainer the musician part might
slip a bit on your rating scale.  (yes, I know after seeing them a few times
and listening to their songs to no end your listening habits mature and you
begin to become more selective in your hearing..)

well, i'm starting down a road that's been hashed many times before, so i'll
stop.  but i immediately thought of dave band when i saw the clip, and
thought I'd share.

be good,
brett

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                       bmking@mail.wm.edu
if god had meant for us to be naked, we would've been born that way.


Posted By: RAJBALA@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
Time/Date: 3:22 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Sattelite song

  What's the word on their new versions of Sattelite and Ants Marching?
  I like them...as long as they play their other stuff just as well
  on the tour....


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:39 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Re: ben's dancing nancies

hey ben  ..just thought i'd add to the part about dedicating the song to 
Vivian.

She's probably lurking on this list somewhere ..or one of the two people 
who were with her are

Vivian ..is Vivian Stone who goes to W&L with me and bunches of other 
folks. She's cool ..'nuff said.   As the story was told to me he 
dedicated the song to her because she wasn't smiling very much.  SHe had 
a SHIT week ... something about the flasher freak in the library here.  
So dave noticed it and dedicated the song to her ...after the song or 
after the show did he walk up to her and kiss her cheek???

Whatever ..one of them could tellthe story MUCH better  ..but the gist si 
there. It was Dave's random act of kindness ..he jsut wanted to make her 
smile.

kittens purring make me smile
cathy


Posted By: johnfro@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 4:26 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject:

what's up dmb fans
we're big fans at duke.
we saw the raleigh show and it was good
we like good things
i would never call it bad
we don't like bad things
after the show we had scattered, smothered, covered, diced, chunked, 
topped, spooged on, ashed on, and hocked a loogie on
we like waffle house
it is good
we like good things

later on scrubs


Posted By: PERROBERT@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:51 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: please lend me a hand...

as much as i like dmb + bht i just have tmm (too much mail)!

somebody... anybody... please let me know how to unsubscribe from minarets...


thank you!

perrobert@aol.com


Posted By: JGIUNTI@instruct.gsb.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 6:07 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION

BBS Admin,

Please unsubscribe me from your forum AT ONCE!  I did not wish to
subscribe, but if you read my original message, asked to subscribe
another.  I am a Technical Analyst here at Columbia and was trying to
help out a student who was unsuccessful at attempting to subscribe.

Again, LET ME OUT!

- John


Posted By: TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu
Time/Date: 6:52 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Athens show anyone?????

Hello to all DMB fans,
    I am looking for anyone going to the Athens show who is
recording. Also if anyone could tell me if the show is all ages, or
not, please respond. Thank you,
                                TROY

      PS-- Hey Paul, are you home???


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 7:22 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Anyone taping Chicago??

Hey,
        Any kind folk out there taping the Chicago show on 10/28???  Just
curious.  This will be my first live show with DMB and everybody knows how much
it makes you feel good to have shows in your possession "with touch" as one of
my kind taping buddies calls it.  If a nice soul is taping it, I'd like to try
to meet up pre-show and discuss a possible outlet.  I know its a long ways
away, but just thought I'd try....
 
Steve


Posted By: frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 7:57 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Kansas show

Does anybody out there know the name and/or phone number of the venue in 
Lawrence, Kansas that DMB is playing at Oct 24?  It's in the DMB 
newsletter, but I lost mine!
						Thanks,
			            Brian Frenkel  (frenkel@ucsu.colorado.edu)


Posted By: TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu
Time/Date: 9:15 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 310

Hello, Is anyone going to the Athens show on the 14th??? If so, do
you know anyone taping the show. Also, is this an all ages show?
please respond ASAP..         THANK YOU,

                                        Troy.
"An explorer he went wondering, to satisfy his pondering, basically
meandering in sure of what he'd find.."     B.T.


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 9:55 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: Re: CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION

I think you might need to relax a little.  




Point 1: This isn't a BBS.  This is a mailing list run via the Internet.
Point 2: I can't Unsubscribe you until you ask for my help.
Point 3: You're replying to a whole mailing list; one of which you sent that 
						orginal message to.
Point 4: To unsubscribe YOU must send the message, "unsub minarets" to 
						listproc@moose.uvm.edu
	This message must be sent from the original subscribing address.


Alex Crothers

------------------------------------------
> Please unsubscribe me from your forum AT ONCE!  I did not wish to
> subscribe, but if you read my original message, asked to subscribe
> another.  I am a Technical Analyst here at Columbia and was trying to
> help out a student who was unsuccessful at attempting to subscribe.
> 
> Again, LET ME OUT!
> 
> - John
> 


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:51 PM Sunday, October 9, 1994
Subject: to the guy who set up the www homepage!!!

i actually have a faq, now.  i just finished it, but i'm going to wait
until tomorrow to post it, because i want to see if alex can set it up
to be by itself in a single post.  i might break it in half for the 
purposes of posting it.

but this means that it can now go on our www homepage, but i don't
know who is running that.  if you could get in touch with me, please
do, because alot of people are waiting to get there hands on this
file, and i think we should get it there as soon as possible.

once again, digestified people should be seeing the faq tuesday.
undigestified people can look for it tomorrow.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: JFDITT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Time/Date: 12:33 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: denison 4/22/94

hello,
       One of my friend's first dmb shows was at Denison Univ. in Granville,
 OH (4/22/94). He asked me if I could get a tape of it for him. I know
 somebody asked for this tape a few days ago, but I accidently erased their
 address. If anybody has this, I'll give them cash or whatever. My friend
 has a lot of hours of dead and a few other bands if you would rather trade.
                                                         Thanks,
                                                            Jay


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:42 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Re: Was Blake FOOLISHLY COCKY err Confident??

Ok .. i said i'd do this publically  .."Blake is the MAN"  ..thats even 
sortof shouting.  Out of your ever soo keen wisdom you called many (3+) 
of the songs for Phish on Saturday ..your abilty (for once ...) finally 
showed its true colors ..blahblah


but  ..what was this about callingthis weekends dave stuff within 3 songs 
andin order?? huh huh?? did you  ..what did ben say new song? and return 
of jane song ? whaddoya say to that?

I'd say its hard to wear cocky and look good.

ISNT GOOD SPIRITED JEST fun?
cheers blake  ..and the rest of yall ..well to all goodnight (as I skip 
out on work for sleep.lovely lovely SLEEP!)


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:PMEA8678@URIACC.URI.EDU
Time/Date: 3:59 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Providence Show

I just got back from the Providence show so pardon me if I'm a
bit incoherent.(It's 3:40 a.m.) I'll have to say that this show
put me right on my ass. After hearing the set from last night
I was very unhappy with the first couple tunes,but after that
things started to get crazy. Anyway,here's the set.

Seek Up
Dancing Nancies(Could I have been lost somewhere in Providence)
Song that Jane Likes
Satellite(Bathroom Break)
Get In Line (new tune,Everyone ended up doing something)
Best Of What's Around
Jimi Thing (10 minutes at least)
Rhyme and Reason(intense)
Cry Freedom Cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Granny
What Would You Say
#36!!!!
Minarets>Typical(unreal)
1 sweet world(began w/ Dave singing opening line,1 sweet world)
Ants Marching
E:WareHouse
Tripping Billies

Although the last few were pretty common,there was intensity that I can't
explain.For example,when Dave stepped back and let the crowd sing
"People In Every Direction" or the smooth minarets>typical transition
that left me speechless.

Sorry for the length but I thought this might be of interest.
P.S.Got the adress and phone # of the first dude to plug in.(DAT)


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 8:04 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Re: Providence Show

> Get In Line (new tune,Everyone ended up doing something)

nice

> Cry Freedom Cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLY RICE!


Posted By: MOOREC@engr.engr.scarolina.edu
Time/Date: 9:24 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: tickets over the phone

I went to sleep at four this morning, got up at eight and drove three
hours to Athens to get tickets.  When I got there I waited for over
an hour in line(it rained a little).  Then it sold out when I was
about 20 feet from the door. I then drove back home, it took three
hours and a half hours(I got lost).  I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm
bitching, but I just can't understand why they couldn't sell tickets
over the phone.  It makes it kind of hard to follow a band when you
have to drive to where they are playing twice.  Anyway if anybody has
an extra I'd really appreciate you letting me know.

P.S.  To all of you guys who got your friends to stand in line so
that you could get extra tickets to scalp for three times what they
cost
YOU SUCK!


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 9:31 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Re: Providence Show

> Dancing Nancies(Could I have been lost somewhere in Providence)

Here's a new one for you Rick.

> Song that Jane Likes

Good to see her back.

> Get In Line (new tune,Everyone ended up doing something)

Hurrah.  Are the words coherent?

> Jimi Thing (10 minutes at least)
> Rhyme and Reason(intense)

a nice package.

> Cry Freedom Cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ohh Boy.  This was the last one I expected.

> Granny

My friend is psyched-one of his favs and  he was there.

> #36!!!!

of course. 

> Minarets>Typical(unreal)

It seems that Dave and the boys still have it in them.  Hope it 
continues.  At least until Northhampton. :)

alex crothers


Posted By: vader@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 9:31 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: DMB in Pittsburgh

I saw the show in Pittsburgh.  It was great, even though the set wasn't 
very long.  Rusted Root was good too.  Anyways, I've got a copy if anyone 
is interested in trading.

Vince


Posted By: SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 9:50 AM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: free BHT in Charleston

Could somebody out there verify this, that the BHT show in Charleston
on OCT. 16th is for free. Write back with details. Thanks.


Posted By: MCGLJ@vax.rhodes.edu
Time/Date: 12:27 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: oxford show

hello everybody--
i'm new to the list, so this is my first post.
i was wondering if anyone has information on the show in Oxford, 
Mississippi on Wed, Oct 19.  is it all ages?  how should i get 
tickets?  what's the likelihood of it being sold out?
 
if anyone can answer any of these i would appreciate it.  i 
really need to see Dave there--it's been a while since my last 
show!

thanks!
lorin mcguire
"mcglj@vax.rhodes.edu"


Posted By: jparnes@unix.cc.emory.edu
Time/Date: 1:03 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Athens show

	If anyone has any extra tickets for the DMB show in Athens, GA on 
October 14 I would really appreciate them helping me out.  It's been a 
while since I've seen Dave and to my surprise tickets sold out within a 
few hours after going on sale.  People were already scalping them for 
$50.00 while I dejectedly walked back to my car to drive back to 
Atlanta!  Once again, anybody with tickets or info on how to get some, 
please e-mail me.  Thanks.


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 1:13 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Where's Boyd?

Where did Boyd go?
     Is it just me or did anyone else notice the "muting" of Boyd on the 
new album?  It seems as though he has been turned into a background 
sound.  Thank God he's still upfront and loud on the road. I guess I'm 
just trying to relive the old "Boyd Tinsley Band" days.  Remember?

     If anyone has a tape of the free entrance, free beer, free 
stickers Seattle show,(with a bunch of balding RCA exec's) I'm very 
interested in getting a copy.  Also, if there's a tape floating around of 
the August Birchmere, Alexandria solo Dave(w/Tim) show, I'm looking for that 
one too.  I have some tapes dated back a few years so drop me a line for 
a trade.
                    Thanks
                    love you guys.
                    toolemd@mail.auburn.edu


Posted By: karlv@engin.umich.edu
Time/Date: 1:22 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: DMB in Ann Arbor

Wow, did DMB get huge out here. Their show at the Blind Pig was hardly 
even advertised and it has just sold out three weeks in advance. UTTAD 
sits at #5 on the Tower Records Top 25, well above BT, GSW and numerous
other new releases. So, my real question here is who has an extra ticket
to the Blind Pig show since I was too lazy to buy one so early?

Thanks in advance (hopefully),
Karl
karlv@engin.umich.edu


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:28 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Dave article in CMJ

Well here's some more proof that Dave is moving up in the music world
I work for the radio station here at W&L and we get a weekly mag called 
the CMJ New Music Report. On this weeks cover there is a small picture 
of the UTTAD cover in the corner and a little article as follows:

"While the buzz on the Dave Matthews Band grows from its reputation as a 
captivating live act, UTTAD proves the band is capable of making engaging 
music on record as well. With the help of producer Steve Lillywhite (U2, 
XTC, Peter Gabriel), DMB fashions a crafty melange of styles defying 
categorization, yet dedicated to the groove. Matthews' voice is an 
amazing instrument, easily adaptable to the variety of striking melodies 
and moods created by the top-notch players in his band. It's tough to 
pick highlights among the 12 tracks here, but the funky "What Would You 
Say" with Blues Traveller's John Popper guesting on harmonica, the 
unusual rythms of "Rhyme & Reason", the melding of saxophone and fiddle 
on "Ants Marching" and the lilting "Satellite" are the most radio 
friendly out of the box"
CMJ 10.10.94

Recently is also number 136 in the top 150 and UTTAD is number 9 out of 
top 20 Adventure Picks..

Just thought y'all might like to hear this...
Latr....

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Posted By: BLBLALOC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 4:20 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: hmmmmmm?

Cry Freedom Cry?
   
    and i thought somebody told me dave had forgotten how to play the damn
thing  ?  
         was it the same as old?  dave alone or with members of the band?

it's good to see it back.  i'm glad someone jogged dave's memory...i just hope
it's not a one thing in a moon time --


any more information on the new one?  mellow, no, lyrics, phrases, jams?

thanks.

brian.
    ---------
it's good to see a big man dance


Posted By: cag6u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: boyd t. band date@

Help,
I have a soundboard master of the last Boyd Tinsley Band show and
have no idea  what the date of the show  was.  It was from Trax,
can anyone help?
thanks, chad.


Posted By: n_taylor@storm.simpson.edu
Time/Date: 5:53 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Oct. 25th TBA

	Being in Iowa one has to relish the moments when a good band comes to 
town.  Earlier this year I received my 1st taste of the DMB phenom. at an 
ALTERNATIVE/PUNK bar in Des Moines, IA.  I was one of 30-40 people in the bar 
that night (just by luck).  Anyway, it was a outstanding show of about 45min 
that included:  WWYS
		Dancing Nancys
		Watchtower 
		Intro OSW...
		OSW &
		Ants
	Recently I received the new fall scheduel and noticed that on the 25th 
of this month there is a TBA.  Rumors have been passed amongst the local DMB 
fans that that the TBA is going to turn out to be in Iowa City, IA. at, I 
think, either the Union or the Fieldhouse.  So I ask can anyone reading this 
confirm my hopful thinking.  If it isn't going to be in I.C. I'd still like to 
know where it will be held.  In addition, I've got the boot to the above show 
if anyone is interested in a short 1-sider.

--Auf wiedersehen

--Nate     	n_taylor@Storm.simpson.edu


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:54 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: for those of you patiently waiting for the faq for the past two months

if anyone has requested that faq in the past month or two and has
not recieved it due to the fact that i let it get so outdated, i'm
going to let you have it by posting it (i know i've said this three
times in as many days....bear with me).

if you want your own personal copy, then please request it again.
i'll be posting it tonight around 10 or so, in hopes that net traffic
will be down and it will not be surrounded by other information.

also, it will be broken in half, so that it can be processed faster.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 7:11 PM Monday, October 1994
Subject: Blue Screen Show Setlist 10/10

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico and Wisk, 2-3:30 Sunday Nights/Monday Mornings
89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago

**Wanted Guyuute** I'd love to play it, love to trade for it, but it must
be HQ (that's what the listeners deserve!)

ok, without further adieu..

10/10/94 

"Brazil Theme"   ............Brazil Soundtrack
"Martyr"(underneathe opening)Rusted Root, "Cruel Sun"
"Split Open & Melt"..........Phish, 7/9/94 Great Woods
"Trina Magna"................Blues Traveler 5/12/94 Milwaukkee WI
Dave Matthews' Interpretation of the Blue Screen-->
"Recently"...................DMB 4/5/94 GA Theater, Athens 
"Gloria".....................Ritz Power Jam 2/5/93 (w/ Popper, Haynes, Trey...)
"Letter To Jimmy Page"-->"David Bowie"........Phish 7/15/94 Jones Beach
"Do the Boogie"..............Leftover Salmon 6/28/94 Boulder CO
"Big House Blues"............Ren & Stimpy

Next week, with some luck...GUYUUTE!!!!

 |
/ \

Brian

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Posted By: x51558h3@usma13.USMA.EDU
Time/Date: 8:09 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: From Good Homes

whats up,

Can anyone give me the number for From Good Homes' record label so I can call
them and get myself a copy.

Thanks
Tim


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:46 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU

kinda neat how cry freedom was played merely two days after it was 
mentioned on the net.  now i have to go change the faq, and i haven't
even posted it yet.


so let's see if someone important is paying attention (we've been
told a couple of times that they are, haven't we?)


so how's about a drive in, drive out or so much to say?



(here's hopin'....)
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:54 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: the minarets.net frequently asked questions file, pt I

THE DAVE MATTHEWS BAND and MINARETS.NET FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FILE.
This file is being compiled by Rick Thompson <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>,
with the gracious help of ellis of lemuria, Alex Crothers, and Gregg 
Carrier, and, of course, everyone on minarets.net.  If you are a Phish 
netter, you may notice striking similarities in the structure of this 
file, and you may even notice that half of it is exactly the same.  
That's mine and ellis's fault.  

If you have a question and it isn't answered here, then ask me.  I may not
be able to answer it, but i know people who can, and i'll be able to get it
answered here.

Enjoy:

This file last revised on 10-11-94.

This file is organized as follows:
The first question:  Is this file as complete as it could be?  
     Section A: Net Questions
A1. Minarets.Net: What is it? How do i subscribe? unsubscribe? other commands?
A2. What files are available:  lyrics file; tab file;     
                               interviews and articles;
A2b.  What is the Warehouse?
A3. What bands related to the Dave Matthews Band have there own listservs?

     Section B: Band Questions
B1. Who is the Dave Matthews Band?
B2. Equipment?
B3. Peter Griesar: Who was he?  Why did he leave the band?
B4. Tim Reynolds
B5. Miguel Valdez
B6. Other guests: Greg Howard?  Richard Harding? 
                    Kristin Asbury?  Doug Wannamaker?


     Section C: Music Questions
C1. CD's by the Dave Matthews band
C2. #34
C3. #36
C4. Dancing Nancies:  great intro quotes.
C5. Halloween
C6. Tripping Billies
C7. What songs does the band cover?
C8. How come they don't play <insert song title here> anymore?
    a: People, People
    b: So Much to Say
    c: Drive In, Drive Out
**Sections D & E are borrowed from the Phish.faq.file with permission.**
**Please see the note at the beginning of section D.                  **
     Section D: Taping Questions
D1. LIVE RECORDING: can i? what equipment do i need? *******NEEDS ANSWER!!
D2. TAPES: what REALLY high qual tapes are around? where? **NEEDS ANSWER!!
D3. TAPE TREE: what is it? how does it work? should i do one?
D4. TAPELIST: what is it? what's in it? do i need one?
D4B: TRADE: What is a tape trade? how do i get into one?
D4C: BEGINNER tape trades, adopt a phreak, reverse grovels
     Section E: Dubbing hints, suggestions
E4: PATCHING IN etiquette (needs to be answered!!)
E5: DCC and DAT compared and considered
==========================================================================
The First Question
==========================================================================
Is this file as complete as it could be?
The answer is a resounding NO.
This particular question is date specific to the Oct 94 posting of the faq,
and is intended to point out that the faq is still in a state of flux as
the net has grown to immense proportions in the past two months.  i 
encourage all members of the net to proofread this faq as diligently as you
want, and to let me know where you think answers could use improvement,
and what questions should be answered.
Alex and i will be working over the next few months to make this file as
overwhelmingly informative as possible, so be on the lookout around the
beginning of the year for a new and improved, glittering frequently asked
questions file.
Information we could particularly use is detailed information on the setup
of the archive site at the Phish.net computer at Brown, as well as a little
detail on what World Wide Web is, because i have no clue.  Seeing as i wrote
to of the most important files for this net, as well as knowing all file
administrators personally, i've never had a need to go galloping off across
the internet to find these files.
So have fun picking me to peices.  I slapped this version of the file 
together in about two hours on a Sunday night in early October, so it's
probably just full of glaring mistakes.  (I'm not even sure if all of 
question numbers in the outline match up to the actual question numbers
in the file:).
==========================================================================
                     SECTION A:   NET QUESTIONS
==========================================================================
A-1. What is Minarets.Net and how do I subscribe?


Minarets.Net was initially started by Alex Crothers
with the help of Ellis of Lemuria and Eric Budke.  The name of the
Net comes from a song on the bands first cd, Remember Two Things,
and was suggested by Ellis. Originally Sreaming from the Minarets,
the band shorten the name of the song to Minarets.  So the name of
the Net went from Sreaming_From_The_Minarets.Net to Minarets.Net.
I guess we all got lucky.

This Net is somewhat different than other musical nets that you may be
familiar with.  To begin with it is not automatically digestified (see
below) so whenever you send a message to Minarets it gets sent to all
the subscribers immediately.  Another aspect of this net that is different
than other nets is in the way you subscribe/unsubscribe.


This is a list of commands that may be useful in the future.
let me know if you have any questions, problems, or toothpaste?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Send these commands to listproc@moose.uvm.edu as the first line in the
body of your e-mail message. In the examples below.....

  Replace the words "first-name", "last-name" with your name.
  Replace the word "file-name" with the archive file name, like: nov93.

  To post to the net:               send to minarets@moose.uvm.edu
  To signoff the list:              unsubscribe minarets
                   or:              signoff minarets
  To signon the list:               subscribe minarets first-name last-name
  To request mail be delivered by digest:    set minarets mail digest 

These are some commands that your not as likely to use, but just in case
you wanted to know:
  To stop mail delivery:            set minarets mail postpone
  To start mail delivery again:     set minarets mail ack
     (if you want your posting sent back to you).
  To start mail delivery again:     set minarets mail noack
     (if you do not want your posting sent back to you).
  To get help about commands:                help
  To get help about the set command:         help set
  To see your current list settings:         set list-name

**-subscribing and digestifying can be done at the same time.  just
   subscribe on the first line of your message and digestify on the
   second.

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A-2.  What files are available pertaining to this net and the band?
  Lyrics file:  the lyrics file is currently being maintained by
   rick thompson <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>.  The file currently
   consists of three files:  
      part I:  all unreleased materials (this part will eventually
               contain lyrics to all of the band's covers, but at this
               point i haven't had time to transcribe them)
      part II: THIS PART DOES NOT EXIST YET!!! but will eventually contain
               halloween song (or best guesses) and other alternative 
               versions of songs like early 'rhyme and reason's, drive
               in, drive out and etc...
      part III:lyrics from the liner notes of Under the Table and Dreaming.
      part IV: lyrics from the liner notes of Remember Two Things.

  Articles and interviews:  this is being maintained by clare clifford
   <cecliff@vt.edu> or <cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu>
  Tab file:  by ben sterling <nebuious@aol.com>
   ben has also kindly offered a free jar of mayonaisse with every file.
   as to whether he lives up to this offer, we'll have to see:):):):):):)
--------------------------------------
A-2b: What is The Warehouse?
The Warehouse is minarets.net's setlist file.  The file is being put 
together by Blake Campbell <cambp_c@cs.odu.edu>, and is currently not
well enough established to really be available for your perusal.  i'm
sure when it's done, though, he will post it, and then everyone will know.
--------------------------------------

A-3:  What other listservs are there?
The following bands have their own listservs.  To get a complete list
of instructions on how to get on any one of them, send a note to our
illustrious leader, Alex Crothers <jcrother@moose.uvm.edu> and he'll
be glad to set you up with a complete list of all of these band's 
listserv and snail instructions:

Allman Bros. Band
Big Head Todd and The Monsters
Blues Traveler
The Hatters (fomally known as the Mad Hatters)
HORDE.net
God Street Wine
Jambay
Mystery Jones
phish
Rusted Root
Samples
Santana
Soul Hat
Spin Doctors
Widespread Panic
 
==========================================================================
                   SECTION B:   BAND QUESTIONS
==========================================================================
B-1. Who is the Dave Matthews Band?

                    About the Dave Matthews Band

     The Dave Matthews Band draws on the widely varied musical interests
of five musicians to create a uniquely compelling pop sound that combines
the influences of folk, jazz, rock, world beat, and reggae.
     Dave Mathhews, the band's namesake and lead guitarist, began to ass-
emble the players in 1991 to accompany him on a demo tape of original 
songs.  Then a bartender at a Charlottesville, Va. jazz venue, Matthews
says he aimed high, approaching the musicians he respected most.
     Seasoned jazz players LeRoi Moore and Carter Beauford agreed to help
out.  The trio then approached Stefan Lessard, who at 16, was already an
accomplished upright bass player, about playing electric bass guitar for
the band.  When one of the tunes seemed to need violin, they enlisted
the string expertise of Boyd Tinsley, and a band was born.
     "Our music is written to be clear and simple," says Dave Matthews,
who is the band's cheif songwriter.  "It's pop music with a pretty posi-
tive message.  I hope it's accessible to everyone."
     Matthews says the band's vitality comes from the association of five
strong individuals, each with his own interpretation of a given song.  His 
band member agree.  "We take a lot of different influences and and make 
something new out of them by playing each song the best that we can play
it,"  LeRoi Moore says.  It is this belnd of influences that creates the
band's rich texture.

:   Dave Matthews (vocals, guitar)  is a self-taught, lifelong lover of 
music who left his native South Africa as a young child, returning ther
as a teenager after living in the United States and England.  He credits
his family with instilling in him an interest in music:  pop, rock, folk,
and classical.  Matthews draws from the folk traditions of many cultures
from around the globe, finding common themes among their complex rhythms.
For him, making music is about bringing people together, "lifting spirits."
Says Matthews:  "It's a good focus: to try to bring people together rather
than separate them."

:    Carter Beauford (drums) was born to play music.  The son of a jazz
trumpet player, he is himself a renowned musician, and has appeared regu-
larly on Black Entertainment Television's  "BET on Jazz with Ramsey Lewis."
"I was raised on jazz," says Beauford, whose jazz influence is evident in 
the makeup of the Dave Matthews Band.  "Except for Stefan's bass guitar, 
we're an acoustic band," he says.  "That comes from the early days of jazz,
and from the classical influence too."  The result is a multitextured
sound that offers new challenges to Beauford and the other band members.
"There are so many different elements in our music," he says.  "You really
can't put a lable on it, and that's why I love it so much." 

:    Stefan Lessard (bass guitar) is a musician whose age belies his talent.
An upright bass player who has played clubs since the age of 15, he was 
tapped by Matthews who "just had a feeling about him, his spirit, his sense
of music: it's so much beyond his years."  Lessard admits he feels lucky,
but his band members say it's talent, not luck, that has brought him so far
so soon.  "The best thing about this band," Lessard says, "is that you get
this potpourri of different styles."

:    LeRoi Moore (saxophone, et al) and Carter have been jazz compatriots 
for years, playing together at paying gigs and informal jam sessions.  
"Jazz is probably my main influence," admits Moore, who also has classical
training.  "But at this stage I don't really consider myself a jazz mu-
sician."  For him, the Dave Matthews Band remains a challenge because
there is room to explore, to respond to the expressions of the other four
players.  "I have plenty of space to improvise, to try new ideas," says
Moore, whom Matthews credits with arranging many of the songs he writes.
"It's almost better than a jazz gig."

:    Boyd Tinsley (violin, vocals) finds it strange sometimes that he 
abandonedthe reserved precision of classical violin for the spontaneity of
contemporary musical performance.  "This was an area that I hadn't explored
before," says Tinsley, who has been playing popular music since 1985.  
"When I'm really into the music, my whole body, my whole soul is into it."
The band's diverse roots are a great asset, Tinsley says.  "We're very Am-
erican, as Dave says.  Jazz, fiddle-style, rock, it's almost a melting pot
of American music."  The best thing, though, he says, is how much it matters
to the audience, and to the players.  "People are drawn to it," he says. 
"There's passion here."

                                            Coran Capshaw, Manager
                                            (804) 979-9695
===========================================
B-2.  What kind of equipment does the band use?

From: Graham Spice <gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9312140007.A27544-b100000@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>


In regards to equipment, Dave uses a Gibson SST Chet Atkins signature
model.  Boyd uses the GK to power two 12" Mesa/Boogie speakers enclosed in
one 1x12 cab with a metal grate, sometimes called RoadReady but I don't
think that this is the type here (you can tell by the covering of the cab
itself).  Boyd also uses a Boss pedal for reverb, don't know the model
number other than it is a digital reverb, grey , with blue knobs.  As for
the bassist, he uses a Warwick bass, very nice if you know basses, I
think, for example, that I've seen his model here in a store in Nashville
for $3000+.  And that's only a 4-string.  The more strings, the more
money, but that doesn't matter because he only has 4.  Anyway, As for his
rack, I didn't really notice anything there important other than I know
that his cabs are SWR and am guessing that his bass power amplifier and
preamp are the same brand.  This is also VERY high-end stuff.  I think
that Carter uses DW pedals, but don't know about that.  Cymbal brands can
be seen.  Have no idea about the saxes or violin.  That's all I got for
that stuff.

--------------------
At the cd release party for Under the Table and Dreaming on Sept 27th,
Carter showed up with a new drum set.  If anyone knows any specifics,
please send me the info--rick.

===========================================
B-3. Peter Griesar: Who was he and why did he leave the band?
when the Dave Matthews Band originally got together in early 1992, they
had a keyboard player by the name of Peter Griesar.  Peter also played
harmonica on So Much to Day, What Would You Say, and some of the earliest
versions of Screaming From the Minarets.
nobody has asked Peter for sure as to why he decided to leave the band,
but dave has informed us that it was a decision made under the most 
amiable circumstances.  Dave also told us that peter had just gotten
a little too tired of the touring schedule.  i suppose asking Peter would
be the best thing, but he's not very easy to find.
=================================
B-4: Who is Tim Reynolds?
As many of you know, Tim Reynolds is credited with playing on four songs
on Remember Two Things, as well as the entirety of Under the Table and
Dreaming.  So who is he?  He's pretty much just a freind of Dave's from
Charlottesville.  Tim has been playing guitar for longer than some of us
on this net have been alive, and Dave really has taken a liking for Tim's
ability to spice up his (Dave's, that is) music.

Dave and Tim have also done acoustic shows together.  There's several
of them out there, and by the next time this is revised, i should have
a listing of all of them.  At this point, the only shows that come to my
mind are 11-29-93 at James Madison University and 12-12-93 at The Movie
Palace in Charlottesville.  There's also the Birchmere show that is 
highlighted on the Recently ep, but i'm not positive of the date on that.
i know it's sometime in February of 1993.  Check your copy of Recently :).

Also to note are a few shows where Tim plugged in his electric guitar and
sat in with the band.  These include the Miguel Valdez benefit show (see
question #B5) and 12-10-93 and 12-11-93 {i'm not postive that these dates
are right, either}.

Tim has a couple of cd's available, and is currently heading up the C-ville
band known as TR3.  Keep and eye out.
=================================
B-5:  Who is Miguel Valdez?
The specifics to this question are a bit beyond me at this point, but i'll
work on getting a definitive answer.  Miguel Valdez was a percussionist 
from the Charlottesville area who used to make frequent stops to the Dave
Matthews stage with a rather elaborate set of bongos.  In early 1993, however
Miguel died.  This is where the specifics seem to elude me.  I don't really
know much else.  If you do, please let me know.
=================================
B-6: Who are some of these other regulars jammin with the band?

Greg Howard:  Greg plays an instrument known as the Chapman Stick.
it's a very unique instrument with a very unique sound.  
His most prominent work with the band are the touches he added to
the studio recording of "Seek Up" on the cd "Remember Two Things",
but he also played with the band the week of July 7th, 1993, when
Stefan cut his hand and was unable to perform.  He was also the
guest performer between sets at TRAX on 9-7-93.

>Date: Sat, 6 Nov 93 12:24:34 est
>From: Grilled Cheese <SPICE@dickinson.edu> (Reid Spice)
>To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
>Subject: Greg Howard

He plays a bass that stands up on end (like a regular acoustic bass
you'd see in a classy jazz band or an orchestra or something).  However, it's
much more thin and, as I recall, it had 8 strings.  4 of the strings seemed
to be low strings and probably in the same arrangement as a bass (E, A, D,
G).  Then there were 4 strings on the other side that were an octave higher.
The amazing thing is that he plays both sets of strings at the same time by
fretting the strings really hard.  The sound is really rich and the man can
really jam by himself.  

Reid -SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU

>From Brett Horton, stu_behorton@vax1.acs.jmu.edu:
Greg Howard:  The man is incredible.
I was lucky  enough to catch him at Trax on 9/7/93.  He played for 
about a half hour between DMB sets and was fantastic.  It was truly 
amazing to watch him play the Chapman Stick and I would strongly 
encourage anyone to check him out if you get the chance sometime.  
At this show he also played with a drummer, Johnny Newman, I think 
was his name and they meshed well.  Supposedly Newman has played 
with DMB too.  Anyone know anything about this?  Anyway, after the 
show I bought Greg Howard's Cd which they were selling at the show.
Its super and I would highly recommend it.  You might have difficulty
finding it in local record stores but here's the adress they give on 
the cd sleeve.   Espresso

             P.O. Box 4051
             Charlottesville, VA  22903

The title of the cd is "Stick Figures"

Brett
------------------------------------------------------

Richard Harding:  If you can find any of his shows, check this
guy's flute work out.  He played at TRAX, 11-2-93 and really gave
Warehouse a nice touch, as well as giving some of the body which
Lover Lay Down lost when Peter left the band.

|From Gregg Carrier, stu_gjcarrie@vax1.acs.jmu.edu:
On the flute...Richard Harding is his name and he's a really nice guy.  I saw
him at my first DMB show a little over a year ago, but Tuesday was the first
time I met him.  He also like to play with various bands out in his
residence of California, so if your on the west coast, keep an eye out.

-------------------------------------------------------

Kristin Asbury:  Kristin sings with Alma Madre, which is a band that formed
from members of Indecision, as well as with C-ville All Stars, which
you may know to usually include Leroi, Boyd, and Carter.  When Kristin
sits in with DMB, you can usually expect to hear a kick ass Angel From
Montgomery.
------------------------------------------------

Doug Wannamaker: Doug is a former member of Indecision who helped form
Alma Madre.  He plays Hammond organ, and he plays it well.  That's 
all we know at this point, so if you want to plug him any, send me (rick) 
a note.



____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:55 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: the minarets.net frequently asked questions file, pt II

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                 SECTION C:   MUSIC QUESTIONS
========================================================================
C-1: What cd's are available by the Dave Matthews Band?
the band put out it's first cd on Nov 9, 1993 entitled Remember Two 
Things with the following songs on it:

Ants Marching/Tripping Billies/Recently/Satellite/One Sweet World/The Song
That Jane Likes/Minarets/Seek Up/I'll Back You Up/Christmas Song.

The only studio cuts on this cd were Minarets and Seek Up.  The rest were
recorded live at TRAX in Charlottesville, the Flood Zone in Richmond, and
The Muse in Nantucket, RI.  The cd was produced by John Alagia (who also
has a musical act of his own called Derryberry and Alagia, and can be seen
in the DC area).
Tim Reynolds can be heard on Minarets, Seek Up, I'll Back You Up, and 
Christmas Song, and Greg Howard can be heard on Minarets.


In early spring of 1994, the band put out an ep which had the following:
Recently (radio edit)
Warehouse (acoustic, recorded live at the Birchmere)
Dancing Nancies (same)
All Along the Watchtower (recorded live at TRAX on 2-22-94)
Halloween (same)

To the best of my knowledge, this cd is still available through bama rags
records.

On Sep 27, 1994, the band put out its first major label release (RCA), 
entitled Under the Table and Dreaming.  You can find these songs on it:
Best of What's Around/What Would You Say/Satellite/Rhyme and Reason/
Typical Situation/Dancing Nancies/Ants Marching/Lover Lay Down/Jimithing/
Warehouse/Pay for What You Get/#34

you can hear Tim Reynolds on each and every one of these songs.  The 
reason behind the repitition of Satellite and Ants Marching on both
full length cd's remains a mystery to the entirety of Minarets.net.

-If your local store doesn't know about DMB, you can order the disk and/or
poster directly from Bama Rags Records at (804) 979-9695. However, it will be
much appreciated (even if you order direct) if you'll tell your local stores
about the band and ask them to get some copies to sell. They can call Bama
Rags directly to do so.

--------------------------------------------
C-2. #34
#34 is a very beautiful, very laid back ballad that seems very reminescent
to Satellite.  Dave wrote the song in memory of Miguel Valdez who used to
jam with the band on a regular basis.  Miguel, who was a member of Afrikan
Drum Fest, died in the spring or early summer of 1993. (see q. B5)
---------------------------------------------
C-3. #36
#36 is a total funkin' jam fest.  It's about a slain South African member
of the anti-apartheid movement by the name of Chris Hani.  No two versions
of the song are alike, and Dave seems particularly fond of the song.  He
also really likes to see his audience groove to this song, so be prepared
to dance.
------------------------------------
C-4: Dancing Nancies quotes:
Here are some of the more provacative and interesting introduction
quotes to dancing nancies:
"Could I have been... the king of diarhea?"  
     11-9-93 TRAX, c-ville va
"Could I have been... mugged somewhere in Norfolk?"
     11-26-93 Peppermint Beach Club, Va Beach Va

>From Ben Sterling:
    3/26/94 Irving Plaza NY, NY

could i have been... parking lot attendant
could i have been... a taxi driver and washing (in washing[ton]?)
could i have been... lost in the big bad city
could i have been... your little brother
could i have been... anyone other than me?

    12/31/93 Richmond Marriott Richmond, VA

could i have been... parking lot attendant
could i have been... a millionaire somewhere
could i have been... lost in a crowd of a thousand
could i have been... your little sister

from Rich Prisinzano
hey just thought i would post what i have so far in the what dave could have
been category....... i know there has to be more out there....

a parking lot attendant
his little brother...
a policeman Va. Beach.....
mugged somewhere in Norfolk (while playing in Va. Beach, Norfolk area)
the president with diarrea...
your little sister....
doctor, spreading good....
wating at your door step...
Caught in public in my underwear???
Bartending at Millers???
Oh so embarrassed???
A millionaire in Bel Aire
grease man from richmond
a whore, give my your money, your money
could i have been... parking lot attendant
could i have been... taxi driver and washing (confusing line...
                     maybe it's taxi driver in washing[ton])
could i have been... lost in the big bad city
could i have been... anyone other than me
"could I have been, a born-again Christian...could I have been, oh, they're
all pain-in-the-asses..."

at providence, RI, oct 10, 1994:
could i have been, lost somewhere in providence
                    
---------------------------------------------
C-5.  Halloween?
The question mark is a key factor here.  Everyone has a different 
interpretation of Halloween Song, but one thing is for sure: it's
a love song.  But it also seems to be a hate song.  
According to Chris Tetselli of Red Light Management, the 
officially published lyrics would be:
   Love....
   Love....
   Love....
   Love....
Make your own guesses....or maybe just zone into the music and enjoy.
----------------------------------------------
C-6: What's Tripping Billies all about?
Dave has described during a couple of shows that Tripping Billies is
about a late evening on a South Afican beach.  Turns out that Dave had
done a little too much of a particular substance that's controlled here
in the U.S. (and in South Africa, i suppose) and was lying out on the
beach on a beach towel.  When a police officer (referred to as billies
in some english speaking countries such as Australia and England) 
approached Dave, he handed the towel over to the officer with the mistaken
impression that he was handing a loaded gun over to the officer.  

Didn't yer mom ever tell you to stay away from drugs?? :):):):)
----------------------------------------------
C-7.  What songs have the band covered?
This is the current list of the songs that the band has covered
in the past:
All Along the Watchtower    Jimi Hendrix
2001/dueling banjos jam (always as an intro to Ants Marching)
Angel From Montgomery       John Prine
The Redemption Song         Bob Marley
Exodus                      Bob Marley
Nature                      The Samples
The Eyes of the Maker       Daniel Lanois  (hasn't been done since Peter left)
Me & Julio                  Paul Simon
Sweet Home Alabama          Lynyrd Skynyrd (also an Ants Marching intro)
Sympathy for the Devil      Stones
Tangerine                   Zeppelin

==============================================
C-8: how come they don't play <?> anymore?
a: People, People:
this rather obscure song was written by former keyboardist Peter 
Griesar (q. B3), and when he left, Dave didn't feel appropriate
playing the song anymore.  Dave has, however, said that he would
like to see the song appear on a cd someday.
b:  So Much to Say
consensus has it that this song lost so much with Peter's exit that
Dave found problems playing it, too.  It had fairly extensive keys
in the chorus and was usually introduced with a fairly rippin' harmonica
solo by Peter.
c:  Drive In, Drive Out
This, believe it or not, is one of Dave's favorite tunes.  He's kind of
saving it, as far as i know, for when he's really worked it out into
a song that he's proud of.


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                   SECTION D:  TAPING QUESTIONS
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     Section D: Tape Questions
D1. LIVE RECORDING: can i? what equipment do i need?
D2. TAPES: what REALLY high qual tapes are around? where?
D3. TAPE TREE: what is it? how does it work? should i do one?
D4. TAPELIST: what is it? what's in it? do i need one?
D4B: TRADE: What is a tape trade? how do i get into one?
D4C: BEGINNER tape trades, adopt a phreak, reverse grovels
     Section E: Dubbing hints, suggestions
E4: PATCHING IN etiquette (needs to be answered!!)
E5: DCC and DAT compared and considered
=================================================
**********   SECTION D: TAPE QUESTIONS 
TOPICS: recording, finding tapes, tape trees, tapelists,
abbreviations, dubbing, dolby & dbx.
=================================================
D1. LIVE RECORDING: can i? what equipment do i need?
For the most part, The Dave Matthews Band is very receptive to
taping.  The general way to go about it at this point is to
walk to the front door of the venue and ask permission.  Usually
you will be allowed to, but it's best to arrive early to avoid being
shut out by a preponderance of tapers.  A member of the net was once
promised by the band's soundman that there would always be a sbd feed
of some sort available, but there's no telling whether or not RCA is
going to override this promise.

As far as equipment goes, here's a list:
-a tape deck (duh.)
-you might need an extension cord
-if you have power strip, bring it too
-patch cables
-at least three to four hours of blank tapes.  shows may not last this
 long, but when you take into account flipping tapes and such, your prolly
 going to need the extra
-a pencil and pad
-a pocket flashlight

and most importantly, GET THERE EARLY!!!!!!
==================================================
D2. TAPES: what REALLY high qual tapes are around? where?
{In Phish.faq.file, this questions serves the purpose of      }
{telling what really great show are on tape, and circulating. }
{With the current status of DMB tapes being very vague, this  }
{question is currently unanswered.  If you can suggest a      }
{specific show to add to this list, send to Rick Thompson     }
{stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu.                               }
Some particular shows to keep an eye out for are van Ryper's 92,
11-17-92/TRAX, 3-23-93/TRAX, and 10-26-93/TRAX.

Blake Campbell is currently working on the Warehouse, which will
serve as the minarets.net's setlist file.  someone also volunteered
recently to put together a file specifically geered towards answering 
this question.

=================================================
D-3: TAPE TREE: what is it? how does it work? should i do one?
Note: send tree-pholk list info to Gregg at
STU_GJCARRIE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
|From Lee Silverman  <ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu>:  A Tape Tree is
a way of distributing a popular tape to a large number of people.
 By using a tape tree, rather than having one person make 75
copies of a tape, everyone gets their tapes faster & there's much
less work involved for the owner of the tapes.
  The basic Premise is this:  I have a tape that everyone wants.
So I post to the net, saying that I'm running a tree.  In that
post I include a form for people to fill out & send back to me.
(most  of the info on these forms gets used, so always fill out
the whole thing) After about a week of waiting, I compile all the
replies into a "tree," where I arrange to make copies for 5 or so
people. Each of those 5 people is given a list of 5 other people
whom they are to make tapes for.  Each of them makes copies for 5
people, & so on depending on how big the tree is.
  Usually the people who are higher up in trees are the people
with the best taping equipment, so the tapes lose less of their
sound quality.  If you are on a tree you have one or two
responsibilities:  The first is to get the tapes (this applies to
everyone).  You do this by either sending blanks to, or trading
with, the person above you.  (Whether you send blanks or trade
generally has little to do with your placement within the tree).
The second responsibility you *may* have will be to copy the
tapes for a certain number of other people.  They may either
trade with you or just send blanks.  At that point your role in
the tree has been fulfilled.
   If you want specific info on how to set up a tree, write Lee
<Pandion@Brown.edu> for some suggestions.

{Phish specific material deleted}

     Other things to consider:  1) Like it or not, there are some
slackers on the net; expect that there may some problems, and
that no tree will run perfectly smoothly, then be ready to patch
lost branches to parents with a small burden.  2) Try to make
your tree run well anyway, to preserve netiquette and tape
quality, not to mention trust and credibility of and on the net
process. Lee and Ellis are willing to give suggestions, at least,
if not administrative help.  3) Running a tree does involve some
time, not only to create the tree -- which itself could involve
assimilation and organization of a hundred or more names and
addresses, and being sure that those addresses and the tree links
get hooked to the right people -- but to make tapes for the
branches, settle any problems that arise, deal with orphaned
leaves, etc.  Remember, there is a difference between the person
administrating, the person rooting, and the person seeding the
tree. 4) The tree administrator is not the only person with
responsibilities; as Lee said, everyone on the tree is
responsible for his sections, and may at some point be asked to
help out with stragglers, orphans, and late comers; there is no
pressure, but there will be requests.  5) If you have a great
tape(s) but not the experience, time, understanding, or interets
to run a tree, you could ROOT your tapes to someone who IS ready
to run the tree.  Just post a note to the net (mail to
phish@phish.net) with the subject "Need Adm for <date> tree".
==================================================
D-4: TAPELIST: what is it? what's in it? do i need one?
     A tapelist gives relevant info about boots you have.
     A tapelist is useful for two reasons: to let you keep up
with what you have (which assumes that you have more than a
handful of boots) & to make it easier to let others see what you
have (which assumes that you might one day be interested in
trading for other tapes.)  That is, even if you dont think one of
these items is useful to have on your list, you ought to at least
be able to give the relevant info on any particular tape.
     There is no consensus on form, order, or meaning (esp
generation determination); Ellis tried very hard to find one.
BTW, number gens how you want & be prepared to explain your
standarization; there is no *right* answer.  But, important info
for each tape might include any or all of the following:
band/performer [mostly phish, of course:)], date, set(s), venue,
location of venue, source (FM broadcast, audience, soundboard,
monitor feed, suzy-Q, studio, board remix), generation (you
define!), whether the original was digital, whether your copy is
on metal, whether your copy has been dolby-ized, some form of
grading (try A, B, C; + or - for hiss & noise; try to be strict,
it'll come to you), & any other comments (eg first {Granny}, only
show with {an acoustic Tripping Billies, etc).
    A note on subjectivity: There is a difference between tape
quality and performance quality. You may want two systems, both
numbered, both lettered, one letters and the other suffixes
(+,-,=,*,etc) or whatever works for you. Just be sure that you
know what it is and that you can decipher it for anyone who asks.

{Phish specific material deleted}

==================================================
D-4B: What is a trade?
You dub a tape & pay for postage; someone else does the same.
(or, you might just send blanks; see D4 and D4C). The two of you
discuss quality, length, choices, whatever you want beforehand, &
mail to each other.  This is the way that most tapes get spread
out across the globe, though most tapes made are probably the
dubs off of trades.  One netter who currently has 160hrs, for
instance, got 140 of those hours by net trade.
| From: Pat Loughery <patlo@microsoft.com> Sep 23 21:09:37 EDT
| 1993
    answers inserted by Ellis of Lemuria
| What's the best way to go about setting up trades with other
| net.phish heads?
    talk to them on email or meet them at shows. you can grovel
or respond to discussion of tapes (but see below), but you can
also just talk with folks about their favorite songs and versions
and shows, on email or irc or the phone or in lots at shows, and
eventually you'll run into the knowledge of someone's having
something you want. thats much better than just copying
everything you can get your hands on.
| I've arranged a half-dozen or so trades mostly by responding to
| posted grovels, but how do the "old-timers" in this group go
| about it?
    many people have known each other for months or even years
through the net and just get in contact every now and then to
trade lists again. keep track of with whom you trade and check in
with them again in 4, 6, or 8 months. You'll be surprised!
| Do you just pick out somebody at random and send them mail
| soliciting a trade?  That seems almost rude, but how do you
| run into more experienced folks with big tapelists other than
| through pure chance?  Picking up specific shows seems as easy
| as waiting for somebody to mention that they have it, or
| posting a specific request, but what if I just want more live
| {DMB} in general?
    You can just send a request for that show if you want, but if
it's old, very recent, rare, or good quality... actually, with
just about any tape given the current size of the net, there are
bound to be many others doing the same thing.  If every mention
of a tape gets mail responses of 30 requests for that tape, the
net is going to see a HUGE loss of discussions of tapes people
have. That is, if netiquette cant keep up with growth of the net,
the net is going to experience some qualitative losses.
    If you do it, make an offer in your first mailing, rather
than a general "can I have it" question. Send your list with a
few suggestions at the top; dont just suggest something, cause if
the person has it, he may ignore your request. Dont expect an
answer immediately, and BY ALL MEANS dont hound for an answer;
even that takes time. It may not happen the same day or week; may
take two weeks, but after that you should try again or forget it.
================================================
D-4C: How can a beginner get tapes?
Sometimes, it seems hard to get something from nothing, but
you've got a few things going for you. First of all, the
generosity of folks on the net.  Watch the net for periodic
"beginner tape offers" and "reverse tape grovels." Details
relevant to each are usually explained with the posting. It might
involve trading, but will probably just require you to send money
or blanks and postage. There's also the possibility to be a leaf
on a tree even if you dont have tapes; in fact, that's a great
place to be on a tree!
And, hey! If you have many tapes (over 50? 100!? 200!?!) post a
message and offer this service to the first five, ten, or fifteen
folks that respond. Have them send you blanks and tape some of
your best for them! You'll be glad you did!

{Phish specific material deleted}

=======================================================

**********   SECTION E: TAPE QUESTIONS 
TOPICS:  patching in and the differences between dat
         and dcc.
=======================================================
In general netiquette trading terms, the following seem
standards, or at least safe bases for order: Mail cassette cases
unless you've agreed otherwise. Don't use dolby unless you've
agreed otherwise (since it cant be undone). Write on the back of
the cassette labels slip unless you've mentioned or asked about
writing on the J-cards. Knock out tabs after recording.  And
REUSE YOUR MAILING ENVELOPES!! Them suckers take up landfill
space like... well... something voluminous!
=======================================================

{*****DUE to the technicality of sections E-1 through E-4 of the     }
{     Phish.FAQ, I've decided not to include it here.  If you are    }
{     interested in learning more about this topic(levels, azimuth   }
{     adjustment, and dolby specifics), the Phish.FAQ can be         }
{     requested at phish-archives@phish.net                          }
{                                   -Rick                            }

{Question E-4 is a more or less Phish specific question, but the     }
{ethics of the question do apply to taping the Dave Matthews Band.   }
{Please send your answers/suggestions directly to                    }
{Ellis of Lemuria, jeg5s@virginia.edu.                               }

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E-4: PATCHING IN etiquette (not answered yet)
We need input from tapers (to jeg5s@virginia.edu) to construct an
answer to this.  I realize that there are enormous demands, and
far too little thanks, laid at the feet of tapers, but I also
realize that many of them, at one time or another, have only been
able to patch in. So... what's ok?
From: Pat Loughery <patlo@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu Sep 23 21:09:37 EDT 1993
|I'm considering the purchase of a DAT deck to tape at Phish and
|other shows, now that I've realized how fun it is to have live
|music around the house.  What's the etiquette involved in
|patching into somebody else's deck who has a better setup than
|you?  Or into a soundboard?  Is it considered appropriate only to
|patch into somebody that you know, or can you just go up to a
|random taper or soundboard guy and ask him/her if you can patch
|into his stuff?
=========================================================
E-5: DCC and DAT, compared and considered
From: jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Jens Rodenberg)
Subject: Re: New DAT Format Question
Date: Mon Oct 11 14:49:11 EDT 1993
SBGOND@BNLDAG.AGS.BNL.GOV (JOHN-SONDERICKER) writes:
|       Hey has anybody used or bought the new digital tape
| format type decks?  [some text deleted...]  Does this deck
| sound as good as a DAT?
I think it may be time for a new FAQ entry... :-)
Both DCC (Digital Compact Cassette by Philips) and MD (Mini Disc
by Sony)  use a lossy compression method.  Not all of the
original signal will be retained when making copies onto DCC or
MD.  Whether or not it is audibly noticeable may depend on many
things, such as the compression and decompression algorithms, the
audio equipment, or the listener.  The music is also likely to
deteriorate as it goes through multiple generations.  For a
digital format, I believe that this is totally unacceptable.
Quality of good music should not be sacrificed when not
necessary.  At the moment, DAT is the only format (besides PCM
which is somewhat obsolete now) that allows accurate digital
reproduction at a reasonable price, and I recommend DAT over DCC
or MD.  The prices of DAT decks and tapes are generally
comparable or cheaper than DCC or MD, and either (or both) DCC or
MD will probably die out soon.  As Philips has recently said in a
DCC ad: "Your music will never be the same!"  I couldn't have
said that better myself!  Go DAT!!! 
|Are DAT decks soon to be a thing of the past?
Soon?  No- DAT is entrenched in the professional and high-end
consumer market.  Eventually?  Yes- once mass storage technology
drastically improves.  That should take a while though, so don't
put off buying a DAT deck waiting for that...         Jens
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Posted By: jtv2j@sunipc-10.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 9:05 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Re: i little ploy to get a song played...

I'm personally expecting a Drive in, drive out to show up soon,
especially since Dave and Carter soundchecked it at the UVa
Ampitheatre (It's kind of like they did bring it back for me
having heard him play it this month)  
However, his reluctancy to keep So Much to Say in the rotation
after he played it on the 25/26 Feb shows makes me think it's not
likely to show up for a while.  But, since this is all theory anyway,
I'll bet you we see it again long before we see Spotlight (or some
variation on spotlight) come back...

But, I'll be hoping for both, every show I'm at.... 
(Who wants them to play everything I love when I'm NOT there?? ;)


john


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:PMEA8678@URIACC.URI.EDU
Time/Date: 9:43 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 312

Ok,Since I was the one who posted the review of the Providence show
I thought I'd clear some things up.Before "Get in Line"Dave seemed to
be playing the progression in front of Carter to show him the rythym.
Stephan was there all the way and it seemed like Boyd was in and out with some
plucking.Leroi just stood there motionless until he ripped a nice little
solo at the end.The tune was pretty fast with fairly clear words
that had the title in their somewhere.This is the title since Dave
notified us before it began.As for "Cry Freedom Cry" everyone did do something
and the words did seem the same as the only version I have of
this.It was incredible and the crowd was completely silent as it seemed
like I was the only one that knew what was going on.(Even the Tapers)Dave
didn't say anything about it which made it all the better.
#36 Dave said it was written for Chris Hanni but had turned into a song about
love.
                   Hope I could be of some help
                                Pat
P.s.Not to hassle the faq people but "All Along the Watchtower"was
originally written by Bob Dylan.(Jimi Hendrix)


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 10:00 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Re: i little ploy to get a song played...

> so let's see if someone important is paying attention (we've been
> told a couple of times that they are, haven't we?)

> so how's about a drive in, drive out or so much to say?

You're dreaming. 

alex crothers


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 10:13 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Re: From Good Homes

The name of the record label is " GRRRrrrr Records" and can be reached at 
212-334-0015.  It also says to ask for Jane.

      I saw them for the fist time at the Charlottesville UTTAD kickoff show.
I didn't know they were opening till I got to UVA that day.  What a 
pleasant surprise!


Posted By: IBASSIN@WESLEYAN.BITNET
Time/Date: 11:05 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Northamton Tix

Does anyone have an extra and/or a ride to Northampton from Middletown, Ct?
If yes, please call me at 203-685-5224 so we can go see Dave.
 
Also, the song that I have listed as "Friendship Song" is this the real name?
Was it a regularly played song early on? Did Dave write it? It has a sort
of inaudible chorus with the line, "We'll meet again" It's in Set II of 3/23/93.
Thanks, Ian


Posted By: dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 11:24 PM Monday, October 10, 1994
Subject: Tripping Ants

Fellow Davers,
        Does anyone other than me think that Tripping Billies would go
perfectly after Ants Marching?    Tripping ends on the second chord of
Ants.   I think I would just about lose all control of my senses if they
segwayed (is that a word?!) the two.

Thoughts?

-Dominic
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   listen to dave.    read.    play disc.    type.    
listen to dave.    write.    type.    play disc.    sleep.   eat?
talk about dave.    sleep.    write.    read about dave.    sleep.
eat.    listen to dave.    read.    sleep?

repeat until what you see is human screaming from the Minarets...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dominic Sagolla '96        dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu          
Swarthmore College         dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu                   
                        Swarthmore, PA 19081      
sagolla@sccs.swarthmore.edu


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 12:08 AM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: All you guitar type players out there..

I have been trying to play christmas song and I'll back you up for a long 
time now... I have the basic chords to both down.. I just can't get the 
little intricacies in between chord changes..If anyone can play either of 
these songs WITH all of the little picking similes then can you PLEASE 
PLEASE tab them up for me? You never know when I might be able to return 
a favor.
Thanks.


Posted By: ZINN@CALVIN.COVENANT.EDU
Time/Date: 10:32 AM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: thanx brett

Brett, I just read your comment on Boyd.  Thanx.  Good Points
'nuff said.


Posted By: HFEJP@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu
Time/Date: 12:14 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: UTTAD, Deep in the Heart of Texas

FYI for those who are interested in such things:  The Austin, Texas Tower
Records reports that Under the Table and Dreaming is "Selling out of control"
in this land of country line dancing.  It is on their Top 25 for the second
week in a row, right behind Boyz II Men.  It is currently selling better than
Blues Traveler, Rusted Root, and Big Head Todd (but not REM of course).  This
buying frenzy seems to be feuled almost exclusively by word of mouth, since
Dave and the boys have yet to venture to the Lone Star State, and they have
recieved no press coverage down here as far as I've seen.

News like this makes me happy.

Beth.


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:00 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: Cry Freedom/#36/New Tune/General Happiness

Oh joy!  I am extremely pleased now.  Too bad Dave couldn't get out of his
rut in time for the Roseland show.

Things ben is happy about:

a) best doesn't open the show (i guess it's a given that they'll play it)

b) cry freedom (oh god i can't believe it)

c) new tune, even if i haven't heard it... yet

d) #36 awakens

e) granny (yippee skippy!)

f) jane, even if it will never be more than 4 minutes

Oh this is so heartening... i was getting scared for a few weeks.

sorry to be a bandwith-maven, especially since we're getting 30+ posts a day,
but I just can't sit here bouncing in my chair all day...

happiness and bells for all,
Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*             "hold onto nothing               *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*             as fast as you can"              * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                   -Tori Amos                 *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:36 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: Re: i little ploy to get a song played...

My hero Rick Thompson <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> says:

>kinda neat how cry freedom was played merely two days after it was 
>mentioned on the net.  now i have to go change the faq, and i haven't

yeah... purty cool.  HEY GUYS DAVE READS THE NET, I HAVE HIS ADDRESS!
obviously someone affiliated w/ the band got word of our bitchings.

>so how's about a drive in, drive out or so much to say?

well, while we're reaching, why not bring back People, People? What a
superawesome song, and it could be done w/o peter. wowzers.  I love that
song.

But back on earth, why not a simple request for the speedy return of
Spotlight: The Revamp.

But I'd settle for Drive In, Drive Out, but only with a really long jam in
the middle.

>(here's hopin'....)

damn straight.

and lets all give rick a big thankyou for being so nifty with the FAQ.

ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*             "hold onto nothing               *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*             as fast as you can"              * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                   -Tori Amos                 *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: sklainer@Emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 5:34 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: DMB show tonight

Help someone near Boston who by a sheer miracle will possibly read this 
in time...I need a ride to tonight's sold out show in Northampton.  I 
have my name and the name of my friend who backed out on the guest list, 
so if you get me there you would get in for free, plus backstage because 
I have pictures of the band to give to them that they are  expecting.  
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPP.
call Jen at (617)629-8688


Posted By: KAPLANJF@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU
Time/Date: 6:09 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: Trading tapes...

Hello all of you Dave Matthews Band fans!...I recently got my first DMB concert
tape...I have all of their official releases...Anyways...This tape is of a 
concert that the DMB played at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC this past 
spring...I would like to trade tapes with someone such that I can increase
my collection of DMB concert tapes...If anyone is interested, could you please
e-mail me...Thanks!!

					Enjoy,
					Jeff


Posted By: sfrazier
Time/Date: 6:09 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: "Nature"

	This is my first post so please excuse me if I do something 
wrong. I just received the FAQ file and saw that DMB has covered the 
Samples "Nature". Has anyone heard this? How was it? Does anyone have a 
copy of it? I'm dying to hear about it. Another question. I've heard that 
the Miguel Valdez Benefit show was a great show. Does anyone know what 
they played or where I could find a copy? Any help is greatly appreciated. 
Thanks so much.
		Scott


Posted By: JPETERS@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU
Time/Date: 7:55 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: Hey Rick! I made it!

	Let me start this out with the disclamer that this is my first posting
and I don't want to pontificate, but there's a little something that's been
puzzling to me since Remember Two Things came out.  In the liner notes they
printed that some (does anyone know how many and which ones) songs were
recorded live at The Muse in Nantucket, RI.  I'm not sure who messed this up
but The Muse and Nantucket are in Massachusettes, not Rhode Island.  I caught
the band's three shows there this summer (aug. 1-3) and Dave even mentioned the
fact that they'd recorded a few of the tunes on the album "in this very room." 
Someone might want to look into that little error.
	I'll end this by saying hello to Rick.  Thanks for the instructions on
how to subscribe and here's a new "could I have.." for you:

could I have been...a lifeguard on the seashore, Nantucket? 
						<the muse, nantucket 8-2-94>
				jeff peters


Posted By: jnelson@abacus.bates.edu
Time/Date: 8:47 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: GET ME OUT!

Does anyone know how to cancel this thing?
DMB is great and all, but I am receiving a little more info than I had
anticipated!
Any help would be greatly appreciated!


Posted By: dlc@well.sf.ca.us
Time/Date: 10:28 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: tape trade

Just got in a pretty nice DMB board, it's from Zollmans Pavilion, Lexington
5/31/93.  If anyone wants a copy, I'll trade it for another good quality DMB
tape with first few people who respond.  It fits on one 90 min tape.
Setlist:Recently, Grannie, True Reflection, Seek Up, Lie In Our Graves, 
Ants Marching, Satellite, #34, Minarets
Doug


Posted By: kill6818@uwwvax.uww.edu
Time/Date: 10:49 PM Tuesday, October 11, 1994
Subject: minarets

First timer here.  Just got hooked up with DMB through the BT net and I wonder
how I ever survived without listening to them before.  Anyways, on to the 
reason of this post...I heard a rumor that DMB will be in Madison,WI with
Rusted Root on the 27th of October...any truth to this?  Also, what's the
ticket situation?  I guess it's at the Barrymore-I usually buy tix at the 
door there but I don't want to miss out on this one.  Any info would be great.
      
                                                   Jeff Killberg
                                                   UW Whitewater
                                              KILL6818@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU
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Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:PMEA8678@URIACC.URI.EDU
Time/Date: 12:28 AM Wednesday, Octber 12, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 313

I'm just posting(again) to apologize for what wrote in
digest 313. I wrote about the Providence show's Cry Freedom
that it was like no one knew what was going on. Obviously
I worded that wrong and there were people there who knew
what was being played. I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

                                     Pat Meagher


Posted By: MEDICUS@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
Time/Date: 12:34 AM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: tapes and dates

hello.  i have a problem that i know someone out there can help me with, i
would like to obtain bootlegs.  i am willing to trade, but i don't have any dmb
 yet.  i do have an extensive and quality collection of phish and the dead.  i
would love to trade these for any, but hopefully quality, dmb.  i am also inter
ested in obtaining some everything tapes.  i went to their last show at the old
traxx, i think it was on july 13 or 14.  if anyone knows of a copy of the show
please let me know.  basically i just want to trade for dmb with some of what i
 already have.  e mail me personaly and i promise good quality tapes.
 help me,
 mark d


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:09 AM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: freindship song and people people

damn.  my subject lines are too pragmatic.  i should take lessons from
clare.

anyway, freindship song is nothing more (or maybe nothing less) than
#34 with lyrics.  i liked it better that way.

and people, people was written by peter.  i personally think it would
sound incredible on 1)dave's chet 2)a nice grand piano.

at any rate, i wouldn't be surprised if we see it appear on a cd, but
never see them play it, just because dave doesn't want to leave peter
out.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 9:57 AM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Re: friendship song

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, SHUT UP! i'm thinking... wrote:

> anyway, freindship song is nothing more (or maybe nothing less) than
> #34 with lyrics.  i liked it better that way.

I've been known to call that "Cry About It" or just plain "#34".  Is this 
a mistake on my part or is Friendship Song one of those Haiku deals-- 
made up by us and not recognized by the band?

> and people, people was written by peter.  i personally think it would
> sound incredible on 1)dave's chet 2)a nice grand piano.

What are the lyrics to YEM?


--Ben


Posted By: acarena
Time/Date: 11:34 AM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: 10/5/94 Montreal setlist???

it's been a week since the show and i haven't seen the setlist posted. 
if anybody has it, could you email me or post it to the net? 
if it's already been posted, i'm sorry. i must have missed it. 
thanks in advance,
alexis


Posted By: ian@lamar.ColoState.EDU
Time/Date: 11:35 AM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Newbie Grovel

Hey,
I am in need of DMB. I picked up UTTAD about a week ago and have not been
able to put it down. I have about 100 hrs of Dead, phish, etc but I
am without access to a deck. So I am grovelling :(. If anyone would be 
willing to help me out, I'd be happy to send blanks, postage, max points,
kharma, and an agreement that once I get a hold of my deck again I'll
copy whatever you want off of my list for nothing. Thanks,

Ian "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" Hogan

ian@lamar.colostate.edu


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 11:39 AM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Re: tape trade

On Tue, 11 Oct 1994, Douglas Cowen wrote:

> Just got in a pretty nice DMB board, it's from Zollmans Pavilion, Lexington
> 5/31/93.  If anyone wants a copy, I'll trade it for another good quality DMB
> tape with first few people who respond.  It fits on one 90 min tape.
> Setlist:Recently, Grannie, True Reflection, Seek Up, Lie In Our Graves, 
> Ants Marching, Satellite, #34, Minarets
> Doug
> 
Doug- It seems to me that what you've got there is the first set of that 
show, with some filler after the Ants closer. Does anyone else out there 
have this show and can verify this for me? I know there was a second set- 
maybe I'm missing a few songs on the first set?
				-Adam


Posted By: MCGLJ@vax.rhodes.edu
Time/Date: 12:15 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: bootlegs

Can somebody out there help me?  I am in search of some bootlegs.  
I don't have any to offer a trade on, but I would be willing to 
sacrifice my first-born or give you money, which ever you prefer.  
Please, someone get in touch with me.  I am not picky about where 
they were recorded, but I would like one with dancing nancies and 
#34 in the setlist, if possible.
HELP PLEASE!!!!
mcglj@vax.rhodes.edu


Posted By: cbruner@s850.mwc.edu
Time/Date: 2:35 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: ???????????????????????????????????

to whom ever is interested in what I have to say:

I have been on the net for quite some time but have never posted anything 
before.  What i'm trying to say is that if I sound like an idiot, please 
forgive me.  I would never try and deliberately offend any fellow DMB 
fans.   I don't have a lot to say but I do have a question.  Everyone 
always talks about Dave, and Boyd and others, but how come no one ever 
talks about Stefan??????  I think he is unbelievably cool too.  So if 
anyone wants to answer my question, go ahead.  Oh, does anyone have any 
Rusted Root bootlegs that perchance I could maybe get a copy of?  Thanks 
a bunch.
Carrie Suzanne Bruner
( a lowly freshman at Mary Washington College in Fredericksburg, 
Virginia  in case anyone had an overwhelming desire to know that!)


Posted By: Jeffrey.Brian.Rinna@um.cc.umich.edu
Time/Date: 2:56 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: DMB Bootlegs

Hey!  All you crazy Dave fans that want some Bootlegs, I may have what you 
need.  Send me a message and I will definitely try to share the wealth.  If 
anybody is going to be at the show this weekend with Phish or at the 
Nashville show, I might be able to get them to you personally.  Does anybody 
have the SuperJam Bootleg?  I was there but don't really remember to much of 
the show, although I remember how pissed I was when Widespread got rained 
out.  Last but not least, anybody who wants to make it up for the Michigan 
Show can probably score some tickets.  Let me know and I will be happy to 
include you in our pre-party festivities.  It's going to get a little wild! 
																																														Jeff 


Posted By: SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:59 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: the roi boy

Does anybody out there agree with me that the best Dave shows
are when Roi is whaling and ripping through his solos. I feel
he is the emotional barometer for the band. Boyd is always
animated, so that's a given. Stefan is always lifeless (no
offense), Carter is always solid, and Dave is unpredictable.
But when Roi is making the most of his interludes, he can
make the worst show on paper be the best to be there in
person. Somebody back me.


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:20 PM Wednesday, October 20, 1994
Subject: Re: the roi boy

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994 SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu wrote:

> Does anybody out there agree with me that the best Dave shows
> animated, so that's a given. Stefan is always lifeless (no
> offense), Carter is always solid, and Dave is unpredictable.

| would like to say that Stefan is "subtle"  but I understand

> But when Roi is making the most of his interludes, he can
> make the worst show on paper be the best to be there in
> person. Somebody back me.
> 
Very true, but Roi can also make the best shows on paper the worst live. 
For instance, Lie in Our GRaves is killer when Roi is ripping up a killer 
solo thats in key and top notch, but if Roi is off I usually get through 
the five minute solo by going to the bathroom and attempting to get a beer..
(kinda what satellite is for these days too)

Anyways, very VERY happy to see Cry Freedom ressurected. While nothing 
beats a Dave/Peter version, the full band one is a close second. Anyways
gettin ready for WSP tonite!!!!!
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|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
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Posted By: Robert4192@aol.com
Time/Date: 3:54 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: ABSOLUTELY NO DMB!

Yes, that's right, I don't have any DMB tapes!  I DO, however, have some
Dead/Phish/etc . . . to offer.  So, if you're interested in trading, let me
know!

Thanks,
Robert Simpson


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 4:08 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Hey all--

two questions:



1) what are the two things dave wants us to remember?


2) what is claire's address?

Thanks
Kristin


Posted By: ksexton@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu
Time/Date: 4:17 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Dave Matthews: master servant (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 94 12:25:32 CDT
From:U11803@UICVM.UIC.EDU
To: kathy sexton <ksexton@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Dave Matthews: master servant

this is a question to the legion of so called supporters of Dave Matthews and
his supporting cast.  Dave Matthews is one of the best guitarrists that has
ever taken stage in any land and yet there is something bothering about him.
may it be that possesses such a talent and uses it to try to get laid all the
time?  One of his better songs, HALLOWEEN, which by the way sounds like shit on
that over-priced ep he put out a while back, is superb because it's so dark and
evil sounding.  This is no happy song and the guitar work, the movement of his
hands shadows this fury of anger.  To ask of Matthews to write only songs of
this nature would be like asking Jesus only to forgive some sinners and not all
Of course he cannot and do that but does he have to write such sappy love
songs?  I am myself a fan of dmb and will be fortunate enough to see him on the
28th at the vic in chicago, but unfortunately I do not look forward to the
audiences love actions to these easy listening songs!

this is the view of the sender not of the fowarder...so any responses, 
please send to that address, not mine.  thanks.


Posted By: frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 4:27 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Halloween show?

I heard a rumor today that DMB is going to play with Blues Traveler on 
Halloween in Boulder, Colorado.  I also heard today that this isn't true.  
So if anybody out there knows what's going on, let me know.

							Thanks,
 				                    Brian Frenkel


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 4:30 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: kiss and hug wherever you go

hi everybody.... clare's in a great mood... great great great mood...
lessee, christopher (cjs), thnx.... i got natasha's mail from you today...
 
about stefan... i'll just say stefan is one of the most talented bassists
around... he is not 'lifeless'... and sir buford's ever so tactfull choice of
vocab to describe him as 'sublte' is much more appropriate. the large 'stefan
is the man' (no.. not blake... but stefan...) ensued earlier towards
minarets.net's inception.... and the general consensus of his ability was
reached. on a personal level... stefan is a shy performer. this does not
detract from his musical talent. it just means he doesn't catch your eye the
way that boyd's shit-eating-grin does. watch stefan at a few shows... he rocks
hsi ass of back there by carter... he jams the jam with amazing poise. one on
one.. stefan is animated and exciting... and he'll lead the converrsation...
unlike what some would think....

ok. what else was i going to say. oh yeah.... nice little ditty in our school
paper (not the ur paper.. i dont' go to ur.. the vatech paper... the CT) it has
this quote that i thought i'd share with you all..... hit delete now if you
don't give a flying fuck.... [it's a promo for disc jokey and UTTAD]
 ' THE DAVE MATTHEWS story has been growing for the past three yars. But, with
teh release of their spectacular RCA debut album, UTTAD, you can expect an even
greater uproar.  Dave Matthews has teamed with a galaxy of local jazz stars
Carter Beauford, Stefan Lessard, LeRoi Moore and Boyd Tinsley to give us a
sparkling, and original, mix of acoustic songwriting and jazz instrumentation. 
Dave Matthews Band has teamed with award-winning producer Steve Lillywhite
(whose credits include U2 and XTC) to give UTTAD an even more exciting appeal
to their mushrooming base of fans.  Once you hear this special music by these
supremely talented artists, you, too, will echo the comments of one music
critic who said, "If you can sit still listening to this band live, you've
missed your funeral........." '

so here i give it to you..... this little burb.... 
here's the topic: mushrooming base of fans, and blake stealing clare's hat that
                  stefan gave to her.
DISCUSS!

oh.. keep those articles coming.... this file is booming and rocking and what's
happening so far is only foreplay....

everybody..... next time you give someone a hug.. let them be the first to let
go.... 
LET THE WORLD UNITE THROUGH SPOONING!!!
clare 'has she really lost her mind' emily 
ps- nice to meet you kerry... dont' be a stranger....

*******************************************************************************
we should have eachother to tea... we should have eachother with cream... then
cuddle up by the fire, and sleep for awhile, it's the grooviest thing, it's the
perfect dream.... thecure....

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SLB94004@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Time/Date: 4:35 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Searching for tapes

Hey DMB fans!
      I am a beginning collector of DMB boots.  If anyone is willing to tape me
some shows, I will gladly send you tapes, etc.  I'm looking for old and new
shows.  I would also like one or more with songs that he no longer plays. If
anyone can help me it will be greatly appreciated. THANKS!! Please mail me and
let me know.
                                       Peace,
                                           SB


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 4:42 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: 'join the team that's building a vision!'

re: kristin's post>>>>>>>

1. remember two things..... straight from dave's mouth (if you just HAVE to
   know the date of the show.. get in touch with me...)
   'love your mother and leave only footprints.  i think dr.seuss said that'

2. my address is as below... 

hugs to all... love and splendor...
clare emily

*******************************************************************************
we should have eachother to tea... we should have eachother with cream... then
cuddle up by the fire, and sleep for awhile, it's the grooviest thing, it's the
perfect dream.... thecure....

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: jtv2j@server.cs.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 4:47 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Re: Hey all--

>>>>> "KEP" == KEP  <peterke3@wfu.edu> writes:

    KEP> two questions: 1) what are the two things dave wants us to
    KEP> remember?

	Always love your mother, and always leave footprints.

    KEP> 2) what is claire's address?

	No clue.

    KEP> Thanks Kristin


Posted By: azi6603@email.unc.edu
Time/Date: 4:48 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Re: tape trade

doug, i have the zollman's show and you have the first set with some 
other stuff after ants. the second set has pay for what you get, tripping 
billies, jimmy thing, typical, jane,warehouse, and halloween. just wanted 
to write and let you know what you have and what you're missing. let me 
know if you want to trade. i'd be more than happy to help you out. alexis.

On Tue, 11 Oct 1994, Douglas Cowen wrote:

> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:33:35 -0400
> From: Douglas Cowen <dlc@well.sf.ca.us>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
> Subject: tape trade
> 
> Just got in a pretty nice DMB board, it's from Zollmans Pavilion, Lexington
> 5/31/93.  If anyone wants a copy, I'll trade it for another good quality DMB
> tape with first few people who respond.  It fits on one 90 min tape.
> Setlist:Recently, Grannie, True Reflection, Seek Up, Lie In Our Graves, 
> Ants Marching, Satellite, #34, Minarets
> Doug
>


Posted By: PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 7:37 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: could i have been

A bit late perhaps, since the faq is done, but how about these from a boot
(unknown exact date) from when Peter was in the band...

	...a money magnet...lover of many....one construction worker...
	...king of England....a little(?) mother....my own sweetheart...
	...a world-known(?) wrestler...or a dancing nancy(obviously)

and, by the way...looking for a boot of July 28, Irving Plaza NY (1994)...
just 'cause I was there and the energy level was abnormally high even for
a Dave show...will trade/send tapes/etc.  Thanks.

Greg...........  PARISIGRE@URVAX.URICH.EDU


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 7:46 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Re: Hey all--

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, KEP wrote:

> two questions:
> 
> 
> 
> 1) what are the two things dave wants us to remember?
> 

Well- I think he's said a few different things. My favorite-

"...It's called Remember Two Things, and they're whatever you want them 
to be... Oh yeah, I just remembered the two things- they're 'buy a t- 
shirt, and buy another t-shirt'"

Dave and Boyd had been plugging t-shirts non- stop the whole show. I 
think this is actually the Zollman's show of recent discussion. BTW- I 
clocked the Jimi Thing on that show at 21 minutes. Is that some sort of 
record? Am I the only loser who actually pays attention to these things?

And another thing. With these Phish/ DMB shows coming up, I was thinking 
how perfect it would be if Phish played "Uncle Pen" with Boyd. Have they 
ever done this? It seems too perfect. Sorry if this makes no sense to 
non- Phish fans.

And finally- If they bring back Spotlight, they should change that line 
about life is so peachy. There has to be a more lyrical way to phrase that.

			Rambling Again,
			Adam


Posted By: sklainer@Emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 8:44 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Northampton show

Did anyone go to the show?  I haven't heard anything about it...review? 
songlist? If anyone has a copy, please post. Also, if anyone is planning 
of getting a tape of the show with Phish, please let me know. Thanks.


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 9:04 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Peachy, was (Re: Hey all--)

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, Adam Vann (BK 1995) wrote:

> And finally- If they bring back Spotlight, they should change that line 
> about life is so peachy. There has to be a more lyrical way to phrase that.

Well, it's perfect for Friday's GEORGIA Theater show.

> 
> 			Rambling Again,
> 			Adam

Not wishing for it because I won't be there . . .

-Ben


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 9:49 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Re: Hey all--

> how perfect it would be if Phish played "Uncle Pen" with Boyd. 

How about Scent Of A Mule.  Boyd could join in the Fiddler on the Roof 
festivities.

I HATE LASER BEAMS
gray


Posted By: SULLIVANJH@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU
Time/Date: 10:49 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Cancel Me

As soon as you can, cancel me...Too much mail
My address is sullivanjh@rascal.guilford.edu

Thank you very much!!


Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 10:55 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Ignorance is not always bliss

Remembering that there are no stupid questions among friends:

_WHAT_ is spooning?


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 10:58 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Re: Cancel Me

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994 SULLIVANJH@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU wrote:

> As soon as you can, cancel me...Too much mail

am i the only one who thinks this is funny?


Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 11:30 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Cancel Me

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, C. Blake Campbell wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Oct 1994 SULLIVANJH@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU wrote:
> 
> > As soon as you can, cancel me...Too much mail

> am i the only one who thinks this is funny?

no.


Posted By: 74167.3051@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 11:38 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: Producers

Don't get me wrong, I love the new CD.  "Best" has always been my favorite and
it sounds great here.  But the pacing on "Ants" and "Satellite" just don't 
seem right.  And as some have mentioned, Boyd is way too far down in the mix. 


I think John Alagia (producer - "R2T") knows this band well and can get the 
most out of them.  I guess you've got to use an established producer on your 
major label debut, but I'd like to see John get involved again.  

For those of you who are newcomers to the band through "UTTAD", I highly 
recommend "R2T."  It captures the essence of the band that perhaps we may 
never hear again.

Interested in everyone's thoughts...


Posted By: IBASSIN@WESLEYAN.BITNET
Time/Date: 11:53 PM Wednesday, October 12, 1994
Subject: 5/31/93 Zollman

Just wanted to mention that in the second set of that show, the Warehouse
contains short Wild Thing and Louie Louie jams. In case anyone's keeping
score still on the Dave Covers thread. To the person who asked about 7/28/94
- get in touch with me. Does anyone know if Jeff will be giving soundboard
patches for the Opening set at the Phish shows? What was last year's policy?
 
I think I'll go ????? my mind and make me feel better for a short while..
 
(anyone know that damn lyric?!?!? please fill me in)
 
(^ for Clare even though I don't know her..)


Posted By: messierb@ucsub.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 12:11 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 314

Greetings!  I need to know when DMB will be coming to Colorado in the 
near future.  I am in the Boulder area and need to see a show that is not 
21 and up.  That would be a good thing.  I am tired of going to shows and 
having to fight off a roomfull of drunk people.  Last show I saw Dave 
introduced a song, saying it was about sitting back and getting stoned.  
Anyone have any idea what song this is?  Anyways, help with Colorado tour 
dates is needed.

Peace & Out...

Japhy


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:21 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: there's a bluebird in my heart that wants to get out - c.bukowski

today sometime while i was gone, ian wrote:

I think I'll go ????? my mind and make me feel better for a short while..

(anyone know that damn lyric?!?!? please fill me in)

(^ for Clare even though I don't know her..)


?????- perchance, do you mean smoke? can i bum a smoke? can i bum a ---------->
       									.sig?

and something for me? what? huh? 
i wish i knew what i was being given.... ?
yikes.. maybe i do need a smoke..... 

nicotine and spoons for happy spoonmaster sir buford....
cec

'this is not really this is not really happening..... you bet your life it is.'

*******************************************************************************
we should have eachother to tea... we should have eachother with cream... then
cuddle up by the fire, and sleep for awhile, it's the grooviest thing, it's the
perfect dream.... thecure....

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:46 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject:

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, Adam Vann (BK 1995) wrote:
> 
> Dave and Boyd had been plugging t-shirts non- stop the whole show. I 
> think this is actually the Zollman's show of recent discussion. BTW- I 

The album release party was 11/9/93 (i think) and the Zollmans show was 
5/31/93 and the last time Dave played zollmans was around Halloween in 
93, so I don't think that was asked at those shows. (my buzz has created 
som e memory loss at these shows....
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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
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Posted By: pfollow@unix.cc.emory.edu
Time/Date: 1:42 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: Producers

I agree that Boyd's sound isn't as prominent as it is on Remember Two 
Things and the EP; however, I love the distortion he has on his solo on 
Jimi Thing.  
My school's paper, the Emory Wheel, ran a brief article on DMB last 
Friday.  The author was a student.  He spoke highly of the band, and he 
named all of the musicians and their instruments correctly except for 
Leroi, who he said played guitar along with Dave.  Oh well . . . .
      					-Pete


Posted By: chapmans@kenyon.edu
Time/Date: 2:42 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject:

subscribe


Posted By: n41016@cfi.waseda.ac.jp
Time/Date: 3:14 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: grovel, grovel, grovel

	Ok, here goes...
	Hey to y'all Dave Band fans.  Yes, of course I'm a newbie.  Well, saw the  show at Denison (Granville,OH) last Apr., and of course, love the band. Actually saw them in 92 at the FIJI house at Denison, but didn't really remember it (typical freshman)...
	 Anyway, I have one small problem, I've been in Tokyo for the past three months; reading the net for the past two weeks pretty bummed about what I'm missing. As you can guess, not a big opportunity to trade tapes or see Dave in the land of acid jazz, techno, and Mr. Big; for the next year.  I was lucky enough to find UTTAD at a store here, pretty psyched, excellent but need live music.  Anyway, I'm willing to send blank tapes, or even anything one might possibly be interested in from Japan for some tunes. I'm new, and of course, brought nothing to Japan to trade.  So, if anyone with a kind heart is willing to respond, I'd  appreciate it.  If someone could dub the Zollman's show (1/30/93), that would be,,, just swell.

						(not so) Good to be gone,
							Bobby
						n41016@cfi.waseda.ac.jp


Posted By: jtv2j@server.cs.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 5:04 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: UTTAD cover

For those of you running Xwindows, the new album cover makes an
awesome background.  I've scanned it in at 400x400, and its size is 
1084 x 997 (Ie, most people will want to size it down just a bit P-)
The tif is a bit over 3 meg, the gif is a bit over 1/2 a meg.  I'll
convert it to any other form for someone who can't do it themself if
you just ask.  The gif and tif are available on the web on my home
page:   http://uvacs.cs.virginia.edu/~jtv2j/
Anyone want to see Recently or R2T?  I've also been thinking about
scanning in any articles with pix I've found lying around.  Anyway,
let me know what you'd like to see on the web, and if I can get ahold
of it, I'll put it up for anyone to snag.

John


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 8:40 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: grovel, grovel, grovel

> 	 Anyway, I have one small problem, I've been in Tokyo for the past 
>        three months; 
>        I was lucky enough to find UTTAD at a store here, pretty psyched, 
						^^^^^^^^^

Am i reading this right?, there was a copy of UTTAD in a store in JAPAN?!?
Wow.
Enough said.

alex crothers


Posted By: MOTODD@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 10:46 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Cancel me.

Please cancel me.  My address is motodd@davidson.edu.  Thank you.


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:55 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject:

hey here is an update of what dave could have been....
(sorry rick no dates)

a money magnet
lover of many
one construction worker...
king of England
my own sweetheart...
a world-known(?) wrestler
a lifeguard on the seashore, Nantucket? 
lost somewhere in Providence)
a parking lot attendant
his little brother...
a policeman Va. Beach.....
mugged somewhere in Norfolk (while playing in Va. Beach, Norfolk area)
the president with diarrea...
your little sister....
doctor, spreading good....
wating at your door step...
Caught in public in my underwear???
Bartending at Millers???
Oh so embarrassed???
A millionaire in Bel Aire
grease man from richmond
a whore, give my your money, your money
parking lot attendant
taxi driver and washing (confusing line...
maybe it's taxi driver in washing[ton])
lost in the big bad city

"could I have been, a born-again Christian...could I have been, oh, they're
all pain-in-the-asses..."


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 11:55 AM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Sir Buford wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, Adam Vann (BK 1995) wrote:
> > 
> > Dave and Boyd had been plugging t-shirts non- stop the whole show. I 
> > think this is actually the Zollman's show of recent discussion. BTW- I 
> 
> The album release party was 11/9/93 (i think) and the Zollmans show was 
> 5/31/93 and the last time Dave played zollmans was around Halloween in 
> 93, so I don't think that was asked at those shows. (my buzz has created 
> som e memory loss at these shows....

I realized this as soon as I posted. My memory is slipping as well.
				-Adam


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Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:09 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: New Subscribers TAKE NOTICE....

Since there are so many new users as of late and I'm being flooded with 
questions and problems, I'll post this again.

Maybe once Minarets is moved to Netspace, the listproc software can be 
revised to add the information bar at the end of each digest simliar to 
Dat-heads, phish.net, ect...  We'll see.

IF YOU ARE A NEW SUBSCRIBER [with the past month] READ THIS:

If you feel like you're getting overwhelmed with mail from this mailing 
list, you may want to try digestifying the list.  Digestifying Minarets 
simply means bundling all the posts from one day [roughly] into one 
compact, complete, simple message.  In other words, instead of receiving 
ten messages from Minarets, you'll receive one at the end of the day [or 
whenever] containing all ten.  It's a matter of preference.

To digestify send only and exactly the message, "set minarets mail 
digest" to listproc@moose.uvm.edu

If you still feel overwhelmed and no longer care to be part of this 
community, send exactly and only the message, "unsub minarets" to 
listproc@moose.uvm.edu

alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 1:27 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: Halloween show?

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, FRENKEL JENNIFER RANDI wrote:
> I heard a rumor today that DMB is going to play with Blues Traveler on 
> Halloween in Boulder, Colorado.  I also heard today that this isn't true.  
> So if anybody out there knows what's going on, let me know.

Someone already pointed out that ARU is playing this show with BT.  Dave 
Matthews Band will most likely be in Europe for Halloween.  Still haven't 
heard any confirmed dates except the one Amsterdam show on Nov 2.  

Isn't Stefan from Amsterdam?  I think he has some ties at least.
Some tape some where mentions something.   Nice and Vague.

alex crothers


Posted By: dschwarz@polar.Bowdoin.EDU
Time/Date: 1:47 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Boston Show, Oct. 8

  Howdy all.  sorry to take up space with such a meaningless message, but
my recording of the Dave show in Boston screwed up, and I wanted to know
if anyone has a copy they are willing to send in exchange for blank tapes
or other bootlegs.  My email address is dschwarz@bowdoin.edu.  

By the way, anyone catch thesong that Dave started to sing at the
beginning of Recently in Boston, something like, "I had a girl, or should
I say the girl had me.."  

-Dan


Posted By: TOSTENG@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 1:58 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Bill CLinton

Has anyone heard the rumor that Dave introduced Bill Clinton on one of the mornignews programs today? I heard it, but find it really hard to believe.


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 3:28 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 314

sometime this week, ben tanen wrote:
>I've been known to call that "Cry About It" or just plain "#34".  Is this
>a mistake on my part or is Friendship Song one of those Haiku deals--
>made up by us and not recognized by the band?

i'd definitely have to say that it's a fan based thing.  i've never heard
it called freindship song until now.  at that show mentioned in the
original post (3-23-93, none other than big league chew), dave specifically
calls it #34, so it's kind of ironic that the person's tape has it labled
wrong.  even big league chew has it labeled as #34 (but for some reason
has dancing nancies labeled as 'turtles, turtles, turtles and more 
turtles).

now here's an interesting new thread.  let's try and compile a list of
1)names by dave for songs that have since changed to something more
  familiar
2)names created by fans for songs


in the first category, i know of the following:

smelly shoes: drive in, drive out
quick lay and goodbye: say goodbye
revolution 1: recently

in the second category, things get a bit more extensive:
jimi thing:  felacio song
say goodbye: quick lay and goobye
             just for tonight
             coyote love
untitled: heathcliff's haiku warriors  (big league chew)
          heathcliff's
          haiku
          so happy
dancing nancies: turtles, turtles, turtles and more turtles (big league chew)
ants marching: march of the rolly polly cane toads (big league chew)


i'm not going to list off the entirety of big league chew here, but i
thought i'd share some of the more interesting ones.

for those of you that don't know, big league chew is the name of the
last show at trax that peter griesar ever played.  one of the individuals
who taped this show decided to be a bit creative with song
titles.  i personally say it's a must have for any dave matthews fan,
due to the seven song acoustic set, as well as the amusing setlist, BUT, 
i have no dubbing equipment anymore, so don't ask.  anyone want to set up 
a tree?

>
>> and people, people was written by peter.  i personally think it would
>> sound incredible on 1)dave's chet 2)a nice grand piano.
>
>What are the lyrics to YEM?

watch yer(f) uzi is driving to a fire range
>
>
>--Ben


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 3:37 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: but what if life really _is_ peachy...

bringing up phish, as i often do, there's got to be a better way
to lyrically say "david bowie."

i think "life is so peachy" is the perfect set of lyrics for that
song because of the fact that the song is not about peachy lives.
it's about city life.  it's about how hard it is, and it's about
how easy dave suddenly finds it being up on stage (but maybe i'm
just putting words in his mouth).  

i think that spotlight is intended to be a very cynical song, 
probably towards richmond in particular, since dave has such strong
ties to it, and i think that the line fits it very well.  i can
see dave, and thousands upon thousands upon thousands of other 
people saying it with such an utter cynical disdain, that you know
there is an underlying meaning.  personally, i think the song should
stay the way it is, but i'll wait and see.  hopefully it will evolve
like drive in, drive out and rhyme and reason did, as opposed to the
way granny did (sorry:).

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 3:43 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: "mushrooming" fans? ha. ha ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

just a (picky, very picky) note to say that dave is not a lead guitarist,
he's a rhythm guitarist.  _however_, he is a much better rhythm guitarist
than a helluva lot of lead guitarists claim to be.  there are important
differences b/w the two, and i have a feeling that even a guitar technical
genius might have to think for a coupla moments before figuring out some
of dave's tunes.  particularly osw intro, #34, and rhyme and reason.

dave's sound works with carter and stefan to shape the music.  if there
is a "lead" instrument in this band, it's definitely leroi.  and i'd 
agree, although leroi can really rip some solos out of his ass, sometimes
they sound like they should've been left there.

and now for true flamebait material (let's see how many firefighting fish
i catch with this one):  $1.99 romances qualifies as one of the worst
peices of music i've ever heard in my life.


(molly, m-m-molly...)

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: kblack@moose.uvm.edu
Time/Date: 3:48 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Providence Setlist

   I am writing this from memory so the order will be screwed up and 
I might be a song short but here goes...

Seek Up                                                               
Dancing Nancies
Jane Likes
Best of...
Get In Line (The New Song- Right Name?)
Jimi Thing
Cry Freedom
Granny
#36
WWUS?
Minarets >
Typical
Rhyme and Reason
One Sweet World (No intro)
          E:
Warehouse>
Tripping Billies
                                                  Kerry
                                            (Very Lucky!)


Posted By: kblack@moose.uvm.edu
Time/Date: 3:57 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Northhampton Setlist

        Again I am shaky on order but I think I have everything  and 
pretty much in order...

Seek Up
Tripping Billies
Jane Likes
Get In Line
Jimi Thing
Say Goodbye
Dancing Nancies
Best of...
WWUS?
Cry Freedom
Recently
Rhyme and Reason
2 Step>
Ants Marching
         E:
I'll Back You Up
Satellite
Watchtower
                                           Kerry
                                     (Lucky Again)
                  "My head won't leave my head alone"


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 4:20 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: 5/31/93 Zollman

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994 IBASSIN@WESLEYAN.BITNET wrote:

> - get in touch with me. Does anyone know if Jeff will be giving soundboard
> patches for the Opening set at the Phish shows? What was last year's policy?

he gave us a patch at last years W-S and Lexington shows...I assume he 
will be doing the same this year.


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 4:41 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: quick note.....

hey everybody---

heard from my brother who was at the show at the stone balloon last night....
his first show as well as his friends' but i did get out of himm that they
played dancing nancies.... first and went for like 15 minutes... no positive id 
on this though cause my brother don't  know much about dmb.... he also said
that there were songs he didn't know which means they played things other than
uttad..... i hadn't seen anything posted but i figure somebody went if they did
did they tape ..etc... setlist etc... love to get a copy ......but anyway the
other thing is all of those people who posted stuff from could dave have been
if you could mail me personally with the date of the show and where it would be
cool...... also anybody comes up with any mail me....

thanks
rich

"Bring me quickly my horse Kamthaka, I wish today to go hence to attain
  immortality."

-----------
the keys to life lie in the facts that:

it itself is too important to be taken seriously
and it all comes down to the gopher dance
       
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
e-mail: in%"rpprisin@vax1.acs.jmu.edu" phone #: (703)568-7253


Posted By: Kyle.K.Langschwager@um.cc.umich.edu
Time/Date: 5:08 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: hello

This is actually the 6 or 7th letter I have written, I'm not sure where the
first ones went.  I tried to send them to the minarets address but I think
alot of them went tospecific people.  Well anyways, hello. I thought the 
message about "Could I have beens....." was really nice.  Although there are
a couple more eg. Could I have been too much money for my own good.  Also, I'm
curious if anyone knows about how many times Dave has talked about, "Some
people...." before he sings recently.  In Nantucket, everytime he played it he
said something fascinating like, "Some people like to make love, some like to
fuck all night long."  Maybe it's a new trend in Recently.  If anyone else has
heard him say, "some people...."(he does it like Could I have been..) tell
me.  Also, on the third night he played, he did a little neon lights 
precourse too Recently too. Ya know "the neon lights are bright on broadway."
A couple more things, has anyone else out there seen the shows in Nantucket.
I'd love to talk about them. Incredible (3 nights).  The last show I saw was
in Jones Beach, I don't really have a comment on that one (1st of two nights).
It just didn't really seem right, with such a big amphitheatre and such a
small crowd.  Who knowes, maybe it's such a weird thing not seeing him at
small bars. I can't wait to see him in Chicago, it's not such a bad drive
from Ann Arbor/University of Michigan.  Tickets are only $7.00.  If anyone
is coming up for the Ann Arbor show, get in touch with me, I know that it's
sold out but that's o.k.  If ya have tickets, I'll see you there.  It seems
a very big Michigan State Crowd will be there. It's 19+, holds about 250 people
I saw it last year and have the bootleg, very good recording.  Speaking of 
bootlegs.  If anyone is extremely interested, I'd love to trade, I have about
a dozen and a half.  I guess that's about eighteen.  I have a couple of 
Angel from Montgomery legs and one Redemption Song.  But, I'm still trying
to find Tangerine and Exodus (he plays those right?)
Oh yea, is anyone as interested as I am in what Dave says in between songs, if
you are, tell a bunch of funny shit he say's.  I'll start out by saying, "there
are a million things to eat in the world that are not cheese"Nantucket,MA
October 2nd,94. O.K.  if you want to write me directly, write ....-->
kyle.k.langschwager@um.cc.umich.edu (I think) If that doesn't work, write on
the network.
												Saying Goodbye, Kyle
P.S.Does anyone else have fucked up versions of say goodbye and rhyme and
reason like me?  He seems to always change say goodbye.  And two of the 
early rhyme and reason's are totally different, they barely sound like it-->
he never says, "Six feet under ground."


Posted By: HFEJP@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu
Time/Date: 6:02 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: Boston Show, Oct.8

On October 12th, Dan from Bowdoin wrote:

>By the way, anyone catch the song that Dave started to sing at the beginning
>of Recently in Boston, something like "I had a girl, or should I say the girl
>had me"?

Maybe someone out there really is listening -- think they caught the recent
DMB/Beatles discussionand decided to do a somewhat garbled "Norweigian Wood"
snippet?  I'd love to see them cover it though. . .

Beth


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 7:15 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: campb_c@cs.odu.edu

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Elizabeth J Pearson wrote:

> On October 12th, Dan from Bowdoin wrote:
> 
> >By the way, anyone catch the song that Dave started to sing at the beginning
> >of Recently in Boston, something like "I had a girl, or should I say the girl
> >had me"?
> 
> Maybe someone out there really is listening -- think they caught the recent
> DMB/Beatles discussionand decided to do a somewhat garbled "Norweigian Wood"
> snippet?  I'd love to see them cover it though. . .

it's been done...at least in part anyway.

I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me...

a BUNCH of times...


peace and homogenous pancakes,
Blake


Posted By: jgoodmon@mercury.interpath.net
Time/Date: 7:47 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: Hey all--

Dave wants us to "remember what ever two things we want...No I know what 
they are, buy a cd and then buy another."

On Wed, 12 Oct 1994, KEP wrote:

> two questions:
> 
> 
> 
> 1) what are the two things dave wants us to remember?
> 
> 
> 2) what is claire's address?
> 
> Thanks
> Kristin
> 
> 
>


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 8:25 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: hello

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994 Kyle.K.Langschwager@um.cc.umich.edu wrote:
> Oh yea, is anyone as interested as I am in what Dave says in between songs, if
> you are, tell a bunch of funny shit he say's.  I'll start out by saying, "there
> are a million things to eat in the world that are not cheese"Nantucket,MA

 
I'm so glad someone finally brought this up!(or maybe I just never heard 
it before?)  I am preasantly arranging a deal to have Dave perform as a 
stand-up comic on the side.......not really.  But I do love those 
humorous tidbits thrown in.  Check out the August Birchmere show in 
particular(even Tim was laughing hard.)  Here are a few of my favorites.

Zollman's I
Aud: F*ck you!
Dave: F*ck me?  later on boy, later on.

Trax
Dave: I had a whiskey to try and wake myself up just before I started
      It's unusual, I don't usually drink and drive.

Aud:  Bullsh*it

Dave: hey, well how do you know?

Aud:  I've heard
 
Dave: You've heard?  I've heard a lot of things about me too, and I'll 
      tell you I'm a pretty wild guy.


-reproducing humor is so tough on this damn thing.  or maybe my sense of 
humor left when my brain cells did.?

                              -Thanks 
                               love you guys
                               toolemd@mail.auburn.edu


Posted By: sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 8:50 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: tidbits

Dave does have great tidbits.  Here are some more:
"Its really good to be here tonight.  Where are the five women who are
gonna tie me up and take me home"  Sewanee 3/5/94

To a drunk youngster in the front row of vanderbilt: " first beer eh?"

In Chattanooga after technical difficulties: "Am I imagining things or are
big crunchy cookie sounds comming from the speakers.   All I can say is
'fuck'."
Anyone got anymore?
                                justin
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 9:04 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: WAREHOUSE

Okay y'all...here it is...

I'm ready to start recieving 1991 setlists. I have most of 94 done and 
I'm gonna start at the begining and work my way forward.
Anyone with 1991 tapes...send me the setlist, preferably in the 
following format:

3/19/93  Floodzone, Richmond VA

      I  Screaming From the Minarets->>Blue Water Baboon Farm, Dancing 
         Nancies, Two Step->Best of What's Around etc...

     II  Warehouse, Jimi Thing, Watchtower, Ants Marching etc...

 Encore  Halloween->Fixin' to Die Rag

     Dt  "I had a big burrito for breakfast, it made me feel 
          woozy...almost made me puke.
         "Sounds like dogs fornicating!"

okay...whenever possible indicate a segue with the ->> (double arrow). 
and a -> (single arrow) to indicate a slight pause (i.e. No talk, just 
a brief pause and BAM! into the next song.  Like a Two Step->Whatever song
and use a comma between the rest.

I'm confusing myself...

And to help us to further identify mislabled tapes and bring smiles to 
our faces, I'm going to include Davetalk after each setlist, wherever 
possible.  So please try to include some sample, funny, trippy Davetalk 
from each show that you transcribe.  If there's a bunch (and there 
usually is..) just send as much as you feel like sending, I'll pick 
some of the best stuff and stick it in there.  Also send any audiance
yells that are hilarious (for example, I have one show where some guy 
and girl keep yelling for Darkstar...) 

In this first draft, size won't be a problem.  I'll leave it up to the 
next keeper of the warehouse as to wheather they want to keep this 
feature.  

okay...so Any 1991 lists..send 'em my way now...

I'll probably be ready for 1992 next week...I don't have much 91 and I 
don't know anyone who does.  Hopefully we can fill in these spaces with 
time and help from Jeff and Stirling.

peace and kind coffee,
Blake

p.s.  I have a wicked cold and I just did shots of some gross tasting 
herbal remedy that will probably make me trip, so if this makes NO 
sense whatsoever, just ask me to explain.


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 9:09 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 315

>
"John P. Tierney" <74167.3051@compuserve.com>   writes:
>Subject: Producers

>Interested in everyone's thoughts...
and you're about to get them:

>
>Don't get me wrong, I love the new CD.  "Best" has always been my favorite and
>it sounds great here.  But the pacing on "Ants" and "Satellite" just don't
>seem right.  

this much i agree on.  best is far and away the best tune on the cd, and ants
and satellite were a waste of everyone's time (except, perhaps, for a self-
indulging steve lillywhite).
>
now, going to combine this: "And as some have mentioned, Boyd is way too 
far down in the mix."
with this:

>
>I think John Alagia (producer - "R2T") knows this band well and can get the
>most out of them.  I guess you've got to use an established producer on your
>major label debut, but I'd like to see John get involved again.
>
>For those of you who are newcomers to the band through "UTTAD", I highly
>recommend "R2T."  It captures the essence of the band that perhaps we may
>never hear again.
>
>
and say that i think you are way off base.  (whoa, harsh words, rick's 
breakin' out the propane....)

i think we _all_ know the band.  everyone from john alagia on down knows
the band _too_ well for that matter, and we've always liked what we hear.  
then along comes this steve lillywhite character and fucks _everything_ up.  

but listen carefully to the album...is boyd mixed to far down, or is he
just mixed differently then we're used to?  in my opinion, he's not even
playing the same style.  he's exploring, and so is the band.  what happened
to dave's chet atkins?  he's definitely not playing it on uttad, and if he
is, he's got his signal turned _way_ down (once this comment gets flamed
i'll justify it, but i don't want this post getting too long).  and where
did leroi suddenly pull a flute out of his ass from?  granted, we all knew
that was coming, but still, why now.  don't limit the band.  if they had
put out another r2t, i'd have been _really_ pissed, dropped the lyrics
and faq, unsubscribed, and started chanting "the damn dave matthews band
is just another athens (you get my point) sell out."  but they didn't.
they put out something new that they've never tried before.  and they worked
with someone new (lillywhite) on something they've never tried before.  all
the people bitching (including myself) about the lack of new songs have
got to think about all this.  

you've got to listen to uttad for what it is: a studio album.  it's an
oppurtunity for them as a group to explore corners they haven't seen 
before.  if dave can see three corners from the one he's stuck in, why
hold him to that corner?  give him a chance to move out and see what else
is there.  it seems to me that if dave had wanted to choose john again,
he could've.  but he chose steve lillywhite (who dave probably holds in
absolute awe for having worked with peter gabriel), and he went ahead with
the cd the way it is.  we all know for a fact that he thinks jimi thing is
"killer," and personally, i think it's one of the weaker songs on the cd.

and at this point, after multiple listenings of said cd, i think it's a great
cd.  it has it's flaws, but it's their first studio release.  i can't think
of very many cd's i can listen to all the way through without finding flaws.
(perhaps disentigration....no, not with love song on it...)
and after seeing this past weeks setlist, i've made the conclusion that they
may be headed for a happy comprimise of the phish direction and the rem 
direction.  

tell me, who's done _that_ before?  personally, i think we're still looking at
one of the most original, innovative, provocative bands of the 1990's, and
we'll continue to see them create, innovate, and provoke for some time
to come.
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 9:10 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: about wild thing and louie louie jam

i don't think the wild thing and louie louie jams count as covers,
just as quotes.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 9:19 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: tidbits

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Justin Sonfield wrote:

> Anyone got anymore?

my favorite of all time from 12/1/93...

Dave comes out solo to play a few songs and while he's tuning up, he 
tells a story about how they played some of the album on the radio that 
night and the dj let people call in and give opinions on it.  Dave goes 
on to say that the best response was [in Dave's best redneck voice, 
you've all heard it]  "Sounds like dogs fornicating!"
and then he goes on to talk about seeing poodles do it in a dog box and 
other stuff...

throughout the night, between almost every song, he repeats this famous 
phrase.

after What Would You Say...RIGHT after the final line he says [in his 
hillbilly voice] "I'd say it sounds like dogs fornicating!"

you've got to hear it.  Remember how funny that was Emily?  I still 
crack up when I hear it...

Good show too...Jimi Thing was sick...

peace and spoons,
Blake


Posted By: rbyerly@moose.uvm.edu
Time/Date: 10:12 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: DMB at Pearl Street, Northampton

I caught the Wednesday DMB show in Northampton Mass and overall it 
was incredible.  My one reservation was the crowd.  They were mostly 
interested in hearing a plug for the new album.  The worst part was 
after an encore of an incredible Back You Up and Watchtower the crowd 
began to chant Satellite as my meager voice yelled SPOTLIGHT!! 
SPOTLIGHT!!!  I know..I know...how foolish.  It's just that screaming 
for Ants Marching, Satellite etc. gets old especially when you 
consider DMB only has around 40 songs and their setlists for the most 
part are pretty uniform.  Jimi Thing was an incredible jam!!! Ten 
minutes or so I think.  Not to mention Say Goodbye and their new song 
Get In Line-great tune but I'll have to listen to it more to get down 
the lyrics.  CRY FREEDOM stole the show...it chilled out the 
more vocal drunks!!!  All in all I was impressed with the setlist.  
The first few songs were amazing even though it seems like Seek Up is 
the eternal first song of every new show.  The expression on Dave's 
face during Seek Up was classic- as he sang "look at me in my fancy 
car and my bank account" he had an evil grin that caught my eye.  If 
anyone knows the setlist for this show and the Montreal show it would 
be cool to post 'em.  If anyone taped either of these shows or knows 
someone  who did I would love to set up a trade.  The Northampton 
show ended on a good note as  I was talking to Dave after the show 
and asked him if he wanted to smoke some Vermont kind and he leaned 
over and said, "I'm so high right now.  You couldn't get me any 
higher even if you begged me!"  Talk to you later.  Rick Byerly


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 10:18 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 315

i just want to say that i kindof squenched up my face in dissapointment 
as i read that dave said  "there are  a millionthings to be other than 
cheese" when in nantucket.  He said something damn close to that at
Brown's Island this summer too ..I dont like thinking that Dave reuses 
his random comments ..they dont seem quite as charming if they arent 
completely spontaneous.  huge SIGH.


Also, from where is Fenton?? I've got some tape with Boyd and dave joking 
aboutFenton noone everyone in Sweden  ..and some funny stuff about a 
loofah too.

belgian waffles  with strawberries (they beat homogenious panckes hands 
down!)
cuddle like spoons (clue !)
and love for all
catherine


Posted By: campb_c@cs.odu.edu
Time/Date: 10:43 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 315

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Catherine E. Hobbs wrote:

> Brown's Island this summer too ..I dont like thinking that Dave reuses 
> his random comments ..they dont seem quite as charming if they arent 
> completely spontaneous.  huge SIGH.

yeah..this sucks...

> Also, from where is Fenton?? I've got some tape with Boyd and dave joking 
> aboutFenton noone everyone in Sweden  ..and some funny stuff about a 
> loofah too.

I think Fenton is from Norfolk...LET'S PRY INTO THE CREWS PERSONAL LIVES!!!
It'll be fun.  Ahhhh..Anyone got any good dirt on Bagby?

> belgian waffles  with strawberries (they beat homogenious panckes hands 

no way...pancakes are better.  

peace and full digests,
Blake


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 11:12 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 315

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug wrote:

> absolute awe for having worked with peter gabriel), and he went ahead with
> the cd the way it is.  we all know for a fact that he thinks jimi thing is
> "killer," and personally, i think it's one of the weaker songs on the cd.

Yeah, I've been bothered by that.  Jimi kinda stinks, at least compared to
live.  For sure at least the version on the album isn't great (and don't
get me wrong-- I like Tim as much as the next guy); I think Dave is way
off base on that.

> tell me, who's done _that_ before?  personally, i think we're still looking at
> one of the most original, innovative, provocative bands of the 1990's, and
> we'll continue to see them create, innovate, and provoke for some time
> to come.

Hey, shhhhhh!


-Ben


Posted By: x51558h3@usma13.USMA.EDU
Time/Date: 11:21 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: Help

Guys,

I am trying to build a bootleg collection but i have nothing to trade (big
problem).  If you are willing to copy whatever you have if i send you a blank
tape would you please write me back?  I would really appreciate it.  Thanks.

Take it easy
Tim


Posted By: nolan@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu
Time/Date: 11:51 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: help

hello

I'd just like to say that although I'm relatively new to the net
I really enjoy it.  but i have it on digest and I'd rather receive the 
messages one-by one .  How do I do this?

Also my first real DMB show (i.e. not at HORDE) was in Philly a couple

f weeks ago (TLA).  I don't want to grovl for tapes but I was pretty
out of it so could some e-mail me a set list of the show.  Maybe that will 
jog my memory.  All I do rememeber is a good time

Thany you
Nolan


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 11:56 PM Thursday, October 13, 1994
Subject: new cry freedom

Ok, I'm too curious what cry freedom sounds like now.
Does anyone have a dat of one of the recent ones.
I've got plenty of goodies to swap.

Forks & Knives,
Gray



I'll worry when tomorrow comes.


Posted By: chapmans@kenyon.edu
Time/Date: 12:44 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: tapes...

i am new to the net but not new to dmb, however, and would really like to get
some tapes.  if you get help me out in any way please e-mail me.  i would
really appreciate it.
thanks a lot.
sara


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:07 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Re: Boston Show, Oct.8

Christ, the "I once had a girl..." intro has been done in just
about every dave song in the past 2 1/2 years.  Ive seen him do
it in Back You Up, LOver, Recently, Pay For..., So Much TO Say,
and I cant remember what else.  He proceeds with "she showed me
her room...norweigian wood."  

Hate to spoil your fun, but its not that someone's taken OUR
advice, it's just that Dave's finally getting around to doing the
stuff he used to a long time ago.


Wade


Posted By: goldberg@rochgte.fidonet.org
Time/Date: 1:14 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: I have a wierd version!

 u > P.S.Does anyone else have fucked up versions of say goodbye and rhyme
and
 u > reason like me?  He seems to always change say goodbye.  And two of the
 u > early rhyme and reason's are totally different, they barely sound like
 it-->
 u > he never says, "Six feet under ground."

I have a wierd version of Rhyme and Reason also, I can't remember what
boot is from, and frankly, I'm too lazy to look it up.  But at least I
can vouch for you.

seth


Posted By: rkc@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
Time/Date: 1:25 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 314

I think it's Jimi Thing. He said the same thing before playing it at the 
Roseland show.

4On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, Jalphy Ryder wrote:

> introduced a song, saying it was about sitting back and getting stoned.  
> Anyone have any idea what song this is?  Anyways, help with Colorado tour 
> dates is needed.
> 
> Peace & Out...
> 
> Japhy
> 


Posted By: rkc@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
Time/Date: 1:31 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Re: Providence Setlist

Does anyone know where I can get tablature of some of Daves' songs???

Robby


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:42 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Re: I have a wierd version!

As for the "fucked up" versions of Rhyme, Minarets, Seek Up, Say
Goodbye, Warehouse, Jimi THing, etc, you must remember that the
lyrics to these songs changed practically weekly, and it was only
with the release of these songs on cd's that the lyrics to them
actually finally became set in stone, much to my disappointment.

As for songs which have been retitled:

Blood of Our Children->Xmas Song
Step Into The Light->Lie In Our Graves (yes this was at one
point the recognized title)

Dangerous Hours->Desperate Hours->Dangerousours->Help Myself

and 

Everybody Happy->Typical Situation  (this is before the verses
were written, just the chorus was.  Ive got an awesome version
of this where there's just a sax solo during the verse, and then
Dave sings the chorus "everybody happy, everybody free..." and
then more sax)

Let us also not forget the days when Dave would sing the chorus
to Tripping Billies as "Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow
we die, eat, drink and be merry AND TODAY WE'LL GET HIGH...cuz
we're tripping billies..."



As for 91 tapes, all the shit Ive got from 91 is all filler on
other tapes, although most of ]it has a date, and that which
does I am 100% positive that its correct in dating.  let me know
if you want what I have.


Wade

(longs for the pre-dancing nancies where carter is playing a jazz
beat during the chorus, and Dave is singing about "what were you
ever talking with???")


Posted By: kartzman@sas.upenn.edu
Time/Date: 2:09 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: a million things you can eat...

	Perhaps he did it more than once, but the show that I have heard 
where Dave says, "There are a million things in this world that you can 
eat which are not cheese" is from 7/28/94 at Irving Plaza in NYC.  Also, 
the Beatles "I once had a girl..." is from Norweigan Wood.

	 				Check you later,
	  						  Ted

<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>
  Ted Kartzman                            kartzman@mail.sas.upenn.edu	
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 "I was surprised that my brain only charged me student rates for the 
kaleidoscope that was playing on my eyelids.  Show times at 1, 3, and 5 pm."
						-Glynyrd S. 8/30/94
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Posted By: Kyle.K.Langschwager@um.cc.umich.edu
Time/Date: 2:37 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: hello spring

O.K. I need some help on a set that I'm pretty sure is all one show.  But,
it was the first leg I ever got so it's pretty old.  It has the date
5/11/93 on it, but, with all of the old songs on it and Shannon Worrell
singing on Angel from Montgomery.  It has to be real old.  Here's a list
of the songs:
True Reflections
Dangerous Hours
Christmas Song
Halloween
The song that Jane Likes
Redemption Song
Satellite
Lover Lay Down
People,People
Angel from Montgomery (kinda like the Charlottesville Anthem)
Granny
Warehouse
Ants Marching
Typical Situation
Dancing Nancies
Two Step
  If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciate.  I also have
a show from Chi Phi in Athens,Ga that I have no clue what the date is, 
"yo folks,how about givin' it up for Dave Matthews one time.
Anyways,  I once knew the date for a Charlotte show, but I lost that too.
Actually, it got stolen along with about 8 other legs.  To tell you the
truth it was my own fault.  That's what I get for visiting my girlfriend
and leaving my door unlocked at an open party. Stupid!! O.K.  The only
other show that I don't have a date for is a richmond show-flood zone. 
For a clue on when it was, prior to say goodbye he says, "I still have
no words or no title but I am gonna play it anyway."  Hopefully some
of those quotes will spark some memmory.I don't know if I am anal or what,
but I get really pissed off about not having the exact set list, or dates.
Hopefully domeone who has some time out there will look back, or remember,
these shows and help me.  Greatly appreciated, 
                                          Kyle


Posted By: Rsr3078@aol.com
Time/Date: 8:09 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Widespread, IG, Hendrix & More

Hey Everybody!!
I'm looking for boots for the following:

Widespread
Indigo Girls
Phish
Jimi Hendrix

I have tons of DMB, and a couple of Beatles and Indigo Girls to trade. I
desperately need Jimi stuff, so even if you don't want to trade and you've
got some Jimi stuff PLEASE get in touch w/ me!!  I really appreciate it.  But
for anyone who wants to trade e-mail me at rsr3078
THANKS  :)  


-Alix :)


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 10:53 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Baton Rouge show/Blue Water Babboon Farm

I am off to see DMB/RR in Baton Rouge(Sunday, Varsity Theatre) this afternoon  
- 1200 miles away!  Call me crazy but I have a 4 day weekend and it is about  
time for me to see a full length DMB show (not 45 minutes of the Horde  
Festival).  Anyone else going to be down there?  I have never been to  
Louisana so we are going to stay in N.O. on saturday night.  I would love to  
hear some helpful hints, etc. before I leave (around 4o'clock).  Regardless  
of the show, It will be good in my eyes, however do you think the show will  
be "run of the mill" since it is so far away from Virginia home?  (Not that  
run of the mill is bad or anything). 

	  After this past year and a half of just listening to them, know it  
is my time to SEE them.  Sorry for the yelling, and jumping up and down.

BTW, when was the last time they played Blue Water Babboon Farm?  That would  
be a beaut!  Minarets > BWBF > Typical Situation (10/26)!

on my way.......to N.O.
joe


Posted By: sfrazier
Time/Date: 11:48 AM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Montreal Setlist

	I believe it was Alexis Carena who asked about the setlist from 
the 10/5/94 Montreal show. This was the bands first international 
appearance. Well, I just got my copy so here is the setlist:
	Seek Up
	Tripping Billies
	Song that Jane Likes
	Best of Whats Around
	Satellite (the band was horribly off)
	Dancing Nancies
	Warehouse
	What Would You Say
	Lover Lay Down
	Rhyme And Reason
	Jimi Thing
	Typical Situation
	Quicklay & Goodbye (Say Goodbye)
	Ants Marching
	E: Watchtower

	It was a great show with the exception of Satellite. That song 
was just a mess. Dave and Boyd were really off key. On the other hand, I 
thought Quicklay was done really well. It seemed to be more passionate 
and complete than other versions I've heard. Anyways, there is the list. 
Enjoy.

Scott


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 12:34 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: MEET DAVE IN NEW ORLEANS!

Hey y'all .... Greetings from the Big Easy.....

On Sunday, Oct 16, Dave will be playing in Baton Rouge, about an hour 
from New Orleans at The Varsity, and great sized theatre to see a show 
in, and the LSU crowd will greet him with loving arms....
\

...............THEN!

Tuesday at 3:30, Dave (and the band?) will be at "The Mushroom", a local 
record store in New Orleans to have what they are calling a 
"Pre-concert"..... So, I guess before the Tuesday night show at the House 
of Blues, Dave will be chillin out with me.  cool. far-out. beans. 

The flier at The Mushroom said free merchandise, BEvERages, and music 
will be given away....

See ya there.... I'll be the one with the beer in my hand and the big 
smile on my face. 

Victor
wandres@tulane.edu


Posted By: Kyle.K.Langschwager@um.cc.umich.edu
Time/Date: 3:17 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: D.AFrica

Oops, I accidentally wrote D.AFric, but I ment S.Africa.  Anyways, does
anyone know where dave lived in S.Africa.  I'll be there next semester
and I thought it would be interesting to know where he was born.


Posted By: Kyle.K.Langschwager@um.cc.umich.edu
Time/Date: 3:34 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Help, someone, is anyone out there?

I'm curious if anyone out there knows the dates of these show that I
have.  It seems that I have miss placed the date. Please, I would
greatly appreciate it.
Athens,GA.  Set list: X-mas song-->Rhyme and Reason-->Lie in our Graves-
                      ->One Sweet World-->Recently-->Granny-->D.Nancies
Charlote,N.C.       : TOneennoF A
                    : One sweet world-->Tripping Billies-->Song that J.L-
                      ->Lie in our Graves-->Song #36(Harning)-->Help M.--
                      >Satellite-->warehouse-->True Reflections-->Minarets
                      -->Dancing Nancies
Flood Zone,Va       : Jimi Thing-->What would you say-->say goodbye-->
                      I'll back you up-->Drum solo-->Halloween-->One
                      sweet world-->Tripping Billies-->Granny-->Dancing
                      Nancies-->Typical Situation-->Lover Lay Down
If anyone out there could help me, It wuld be incredible.  I'm sure one
of you guys have some of these.  I'll owe you.  Thanks, Kyle


Posted By: dec3x@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:45 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: last chance for immortality

Hey everyone!
     I am getting ready to begin writing my article on the minaret net, so if
you have anything to say, this is your last chance!  I have a lot of stuff
that you have written to each other and to the group as a whole, but if you
want to say something to have your name in lights (or at least in newsprint),
be sure to drop me a line and include your full name and the school which you
attend, what year you are, and your favorite something (it doesn't matter
what).   Come on people, I know you have something to say, so say it!!
     Thanks for your help, and thanks to those people who already replied.
;-) Diane Cheshire


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:34 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Roi's ass and $1.99

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair wrote:

> agree, although leroi can really rip some solos out of his ass, sometimes
> they sound like they should've been left there.

Very Very funny!!!!!! hehehe
> 
> and now for true flamebait material (let's see how many firefighting fish
> i catch with this one):  $1.99 romances qualifies as one of the worst
> peices of music i've ever heard in my life.

I wholly agree, my respect for GSW has gone way downhill.....
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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:34 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Dogs fornicating

On Thu, 13 Oct 1994, C. Blake Campbell wrote:

> 
>      Dt  "I had a big burrito for breakfast, it made me feel 
>           woozy...almost made me puke.
>          "Sounds like dogs fornicating!"
> 

This made me laugh out loud, anyone else!!!!!
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Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 8:05 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: Stone Balloon Show

Did anyone tape the Stone Ballon Show in Delaware?
I( am REALLY interested in it....Thanks


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:56 PM Friday, October 14, 1994
Subject: "Dave" on the news/welcoming iggy/yours truly, huck finn

I was watching the news tonight and on some stupid piece about the sharper
image on the 6 pm news on NBC here in NYC, they interviewed a guy who worked
their named "David Matthews"... I thought it was funny.

Re: GSW

I don't think it's any secret that GSW are not high (huh huh, he said high)
on my list of bands to see/hear, and thought I haven't even heard $1.99
BlaBla's, I can vouch that I probably wouldn't like it if i DID hear it.

Hee hee.  I'm just bitter the Luscious Jackson show sold out.

Also, just want to say a quick hello to liz (or iggy if you prefer), who I
pointed over to this net.  Since I'm the one that turned her on to Dave
(sorry Tanen...), she knows her shit.  Somewhat.  :)  So flood her mailbox
with mail... iguanab@aol.com


Ben, who wishes his sig could be as big and bloated as bufords...

just another memo from the cellar,

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*                   -Liz Phair                       *    New York, NY   *
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Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:13 AM Saturday, October 15, 1994
Subject: Current Tour Nancies + Why Typical Sucks

um...... i'm sick. ahhhhhhhh.

I don't remember well now, but since everyone (including me) has been talking
about dancing nancies and weirdo lines from the intro, I thought I would
point out that at least at Roseland (I dunno about other shows...) Dave did
this weird but at-the-time-really-cool singing thing before the 'could i have
been...'s.

why does that have to do with anything? i feel like i'm walking around inside
a clare post... where's the point where's the point...

oh that was a mean one.  it was a joke too.  ha.  ha.

AND... what happened to typical situation?  a few months ago it was always
something to look forward to it, but now... now... no more super cool hits
that took me months to be able to play along with, no more sax solo, no
more... just no more feeling.

i'm not very interesting am i?
oh well.

ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*             "hold onto nothing               *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*             as fast as you can"              * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                   -Tori Amos                 *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: Miroo@aol.com
Time/Date: 7:31 PM Saturday, October 15, 1994
Subject: kind boots

I was wondering if anyone would want to help me get a few  dmb boots to start
with ,i do collect but i dont have dmb.
i would apricaite it a lot if someone could help me out 
thanx
Aron 
Miroo


Posted By: frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 7:44 PM Saturday, October 15, 1994
Subject: Could I have been...

Here's a new one I heard a couple days ago...

		could I have been...beachfront property.

					
 					Later,
					Brian


Posted By: ShanHop@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:38 PM Saturday, October 15, 1994
Subject: Tapes, anyone?

I am in search of tapes anyone may have of DMB after Peter left the
group...the more recent the better.  I have some good tapes with Peter and
will soon have a tape of DMB at UVa last month which taped direct from the
original.  I'm willing to work out a trade!

My favorite "could I":

Could I have been...stuck in public in my underpants.


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 10:41 PM Saturday, October 15, 1994
Subject: Late Thoughts on Playing Under Tables

Since I expected more reviews fro the old guard about the new album, I just
thought I might give a short (well, we'll see how short...) summary of my
opinions.

Well, lemmee just start off, the cover art is asolutely amazing, that shade
of purple is just so cool.  I love looking at it.  The entire CD looks cool
damnit.

As for song selection, I can't complain that much.  I think the only true dud
is Satellite.  It just doesn't make sense.  I never really liked the song in
the first place, but the great idea of slowing it down to a yawn didn't help
much.  Well, it hurt a LOT.  There.  Rick said Best of is the best song, and
I don't know if i can disagree.  I don't think I have as clear an idea of
best and worst, but it is certainly high up there.  WWYS is pretty good,
Popper sounds great, but they chopped off the jam, which probably would
bother me less if they had at least kept it long at shows...

Okay, lets just skip satellite, shall we? (clicking sound of my CD remote)

R&R is good, it's a favorite of mine.  I love it when Dave screams.  NOTE:
this doesn't mean that _I_ scream whenever he screams at a show like some
dummy-worshiping-people...

Typical is fair, the flute sounds nice, but at the same time I miss the sax
and the hits.  And damn it, it just has a wimpy sound to it... Nancies is
really good, i have a love/hate feeling on the vocal effect that is most
noticeable in the very beginning.  Ants doesn't really bother me.  I kinda
like it.  Please don't exclude me from your little discussions because I said
that... :)

Lover could have been better.  I mean, there's no way I can think of to
destroy Lover, but the emotion is a bit diluted and where is my harmony??
 Jimi is okay, I dunno, it's just a run through of the song pretty straight
without any real solos.  Of coures, by itself it's simply a very well
constructed song, but without solos that's ALL it is.  Warehouse is nice, I
really like that Dave used the intro instead of going straight into it, and
I've always had a fondness for this song, so I'm glad I have a good meaty
electric version on CD.

Pay 4 and #34 are both really good, I like how the album closes on a quiet
note instead of a cheesy Smashing Pumpkins-esque burst of 70's-rock-fury.

I don't think I can give it a grade, but I'd have to conclude by simply
saying it's pretty good (for a dave album, for a random band this would be
damn good).  In some ways I wish there had been a drive in drive out, a cry
freedom, a spotlight, but at the same time, putting them on a shiny circle
somehow makes them less mine, and lets every marcy, maria, and marianne (hee
hee) suddenly know the song(s) that once were 'special'...


smiles and assorted happiness.
ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*             "hold onto nothing               *  --   Ben Sterling  --  *
*             as fast as you can"              * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*                   -Tori Amos                 *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: seandev@beacon.regent.edu
Time/Date: 10:50 PM Saturday, October 15, 1994
Subject: Details (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 22:32:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sean Deverux <seandev@beacon.regent.edu>
To: minarets@mose.uvm.edu
Subject: Details


	Hey everybody, in case you haven't seen it yet, Dave is in this
month's issue of Details magazine.  There is a small (paragraph long)
review of UTTAD.  And I quote "What began as a Virginian frat band has
graduated into a mature melange of influences- jazz rythm section and sax,
country fiddle, and alternative guitar, all framed by great pop melodies. 
Unpeggable and totally addictive."

	Also for everybody in the Northern Virginia area.  Tickets went on
sale today for Nov. 8 at Lisner Auditorium.  Tickets are 16.75 I believe
plus a 4 dollar service charge.  YIKES.  Seems like it was just a year ago
I was getting into the flood zone to seem him for 6 bucks (5 if I was over
21).  Time sure flies when your having fun.  

	Catch you on the flip side
		Sean Devereux


ps. I would have posted sooner, but I didn't even now about the show until
today.

pss.  Thanks to Gillian for calling me up and letting me now about it.


Posted By: Rsr3078@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:18 PM Saturday, October 15, 1994
Subject: Ants Marching on UTTAD

Okay I know this subject has been discussed an endless number of times on
this net, but I just thought that I would add my two cents in even if the cd
was released almost a month ago.  First of all everyone seems so upset that
ants is on the cd, but I'm kinda glad.  I mean Ants... was my first taste of
Dave.  That was the song that two years ago I would listen to over and over
again.  Basically for my first couple of weeks of DMB that was the only song
that I even liked!!  After hearing Ants I started listening to the whole cd
and BAM now they are just the coolest.  Now 70% of the music I listen to is
Dave Matthews!  They have changed my music life for the way better, not 2 and
1/2 yrs. ago was I singin along to Garth Brooks.(AHHHHHHHH) So ya see Ants
Marching saved me.
And what about Satellite, Dancing Nancies, etc. why isn't anyone complaining
about those songs being repeated on cds?  Oh well, I probably should have
posted this two or three weeks ago.  

     Alix
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