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Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 12:22 AM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: People, People and Spotlight.

Quick request.  I have heard so much about the songs Spotlight,  and People, 
 People.  I am very interested in getting a tape with these to songs.  I 
have some good stuff to trade so if anyone could drop me a line I would 
appreciate it.  Have a good one!
Scott Miller-
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: phillip@sol.cms.uncwil.edu
Time/Date: 1:18 AM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: digest 331

Could somebody please mail me a copy of Digest 331?

I was trying to run slip and retrieve some mail, sand lost it 
in the process.
thanks in advance.

Alvin...


-- 
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
:-)     phillip@sol.cms.uncwil.edu   :-)     I swear, I didn't do it... :-)
:-)   This space left blank because    :-)         Alvin P. Phillips    :-)
:-)I was forced to enter the real world :-)             "POEMAN"        :-)
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Posted By: phillip@sol.cms.uncwil.edu
Time/Date: 1:20 AM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: digest 331

could someone please mail me a copy of digest 331 ?

I was trying to configure slip to retrieve some mail, but lost this
in the process. :-)

thanks in advance...

Alvin..
-- 
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
:-)     phillip@sol.cms.uncwil.edu   :-)     I swear, I didn't do it... :-)
:-)   This space left blank because    :-)         Alvin P. Phillips    :-)
:-)I was forced to enter the real world :-)             "POEMAN"        :-)
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)


Posted By: will.schaffarzick@babble.com
Time/Date: 4:42 AM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Oxford, MS Boots

Hey, all...

Does anyone have a boot of the Oxford, Mississippi show (October 19,
1994.)  Send a message to  [will.schaffarzick@BaBbLe.com]  so we can
arrange a swap of some type.

Thanks in advance...
<< Will Schaffarzick >>


Posted By: taocon@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 12:44 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Avalon, Boston MA 10/8/94

Looking for a tape of the Avalon show on October 8, 1994. Don't have much
to trade in return. Have copies of the Lake Matoaka Show 4/10/94 and
Williams College 12/11/93. Other than that I can only offer monetary
compensation. If anyone has a copy that would be willing to copy for me,
please reply to me at my address and NOT minarets. Thanks.

                                                TOC


Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 3:33 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Vic Theater, 10/28 Chicago

Hey Y'all,

Solid show...kind of a crowd pleaser:

10/28/94 Vic Theater, Chitown

Soundcheck: One Sweet World, New Really Cool Unnamed Tune

One Sweet World, Dancing Nancies*, Warehouse, Jane, Quick Lay & Goodbye (I
say that's the name, dammit!!), Satelite, Rhyme, Get in Line, Tripping
Billies, Cry Freedom, Jimi Thang, Recently, What Would You Say?, #36, Ants

E: I'll Back You Up, Watchtower

* Funky new intro verse

Highlights were Get in Line, Nancies, and a hot Watchtower
Lowlights: It's the album WWYS :-<, Ants and Satelite were HUGE fan
favorites, overall not a really inspired show.
I've seen them a bunch of times but I just don't think they are getting better.
They are getting tighter....but almost all the jamming and random stuff
just doesn't seem to be there anymore.

Oh well, still a great band

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Brian

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Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 3:47 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Re : Drugs

Right on! keep private lives private.  Although I'll admit to anjoying 
gossip in small doses.  Thanks for perspective.

<M>


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 4:31 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Hey Tonya...

        You go to UVA and your trying to tell us you can't find any DMB 
bootlegs?
WHAT????... I have a strange feeling there are one or two 'legs floating 
around at UVA!!!!!... Just ask around and you won't have to bother mailing 
stuff back and forth...                                
                                        Sincerely,
                                                        Fred House


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Avalon, Oct. 8 '94

        I to am looking for a copy of the Oct 8 '94 show in Boston... I was 
there and
it was great.. They played an original song I really want on tape... I have some
really cool stuff to offer...
                                                        -Fred House


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:53 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Drugs, New Chicago Songs, 'What's a diarama?'

The net is picking up now... probably because everyone's posting 5 times in a
row. :)

DRUGS: yeah, Gray knows his shit.  Until Dave (just because Trey can't
remember how to sing Fee doesn't mean that he's on crack...) or Leroi
collapse on stage, I think we should keep out of their collective lives.

BRIAN: New 'unnamed' song?  You mean different than Get In Line?  Please
elaborate.  Maybe they AREN'T slipping.  That would be a good thing.

I still can't believe the goddess thinks my posts make less sense than
hers... sheesh... i am a beacon of clarity.

Break some glass. Watch the Simpsons.  Wear contacts until your eyes fall
out.
Juliana Hatfield still kicks butt, Tanen...

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*              "I might be a mess              * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
*            but I try to stay pure"           * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*               -Luscious Jackson              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 5:12 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Drugs, New Chicago Songs, 'What's a diarama?'

On Sun, 30 Oct 1994 NebuIous@aol.com wrote:

> DRUGS: yeah, Gray knows his shit.  Until Dave (just because Trey can't
> remember how to sing Fee doesn't mean that he's on crack...) or Leroi
> collapse on stage, I think we should keep out of their collective lives.

ditto.

> BRIAN: New 'unnamed' song?  You mean different than Get In Line?  Please
> elaborate.  Maybe they AREN'T slipping.  That would be a good thing.

I'd also like to hear a little more about this, if you would indulge us 
Chico?

Maybe.  So they played another new song!  Cool!  

However . . . 

My complaining posts of one month ago STILL apply.  This band is playing 
very nearly the same setlists every night.

Case in point: 

How many times have they played Cry Freedom since Providence? 
How many shows without What Would You Say or Nancies?  
How many times in the past two weeks have they done I'll Back You Up and
Watchtower as an encore? 

> I still can't believe the goddess thinks my posts make less sense than
> hers... sheesh... i am a beacon of clarity.
                                     ^^^^
Sorry, that wasn't funny.

> Juliana Hatfield still kicks butt, Tanen...

whatEVER.

-Ben


Posted By: rbyerly
Time/Date: 5:50 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: oh no Dave does Heroin

shut up, Beavi
s...


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:16 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Drugs, New Chicago Songs, 'What's a diarama?'

;_#R^R^}m]cV[uYZXy6^kXkZcCXZKY_

*******************************************************************************
   'you do not have to be good. you do not have to walk on your knees for a
     hundred miles through the desert, repenting.  you only have to let the 
         soft animal of your body love what it loves.'  -m.oliver

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************
                

On Sun, 30 Oct 1994, Ben Tanen wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 30 Oct 1994 NebuIous@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > I still can't believe the goddess thinks my posts make less sense than
> > hers... sheesh... i am a beacon of clarity.
>                                      ^^^^
> Sorry, that wasn't funny.

you bens kill me. seriously.

who wants to play 'duck duck goos?'
 rick yells: 'i do! i do!'
  ben and ben yell: 'i do! i do!'
   buford yells: 'i do 
K0


Posted By: WEINBERG@wuchem.wustl.edu
Time/Date: 6:26 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: People Magazine

Hey!  Have you all seen this weeks People? (Kevin Costner's on the cover)
In the picks and pans there is a review of UTTAD.  A really good review.
I don't have it with me right now, but I think UTTAD is called a 
thoughtful album from a promising artist.  Anyway, go get People!
Jennifer


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 7:56 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: (e:) Ziggy's Tree Announcement

    Sorry to waste bandwidth for those of you who don't want this kind of
thing, but I have had several requests for everything's stuff live, and I
have one good boot and would like more of just about anything, so I will tree
out this show!  
    I am from Winston-Salem and one of my three fav band's played there over
fall break.  I wrote the date on the tape, but I just have the setlist here.
Please email me with a response should you disire a copy of this show.  Alas,
I am too poor to afford a DAT, and I have no way to D>A, so this is analog
only.  Sorry to disappoint some, but maybe you could contact everything
themselves if you are stuck and have only a DAT.[ Gee, must be nice!]

    Here it is:
        Smile
        Spent
        Acid in Your Eyes
        Falling[!!!!Rock!!!!]
        ?Dame` Tu Corazo`n?  ~~ Will You Give Your Heart to Me?
        I Don't Care
        Chocolate and Vanilla Pudding
        Henry Hill
        Chosen Few[**]
        Wake Up
        Time Will Heal Me
        Soulfish[ sick!!!]
        South of the Border[ sick!!!]
        Who Do You Love?[ again, sick!!!]
        Rantings of a Lunatic
        The Everyday Syndrome[ always a fav live!]
        S.L.W.B.
    (e:)core:
        I'm Alive

It was all one set with a short encore, damn noise reg's...., and there was
an opening act that wouldn't let me on the board.. :|.  At any rate, this
should all fit onto one 100 minute tape and it's a super hq analog, if I do
say so, and please tell me if I'm wrong, it was my first taping experience.


BTW: No dolby was recorded onto this tape.

Please email all req's to me personally and I'll announce this later next
week.  Here's the request sheet, so please fill this out so I can be as
considerate to people as possible.

------------------------(cut and paste)--------------------------------------

Name:
Email Address:
Mailing[ ie package address]:


Phone: (   )   -    
Number of Copies You are willing Make:
Equipment:
Other items of interest that I need to know to do this right:


Comments:


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Thanks all, and go see these guys sometime soon! Rumor has it that Capricorn
might sign them!!!! Feel free to forward this to anyone else interested.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
    "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies?
   ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set you
        free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  "Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but I, I'll work it out, and then I, 
           look up at the sky"-Dave Matthews Band:Dancing Nancies
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 8:00 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject:

Anybody recognize this song???? Let me know if you got a name... Thanks

"I am an old women, named after my mother,
 my old mans another child grown old...
 his dreams were thunder, with lightning desire,
 this old house would have burned down, along time ago
 Chorus:   Make me an Angel, ...... from Montgomery..."    
        
there's more to the chorus than that but that should be enough!

                                                -Fred House , fhouse@vt.edu


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 8:03 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Hey Tonya...

On Sun, 30 Oct 1994, Fred House wrote:

>         You go to UVA and your trying to tell us you can't find any DMB 
> bootlegs?
> WHAT????... I have a strange feeling there are one or two 'legs floating 
> around at UVA!!!!!... Just ask around and you won't have to bother mailing 
> stuff back and forth...                                
>                                         Sincerely,
>                                                         Fred House
> 
> 
While we seem to be feeling critical, I have a request- could we stop 
calling them bootlegs? The band condones (encourages?) taping, and 
bootlegs is usually a term used to refer to illegally recorded live 
performances. The DMB net is the first place I've seen such tapes 
referred to commonly as bootlegs rather than tapes. This just seems to me 
to be a small way to recognize the kindness of the band and those who 
work with it (Jeff, RCA, others). Whaddya think?
				-Adam


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 8:30 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: bootlegs or tapes?

>While we seem to be feeling critical, I have a request- could we stop 
>calling them bootlegs? The band condones (encourages?) taping, and 
>bootlegs is usually a term used to refer to illegally recorded live 
>performances. The DMB net is the first place I've seen such tapes 
>referred to commonly as bootlegs rather than tapes. This just seems to me 
>to be a small way to recognize the kindness of the band and those who 
>work with it (Jeff, RCA, others). Whaddya think?
>				-Adam
>
        But calling them tapes is so boring!!!... Come up with a witty Yale 
term and  I'm sure everyone would be happy to use it!!!... 
                                                        Sincerely,
                                                                Fred House


Posted By: TWDUNCAN@ucs.indiana.edu
Time/Date: 8:34 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Fred

I have recieved one too many Fred messages!  What do you think?


Posted By: rmg@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 8:42 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: #36

I have heard much of this song and yet have never heard it.  Got it?
What I want to do is hear it, so if you'd mail me and tell me you have a 
tape with it I'd trade my good stuff to you...
Thank you.  Oh also - last night at the Phish show in Spartanburg, SC a 
bunch of cops entered the theater and began patting people's pockets down 
and making them empty their pockets.  Bottom line - I managed to escape 
without getting hurt, but my friend was caught for possession of pot and 
parafanelia.  So be careful - if you see the cops inside a theater, go 
where they aren't, because it's not worth any trouble they can cause 
you.  I posted a whole long schpeal on the Phish net about cops and 
busting us for something that harms no one, but I don't feel like
reitterating any of it, cause the whole thing really makes me sick,
but any discussion is welcome.  And #36.  Let's hear it.

Thanks for your time, and let's learn from each other's mistakes.
Russ.

*********************************SPYWAGON********************************


Posted By: @mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu
Time/Date: 8:55 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re:

The name of the song in question is Angel From Montgomery  a song written
by John Prine, DMB does not do justice to Prine's version, Dave & Tim
possibly.
Emerging from obscurity one again 
Sean Berry


Posted By: @mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu
Time/Date: 9:35 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Vic Theater, 10/28 Chicago

Brian Lipman writes:
>Highlights were Get in Line, Nancies, and a hot Watchtower
>Lowlights: It's the album WWYS :-<, Ants and Satelite were HUGE fan
>favorites, overall not a really inspired show.
>I've seen them a bunch of times but I just don't think they are getting better.
>They are getting tighter....but almost all the jamming and random stuff
>just doesn't seem to be there anymore.
Brian,
 I agree w/ you whole heartedly. WWYS does not seem to have the energy it
used to, Dave only busts into his strumming solo once, whereas he used to
do it twice, and the second could go on for a little while. The 4 shows I
have seen have been very mediocre and I am starting to think twice about my
love for this band. The crowds suck, I can barely hear over the din of
every single person screaming the lyrics to Satellite or having my view of
the band obstructed by crowd surfers. All the songs are done in the same
arrangements that are done on the album. The days of unintelligible Dave
lyrics are over, Parts of Jimi THing used to be undecipherable. Warehouse
as well. Dave is playing to the crowd, plain and simple. Except for a few
examples from this tour I think all these opinions to be  true. And I will
stop this tirade, although I could go on.
Flame Away,
Sean 
P.S. Brian do you want to trade, if so give drop me a line.


Posted By: Kristen.B.Hinman@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 9:43 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Fred

i agree with NAME!!! keep messages like that to single messages. we all don't
need to hear your bickering!


Posted By: saf1@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 10:06 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: re: fred house blows!

fred house:

please stop posting messages every five minutes.  You selfish hog- I have 
gotten 312 messages from you today, all of which contained mindless 
drivel.  Nobody wants to read about the time you farted during the second 
set of the show or how you beat off to Dancing Nancies.  If you are going 
to post any more messages in the near future, please make them about 
something people other than yourself will find interesting.  I hate your 
messages so much- they make me sick they suck so bad.  You are destroying 
the net with your verbal diarrehea.  Stop posting this bullshit!!!!

I love clare and so does johnfro!!
clare rules!!

sf


Posted By: JPETERS@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU
Time/Date: 10:16 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Jackopierce does DMB

	here's a little quickie.  Jackopierce played here at Colgate on the
26th and they ended their smokin' set with an encore and then their traditional
farewell song "may the road rise to meet you."  After the first verse, they
kicked into a slowed down version of "ants" and then they covered the samples'
"nothing lasts for long."  I just thought I'd let everyone know that it's not
just music lovers who love Dave, but musicians, too.
	If you've never heard JP, check 'em out.  They're both talented
musicians and great guys.......later,
				jeff


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 10:25 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Favor from W&L students?

As subject says, this is directed to those of you that are W&L students. 
If you aren't then you don't have to waste your time reading it.
Now then- my girlfriend is writing a "review" of your fine institution 
for the Yale Daily News "Insider's Guide to Colleges". She has to 
interview 5 W&L students. She has spoken with two, and needs to find 
three more. It would take about twenty minutes of your time, and it's a 
great way to tell perspective students about your school. if your 
administration has done anything you hated, here's your chance for 
revenge! Likewise, if you love something in particular about W&L, here's 
a chance to let high school seniors know about it. If you are willing to 
give her about twenty minutes of your time, write to me or directly to 
her at jhiltune@minerva.cis.yale.edu  Include your phone# in the message 
so she can call you. 
I feel bad posting a totally DMBless message, so here's a last thought- 
Howzabout an acoustic "Spotlight" in the original big city, black city 
(NYC) on Nov. 7? Anyone listening?
 
				Thanks,
				Adam


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:34 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: Jackopierce does DMB

On Sun, 30 Oct 1994, Jeff wrote:

> 	here's a little quickie.  Jackopierce played here at Colgate on the
> 26th and they ended their smokin' set with an encore and then their traditional
> farewell song "may the road rise to meet you."  After the first verse, they
> kicked into a slowed down version of "ants" and then they covered the samples'
> "nothing lasts for long."  I just thought I'd let everyone know that it's not
> just music lovers who love Dave, but musicians, too.
> 	If you've never heard JP, check 'em out.  They're both talented
> musicians and great guys.......later,

Doh!  I saw these guys on the 21st but I was home and I forgot to mention 
it when I got back to Minarets.  It's pretty cool-- especially when the 
rest of the crowd doesn't know ants (now how often does THAT happen at a 
DMB show?????)


> 				jeff
> 

-Ben


Posted By: m970168@pratt.nadn.navy.mil
Time/Date: 10:45 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject:

 has anyone seen a show at wait chapel before?  if so, could you tell me 
what the seating arrangements are like (ie, reserved, floor/balcony, etc.).  
thanks a lot.
dave


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 10:52 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Sanford, grow up!!!

People!! Really,  lets not be foolish.  I find quite ironic that the last 
7-8 messages I've gotten have been about 1 person posting pointlessd 
messages.  I don't desire enemys and nothing further should be said of the 
matter,  but personal attacks don't have any place here.  Let's act like 
adults.  We get so many messages a day that the 5 posted by Fred really 
don't cause to much trouble,  and by the way most of the messages were of as 
much signifigance as any other.  So smile and let's move on!!!
Scott Miller-
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 10:54 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: (e:) Ziggy's Tree Announcement

> I have no way to D>A, so this is analog only.  

Since Will is taking care of the analog section, for any of those who 
want an everything dat.  Contact me & we can work something out.


gray


Posted By: johnfro@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 11:42 PM Sunday, October 30, 1994
Subject: Re: bootlegs or tapes?

fred 
you're tearing the ass out of me with all your lame goddam messages.  is 
your ass permanetly glued to your computer chair.  stand up, go outside.  
quit sucking down candy bars and go exercise fat ass!!!!!
i love clare and so does sandy


Posted By: Lyn.Debevoise@williams.edu
Time/Date: 12:03 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: hypocrite, i am

I know this letter merely adds to the exorbitant amount of mail each of 
us gets, but I merely wish to make a simple plea. Can certain people 
restrain themselves to only posting purposeful messages? I have gotten 
far too many notes flaming someone for writing stupid messages. So this 
note, is, if you will, a message flaming stupid messages flaming 
stupid messages. 
	If you want mail so damn badly, write yourselves!!!

			--lyn


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:15 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: the keeper of peace and humility rises from teh depths and utters to the greivous avengers...

ok ya'll.
no.. not anyone specific..
but what's up with all this anger? this hostility?
just take it all one cigarette at a time. 

let's cut the anger. go meditate. go walk in tomorrows sunshine. go hug a 
beautiful girl/guy you have never met. go jump in a rain puddle. splash 
splash splash.. go nourish your inner child. go find a cosmic soulmate. 
go out and make passionate love. swing on a swing. lie down in the grass. 
'lie down.. lie down and wait.. like an animal' (- the utter god, 
bukowski) jump on your bed. burn incense. read kahlil gibran. have a 
lollipop. drink a fesca. play some kate bush. play some nineinchnails. 
smoke another cigarette. cuddle with a stuffed animal. but let's stop 
this anger. if i have to post like this again.. i'll be very disappointed 
in you kiddies... us 'old timers' know that when i have to write in like 
this.. it's not good. 
 obey me, the minarets.net keeper of peace and humility. 

a quote for the wise: (cause quotes keep us sane):
 'on judgement: the learned man who has not judgement is like an unarmed 
soldier proceeding into battle. his wrath will poison the pure spring of 
the life of his community and he will be like the grain of aloes in a 
pitcher of pure water.' -k.gibran.

in your hands and graces (borrowed from a friend), 
clare emily

*******************************************************************************
   'you do not have to be good. you do not have to walk on your knees for a
     hundred miles through the desert, repenting.  you only have to let the 
         soft animal of your body love what it loves.'  -m.oliver

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************


Posted By: jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 1:25 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: ***UMASS PHISH ANYONE***

Hey guys, sorry to post this here, but I need somone to buy my extras to 
umass for this thurs.  There are two tix, and if I could get a ride from 
Tufts it would be sweet.  Any takers?  jf
see you at turkey break clare?


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 4:24 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: Vic Theater, 10/28 Chicago

Is #36 the same thing as #34?

	Thanks,
	   Malachi


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 7:27 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Seattle tree tape

Just a question to clear up something I can't quite remember.

Seems to me that I remember something about Boyd getting hurt
a while back but I just can't place the entire story.  Is this
fading memory the reason that he doesn't appear during the
encore for this show?  If not, could someone please tell me
the reason for his absence?  I do appreciate it :-)

klong


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 7:50 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: Seattle tree tape

If I remember correctly, after the set, when boyd was going backstage, 
someone opened the door into him & smashed his violin.  Thus Boyd was not 
hurt, only his instument.


On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, K.A. Long wrote:

> 
> Just a question to clear up something I can't quite remember.
> 
> Seems to me that I remember something about Boyd getting hurt
> a while back but I just can't place the entire story.  Is this
> fading memory the reason that he doesn't appear during the
> encore for this show?  If not, could someone please tell me
> the reason for his absence?  I do appreciate it :-)
> 
> klong
>


Posted By: hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu
Time/Date: 8:41 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Southeast People-Check this band out

I'm always psyched to hear about good bands on this net and if they're coming
my way to give 'em a listen, so in the spirit of extending the good tips on
cool bands (most recently the band everything), here's one you might 
wanna check out.
	The band is called Big White Undies and they're from Gainesville,FL.
They've been playing for a little more than a year, and are starting to take
it on the road.  The Undies are a five piece band with male and female lead
vocals, with the rest of the band backing up.  The strength of this band 
is definitely their harmonies and the female lead.  They are jamming more 
and more, but the folk/funky/pop feel with great vocals is what makes 
them go.  Check 'em out at the following dates:

11/4  Orlando, FL        Hard Rock Cafe
11/11 Orange Park, FL    Road--??
11/12 Daytona Beach, FL  Black Eyed Susan's
11/17 Auburn, AL         Locker Room
11/18 Birmingham, AL     Five Points South Music Hall
11/19 TBA
11/21 Orlando FL,        Downtown Jazz and Blues Festival
11/26 Tallahassee, FL    The Moon
12/2  Gainesville,FL     Florida Theater
12/3  Athens, GA         Atomic Music Club
12/9  Valdosta, GA       JP's
12/15 Atlanta, GA        Chameleon Club
12/16 Charlotte, NC      Amos'
12/17 Chattanooga, TN    The Sandbar

If ya do go tell 'em you saw it posted on the Net...Thanks 
________________________________________________________________________________

 Brian T. Hauser               hauser@chem.ufl.edu         
 Department of Chemistry    hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu    
 University of Florida
 
 
_Always looking for good DMB and everything tapes....
_______________________________________________________________________________


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 10:58 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Sun, 30 Oct 1994, Midn David Russell Arning wrote:

> 
>  has anyone seen a show at wait chapel before?  if so, could you tell me 
> what the seating arrangements are like (ie, reserved, floor/balcony, etc.).  
> thanks a lot.
> dave
> 
> 

Wait Chapel seats 2,379 people (i have a little pamphlet here on it) Im 
not sure how many of those are in the balcony however. The seats on the 
floor are arranged in 4 sections  with three aisles between them. The 
seating is reserved but i heard that when WP played there, evryone got up 
and was in the aisles and pushing put towards the front, pretty much 
ignoring the reserved seating thing... but i wasnt there...
there it is..
kristin


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 11:00 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: Vic Theater, 10/28 Chicago

On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Jeffrey Andrew Heys wrote:

> Is #36 the same thing as #34?
> 
> 	Thanks,
> 	   Malachi
> 
nope


Posted By: sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 11:29 AM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Cool new Bands

Everyone out there who thinks this new wave of music(everything, dave,
ect.) kicks ass has two CD's to add to their collection.  About two years
ago, someone in colorado got the brilliant idea to put the best unsigned
bands the country on a disk.  The project is called AWARE.  Some artists
include Everything, Jackopierce, the Grapes, Acoustic Junction, The
Winebottles, Jupiter Coyote, Beanland, SHANNON WORRELL, Edwin McCain,
Hootie, ect.  Get them! they are well priced, and two of the best Cd's you
will own.   There has also been rumors of an AWARE tour to rival the HORDE
tour in the next summer.
                                                -enjoy
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:31 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Humor for the net....

Hey ben, (I forget which one)

Whaddaya say we tree the screen saver disc?? We wont have any problems 
with generatino quality loss!!

Hehe only kidding....I jus thought it was funny.....

Anyways, someone posted that dave is only getting tighter and playing the 
same stuff. I think his tighteness is the problem in general. Yes, a band 
needs to be tight enough to know when to play the chorus etc, but now 
that they have gotten each song down to a highly repeatable version, no 
spotaneous jams happen. Isn't Jimi thing supposed to be different each 
time you hear it???

But still awaiting the Horse Center......

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
|	"A Royale with Cheese...."					|
|									|
|	Ezekiel 25:17							|
|									|
|v4.0									|
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 12:32 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: rainy and gloomy

 hey.


     " I've had enuff, I've had enuff,

                           of being alone,but I got no place to go...,

           Oh man, oh how I wish I didn't smoke or drink,

                                 to reason with my myself,

  SOMETIMES THIS THICK CONFUSION GROWS,

                        

                 'TIL I CAN NOT BEAR IT  AT  AAAAAALLLLLLL...."
                                                      ----DM

         





                          



                        PEACE.
                                  * *
                                 --*--


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 12:42 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: The Pittsburg Show

I just heard from a friend of mine (who doesn't like the DMB) that Rusted 
Root stole the show up in Pittsburg,  is this true?  He would probably just 
say it to piss me off,  but he said he was sincere and htat Rusted Root just 
kept playing and playing.  He also said the DMB opened for them?  I know 
Rusted Root is from Pittsburg,  but I would be very surprised if DMB opened 
for them.  If someone could shed some light on this whole deal I would 
greatly appreciate it.  Thanks a lot!
Scott Miller-
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 332

I was wondering too how to see the pictures and stuff?? Someone
please help me !!!!!!

                    THANX,
                        TROY


Posted By: hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu
Time/Date: 1:23 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Get in Line

Is this really a new song or is it just somebody's name for Typical 
Situation?  ("if you don't get in line, they'll lock you away...") 

________________________________________________________________________________

 Brian T. Hauser               hauser@chem.ufl.edu          
 Department of Chemistry    hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu   
 University of Florida
 
 Always looking for tasty DMB and everything...
________________________________________________________________________________


Posted By: jmweinbe@artsci.wustl.edu
Time/Date: 1:29 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Mon, 31 Oct 1994 Scott Miller wrote:

> 
> I just heard from a friend of mine (who doesn't like the DMB) that Rusted 
> Root stole the show up in Pittsburg,  is this true?  He would probably just 
> say it to piss me off,  but he said he was sincere and htat Rusted Root just 
> kept playing and playing.  He also said the DMB opened for them?  I know 
> Rusted Root is from Pittsburg,  but I would be very surprised if DMB opened 
> for them.  If someone could shed some light on this whole deal I would 
> greatly appreciate it.  Thanks a lot!
> Scott Miller-
> sctm@vt.edu
> 
One of my friends is from Pittsburgh, and she went to the show which was
Dave Matthews opening for Rusted Root.  Rusted Root is from Pittsburgh and
they are very big there, so it really isn't that surprising that DMB
opened for them.

Jennifer


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:40 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 332

in minarets digest 332, brian lipman wrote:
>
>Soundcheck: One Sweet World, New Really Cool Unnamed Tune
>
>One Sweet World, Dancing Nancies*, Warehouse, Jane, Quick Lay & Goodbye (I
>say that's the name, dammit!!), Satelite, Rhyme, Get in Line, Tripping

i would just like to point out at this point that quick lay and goodbye is
not the preferred name of this song.  by referring to it as such, you are
insulting a close, personal freind of dave, and you are insulting dave.
all you need to do is stop and think about that title and you'll realize 
that it's cold, stereotypically male, and more or less just not a good way
to refer to any aspect of life.  think of how overwhelmingly beautiful
this song is, and you should find yourself incapable of such a deragatory
reference to an actual person (ie: the person the song is written about).

i'm being very serious, and saying this from my own abhorrence (sp?) of
this title, but i also know that this is how dave feels about it.

>Billies, Cry Freedom, Jimi Thang, Recently, What Would You Say?, #36, Ants
>
>E: I'll Back You Up, Watchtower
>
>* Funky new intro verse
>


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: kburesh@mason1.gmu.edu
Time/Date: 1:42 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: 52.50?

On Wed, 26 Oct 1994, Joseph Vastol wrote:

> Where does the pricetag 52.50! for the NYE show come from.  Are there any  
> extras to the ticket other than the show?  
> 
> 
> completely confused,
> 	joe
> 
Last year the ticket (which was around $30.00) included unlimited drinks 
and some food.  -Kim


Posted By: AHENNE@drew.edu
Time/Date: 1:43 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: Angel from Montgomery

to whoever it was that posted the request for a song title:  the lyrics 
you quoted are from the song "Angel from Montgomery."  it's a john prine 
song originally, and very moving lyrically:
	make me an angel that flies from montgomery
	make me a poster from an old rodeo
	i just need one thing that i can hold on to
	to believe in this living is just a hard way to go
it's also been covered by the Leslie Spit Treeo, a cool canadian band.  
great song, great versions...


Posted By: hls5c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:54 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: floodzone 12-16-92

hey all,
     i'm still searching for a copy of DMB at the floodzone on 12-16-92.
i can trade (but i don't have much). thanks!

                   have happy day,
                          heather




               
 smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile
   
  "Gone are the days we stopped to decide where we should go, now we
      just ride." ---- Grateful Dead


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:00 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

A while ago someone made the comment that Boyd and LeRoi were out
of tune a LOT recently, and well, we had that discussion about
the band's um...well...habits.  


Well, anyone else notice a connection???  I'm all for
legalization and whatnot, and personally, i dont care what others
do in their spare time, but when it starts to affect the rest of
life, well, thats where I draw a line.

I've noticed (big time on the Uva Ampitheatre show) that boyd is
almost a full step out of tune at points, and only before the
encore does he fix that.  I know for a fact that he smokes--he
asked me if i had a bowl on me at one point, but if you're
getting so high that you can't play right, then maybe something
should be done by yourself to fix this.  There's nothing wrong
with having a few drinks or tokes to loosen up before a gig, but
being obliterated is plain irresponsible.  Not noticing that
you're out of tune until 1 1/2 hours into a show seems a bit much
to me.  


Getting off of the soapbox,

Wade

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Within your eyes burns the Candle's Flame, and within that flame
I am dancing.  Smile, reach, hold.  Dance for me, Burn with me.
Let the flame ignite and consume us both...
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Posted By: C645417@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Time/Date: 2:17 Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: note

      please take me off of the minaret mailing list, i get too much mail
           my address is c645417@mizzou1.missouri.edu


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 2:29 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: the keeper of peace and humility rises from teh depths and utters to

On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, i am a goddess not your mother wrote:

> a quote for the wise: (cause quotes keep us sane):
>  'on judgement: the learned man who has not judgement is like an unarmed 
> soldier proceeding into battle. his wrath will poison the pure spring of 
> the life of his community and he will be like the grain of aloes in a 
> pitcher of pure water.' -k.gibran.
> 
> in your hands and graces (borrowed from a friend), 
> clare emily


Another quote to the wise on this subject.

     'If you knew, my sad friend, that the misfortune that has overtaken 
you is the force that illumines the heart and raises up the spirit from 
mocking to esteem, you would be content with it for a heritage and praise 
it for a guidance.  And from it you would know that life is a chain, its 
links taking hold one of another.' -K.Gibran.


                       @:)   Toole


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 2:49 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: cool words in nancies.

  hey there. heres some cool words i pulled off the 9/28/94 DMB
Richmond,VA floodzone show from the beginning of Dancin' Nancies.

               
                "Oh imagine, walking down the street last week,

                 took a left, what I did to the right, you see,

                 maybe things today, could be a whole lot different,

                 then the way they've turned out,
                 
                 then the way they became,

                 I don't know...,

                 Could I Have Been....."
                                  ---DM improv verse

                  

                       
Reaching,Searching, and Never Stopping so we can ALL Sail,

                                CHA * *
                                   \_*_/


Posted By: eam4@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 3:11 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject:

Hi there.  I'm not really sure what I'm doing, but I would like to be part of
the mailing list.  If you could give me any instructions about getting into the
DMB newsgroup, I would appreciate it.  I know the address is "minarets.net"
but how do I get into it.  Thanks a lot.


Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 3:26 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Blue Screen Show Setlist 10/31

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico & Wisk, 2-3:30 Sunday Nights/Monday Mornings
89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago

10/31/94 HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

"Brazil Theme"   ...............Brazil Soundtrack
"Porch Song"(underneathe opening) Widespread Panic, "Space Wrangler"
"Possum"........................Phish, 7/13/94 Big Birch, NY
Interview w/ David Schools of WSP......10/29/94-->
"Driving Song-->B of D-->Driving Song"....Widespread Panic 3/31/94 Chicago 
"Mission in the Rain"...........Grateful Dead
"All Along the Watchtower"......Dave Matthews Band, 10/28/94, Chicago
"Tube"..........................Phish, 11/4/90 Fort Collins, CO
"Bagheera"......................Blues Traveler w/ Guests, 2/6/92 Wetlands  
                                                                          
"Halloween".....................DMB, 4/5/94 Athens GA
"Lost in a Crowd"...............Rusted Root, "When I Woke"
"Big House Blues"...............Ren & Stimpy


 |
/ \

Brian

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|Brian Lipman <chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu>    ( @    @ )   ---------------- |
|Northwestern University                   {    !     }  |  BL   SCR    | |
|Bobb Hall #107, 2305 Sheridan Road         ( \    / )   |    UE   EEN  | |
|Evanston, IL 60201                          ( \__/ )    ---------------- |
|Ladies and Gentleman...On Drums..Mr. Ernest Giussepe Anastasio!-Henrietta|
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 3:34 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: tell me, are you satisfied with..

the fact that dave was #90 on billboard?

I thought it was kinda interesting.

Like all of us weirdo's went out and bought the album the first couple days,
and shot it up to #34 (and on the cosmic scale of things, I'd just like to
say that's one of the cooler things I've seen), but then since they haven't
hit the main current in this river of sales yet, they slipped _way_ back
down..


The VA Horse center is gen'l admission, oui?

see y'all at lex & wfu. :)

bbrreet

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                           bmking@mail.wm.edu
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions,
their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
                         - Oscar Wilde


Posted By: bleffler@wcupa.edu
Time/Date: 3:47 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: gw info

can anybody give me info on how to get gw for the 8th show
plus any extra place to see that are close would be great we are going to 
leave early in the day

thanks in advance
brian


Posted By: akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 4:29 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Lost a digest

If someone couls please sent me a copy of the digest from this past
saturday i would really appreciate it.  I accidentally deleted it before i
could read it.

Thanks,
Jen

Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: HFEJP@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu
Time/Date: 4:55 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: People Mag. UTTAD Review

Hey all.  Here's the full text from the previously mentioned People review
of UTTAD so you don't have to all go out and buy the mag:

This likable band plays folkish-rock similar to 10,000 Maniacs:  Melodic,
quirky tunes that ramble along interesting paths.  Nonetheless this major-label
debut has a beguiling sound all its own, a sound that mixes jazzy accoustic
guitar riffs with spiraling sax solos.

The songs often have a bittersweet flavor.  The opener advises that we settle
for "The Best of What's Around," while the conclusion of the soft-spoken
"Typical Situation" (Its a typical situation/In these Typical Times/Too Many
Choices) resonates in today's anxious culture.  Steve Lillywhite's panoramic
production suits the talented band, which features a rhythm section with a rock
steady pulse and saucy fiddling from Boyd Tinsley.  Under the Table and
Dreaming is a thoughtful album from a promising artist.


Short and relatively sweet -- its nice to see a favorable review, but remember
who People Magazine is marketed to...

Beth


Posted By: JSLAGHT@drew.edu
Time/Date: 5:00 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Why do DMB crowds suck?

When Sean Barry wrote of shitty crowds at DMB shows he was right.  I have only
been to two myself, the first one at Woodbury Forest high school in Va.  The 
crowd was actually moshing to some of the songs, and just being complete assholes in general.  My second show was at Roseland last month, and i was surrounded 
by 7th grade girls screaming(shrilling) Dave's name.  
   There seem to be plenty of fine people here on Minarets, why aren't you at
any of the shows my friends and I go to?   I hope to see some of you at
Irving Plaza November 7th!
						dr.oopy
	ps-I can see poor little Fred House right now, reading all the shit
	   people wrote about him, a thin line of tears streaking his
	   rosy face. Oh, well.

	
	"open up my head and let me out.......little baby"


Posted By: klemmao4@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 5:00 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 332

On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:

> in minarets digest 332, brian lipman wrote:
> >
> >Soundcheck: One Sweet World, New Really Cool Unnamed Tune
> >
> >One Sweet World, Dancing Nancies*, Warehouse, Jane, Quick Lay & Goodbye (I
> >say that's the name, dammit!!), Satelite, Rhyme, Get in Line, Tripping
> 
> i would just like to point out at this point that quick lay and goodbye is
> not the preferred name of this song.  by referring to it as such, you are
> insulting a close, personal freind of dave, and you are insulting dave.
> all you need to do is stop and think about that title and you'll realize 
> that it's cold, stereotypically male, and more or less just not a good way
> to refer to any aspect of life.  think of how overwhelmingly beautiful
> this song is, and you should find yourself incapable of such a deragatory
> reference to an actual person (ie: the person the song is written about).
> 
> i'm being very serious, and saying this from my own abhorrence (sp?) of
> this title, but i also know that this is how dave feels about it.

------------
So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
sure, please post.> 


------


------------------------------>                                  _ 
_______________________ >


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:31 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Digest 333

The digest from hell!!

Digest 333 (half of 666...hmmmm) was possibly the worst digest ever spewed
from Minarets.net.

At the risk of sounding like a guy stuck in the 'glory days' of minarets.net
(okay, there weren't any), this net is all of a sudden getting drastically
worse.  The posts now are almost 100% bullshit.  Of course, this post is too,
but I sort of feel like we have to deal with this in public (and hopefully
with as little name calling as possible) to try and slow our decent into
phish.net territory...

There are no soulmates left on the highway.

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*              "I might be a mess              * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
*            but I try to stay pure"           * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*               -Luscious Jackson              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 5:33 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: one (1) year.

I was listening to 10/26/93 and dave mentioned something that caught my ear,
& I realized the historical significance of the lexington show next wed...
:)

dave-
"november 9th.  november 9th is our new cd.
y'all shouldn't be cheering you should be saying 'it's about fucking time'
and it's live, baby.
it's live and it's memorex."

I think we should sing happy birthday at the show.

happy halloween everyone.  pleasant dreams.  waaa haa ha haaa.

brett

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                           bmking@mail.wm.edu
even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth


Posted By: amm850@nwu.edu
Time/Date: 5:46 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Colorado

Just a quick message-I was wondering if anyone knew if Dave was playing in
Colorado in November or December?  And if so, when and where?
Thanks,
Matt and Mandi


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 6:04 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: MY LAST MESSAGE!

        This one is for everyone who's mad at me for posting 4 times 
yesterday....
        First of all, yes, I was bored yesterday and two of those messages 
should         have been sent directly to people and not to everyone, I'm 
truly sorry for         filling your computer with those extra 100 bytes... 
I did not, however,                 realize that everyone here had 
undigestified mail... Try Digestifying it and you          won't recieve but 
one mailing a day with all the letters in it... And to everyone           
who has a problem with me posting, CHILL OUT... 
        Here's my top 5 list of unnecessary resposes to my 4 posts...
                1. Fred House blows..
                2. You selfish Hog
                3. ...posted 312 times, all of which contained mindless drivel
                4. ...they make me sick they're so bad...
                5. ...you're tearing the ass out of me with you're lame 
goddam messages

        Well, I guess I'll lay low, but you people really need to relax. 
People shouldn't
        feel unwanted in any net (especially Dave's!) for posting question, 
responses,          etc... Remember, you can always digestify your 
mail....Sorry again to all,
        and go smoke a bowl...
                                                                
                                                Sincerely, 
                                                         Fred House


Posted By: Wojkowsk@cleo.bc.edu
Time/Date: 6:34 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332

>On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:
>
>> in minarets digest 332, brian lipman wrote:
>> >
>> >Soundcheck: One Sweet World, New Really Cool Unnamed Tune
>> >
>> >One Sweet World, Dancing Nancies*, Warehouse, Jane, Quick Lay & Goodbye (I
>> >say that's the name, dammit!!), Satelite, Rhyme, Get in Line, Tripping
>> 
>> i would just like to point out at this point that quick lay and goodbye is
>> not the preferred name of this song.  by referring to it as such, you are
>> insulting a close, personal freind of dave, and you are insulting dave.
>> all you need to do is stop and think about that title and you'll realize 
>> that it's cold, stereotypically male, and more or less just not a good way
>> to refer to any aspect of life.  think of how overwhelmingly beautiful
>> this song is, and you should find yourself incapable of such a deragatory
>> reference to an actual person (ie: the person the song is written about).
>> 
>> i'm being very serious, and saying this from my own abhorrence (sp?) of
>> this title, but i also know that this is how dave feels about it.
>
>------------
>So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
>have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
>sure, please post.> 
>
>
>------
>It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends."  I think.
>Woj
>------------------------------>                                  _ 
>_______________________ >


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 7:03 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 332

the name of the song, as heard on the Uva Ampitheatre show
(stefan's voice in the background) is "Say Goodbye".  


What was the name of the "new really cool unnamed tune" that they
soundchecked???  It wouldn't happen to be "drive in drive out"
would it???  They soundchecked it at Uva on the 27th of sept,
half of it just to appease my constant nagging of dave to play
it, but from what he's told me, he wants to revamp it, and start
playing it again.

For those of you who've seen a full band "Drive In, Drive Out"
you know that it can be FULL of amazing jams...


Wade
     Who longs every Tuesday night to be at Trax with 50 of his
closest friends sitting on the floor enjoying a peaceful Dave
show...meeeemories....


Posted By: rmg@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 7:05 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 333

Does selling out enter the picture?  Dave is playing what the people want 
to hear.  Extended jams are awesome for those in the crowd who've heard 
the song hundreds of times, like say, us, but at the rate he's moving 
around the country he's just getting heard for the first times now.  I 
saw a show in Chapel Hill with 600 people and he did the most intense 
jams I have ever seen in a live show.  I'm talking ever - I've seen 
plenty of Phish shows, etc., but I've never seen jams like they did that 
night.  It was 2/15/94.  Anyhow I saw them just last month and their jams 
were nothing.  They played the whole CD and nothing I wasn't expected.  
It seemed even the jams were planned in terms of how many measures they 
would jam for.  What kind of a jam is that?  Let's keep this discussion 
open, though Clare Emily, because lots of good bands stop playing what 
they want to play when the bucks start rolling in.  Phish is one that 
hasn't; we really don't know what's going to happen with Dave.  I'm going 
to go hug a tree now and pray Dave brings the jams back to his music.

Russ.

******************************SPYWAGON***********************************


Posted By: scooter@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 7:38 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: typ sit at the vic

hey y'all

I am at Northwestern and am seeking copy of fri night's show at the vic in
chicago- if you can help me, i'm at

		scooter@merle.acns.nwu.edu

		aka katy sampson

"thank you very much" -dave


Posted By: johnfro@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 8:31 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: peace, love and clare--me and sandy ain't all bad

everybody
chill out
smoke a bowl
drink a beer
pull the sticks out of your asses
lighten up.
don't be so fucking sensitive
i think the anger on the net is a good thing, seeing as it is all just 
for fun.  
everybody was just busting freddie's chops about the message proliferation
humor is good
we like good things
we are all among friends
i love clare and so does sandy
we should all love clare
sarcasm is not a bad thing
people taking letters to seriously is a bad thing
dave would agree with me
we like dave
dave is a good thing


Posted By: Kristen.B.Hinman@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 9:12 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: peace, love and clare--me and sandy ain't all bad

you guys are all fucked up. how do you have time for all these messages?


Posted By: rmg@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 10:16 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 333

Good to see we'll all on the same side.  Maybe we could talk to Dave 
about his jamming some time?

All good things,
Russ.

*****************************SPYWAGON*******************************


Posted By: sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 11:51 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: AWARE

The number to get AWARE info is 1-800-AWARE65
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: ak148@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 11:55 PM Monday, October 31, 1994
Subject: Re: peace, love and clare--me and sandy ain't all bad

One Thing...  REC.MUSIC.PHISH  ... might as well set up alt.minarets.  
Well, I'd prefer alt.minarets anyways, but heh.

Stim ya later,
-Knowles

 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Andrew Knowles                                    |            PRAY
ak148@columbia.edu                                |             FOR
"Out there.....  ACTION!!!!" - Jason Polakow	  |            WIND
_______________________________________________________________________________


Posted By: SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU
Time/Date: 12:02 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: hot damn in a frying pan

Lisner is sold out.  Poop.

wow, amazing how flames can spiral out of control here... haha.  guess 
everyone should relax, smoke their mind a while.

oh, speaking of smoking and drugs and shit like dat.  personally, i say 
discuss the band's drug use if you want to.  i think that many of them smoke 
(this is obvious, pretty much undisputable fact after the number of stories 
i've heard) and some do more than that.  a little reefer is okay with me, but 
one story i heard involved something harder (not heroin) and i wasn't 
psyched.  not because they don't have a right to do whatever the hell they 
want with their bodies (laws be damned), but because too many good musicians/
actors/etc. die that way.  and, call me selfish, but i'd be very sad and VERY 
pissed if one of them died of an overdose.  cause *that* shit ain't so 
cool... everybody loses.

so, there's my $.02.  i'd just also like to offer up my personal plea to stop 
posting the "i really like dave but i need tapes HEEEEELLLLLPPPPP" messages.  
if you're new, just wait until a tree forms and join it.

i'm really looking for new and interesting music to check out.  thru aru-net 
and my brother i'm getting some medeski, martin, and wood.  haven't heard 
them yet but everything i've heard about them is wonderful.  and shannon 
worrell sounds great.  and everything.  i know rusted root is pretty good 
(but, in general, they are much more redundant than dave and not nearly the 
god he is lyrically -- then again, who is?)  jackopierce sounds very good as 
does jambay.  could someone send me the address for those AWARE cds?  they 
seem to be loaded with almost all of the bands i've just mentioned.  if you 
hear of any bands that are groovey, let me know and i'll add them to my list 
of "cool small bands" and then i'll post it again.  just a list i've been 
keeping for about 2 years now...

peace and your momma,
redi


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 12:07 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332

> >So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
> >have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
> >sure, please post.> 
> >
> >
> >------
> >It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends."  I think.
> >Woj
> >------------------------------>                                  _ 
> >_______________________ > 

It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..


Posted By: jtv2j@henson.cs.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:24 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: hot damn in a frying pan

> oh, speaking of smoking and drugs and shit like dat.  personally, i say 
> discuss the band's drug use if you want to.  i think that many of them smoke 
> (this is obvious, pretty much undisputable fact after the number of stories 
> i've heard) and some do more than that.  a little reefer is okay with me, but 
> one story i heard involved something harder (not heroin) and i wasn't 
> psyched.  

Nod, I'd pretty much believe it for all of them, except for Carter,
since he swears he needs to keep a clean head I'll give him the
benefit of the doubt.  That one story wouldn't be the infamous 
Miller's story, would it?????


John


Posted By: akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 12:27 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: hot damn in a frying pan

>i'm really looking for new and interesting music to check out.  thru aru-net
>and my brother i'm getting some medeski, martin, and wood.  haven't heard
>them yet but everything i've heard about them is wonderful.  and shannon
>worrell sounds great.  and everything.  i know rusted root is pretty good
>(but, in general, they are much more redundant than dave and not nearly the
>god he is lyrically -- then again, who is?)  jackopierce sounds very good as
>does jambay.  could someone send me the address for those AWARE cds?  they
>seem to be loaded with almost all of the bands i've just mentioned.  if you
>hear of any bands that are groovey, let me know and i'll add them to my list
>of "cool small bands" and then i'll post it again.  just a list i've been
>keeping for about 2 years now...
>
>peace and your momma,
>redi

Another great band you might want to check out is the Edwin McCain Band.
He's got 2 songs on the AWARE II cd as well as his cd own entitled
Solitude.  He sounds a lot like Dave and I think they've jammed together.
The adress for the AWARE cd's are:
        Madaket Records
        5612 Yale Blvd. #210
        Dallas, TX 75206
or you can call 1-800-333-1245.

Jen

Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 1:09 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332

Maybe I can help settle this little debate... I don't know thw proper 
term for whar it the song used to be called, but I have Dave's songlist 
from 10/8/94, and it is written as Say Goodbye, which if I'm not mistaken 
he also says on the tape of this show. 
Jen


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 1:17 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: New Music/ Selling Out

        For those of you looking for some new great music... I second the 
recomendation on the AWARE cd's, they're both kick ass (AWARE 1 and 2)... 
But for those of you who haven't heard of ACOUSTIC JUNCTION you are REALLY 
missing out... They've played with Dave before, and a lot of people think 
they're violin/flute/keyboard player is better at violin than Boyd... They 
jam real hard and I'd be happy to make some copies for people.. They're 
getting big up North where I'm from... 

        About Dave not jamming much anymore... Well, it should be expected 
at shows in new cities where the following is relatively small... But down 
South here (and places like Irving Plaza) the band should give the old 
timers what they want to hear... I to will keep my fingers crossed that Dave 
doesn't someday pull a Phish and have a video on MTV!!!!! (I realize this is 
a bit extreme but you get the point!!)

                                                -Fred House


Posted By: jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 1:25 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332

sorry everone. I just realized that half of that post made me sound like 
I was illiterate.  Forgive me,it's getting late,
jf


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 2:03 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: hot damn in a frying pan

Jennie posted something about Edwin McCain, he's great, & i'm feelin generous

For these reasons, the first 4 people that mail me with the word 
"solitude" and only that word in the subject line will get copies of my 
dat master of the edwin mccain band 7-30-94.

I can do dat or analog so whatever you prefer.

gray


Silence comes with no instructions!


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 2:12 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: a follow up on my flame...

i've gotten a bit of personal mail saying i was too harsh about the
quick lay and goodbye thing.  i'd just like to apologize for that.  it's
just that i know how dave feels about the song, and i wanted to let 
everyone on the net know, too.  i also forgot to tell the people not
in the know what the actual name of the song is these days:  say goodbye.

once again... humble apologies...

and clare, it turned out pretty cool....

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 2:39 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: karma karma karma chameleon....you come and go.....

ARRRRRRRRRGHGHGHGHGH.


we should put in big blinking bold type letters on the welcome message
that the term selling out is taboo on minarets.  DON'T SAY IT.  DON'T
THINK IT.  

did anybody stop to think that perhaps dave isn't as into the long
jamming thing as some other bands?  maybe he likes to play shorter
songs and just feel it flow.  if you pay attention to most of those
long jams of yesteryear, you'll notice that dave is nowhere to be 
found, so perhaps he decided that since these were his songs, maybe 
he should tighten them up so that he could involve himself more.

dave is not selling out.  how can i say this so confidently?  because
there's no such thing.  only selfish people who believe that the quickest
route to success must be the wrong one use the term "selling out."
and like someone else said, dave's had a rough 27-28(?) years on this
planet, and all of our bitching in the world probably isn't likely
to change anything.  that's not to say that he doesn't care about his
fans, or minarets.net.  he does.  but he just wants to do his own thing.

and another thing while i'm on the rag, for all you people (ahem, ben)
who want to complain publicly about how much the new, bigger minarets.net
sucks, why don't you just ask alex to send you updates with all the new
addresses that have subscribed and send every one of them personal notes
that say "you suck."  this isn't your net, this isn't your computer
network, and for alot of people around here, that isn't even your computer.
so quit hogging minarets to yourself.  if you paid money to create this
thing, i'd see the point to being annoyed at four lines of a post that
asks who anne was.  all you have to do is, if digestified, hit return, if
not digestified, hit delete.  for those select few who actually do have
to pay to download messages, maybe now is a good time to digestify.

now, obviously, i'm a bit cranky.  it's 2am and i have to get up in 5
hours to go to work and then take a french test.  waa.  i'm gonna go
take a deep breath now, get some sleep, and wait to see what sort of
fireworks i've drawn on myself this time...

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 3:19 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: Drugs = Being out of tune?

My hero, THE CANDLE'S FLAME <wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu>, writes:

>Well, anyone else notice a connection???  I'm all for

[stuff deleted]

>I've noticed (big time on the Uva Ampitheatre show) that boyd is
>almost a full step out of tune at points, and only before the
>encore does he fix that.  I know for a fact that he smokes--he
>asked me if i had a bowl on me at one point, but if you're
>getting so high that you can't play right, then maybe something
>should be done by yourself to fix this.  There's nothing wrong

Hmmm... the only time I've truly noticed him being out of tune was in the
Rhyme and Reason lick.

But the fact is, he still sings harmony perfectly well (the "Minarets" 'what
you see...' line comes to mind at Roseland, a show where he was out of tune
for R&R) live, and at least in my past experience as a musician, singing
harmony WELL is much harder than simply playing in tune/the right notes.  The
guy is a trained violinist, no mater how fucked up he is he'll probably
remember how to stay in tune.

>Getting off of the soapbox,

Yeah, it is getting overused these days aint it? :)

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*              "I might be a mess              * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
*            but I try to stay pure"           * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*               -Luscious Jackson              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
**************************************************************************


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:32 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: Drugs = Being out of tune?

I would like to take this moment to point out that I IN NO WAY
MEANT TO INSINUATE THAT BOYD IS GETTING TOO FUCKED UP TO PLAY.  I
just merely meant that when drugs interfere with the music they
make, then, maybe it's time for them to change that fact.  I
apologize to those I may have offended, but my point remains the
same...


Anyway, anyone have any info on that "new song" they soundchecked
the other night???  Is it "drive in, drive out"???  Or maybe a
reworking of Spotlight???


Oh well...

Wade
     Has entirely too much to do to worry about pissing MORE
people off...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Smile, reach, hold.  Reach, grasp, cry.  Grasp in desperation.
The Candle's Flame falls to darkness.  Look to the future, to the
sunset on the horizon.  Smile through tears, Hold through years.
Night has fallen.  The Candle's Flame is extinguished.
10-31-94 WMC
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 5:48 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re:Re: MINARETS digest 332

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:

> > >So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
> > >have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
> > >sure, please post.> 
> > >
> > >
> > >------
> > >It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends."  I think.
> > >Woj
> > >------------------------------>                                  _ 
> > >_______________________ > 
> 
> It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
> Only Dave knows the REAL title..
> 
> 

I've got a tape in which Dave specifically says "This next song's called 
'Say Goodbye'."  BTW, if anybody has tapes with the songs "#36" or "Cry 
Freedom," I'd love to trade.
		
				Thanks,
				M A L A C H I


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 10:43 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: The name bootleg.

I recall reading a post of a suggestion to rename "bootlegs" since
this word has a kinda illegal conotation about it and DMB actually
encourages trading tapes. so heres a few ideas:

                      1.shoefeets
                      2.glovehands
                      3.hatheads
                      4.magnetic dave reproductions
                      5.DMB on the MAX II
                      6.shaved legs
                      7.soooaahouulymakendubrah
                      8.lets trade some "BAGBY'S" (YEA)
                   

       i'm delerious so forgive. something cool will pop up and maybe
become integrated in Californian lingo.PEACE.


                               Reaching,Searching and Sailing,
                                         CHA
                                                * *
                                               \_*_/
    Peacetoallye'wholoveallcreaturesequally.


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 11:19 AM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Bootlegs & things

Bagbys, works for me.
Does anyone out there have a copy of the DMB show from Strawberry Banks in
Hampton, VA 8/94? My list of bagbys is somewhat limited but I'm willing to
trade. Hell, for this show I'm willing to pay. It was easily the most energetic
and all around incredible shows I've ever seen (and I've seen alot). Also, I'm
looking for a copy of the JGB show, also from Hampton, last years show. 11/93 I
believe it was. The same offer holds for this show also. If anyone can help me
please write to me either here or directly. kulpk@tiger.hsc.edu
							Thanks,
							Kev :-Q
P.S.-In my messages, smoking is allowed for your convenience.


Posted By: tmr3c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:23 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: THANKS

I just wanted to say thanks to y'all who offered to make tapes,
bagbys, whatever for me.  I was a fan in distress.  Thanks again.
Tonya


Posted By: brichar1@emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 3:11 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: hot damn in a frying pan

Another couple of bands to check out are MOE, Blue Miracle, Band du Jour, 
Supplication, and White Buffalo.  I've got the goods on them if you want 
some info.  Those bands and others (including Jambay) are on "The Wiggly 
Compilation", another disc that's out now.
Take Care,
Brian


Posted By: sauldude@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 3:23 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: dmb crowds

i've been reading all these posts about how the crowds at dmb shows suck, & i
thought i'd jsut add my own opinion.  i saw them in chicago (for the first
time) on oct.28, & i had a great time.  but --  i do think that the crowd
kinda sucked.  for a while i was down on the floor, & people all around me
just wouldn't stop talking about all they had drank & all the dope they had
smoked, & frankly, i jsut don't care.  i'm not going to rip on people who sing
all the lyrics along with dave, b/c i can understand that (as annoying as it
may sometimes be).  i later got claustrophobic from all the drunk
inconsiderate assholes bumping into me & pissing me off, so i went up to the
balcony, where i had room to groove along w/ the band.  

the highlights of the show for me were jimi thing, dancing nancies & all along
the watchtower.  how many peope have covered that tune?  (*dylan*, u2, dead,
hendrix, dmb... any more?)

peace...
saul.


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:28 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: take a deep breath

Ok i just finished reading todays postings and everyone --please mellow out--
people are right in saying that minarets is becoming like the phish 
net--all complaints and flames (phlames) .. this is a great thing we have 
here it gives all of us DMB fans a place to talk (about DMB) trade tapes 
get rides to shows, ask questions, get answers, meet people, etc, etc.. 
why waste everyones time by posting some negative shit that dosen't have 
anything to do with the band...
	On a lighter note i'm very excited for the horse center .. rumor 
has it they'll be playing two sets ( kind of bummed of the recent trend 
in short, text book shows) ..lets hope they decide to jammmmmm...it is 
the first anniversery (spelling?) of RTT and lexington (with washington 
and lee) is a place where dave and the boys played a lot before they meet 
RCA...

I'll give a 2nd gen soundboard (extra crispy) of the 9.27.94 UVA show to 
the first newbie to tell me --what two marley songs do DMB cover-and 
cover well i might add..

	sitting on top of the world with my legs hangin free
                                                              T.J.P.
      
          ***********************************************
	  *T.J. Palvino      |..every wisdom has its    *
	  *p.o. box 131      |price, my head up in the  *
	  *lexington VA 24450|stars and my feet planted * 
	  *(703)462-4784     |firmly on the ground..    *
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          *****MY HEAD WON'T LEAVE MY HEAD ALONE*********


Posted By: Andrea.B.Korber@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 3:44 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: aware

the new address for the AWARE cd's is:
       Madaket Records
       2211 Maple Avenue #2
       Evanston, IL 60602

the number  is still 1-800-333-1245 

cd's are 14$ each and checks can be made out to "Madaket Records"

love, andi


Posted By: adl@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 4:47 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: unsub minarets

Howdy!
Um...I'm having a little trouble unsubscribing to the dmb list. . .
I'd really appreciate anything you could do to help!
              Thank yooooooooooooou!            -amanda dell lawhon
                                                 adl@acpub.duke.edu


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 5:03 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: note

To Unsubscribe from the Minarets mailing list, send only and exactly the 
message, "unsub minarets" to listproc@moose.uvm.edu

Include no subject.

Let me know <jcrother@moose.uvm.edu> if you have any problems or questions.

alex crothers		
-------------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Jeff Katz wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       please take me off of the minaret mailing list, i get too much mail
>            my address is c645417@mizzou1.missouri.edu
>


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 5:27 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: dmb files

how does one get files such as the lyrics file?  Are we all supposed to mail 
these poor people? 

                -----------------------------------------
               "Hi, we're r.e.m. and you're a storage box"
                -----------------------------------------
			      Sean Spicer
		    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 5:31 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: you guys are acting like you are two years old

O.K. here it is, listen up and shut your mouths.  I'd like to start by 
saying that I cannot believe how stupid y'all act on this net.  I haven't 
had a chance to read this net for about a week now.  And just now when I 
read it, I was ashamed at all of the attitudes you people are displaying 
on this thing.
	There is something that every dave fan must come to understand 
and respect--->that dave is very good and people ARE going to like him.  
Even if it is those 17 year old's that have showed up at shows lately 
like the vic in chicago.  Music is a stange thing, people are arrogant 
and vain about bands that they deem amazing.  I have always thought that 
it was just with the fans, but after becoming good friends with Jack 
O'neil and Cary Peirce, they discussed with me the concept of band 
assholeness, no not hte band itself for they couldn't care less, but the 
fans.  Those that think that no one else can like the band.  Now, do know 
about this shit, because I myself am up to my heels in assholeness, I 
have always been thouroughly angry with people who I didn't deem worthy 
to like "my band".  And for all you fuckers out there who act like you 
are three years old, complaining about how popular he is getting, keep it 
to yourself, it's a known fact, and I am sure we all fell funny about his 
popularity, it's obvious to us all.
	Now, I think that everyone should stray away from these worthless 
posts about everything from complaints to other whines.  Let's go back to 
talking about show that he has played in the past and recently.  I enjoy 
dave and what cute, if not funny, things he says.  But overall, quit 
complaining, I give so much credit and respect to everyone who HAS 
listened to him for a long time and have had to put up with all of this 
shit on the net.  For those of you who have just gotten on it, sit back 
and read what's going on, this should be a network to talk about the 
band, and what it is doing now, not it's future, for noone can rally 
speculate on what is going to happen.
	Since noone has written anything about the show in Ann Arbor, 
I'll be the first to tell you guys.  It was not spectacular, but it still 
was classic dave.  It seemed that he was in a big hurry to take off to 
Europe and he virtually ran out of the place.  I was lucky enough to be 
in the front row in a bar that holds about 300.  Had some nice 
confrontations with him and was happy that he recognized me from Nantucket.
(It probably helped that I had a Something Natural from Nantucket shirt 
on).  He actually said to me, hey that's the man from nantucket, nice to 
see you again.  Post-I had the oportunity to meet him on the street by 
The Hub in Nantucket last summer.  Anyways among the interesting things 
that took place was a fan(my friend) saying something about spotlight and 
him replying, "spotlight, never heard of it." Kinda funny. Of course he 
opened up with O.S.W. and ended with Watchtower with nothing really new 
and invigorating except Get in Line.  I did have the pleasure of asking 
him, in the middle of Jimmy Thing, to sing Yellow Subamarine, and he 
smiled and sang it.  Carter was really hip, Lessard whined about his 
system, and Boyd zoned out when he wasn't playing (never onnce 
acknowledging the crowd).  I guess I have really come to enjoy Pay for 
What you get,  I was looking forward to Say Goodbye, but I thought that 
Pay For was equally amazing.  Rusted Root was good again, it was almost 
halloween and some funny guy dressed up like a hooker got up on stage and 
danced his daylights out.  But back to DMB, Dave was really friendly, and 
last but not least, Moore wasn't feeling really well.
	I guess the overall opinion after seeing another show is that 
Stefan never says anything or shows much emotion.  Maybe he lets his base 
speak for him, but being such a young guy, I comend him on not letting it 
get to his head.
	One more thing,  those of you who sent me blank tapes, expect 
them this week, I'll be sending them tommorrow.  Sorry--->one more, you 
guys quit with the controversy over "being friends," quicklay and 
goodbye," and whatever else you guys call it.  It used to be called 
Quicklay & Goodbye but now it is Say Goodbye.  Someone out there, I don't 
remember, got offended by that title, that's to bad, because I have heard 
him call it that at a show.  IT'S NOT SEXIST.  "his wife and her lover."  
It's time that everyone stops complaining, good for the band, their 
popularity is no reason to put other people down. Ever.  It would be sad 
if those that are inclined to complaining had no background.  I think 
that if anyone, I'd give those at UVM,UVA,William and Mary,and Washington 
and Lee my ear, they are much more news worthy than most.
	Sorry if I have affended anyone, if you have something to reply 
then write me directly at, it's     allgood@umich.edu     if you don't 
then let's let the net go back to the basics.  Alot of smiles and 
information on the best band in the world today.


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 5:32 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: It's called SAY GOODBYE

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:
> > >So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
> > >have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
> > >sure, please post.> 
> > >------
> > >It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends."  I think.
> > >Woj
> > >------------------------------>                                  _ 
> It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
> Only Dave knows the REAL title..


Only Dave knows the REAL title....and it's SAY GOODBYE.  plain and 
simple.  You can call it whatever you want, but that's the title.

alex crothers


Posted By: MPOWERS1@ithaca.edu
Time/Date: 5:54 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: HORDE/RIVERSIDE PARK SHOW '94

   Hey there people.  Yes I am a newbie to this list.  I have been a
Dave Matthews Band fan since last Christmas (not bad since I'm in the Northeast
-just JOKING!!!!!!!)   ANyways.  I was gonna catch them at the Paradise in
Boston last summer, but stupid me, waited until the last minute and was stuck
outside of a soldout show.  But, I did catch the band at the Riverside Park
Horde Show in Agawam, MA this August.  And they were great!!  I can only imagine
what they are like in a club.  I was wondering if anyone has ac

(whoops) a
copy of that Agawam show??????????  I saw a couple of tapers in the crowd.
I have plenty of Phish and God Street Wine to trade or I always a have blanks
and postage.    Could someone be kind enough to help out a newbie?????
Thanks for the time and space!  Later.
Mike     (mpowers1@ithaca.edu)


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 5:57 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: It's called SAY GOODBYE

Dave called it Quick Lay at his show at Duke last year...now that's 
striaght from the horses mouth!

                -----------------------------------------
               "Hi, we're r.e.m. and you're a storage box"
                -----------------------------------------
			      Sean Spicer
		    Duke University, Dept. of Physics

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, J. A. Crothers wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:
> > > >So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
> > > >have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
> > > >sure, please post.> 
> > > >------
> > > >It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends."  I think.
> > > >Woj
> > > >------------------------------>                                  _ 
> > It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
> > Only Dave knows the REAL title..
> 
> 
> Only Dave knows the REAL title....and it's SAY GOODBYE.  plain and 
> simple.  You can call it whatever you want, but that's the title.
> 
> alex crothers
>


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 6:09 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: It's called SAY GOODBYE

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Dancing Nancy wrote:
> Dave called it Quick Lay at his show at Duke last year...now that's 
> striaght from the horses mouth!

Dave has called this song by a bunch of names and if I remember 
correctly was taking suggestions for a permanent title.  

It now has a permanent title, "Say Goodbye."  
Like I said, you can call it whatever 
you want but the lyrics are copyrighted under the title, 'Say Goodbye.'

alex crothers


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 7:25 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: John Prine and Daniel Lenoir

Three quick questions.  1.)Who was John Prine?  Is he in a band,  is he 
famous and I'm just an idiot for not knowing?  2.)Who was Daniel Lenoir?  
3.)  Was True Reflections written by Boyd or Dave,  or was it a cover tune 
also?  Thanks a lot!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 7:34 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: hot damn in a frying pan

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Brian S Richards wrote:

> Another couple of bands to check out are MOE, Blue Miracle, Band du Jour, 
> Supplication, and White Buffalo.  I've got the goods on them if you want 
> some info.  Those bands and others (including Jambay) are on "The Wiggly 
> Compilation", another disc that's out now.
> Take Care,
> Brian
> 
> 
Brian mentions one of my favorite local bands, Blue Miracle. They play 
every Tuesday night in the ACC college town on College Park, MD, and 
every Wednesday in the nearby town of Baltimore, both at small clubs with 
loyal followings of Phish/ Dead heads who attend regularly. Sound at all 
familiar? They're a lot more southern jam oriented than DMB- Allman's 
type sound. Great dancing, small, cool crowds, not too crowded. i just 
got their mailer today and I noticed they'll be at the Flood Zone in 
November- check em out. Ask for a Peace Frog cover as the encore- it's a 
sight to see (and hear).
				-Adam


Posted By: MLLECKNE@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:47 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Please help!

Hi!  I'm a newcomer to the dmb list as of today.  I'm really excited that
I found out about this list cuz I really love dmb as I'm sure as everyone
else does also.  I have a favor to ask of anyone and everyone.  I go to
James Madison University and I'm doing a 10 page research paper for english
due in about a week and a half.  My topic is on people who follow around
bands and have made that their life.  For instance people who followed around
the Dead for years, or people who don't really live in one place but just
want to be free to follow around the music they love.  I hope I made enough
sense.  As you can see the paper has room for change, etc.  If you have
any neat ideas on what I can write about, feel free to send me info-pleaaassse!
I appreciate any info you may have and am willing to interview you too-don't
you feel special,ha! 
Thank you so much
-Michelle Leckner


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 9:20 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: It's called SAY GOODBYE

*******************************************************************************
   'you do not have to be good. you do not have to walk on your knees for a
     hundred miles through the desert, repenting.  you only have to let the 
         soft animal of your body love what it loves.'  -m.oliver

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
********************************************************************************
it is titled 'say goodbye' 
you may not be aware that this soang has evolved and 
untertaken many different names.
it's name.. at present.. is 'say goodbye'. if there is any 
disagreement with this i will give you the most recent date 
(this fall!) that this has been noted at.
onther thing.. i'm not sure if you al lknow this.. but 
alex's word on facts is generally correct. i mean.. not to 
make certain individuals who feel compelled to correct him 
feel bad or anything..but, he is the founding memeber of this 
net.                

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Dancing Nancy wrote:

> Dave called it Quick Lay at his show at Duke last year...now that's 
 					       ^^^^^^^^^
>                 -----------------------------------------
> 		    Duke University, Dept. of Physics
> 
> On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, J. A. Crothers wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:
> > > > >So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
> > > > >have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
> > > > >sure, please post.> 
> > > > >------
> > > > >It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends."  I think.
> > > > >Woj
> > > > >------------------------------>                                  _ 
> > > It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
> > > Only Dave knows the REAL title..
> > 
> > 
> > Only Dave knows the REAL title....and it's SAY GOODBYE.  plain and 
> > simple.  You can call it whatever you want, but that's the title.
> > 
> > alex crothers
> > 
> 

love and nourishment to all.
live well, dream well.. love well.
cec


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 9:32 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: everything dates in the west with good ole DMB

WANT TO SEE A GREAT BAND:

Here it is straight from Randy, (e;)'s manager:


!     New Year's plans?  * At the Mclean Hilton at Tysons Corner in Virginia.
!  Playing in the main ballroom, whole hotel reserved for the party.  Tix are
! $75 and include open bar and all the kick ass food you can eat.  For info you
! can call 703-242-3648.  Tix go on sale in about 2 weeks.
! 

! *I don't think I told you about this yet...We are touring the west with DMB
! in Nov. and December.  Here is the updated schedule.
! 1-Nov  VENUS Di MILO -BOSTON, MA  W/ CHUCKLEHEAD   
! 2-Nov   Granny Killam's - portland, ME  w/ Jupiter Coyote   
! 3-Nov  aka club - nyc, ny **9 pm industry showcase             
! 4-Nov  STONE BALLOON - NEWARK, DE   
! 5-Nov  Bogies - Albany NY, w/ from good homes   
! 6-Nov     
! 7-Nov     
! 8-Nov   TATOO - STATE COLLEGE,  PA   
! 9-Nov  the middle east - Philly, pa   
! 10-Nov  METRONOME - BURLINGTON, VT   
! 11-Nov  STONE PONY - ASBURY PARK, NJ   
! 12-Nov  DC armory w/ the Judybats - Washington DC   
! 13-Nov  WVGO RADIO - RICHMOND, VA  LIVE IN THE STUDIO   
! 14-Nov  HAMMERJACKS - BALTIMORE, MD  W/ THE METERS   
! 15-Nov     
! 16-Nov  CROSSROADS - CHARLOTTESVILLE,VA  W/ THE METERS   
! 17-Nov  FOX THEATRE - BOULDER, CO  WITH DMB,  ALL AGES   
! 18-Nov  FOX THEATRE - BOULDER, CO  WITH DMB   
! 19-Nov  FOX THEATRE - BOULDER, CO  WITH DMB   
! 20-Nov  VAIL CO.  WITH DAVE MATTHEWS BAND   
! 21-Nov  STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, CO   
! 22-Nov  OFF   
! 23-Nov  CAT'S PAW - BOZEMAN, MT WITH DMB   
! 24-Nov  OFF   
! 25-Nov  ROSELAND BALLROOM - PORTLAND, OR WITH DMB   
! 26-Nov  BACKSTAGE - SEATTLE, WA  WITH DMB   
! 27-Nov  TOWN PUMP - VANCOUVER, BC CANADA  WITH DMB   
! 28-Nov  OFF   
! 29-Nov  GOOD TIMES - EUGENE, OR WITH DMB   
! 30-Nov  OFF   
! 1-Dec  SANTA CRUZ WITH DMB TBA   
! 2-Dec  LAKE TAHOE OR RENO  TBA   
! 3-Dec  BREW & BEAT - ARCATA, CA  FOR OCEAN AID W/ JAMBAY   
! 4-Dec  GREAT AMERICAN - SAN FRANCISCO, CA WITH DMB   
! 5-Dec  OFF   
! 6-Dec  SALT LAKE CITY TBA   
! 7-Dec  FOX THEATRE- BOULDER, CO   
! 8-Dec  TRAILS END - VAIL CO   
! 9-Dec  FLY ME TO THE MOON - TELLURIDE, CO   
! 10-Dec  FLY ME TO THE MOON - TELLURIDE, CO   
! 11-Dec  COLORADO TBA   
! 12-Dec  COLORADO TBA   
! 13-Dec     
! 14-Dec     
! 15-Dec  JM'S - HARRISONBURG,VA   
! 16-Dec  8 X 10 CLUB - BALTIMORE, MD   
! 
! later,  Randy



Thanks to all, for the mammoth response to the tree offer.  I look forward to
doing this and I have gotten abou 25 responses or so.  If you want in, email
me within the week.  I'll confirm everyone probably sunday evening by the
list and personally just to make sure that you got in.  I've gotten some
bounced mail, so check your accounts. Gracious many thanks to all who've
helped so far, to Ryan and everything, and to the one that stirs us all in
the groove. See ya, peace, Will
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
    "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies?
   ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set you
        free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  "Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but I, I'll work it out, and then I, 
           look up at the sky"-Dave Matthews Band:Dancing Nancies
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: Phoebe.T.Manchester@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 9:37 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: 'Say Goodbye'

--- Jeremy Cameron Davis  wrote:
> >So what is the name of the song? I've always called it Cheap Wine, but 
> >have never heard a definitive answer for the title. If anyone knows for 
> >sure, please post.> 
> >
> >
> >------
> >It's "Say Goodbye" or also called "Back To Bein' Friends."  I think.
> >Woj


It's Labeled on ALL my tapes as "Tomorrow Friends". Ah well.. Who can know?
Only Dave knows the REAL title..
--- end of quoted material ---


at the october 8 show at the avalon in boston dave introduced it as 'Say
Goodbye' 

__ptm


Posted By: hls5c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 10:03 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: DMB on mtv

hey all,
     I just watched DMB on MTV. the band took up an entire news segment at
9:55pm. amazing. they even mentioned minarets net. they interviewed dave and
boyd. it was pretty nice, i guess. anybody else see this?

               peace and a glass of wine,
                     heather

                     



               
 smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile
   
  "Gone are the days we stopped to decide where we should go, now we
      just ride." ---- Grateful Dead


Posted By: JSLAGHT@drew.edu
Time/Date: 10:04 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: DAVE ON MTV!!!!!!

9:51 pm, eastern time.  I just witnessed Dave himself on MTV news.  I only 
caught the last minute or so of it, but they were talking about the band 
spreading in popularity due to bootlegs and Minarets(not specifically named, 
they said a program on Internet).  Very astonishing to see, they had some live
footage(actally looked like Roseland, I did see some video cameras there).
I'm shaking.  I don't know what to think.
					-dr.oopy


Posted By: JFDITT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Time/Date: 10:07 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 335

                      MTV?!?!?!?

    At least they deserve the publicity, unlike 99% of the bands on there.


Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 10:18 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: DAVE ON MTV!!!!!!

The first person to complain about Dave being on MTV and that being a 
really bad thing and that he's "selling out" or whatever is going to get 
a really, really big wedgy from me.  Let's all be nice.


On Tue, 1 Nov 1994 JSLAGHT@drew.edu wrote:

> 9:51 pm, eastern time.  I just witnessed Dave himself on MTV news.  I only 
> caught the last minute or so of it, but they were talking about the band 
> spreading in popularity due to bootlegs and Minarets(not specifically named, 
> they said a program on Internet).  Very astonishing to see, they had some live
> footage(actally looked like Roseland, I did see some video cameras there).
> I'm shaking.  I don't know what to think.
> 					-dr.oopy
> 
> 	
>


Posted By: brosenh@unix.cc.emory.edu
Time/Date: 10:22 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Re: DAVE ON MTV!!!!!!

 If anyone else saw this, the segment was filmed in Athens, Ga about 2 
weeks ago. During the first half of the show, MTV filmed with camera dudes on
 stage.

   Actually, the camera guy was a real prick, wearing a Smashing Pumpkins 
T-shirt and runnin' 'round on stage. He even hit Boyd's violin at one 
point. Dave was getting visibly upset, often times mouthing the words 
"FUCK YOU" which I could make out all the way bavck by the board. Dave 
says at the show after a killer Watchtower..."Sorry itr took a while to 
recover from that big funky camera in my face. I'm still a damn country 
boy, and they stick this big friggin' camera in my face, and I'm like 
FUCK...FUCK" Then he played Cry Freedom.
======================================================Barry


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 10:46 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Jambay offer : Repost

If you've already replied, there is no need to do it again.

Also the Edwin McCain offer is closed.  I'll try to do it again soon.

Gray


Silence comes with no instructions!


---------- Reposted message ----------
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 17:43:07 -0400
From: D. Gray Proulx <grayp@pinn.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: Jambay offer


I think the best way we can get Jambay to play the east coast is to 
spread the word as much as possible around here as well as everywhere 
else possible.

To anyone who has never Jambay, they are a fantastic band who play all 
original music that completely rocks.

In any case, I have been given a tape to spread. It is a clone of the 
master board from 6-14-93 Fox Theatre - Boulder, CO
I have not listened to the whole tape yet so I cannot provide you with a 
setlist or exact times.  It is on 2 120min dats, but I doubt it is 240min 
long.  I will post more specifics later.

If you want this tape,  send me an email saying "yes i want it".
I should also know whether you want a dat or analog copy and if you can 
make copies for others.

I don't know if this will follow the usual tree distribution cycle & I 
will make that decision when I find out what kind of response I get.

Silence comes with no instructions,
Gray


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 10:58 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: nakamichi

I am curious if anyone out there has any recomendations for a resonable & 
reliable place to mail order nakamichi cassette decks.  Preferably one 
with stock of the discontinued CR series or a CASS-1.5

Thanks,
Gray


Silence comes with no instructions!


Posted By: LAW0001@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
Time/Date: 11:34 PM Tuesday, November 1, 1994
Subject: Yet another band

     To add another band to the growing list of who to check out,
Uncle Mingo.  These funky Charleston, SC guys have been rocking the SE for
a while now.  Get their  disc:  Fatty Mookie Mo' Booty.  Their sax player›
keyboardist plays on a couple of tracks on Edwin McCain's Solitude CD and
played with him in high school.  Their address:  P.O. Box 6510
                                                 Hilton Head, SC 29938
Check them out live, esp if you like pogo sticks.
Jim.


Posted By: nbichart@cap.gwu.edu
Time/Date: 1:04 AM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Help

How do I unsubscribe myself from this list?
Sorry for the waste of bandwith


Posted By: JFDITT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Time/Date: 2:23 AM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: mtv

I think there is a transcript of the MTV segment on America Online, but I have
 no idea how to get it. One of my friends is working on it if anybody is
 interested. It's a whole new ballgame, folks.
                                                  Jay

       "In this land of strangers, there are dangers."  -Pixies


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 3:43 AM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: everything dates in the west with good ole DMB

Does ANYONE have ticket info on the DMB/e: shows of Dec. 1 & 4?

			Thanks,

			   M A L A C H I


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 8:19 AM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Wake show

anyone out there going to the wake show? Anyone out there taping it? Hope 
to see you all there
Kristin


Posted By: alberbc4@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 8:45 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, KEP wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Oct 1994, Midn David Russell Arning wrote:
> 
> > 
> >  has anyone seen a show at wait chapel before?  if so, could you tell me 
> > what the seating arrangements are like (ie, reserved, floor/balcony, etc.).  
> > thanks a lot.
> > dave
> > 
> > 
> 
> Wait Chapel seats 2,379 people (i have a little pamphlet here on it) Im 
> not sure how many of those are in the balcony however. The seats on the 
> floor are arranged in 4 sections  with three aisles between them. The 
> seating is reserved but i heard that when WP played there, evryone got up 
> and was in the aisles and pushing put towards the front, pretty much 
> ignoring the reserved seating thing... but i wasnt there...
> there it is..
> kristin
> 

Kristin is right. additionally, I think about 3/4 of the seats are on the 
floor. balcony seats won't be bad though, still good view and good sound. 
I saw widespread there and the "reserved seating" was pretty much ignored 
at least for the front half of the floor. see you there
 Brian Alberti


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 11:02 AM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Indiana Confusion!!

Alright,
        Called the DMB hotline last night.  They said that on 11/14, DMB would
be playing at the Mars? in Bloomington, IN.  Called the Rusted Root hotline
also and they said Root would be playing with DMB on 11/14 at the Vogue in
Indianapolis and then by themselves in Bloomington on 11/15.  Now I remember a
while back someone posting dates with DMB playing at the Vogue on 11/14.  WHO'S
RIGHT?????  Please tell me.  i'm sur3e ticketmaster has no clue.....
 
Steve


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:20 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: offer closed

Thanks for the huge response (25 in one day) but some guy named kyle won 
and will be getting the tape... hope everyone who responded read what i 
had to say.. look for another offer closer to the lexington show..

-anyone interested in a gathering before the show- if enough people are 
we could get a little pre-concert party cooking

let me know   T.J.P

          ***********************************************
	  *T.J. Palvino      |..every wisdom has its    *
	  *p.o. box 131      |price, my head up in the  *
	  *lexington VA 24450|stars and my feet planted * 
	  *(703)462-4784     |firmly on the ground..    *
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          *****MY HEAD WON'T LEAVE MY HEAD ALONE*********


Posted By: WANGDE@bcvms.bc.edu
Time/Date: 11:41 AM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: newbie dat grovel

does anybody want to help out a newbie with a dat copy of the roseland show..
i don't have much to trade, but i'll do my best to do something for it...


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 12:00 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: Wake show

> anyone out there going to the wake show? Anyone out there taping it? Hope 
> to see you all there
> Kristin
> 

I'm going, working security, and will most likely tape it.  It'll be a
great show, in a nice, acoustically sound room.  But remember, there is
NO SMOKING at this show, and this will DEFINITELY be enforced.  At the 
Widespread Panic show last month, there was $80,000 damage done, and we
don't want this to happen again.  (friendly reminder to everyone who 
attends this show :-).

Dan 

PS - Anyone who wants to get a copy of the FAQ, just send me a note.
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Question Authority. Question Reality. Question Me.
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian   | source for information, you most assuredly do.


Posted By: msyst5+@pitt.edu
Time/Date: 12:11 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: dave on mtv

i do not usually post here or read through all the digests so if you have 
heard this allready than i am sorry. last night while sitting in front of 
the tv, watching mtv, the mtv news came on with a special report about 
the dave matthews band. they went on to describe the band and talk about 
their fan base that has built up over the years and so on. they talked to 
dave and boyd about randon stuff(touring, the new album, etc.) boyd 
talked about the bootlegs tapes and he also mentioned the net which i 
thought was pretty cool. they had so live footage and also talked to 2 
guys who were pissed they did not get into the show that night. it was 
one of the shows with rusted root. at the end dave talked about how he 
compares being a headlining band to having sex, he likes it to last a 
long time or somehting like that. they said that the band is in europe 
right now and they will be returning soon and dave will be putting on a 
solo show at the irving plaza in new york sometime soon. well that is 
about it you may be able to catch it again at the end of the week on the 
week in rock.. mike


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 12:44 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: this MTV thingy

hello all
	the last post reminded me of something MTV (at least back in the 
days when i watched it) always showed the news clips again during the 
week in rock on sat or something like that.  so what i ask is that 
someone let me know when the week in rock is on.  I don't have a tv but i 
can try to get the one in the TV lounge i want to see this.  so if 
someone could help me out i'm sure it could raise some karma points.  
acctually it might not be a bad idea to post the times so others could 
watch it as well.  please someone let me know bye

matt


Posted By: dee3s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:01 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: DMB on MTV NEWS 11/2

  For those of you who either hate MTV or just don't watch it religiously you
might have missed what it was that bugged me out at 9:50 this morning before
I went to class.  There was a full 5 minute spot on the band done as a little
MTV NEWS spotlight/update as opposed to part of the daily MTV NEWS program. 
It showed footage from the Athens show and interviewed Dave and Boyd and Boyd
even mentioned US as a computer group that the fans formed (kudos to alex). 
It was pretty intense and I happened pop in a tape just in time.  I'm not
sure whether it will be on again but it is quite possible.  Look for it!

Dave on being an opening band:
"It's the opposite of making love ... you gotta do your whole thing in 45
seconds as opposed to trying to make it last longer." (or someting like that)

Peace,
Dan Entin


Posted By: gstewart@students.wisc.edu
Time/Date: 1:04 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: The VIC and Barrymore Reviews

I envy all of you who are going to see Dave Mathews Band with Phish.  I got
to see DMB Thursday in Madison and Friday at the VIC in Chicago (front row
center)
Anyway, the set rocked and I am not just saying that because I met Dave
Mathews before the show.  Or that he geeked out before playing What Would
You Say because I near spazzed when he mentioned what tune he was playing.
Or the fact that Therese, the lady next to me was in a state of near
euphoria because of the band and when I was saying to her that she looked
exhausted, Dave heard us and handed over his bottle of water to her.  Or the
fact that he played Ants Marching right after she asked me if there was a
tune that would put me over the top and I mentioned that tune.  I guess
there is something to be said about being front row center, a type of
treatement and an inner connection with what is going on on stage that pulls
you into the ZONE.  Have any of you felt that way at a Phish show?  I
personally have never had the opportunity to find out.  Rusted Root is
something spectacular to groove to aswell.  I will be able to offer a
bootlegg sometime in the near future of the VIC venue.  They definitely
outdid themselves on Friday.  DMB and Phish should be playing around the
same areas at the same times if they are not playing together.  Check your
local listings.   Thanx for the bandwith! I had to tell you all or I would
have burst like a... (guess I am at a loss of words;)
                                                       Stew


Posted By: BWSIMP0@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Time/Date: 1:09 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Dave on MTV!!!

Oh my God!!!! I just saw dave on MTV news!!!!!    What has this world come too.
 In case I'm a little late for this news please excuse, but this just freaked t
he shit out of me...!!!!/////.... No video yet, I don't guess. I really can't c
ommunicate really well right now, 'cause I'm qu                 " c a u   s   ;
See I can't even type right. OH well. If you haven't seen it, try too. More lat
er if no one speaks on this.  Peace .
                                        love to you all .
                                                    brian


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 2:14 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: DMB on MTV

I'm just really curious about what was said about DMB on mtv.  My friend who
know's i love DMB saw it, but she was half asleep and couldn't tell me much
about it.  Does anybody know what was said.  She said there were some
interviews with Dav e and I think she said Boyd, but not sure.  They (the
members of the band) acknowledged the existance of minarets.net.  Are any of
them on here?  I'm pretty sure there not, but perhaps.
Have they known about minarets?
 Oh well, I'm just really curios to hear what happened.
let me know 

Thanks
alex


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SREILI31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Time/Date: 2:37 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Dave on MTV?!?

I was flipping through the channels this afternoon (not much work to do) and
holy shit--Dave Matthews on MTV. He and the band were in a short MTV News
segment in which they interviewed Dave and Boyd and showed some clips of a
show in Athens. Please say I won't see a video next week...

Steve

P.S.-- For those of you who might be interested, Dave and Boyd appeared to
be quite sober.


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:58 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: How to enjoy a Dave show......

Past and recent posts of crowds at Dave shows and my experiences at otehr 
shows in general made me think about a few things suggestions about 
concerts...

1)IMHO the best place to be for a show is around the soundboard for many 
reasons...
	a)there is usually plently of space to do the kinda dancing most 
of us Dave fans like to do..
	b)there are usually really cool people back their, especially the 
tapers...
	c)you could meet me, Clare, Blake, Gray, Cathy and many other 
netters if you are so lucky (haha)

2)Don't get super high expectations up, not that Dave can't dish it out. 
Obviously we are going to these to see them live and dance and hang out 
and enjoy the scene. Even if it all sounds like a show you've been too, 
enjoy it anyway, its still Dave. I haven't seen him since Strawberry 
Banks, and if he played the same show at the Horse Center, I would still 
enjoy it. Reasoning for this...Lots of us have many tapes, old and new. 
Alot have the same songs and close to the same versions. We still keep 
the tapes and want more. We don't get a bootleg and just save the 
different stuff we hear on it. 

3)Go with a bunch of cool good natured friends (ie find someone like 
Clare to hang with)

This isn't meant to be rude to anyone or dictate anyone's actions, this 
is just how I enjoy shows...and I'm just kinda rambling...

Expecting to see old and new faces at the Horse Center, obviously you 
know where I'll be, with pen and blanks in hand....

A Side Note: If you take christmas lites and hook them up singly to your 
speaker wire they flash with the music, it's really cool...

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Posted By: hbenton@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 4:12 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: New bands and Cool shows

     Everyone who has posted about the Edwin McCain band is right- they 
totally kick ass!  I have seen them a bunch of times in Charleston and 
they are always a good show.  When Dave was in Charleston in July, Edwin 
McCain opened for him.  It was a really good show, and Edwin came out to 
jam with them on Tripping Billies.  Check out their CD if you can.  Sorry 
I do not have any tapes, but I am always looking for some!
      About the crowds at Dave Matthews concerts being really bad, I have 
had some good and bad expierances at concerts.  Everytime I have seen him 
in Charleston, the crowd has moshed and generally acted pretty rude.  But 
when I saw him here in New Orleans three weeks ago and later that week in 
St. Louis, the crowds at both concerts were great.  Everyone knew Dave 
and they were really getting into it, but they were still nice and there 
was no moshing to any songs.  I have never really thought of Dave as a 
moshing band.  The concert in St Louis really kicked ass.  Dave and the 
rest of the band were really into the crowd, and their long jam to Jimi 
Thing was the highlight of the concert.  If anyone taped this show 
(10/21/94), please drop me a line.  I would be willing to trade some 
stuff or pay for a copy- that was a really good night! 
				  Thanks for reading my first post
					in a long time,
						Holly


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: $2,0000

       Dave is mine all mine. i'm holding him for ransom in my

       living room. i'm eating popcorn and listenening to him play

       spotlite.    for an easy answer i will set him free.

       Has anyone heard of the song "no new directions"?

      i'm not making this up. i believe i was chosen by god

      to release this song to the public. i know someone out

      has it 'cause i got it from them. maybe they were an

      angel. Somene write and take this responsibility off my

      head . hey alex,rick,clare do you have this song anywhere

      in the archives? respond before it becomes a top secret 

      element and i start getting followed.

                             
                              Reaching,Searching and Sailing,

                                      CHA.


Posted By: alberbc4@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 4:54 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: a follow up on my flame...

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:

> i've gotten a bit of personal mail saying i was too harsh about the
> quick lay and goodbye thing.  i'd just like to apologize for that.  it's
> just that i know how dave feels about the song, and i wanted to let 
> everyone on the net know, too.  i also forgot to tell the people not
> in the know what the actual name of the song is these days:  say goodbye.
> 
> once again... humble apologies...
> 
> and clare, it turned out pretty cool....
> 
> ____________________________________
> "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
>   to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
>         --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
> __________________________________     \_________________________________
>                                   \   rick thompson
>                                    \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
>                                     \____________________________________
> 

Don't worry about it we still love you...thanks for being informative, 
isn't that what minarets.net is all about? 

Brian


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 5:08 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: WHAT?

       I always saw DMB headin' strait for MTV. not because it was
their plan, but because of the way the music industry works. they 
see a good band and they see $. actually the bagman told me what
RCA calls a good band: numbers. weird. but DMB has everything 
they asked for in their record contract, like being able to 
record on their own label whenever they wish. DMB did'nt have to 
sign ,but why not? it gets their music out to more people. it 
spreads the PEACE Dave seeks. DMB doesn't have to be on MTV.
but that reaches more people,too. Life is just trial and error
so why not try everything?!!! i think DMB is on a strange quest
for the other side. it could explode at any moment but such are 
the laws of nature. "Here we are,all of us,leaning heavy on each
other..."           MTV does mean that shows will be harder to
see and will lose its homeiness, but Peace isn't meant for a
certain group of people, its meant for the world. other people
will start wiggin' on the Dave Matthews Band and you can say
 "now children, simmer down and let me tell you a story..."

            Reaching and Searching so we can ALL Sail,

                           CHA * *
                              \_*_/

  PEACETOALLYE'WHOLOVEALLCREATURESEQUALLY.


Posted By: mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 5:18 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Freddy Jones Band

	I just felt the obligation to mention a great band that have 
played with Dave Mathews.  The Freddy Jones Band can really rip!  I saw 
them for the second time in Vail this summer.  They played in a three 
band show after Jaockopierce and before the Dave Mathews Band.  They 
really ripped.  They came about as close as you can come to stealing the 
show from Dave aTheir album "waiting for the night" is great, but nothing 
compared to the live show.  If by chance you are inthe Denver-Boulder 
area, they are opening for Widespread on thursday at the CU fieldhouse.  
Granted, the acoustics there suck but get there early and you will see 
some coolshit.
			-TY


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 5:19 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Secret..

    Don't fret. if DMB makes it over the camel of popularity...

        then secret shows will exist. 

                      meanwhile....        

                                   ... keep your own grooviness shiny.

                  
                  PEACE.    -\!!!/-
                              * *
                               @
                             \___/


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:22 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 335

hey everybody, LOOK, rick's going to post without flaming....yippee....

>From: sauldude@merle.acns.nwu.edu
>
>i've been reading all these posts about how the crowds at dmb shows suck, & i
>thought i'd jsut add my own opinion.  i saw them in chicago (for the first
>time) on oct.28, & i had a great time.  but --  i do think that the crowd
>kinda sucked.  for a while i was down on the floor, & people all around me
>just wouldn't stop talking about all they had drank & all the dope they had
>smoked, & frankly, i jsut don't care.  i'm not going to rip on people who sing
>all the lyrics along with dave, b/c i can understand that (as annoying as it
>may sometimes be).  i later got claustrophobic from all the drunk
>inconsiderate assholes bumping into me & pissing me off, so i went up to the
>balcony, where i had room to groove along w/ the band.

reading this i've come to an interesting conclusion.  there's been talk on the
net since the good old days when posts were so few and far b/w that it was
easy to assume you weren't subscribed (as well as boring) about how much dave
crowds suck.  i can remember a show where dave finishes out ants marching by
yelling into the mike "hey, quit fucking around...if you want to fight take
it outside!!!"  i think it was 7-27-93, with that infamous oteal jam during
#36, but i'm prolly mistaken.  but here's what's cool:  dave is slowly working
his way into larger venues.  most people complain bitterly about this, but
since i discovered phish, i've found myself "sharing in the groove" with no
less than 4,000 other people and one thing i've noticed about larger venues
is a larger sound.  no muddling in the warehouse walls that were erected in
1907.  the sound is fuller, more open, and you can stand back away from all
the assholes up front.  i've had enough experiences up front and in back to
realize that the music is no different 10 ft from dave than it is 70 ft from
dave.  so back up, close your eyes, and listen to the music.  there's 
definitely something alluring to the idea of being within spitting distance
of carter's drum set, but is it really worth it?  name good rockin' band 
that doesn't have assholes working their way through a keg of beer?

and also, very few people can say that they've never gotten together with
freinds and babbled for a bit on how wasted they are/were last night.

>
>the highlights of the show for me were jimi thing, dancing nancies & all along
>the watchtower.  how many peope have covered that tune?  (*dylan*, u2, dead,
>hendrix, dmb... any more?)
>
sure, 16,000 cover bands who can't get their foot out the garage door.  also,
i've been told that dave's arrangement isn't as original as we'd like to
think.  apparently some folk artist from the late '80s did it that way.
i can't think of his name right now, because i suck at names.  also, dylan
never covered the song because he wrote it:).

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:44 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 335

on nov 1, my goddess who is not my mother wrote:

>it is titled 'say goodbye'
>you may not be aware that this soang has evolved and
>untertaken many different names.
>it's name.. at present.. is 'say goodbye'. if there is any
>disagreement with this i will give you the most recent date
>(this fall!) that this has been noted at.
>onther thing.. i'm not sure if you al lknow this.. but
>alex's word on facts is generally correct. i mean.. not to
>make certain individuals who feel compelled to correct him
>feel bad or anything..but, he is the founding memeber of this
>net.
fouding memeber?  well, aside from the horse latin, alex, you should
feel slighted:)

a quick synopses of a controversial song:

the very first hints of this song were played at trax and floodzone
in the middle of july, 1993.  this being a period when dave was still
doing acoustic sets to open his shows, he just came out, started playing
this _really_ simple chord progression (i could teach it to my dog), and
making up lyrics as he went along (something i'm not able to teach my dog),
and always finished it out with the "say goodbye" that's very familiar
to the song now known by that title.  with a lack of anything better to
call it, someone suggested either any-noise or anti-noise, but i don't
know which one they use, or we use, or anybody uses.  it's all noise to
me.

the song was then never to be heard from again until dave introduced a
new song that he was calling quick lay and goodbye at zollman's pavillion
in the fall of '93, though he seemed hesitant to use that title from the
very beginning.  i first heard the song on nov 2, 1993, at TRAX, where he
played it not only during his acoustic opener, but during the break for
encore while the rest of the band was pulling tubes and peeing.  for anyone
who has copies of this tape, listen to both versions:  the lyrics are really
different each time.  one is distinctly darker than the other, though i
can't remember which.  it took me a few listenings, but i after a while
i realized that at the end he goes into the exact same chord progression
i had seen from the summer at flood zone:  it was anti-noise sneaking up
on me.

for the next several months, dave made it clear that he was looking for a
better title for the song, and no matter what anybody suggested, he
just didn't seem comfortable with it.  something i was also worried about
was that he was never going to work the song out for the whole band.
when i found out that his northern shows from this august included a
full band say goodbye, i was quite the happy camper.  got my first listen
of it as it's full born glory in the parking lot of 3rd st diner in richmond
with boofy and clare.  that was a keen night.

at this point, i haven't heard it live, and i'm really hoping to see it
next wednesday, but since i haven't seen a serious dave show since feb,
not including lexington last spring, i'm about ready to take even true
reflections (it's an original by boyd, by the way.  i don't know if he
or dave wrote the music, though.  i'd guess it's dave because it's very
stylistically dave).

and one last note about the asshole factor:  assholes have the right to
like live music, too.  so let them go up front and beat the crap out of
each other looking for the a place to stand.  just chill out in the back
and 1) enjoy the music 2)actually be able to remember it the next day.


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:49 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: ooh mickey, you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind...

john prine (angel from montgomery) is a folk guitarist who has been 
around a lot longer than i have.  he's not terribly well known, but 
then again, he played the richmond classic amphitheatre in 1993, so 
he's not terribly ignored, either.  i know that saying prine's name
without saying his stage soulmates name is something of a sin, but
like i said earlier, my mind is more fucked up than any tripping
billies, even though i don't trip, so i can't remember right now.
it's not nanci griffith, is it?

maybe i should trip.  it might clear things up in here.

i don't really know much about daniel lanois.  i know he's done some
collaboration with brian eno, and i think he's produced a couple of
u2's discs, but that's about it.  (lanois wrote the maker [aka, eyes
of the maker]

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 6:07 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: hominess and more kameleons....

dave _shows_ losing there hominess?  

hmmmm.... doubt it.

just hang out at the sbd.  not on the soundboard, mind you.  you may
learn secrets about the band and then bagby would have to kill you.
just the way it works.  i almost got killed once, but i traded him
three garbonzo beans and a three day old mc'ds breakfast burrito, and
he said he'd wait until he was in a bad mood.

BUT......                                         (say, say...)

dave _fans_ might start showing up _without_ their hominess, but that's
because they sold their hominess to the mainstream devil, who showed
up at dave shows long ago.  but dave knows he's there, and dave knows
that he can control the mainstream devil's heart, and the next thing
he knows he's got a shitload of money, as well as a shiny new washburn
guitar and a bunch of really cool people hangin out back with the
tapers (blake, dan, boofy and the like.  clare and i haven't quite
figured out how to find the eject button on a tape deck, so we let them
do it).

(ouch.  damn mice.  eat'n everything in sight....come back with my ankle,
dammit...)
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: AHENNE@drew.edu
Time/Date: 6:41 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: question about Irving Plaza show

now, when this show was posted in the tour dates file, it said, "Dave 
Matthews and Tim Reynolds."  is this confirmed?  the ticket says, "Dave 
Matthews, with special guest Shannon Worrell."  so, could anyone who knows 
tell me a)will tim really be there, and b)who's this shannon worrell 
person?  just wondering what it is i'm going to see at my second ever dave 
show.  the first one, by the way, was HORDE at Old Orchard, ME, if anyone 
just happens to have a tape...
	adam


Posted By: pwchan@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 6:43 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Tape Request

I too saw dave on MTV.  NICE.  That is all I am gonna say about that...  I
have a request of everyone.  I am really into getting bootlegs of shows
that I have been at and I am missing a reecnt Dave Matthews show.  The one
I am looking for is the show at UVA's Amphitheatre on 9-27-94,  the
premeire of UTTAD.  If anyone has a copy I would be really appreciative.  I
will send a tape with $$$ or trade, though my bootleg collection is not
very extensive.  Another date I am looking for is the show on 10-11-94 (or
was it 10-13 ???) at a bar in Northampton, MA.  I want that show cause a
good friend of mine at Holy Cross was there and he says that it was
exceptional.  The same offer as above holds true.  Please respond if you
can help me out in either case!!!  Dave Forever.

Thanks a ton,
Paul Chandler 
(aka: Sheik Yerbouti)


Posted By: TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu
Time/Date: 6:48 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 336

If anyone goes to James Madison University, could you please get in
touch with me. Im going up there this Sunday, and was wondering if
anyone wants to set up a trade of boots!!

THANX ALOT,   TROY

 Email address-------     tpusateri@tlc-486.clemson.edu


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 7:04 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Tape Tree

Lately I've been getting lots of requests for tapes from new traders. (It
might have something to do with the fact that I mentioned I might be taping
the Wake Forest show...)  To simplify things, someone (some other taper, if
I can find a volunteer to run the tree for me, or if not, I) will post a
"tape tree" to minarets.  When this message gets posted, fill out the 
included registration form and mail it to the address specified in the 
message.  You will then be told where in the "tree" you are, and eventually
the person above you in the list will contact you about how the trade will
be arranged.  For more information on tape trees, see the faq (which I
can send to you if you need a copy).

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Question Authority. Question Reality. Question Me.
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian   | source for information, you most assuredly do.


Posted By: cledford@onyx.pvcc.cc.va.us
Time/Date: 7:11 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: ticket sale

Would anybody be interested in going to see the George Washington U. show 
on the 8th.  Lisener is sold out and the tickets I have are pretty 
amazing.  I spent about $42 on them through ticket(master).  If anybody 
is interested I will give the two tickets to you for only thirty 
dollars.  The show is next tuesday so please respond soon.  I would give 
a valuable part of my body to go but something annoying has popped up.  
So I would like to give the honor to someone else to take my place at the 
show. peace
xopher



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Posted By: toddb@chopin.udel.edu
Time/Date: 7:23 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Watchtower covers

On Wed, 2 Nov 1994 minarets@moose.uvm.edu wrote:

> ------------------------------
> From: i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
> To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
> 
> >From: sauldude@merle.acns.nwu.edu
> >
> >the highlights of the show for me were jimi thing, dancing nancies & all along
> >the watchtower.  how many peope have covered that tune?  (*dylan*, u2, dead,
> >hendrix, dmb... any more?)
> >
> sure, 16,000 cover bands who can't get their foot out the garage door.  also,
> i've been told that dave's arrangement isn't as original as we'd like to
> think.  apparently some folk artist from the late '80s did it that way.
> i can't think of his name right now, because i suck at names.  also, dylan
> never covered the song because he wrote it:).

    I think I'm going to have to disagree with the garage door comment.  
Most garage band I know havn't gotten past "smells like teen spirit." ;)

I like the fact that watchtower is covered by so many artists(known, and 
otherwise).  It gives people a chance to take a little creative liscence(sp?)
with a known quantity.  It works especially well for bands who are just 
starting out.  There's plenty of room to show the crowd what makes you 
you, whiile still staying in known territory.  besides, it's fun as hell 
to sing.  :)

Watchtower's also been covered by the Indigo Girls, and Michael Hedges, 
(and phish & DMB -- winston salem, right?)  I'm sure there's more.

Well, not bad for a first post, I'd say.

Rock On,

Todd


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 8:19 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Re: question about Irving Plaza show

> now, when this show was posted in the tour dates file, it said, "Dave 
> Matthews and Tim Reynolds."  is this confirmed?  the ticket says, "Dave 
> Matthews, with special guest Shannon Worrell."  so, could anyone who knows 
> tell me a)will tim really be there,

Dunno- My ticket says Dave's name only, as does the Village Voice ad. 
However, Dave very rarely plays full acoustic shows without Tim, and I 
would tend to trust the minarets net much more than the Voice, and far 
more than Ticketbastard.

 and b)who's this shannon worrell 
> person? 

Shannon Worrell is a folk singer, I believe also from the charlottesville 
area, but I'm not sure about that. Dave is particualrly fond of her 
music. He also occasionally sings backup with her, although IMHO, his 
contributions are far too minimal. There is also a cellist who appears 
with her, I believe his name is Matt something. I've only seen them once, 
but a friend of mine who is messing around in the studio with John Alagia 
seemed to know he'd be there, so I guess they play together regularly.

Now then- I for one am a little jealous of all those Virginians who seem 
to know each other, trade tapes, etc. I propose a net gathering for us 
Northerners at the Irving Plaza show- perhaps inside the show, after 
Shannon plays, at a specified location. We could trade lists, make 
contacts, etc. We could also grab a beer at the Peculiar Pub on Bleecker 
St. after the show if anyone's interested (My second- favorite bar in 
the world). If you are going to this show and would be interested in such 
a gathering, email me directly. If there's enough response by Friday, 
I'll send out a message on the net with meeting time and place. Let me 
know if this sounds like a good idea.
				-Adam


Posted By: frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 8:29 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Vail Show

Hey all,

	I finally got most of the information about the Vail show on Nov 20.
The show is at the Marriot Vail Mountain Resort and starts at 8:00.  
Tickets go on sale this Friday at 10:00 a.m. from Ticketmaster.  The hotel 
expects a sell out, so go buy you tickets soon!  Oh yeah, they are $18.
If anyone knows anything about the show at the Paramount (when, $) let me 
know.

							Later,
						    Brian Frenkel


Posted By: x51558h3@usma13.USMA.EDU
Time/Date: 8:29 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Rusted Root

Everyone,

I don't know if I have asked this yet or not, but I am still looking for any
bootleg from Rusted Root.  Can anyone help me?

Thanks a lot
Tim
x51558h3@usma13.usma.edu


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 10:05 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Lover

I am listening to the Trinity College 11.13.93 show and Dave just said this  
song is "Lover Lay Down, it is about ?????"  I can't understand who he said  
though, maybe Jean?  Any one have any idea about who he wrote this for,  
about, etc.  I remember way back last year we had a discussion on this song  
when they started playing it again (last oct, nov) - a lot of opinions about  
this one.  Remember?  Personally, I think it is a beautiful song.  


onmyway,
joe


Posted By: mxgall@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 10:21 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: Mystery Tapes (again)

    I posted this request a few weeks ago, got a great response, and
by some act of <insert the higher being of your choice here>, I lost
the message.  If anyone would be kind enough to respond, I would
greatly appreciate it!

1) "This is kind of new, so expecting words would be a little much,
but I'll do my best to make some...[seek up]"
    --This is a fairly old tape with Peter on keys...and an early
      "Drive in..." called "Smelly Shoes."

2) Another early show (Trax?) with Peter, in which D sings "Sometimes
I feel like a nut..." during Two Step.

...again and again and again, any help would be appreciated.  Also,
if anyone happens to have a copy of the first mystery show's second
set and would trade, that would be cool.  Thanks!

                                                            --Mike


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 11:26 PM Wednesday, November 2, 1994
Subject: opinion

        Well, I'm not going to tell anyone that Dave was on MTV because we 
all know!! I have an opinion I'd just love to share... As long as Dave 
doesn't use MTV to become bigger he's ok... MTV is only concerned with money 
and turns out more "one song" bands than anything else... Sure it's a great 
way to get known, but I think it can draw the wrong audience, a Sat./Ants 
kinda audience that changes their favorite band once a week... I'm happy for 
the success and I hope it continues, but MTV is a dangerous place! If he 
appears on the news that's cool, but if he makes a video of Sat., well I 
just don't think it's such a good idea.. Hell, The Beatles made it without 
MTV!!!  Good Luck Dave.....
                                                
                                                        -Fred House


Posted By: kadams@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:06 AM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 335

Please bear with me, but after all this "Say Goodbye" debating going on, 
I just thought I had some nifty little factoids:  First, the 
Any-noise/Anti-noise song has the words "say goodbye" in it, but the 
music is only similar to certain parts of the song we hear today.  
Progression, progression, progression...  On Oct. 15, 1993 at the Hampden 
Sydney Homecoming show, Dave played his first version of what is now 
known as "Say Goodbye".  The only way I can say this is because this is 
what Dave himself said in the show... "So I took a holiday, I took a 
vacation for a week last week... and.. uh.. I wrote this song, but it's 
not really written yet, but I'm gonna play it anyway and I hope I don't 
fuck it up, but if it sounds like I'm fuckin' it up, just bear with me."  
The song he played is (musically) the same song he plays now.  The words, 
well, we all know how to improvise, right?  The idea's the same, but of 
all things, he does not say, "Say Goodbye" in the song even though 
earlier versions of the Any/Anti Noise song's chorus does.  Wierd, huh?  
Oh, well.  I think they're all pretty good versions of whatever song they 
are. (Did that make sense?)  Oh, the I think the lyrics to the HS College 
version are in the lyrics file.  There was one really great line that is 
no longer included in the song that came in at that slow part right 
before he starts screaming and its "Call, tell him you'll be late" If 
anyone's heard this version, do they agree?? It's pretty intense- he 
sounds like he's about to cry.  Either that or he was losing his voice.  
I'm probably getting way too deep here.  OK, later all...
Katharine Adams
7 W. Preston St. 
Lexington, VA 24450

P.S. Rick, what show in fall '93 at W&L were you referring to?? I must've 
been there, but I'm not remembering this one very well. Oh, was it 
Halloween?? Yep, that must've been it. Hmmmm, of course I remember.  I 
have a whole roll of eerie orange and black photos of Hootie and the 
Blowfish (who opened) and DMB from that night.  Cool. Thanks for jogging 
my memory.  Can you believe, Dave was wearing a white turtle neck and a 
black blazer.  Go figure.


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 8:51 AM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: Indiana Confusion!!

>         Called the DMB hotline last night.  They said that on 11/14, DMB would
> be playing at the Mars? in Bloomington, IN.  Called the Rusted Root hotline
> also and they said Root would be playing with DMB on 11/14 at the Vogue in
> Indianapolis and then by themselves in Bloomington on 11/15.  Now I remember a
> while back someone posting dates with DMB playing at the Vogue on 11/14.  WHO'S
> RIGHT?????  Please tell me.  i'm sur3e ticketmaster has no clue.....

On November 14, 1994, Dave and Rusted Root will be playing at the Vogue 
in Indianapolis.

alex crothers


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 8:55 AM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Tour Dates

Just a random posting..........


November:
 ****Europe****
1 London, England
3 Amsterdam
-----------------
7 Irving Plaza              -NYC, NY
    **Dave and Tim Reynolds solo***
     *Shannon Worrell*
    212.777.6800
8 Lisner Auditorium         -Washington, DC
   *GWU Campus*
    Lisner - 202.994.6800
    TicketBastard - 202.432.seat
9 VA Horse Center           -Lexington, VA
    804.971.4829
11 Wait Chapel              -Winston Salem, NC
   *Wake Forest Univ.*
    802.971.4829
12 Legends		    -Boone, NC
   *Appalacian State Univ*
    704.262.3032
13 Electric Ballroom        -Knoxville, TN
    615.525.6724
14 The Vogue	            -Indianapolis, Indiana
   317.259.7029
17 Fox Theatre		    -Boulder, CO       w/ EVERYTHING
   *all ages*
   303.447.9848
18 Fox Theatre		    -Boulder, CO       w/ EVERYTHING
19 Fox Theatre		    -Boulder, CO       w/ EVERYTHING
20 Marriot Vail Mt. Resort  -Vail, CO          w/ EVERYTHING
   *formerly the Radisson*
   303.476.4444
23 Cats Paw		    -Boisman, Montana  w/ EVERYTHING
   406.586.3542
25 Roseland Theatre         -Portland, OR      w/ EVERYTHING
   503.224.7469
26 Backstage		    -Seattle, WA       w/ EVERYTHING
   206.781.2805
27 Town Pump		    -Vancouver, BC     w/ EVERYTHING
   604.683.6695
29 Good Times		    -Eugene, OR        w/ EVERYTHING
   503.976.1111

December:
2 Davis Rec Center  	    -Davis CA
   *opening for Phish*
3 Event Center Arena        -San Jose, CA
6,7 Los Angeles    }
8 San Juan Cap.    }  TENTATIVE-they will be in this area
9 Ventura CA       }
10 Santa Monica Civic Aud.  -Santa Monica, CA
   *opening for Phish*

31 Richmond, Marriot        -Richmond, VA
   *on sale Nov. 14*
   *$52.50*

alex crothers


Posted By: SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 9:10 AM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: lexington

IS there any chance that the Va. Horse center will sell out? I'm too 
lazy to get tickets around Richmond, and would rather wait if
possible. Did Phish/Dave even sell out? Response would be much
appreciated. thanks, Scott.


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 9:12 AM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Everything/Judy Bats

I know this isn't Dave related so I'll keep it short.  The DC Armory
date (11/12) that Everything is playing is some sort of "festival"
type thing with JudyBats as the headlining this show.  It runs form
12-9 p.m. and tickets are available now.  

JudyBats are an incredible group from Knoxville-wonderful vocals and
lyrics with beautiful melodies.  The tickets are relatively inexpensive
for a show with 6 bands that lasts all day.

klong


Posted By: akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 9:27 AM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: dMB Ticket prices

what's the deal with the high priced tickets for the knoxville show?  they
are $18.50!!!!!!

Jen

"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together."  --Robert Fulghum
=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=89=
=89=89
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: sbass@vt.edu
Time/Date: 9:53 AM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Archive Check...

  I have a tape question that I was hoping someone out there with an
extensive archive could possibly help me with.  I have a really old tape
from early early dave and I am looking for when and where it was created, it
anyone knows that.  The only IDENTIFIABLE characteristic of the tape is that
Boyd sings Angel from Montgomery instead of Dave.  Besides that, there is no
other talking or other things on it to help.  Well, anyway, here is the song
list:
  Best of What's Around
  Song That Jane Likes
  Blue Water
  Trippin Billies
  I'll Back You Up
  Lover Lay Down
  Angel From Montgomery (Boyd)
  Recently
  Cry Freedom
  True Reflections

If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciated! :)
[MY FIRST POST!  MY FIRST POST!]
                                Steven :]
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STEVEN R. BASS                                        SBASS@VT.EDU
224 NEWMAN HALL                                       128.173.18.77
BLACKSBURG, VA  24060-0011                            (703) 232-3984
DMB RULES!


Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:08 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 336

hey, i've tried unsubscribing, but can't figure out how, so someone please
fill me in.
so many posts, so little time.
llater
--kerry
              -shake, shake, shake, during the drum break-


Posted By: colby@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 12:49 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: help

	I haven't been able to unsubscribe from this list so if anyone can
tell me how I would be greatly appreciative.

	Colby
	
	colby@leland.stanford.edu


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 1:43 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: question about Irving Plaza show

Hey Adam,  Worrell is a friend of Daves from the Charlottesville area, 
she's been playing with Dave for a very long time, I have a couple of 
shows from along time ago where she sings Angel really well.  She also 
has a disk out on bama rags too.  It's definetly worth buying, Dave 
sings background vocals on two of the tracks.  Just a quick reference.
         Saying Goodbye,
                       Kyle


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 2:42 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: question about Irving Plaza show

On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Kyle Kristopher Langschwager wrote:

> Hey Adam,  Worrell is a friend of Daves from the Charlottesville area, 
> she's been playing with Dave for a very long time, I have a couple of 
> shows from along time ago where she sings Angel really well.  She also 
> has a disk out on bama rags too.  It's definetly worth buying, Dave 
> sings background vocals on two of the tracks.  Just a quick reference.
>          Saying Goodbye,
>                        Kyle
> 


In other news, the show is sold out.

-Ben


Posted By: ShanHop@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:52 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: Archive Check...

> The only IDENTIFIABLE characteristic of the tape is that
Boyd sings Angel from Montgomery instead of Dave.

Sorry, Boyd always sings Angel, so that doesn't help much.

-Shannon


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 3:10 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: DMB in San Jose

Does anyone know any details about this show?  Is there an
opening act (RR perchance?) or anything else?  I might be
in the area for the show but the catch is that my plane 
doesn't arrive until 8:30 at night so I'd probably miss
part of the show.  If you can help me out with some info,
I'd appreciate it.

klong


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:49 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: the best of the best

I just think it needs to be said that alan scott at W&L has the best 
goddamn dave tapes around ....I have over 50 hours of HQ dave and he 
makes me look like a newbie..what's more he personally has made most of 
his tapes -off the soundboard ...sorry for the waste of bandwidth but the 
world has to know about alan scott (a.k.a shaggy)..look for him at the 
soundboard at shows and say hi..maybe he'll trade with you.

just my $0.02

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Posted By: mverspoo@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:31 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Shannon Worrell

I know that this is pretty late--There has been a lot of talk about 
Shannon Worrell recently and I just wanted to tell anyone that's 
interested in seeing her tonight (Thursday) at 9 pm and lives close to 
Lexington ...she's at W&L tonight in the university center.  I'll be 
there having a good time and I hope that some of you can make it!!!
     Mariecken Verspoor


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: ooh mickey, you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind...

> 
> john prine (angel from montgomery) is a folk guitarist who has been 
> around a lot longer than i have.  he's not terribly well known, but 
> then again, he played the richmond classic amphitheatre in 1993, so 
> he's not terribly ignored, either.  i know that saying prine's name
> without saying his stage soulmates name is something of a sin, but
> like i said earlier, my mind is more fucked up than any tripping
> billies, even though i don't trip, so i can't remember right now.
> it's not nanci griffith, is it?
> 
I'm not sure who you mean by soulmate - but Bonnie Raitt had a relatively
big hit with Angel.  On other notes, John Prine is an excellent songwriter
who used to be a mailman in IL.  He got singned durning a wave of record
companies signing folk singers (after the mainstream success of Dylan).
Very similar to the wave of signing bands from Seattle, or Athens.

Adios,
Jason

P.S. anyone know the last time the band played Exodous.  I have one tape
labeled Feb, of 1994 with it, but wondering if it has been played since
then.  I would love to see a Jimi thing -> Exodous.


Posted By: CASERT66@snycorva.cortland.edu
Time/Date: 5:07 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: NYE

hello out there anybody have any more info about the nye show?  like
the # to call to get tixs? i'm up here in Cortland(by Syracuse) and 
that's my only way to get tixs.  Please help me!! thanks
Danielle


Posted By: BLBLALOC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:11 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: dmb & fjb & bmf?

dave on mtv?  funfunfun.  more ants to march to a different beat.

i noticed someone mentioned fredd ee jones band.  sometime.  someplace.
they are a nice new band, and SO if anyone out there is interested 
i have 2 shows (90X2).  if you want a copy, drop me a line.  
i'm not trying to waste band with non-dmb info--just trying 
to get good music out and around.

another thing--does anyone know anything about dave's father?
this may seem a little off the wall around the bend (if so, then blame rich ;)
but some of the lyrics to r&r seem to allude to a "paternal inprisonment."
and then of course there is the "go see your daddy. . ."


and one more--i'm a junior and need a major by TOMORROW.  any suggestions?
psychic help preferred.  ..         ..    .

brian.
   ----------
it's good to see a big man dance.


Posted By: eje3u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 6:06 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Shannon plus some Boyd

Some more info for those interested.
Truth is Shannon pre-dates Dave by a few years in Charlottesville.  While she
was an undergraduate here she had a band called Paris Match that was just
amazing.  We used to go see her at Trax and at the Mineshaft (back when
C-ville had two band venues, and as a consequence, much better deals on beer)
This was back in at least 1989, and it seemed like they'd make it big.  It
was her and a local guitarist and bass player (who was the handyman at a
friends apartment) and I can't remember who the drummer was.  Anyone out
there remember this? Anyone have any tapes?  To hear her sing Me and Bobby
Mcgee was like heaven.  Those of you who hear her now or have the CD are
missing out, she could totally rip songs ala Janis Joplin and we all loved
her.  I wonder what happened?  
     She introduced me to Angel from Montgomery, but I do not think it is her
on your tapes Kyle, it is more likely to be Kristin Asbury, who picked up
with alot of bands in town, including the All Stars and Alma Madre.  She's a
whole other story for another time. She sings back up on Shannon's CD.

While I'm on a nostalgic C-ville kick, does anyone have any tapes from the
*Boyd Tinsley Band*? Or Down Boy Down (Boyd's old duet)?  After all it was
Boyd who originally got me to go see this Dave fellow (and probably Boyd that
will keep me coming back)

Eric Edwardson (no sig/more space)


Posted By: sbass@vt.edu
Time/Date: 6:27 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Thanks...

  To everyone that sent me a response about my tape!!  I was unaware that
Boyd was the only one that sang Angel, I only have the one copy of the song
and it is the only time I have heard it by DMB!
  I think it was pretty much narrowed down to a date in Fall of 92, that was
the general concencus at least!
  I think True Reflections is one of my favorite songs, I hope they start
playing it again...
  Thanks again to everyone! :)
                                Steven :]
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STEVEN R. BASS                                        SBASS@VT.EDU
224 NEWMAN HALL                                       128.173.18.77
BLACKSBURG, VA  24060-0011                            (703) 232-3984
DMB RULES!


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 7:20 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: question about Irving Plaza show

On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Kyle Kristopher Langschwager wrote:

>  She also (Shannon Worrell) has a disk out on bama rags too.                                          

Her 'Three Wishes' album is on Super Duke Music and was produced by John 
Alagia.  Super Duke says, 
"Three Wishes plays host to an array of guest performerss, including Tim 
Reynolds on guitar, Leroi Moore on sax, and Dave Matthews on vocals." 


                              @:)  Toole


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 7:28 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: ooh mickey, you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind...

On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Jason Thompson wrote:

> P.S. anyone know the last time the band played Exodous.  I have one tape
> labeled Feb, of 1994 with it, but wondering if it has been played since
> then.  I would love to see a Jimi thing -> Exodous.

Exodus was played April 27, '94 in Auburn, AL.


                               @:)  Toole


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 8:28 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Rick Greenberg, Jimi Thing bass, Tim gets no damn respect

little ricky thompson with his head caved in wants to see 'say goodbye':

>at this point, i haven't heard it live, and i'm really hoping to see it
>next wednesday, but since i haven't seen a serious dave show since feb,

the way things are going, somehow I don't think that will be a problem. :)

But who knows, maybe Europe and the... huh huh... 'kind bud' in Amsterdam has
made them realize what they are truly good at... and playing stock versions
of Best and Satellite aint it.

it was interesting to see that tim wasn't mentioned at all on the flyers
which are now plastered all over the downtown NYC area (esp. in the teens on
the east side).

Benji

OH!  The only truly cool thing to come of the 'new' Dave (IMHO of course) is
Steffan's funky-as-shit bassline in Boyd's mini-solo near the beginning.

Wowzers.

(everyone compliment me on the new sig. it's clare-approved so you can't
knock it)

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "I'm pretty of lost but               * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *           I don't want to be found"        * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                -Juliana Hatfield           *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: JFDITT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Time/Date: 10:32 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: dmb in KY

This might be of interest to anyone in this part of the country. DMB is
supposed to play at the Wrocklage in Lexington, KY sometime within the next
several months. No exact date has been set yet. The Wrocklage is a 21+ bar,
but they might make an exception for this show for all of us youngsters out
here. This would be their first time in KY, so I'm pretty excited. If I hear
anything else about it, I'll let you know.
                                              Ja


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 10:41 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: the best of the best

Alan scott, is this the famous alan that I met in Nantucket.  If it is 
sweet, he hooked alot of people up in Nantucket with his tapes.  If you 
are out there alan say hi, do you remember me, Kyle the kid with long 
blond hair that was pretty damn nappy.  I tried to get the third night 
from you because mine missed 2 songs.  I rememmber you telling  me about 
all the tapes you had.  Well, I hope all is well, are you going back to 
the island?
	Saying Goodbye,
		Kyle


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 10:48 PM Thursday, November 3, 1994
Subject: Re: Shannon plus some Boyd

Eric, no I'm sure that it is Shannon.  Near the end of the song Dave say's, 
"shannon worrel on the stage." and at the very end of the song he says 
again, "that's shannon worrel." I think that Dave in very notorious for 
paying hommage to those that help h im, especially those that are in his 
band. It is nice to see him take little credit even though he is a main 
focal point of the band.  I have discussed this extensively with friends 
of mine and they have mentioned the same thing.  This bootleg in question 
was the first one I ever required about 2 years ago and I was thrilled 
that a woman was singing on angel.  She not only sings, but it isn't a 
background vocal, her and dave sing duets without , if small vocals, by 
Boyd.  Who in fact, sings on most of the others versions (boyd that is).
		Just thought I would clear it up for you, 
				Kyle


Posted By: KMUHLHAU@smith.smith.edu
Time/Date: 12:00 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: tribulations of fandom

Hi everyone,
	I've been part of this list for about two weeks now and reading the
messages has really been making me feel better about the band.  I think that
it is great that some of you can get past the fact that the crowds at DMB
shows have grown increasingly aggravating.  I think is is also terrific that
this network is really trying to put out a positive view of the band and 
spread their music far and wide.
	I wish I could get past the fact that the crowds and the shows have
changed so much in the past two years, but I am having a really hard time
with it.  I'm not asking for counseling or anything, I just wanted to say
that I think there are a lot of "old" fans who feel the same way I do.
	It isn't just the fact that the crowd is full of juvenile bitches 
who want to fuck Dave's brains out and fraternity brothers pissing into 
empty beer bottles (someone even spilled their piss on me at Pearl St. in 
Northampton MA).  This is just a band that everyone wants to get close to.
And for those of us  who remember being the only ones on the floor dancing,
the only ones knowing the words, and having DMB play from 9pm to 1:30 am for
three bucks - its turned out to be a big transition.
	I don't see why we should all adjust to the crappy attitudes of the
fans now - why can't all of us demonstrate a little common courtesy.  We all
love the band, so why don't we act like it and start to work together.  
Have a little patience and be a little nice - if you are a six foot tall guy,
it won't kill you to let a 5'3" girl stand in front of you if she promises
not to bounce around too much.
	Also I have some really good older bootlegs and would be interested
in trading for some newer stuff - especially jazzy jams.  Thanks alot.

	Kristin 
	kmuhlhauser@smith.smith.edu


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:11 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Angel from Mont....

On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Turbo wrote:

> 
>   To everyone that sent me a response about my tape!!  I was unaware that
> Boyd was the only one that sang Angel, I only have the one copy of the song

I swear I have tapes with Dave singing and them trading some verses, al 
la the John Prine/Bonnie Raitt style....
anyways...
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Posted By: captna@seattleu.edu
Time/Date: 1:41 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Seattle

Where am I? In a state of utter nonconfusion.......................

On Fri, 4 Nov 1994, Sir Buford wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Turbo wrote:
> 
> > 
> >   To everyone that sent me a response about my tape!!  I was unaware that
> > Boyd was the only one that sang Angel, I only have the one copy of the song
> 
> I swear I have tapes with Dave singing and them trading some verses, al 
> la the John Prine/Bonnie Raitt style....
> anyways...
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Posted By: mchang@changtech.res.jhu.edu
Time/Date: 2:11 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Dave Matthews Band Mailing List

Can I subscribe?  Thanks.

mchang@silver.ece.jhu.edu

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Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 9:51 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Irving Plaza meeting

Well, there was plenty of interest in a Irving Plaza meeting. I guess it 
is now in the hands of Ian from Wesleyan :) who is on the net, and who I 
ran into last night at the UMass Phish show and is giving me a ride to 
NYC. If anyone wants to hang out for a while after the show, there's 
plenty of places to go in the city of course- anyone know exactly where 
Irving Plaza is? Otherwise, we could just meet at the soundboard or 
something after shannon's set. Anyone with any ideas?
				-Adam


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 10:17 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Whooops..

 sorry to post this to everyone. 

  hey TURBO. i saw a message from you on my list but it got erased
before i could read it! write back if it was important or even if it
wasn't. thanks. PEACE.

                          Reaching for some coffee,
                                   CHA * *
                                        ^
                                       \_/


Posted By: cbs8e@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 10:22 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: really stew?

     1)  Stewart:     I just read your post of the show you just attended and
I was blown away.  You mean you actually got to talk to Dave Matthews?  Wow. 
And you were that close up at the show?  And he passed you and your lady
friend his water bottle in response to a request?  Those things are amazing
in and of themselves . . . But it gets better.   Ants Marching, the most
awesome song in the world, revered by all and despised by none, the song that
could only put you, Stew, over the age, was played at your mental willing. 
You must really have some pull man.  Cool.  Awesome.  WOW.

     2)  Blake:  What's on the end of that Phish show you gave us . . . any
clue.  It sounds like some sort of conglomeration.

               Baby


Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 10:52 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Re: question about Irving Plaza show

On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Ben Tanen wrote:
> 
> In other news, the show is sold out.
> 
> -Ben
I have potentially between 1 - 3 tix if anyone is feeling uncontrollably 
despondent.


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:05 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Re: catherine's chatter

just felt like saying that its utterly amusing how conversations go in 
cirlcles
we had all this conversation about "Say Goodbye" months ago ..wish all 
you newer folks could have been here for it.
and 2 add my musings to all the coments about bands and drugs and such...
well i thinks its pretty groovy that we know the  Dave and company use 
lots of stuff but that we dont complain about it hindering the musicality 
of the art ..its pretty grrovy that we accept fans  smokin up  or more at 
the shows .. but what's extra groovy is that even thoughthe band and lots 
of the fans use all these fun (well most of em) illicit subsbtances, it 
hasnt yet gottn to the point where people come to the shows for the DURG 
SCENE and not the laughing dancing and singing .. this happens at oh 
shall we say dead shows (which i addmttedly love) ..but we're still all 
gathering mostly for the music ..and that exaclty how i like it .. a ot 
of different people comin together for the fun of music.
so i dont mind who does what when and where ..for now that is
ofcourse opinions are subject to reeavaluation
and BUFORD!! how can i get christmas lights hooked up to my stereo ..that 
sounds like crazy fun
and CHARDY ..all this ramblingabout sailing is makin me oh soo jealous
i am stuck  here in the gorgeous valley ..but there aint no sailable salt 
water ... so could you do me a favor ..and sortof remeber to smell the 
salt water air for me .. that stuff is runnin through my veins and its 
got to be replensihed soon! 
thanks yall ... and well smile at a stranger ..itllmake em feel special
catherine


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 11:19 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: MICHAEL HEDGES!!!! that's it....

michael hedges was the person i was referring to when i said that dave
wasn't the first person to do the song the way he does it.  a freind of
my really heavy into the acoustic music type thing told me about hedges.
can anyone else confirm this?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:32 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: tape for you

Ok howdy- i ran an offer last week for a crispy copy of the 9.27.94 UVA 
show  well a lot of people wanted it and i said i was only going to give 
it to one person (Kyle won by the way) well i was just listening to it 
and its so great i have to share it with the world........so -if you 
would like it let me know and we'll work out a deal were you send me a 
blank and return postage and i'll make you the tape...if i get a HUGE 
response i'll probably have to turn some people down but i'm willing to 
make ten-15 tapes so write if you want it
---stop all this talk about say goodbye SAY GOODBYE is the name -period

-Kyle yes alan scott did spend some time up in nantucket (sp?) this summer 
i'll tell him you say hi

Last but not least  looks like i'll be taping the lexington show i'll be 
getting RR as well as DMB   so if your'e there and want the tapes bring 
some blanks and a stamped envelope...i'll be at the soundboard my name is 
T.J. and would love to make you a tape....

      ...sitting on top of the world with my legs hanging free...

          ***********************************************
	  *T.J. Palvino      |..every wisdom has its    *
	  *p.o. box 131      |price, my head up in the  *
	  *lexington VA 24450|stars and my feet planted * 
	  *(703)462-4784     |firmly on the ground..    *
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          *****MY HEAD WON'T LEAVE MY HEAD ALONE*********

ps if you live in lex i think people are going out to windfall before the 
show


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 11:54 AM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: nyarf, nyarf, nyarf...

phish/dmb at lexington sold out moments after dave took the stage, so
i really don't think there's much to worry about there.  that doesn't
mean, however, that there's not going to be a shitload of people there.
my estimate is around 5000 (horse center holds 6000).

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:22 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: i've got a story to tell......

disclaimer:  this is way long.  you may want to skip it for later...

an interesting thing happened to me last night, which led to a dmb 
revelation.  i think it's a revelation i've had before, because i
keep getting this sense of deja vu.  so if i've made this point 
before, forgive me.  but then again, there's a bunches of new people
that have arrived since school started.  anyway...

a half hearted story about why what would you say is so short now:

last night, after a 15 hour day of classes, work and more work, i
got home and picked up my guitar.  i played a coupla tunes to myself
and then realized that, despite the fact that no one was there to
share the groove with me, i was playing really well.  so i broke into
a song of mine that clare is particularly fond of that i wrote in the
spring of 1993 when i was suffering from a mild identity crisis.  i 
remember back then, near the end of my freshman year, when the song
came together, and i used to sit in my room by myself playing this
one song over and over again, because 1)i liked it 2)it was one of
the only two original songs i had at that point, and i liked it better
than the other one.  
so i would sit there, for 25 minutes or more, doing all sorts of weird
things with this tune.  and this was long before i could actually play
a guitar in any sort of respectable fashion, so it's probably a good 
thing that no one else was there.
but by the end of the summer and going into my sophomore year, it didn't
carry as much umph.  i had written several other songs over the summer,
and this song just didn't carry as much for me.  i could never bring myself
to stop playing it completely, but it does have a really deep lyrical 
meaning for me, because it's about someone pretty special to me.  at any
rate, the song wasn't the same.  it was pretty dry, lifeless, and, well,
pretty much the half-hearted song (which had become it's title over the
summer, in a fashion similar to 'say goodbye' being titled over the course
of several months).

but last night, i found this tangent like one i've never found before.
it sounded great, and i even segued it into 'hole-hearted,' something i've
always wondered if i could do.  it was so weird.  and the song took on
a whole new dimension, a dimension i hope to share with clare soon :).

now, this is pretty pointless to everyone but those of you who know
me (which amounts to 15-20...maybe 5 of which have heard the song),
but i think you can see a point.

dave wrote what would you say many moons ago, and as far as his part in
the song goes, it's the same thing every time.  it would seem to me that
he would get tired of it after while and look for something to make it
more interesting, even if that something means making the song shorter.

the revelation i had (and i _know_ i've had it before) is that think of
what it will be like for you if you happen to be at one of those shows
where he pulls a 9 minute wwus out of his ass?  and how about when he
comes out for his encore, and starts playing this really weird, erie
sounding chord repition over and over again and then screams his lungs
out about love instead of hate, and then in an instant the playing
collapses into tripping billies?  it will happen.  dave is to strange
a character to keep it from happening.

i think this is for all the people getting bummed about the way dave
is getting stagnant.


hey, new revelation:  don't worry about the fact that dave is not writing
new songs.  has it occured to anyone that dave is the only person writing
songs for this band, except for true reflections and people, people?

phish sure as hell can't say that.  trey doesn't write all the lyrics,
and trey sure as hell doesn't write all the music.
rem can't say that, about music or lyrics.  contrary to popular belief,
rem as we know it wouldn't exist.  those of you who have seen dave and
tim play together know that dave matthews would exist without the band,
albeit a little different.

but in dave band, dave does everything but create the finished arrangement,
which he leaves for the whole band to work out.  personally, i think that
34 songs in 3 years, plus some anomalies here and there, is an absolutely 
amazing accomplishment (i'm pulling 34 from the number of songs now sitting
in the lyrics file).  i've been playing for 5 years, and i've come up 
with maybe 10, if i count the songs that i hate.  i'm only particulary 
confident about 4 or 5 of them.

well, that's my $1.59 for today (maybe someone else could add the sales 
tax?).  it was precipitated by anything.  i just felt like sharing.  if 
you made it this far through the post, thanx for listening.


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 2:17 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: A Tape, Shannon Worrell, and the Newsletter

	I wrote to the net a few weeks ago wondering where (or who)
could I find my first DMB tape.  DMB has spurred my interest in 
collecting live music, and I was wondering if anyone could be so kind...
	About Shannon Worrell, does anyone else think that she is Shawn 
Colvin's voice twin?  And will I be able to find her album in stores?
	Concerning the newsletter, I wrote to Bama rags several months ago 
and haven't seen a single newsletter yet.  Does it take a while to 
process?  Has there been any recent newsletters?
	Sorry for the wasted bandwidth, but I'm curious and I think DMB are 
excellent probably like the rest of you.  If you don't want to post your 
reply to the net (or if you feel it would be more wasted space), feel 
free to email me personally.
			
				Thanks a lot
				
				Steve


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 2:46 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Re: MICHAEL HEDGES!!!! that's it....

> 
> michael hedges was the person i was referring to when i said that dave
> wasn't the first person to do the song the way he does it.  a freind of
> my really heavy into the acoustic music type thing told me about hedges.
> can anyone else confirm this?
> 
I saw michael a couple of weeks ago in Boulder, and sure enough during an
encore he was taking requests.  A number of people were screaming
"WATCHTOWER!!" (kinda sounded like some old dave shows:) ) Anyway he did do
it.  I actually was really interested to hear his version, but wasn't very
impressed.  I don't think dave borrowed anything from hedges - other than
playing it on an acoustic guitar.  Actually Michael's version reminded me
more of Dylan's original than either DMB's version or Jimi's.

BTW - did you know - as the legend goes, hendrix recorded the song the
first night he ever heard it.  I guess he was at some party (in London I
think) and someone whipped out the new Dylan album with Watchtower on it.
Well, a couple of hours later, probably sometime in the wee hours of the
morning, the J.H. Experience was in the studio laying down the song.  Some
quote I read from Dylan said, "I don't know why he didn't cover more of my
songs, they were all written for him."  (don't know exactly what that is
supposed to mean, but...)

Take care, share, play fair, grow hair, eat a pear, wash and wear,
Jason


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 3:03 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: michael Hedges

>michael hedges was the person i was referring to when i said that dave
>wasn't the first person to do the song the way he does it.  a freind of
>my really heavy into the acoustic music type thing told me about hedges.
>can anyone else confirm this?

   yea, I can confirm this (i just can't recall which cd it's on).  I also saw
 Hedges do the song in concert (sort-of).  See, hedges is a totally different
 kind of preformer.  He has been on Windham-Hill records for, probably, twelve
 years or so.  His first few albums contained only accoustic material, and he
 rarely sang on any of the tracks (2 or 3 on each cd, give or take).  Early on,
 the only songs on which he sang were covers; for ex., All along the watchtower
, come together, and after the gold rush -- to name a few.  Anyway, he is not
 that good of a singer -- but a fantastic guitarist (sort of reminds me of Leo
 Kottke, in that sense).  On occasion, he sings anyway -- but no violin, very
 VERY little percussion, and add a fretless bass, and a flute; and that is his
 set-up (although he is adding things progressively).  But, to say Dave was
 unoriginal, seems like a pretty silly argument to me.  (I don't even know if
 Hedges' version had words, and unfortunately, I only remember hearing it in
 concert in 1989).  If anyone else knows anything else, please chip in.

                                     keith


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:39 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Musings...on Rick's thoughts...

Being a guitar player also, I thought I would elaborate on Rick's 
thoughts, but in a shorter post...
Daves' guitar parts in most songs are usually repetetive and fairly easy 
to play after a while, not to say they are not incredible, but they don't 
leave much room for jamming on his part. The only guitar solo I have ever 
heard Dave even attempt to play is at the end of Jimi things (ex Browns 
Island) where he starts to fuck around abit. Jams I have heard from the 
band are mostly boyd, leroi, stephan, and peter, and IHMO I think Peter 
made it easier for the band to jam out seeing as that the keyboard is 
good filling to take up empty space.
anyways, I'm just kinda rambling, as usual
P.S. Shannon Worrell played a kick ass show here last nite that was 
around 2 hrs and included a stellar cover of Back You UP.
I'm working on tapes....
See you at the Horse Center.......  

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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
|	"A Royale with Cheese...."					|
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|	Ezekiel 25:17							|
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Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 3:57 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: GWU tix

hey i deleted the message from the person who had extra tix at the GWU 
show on tuesday.  i would be interested in buying them.  you've got a 
firm commitment, but I don't know who you are or how to contact you.  

if anyone else can indentify this individual, please feel free to e-mail 
the address to me ASAP.
Thanks
marianne


Posted By: salido@cleo.bc.edu
Time/Date: 5:17 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: need info

     Wondering how to get the FAQ file and other kool stuff like it.
     
     thanks,
     Tony Salido


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 5:35 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Re: Dave's Daddy

ok this is the snyopsis of what i gathered from an interview i read about 
DMB over the summer .. the article will eventually make its way into 
Clare's hands (our very own article archive type person) we;ve tried to 
rememebr bunches o'times and eventually i jstu kow we will)
ewww this articcle origainally appearedn in IN ROADS .. alittle 
entertainment insert inteh hampton roads paper

well DAVE's Daddy .. accordingto my memeory and this article was a 
physisist ..he came to work for UVA and broughtthe family with him 
..thats how dave discovered teh mighty c--ville .  I rememeber coming 
away withthe feeling that they returned (or maybe jsut the dad) returned 
to africa after a period of years .. and then if it was the whole family 
and not jsut daddy .. well some of them OBVIOUSLY came back 

not much of a help but its something ..andplease please corect me cause 
this is all memeory which we know ive played with a little too much

also  ..check out how many of daves lyris have "Mommy" references ..like 
Jimithing "..till i get to the end of this tunnel MOMMMMMYY"

weel keep floating
catherine


Posted By: cjarrell
Time/Date: 5:47 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Need Irving Plaza Ticket

I desperately need 1 ticket to the Irving Plaza show on Monday!!
Please e-mail me if you could help!  Thanks!!
Caroline <cjarrell@moose.uvm.edu>


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 6:04 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Re: i've got a story to tell...... (and what a long story)

The sweet and sultry Richard S. Thompson finally says:

>which he leaves for the whole band to work out.  personally, i think that
>34 songs in 3 years, plus some anomalies here and there, is an absolutely 
>amazing accomplishment (i'm pulling 34 from the number of songs now sitting

Rick, I think you're forgetting that before DMB, he DID have 25 years of life
to come up with some of this stuff.  A songwriter as good as Dave probably
wrote his first song a few days after he started playing guitar.  Now, I
don't know how long Dave has been playing, but it must have been for some
time now.

>in the lyrics file).  i've been playing for 5 years, and i've come up 
>with maybe 10, if i count the songs that i hate.  i'm only particulary 
>confident about 4 or 5 of them.

Hey, I've been playing for 5 years too.  I've probably written 30 or 40 songs
in that time, some by myself, many with an old friend of mine that I used to
be particularly close to.  I write constantly, I'm sure you do too.  The
acoustic guitar is good at that.  It makes you write because just about
anything sounds good.  But of those songs I wrote in the first two or three
years of my playing, none are worth a piece of shit.  It was me learning how
t write.  And Dave probably went through that, and by now basically all of
his songs kick ass.

Shit, I've got off track.
Anyway, to paraphrase Seal (ugh) about why his second album took him two
years to make, he said something like "I had a lifetime to create the first
album, and for the second they gave me six months.  It's quite a shock."

So I would say give Dave a break, just like you are Rick, but I'd also try to
nudge him off his ass and turn his eyes from dollar signs to chords...

Ben

(for disco dan...)

just another memo from the cellar,

**************************************************************************
*              "I might be a mess              * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
*            but I try to stay pure"           * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
*               -Luscious Jackson              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
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Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 6:56 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: UVA tapes

Alright i guess people really wanted that tape 
-the offer is now closed--
i'll be busy making the 18 tapes for everybody--
look for another offer as soon as i finish these

later      tjp

          ***********************************************
	  *T.J. Palvino      |..every wisdom has its    *
	  *p.o. box 131      |price, my head up in the  *
	  *lexington VA 24450|stars and my feet planted * 
	  *(703)462-4784     |firmly on the ground..    *
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          *****MY HEAD WON'T LEAVE MY HEAD ALONE*********


Posted By: toddb@chopin.udel.edu
Time/Date: 7:02 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Michael Hedges (NDMBC)

  Well, I'm a pretty big hedges fan so I guess I'll give you the scoop:  
He has been on whindam hill for a bunch o' years now.  He has recorded 6 
albums, and appeared on a bunch of samplers and stuff.  2 albums are all 
instrumental, 2 are vocal, 1 is live and "taproot" has one vocal song on 
it.  He is also a master of alternate tunings.  watchtower (to get back 
on subject) appears on two of his albums (the live one and a vocal one) 
is tuned DADEAE.  the three chords are fingered 444000  222000 000000, 
with lots 'o harmonics thrown in for fun.  The two versions are totally 
different.  Hedges doesn't have a lineup, he just plays guitar.  but  
fretless bass is sometimes supplied by michael manring, who some of you 
may know.  He also plays flute, and synth on occasion.  end FAQ.

Rock On,

Todd "the new guy" Beauchamp

PS - none of this is gospel, but i think it's mostly accurate.  :)


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 8:05 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Recently CD5

I just had a quick, random, completely off the subject question...
On the cover of the Recently EP....Who is the girl?
And while we're on that...Who is the guy? Randoms? Or friends of Dave?

"love.....
 love.....
 love.....
 love....."
            - Dave Matthews


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 8:08 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Dave on MTV (one more time, with feeling)

Well, I finally saw it.

And it was weird as shit... they just don't belong on tv.  It was a rather
long piece as previously stated, and the content was pretty lacking.  All the
good parts have basically been stated by different people, but if anyone is
really dying for more, I could probably get off my ass and transcribe a few
excerpts sinc I decided to be enterprising and recorded it.

The guy certainly was in their faces on stage... they showed bits and pieces
from nancies, best of, warehouse, and a tiny bit of jimi thing.

It was on the week in rock, so mhat means it's on again saturday in the
morning and sometime in mid afternoon.

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "I'm pretty of lost but               * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *           I don't want to be found"        * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                -Juliana Hatfield           *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:GSAAS41@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Time/Date: 8:33 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: "requesting information" boot I.D.

   hey all,
       just ran into a tape, (not many come my way in the cold state of Maine)
 anyway, the guy I scored it off of neglected to include critical information
 so if you recognize this pleas let me know:
        cool intro-(subdued jam)
        one sweet world
        the song that Jane likes
        a song introduced as "song about being dead, having no regrets"
        celebrate
        tripping billies
        pay for what you get...goes through a verse of Clash's should I stay
or should I go
        ....come and dance??
        angel?(sounds like boyd)
        ants marching
        seek up
        minarets
        typical situation
        satellite
        watchtower

                  mid way through the show dave begins naming various natural
 wonders ie: Mt Everest, great lakes etc. makes an anology that the
 amphitheatre at Athens Georgia is just as wonderous

                              any response is greatly appreciated
    if anybody wants a copy let me know.....
                                  thanks for your time
                                                      Gerhard


Posted By: junketw@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 8:48 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: Re: Recently CD5

On Fri, 4 Nov 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:

> I just had a quick, random, completely off the subject question...
> On the cover of the Recently EP....Who is the girl?
> And while we're on that...Who is the guy? Randoms? Or friends of Dave?
I do not want to start a rumor , but I have heard that the girl on the 
cover is Stefan Lessard's sister. Please correct me if I am 
wrong.             
				B.Y.O.P.- Tom


Posted By: Traveler98@aol.com
Time/Date: 10:20 PM Friday, November 4, 1994
Subject: help

   I know this question has been asked quite alot in the past week but like
many I am getting too much mail and can't seem to unsubscribe.  Somebody
please help, thanks


                                                                     your
fellow Traveler, 









                                                                          Jay


Posted By: JSLAGHT@drew.edu
Time/Date: 1:31 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: irving plaza

If anyone doesn't know where Irving plaza is, here's the address:
			17 Irving Place
			(15th street, one block west of 3rd Ave)

	I hope this helps, se y'all on Monday!

				dr.oopy
	"open up my head and let me out............little baby"


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 2:24 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: DMB Article in The Washington Post

I spotted this is the Weekend section of the post, and I thought it had some
really interesting parts about Dave's lyrics and why there isn't a lot of new
stuff coming out of camp dave.

take care,
brett

                        DAVE MATTHEWS FINDS SUCCESS
                              by Mike Joyce
           The Washington Post, Weekend Section, November 4, 1994

        Dave Matthews is in the fast lane, literally.  He's just left a public
radio station in Detroit and is now wheeling toward Ann Arbor for a gig later
in the evening.  "I think it's sold out," he says over the phone matter-of-
factly, as if he's getting used to such things.  Of course by now he should
be.  Since tossing in his towel as a bartender in Charlottesville four years
ago, the twenty-seven year old South African native has seen the quintet that
bears his name move from hometown favorites to a national draw, and from an
independently produced recording to a major label debut.  On Tuesday night
the band will perform at Lisner Auditorium.
        Last fall the Dave Matthews Band released "Remember Two Things" on its
own label, Bama Rags.  Within eight months the alblum, distributed to stores
from the bands offices, sold 60,000 copies, enough to rank it high on the
alternative rock charts and to pique the interest of several major labels.
Shortly after RCA signed the band, producer Steve Lillywhite, best known for
his work with U2 and the Rolling Stones, came calling.
        By then the DMB were already being hailed by fans and critics alike
for its rootsy eclecticism - distinguished partly by a free-flowing blend of
rock, funk, jazz, country, classical, and world-beat elements, and partly by
Matthews's open-ended lyrics, guiding guitar grooves, deep voice, and clipped
phrasing.  The same kind of word-of-mouth publicity that turned Phish and
Blues Traveler into immensely popular touring acts was now pushing the DMB
into bigger venues around the country.
        Lillywhite, says Matthews, was quick to allay any fears that the
band's sound would change substantially in the studio, which is one of the
reasons he was picked to produce the band's recent RCA debut, "Under the
Table and Dreaming."
        "We had quite a few people to choose from, so in essence we chose him.
But in a lot of ways he chose us," Matthews recalls.  "He never really sold
himself or was arrogant, but when he came in, it was certainly like, 'I'm the
one who should do this album.'  That was his rap.  And he said, 'I don't want
to change you.  I don't think you need to be changed.  I just want what you
do to become clearer and clearer on an album.'  His air of confidence was
charming and undeniable."
        Lillywhite saw the band perfom several times in New York and at their
home base in Charlottesville before shepherding Matthews, reed man Leroi
Moore, violinist Boyd Tinsley, bassist Stefan Lessard, drummer Carter
Beauford into the studio.  "And when we finally got to work with him, he was
awesome," Matthews adds.  "He was really trying to complement and change us.
The most frequently heard thing was, 'Let's try it again.'"
        The arrangements, says Matthews, quickly took on their natural ebb and
flow, as the other members elaborated on the rhythmic designs he sketched out
on guitar or spun improvisations around his often curious lyrics.
        "People always come up with their own interpretations of my songs," he
notes.  "And that's cool.  Some people even come up with a meaning when I had
nothing [in mind] - I just liked the words or something.  And that's cool,
too. Whatever it means to anyone is just as valid as what a song means to me.
Sometimes when people ask me about a song, I'll tell them about someone else's
interpretation because I like it more than mine."
        These days, Matthews reports, he's not writing much of anything.  Life
on the road offers little stimulation - work, travel, interviews, and
occasionally "filling the Jack Daniels gauge" is pretty much it, he says with
a laugh.  "It's certainly not conducive to deep thought.  Whatever ideas I
might have about peace, love, or war are going to have to wait.  Since we're
traveling so much together, I think the songwriting in the future is going to
be more of a group thing.  Right now there are a lot of new grooves coming
out of the sound checks, but the words aren't there yet."
        The quintet is about to perform in Europe for the first time, and
Matthews hopes to play South Africa soon.  After spending a lot of time in New
York as an adolescent, he returned to Johannesburg as a teenager and began
searching out Abdullah Ibrahim (aka Dollar Brand) another South African jazz
artist whose music continues to inspire him.  "You had to go out of your way
to find it," he explains, "because South Africa is so Euro-centric, but the
search made it sweeter."
        For now, though, Matthews says his biggest job is keeping his
priorities straight.  "The only thing that would cut my legs off would be if
something happened to one of us.  As long as it's us five, I don't let
anything overwhelm me.  Everything else will take care of itself."


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                           bmking@mail.wm.edu
even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 2:51 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB Article in The Washington Post

On Sat, 5 Nov 1994, Brett wrote:

>         The quintet is about to perform in Europe for the first time, and
> Matthews hopes to play South Africa soon.

I think I feel a road trip coming on . . .

-Ben


Posted By: dbh4n@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 4:23 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: Re: 9/27/94 UVA Tape

Just for those people who might be interested in not having to answer trivia
to get a DMB show-I have a copy of the 9/27/94 UVA show.  The show was
broadcast the same night of the show on the local radio station-so I have a
master copy with radio quality sound.  I would love to trade if anyone is
interested.

Dave Hirko
dbh4n@virginia.edu


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 4:42 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: Irving Plaza

I don't know when I will be getting down to Irving Plaza, so I can't 
make/organize a pre- show meeting. If anyone else wants to take the ball 
and run with it, go crazy.
I would, however, love to meet anyone interested at the show, and perhaps 
grab a beer or two afterwords- Dave/Tim shows aren't usually much more 
than 1:45 long. I'll be behind the soundboard right after Shannon's set. 
I'm the guy with the white, very dirty W&L hat and sort- of goatee. I'm 
about 6'3", 200 lbs. I'll try to make a few copies of my tape list before 
then for any interested traders- bring your list as well. 
Oh yeah- the guy that's coming with me is very similar in description, 
other than the hat I may be wearing. He's the good looking one. I'm not :)
We'll almost certainly be at the Peculiar Pub after the show- Village, 
corner of Bleecker and LaGuardia, not far from Irving Plaza. $5 cab ride 
at most. So if you miss us you can look for us there.
				-Adam

If you'd specifically like to meet up to trade lists and such write me 
directly and I'll look for you.


Posted By: SHCHAZIN@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 5:00 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: seller of GW tix

hello, hello

i am looking for the fine person who wanted to sell his tickets to GW
Nov. 8. looking for his reply. has he too many buyers and not enough\time to say fergit it, missie--

or, has he forgotten about those of us wanting wave money in his face
to see this show?

hope for your reply, 
shayna c.

e-mail: shchazin@davidson.edu

thank you...only dead fish swim with the stream...

		--ralph waldo emerson


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 6:37 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: I don't think this needs an explanation

Dave Matthews Band
Under the Table and Dreaming (RCA)
Their fancy folk-guitar picking and Latin percussion passages prove these
biracial Virginia jam-rockers have chops.  But the band mostly offers a
formless brand of laid-back eclecticism , tainted bys marmy inner-awareness
poetry.

Grade: C+

-Chuck Eddy



...Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "I'm pretty of lost but               * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *           I don't want to be found"        * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                -Juliana Hatfield           *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 7:44 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: Gathering at Irving Plaza

I think Adam had a great idea to meet at the Dave's show on Monday, but I 
haven't heard anything else about it.  Then again, I was gone for a few days.

Let's just set a time and place, shall we?  Not that I'm prepared to do 
it...well pre-show might be nice.  I'm thinking round the soundboard 
after Shannon with a possibility of post-show antics.  Any takers?  
(Adam, I 'm counting on you at Scott at UVM).


Posted By: ddevito@magnesium.helios.nd.edu
Time/Date: 7:57 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: WWW home page?

Hi all,

I know there's been some discussion about this,
but I was just wondering if anybody knows of any WWW home pages
for DMB in the works.  I think one of those would be a great place
to put the FAQ and lyrics files, plus all the pics and stuff that
we can ftp to, not to mention tour news.  I was just curious if 
anybody is now or will soon be working on this.

Thanks,
Dominic


____________________________________________________________________________  
| Well I've got style,          | Dominic Jules DeVito, Necrophiliac       | 
| Miles and miles,              | University of Notre Dame, South Bend, IN | 
| So much style                 | ddevito@darwin.cc.nd.edu                 | 
| That it's wasted...           | "Wake up to find out that you are the    | 
|                     -Pavement |  EYES OF THE WORLD...."                  | 
|__________________________________________________________________________|


Posted By: jtv2j@henson.cs.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 8:02 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: Re: WWW home page?

There already is one.  http://netspace.org/DMB/


John

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|John Viega                                                                         |
|rust@virginia.edu                             I can't think of anyone to quote.    |
|http://uvacs.cs.virginia.edu/~jtv2j/                                               |
|University of Virginia                                                             |
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Posted By: rblanco@emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 10:31 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: tape request, new year's eve, everything and more

Hey Everyone,
     There's a few things I'd like to know:
     1) I am looking for a tape from the show at Hammerjacks in 
Batimore (Balmer) on 7/27/94.  I'll send a tape(s) and $ if someone is 
willing to share it with me!  I would be forever grateful! :)  
     2) Does anyone have any info on the show in Richmond on New Year's 
Eve?  What all is going on?  Why do tickets cost $52.50 as was 
posted earlier?  Does the price include some form of all night New 
Year's Party?  Any info would be great, as I am going no matter what!
     
One last thing, I saw Everything the other night at Venus de Milo up 
here in Boston and had a great time.  Although they didn't play all 
that long I was happy to hear my favorites "Soulfish" and "I Don't 
Care."  To anyone going to see the DMB/Everything shows out west, have an 
amazing time!  I wish I could be there!  (For anyone in the 
mid-Atlantic region, I think Everything will be at Hammerjacks in 
Baltimore sometime over winter break.  Does anyone know when??)          

Well, as I am new to this email game this is my:

*********FIRST POST!!**************FIRST POST!!***********FIRST POST!!******
I've been a member of this net for a couple days and I'm glad to meet you 
all. :)  Hope to see you at a show soon (bringing in another year of Dave 
in Richmond)!

recently,
Rob


Posted By: CGL5671@ACS.TAMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:46 PM Saturday, November 5, 1994
Subject: RE: "requesting information" boot I.D.

Hey Gerhard,

	I'll take a copy of this tape.
						Sincerely,
						Cliff
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