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November 1319, 1994

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Posted By: laurenek@l.imap.itd.umich.edu
Time/Date: 2:28 AM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: hi

Hi all! DMB RULES! DMB RULES! DMB RULES! DMB RULES! DMB RULES!DMB RULES!
DMB RULES! DMB RULES! DMB RULES! DMB RULES! DMB RULES! DMB RULES!


Posted By: lippe@u.washington.edu
Time/Date: 4:40 AM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: So these letters go to my "trash-box"?

	I'll adress the subject line later, right now I want to invite 
anyone in the greater Seattle area to join in on a roadtrip to Portland, 
to see DMB at the Roseland theater.  Roseland seats about 1200, but has a 
cool floor setup, and tix are $10.  The other show in OR (Good Times, 
Eugene) will be the most intimate one in the NW, but it's 21+.  I have a 
D7, but not much money after that, so I figure a few people together can 
will split gas, room, and possibly let us drive back that night, if 
people rotate...

	Why does it say "trash-box" instead of mail-box?  Because lately 
that's what it's become.  I unsubscribed from two other groups (Harp-L, 
and Horde) because there was way to much garbage.  If people send useful 
messages, and apend their whimsy to their comments, it's not so bad..  
I'm not meaning to flame anyone, but let people figure some stuff out for 
themselves (i.e. less followups and clarifications), and well, I'll take 
the first step in reducing "Where can I get the FAQ?" posts...  Sorry if 
I'm preaching, I get that way sometimes, it wears off..
	Other than this recent epidemic of "Here I'll just dash this off and 
send it to a couple-hundred other people" , I like the feeling of this 
listserve more than others... more laid-back and less reactonary, but 
what would you expect, this is La Band de la Dave we're talkin' about.
	Later..
******  ERic  ***************************************************************
* FAQ, Graphics, and various info on DMB available by ftping
* archive.phish.net in pub/DMB, and netspace.org in pub/DMB 
* 1, 2, 3 TVs, anyone know what relation this has to DMB?


Posted By: cbutkus@vt.edu
Time/Date: 11:09 AM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject:

        Does anybody know any information on Dave's show in D.C. on Dec. 30? 
 Where is it, when do tickets go on sale, and whatever info. you can give 
me.  Thanks a lot.

Chris


Posted By: CO95MA19@acs.wooster.edu
Time/Date: 2:04 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: subscribe

I would like to subscribe minaress Megan Cooper, thanks


Posted By: Bernardo.Evangelista@Washcoll.EDU
Time/Date: 3:56 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: dmb graphics

please send me pictures/graphics
Bernardo Evangelista@washcoll.edu


netspace.org in pub/Dmb


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:11 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: Buford gets in line

Boofy Buford (on the drums), probably DRUNK, sez:

>Get in Line is defintely growing on me fast, anyone tried to transcribe 
>it yet?

Take "Help Myself", make it happy, throw in a strange jam that doesn't really
fit but is still fun, and you've got Get In Line...

:)

(i like GIL, though).

hidden grovel: i want more and more tapes.


BEN the man who can't choose sigs...

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *        "you can't see what                 * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *              I can hide."                  * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *               -Dave Matthews               *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 6:29 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: Boone and Wake

        Well everyone, I just got back from my NC roadtrip, and I've 
returned with soundboards of both the Boone and Wake Forest shows... I'd 
like a copy of the Lexington show if anyone would like to trade, but I don't 
have time to trade with that many people... 

        About Boone... Dave's voice was SOOO shot, I can't even believe they 
played (I am very grateful that they did!) It sounded like he was going 
through puberty, his voice cracked every time he had to sing high or low... 
The setlist was incredible and they did some sick jams, including Seek Up... 
Dancing Nacnies, #36, True Reflections, and One Sweet World were all 
GREAT... But as my good friend said "Rusted root outplayed Dave"  :) ... and 
they certainly did... RR was great and I bought their disc as soon as doors 
opened... The soundman told me they just finished recording a video, but 
they have no idea when it might be on (I don't even know what song)... Well, 
I enjoyed my three consecutives shows and I look forward to Dave coming back 
to VA.. Remember, I need a Lexington...

                                                -Fred House

P.S.- Lets all wish Dave a quick recovery from his cold!


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 6:33 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: Tapeage.

hey all. just discovered something.
since DAMABA has a record label backing them,their equipment has
gotten alot phatter..................

therefore making our bagbies sound way,way phat with a capital PH.

with so many decks making their way to soundboard, I commented to the
Bagman why Phish can't allow soundboard patches anymore and how long
till Dave gets this problem.... 
he looked at me like I had insulted him and said, " don't worry,i'm cool."
if i had had half a  Z  he would have gotten it free of charge.

    
                   onwards children,towards the sun,

                              CHA * *
                                  \_/

as a side note:
       i wrote that the new jam (if they play it again) should
suggestedly be called " Violet Ivy " well....
i listened to it without the lights and maybe it should be called
  " Violent Ivy " (amazing how one letter changes the meaning of a
word.)
or maybe " Violent Ivy and the Marsupial "(song sounds like Australia)
or maybe " Aussie Ivy "
or maybe...ouch...someone just hit me on the head with an umbrellla...


Posted By: REIDENOUE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:47 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: a tidbit or too for me and you

I don't know exactly who puts all the time and effort into compiling the 
FAQ file, but I just wanted to say thank you.  I just wanted to make one 
little eensy-weensy, itsy-bitsy correction.  In the cover section, it 
said that DMB does the song Watchtower (as we all know) by Jimi Hendrix.  
I wanted to make it known that, while Hendrix made this song popular, it 
was written by Bob Dylan.  I don't say this to flaunt my superior 
knowledge because, god knows, there are MANY poeple out there who know 
more about music than I.  I just wanted to make sure that  the FAQ file 
is entirely accurate.  Once again, thanks to all those who put the file 
together - it's a tremendous contribution.

Oh yeah.  Regarding the cover section, I would like to get my hands on 
Nature (Samples) and Sympathy for the Devil (Stones).  I'm aways looking 
for a trade anytime, anywhere, so drop me a line if you're interested.  I 
have many DMB shows with all the other covers + songs you don't hear anymore.

"I'll take some Vitamin C and you to."
			-Dave


Posted By: messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 7:17 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 TREE!

This is the official announcement for the 11/11/94 DMB Tape Tree.  This
show was recently taped at Wait Chapel, and by all accounts was an
excellent show.  Many thanks to Dan for providing me with this seed.  The
show fits on 2 90 min tapes.  The signups for this tree will last until
midnight, Tuesday Nov. 15.  Any signups taken after that date will not be
accepted!  Unless you ask nice, then only maybe :-) Please fill out the
following tree signup for and return it to me at the following address:
Messierb@ucsuc.Coloardo.edu

*************OFFICIAL TREE SIGNUP FORM!!!!!!! **************************

Full Name: 

E-Mail Address: 

Postal Address: 

How Many Tapes will you make: 

Please describe your taping equipment:

Do You want to Trade or Send blanks for this show:

What is your Favorite Color:

Any Additional Comments:

**********************************************************************

Please send the above form to me at Messierb@ucsuc.colorado.edu
with a subject of "Branch" or "Leaf"

Peace & Out...

Brad


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 8:07 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: Re: a tidbit or too for me and you

> 
> I don't know exactly who puts all the time and effort into compiling the 
> FAQ file, but I just wanted to say thank you.  I just wanted to make one 
> little eensy-weensy, itsy-bitsy correction.  In the cover section, it 
> said that DMB does the song Watchtower (as we all know) by Jimi Hendrix.  
> I wanted to make it known that, while Hendrix made this song popular, it 
> was written by Bob Dylan.  I don't say this to flaunt my superior 
> knowledge because, god knows, there are MANY poeple out there who know 
> more about music than I.  I just wanted to make sure that  the FAQ file 
> is entirely accurate.  Once again, thanks to all those who put the file 
> together - it's a tremendous contribution.
> 

I would assume that reference is to the fact that Bob Dylan himself
says that Watchtower is Hendrix's song.  Dylan may have written it,
but Hendrix made it.
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Question Authority. Question Reality. Question Me.
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian   | source for information, you most assuredly do.


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 8:53 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: pics

Can someone tell me how to view the pics in the graphics file through 
mosaic? I can't seem to launch the viewer... 

thanks...

sean

                -----------------------------------------
               "Hi, we're r.e.m. and you're a storage box"
                -----------------------------------------
			      Sean Spicer
		    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 9:05 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: Boulder tix

Hi all, if anyone out there has an extra ticket for any of the Fox 
theater shows Nov 17, 18, or 19, please let me know.  Regardless, hope to 
see you at the Fox on the 17th and in Vail on the 20th.  Sucks to be 
forced to go to the all ages show, but I guess thatis the way it goes 
when your birthday is on the 21st and Dave is playing on the goddamn 
17-20th. Shit!
			-TY


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 9:42 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: Jambay 6-14-93 Tree Structure

The following is the tree structure for Jambay - Fox Theatre 6-14-93.  
I didn't really intend on it being a tree, but the response was large 
enough.  The only people that have to make tapes are the ones that 
offered to make them.  The show is approximately 180min long so it should 
fit on 2 90s.

D>D        D>A     A>A

Gray Proulx - grayp@pinn.net
      Alex Crothers - jcrother@moose.uvm.edu
          Dan Grelling - grelling@cae.wisc.edu
               Colleen Waldron colleen@fred.secap1.com
               Bob Flahety - flats@WPI.edu
               Geoffery Walton - satelite@music.cc.uga.edu
          Brian - BLBLALOC@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
               Ashley Snowdon - ahs@leland.Stanford.Edu
               Jeffery Heys - malachi@leland.Stanford.Edu
       William Lakenan - wl1o+@andrew.cmu.edu
          Walt Blacker - whb4@cornell.edu
               Amanda Tarr - att333@nwu.edu
               Marc Escobosa - Marc.Z.Escobosa@Dartmouth.Edu
          Barrett Shaver - Barrett.S.Shaver@Dartmouth.Edu
               ? - clf132@psu.edu
               Alexis Ionnita - azi6603@email.unc.edu
          Chris Vaught - vaught@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
               Mike Makunas - mmakunas@emerald.tufts.edu
               Shawn Peters - gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
          Michael Corr - mgcorr@Colby.edu
               Dave Culp - I12SNOSKI@aol.com
               Erik Anderson - eja1@Lehigh.Edu
       Joe Doheny - ROHO33.MAH76X@rohmhaas.com
          Jeremiah Van Hecke - miah@merle.acns.nwu.edu
               Vince Deters - Deters@m5.mtc.com
               jogriffith@vaxsar.vassar.edu
          Don Tidwell - DTidwell@aol.com
               Will Foy - Wifoy@Davidson.edu
               Jeffery Heys - malachi@leland.Stanford.Edu
               Bernardo Evangelista - Bernardo.Evangelista@Washcoll.EDU
          Jeremy Davis - jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
               Erin Keys - Erin.Keys@mail.cc.trincoll.edu
               Tyson McElvian - mcelvain@ucsu.colorado.edu
          Shannon Hopson - ShanHop@aol.com
               Brian Richards - brichar1@emerald.tufts.edu
               Sean Berry - sean.berry@mail.cc.trincoll.edu

Well, thats it.  Sorry it took so long, but I don't think I'm happy 
unless I have too much to do.  If there are any questions, conflicts or 
suggestions, feel free to email me at grayp@pinn.net

Enjoy,
Gray


Silence comes with no instructions!


Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 10:00 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: Questions about MIDI....

I have got a couple of question rearding MIDI that I'm hoping some of you 
may be able to help me out with.  Now that I have myself a little time 
between quarters I have been messing around with my new computer and 
found that I have the capability to use MIDI in a multitude of different 
ways.  I have a 16 bit sound card and a MIDI orchestrator program built 
in, allowing me to record up to 16 different tracks and combine them, 
like a little recording studio.  Ok, about my questions.  First of all, I 
need an instrument to play into the computer.  My brother has a multitude 
of guitars that he runs through a nice little processor with a MIDI in 
and out jack in the back.  Can I then run the guitar through the 
processor and then into the computer, similar to running a keyboard into 
the computer?  The other thing that I need to know is how much a MIDI 
connector cable costs.  If there is anyone that has worked with this I'd 
love to hear from you, stuff like what it's like, any suggestions, etc.  
Thanks!

-Just a student with a little too much unstructured playtime!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: bdk@umich.edu
Time/Date: 10:11 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject:

I'm new to the DMB internet--just wanted to say hello and see if its working.
bdk


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 10:50 PM Sunday, November 13, 1994
Subject: angel lyrics

I know it isn't dave's but i thought it would be nice to throw it in the  
lyrics file since he does play it every now and then.

on my way,
joe

Angel from Montgomery
-John Prine

i'm an old woman named after my mother
old man's another, childless "__?__"
dreams were lightning, thunnder, desire
so house would abandon
long time ago

make me an angel that flies from montgomery
make me a poster of an old rodeo
just give me one thing that I can hold onto
to believe in this living is just a hard way to go

when I was a young girl 

i had me a cowboy
he won't much to look at
just a free frambling man
that was a long time no matter how I try 

his dreams seem to go by like a broken down "wheel?"

make me an angel that flies from montgomery
make me a poster of an old rodeo
just give me something that I can hold onto
to believe in this living is just a hard way to go

flies in the kitchen
I can hear them a buzzin'
lord i ain't done much since I woke up today
how the hell can a person who works in the morning 

come home in the evening have nothin' to say

make me an angel that flies from montgomery
make me a poster of an old rodeo
just giving me something that I can hold onto
to believe in this living is just a hard way to go 

to believe in this living is just a hard way to go 

to believe in this living is just a hard way to go.

	-couldn't figure out "broken down......"
	-nor "childless...."


Posted By: laurenek@l.imap.itd.umich.edu
Time/Date: 12:41 AM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Re: angel lyrics

Hey!  Dan went home so he can't e-mail anymore.  If he promised you a
boot leg, it's in the mail.  You can write to him at home-
                Daniel Kantor
                2673 Rachel St.
                Bellmore, N.Y. 11710
                (516) 783-3680
Thanks a lot!


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 2:48 AM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: she shells she shells by the she shore

I have a few quick questions,

1) I just talked to a guy at Red Light who told me that the Marriot was 
giving special room rates for anyone who had tickets to the NYE show -but 
when I called the Marriot they said that they were not.  Is there a magic 
word I should say when I call the Marriot again?

2) While I'm at my home in Northern VA over the break is there any way I 
can logon to one of the area schools' systems, as a guest or something?  
Or do I have to wait and come back to 852,000 messages (an exact estimate:)

3) What harmonica-key does Peter play on So Much To Say?

4) Do carpet bunnies eat carpet carrots?


                       :)  Toole

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
            'You cannot laugh and be unkind at the same time.'
                        -Kahlil Gibran
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Posted By: toddb@chopin.udel.edu
Time/Date: 6:59 AM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: guitar preamps (NDC)

hey all, All non guitar players can feel free to ignore this:

I just bought a  thinline gold martin pickup for my alverez-yeri 
6-string.  And I was thinking about using my 4-trak rack as a guitar rack 
when I play out, but I still want a true guitar sound.  I know many of 
you play, so I was wondering if anyone had any good outboard pre-amp 
suggestions in the $300 or so price range.  Rack mountable would be a 
dream.  Thanks!

_______

Todd Beauchamp (toddb@chopin.udel.edu)       
      
Quit School;  make music.
_______


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:06 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: poems

hey all you creative types heres something to keep you busy..
send me a short (about ten lines) poem about why you love DMB so 
much..and why the band is the best in this world.

the best poet will get to chose a dave show of my list, which includes 
many, many soundbords and the much wanted lexington show...



          ***********************************************
	  *T.J. Palvino      |..every wisdom has its    *
	  *p.o. box 131      |price, my head up in the  *
	  *lexington VA 24450|stars and my feet planted * 
	  *(703)462-4784     |firmly on the ground..    *
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          *****MY HEAD WON'T LEAVE MY HEAD ALONE*********


Posted By: sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 12:50 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Knoxville

The Knoxville set was excellent.  Not much new, and dave still had vocal
problems, but he diddn't let it bother them at all.  Seek Up  Nancies  Best
of Whats Around, OSW, True Reflections, Lie in our Graves, Satellite, 36,
recently, ants, warehouse, jimi, Angel, christmas, watchtower, ect.(not in
order).  Jimi was great as usual.  Boyd got to sing twice and thats always
good.  The crowd was fourteen and female.  Its funny to watch them ie.
after 36, or the intro to tripping billies.  They have no idea whats about
to come so you can watch them as they go nuts when the song, as they know
it on cd starts.  Although young, they behaved well.  no moshing.  Dave and
leroi hung out after for a while.  Always good chatting with the boys
  Enjoy.
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 1:13 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: to clear something up

Hello all you lovely people you :)

	The day after Lexington (i know cause i was still happy about my 
first DMB show) a message got posted to minarets about exclusivity (damn 
that's hard to spell) of the net.  Well the night before i had the 
ability to meet a couple of the reguliars so I decided to try and help 
them and help jerm understand what i think i do.  What insued was a small 
discussion on the matter.  As with most things after a little discussion 
what was really meant came out.  This is a letter i got from jerm that 
explains what he meant.  I'm posting this since some people might delete 
it with out reading it if he posts it.  What you guys had missed before 
this letter was basically just me explaining that the reguliars here (or 
at least the one's i've met) are cool as shit people who are very 
freindly.  The reason this net is diffrent then mosts is (or so i think) 
that the reguliars are close freinds.  More than just see each other at 
shows and may be share a beer afterwards but are really freinds this was 
the responce i've gotten from jerm and he said it was cool if i posted 
this.  so read and understand.  I hope this clears things up.

Forwarded message:
> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 10:43:51 +0001 (EST)
> From: Jeremy C Graves <jgraves@world.std.com>
> Subject: Re: exclusivity stinks (long)
> To: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
> 
> However, minarets is a public forum, supposedly open for all dmb fans to 
> read and contribute what they like. As such, I still think it needs to be 
> a little more open then it currently is, and THAT is why I posted that 
> message.
> 
> I want newbies to crawl out of the corner and feel free to say their 
> share.  I want the oldies to offer up wisdom and cool stories about dave 
> & co., while being a little more specific when lamenting some ass at a show.
> That's all.

(this is what i said i was going to send but to give jerm a human side 
i'm going to throw this into hope he doesn't mind)

> 
> I would love to meet the old crew, although living in Boston makes that 
> unlikely.  I'm sure they are great people.  I guess I'm just hoping they 
> will become more aware of everybody else.  I don't want anyone to stop 
> posting or talking to each other.  I guess I just want everybody to feel 
> like they can contribute.
> 
> Again, I've received more email from people, both old and new, who at 
> least partially agree with what I wrote.  I know I'm not the only one who 
> feels this way, and I'm just trying to remedy this rather simple problem. 
> 
> As usual, it's been a pleasure.
> 
> peace and good listening,
> jerm

Hope this clears things up.  It is a bit of a problem but a double sided 
problem at that.  The old timers can't (and shouldn't) stop being and 
acting like freinds.  So the new people got to throw some words in now 
and then.  But it isn't just all newbie stuff problems the old timers got 
to remember this isn't the old days when everyone knew eachother and you 
knew where all the toes were so you didn't step on any.  Umm. ever lose 
your train of thought mid sentence.  Shit what else was I going to say 
shit.  Oh well I hope i didn't step on to many toes here and screw things 
up any more and if i ever remember what the hell i was going to say i'll 
let you know.  sorry for the length bye

matt


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 1:23 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: My posts

To all of those people out there who can't see the forest for the trees, let me
please point out that if you would stop digging through my posts looking for
things to rant about, and read it in it's entirity, you will see that it was
*gasp* and apology!! I'm sorry if I didn't take the time to explain myself
completely, but frankly I didn't want to waste anymore bandwidth than I already
was. I felt the need to apologize and clarify the meaning of
"Dave-come-latelies", and admittedly I didn't do a very good job of it, but
that cannot be done in words, it's something that you must experience for
yourself. If you read the message then you weren't the type of person I was
talking about. Anybody who cares enough or likes Dave's music enough to
subscribe to the net is automatically excluded. To all of those who could care
less about this little exchange, I apologize for making you read this. To
everybody else, I apologize for wasting bandwidth. To those who have a problem
with what I said, spare the netters, write me directly. And for God's ake, stop
being offended by things that don't exist, and read the posts in the context
that they were written.
			
"On the fence so as not to offend"
							Kev :-Q

no pointless Dave quotes today, I'm quite pissed.

Today only, smoking is not only allowed but ENCOURAGED in my message.


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:25 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Re: colored ivy and new songs

i like calling the new  thing
justajam
i  like to say it real fast
and repeat it lots
but if violet or violent ivy works for you 
cool
catherine


Posted By: jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu
Time/Date: 1:29 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Re: Boone and Wake

Hey guys, this is to all with a little personal to Fred added.
First off, I met Fred at the show and he's cool, so don't be harsh and 
flame him.
Secondly, Fred went on a minor road trip compared to mine (boston to 
Delaware and then a 9 hour road trip with my best friend.)  Just a 
question: no offense to the Appalachian state people, but why the hell 
did the management pick a venue in a town where the traffic lights are 15 
min apart from each other?   I gue   this question comes from going to 
school up here in Boston, where you can spit from one light to the next( 
although I haven't tried.)
Finally, about the Boone show...
Before Dave and co. came out, I thought that the crowd was going to be as 
horrible as this summer Paradise crowd.  My best friend and I were up at 
the front, because we like to talk to the band while they're playing.  
While patiently waiting for the boys to take stage, we witnessed a 6 foot 
tall girl punch a 5 foot tall girl in the face, simply because she was 
trying to get where she could actually see any of the band members.
But anyway, Fred was right about Dave's voice being shot, but he was 
totally wrong about RR outplaying daveband.  The reason RR could have 
been deemed as putting on a better show than the boys is because to my 
knowledge, none of them were sick.  I know for a fact that most of the 
guys were jet lagged from their recent excursion to Europe and they 
caught cold.  Boyd, Dave and Carter were all sick with colds, Leroi was 
admittedly a bit hungover... Stefan was happy and even a bit bouncy and 
although I didn't get to talk to him, he seemed the only one in fine 
form.  
Dave said on stage that they were all jamming pretty hard, which I agree 
to considering how shiity they were feeling.  Correct me if I'm wrong, 
but I think it's been a while since true reflections was heard.  The band 
playing it on Sat night was not because they missed playing it, but 
because Dave was about to lose his voice and Carter said that they did it 
to give him a break.  If anyone has or gets the tape, they will see that 
Dave's voice is almost totally gone for #36, and it was really painful 
for me to see the physcial suffering that Dave was going through as he 
literally grasped for some notes.  Another significant downer was that 
they started to play Drive In, Drive Out, which Leroi told me before the 
show was a definite possibility, but it switched into SATELLITE.  That 
stunk.  But that's beside the point.  It was good to hear Lie In and True 
Reflection , no matter what the reason.  Because of Dave being under the 
weather, there were no funny Dave-isms and the could-I-have-beens for 
Dancing Nancies were strictly from the CD.  
Considering what they were going through physically at the time of the 
show, I think that they did a fabulous job.  Anyone who was at the show 
and has any complaints about the performance should know that the band 
felt like shit themselves about the performance and should take that into 
consideration before they wine bitch about being let down.
Congrats to those of you who made this far, you are now an honorary meber 
of the patience club.
Thanks for dealing with my little mini-paper on the Boone show.  Listen 
to live Dave, do your best to be happy, and please let the 5-5 and under 
people in front of you if they politely ask you to let them by when you 
happen to be a huge 6 ft and above person.  
                                            Sweetness and Love,
                                                 Jen
p.s. Desperately seeking to trade for the Oct 1 Phily show. Can anyone 
help me out?

LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WORRY ABOUT INDENTING!!
jf


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:31 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Tripping billies intro and thoughts...

Ahh, well I am quite happy to heard the good ole intro back. Yet I am 
eagrly awaiting the screams full band version of summer 93. Anyways I 
have some brainstorms on this subject...

While we might all know it now, it must be pretty cool for newer fans to 
hear an intro you've never hear to a fav song of yours. I remember the 
first time I heard the long full band intro, I went orgasmic, well not 
really but you know what I mean. Or Wait Chapels little Satellite intro, 
that was pretty cool. The PB&Jam/JustAJam/Violent Australain Ivy Plant 
Jam into Halloween at Lex/Wait was hot also. Anyone who was at or has 
7-14-93 flood zone and has heard the funky warehouse intro will know 
exactly what I am talking about. Dave is actually doing a good job to 
confuse/suprise both groups of fans. The new ones are exited about 
suprises we know about. We're exited about ones we don't. 

On humourous DaveSpeak....I think its funyn that Dave plugged his 
merchandise in a church and ever condemned himself for it....

Se you in jail....hehehehe


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|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:42 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Oooppssss......

Sorry I send that pointless little tidbit to all of you instead of jsut 
rick, I guess you'll all know it now.....

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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
|	"A Royale with Cheese...."					|
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|	Ezekiel 25:17							|
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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:41 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: FAQ update idea......if you care......

Rick,

	If you want some more pointless info that someone might care 
about here it is.

Bama Rags release 0002, as you probably have seen/own, was a radio promo 
CD that contained a earlier edit of Recently (even worse), an Ants radio 
edit (nixed the 30 sec snare tap) and CD cuts of Jane and Tripping (i 
think, mybe OSW) and has almost the same cover, except the two people are 
in different positions and one is holding a pumpkin (hint for Halloween 
on CD? i don't know. 
 
I just figure some knowledeg guru might be interested in this fact, or 
ask why R2T is Bama 0001 and Recently is 0003

Just for the hell of it....

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|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
|	"A Royale with Cheese...."					|
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|	Ezekiel 25:17							|
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|v4.0									|
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Posted By: Wojkowsk@cleo.bc.edu
Time/Date: 1:50 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: GSW dates

I know this is the DMB net but I thought you all would like to know 
that God Street Wine is playing down south.  For those of you that 
don't know of them, go see them, I garuntee you will have a good time.

Nov 16  Duke University
Nov 17 Greenville, NC--Pleasant's Cafe
Nov 18 Winston-Salem--Ziggy's
Nov 19 Charlottesville, VA--Crossroadas music hall
Nov 21 Richmond--Floodzone

Have fun and when you walk into the dawn you must put your slippers on


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 2:04 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Minarets History coming tomorrow.

Hey all.  I'm working on the next issuer of the minarets history.

You'll have it tomorrow sometime.

-Ben

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      "We needed a vacation, but the concept was unthinkable.... 
       How could you take a vacation from life?"   -- Vin Scelsa


Posted By: SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:12 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: lex and wait

can somebody tell me how different were the lex and wiat shows. From
the posts they sound quite similar. I got more soul than a sandal.


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:16 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Re: lex and wait

well as brett said on the difference and variety among the lex and wait shows
"I could have gotten more variety by hitting random on my cd player" 
while UTTAD was playing.
but but
the feeling was much different
for starters .. when i came home from lex .. i could smell the multiple 
types of fagrant second hand smoke
when i got in the car after wait .. there was no smoke to be smelt 
because it was purest ..maybe event innocent show ive ever been to

the crowd at lex. is also much more familar with the band and maybe it is 
that the band knows how to play to the crowd.  at lex much was expected 
and lots was received jammy funky wise as well as dancin smiley wise .. and 
and at wait the cd 
was expected and that was given with lots of davey showmanship to  boot

comparing the set lists youll see a slight difference .. comparing the 
lenghts of the 2 ill bet lex is way way longer ..its all in the mood

atleast in my mind
catherine


Posted By: gottlieb@bu4090.barry.edu
Time/Date: 3:31 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Tape covers

Has anyone who listens to DMB created tape covers for the live shows?


Posted By: akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 3:33 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: DMB in Knoxville

dave put on another great show last night despite problems with his voice.
not much different from any other set lists i've seen posted lately, but
for me i enjoyed True Reflections and Angel from Montgomery which i haven't
heard in a while.  boyd and carter both had awesome shows and i even saw
steffan SMILE and look up at the crowd for once!

the venue was the electric ballroom which is pretty large and i was worried
about the crowd at first.  however, it turned out pretty good with no
moshing or extreme crowing.  in fact, justin and i even made enough space
to get in some really good dancing right up front (i like being where i can
see carter).  we made some great new friends from alabama and we might even
go to nye with them!

overall, the crowd seemed to be mainly new-comers to live dave shows  and
we got some really wierd stares during Lie in our Graves and #36 etc. cause
we were singing at the top of our lungs and dancing our asses off.  i'm
sure i was being completely annoying, but i just couldn't help myself.
however, i think dave the lady killer really got a kick out of the dozen or
so teenage (interpret very young) girls that stood right in front of him
and drooled and squealed throughout the show.  they were absolutely
hilarious (i don't mean this as an insult) and dave just ate up all the
attention!

When the crowd did know a song, they really got into it and had a great
time DANCING, not just swaying or moshing.  the best part was watching the
unsuspecting look  on crowd's faces during that new intro to tripping
billies suddenly burst into huge smiles and all get-out when the familiar
part came around.  that's what makes dave so special... the surprises. i
think the new guys are kinda luck cause they don''t always know what's
coming up.  justin always wants to know the set list ahead of time but i
just enjoy finding out as the show goes along.  keeps it interesting!!!

however, that's not to say that dave doesn't keep the average bootleg fan
on his toes.  example: they added a new little pause right before the
"yeah! yeah!" in tripping that kicks ass!!!

i was really excited to hear christmas song since i've never heard it live.
again, the crowd was great and remained almost perfectly quiet as dave
pulled off a spine-tingling solo despite his strained voice.  he said he
had to go ahead and sing it now since he wouldn't be back this way till
later next year.  :-(

overall i say it was a great performance and just goes to show that these
bigger crowds CAN be a lot of fun if ya just give them the chance.  granted
i will always love and remember the "reach out and touch the band" venues
of the old days, but i can learn to share as long as i can still see
carter's smile and dance like no tomorrow!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together."  --Robert Fulghum
"Lost in the arms of morpheous -- that somnambulistic state of glorious
oblivion......"  --My dad
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: dee3s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 4:24 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: mosaic & world wide web

To all that know:
  Sorry to repeat this question, but I just discovered that I have access to
Mosaic and the World Wide Web so if someone could repost the home page
address (is that what you call it?) I would appreciate it greatly.

Dan Entin


Posted By: akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 4:40 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Tapes of the Nashville Show

This message is for the following people who have sent me tapes or who have
arranged a trade with me:

Charlie (from Lookout Mtn.) *
Bernie Evangelista *=DD
Scott Miller *=FD
Erin Keys *
Anthony Iott *
Ben Tanen ~

* If you have a star by your name that means I have recieved your tapes.  I
am sorry it has taken me so long to get these back to you but Justin had to
fix the beginning of Seek Up because Jeff only had it coming out on one
side for the first few minutes of the show.  He fixed it now and it sounds
great!  I want to make these as good as possible so you can all enjoy this
wonderful show.  Thanks for being patient and I promise they will be coming
soon.

=DD Bernie, you only sent one 90 min. tape which presents a problem.  The
show is pretty long and I am going to need another 90 min tape to get the
whole show for you.  Or, if ya want, I can just record as much as I can and
just send it back that way.  Write and tell me what you want me to do.

=FD Scott, I'm sending two 90 min tapes for the trax 11/17/92 show along wit=
h
your copy of the Nashville show.  Is that length okay???

~ Ben, I think we're gonna go with the 5 tape trade (superjam and athens
2/4, 2/5/94).  We'll send you the Nashville show (2 tapes), the Sewanee
show (1 tape, really good quality), and then either Charleston and
Chattanooga (1 tape each) or last night's Knoxville show (2 tapes).  Do you
have a preference?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together."  --Robert Fulghum
"Lost in the arms of morpheous -- that somnambulistic state of glorious
oblivion......"  --my daddy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 4:53 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Boone and Rusted Root

        To any of you who might be worried about Dave disallowing soundboard 
recording fear not! At the Lex. show the soundman said that Dave would 
always allow recording, ask Dan if you don't believe me!

>But anyway, Fred was right about Dave's voice being shot, but he was 
>totally wrong about RR outplaying daveband.  The reason RR could have 
>been deemed as putting on a better show than the boys is because to my 
>knowledge, none of them were sick.  I know for a fact that most of the 
>guys were jet lagged from their recent excursion to Europe and they 
>caught cold.  Boyd, Dave and Carter were all sick with colds, Leroi was 
>admittedly a bit hungover...              

I completely agree with the reasons WHY Dave didn't play as well but the 
fact remains that they didn't! It was RR's last show and I think they 
definitely outplayed Dave. Dave's show was intense at times, but RR kept it 
consistent... Dave's still my #1 man and all but I still say that at Boone 
RR took the show.. Oh well, enough about that...

Remember: Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer...
        (pretty cool huh?)
                
                                                        -Fred House


Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 5:11 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Things of interest in Rolling Stone

I was just flipping through my new issue of Rolling Stone and found a 
couple of interesting things.  First of all, there is an article about 
free speech and the internet.  I have been around the internet now for a 
while and have seen a couple of posts about how "big brother" etc. look 
at what gets posted and has used this information against people.  This 
particular article is about a person who posted a suicide note to a 
newgroup, not taking it too seriously himself.  He was later taken to a 
mental institution, evaluated, and let go.  I'm not making any judgements 
on this particular case, I just thought this article would be of interest 
to the users of the internet.

The other thing that I found (Dave Matthew related) was that UTTAD is 
rated #1 by Rolling Stone under the "Altenative Music" catagory, with a 
nice little picture of the cover in the corner.  I sure hope that the 
little *%^# that broke into my car and took my DMB CD's and my CD player 
last week realizes how cool his music is!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I encourage everyone to pick up a Rolling Stone and check this article out!

Have fun everyone!!!!!


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 5:30 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Tape...

        I've got a William and Mary set that goes like so:

                Lover Lay Down
                So Much to Say
                Two Step
                Lie in Our Graves
                End (X-mas Song)

        If anyone has the continuation of this show, let me know, I'd like 
to trade for the rest of it...
                
                                        Fred House


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 5:32 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Daves illness

I can feel for him- I had a cold singing in a musical at UVA- it sucked. 
If anyone talks to him on a regular basis, let him know to be careful. 
Singing on the cold i had shot my voice for about 6 mos- i couldnt get 
the high notes i was used to hitting with ease. He should NOT TALK at ALL 
all day until singing at night, and he should gargle with a mixture of 
Benadryl Cough Syrup (its a kiddie medicine- pink in a plastic bottle) 
and luke warm water. My voice coach tells me its what all the opera 
singers use before shows, and it worked well for me. Also, i hope he has 
been taught about how to sing from the diaphragm (sp?) and not from 
purely his throat-- or we wont be able to enjoy his voice for years to 
come...!!!! He worries me, esp on songs like Halloween and the screaming 
part of Say Goodbye...
So, if anyone has his ear, you may want to pass on that benadryl thing...
Kristin


Posted By: SILV1434@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Time/Date: 5:35 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: help

ive been trying to unsubscribe from minarets, simply kuz theres to mush traffic
and if someone can tell me how to do that, id greatly appreciate it.
thanks                   ttfn, -rhett


Posted By: JFDITT00@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Time/Date: 6:57 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: rolling stone

UTTAD is currently #1 on Rolling Stone's Alternative Music Chart.
                                                         Jay


Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 7:16 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: blake campell info needed

if anyone knows blake's current status, please let me know.
dead? comatose? out of town? computerless?    
thanks
--kerry
                             **taboot**


Posted By: drcraver@mailbox.syr.edu
Time/Date: 7:17 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Re: clear something up

Hello folks,

It feels so good to crawl out of my corner.  But now that I'm here what 
will I say?  For now I'll just say hey.  I'm looking forward to doing 
some trades with you guyz in the future.
It seems as though moshing has been reported at some shows lately.  
Wasn't a problem when I saw them but I have witnessed this idiocracy at 
BT shows and it drives me nuts!
                               Dan
--Moshing is great at hardcore shows, not at DMB,
  we all need room to groove!


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 7:24 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: be mad and tell us all what is behind the veil of 'sanity'...

'poison me against the moon'

On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Catherine E. Hobbs wrote:

> when i got in the car after wait .. there was no smoke to be smelt 
> because it was purest ..maybe event innocent show ive ever been to

true true true. halfway through typical situation (actually more toward 
the end of the jam at the end) i looked up to the chandeliers, and the 
way the steps circle the edges of the chapel looking down, and the glow 
of the lights, and i felt like i was in medievil times and we were at a 
fest. i expected dave and the boys to toast us with wine goblets or 
something. and i was almost half confused that i wasn't dressed liek a 
princess and that the guys around me didnt' have chain-meal on ... wait.. 
except dan.. who had on camoflauge..... that's kinda close. he counts as 
robin hood). i was stone sober. it was amazing. this type of totaly 
spiritual energy filled me. 

> 
> atleast in my mind
> catherine
> 
no no silly.. in all our minds.... hee hee

ok. kick back and get a glass of kool aid and let me take you to my own 
dandelion field.....

'and i hate and i hate elevator music, the way we
 fight
 the way i'm left here silent.... oh these little earthquakes... here we 
 go again.... it doesnt' take much to rip us into pieces.....'

about the whole discussion of netters being friends in  real life (as 
opposed to this not being real life or anythigng.. ) many of us have 
taken this opportunity to indulge ourselves in the other aspects of
other netters lives. i being one. some of my closest relationships have
been conceived on this net. if anyone caught a glimple of maybe 14 or so
people dancing around the soundboard at lexington, hugging eachother,
punching eachother on the arms, dancing, spinning, laughing, smiling. you
saw the people you converse with on this net. in the group of friends i
know, not a one of us would ever exclude anyone..... like i said. its was
about 14 of us, and i didnt' just immaculately start at that number. we all 
brougt new people into the group. it started with one or two. and we have 
woven our blanket to encase us all.. and our blanket is continually being 
woven to include this whole net's expanse. my personal philosophy is that 
the more you learn about other people, the more you learn about yourself.. 
and you can never learn enough about yoruself.

lessee.. what else was i going to say. well.. my point of that all was 
for no one to feel like any exclusivity is going on. there is none of 
that. please be happy for us who have happened upon friendships 
indirectly through this small c-ville band we call the dave matthews 
band. we owe so much more to them than they realize. so come up to me at 
a show... i'll be ever so excited to meet you. or if you're lonely.. just 
send me some mail.. and then we can spark up a friendship that way.... 
cause it's ever so fun to make new friends. we can swing on mental swings 
in our heads together.... and make plans to get together adn do it in 
person sometime......okay?

love light and jubilance,  
clare emily
den mother troop #346

'somebody leave the light on...'
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                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:39 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: this was an old thread...

somebody a while back posted something about a tape with the four
songs recently, i'll back you up, jane's song, and recently being
repeated a couple of times, and that it may be a tape from fall
'91.

well, turns out you may have a copy of dave's first efforts in the
studio.  does recently by any chance have some horns dubbed in?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 8:12 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: miscellaneous is an awful big word for lotsa stuff

I got Shannon Worrell's Three Wishes today.. good stuff..  I like dave, tim &
leroi on there..

Is there any way we could get the name of the To: changed from "Multiple
Recipients of List" or whatever it is...?  that seems awful impersonal.

If any of you 11/9 tapers would be willing to seed, I'd be willing to run a
tree..  there was mega grovelling for that, incl me. :)

about what I said earlier on the wfu show: ye, it was disappointing to hear
the same songs, but I might have sounded a bit harsh.  there were many other
things that HAD changed to make it a completely different and wonderful
experience, and the dmb is still the dmb...

I know I had 3 other things to say which I'll promptly remember after I send
this.

hope you're all having a pleasant evening,
brett

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Brett Kingswell                                           bmking@mail.wm.edu
a river to the south, to wash away all sins
a college to the east of us, to learn where sin begins


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 8:35 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: L A S T N I G H T !

 hi is anybody on this net?
    i've seen the last three dmb shows and would like to discuss them!


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 8:58 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Rockin' in the net.

    OLDIES,GOODIES,NEWBIES,SHOOBIES,DAVIES,WAVIES,WHO-CARE-BE'S...

   Personally, the word "net" implies what the spider would call a web.
 and a web is made of many beautiful,intricate strands to complete the
 whole......you arachnids comprendo?... so catch what you can from this
 influx of personalities... not that we weren't already...Sorry,its hard
 to shut the hippies in my head up...so i'll dance away...
( the word NET also means that i'm stuck reading e-mail instead of doing
 my homework!)  Peace ya'll. 

               Rockin' the world with a tin-can and a spoon,

                                CHA |||
                                    * *
                                   \___/


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 9:10 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: D I G E S T S !

Does anyone know how to receive the dmb digests, like on phish.net? All I
want to do is talk about the man who has impressed me so much with his
musical insight, just in the last three nights of seeing him play live! Is
anyone there? please e-mail me


Posted By: AHENNE@drew.edu
Time/Date: 9:22 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Re: Angel lyrics

oops, didn't work the first time i sent this:
 
                                                                                                                            

let's see, according to _Rise Up Singing_, the best collection of folk and 
folk type song lyrics ever, the missing links are:

i'm an old woman named after my mother, my old man is another child who's 
grown old

and...

these dreams seem to go by like a broken down dam.

of course, it's quite possible that boyd sings something different when 
they play it, i just know what the published lyrics are supposed to be.


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 10:23 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: DMB in ATLANTA (Dec 27) ????!!!!????

I just got the postal newsletter and it said they're going to be in Atlanta on
Dec 27.  Does anyone know which venue they'll be playing at.  My guess is the
masquerade music park, since that's where they played last time, but it'll
prob. be to cold to have an outside show.  Maybe Centerstage, or the Roxy, or
The Variety Playhouse.  
Does anyone know how much tix will be and if you can phone order them (thru
ticket-bastard or 1 800 594 TIXX)??????

If you can answer any of these, please let me know!!!!

Thanks,

alex

P.S.  How's the Wake tree comin along?????


Posted By: pfollow@unix.cc.emory.edu
Time/Date: 10:27 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 350

I saw the Knoxville show last night and loved it.  This was my first Dave 
show where he headlined (I saw him play at SuperJam IV and HORDE), so 
it's not like I had anything to compare it with.  Rusted Root was pretty 
impressive also.  I wasn't in the right state of mind to pay them the 
attention they deserved when I caught HORDE in Knoxville.  On the drive 
up from here (Atlanta), my friend popped in an RR CD, and I immediately 
wished I had listened up on them earlier so I could of known their 
material.  
I thought Dave looked a little on the haggard side; I understand he's 
been sick.  Still, his vocals sounded good to me (I did notice where he 
didn't sing a really high passage on one song).  I thought One Sweet 
World dragged a little, but my friend who taped it said it was more of a 
mellow take on the song that they chose to do instead of a tempo 
problem.  I was expecting Christmas Song and was excited when Dave took 
the stage alone, but the song was quiet enough where I could hear all the 
children chattering around me.  They were content having heard their two 
songs (everyone probably knows which ones I'm talking about) and wouldn't 
indulge me by shutting up while Dave sang solo with his acoustic.  In 
fact, one guy standing behind me tapped me on the shoulder several times 
to tell me "nice execution".  I knew it was a nice execution, except this 
SOB was pissing me off, which made the song less enjoyable.  Anyhow, DMB 
WAS GREAT OVERALL.  I knew I should of written Carter in for Senator 
instead of myself (well, if would of if he was from Georgia).
				-Pete(r) (occasionally long-winded) Followill


Posted By: gap3s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 10:56 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: Boyd/Dmb fan name

Hello all,
	This message will be rather random so bear with me.
First of all, Scott Miller awhile back asked about Boyd getting
married.  I will share what I know (which, not surprisingly,
is minimal)  I think it was a show that I saw the summer of
'92, tuesday at Trax as usual.  At that time I was going for
the most part to see Boyd, after enjoying the Boyd Tinsley
Band and Down Boy Down, and had not yet come to worship
Dave as I do now.  Anyway, I was very disappointed to learn that
he wasn't going to be there as he was getting married.  I 
am not altogether certain he was even a regular member of
the band come to think of it (though perhaps he had just
started)  Regardless throughout the night Dave made references
to what exactly Boyd was doing at that very moment.  I am
not certain what his euphamisms were but you get the point.
Anyway, just thought I would share the memory.  Anyone out
there remember the show perchance?  (or even better, have
a tape!?) 
	Anyway, a few weeks ago I posted a message suggesting
that we come up with a name for ourselves.  I got several 
responses and if anyone still has any idea please pass
them along to me (gap3s@faraday.clas.virgina.edu) and maybe
we can come to a consensus.  What do you need to ratify something
on the net? 2/3?  Anyway, I would love anyone's ideas,
anything but daveheads.  If I get a few more, perhaps
I will post all the ideas, if there is interest.
	Lastly could someone please send me a list of upcoming
shows? Especially any details about the show in Atlanta that
was just mentioned.  It would be greatly appreciated.
	I am sure there is more to say but I have said enough
for now.

Thanks for your patience,
Greg


Posted By: JPETERS@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU
Time/Date: 11:31 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: a Big Mac is a Big Mac, but it's le Big Mac

	I'm interested in finding some tapes out there in the kingdom of
Davedom with a few particular tunes on them.  does anyone out there have
anything with Dave's cover of Tangerine on it?  I'm also looking for
Drive-in-drive-out.  If you have both of these on one tape or just one of the
two, please let me know.  I'd love to trade up.  I'll crank out a copy of any
of the shows from Nantucket this August (nice, low gen sound quality of
kick-ass shows), NYE from last year, the show they took the recordings of
Watchtower and Halloween on Recently from (I think it's 2-22-94) or anything
else I've got access to.  I hope someone can help me out.
			thanks in advance,
			jeff

	send replies to me at   jpeters@center.colgate.edu


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 11:36 PM Monday, November 14, 1994
Subject: treesssssssss

hey everybody.... just curious about all the trees..
there was one started awhiel ago for 5-27-93 and i haven't heard anything since
5-28-93 was jsu tcurious if it was still growing......:)

thanks for the time.....

rich

the wizard is in the corner catching peanuts with his teeth.....
the wizard is in the corner catching lizards between their knees,
the dog is long gone
and somewhere the pitcher is on the winning team.....


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:34 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: The band in early forms....

Reading recent posts about boyd's marriage, I thought of my first dave 
experience and thought of a few questions...
I had the pleasure of seeing dave for the first time in October of 91 
when I went to visit UVa as a perspective. They played at the same 
ampitheatre and it was a post-grad party, so us under 21 year olds had to 
sit on the little wall/railing and watch (for free :-)  They played on a 
crappy little PA (each speaker, only 2, were about 1.5X2.5 ft). I have no 
idea what they played but Watchtower, because I remember my friend 
telling me they did a stellar cover of it before the show. When we got 
there, he was psyched because the Saxophonist and violinist (ie Leroi and 
Boyd) had joined him, which didn't always happed he said. Anyways, to cut 
to the chase...

Anyone know more info about when Leroi/Boyd became permanent and anyone 
got any pre-leroi boyd tapes or any 91/early 92...

Anyone got any other stories on ancient dave???

Kud I have Ben an e 1 other than me....

Ahh its too late to be procrastinating....
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Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:36 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: okey dokey folks

this whole friends on the net thing is makin me grin
how can is say it 
most of the people that ive gotten really close with over the past year 
or so are some how realted to this net
its not a cligue
its cozy blanket
of people who seem to share the liking of this groovy DAMABA thingy
and one of us meets someone and introuduces the friendly smiler all around
and we babble in the friendly gettin to know ya way
and then its like 
HEY YOU SPEAK THE LANGUAGE not a wierd language .. just the kindness 
language too
and we all start to play
but this is an infinite playground
so all are welcome
when i post my mind and end it with "spoons" or "huggs" or love and all 
im not writing for just the friendly faces i know
i am writing to all of you wh take the time to read it and maybe think 
about it ...
since when did it hurt to make another friend?? i dunno ..but i can think 
of lots of times it helps
this playground is expansive .. but  the play interactive .. get to know 
eachother however we can and feel that much more comfy saying what youve 
got to say
now 
smile folks
itll light up your soul
catherine


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 4:36 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Dave in Santa Cruz and San Fran?

  I think I've posted this before, but I'm getting very anxious!  The 
everything tour dates posted on this list included them playing with DMB 
on Dec. 1 in Santa Cruz and Dec. 4 in San Francisco, but the DMB tour 
have not even mentioned the possibility of these shows (the dates aren't 
even set off as tentative).  I already have my tickets for their shows 
with Phish on the 2nd and 3rd, but I really want to see them headline, 
and they really rock with e: (who are totally different but fit so well 
with Dave in concert).  Plus, my idea of a dream come true would be a 
four-day weekend seeing DMB every night in small venues amongst people 
who don't know the band very well...  So, if you know absolutely ANYTHING 
about these shows, please, PlEaSe, PLEASE let me know!

		Thanks,
		   M A L A C H I


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 4:59 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Phish 10/26 and 10/27

This obviously is the wrong group for this, but I really want tapes of
the phish shows from boone and charlottesville.  I've got some unique
phish and dave masters that I'd trade for it, including the master to
friday's show at wait chapel that is about to get tree'd.  Anyone on
here tape em?

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:02 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: mosaic & world wide web

On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Winston Wolf wrote:

> To all that know:
>   Sorry to repeat this question, but I just discovered that I have access to
> Mosaic and the World Wide Web so if someone could repost the home page
> address (is that what you call it?) I would appreciate it greatly.
> 
> Dan Entin
> 

Here it is:
		http://netspace.org/DMB

-Ben

 
 
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Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 10:17 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: 7 Oceans...

                  The Ocean
                           The Sea
                
           See. Feel. Hear.
                                Covers the Earth.

  Beautiful.Violent.Blue-green.Dark.Escapes Eyes.Water IS Alive.


( if you want a deep experience,ingest some magic fungus as a rite or
  ritual or communion with nature and watch the ocean and wait for
  the tides. Time and Space start to make complete sense in a sensory
  overload as if mapped out before you...and secrets of the universe
   creep between your toes,yet could swallow you whole...
         ...then washes away with the rising sun at dawn.)
  
"Smile at the Rising Sun..."

Forget what the lawbooks say is Right and Wrong. 
Anything that grows in the wild on this planet can't be "told" to stop 
growing...so why should we?

GROW.EXPERIMENT.EXPERIENCE. 
(but beware of trippin' billies!)

           
     

      amazed at the prospect of an orgasm while existing as a Dolphin,

                             C H A  * *
                                   \___/


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 10:48 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: poems

The winner of the poem contest will be posted tomorrow-- until then keep 
that prose coming..
(if you missed my other post.. send my a short (10 lines) poem on why you 
like dave so much.. the winner can pick a tape off my list)

          ***********************************************
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	  *p.o. box 131      |price, my head up in the  *
	  *lexington VA 24450|stars and my feet planted * 
	  *(703)462-4784     |firmly on the ground..    *
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          *****MY HEAD WON'T LEAVE MY HEAD ALONE*********


Posted By: 7WEILL_M@spcvxa.spc.edu
Time/Date: 10:53 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: help

I need list processors address!!!!!

Michael W  ---   7weill_m@spcvxa.spc.edu

thanks!!


Posted By: gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 10:57 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: AFM lyrics

Hey.  Just thought I'd provide a touch-up of those Angel From Montgomery
lyrics posted here recently...

the verses are more like...

I am an old woman, named after my mother
My old man's another, child that's grown old
If dreams were thunder, lightning desire
This old house would've burned down, a long time ago
chorus
When I was a young girl, I had me a cowboy
He wa'nt much to look at, just a free ramblin' man
But that was a long time, and no matter how I try
These old dreams seem to go by, like a broken-down dam
chorus
Flies in the kitchen, I can hear 'em a-buzzin
Lord I ain't done nothin, since I woke up today
How the hell can a person, go to work in the morning
Come home in the evening and have nothin' to say.
chorus


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 11:00 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: 11/13/94 seed

Among the more popular requests for the lex and wait shows, If anyone can
  a provide me a seed for the electric ballroom show, the other night in
  Knoxville, I would be more than happy to administer a tree.  It sounds like
  a good show, and I can think of a few people who would be interested,
  already.  I just don't know how many people.
                                                 keith


Posted By: akinscj0@sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 11:04 AM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Lost some mail, need help!!!!

Last night we had major problems with our server here at Sewanee.  All
messages sent to either me or Justin last night have been eaten by this
terrible new server that are trying to configure here.  If you sent us
something last night, please resend it sometime today and if anyone has a
copy of last night's digest, I would love to have someone forward it to me.
Thanks a lot!!!  Sorry to cluter.

Jen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together."  --Robert Fulghum
"Lost in the arms of morpheous -- that somnambulistic state of glorious
oblivion......"  --my daddy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: eam4@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 12:20 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Irving Plaza Tree?

Hey!  Since we've been talking so much about setting up trees for the 
past couple of shows, how about setting up a tree for last week's Irving 
Plaza show?  It seems to be a show that a lot of people would like.  If 
someone can provide me with a seed, I wouldn't mind setting it up.  
Please get back to me if you're interested.  Thanks-
				
-Eric


Posted By: IBASSIN@WESLEYAN.BITNET
Time/Date: 12:30 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Angel lyrics

I think that first verse is actually:
 
I am an old woman
Named after my mother
Old man's another child thats grown old
if dreams were lightening and thunder was desire
this whole house would have burned down
a long time ago.
 
Just a possible correction, Ian


Posted By: TDWALSH@amherst.edu
Time/Date: 12:36 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: request info

Hi,
	Please send me more info on your DMB mailing list. Thanks,

Tim 
tdwalsh@amherst.edu


Posted By: alberbc4@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 12:47 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Wait Chapel and damage?

This is for all to hear, but in particular goes out to whomever it was 
(dan b, I think) who warned us about the no smoking decree for last 
friday's show at Wait Chapel. I can understand the worries of the anal 
wake forest people about smoking and anarchy, especially in light of the 
Widespread Panic scene (which i thought was great). But,,,,,, I can't 
fathom that $80,000 in damage was inflicted upon the Chapel after 
Widespread. I can see some burn holes in the carpet maybe, or a mess in 
the bathrooms, but, EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!??? I'd like to know where 
(you) got this figure and specifically what damage was done. From what I 
saw there weren't any big prob's w/ the widespread show and the 
stringency at dave's show was an overreaction - but maybe I'm wrong. 
enlighten me. curious.

Brian


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 1:02 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Radio Song...

I've heard that dave does some pretty kickin' R.E.M. covers - has anyone 
actually heard any of these or have them on tape (the tip comes from a 
friend of mine at UVa who used to go watch him at Trax on a regular 
basis in his early days) If so I'd really like to trade for some.

sean

ps - I just heard Ants on the radio - this scares me.

                -----------------------------------------
          "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
                -----------------------------------------
			      Sean Spicer
		    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 1:03 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Wait Chapel and damage?

> This is for all to hear, but in particular goes out to whomever it was 
> (dan b, I think) who warned us about the no smoking decree for last 
> friday's show at Wait Chapel. I can understand the worries of the anal 
> wake forest people about smoking and anarchy, especially in light of the 
> Widespread Panic scene (which i thought was great). But,,,,,, I can't 
> fathom that $80,000 in damage was inflicted upon the Chapel after 
> Widespread. I can see some burn holes in the carpet maybe, or a mess in 
> the bathrooms, but, EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!??? I'd like to know where 
> (you) got this figure and specifically what damage was done. From what I 
> saw there weren't any big prob's w/ the widespread show and the 
> stringency at dave's show was an overreaction - but maybe I'm wrong. 
> enlighten me. curious.
> 
> Brian 

There definitely were big problems at widespread, though I slipped a
decimal point in damage estimate ($8,000 instead of $80,000).  But the
Widespread show was the reason why the DMB show was the last ever for
wait chapel.  The only damage done at the dmb show was a tremendous
amount of vomit under the seats...people over did it before the show
rather than slowly drinking all night long...

-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 1:28 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: radio show in durham?

I just heard that Dave will be broadcasting something from 7-9 am sat on 
a Durham, NC country station <<KIX 94.1>> does anyone know anything about 
this?

                -----------------------------------------
          "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: akinscj0@sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 1:53 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 351

Is DMB really going to be in Atlanta?  Please if anyone gets any info of
the poosible 12/27 show PLEASE  SEND IT ON TO ME!!!!!!!!!!

Jen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together."  --Robert Fulghum
"Lost in the arms of morpheous -- that somnambulistic state of glorious
oblivion......"  --my daddy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: jgraves@world.std.com
Time/Date: 2:20 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Thanks and love

Hi all!

I just wanted to thank everybody for reacting so positively to the whole 
exclusivity issue.

I was hoping that you all would react precisely as you did, telling me I 
was wrong and welcoming any and all new folks involved in this here net 
to add their opinions to the general melee-o-good-feelings that is Minarets.

Your positivity is overwhelming, and someday I hope to put some faces to 
the names.

peace, love, and good listening,
jerm

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Posted By: AHENNE@drew.edu
Time/Date: 2:38 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: blue water

i just heard my first "blue water," from 5-26-92 (thanks Greg! your tapes 
are on the way.)  what a song!  i love finding out more and more about 
this band, and these great unreleased songs.  it's a process of discovery 
that makes the end result so much more exciting than if i'd just picked 
it up down at tower records.  what a band...

oh, and to clare and catherine and the rest of the net-gang: don't feel 
paranoid, i'm not resentful of your bond.  i'm glad for you that you're so 
tight like that, and someday i hope to meet you folks.  keep spooning.


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 2:56 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Indy show

Hadn't seen any posts as of yet about the Indianapolis show last night at the
Vogue Theater, so I thought I'd add my .02.  Maybe there weren't any posts
because there weren't any netters there, but who knows.  First of all, Dave is
really sick!!!!  I envy the F**k out of the guy for even playing a show in his
condition.  It took him until Jimi Thing (about 1.3 hours into the show) to
start moving around like he usually does, and even then, it was pretty
restrained.  The others in the band helped pick up the slack, especially
Stephan and Leroi.  BOyd played pretty well too.  Highlights were Jimi Thing
(about 13 minutes) and the Minarets encore with Rusted Root.  There were 11
people on stage for this encore!!!  They really jammed this tune hard.  The
crowd at the show was extremely better than the last time I saw them in CHicago
on 10/28.  Maybe that was becasue this place was over 21 only (not that there
aren't some very cool DMB fans underage, but...).  The Vogue Theater where they
played was really cool and intimate, but beers were too pricey at 2.50 for a
can of freaking Miller Lite, but I was driving, so that didn't matter too much.
Really cool area that the theater was in, with lots of cool bars and pool
halls.  Rusted Root was really good as always, and Boyd came out to jam with
them for a song (I can't remember which one).  Like I said, Dave is really
sick, and this affected the show, which was still awesome.  He needs the 3 days
of rest he SHOULD be getting before his next show.  Later on,
 
Steve


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 2:13 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Boone show

        Here's another interesting thing a dear close friend of mine pointed 
out to me about the Boone show... At one point during #36 Dave sings the 
following:

        "I know I can't talk, but I can make love baby
         I know I can't talk, but I can make love baby
         I know I can't sing, but I can make love baby
         I know I can't sing, but I can make love baby"

Bet you never heard that one before! Unless of course he always says that 
and I'm wasting everyone's time.... Later,
        
                                                        Fred House


Posted By: eyriccc0@sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 4:07 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject:

I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.
He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.


Posted By: pfollow@unix.cc.emory.edu
Time/Date: 4:08 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: ATTN:JENNIE AKINS

Jennie,
	I tried several times to mail you personally but it didn't work, 
so here is my reply to your message via minaret net.  Now everyone will 
know my  shocking personal bio below.  

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 15:00:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Peter Council Followill <pfollow@unix.cc.emory.edu>
To: Jennie Akins <akinscj0@sewanee.edu>
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 351

Jen,
	No, I'm not orignally from Atlanta.  I'm from Columbus, GA which 
is about two hours south of Atlanta.  I have a lot of family up here in 
Hotlanta, (my mother grew up for the most part here) so it's like my 
second hometown.  I don't know anything yet about a Decmber 27th show, 
I've only read rumors on the net.  If such a show does occur, I'll do 
anything to get tickets.  I would love to meet you if this show does 
happen.  The 27th is my parents 25th anniversary, so maybe I'll bring 
them to DMB (well, I'm not completely serious, but it would be a unique 
anniversary celebration).
	My uncle and cousin were KAs at Sewanee, and I have friends from 
high-school there.  Do you know Michael Jarrett, Diane O'Brian, Dan 
Hunter, Chandler Collins, Matt Koren, Andrew Nix, or Chris Cairnes?  Just 
curious.....(I don't know Andrew, but I know his mother).
	Let me know if you find out anymore info on DMB in Atlanta.  If 
they play Dec. 27, I think this will be the best X-mas break ever!!!  
Thanks for getting in touch.  Talk to you later.
				-Pete Followill


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 4:17 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
> just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.

Yeah, Dave is original and it pisses me off too!

> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.  
> 

Hmm.

-Ben


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 4:26 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

What we have here kiddies is called flame bait.  I'm going to assume
he's being serious, and respond this time...
> 
> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
> just were not that good.

If you're basing your opinion of the dave matthews band solely on a
show where the guys in the band are sick, I suggest you listen to a
tape or two, or to any of their CDs.  

> i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i
> learned from.

And obviously, if YOU'VE never seen anyone play a chord, it must be
the wrong chord.   Rather than trying to recognize the chords first
time you listen to a band, why don't you listen to the music?  Dave is
one of the best rhythm guitar players currently playing, for this very
reason.  He doesn't stick with the power chords or the folky chords.
He's an innovator, playing the music that's in his head.  It's not
just simple chords out in front.  

> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!

Maybe this has something to do with the fact that he's been sick for a
week and been on the road?  I know there is no excuse for not giving
it your all, but sometimes you have to sympathize. 

>  Whats the big deal with
> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.  
> 

I just suggest that if you are truly interested in finding out what
the deal is with this band, you give them another shot.  If not, I'm
sure someone else will appreciate the tickets...

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 5:25 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: T A P E S

hey, i just wanted to say a quick thank you to dan for hooking us up with
the tape(s) thursday, alyson and jill will be back on the net in a while. i
have to eat and go to class, but they have my pw, is that a mistake? i hope
not.  anyway thanks man
              later
                   - bruce


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 5:33 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
> just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.
> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.  
> 
> 

	Is this a JOKE?!!

		I hope so,
		   M A L A C H I


Posted By: saf1@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 5:33 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: d.c show in december

dave fans:

i have been reading about a possible dmb show in washington dc on 
december 30?  is this true.  if anyone knows specifics, such as the 
venue, date that tickets go on sale, etc..., please email me directly.  I 
would also like to trade at that show if possible.

Also, does anyone have a tape of the Hammerjacks show in Baltimore from 
this summer(the specific date of that show eludes me but I believe it was 
July 27,1994).

Thanks.  dmb rules.

sandy

I love clare and so does johnfro!!!!


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 5:44 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

Are you some kinda idiot or something.  Great opinion, where the fuck is 
sewanee?  Hey if you don't like them, then get of the net.  This is not 
really the place to criticise h im.  Why would you even get on this in 
the first place, let alone venture an opinion like that?  I hope that you 
like all the mail that you will receive on this one.  To everyone else on 
the net, sorry, I just felt the need to say something before everyone 
else does.  One last thing to Courtland, if you don't like the DMB then, 
it's easy, don't listen to them.  See ya.


On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
> just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.
> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.  
> 
>


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:50 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: flame? oh noooooo.....

From:	IN%"eyriccc0@sewanee.edu"
> 
> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
> just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.

the reason you haven't seen the chords is becuase they do not appear in
beginner books that most not all people learn from... it is ver posssible too
that your knowledge as a guitar player is limited since you have only been
playing three years...... i don't mean to put you on the spot...  and i didn't
mean to post this to the whole net but the fact that you don't know a chord
dave plays doesn't mean he is a bad guitar player..... pick up a copy of the
tab file figure somesongs out....sing them at the same time then get back to
us...... sorry if i wastd time and i am being mean but the above statement 
 is a poorly thought out.........


> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.  
> 

who cares if he is gay? or on drugs? stage presence? did you notice the guy
playing the violin? or the guy playing the guitar? 

sorry to do this but it bugged me.......
i didn't mean or want this to turn into a flame fest..... if you respond
respond to me personally......

i apologize

kinda.....

rich

"One should hold fast one's heart; for when one letteth it go, how
 quickly doth one's head run away!"
                            -nietzche


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 6:06 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: D I G E S T S

hey, why does it take so long for the digests to come to my e-mail? someone
write me something, i'm lonely


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 6:06 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Not fair!!!

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994 SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET wrote:
> Stephan and Leroi.  BOyd played pretty well too.  Highlights were Jimi Thing
> (about 13 minutes) and the Minarets encore with Rusted Root.  There were 11

NOT FAIR!!!!!!
I saw the RR/DMB combo show twice (Lex and Wake) and was not fortunate 
enough to see any RR members on stage for an encore. 
WOW!! HOw did all that percussion sound on minarets??
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Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 6:11 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Sleep..

 To the burning embers of Minarets:

 
 oh boy. here we gooooo....
                       ....i'm gonna pulla Rip Van Winkle on this one.

         

             wake me when its over....

                       
                                <*> <*>
                                   @
                                 _____

 


but i really think a flame was the intention....


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 6:12 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Just had to get one in...

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think

Where are your 3 cds and loyal fans with numerous bootlegs...

> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with

Mybe dave & co can dress up like Motley Crue or Winger in tight leather 
and have a large skull and a small replica of Stonehenge on their stage...

P.S. go rent Spinal Tap...


Posted By: @mwbbmsg.attmail.com:rie!4399
Time/Date: 6:43 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

////////
I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
just were not that good.
////////

i respect the fact that not everyone is going to get Dave's music...not 
everyone likes black licorice, either.

/////////
he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.
/////////

i find it funny that you state your point this way.  god help us all if the 
only musical expression allowed is the kind that is scripted and set out in 
"how to play the guitar in ten easy lessons" books.  come on, how much guitar 
have you learned by now?  are you telling us that you never tried anything 
different?  jimi hendrix broke every rule on the books in the late 60s and 
i can assure you that no guitar book told him how to do it.

have you ever heard of a triad in the third inverted position?  if not, then i 
would guess you missed the first and secon position as well.  basically 
inverted triads are a way of taking the the three notes that make up a 
chord and moving them through a total of four positions (triad, 1st inversion, 
2nd inversion, and third inversion); same three notes, four interesting 
effects.  bob weir of the grateful dead is one of the greatest at this.  he 
takes a song like "fire on the mountain"  with a basic rhythm of two 
chords, and through the creative use of inverted triads, makes the music 
really come alive.  get the 'guitar player's handbook" and look up "triads" in 
the index.  you'll learn a lot.

the other thing dave does is alternative tuninings, so he may very well be 
playing a chord you knopw an love, but has to position his fingers differently 
to compensate for the varying notes to which the five strings are tuned.  
again, if you are really into learning guitar, this is an excellent technique 
to work on.  stephen stills is known for this.

/////////
He looks like he's gay,
/////////

you sound awfully closed minded.  since when did the race, religion, gender, 
sexual oreintation, etc. of any one person reflect on the musical integrity of 
the group as a whole?  do you really care whether a a songwriter is black or 
white, male or female, gay or straight.  i noted that you are dismissing him 
simply because he "looks" gay.  the absurdity and immaturity of this comment 
amazes me.


Posted By: BLBLALOC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:03 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: shhhhh. . .

ummm, guys, before you get started--
try to remember this is the user FRIENDLY net, ok?  no flames please.
if someone offers criticism with a supported argument, then by all means
debates reign freely.  no personal attacks.  no questionable objections raised
about a member's sexuality.  no one talking about anyone's mother.  alright
children, you may proceed.




On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
> just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.
> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.

and you, music lover, it's probably not a good idea to insult a band on their
own net surrounded by their own fans, and NOT OFFER ANY SUPPORT for your
argument.  just a word of advice from your friendly neighborhood camp
counselor. :)
"i've never seen the cord, therefore it sucks." 
does not appear to be a sound argument.
"he looks like he's gay, and also on drugs."
ummm...what?  
i'm not confident that you can place a burden of proof on subjective empirical
 evidence alone, especially based on a sole observation of the subject.

by the way, i LIKE cat stevens and van morrison. :)

ummm, den mother, can't you make these people behave?


brian.
     ----------
    *CHOMP!*


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 7:13 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Lyrics file

 hi all
  i was wondering if anyone knew the lyrics to song #36, angel from
montgomery, dangerous hours, spotlight, etc.
           -got central heating, and i'm alright-
                       - bruce


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 7:17 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: d i g e s t s

hi everyone
     i need some help.  no digests seem to be coming in.  do i have to keep
setting minarets mail digest everytime i come on the computer or what am i
to do?  thank you   -so much to say-
            - bruce


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:55 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: angel lyrics...

to the people who are completely in the know about angel lyrics, i
missed the digest where they were originally posted completely.  if
someone could send me those lyrics in the entirety i can get started
adding some covers to the lyrics.file.  it was at least 2 months ago
when we all agreed that they should be there, and i still haven't
gotten around to it, so your help would be appreciated.  

i have the maker and this will be angel, and if anyone would like to
transcribe me & julio, tangerine etc, etc, go right ahead.  please,
if you do so, and feel like posting, more power to you, but send a
copy directly to me.  editing digests can be a tedious effort for me,
not to mention the fact that by the time i get to the end of a digest
i usually forget everything the digest had in it that was particularly
pertinent (ie: all those posts of mine where i say "i had at least 
14 other things to say, too....")


that kinda looks like one helluva a weird smiley....

")

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
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Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 7:57 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Minarets in Indy

In response to I think it was Sir BUford's question about the DMB, RR combo in
Indianapolis on Monday night, yea it was incredible.  Of the 11 people on
stage, if memory serves me right, there were only 4 people that weren't playing
percussion instruments.  It was pretty much dizzying, the array of sounds being
produced.  I was in shock of how awesome it sounded.  Hmm, do you think I liked
it???  Its too bad they didn't join up more often.  Did they do it at all
during any of the other shows they did together or was it just done since RR
won't be performing anymore on this leg of touring with DMB???  Quite lucky I
was then to see it, eh??


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 7:57 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: No DMB content

Sorry to "waste bandwith" if anybody feels it, but what's one more message to
piece through in a daily dose of 50-60 messages??  Two bits of info:
 
1.  Rusted Root will be making their national TV appearance on the Conan O'
Brien show on Wednesday night.  Yikes.
 
2.  The Samples and Rusted Root will be playing at my gracious institution,
Miami of Ohio, on Saturday, December 3, 1994.  Tix are only $10.00 and went on
sale this morning.  It's a big arena, shitty sound, but hey, its close and I
don't have to drive 1.5 hours to get back..  Anybody wanting more info email me
at
sakunz@miavx1.muohio.edu
 
Steve


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 8:02 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: I'm happy, guys

Friends,

For the first time I think we have seen an individual who is actually not
brought into the world of happiness by the music-o-DAMABA.  This really is
a shame. I don't want to slam the individual who basically slammed dave, cause
then I'd be portrayed as less of a happy person, and I'll leave it to the 
dude at sewanee to remain miserable.
I can honestly say that I've never before heard ANYONE who actually considered
dave to be less than a great musician.  Some good buddies of mine from 
Nashville (who happen to rely on music as their existence) even say that
Dave is an excellent musician, and they really aren't even into his music.
I dunno, I'm happy with Dave, and I know most of you are, too.  So..lets 
not give this naysayer such a hard time, as a matter of fact, don't give him
any time at all...we'll all be happier if were spending less time being 
negative about him, and more time being positive about Dave...and us.

Much Grass,
Shug


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 8:08 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Alternate tunings.....

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994 rie!4399 (i think Chris)@liberty.uc.wlu.edu wrote:

> the other thing dave does is alternative tuninings, so he may very well be 

Now this has been something I have pondered but never come the the 
conclusion of. I thougth there might be alternate tunings, but then I 
figure it was all those funky, killer chords. I've had to tune to 
different pitched for different tapes, but all are standard tuning. I've 
never really notice him tune his guitar any differently on stage and I 
also assume that both his guitars are in the same tune. 
Maybe I've missed something all these years in my attempts to play every 
dave tune....
Ben, Rick, any suggestions/comments....
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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 8:13 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: The dragon will destroy all evil.....

Jennie, thanx for the explanation
I'd tried to reply, but your mail bounces back....

To everyone else...
the dragon below will come and getcha if any more bad vibes appear

hehehe I'm so silly...

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Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 8:21 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
> just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.
> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.  
> 
> 


Well, can I interest you in an Otter Pop?     :) hee hee
                                                    D. Toole


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Posted By: jtv2j@server.cs.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 8:32 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: I'm happy, guys

>>>>> "gt0407c" == gt0407c  <gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu> writes:

    gt0407c> remain miserable.  I can honestly say that I've never
    gt0407c> before heard ANYONE who actually considered dave to be
    gt0407c> less than a great musician.  

 	Come to Charlottsville, I'll introduce you to plenty of people
who *HATE* Dave.

	Sad, but true......

John

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Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 8:43 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: more sewanee stuff

What?  A Flame?

Otter Pops for everyone...        Ahhh....        much better...   :)
 

                                         D. Toole

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Posted By: sonfije0@sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 9:18 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: tunings

>From all of the shows ive seen, there are no alt. tunings.  His current set
lists are all in standard tuning.  There are songs like OSW, Satellite,
ect, that contain flat chords, but that is just daves skill and
inventiveness.  Alternative tunings, with the exception of a drop D that i
think would sound great on Seek Up ( try it, Steffan does ), are not needed
with daves ability of chord formation.  However, i noticed most of the
songs in the R.R. sets ive seen have been in a different tuning.  I think
it is a D tuning.  
By the way, i know Courtland. he didn't write that post so lets drop it.
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 9:20 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: WOW!!

       Just a question.. Did you want mail or something when you posted 
that? I'm sure that I'm one of 1000 people to respond to you! I'm glad you 
posted that.. DMB happens to be my favorite band but I'm curious how 
everyone else reacted on the net..Let me know.. Here's how I respond...

        -You're right about Steffan being emotionless, most would agree w/ that
        -But BOYD! where the hell did you see them... Boyd is one of the most
         intense musicians I have ever seen... He goes crazy during some of 
his jams
        -Whether or not you think Dave is good because he doesn't play 
"standard"
         chords like you think he should, the fact remains he has excellent 
rhythm and
         if you really play guitar you should know that!
        -The gay and drugs comment need no response, those are simply stupid 
         ignorant comments that have nothing to do with talent...

                                                        -Fred House


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 9:41 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: COURTLAND'S IGNORANCE

Sorry to take up space, but I could barely contain myself.  Please do not
come see Dave, and keep your comments off of here if they are going to be
negative.  "and I still don't care if you don't like it" "this is a very
happy song, happy song, and I always do it following this other happy
song"--->listen to some boots, gain some insight into the man, the myth,
the legend-make yourself feel better for a small while
                   I'M ADDICTED TO THE DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
                   AND I'M SINKING FAST, LET ME DROWN!!!!


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 9:42 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Minaret encore with DMB

        Anyone have a copy of the last DMB/RR show where they did the 
Minaret encore? I have soundboards of Boone and Wake Forest that I recorded 
and alot of other great stuff...

                                        Fred House


Posted By: jtv2j@server.cs.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 9:55 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: WOW!!

I have to say that I get really suspicious when I see hate mail like
that come over the net.  It's usually some dufus trying to get someone
else in trouble, which seems to be the case in this instance.....
Before we flame TOO hard, let us remember how incredably easy it is to
forge e-mail...

John

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Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 9:59 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Newbie hints and other stuff

I got a personal message today noting than I hadn't posted in a while, so 
I figured what the hell.

1. Brett asked about changing the "to: multiple recipients of list" 
thing. Tell me how my little experiment comes out.

2. Newbies- a few ideas.
	-Don't digestify. You will miss offers. several people wrote me 
to say they missed mine b/c they got the message late.
	-Bring blanks, postage money, and self- addressed packaging to 
shows, and ask tapers to dub show if you like it. Tapers- don't whine. 
The band is kind enough to allow taping, and it's your responsibility 
not to be possessive or exclusive with this "gift". Besides- it's a good 
way to meet friends and possible future trade partners.
	-Stop offering the 10-26-93 Trax show as a trade. We all have this 
tape. Sorry.
	-Stay in Touch!!! This is the most important thing- and it's a 
good way to make friends as well. Let those that have helped you in the 
past know when you get a great copy of a great show. They'll most likely 
want to trade.
As a general rule, vague pleas for help starting a collection don't work. 
Sign up for a tree, get a copy of a recent show, search your school or 
group of friends for fellow fans, then set up some trades with what you have.

I don't mean to sound like an "oldbie" or be the least bit deameaning. 
There are plenty of fans with more tapes than me, who have been listening 
to the band longer than I have. But I've had great success since I became an 
avid trader less than a year ago, so I figured I'd share some experiences.

				-Adam


Posted By: LHOWLEY1@ithaca.edu
Time/Date: 10:00 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: why?

A is for AMy who fell down the stairs
B is for Basil assulted by bears
C is for Clara who wasted away
Dis for Desmond thrown out of a sleigh
E is for Ernest who choked on a peach
F is for Fanny sucked dry by a leech
G is for George smothered under a rug
H is for Hector done in by a thug
I is for Ida who drowned in a lake
J is for James who took lye by mistake
K is for Kate who was struck with an axe
L is for Leo who swallowed some tacks
M is for Maude who was swept out to sea
N is for Neville who died of ennui
O is for Olive run through with an awl
P is for Prue trampled flat in a brawl
Q is for Quentin who sank in a mire
R is for Rhoda consumed by a fire
S is for Susan who perished of fits
T is for Titus who blew into bits
U is for Una who slipped down a drain
V is for Victor squashed under a train
W is for Winnie embedded in ice
X is for Xerxes devoured by mice
Y is for Yorrick who's head was knocked in
Z is for Zillah who drank too much gin

				-Edward Gorey
				 from the book Amphigorey, everyone should


Posted By: Matthew.S.Bruno@williams.edu
Time/Date: 10:07 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Setlist

Hey everyone-
 I have this tape from W&L Pavilion on 2/6/93, and I was wondering if
anyone could post the setlist.  I am having trouble identifying one song.
Thanks alot
    -Matt

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+Matthew S Bruno                       +
+S.U. Box 2120                         +
+Williams College                      +
+Williamstown, Mass 01267              +
========================================


Posted By: eyriccc0@sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 10:08 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: my mail

I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do i.  However my roomate does
not and wrote that nasty letter.  I would appreciate it if you would quit
writting about it.  Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true
Dave fan

Courtland Eyrick


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 10:10 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings.....

i remeber asking about this a few months ago on the net cause someone was 
sayinghtat theband sounded off key to them all the time.  i thoghtthat 
maybe it was just that the band was playing in unfamilar keys or tunings 
but, not being a guitar player i couldnt know for sure.
BEN ohh nebious you   convinced me that all was played in standard keys 
and such .. but now that tuningis up for debate ive gottne curious again ...
what will it take to find out the answer?  just a glimpse of genius from 
one of you guitar wizards out there? 
lemme me know  .i want to be enlightened
catherine


Posted By: eyriccc0@sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 10:15 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: my mail

I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do I.  However my roomate does
not and wrote that nasty letter.  I would appreciate it if you would quit
writting about it.  Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true
Dave fan.  I would like an apology from all of you that have cloged my
computer with hate mail.  I have read more than once on this net that
everyones oppinion should be respected, so why don't you practice what you
preach.

Courtland Eyrick


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:18 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: minarets-history-2

also at ftp://netspace.org/pub/DMB/minarets-history/minarets-history-1

Minarets History Issue 2: 
	* Alex reviews Northampton (11/11/93)
	* Ben reviews Boston (11/12/93)
	* Daniel reviews Boston 
	* Alex reviews Hartford (11/13/93)
	* Eric reviews Hartford
	
	EDITOR'S NOTE: I was reading the archives and I think
the posts included below reveal how incredibly exciting
it was for the Dave Matthews Band to come up to the New
England area for the first time about one year ago.
	It's amazing to think that they opened for the
Aquarium Rescue Unit in a half-empty Paradise Rock Club
and 11 months later they had sold out the much-larger
Avalon.

	I promised in the last issue that I'd be including
some posts from our first flame-war, but I've decided
to delay that until next week.
	
--Ben

--------------------

		
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 10:23:34 -500 (EST) 
From: "J. A. Crothers" <jcrother@moose.uvm.edu> 
Subject: A genuine good time.... 
To: Dave Matthews Band <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
	
	Hello It's me: alex Crothers and I just want to give
a little brief report of what an incredible show it was
last night (Thurs) at Pearl Street in Northhampton,
MA!!
	
	The show was  adouble billing with DMB opening for
ARU.  I shouldn't even need to go on but I will :).
First I'll give you the set list:
	
	Just one long set running about 70 minutes: 
Sweet World 
Trippin Billies 
Granny 
Help Myself 
Minarets
Satelite 
Warehouse
Lover Lay Down 
Ants Marching
Recently
	
	There were technical problems through the whole show
(not many in DMB) but not on the part of the board
(except in one case) but on the part of the tapers.
There were about five analog tapers there and two
digital (myself and someone else-was that you Eric?)
Since I was tremendously underprepared I ended up going
last in the line which means that my copy has a cut
everytime an anolog parent had to flip :(, but oh well.
The first minute on DMB got cut and the first minute of
ARU got cut.  Also, one the guys taping analog in front
of me wasn't paying any attention to his deck so I
ended up having to adjust his levels and mine.!!!!
Annoying. Anyway, a killer show to say the least.  the
only technical problem on the boards fault (and it
wasn't really the boards fault) was we lost ALL power.
Vocals went out, our decks went out, the board went
out.  For about five-seven minutes we sat there waiting
(just as we set up some mics it went back on).  The
instruments still had power and ARU just went into a
jam (obviously w/out words. :)) until the power got
back on.  Still not sure what the problem was.
	
	Anyway, I haven't had a chance to listen to the tape
and I won't for awhile 'cause I'm taking off for Boston
in a sec.  The tapes all are pretty piece-meal but
maybe with some fancy fade in/outs I can make them a
little more fluid.  I'll do my best.
	
	I got the album, pretty cool but still haven't had
a good chance to listen to it.  Everyone at the show
was staring at one on the posters (sterograms) they had
on display.  Jeff (soundman) was incredible nice as was
ARU's soundman and both bands.  Good atmosphere.
	
	I saw Eric(new aquaintance) and Christian (old friend
from many crazy random touring crossings!) from
minarets.net.  IAnother bonus for me was I got to see a
bunch of old buddies from my old highschool-Ashely,
John, Eric Needham.
	
	Did I forget anything?? Well I'm off to Boston!!!
alex Crothers
	
--------------------
	
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 01:00:57 -0500 (EST) 
From: Ben Tanen <btanen@husc.harvard.edu> 
Subject: tonight's (last night's?) show 
To: "Minarets (Dave Matthews Net)" <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
	
	Just returned from Paradise. Literally. The show was
totally incredible.  Indulge me if you will:
	
	I arrived by the T at around 6:50. I met up with
Daniel-GnomeBoy- Greenfling-Gold who arrived a few
minutes later with some buddies that he drove up from
Brown with.
	
	Anyway, doors are supposed to open at 7.  Some guy
comes out at five after and says that the band (ARU) is
sound-checking so we won't be let in just yet.  Daniel
and a friend of his decide to go exploring-- they go
around back of the club and hear ARU running through
Yield Not to Temptation; the door was open since some
guy was delivering beer.  They come back at around
7:30, we wait for another 10-15 minutes.
	
	Finally we get in.  The place is pretty empty, as
there were only 10 people in ahead of us.
	
	ZOOM!  I shoot immediately to the stage.  Carter is
talking to someone there.  Boyd walks in, violin case
in hand.  I walk around the club a bit.  I run into
Dave:
	
	Ben: Um, Dave, hi.  I just wanted to thank you for
coming up to Boston. You know, I've seen in you in New
York a couple of times but I figured now that I am in
school up here I'd never see you guys.
	
	Dave: Well, sure.  What's your name?
	
	Ben: Ben.
	
	Dave: You know, Ben, we have an album that just came
out.
	
	Ben: Yeah.  I read a review of it from a guy in
Charlottesville.  He said you were doomed. [;-)just
kidding netters!]
	
	Anyway, after that I went back to the stage and
planted myself between two of the monitors.  Here's the
club, as viewed from above:
	
	
__________________________________________________________________________
          * balcony *                               |
                    dan's friend, alex, soundboard  |
____________________________________________________|

the audience-- they came to see ARU but WERE IMPRESSED with DMB!!!
                                     my friend lisa
         _________________________me______daniel______________
         |  ___    ___        ___    ___         ___   ___   |
         |  \__\   \__\       |__|  |__|        /__/  /__/   |
         |     Leroi             Dave             Boyd       |
         |                               Stefan              |
         |        ______________      ______________         |
         |        |            |      |            |         |
         |        |  Apt. 258  |      |   Carter   |         |
         |        |            |      |            |         |
         |        |____________|      |____________|         |
         |___________________________________________________|


They played:
One Sweet World
Tripping Billies
Granny
Help Myself
Minarets ***With Carter and Apt.258 both playing drum set!!!!
Dancing Nancies
Lover Lay Down
Ants Marching ***With Carter and Apt.258 both playing drum set!!!!
	
	
	
	Okay.  That's it for me!  I'll let Daniel take over--
but first:
	
	All you C'villers and other Virginians who get to see
Dave and company on a regular, in fact quite frequent,
basis, PLEASE realize just how lucky you are.  I know
that on the net are mostly the real fans and not the
drunken assholes who scream for Halloween and Warehouse
every Tuesday night at Trax and piss the band off, but
come on!  I've got to go and personally thank the guy
to come up here (maybe next time he'll get to do more
than eight tunes) and some people down in Virginia give
'em a hard time in their own backyard!
	
	Oh well.  Enough of that. And BTW, the album is
pretty good on first impression, but I'll give a full
review in a while. (Leroi and Stefan rocked tonight, as
usual, though.)
	
	
	Thanks for listening, y'all.
	
	
	--Ben
	
	
	P.S. I haven't asked this in a while, but I want more
information on John Alagia, the album's producer and
one half of the duo Derryberry and Alagia (yes,
Derryberry is thanked inside).  I forgot to ask Dave
about this tonight.
	
--------------------
	
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 17:35:22 -0500 
To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu 
From: Daniel_Gold@brown.edu
Subject: DMB & ARU  11/12/93 Boston, MA (my review)
	
>Okay.  That's it for me!  I'll let Daniel take over--
	
	well, here i am.  i will offer my additions to Ben's
comments and include a bit about the ARU set (you'll
see why).
	
> Daniel and a friend of his decide to go exploring-- they 
> go around back of the club and hear ARU running through Yield Not to 
> Temptation; the door was open since some guy was delivering beer.
	
	maybe this is trivial, but i saw what i think is
DMB's van behind the club. And i am *sorry* for them.
They must be stuffed in there pretty tight. ARU's van
is small, too.
	
>Anyway, after that I went back to the stage and planted myself between two 
>of the monitors.  Here's the club, as viewed from above:
	
[Ben inserted a nice graphic here...  good job, Ben!]
	
	okay, here's what else i have to say:
	
	that was my first time to see DMB, and i've only
heard two live tapes. They were excellent.  I am
psyched that this band is obviously on the upswing.
They have much creative universe ahead of them.  Is
there any need for me to say that Boyd is a diety? I've
seen a lot of fiddlers (in the hills of Arkansas), and
Boyd is magical in his ability to mesh that sound with
DMB. Leroi is cool, but i think he was a little nervous
when he jammed with ARU.  it took him a few hesitant
blows on his horn to get comfortably in the groove.
Stefan was good.  Just good.  Quite good, but after
seeing Oteil (ARU) it is hard to imagine they are
playing the same instument.  But that's typical; Stefan
will continue to develop his own style, i'm sure.
Carter is wonderful, and he worked especially well with
Apt.Q258 of ARU.  Their simul-timing on Ants Marching
was a sight!  And then there's Dave...  i have this
premonition that he grows on ya'.  His guitar was not
particularly noteworthy, but his vocals: i didn't
groove on them (vocals) too much YET, but i think it
just takes getting used to so i'll know when he's
really going off...  he has a commanding stage presence
that i like.  and, he has written some hot tunes!
	
	Ben didn't tell y'all about the ARU set.  Members
of DMB guested on most of the tunes, so i will include
the setlist with all the notes of who-guested-when. ARU
are amazing at adapting to new sounds and new members,
so the infusion of Carter, Boyd, and Leroi was perfect.
	
	
ARU  11/12/93 at the Paradise in Boston, MA

Jam#                                   (# = w/out Col. Bruce)
Pay Day
Compared to What?
Yeild Not to Temptation
Spoonful
Salty Dog
Basically Frightened*                 (* = w/ Carter)
Time is Free * -->
   Jams# --> Bass [oh wow!] -->
      Time is Free*
Peace and Happiness*+  -->         (+ = w/ Leroi)
   Space is the Place*+ -->
      Drums (Aprt. Q258)  -->  Drums (Carter) -->
         Space is the Place*+  -->
            Chazoid jam -->
               Fixin' to Die*+& -->                (& = w/ Boyd)
                  dying game jam  (ARU's antics)
Tronderossa*
Time Flack
No Egos Underwater*
Two Truckloads
Cheese Frog

e:   Workin' on a Building -->
         Bass -->
             Workin' (w/ Apt. Q258 on Carter's drums)
	
	y'all have already seen the DMB set, so no need to
repost. When Dave sang "what you see is huuuuuuman," it
was one of the few lines i knew and understood, and i
just felt a great MINERATSpower.  Sooooo Enjoyable!
	
	I couldn't buy the stare-e-o-gram poster because if
i hung it in my dorm room, i wouldn't do any homework.
Remember Two Things... 8-)
	
	Oh, and did you guys here that DMB are relocating
to Rhode Island?  What unbelievable luck for me!  [just
kidding]  Well, maybe they will make it up this way
again.  The crowd seemed to be showing a ton of
support.  I wish they would've come out into the crowd
to get a feel for how much we liked 'em.  Good show,
ol' chaps!
	
	"So why would you care to get out of this place? You
and me and all our friends, such a happy human race!"
	
love,daniel
	
--------------------
	
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 14:57:32 -500 (EST) 
From: "J. A. Crothers" <jcrother@moose.uvm.edu> 
Subject: Trinity
To: Dave Matthews Band <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
	
	
WOW 
WOW 
WOW 
WOW 
Does that emphasize it enough; maybeone more 
WOW
	
	Okay, that should do it.  Since Ben and Gnome Boy
took care of Boston and I pretty much covered
Northhampton I guess all that's left is the Trinity
show.  I apologize for I don't have the set list (I
rarely write the set list down during the show-more fun
just to listen to the music and worry about names
later)  I'll listen to the tapes tomorrow sometime and
see how they sound and write down the setlist.
	
	they started late but that wasn't there fault. There
was some Alumni Banquet in the room where they werer
playing so they had to wait until that was over before
setting up.  A good energetic set followed and a large
crowd was there.  Trinity is only about 2000 people (I
think) but there were at least 500 people at the
show-for the beginning at least.  I suppose this had
something to do with the fact that you paid $10 and got
all the free beer you wanted!  And they must have
rolled in 30 kegs berfore the show.  That was gone by
the middle of the second set. Needless to say, there
were alot of drunk people there.  There seems to be an
attraction between Dave and drunk college kids. :) Beer
was being thrown everywhere (including my deck) but
even that didn't hinder the spirtualness of the show.
The room was cool in the fact that there was no
security and smoking was very easy.  Dave took me on a
couple of nice trips. During 'typical' Dave ended up
controlling the whole crowd with an impressive version.
Overall a very good show and a good turnout for there
first time in New England.  Hope they come back SOON.
	
alex Crothers
	
--------------------
	
Date: 15 Nov 1993 23:03:55 -0500 
From: EWHESSE@AMHERST.BITNET 
Subject: Trinity set list 
To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
	
	Here is the set list from Saturday night (11/13/93)
at Trinity College in Hartford, CT. This is in response
to Ben's request and I'm sure others interest:
	
--I--
One Sweet World
Trippin' Billies
Granny
Help Myself
Minarets into
Blue Water into !!
Typical Situation
Lover Lay Down
True Reflections
--Solo--
Just for Tonight
--II--
Ants Marching
Satellite
-tape 1-
What Would You Say?
JimiThing into
Seek Up !!
-filler on 7/21/93 II Flood Zone-
	
	As Alex has said this show was hot! So are the tapes!
Alex and I both have really nice DATs of this
performance. If you'd like a copy drop me a line. I'm
pretty busy with work and taping but I can do one for a
couple people. Preferably analog because my friend is
busy doing some DAT trading right now Yes, the second
set is short but the JimiThing Seek Up is a nice nug of
a fill The band was by no means ending when the lights
abruptly and irrevocably came on as Dave strummed the
opening rhythm to Watchtower. First set highlights
include the Blue Water Baboon Farm into Typical
Situations. I told Dave after the show how appreciative
I was for its return to its right and natural place
behind Minarets. I really think that he Minarets jam
naturally disintegrates into the beginning of Blue
Water. I'd liked the addendum of Typical alot. I miss
the intro into Ants in which the whole band jams around
climbing and descending scales (check out 10/6/93 or
9/1/93 both at the Flood Zone). It's really funky and
has a nice groove to it. Has anyone gotten one
recently? Well, back to work. I hope the set list whets
some appetites!
	
	Eric "Rumors insisted he soon would be for his
deviations taken into custody by the authorities less
informed than he..."


-------------------------
	
Coming in Issue 3:
	* Flame-war erupts on Minarets!

Bye for now,
Ben


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       How could you take a vacation from life?"   -- Vin Scelsa


Posted By: mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 10:26 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

	I am sure that everyone is familiar with Mr. Courtland by now so 
I won't bother reproducing his insightful comments.  Here are my $.02 
about Eryick posting his thoughts to the Minarets.net: (or at least this 
is what I read his post as)

	Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame 
Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! 
Flame Me!   Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! Flame Me! 
Flame Me! Flame Me! and then flame me some more.!

	Well, that's what I heard him say anyway.
				-TY


Posted By: Lyn.Debevoise@williams.edu
Time/Date: 10:57 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> Dave fan.  I would like an apology from all of you that have cloged my
> computer with hate mail.  I have read more than once on this net that
> everyones oppinion should be respected, so why don't you practice what you
> preach.
> 
> Courtland Eyrick

I, for one, agree with Courtland.  Just because someone does not share 
the same tastes as you doesn't mean you have to criticize him to the 
point of making personal attacks.  If you are secure in your admiration 
of the DMB's musical talent, then the opinions of others should not 
matter a bit.  In other words, delete the offending letter and heal your 
"wounds" by listening to some of your favorite music.  
	
					--lyn


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:01 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Transcription to JustAJam

The following is a little transcription to the riff the in the jam 
written at the horse Center that preceed Halloween at both the Horse 
Center and Wait Chapel

E---------------------------------------------
a---------3--4--5-----------5--6--7-----------
d-----3-----------------5---------------------
g--5-----------------7------------------------
b---------------------------------------------
e---------------------------------------------

Any BTW, leave the poor kid alone, it's not our fault his roomate got a 
hold of his account and posted a rude post in his name.....now he'll know 
to keep an extra eye on his account....
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|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
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Posted By: m970168@pratt.nadn.navy.mil
Time/Date: 11:20 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: atlanta/boots

 if anyone hears any more about a show in atlanta, could you please post 
it, or let me know personally.  
 also, i hate to do this, but i was wondering if anyone would consider 
accepting blanks, postage, $, whatever, instead of a trade.  i'm looking 
for early dmb or dave solo/acoustic.  thanks a lot for your time, folks.
dave


Posted By: Hatton.Haralson@Rollins.Edu
Time/Date: 11:26 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 352

that dud from sewanee sure caught some hell from that little
paragraph he wrote on the k-town show.  i'm originally from
knoxville and i had a shitload of friends see it and they said
it was great, except for dave's vocal problem, but even that
was hard to notice.  so listen up sewanee boy, i would suggest
being a little bit more careful in choosing your words to post
on minarets.     
hatton


Posted By: PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 11:39 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: on a lighter note

Last night I heard a bit of a review that is rather humorous.  A college
newspaper writer at Westchester University, reviewing UTTAD, compared

Dave Matthews to "a sober Eddie Vedder".

Hmmmm....Sober?  Obviously he is getting at the incredible voice range both
artists exhibit, or the "two singing voices effect" as my friend called it.
But sober?

What do you think?  How funny would a DMB "Alive" be.  Or a Pearl Jam
"Jimi Thing"?  
		A joint "Daughter/Granny" medley w/alternating parts?

Oh, the possibilities.  But sober?
Anyway, if anyone at Westchester has the article and their is more good
humor, let me know.  Later...

Greg


Posted By: mchang@changtech.res.jhu.edu
Time/Date: 11:40 PM Tuesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 353

> Date: 15 Nov 1993 23:03:55 -0500 
> From: EWHESSE@AMHERST.BITNET 
> Subject: Trinity set list 
> To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
> 	
> 	Here is the set list from Saturday night (11/13/93)
> at Trinity College in Hartford, CT. This is in response
> to Ben's request and I'm sure others interest:
> 	
> Alex and I both have really nice DATs of this
> performance. If you'd like a copy drop me a line. I'm
> pretty busy with work and taping but I can do one for a
> couple people. Preferably analog because my friend is
> busy doing some DAT trading right now Yes, the second

Can I get an analogue of this?  How many tapes?  Thanks...

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Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 12:11 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: on a lighter note

It's a little weird looking back on it now, but my VERY first impression 
of Dave Matthews in describing his voice was "Well, somewhere inbetween 
Paul Simon and Eddie Vedder, sometimes sounding more like one than the 
other, with the ability to change moods at ANY time (Halloween!)"

What do you think?  I hate to say "Dave is Paul," or "Dave is Eddie,", 
because now Dave is Dave, there is no need for me to match him to anyone 
else, but in describing the sound to someone new one must draw comparisons.
It's kinda like describing the music "type" that encompases DMB, Phish, 
GSW, Rusted Root, WSP, BT, Jambay, etc.  I'm not "grouping" them together 
and saying they are all alike, they have very different sounds between 
them, but in describing them to new people (I live in Minnesota, it's a 
common occurance!) it's almost impossible to give them a label.  While 
I'm thinking, does anyone have a really good suggestion?  One that they use?
I know the possibilities are endless, but I think it would be a fun thread.

Just a note, when I bought my copy of Rusted Root's "When I Woke" there 
was a sticker on it.  It said, "To the dealer:  File under acoustic, 
primal, body-moving music" or someting involving those three words.  I 
laughed.  I then looked for the "Primal" section in between "Pop" and 
"Rap". ;)

Peace, love, and unstructured playtime.  (I'm done with finals now!!!)


On Tue, 15 Nov 1994 PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu wrote:

> Last night I heard a bit of a review that is rather humorous.  A college
> newspaper writer at Westchester University, reviewing UTTAD, compared >
> Dave Matthews to "a sober Eddie Vedder". > > Hmmmm....Sober?  Obviously
he is getting at the incredible voice range both > artists exhibit, or the
"two singing voices effect" as my friend called it. > But sober? > > What
do you think?  How funny would a DMB "Alive" be.  Or a Pearl Jam > "Jimi
Thing"?  > A joint "Daughter/Granny" medley w/alternating parts? > > Oh,
the possibilities.  But sober? > Anyway, if anyone at Westchester has the
article and their is more good > humor, let me know.  Later... > > Greg
>


Posted By: pwchan@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 12:17 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

>Are you some kinda idiot or something.  Great opinion, where the fuck is 
>sewanee?  Hey if you don't like them, then get of the net.  This is not 
>really the place to criticise h im.  Why would you even get on this in 
>the first place, let alone venture an opinion like that?  I hope that you 
>like all the mail that you will receive on this one.  To everyone else on 
>the net, sorry, I just felt the need to say something before everyone 
>else does.  One last thing to Courtland, if you don't like the DMB then, 
>it's easy, don't listen to them.  See ya.
>
>
>On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:
>
>> I just saw the Dave Matthews Band in Knoxville, and i hate to say that they
>> just were not that good. i have been playing guitar for three years pretty
>> seriously, and have been in a few pretty good bands,  and i just dont think
>> dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
>> chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.
>> He looks like he's gay, and also on drugs, and boyd and steffan just stand
>> there, this band has no stage presence!!!!!!  Whats the big deal with
>> them!!!! dave is just a bad impression of cat stevens or van morrison.  
>> 
>> 


Sorry you all had to scroll down for this but it needs to be said.  It is
called freedom of speach, look into it.  Where can any of you begin to
smoke someone else for his opinion (and yes, I am smoking those who tried
to smoke him).  He has the right to say this regardless of whether or not
any of us agree and also to be on the NET is he so chooses, regardless of
whether or not he is a Dave fan.  Everyone is entitled to their own 2
cents, and this is just mine.  I think that Dave's being sick must have had
a negative affect, but he can say that if he wants.  Boyd is awesome, but
does he ever jump around stage and keep the eyes pleased.  He does go sick,
but usually stays in the same spot stage left. You listen for the sound
cause that is what is most important...  Stefan is the same way.  On
UTTAD's Warehouse, Stefan does some of the coolest bass I have ever heard. 
IT just grooves.  Once again, however, he does not exactly jump around
stage and keep the audience enthralled.  Then again, is that really
necessary???  Isn't a concert a place where you are supposed to listen to
music.  One of the best concerts I ever saw was Clapton, and he does not
move more than 5 steps around the stage at any point in the show.  After
all, the music of any group is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of any show, be it
the DMB, The Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam, or ayone else out there...

Thanks.
Paul Chandler

(PS  the only comments I didn't agree with of Courtland's were the
sexuality and drugs.  as someone else put it, what do they have to do with
the music he plays???)


Posted By: mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 1:00 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Apology

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth,  I tried to send this privately but 
it got returned, so if your first name isn't Courtland, You may disregard.

Thank you for setting me straight.  I am afraid that I have not been here
long enough to catch when peoples accounts are being fucked with.  I also
made the mistake of not reading through all of my mail and if I had I
would have realized that you had not written that.  I really didn't think
I sent much of a flame but under the circumstances I think your reply was
warranted.  Well anyway, I am sorry.
                        -TY


Posted By: rmg@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 1:01 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Courtland Eyrick

Before we get a pro-Dave anti-Dave thing going, let me just please ask 
you all not to rip Courtland Eyrick for his misunderstanding and untimely 
review of the DMB.  I actually have no problem reading anti-Dave 
sentiment, but by declaring Dave a bad performer because, in part, he "looks 
like he's gay," Courtland has shown his own illegitmacy as a reviewer, so 
he need not be taken seriously.  Please, let's just leave it at 
that to save us all.  Courtland: please don't write on the net 
again if you plan to be as closed minded and narrow as your post was.  
This is to protect you: you will be ripped to shreds by people who feel 
the same way I do but have less patience.  Please heed this advice 
because we really don't need this shit.  This has happened on the Phish 
net with competition between the Dead and Phish with all the name calling, 
etc. and we don't need it.
Russ.


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 1:32 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: if you need me neil and me'll be hangin out with the dreamking

ah yet again a mild disturbance ensues.
[tsk tsk tsk]
maybe everybody should go listen to fugazi?! (i am... 13 songs)

here is the image: the whole universe is energized by love. the force of 
love causing the great swings of the galazies. the passion of love 
lighting the intense energy of the stars. the fantastic power of growth 
and reproduction of all of the life forces of the worlds. all of these 
forces are love. that's the image. the beauty of the concept can break 
your heart. love does make the world go round.  are you a part of the 
great circle, or have you closed yoruself off from it?

ahhhhhh.... now for a cigarette.... 
will anyone give me a hug before i nod out for the night?
clare alice in wonderland emily


'when you feel terrific, notify your face!'


Posted By: acwhee0@mik.uky.edu
Time/Date: 2:00 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject:

subscribe
Help put me on the list, please.


Posted By: pfollow@unix.cc.emory.edu
Time/Date: 2:02 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 352

To whoever said in digest 352 that Dave is not a good guitar player was 
WAY OFF BASE.  Dave isn't a bad guitar player, as this person suggested, 
just because he uses chords that "aren't in the magazines or books" that 
this person has learned from.  I'm a music major who's been playing 
guitar for over six big years now and who is a music major (classical 
guitar), but any type of artist would tell you that just because someone 
doesn't do it by the book doesn't mean that they're untalented.  In fact, 
it suggests to me that they're all the more creative, especially Dave 
(who I understand is self-taught).  Dave might not ALWAYS play standard 
folk chords; he often uses triadic inversions.  And even if he was 
committing an unspeakable guitar sin by playing these non-standard 
chords, I wouldn't complain because I still think the tunes sound pretty 
damn good.
All in all, Dave is an excellent self-taught rhythm guitar player and an 
incredible song writer to boot.  I also have no complaints about his 
vocals.  His voice is his trademark.
					-Pete(r)


Posted By: AHENNE@drew.edu
Time/Date: 2:13 AM Wednesday, November 15, 1994
Subject: Re: the flaming of Courtland

i just thought that, although i didn't personally post any comments, that 
i'd extend a net-wide apology to courtland-->sorry, friend.  you didn't 
deserve that flaming.

as for the person who actually did write the post...well, i absolutely 
agree that they have every right to dislike dave, and to say so.  i 
respectfully disagree with the statement about dave's guitar playing (so 
it's not in a book?  that's a _good_ thing...)  what really bothered me, 
though was the whole, "he looks like he's gay and on drugs" bit.  now, we 
all know there's no such thing as "looking like you're gay," right?  and 
even if he was, we all know that's just fine, right?

just checking.


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 2:16 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: TUNE ME!!!

I may have some answers to the tuning question - Some have me pegged with 
perfect pitch (but I'm still a bit wary) - I can't hear any tunning 
difference in and of the songs, except Steffan occasionally with a 
dropped D on "Seek Up", "Dancing Nancies", and #36.  He's also the only 
one I've witnessed tune down on stage so...however, I have heard several 
recordings of Satellite and (After Her) that are not in the same key as 
they appear in the album - this is probably due to being played in a 
different position - I won't go back into that whole intro bit - BUT, the 
interesting thing is that a few weeks back at the ritz in Raleigh,NC dave 
had his second guitar tuned to an eery dropped half-note.  Maybe a 
quarter-step...Anyway, before they started "minarets" I noticed both Dave 
and Steffan change instruments - each with this new tuning I presume - 
and Boyd played some crafty stuff that I hadn't heard before.  Leroi 
played with his sax a bit as well, although I don't know if you can 
change the pitch of a sax.  The song had a very murky sound that I didn't 
much care for and I've never heard it since so...Perhaps dave is taking 
the next step and going into the realm of new tunings --- let's hope not 
though, then his songs might be REALLY hard to play. 

So as for now I'll keep doing my covers in standard tuning.  

food for thought---but not too much

                -----------------------------------------
          "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:26 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: your mail

Okay I had to get in on it...

>dave is that good of a player.  he plays in chords that i dont recognize,
>chords that dont even exist in the books and magazines that i learned from.

I just thought I might point out that anything with three or more notes can
be considered a chord.  Any three notes as long as they are DIFFERENT notes.

But as far as Dave goes, well, you're WRONG.  Just because when he plays a D
chord he doesn't play it the standard la-di-da way doesn't make him any worse
(in fact it makes him more knowledgable) a guitarist.

Later my dears (especally cathy for ignoring me!),

ben

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 4:49 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 Tree

The 11/11/94 Dave Tree is officailly closed!  I will be gettiong in touch 
with all of the members within the next day.  Get ready, we mant to get 
this thing done fast!


Peace & out...

Japhy


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:50 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: No Alternate Tunings

Nope.
Dave doesn't use none.  At least he doesn't now.  He's probably experimented
with them in the past, but for a playing musician they can be a pain,
especially when most Dave songs were written, Dave didn't have someone to
take one guitar and tune it to, lets say, DADGAD (EVERYONE PLAY DADGAD! It's
soooooo fun) while he's playing a tune in standard/another alternate tuning.

But I'd love to hear what Dave could do with it.  You can get lots of rich
OSW-intro-like fingerpicking things with neato hypnotic drones going.

The only slight change in tuning I can think of is Steffan tuning the low E
down to D for Seek Up.

To sum up:
Alternate tunings are keen, Dave just doesn't use them (I SWEAR cathy!)

stressed ben

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 8:14 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Regarding Courtland

I have a few comments to make regarding Courtland's request for an
apology.  The first is as a system administrator, it is my opinion
that it doesn't matter WHO posted a message from your account, you are
responsible for ensuring that you and only you use the account, and
how it gets used.  Second, just as whomever it was that posted the
flamebait had every right to post it, everyone who replied had just as
much of a right to do so.  I responded with a low temperature answer
to his message, and some chose the high temperature response.  Posting
flamebait is asking for that type of response.  

Please, in the future, if you decide that someone deserves crispy
underwear, use email.  And we (yup, I include myself here) should all
publicly ignore flamebait.

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: SHERWOODS@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 9:33 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: RE:your mail

i can play the bass string left-handed and you don't see that in any
handbook, and i think i'm pretty damn good at it.

didn't dmb play true and angel, that's a treat, i don't care if he looks
gay (by the way i saw him with a girl on two separate occasions)
at the knoxville show. 

the band isn't lifeless, just your impression is.

cat stevens comparison. Now when I think about it, you're kind of right
on this on. Stevens' violin player and saxophonist were amazing. 
i tihnk he's the one who originally did ants marching.

van morrison comparison, if you want easy chords to play to back up
your guitar knowledge, look no further than to van.

that's enough for now. it's always fun to jump on any bandwagon once
in a while.


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SATELITE@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU
Time/Date: 10:44 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: atlanta/boots

I do not know if it has already been mentioned, but I have two
interesting facts.

First, for those near Atlanta over Christmas, Dave is playing at
the Fox Theater on Dec. 27.  Tickets go on sale Saturday and are
through Ticketmaster.  Hope to see you there.

Second, I just heard that DMB sold out London.  Is this true?

Geoffrey


Posted By: Matthew.S.Bruno@williams.edu
Time/Date: 10:48 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: W&L setlist confirmed!!

hey everyone-
  Yesterday I posted about an unknown setlist, well I've figured it out.
The band thanks Algood for letting them open for them.  I think it is
Carter Buford who says he's looking forward to their show.  Well, here's
the list.

DMB@ W&L Pavilion 2-6-93
Satellite
Granny
Lie in our Graves
Help Myself
The Maker
Ants
Warehouse (with funky lyrics added by Dave!!)
Minarets
Bluewater (great violin jam!!)
Halloween
So much to say
True Reflections
Recently

There you have it.  I may be interested in spreding this tape around in the
near future for those of you who don't have it.  Thanks

      Matt


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:54 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 353

>From: Ben Tanen <btanen@husc.harvard.edu>
>	Ben: Yeah.  I read a review of it from a guy in
>Charlottesville.  He said you were doomed. [;-)just
>kidding netters!]
>	
ben, i think you were around these parts when r2t came out,
and this is exactly what happened.  talk about a flame war...
in fact i know you were here, you reposted that review a couple
of weeks ago...

>	
>	All you C'villers and other Virginians who get to see
>Dave and company on a regular, in fact quite frequent,
>basis, PLEASE realize just how lucky you are.  I know
>that on the net are mostly the real fans and not the
>drunken assholes who scream for Halloween and Warehouse
>every Tuesday night at Trax and piss the band off, but
>come on!  I've got to go and personally thank the guy
>to come up here (maybe next time he'll get to do more
>than eight tunes) and some people down in Virginia give
>'em a hard time in their own backyard!
>	
now hold on folks....dave has played the c-ville area 4 times
since jan 1:  2-22, 4-20, 9-27 and 11-9.
i think people from colorado are fairing better than that...



____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 11:11 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Trinity memories

Ben.... thanks. I remember when they had to flip on the houselights and 
pull Dave off the stage just as he started into Watchtower at a little 
after 2 am. Too bad I was so computer-illiterate at the time, I could've 
met up with some minaretters!

Happy with 1000 screaming fans, but reminiscing about $10 admission and 
free beer for everyone (elm city beer, I believe),
			Adam


It's been a while since I've seen a newbie offer... remember, the band 
allows taping, so should you!


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 11:30 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: The Ever-Awaited Ziggy's (e:) Tree!

    Greetings and salivations to all out on the net.  I have taken the
liberty of sending a copy of this tree to the fellas in DC via our
friend Randy. 
        I have the sneaking hunch that I misspelled an email address
here or there, so PLEASE double check this.  I've posted this to lots
of relevant places so that ya'll can double check me.  I repeat,
PLEASE CHECK YOUR ADDRESS!


    

    The tree will work as follows:  I will list all the folks out
there who wanted copies in hierarchical order.  Actually, the worst
any of you will do is a 2 gen copy from the analog end.  I don't know
how may copies Gray will be spinning on his DAT, but should be a large
tree, I hope.  If you're a branch, you asked to be one or didn't mind
spinning several copies, ie 3-5+.  I'm personally making about
10-15, but I work fast, so if you don't want to trade, get your blanks
to me quick!  If you do want to trade, please let me know soon.  I
have some trades on hold till I can get some stuff to trade.  Newbies
out there, bit of cheap advice: go take *&all&* the stuff you need to
get a tape from a board, that means everything, and if the band
permits, just hook in, and get a 0 gen analog board, that's what I
have and then tree the sucker, and get lots of good stuff to trade
with all the folks who want trades, and not blanks.  Soap box over. 
Here's the tree and if ANYONE has questions, or I misspelled your
email address, let me know quickly, so I can change it.  This list is
being posted to your account, minarets, bt-net, horde-net, Underwater
People, and everything's account.  Hope this helps, and maybe if any
of you are going to NYE in DC, I might just see you there at the
board!  I hope Ryan'll let me tape. later, peace, and may the soulfish
swim with ya!

Notes: I have had to change the setup of the tape, it'll be a 110
minute tape to get all the cool chatter.  There's even an incident
recorded for posterity, but you'll get some good filler, but mediocre
quality from 3/93 Davidson PiKA, some rare stuff! Don't complain,
it'll be great!  

        I'm going to prefer to trade, so I can get some stuff, as
written above...[ grovel grovel].  If you want to just do blanks
that's okay too.  For all you folks who are trading with me or are
sending blanks, my snailmail address: Will Foy PO Box 2151 Davidson,
NC 28036.  As Craig will say in the tape: "Let's get this thing
Rolling, Let's get this a f*cking rolling, man!"

Here goes:

wifoy@davidson.edu
    miah@merle.acns.nwu.edu
         lmpautle@artsci.wustl.edu
         podella@ldpost1.daytonoh.ncr.com
    stens@morgan.com
        jmweinbe@artsci.wustl.edu
        mcelvain.ucsu.colorado.edu
    medicus@uinivscvm.csd.scarolina.edu
        robert4192@aol.com
        ppluscht@uai.vm.ua.edu
    whb4@cornell.edu
        jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
        cajohnso@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
    bmking@mail.wm.edu
        gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
    msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
        sweet42109@aol.com
    rtmurray@turing.uncg.edu    
        laural4523@aol.com
        kulpk@tiger.hsc.edu
    mgcorr@colby.edu
        cjarrell@moose.uvm.edu
        pbilodea@haverford.edu
    grelling@case.wisc.edu
         st95343w@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu   
    jrbaldwi@eos.ncsu.edu
        hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu
        deters@m5.mtc.com       
    david.a.merrill@dartmouth.edu
        awp3@columbia.edu  
        barrett.s.shaver@dartmouth.edu
    malachi@leland.stanford.edu
        lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
    grayp@pinn.net
    erin.keys@mail.cc.trincoll.edu
        palber@corp.cssi.net
        sean.berry@mail.cc.trincoll.edu
    rblanco@emerald.tufts.edu    
        jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu
      
         
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    "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies?
   ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set you
        free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  "Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but I, I'll work it out, and then I, 
           look up at the sky"-Dave Matthews Band:Dancing Nancies
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: JOHNSTOAL@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 11:45 AM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Granny!!

Well,
 They finally played Granny. It's too bad that whoever that Parisi guy is
,I mean, whose last seven shows have included 7 satellites and 0 Grannys
couldn't be there. It's a good sign though Greg. Keep your head up. Maybe 
at NYE Dave will give you a little treat. Anyway, keep the dream alive, and
who are you taking to formal this weekend?
                                AJ


Posted By: gottlieb@bu4090.barry.edu
Time/Date: 12:00 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Just a thought

My mailbox has been absolutely flooded with responses about that girl
who thought Dave and band were not good.  My two cents(hey, everyone
else had a turn):  All I have to say is that I came across a live 
tape of Dave 2 years ago and I thought the playing and lyrics were
the most original and inspiring I've heard in a long time.  That's
all I have to say.

Next topic:  How is Dave?  I heard he was ill.  Also, to Daniel
Kantor, I'm sending your requests by Friday.  That is if this
Tropical Storm doesn't turn into a hurricane.  It's time to 
seal up the windows and turn this building into a submarine.

Last note:  What are the new songs that Dave is playing on tour?

Good vibes to all,

ADAM


Posted By: @CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:AHOLLAND.97@DIANA.HCHS.HUNTER.CUNY.EDU
Time/Date: 12:13 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Nov.7

Does anyone out there have a copy of Dave Matthew's Nov 7@ Irving 
Plaza?  I have a lot of phish and GSW to trade.  Any help will be 
appreciated.
                                    Thanks,
                                     Adam


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 12:41 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: No More Courtland!

Hey Now,
	Please, I beg of you all, don't clog up the net with flame
response to the Courtland post. It was just a misunderstanding, and the
blatent flamebait of his roomate (I think his name is Asshole). Let's
talk about more positive things like how UTTAD is number 1 in RS 
in the alternative section!
				Jonathan


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 1:08 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 353

On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug wrote:

> >	
> >	All you C'villers and other Virginians who get to see
> >Dave and company on a regular, in fact quite frequent,
> >basis, PLEASE realize just how lucky you are.  I know
> >that on the net are mostly the real fans and not the
> >drunken assholes who scream for Halloween and Warehouse
> >every Tuesday night at Trax and piss the band off, but
> >come on!  I've got to go and personally thank the guy
> >to come up here (maybe next time he'll get to do more
> >than eight tunes) and some people down in Virginia give
> >'em a hard time in their own backyard!
> >	
> now hold on folks....dave has played the c-ville area 4 times
> since jan 1:  2-22, 4-20, 9-27 and 11-9.
> i think people from colorado are fairing better than that...
> 

Just a reminder about this minarets-history thing-- the post above that 
Rick quotes is from a year ago.  Things were different then.  We begged 
to get them out of the DC-to-Charlotte area.

Come to think of it, a THREE-night stand in Boulder?  They're going to 
HAVE to pull out some rare ones to keep it fresh by the third night.

-Ben


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:21 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Hehehe I play drums for DMB

On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, Matthew S Bruno wrote:

> The band thanks Algood for letting them open for them.  I think it is
> Carter Buford who says he's looking forward to their show.  Well, here's

hehehe I had always hoped someone would switch my last name with 
carter's. Too bad I'm a guitar/bass player. Oh well, Stefan Buford sounds 
pretty hip also....

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford 							|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
| "The future is no place to place your better days..." 		|
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|v3.1	|-)				David Matthews	 		|
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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:44 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Dave and his inverted triad chords...

Seeing as this is a hot new topic in Dave's guitar playing, maybe we 
should give a little lesson on it and toss it in the tab file. I have 
played for many years but only took lessons for a short while, so 
basically and inverted triad chord don't mean nuthin' to mean. I know a 
lot of the funky chords that dave uses, but I call them the "Funky say 
Goodbye" chord or the "Back You Up/Lover Lay Down" E-chord or the 
"Tripping Billies/Lover" little fingering... anyone wanna post, or send 
me personally, a little inverted traid chord lesson/explanation??

Latr....

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Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:MFOR8178@URIACC.URI.EDU
Time/Date: 2:02 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: RUSTED ROOT ON TV!!!!!

Rusted Root will be on Conan O'Brien tonite

 Did anyone catch Santana last night on Letterman?


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 2:05 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: D A V E ' S S O B R I E T Y

Hi all
   i just wanted to post on the fact that the show at the wait chapel was
excellent, and when speaking with an employee of Ziggy's tavern, he stated
that in all his years of seein dmb that was the most sober he has ever seen
dave.  anyway i think it probably had something to do with the church
thing, ya know?  this could probably account for the lack of energy and
lack of movement (boyd).  there were also equipment problems as well.  i'm
very jealous of the fact that y'all got to here granny, i was waiting for
it in winston and also boone.  when it wasn't played in knoxville either, i
was concerned.      just my thoughts
                          bruce


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 2:42 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: The silly boy eats his whey

I personally think that dave sounds like my buddy cory, they're both 
completely wack...

on a more realistic note, how about the master Mr. Michael Stipe?  
Listen to Jimmi and Inside out back to back and I dare you to ignore the 
similarities...And now both are almost (and completely) bald.

gee what?

sean

                -----------------------------------------
          "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: @CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:AHOLLAND.97@DIANA.HCHS.HUNTER.CUNY.EDU
Time/Date: 2:43 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: any tapes out there...

I'm new to minarets, and relatively new to DMB.  I am looking for any 
tapes I can get, and I have a lot of good recent phish and GSW to 
trade.  Anyone interested, please let me know.
-Adam


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 2:52 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Ponderings

Just let me say that for once I'm glad it's not me being flamed. Now down to
business, am I mistaken or at one time wasn't "Christmas Song" titled "Blood"?
Does anyone have a copy of the Lisner show that they would like to trade (after
thanksgiving)? A friend of mine suggested that we call ourselves Satellites,
because we all circle around Dave and we are all held togehther by his gravity.
Were it not for him we would all just be spinning around in the cosmos and not
tied down here with each other. As much as I would like to despise the name, it
is quite apropos. Clare, I don't know you, but I want to give you a big hug!
:-) For all of you looking for a newbie offer, wait until after T-giving and
maybe santa will come early. *hint-rent "Shaft"-hint* I'm on the e: tree, do I
need to send blanks? To the person above me? Why is my head spinning? Is it
because I haven't eaten in three days? Jerm's a cool guy. Jeff: I've got
another one for ya', this one's from the Lex show-"I have alittle sister, she
just got engaged. Her name is Jane, this is The Song that Jane Likes!"(yes,
jeff, that's true). I really should go eat/sleep, sorry for rambling, but there
are a few questions in there that do need answering. Anybody who's made it this
far deserves a piping-hot "Toast-on-a-Stick!"
							Kev :-Q

"Hey! That guy's got my head!"
				-Dave

AD INFINITUM, for your pleasure, cool refreshing Marlboros are provided in the
lounge of this message.


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:13 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject:

I MUST urge that the name for Dave followers NOT, REPEAT NOT be
"Satellites"...

...hell...if that's the case, why not call ourselves "ants
marching to the fucking slaughter"???

or for that matter, "Schmutz"s???

NO...no way...not gonna do it...

Find a better song to describe me by...if you must...

i prefer to be called "a fan".

Wade


Posted By: DLALLISON@unca.edu
Time/Date: 3:19 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: ATLANTA AND OTHER THINGS..

Hey all!
Im ready for the 12/27 show in atlanta. The Fox Theater will
be an awesome setting. Hope to see many of you there!
As far as the infamous scandal concerning the letter
about the K-vile show, IM GLAD ITS DYING DOWN!
I love DMB as much as the rest of you do. We simply
have to ignore comments like that. Everyone has an opinion.
I just think it was a dumb way to present it. this
is a DMB internet for God's sake !!! the person should
(and i suppose DID know) the rage and hostility the
letter would cause. The person simply wanted attention
and plenty was given! Now lets drop it and immerse
ourselves in saxophones, violins, drums, guitars, bass
and fade away with Dave's lyrics lingering in our
ears........................
                              "...we just ignore them and they go 
                                  away..." Dave Matthews
                              
                            Dusty
                        dlallison@unca.edu


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SLM94002@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Time/Date: 4:06 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: help me expand!

Hello all! I am pretty new to the internet and moderately new (one year) to
DMB but completely love 'em!   I would love to get some tapes from old shows
but am afraid I can't offer much in return. :(  Also does anyone have a copy
of the Lupo's show in Providence, RI?  What an absolutely amazing and fun
show! If anyone can be of any assistance, i am much obliged. Thanks!

                                              shelley


Posted By: pwchan@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 4:27 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: the DMB in RS

I suscribe to Rolling Stone but have not noticed Dave in the alternative
charts.  Maybe I have not gotten the newest issue but the latest one I have
gotten does not even have the charts in it--it is the Generation X issue. 
Can anyone tell me who is on the cover of the issue in question???  By the
way, this is not the first time the DMB has made it into Rolling Stone. 
Right after Remember Two Things came out, they also made the alternative
charts in Rolling Stone one issue.  I don't remember the issue number or
anything but I think they were something like number 5 in this particular
one.  Since then, I have not noticed them anywhere else on the charts in
RS.  Thanks to anyone who can help.

Paul Chandler


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 4:31 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Questions...

Hey. Heres a few questions I have.
Any truth to the rumor that Dave does a cover of Zep's Tangerine?
Where will dmb be on new years eve?
I also heard that 'Jane' got engaged...
Any reviews from the acoustic show last week in NYC w/ Shannen Worrall?
What the hell is the thing that hangs from Dave's right side? Its like 
	his shoulder strap is 3 feet too long...?

"could i have been caught in public in my underpants..."
			-Dave M.

Replys are welcome... Dave


Posted By: TWDUNCAN@ucs.indiana.edu
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: the song that schwagger likes

Two nights ago, Dave and rusted root ended their tour at Indiana.  Dave played
2 and half hours and played everything off their cd's except typical situation
lover lay down, #34, halloween, and watchtower.  The show ended with Root and 
Dave playing "minarets".  In all there were 11 people on stage, which was 
pretty nice.  They also played cry freedom and a few other tunes that I can't
remember.  Boyd got in on the vocals for a song and dave played an excellent  
version of jimi thing.  During the show dave said something funny to a girl
who turned 21 that night.  He said...
"It's great for 2 or 3 months or a year and then it starts to suck...and then   you start to drink alone".  

In other news:
	      To the guy from that sweet place sawnee or something.
I don't know if you tried to be funny guy or to see how many people would
dislike you?  Perhaps you wrote a letter on why you dislike dave on the
Dave Network because you were dropped on your head when you were little, or
maybe you were born retarded, or could you actually be that parking lot 
attendant that dave frequently sings about.  Anyway you look at it your message
was disliked and you should consider retiring from the network if you decide to post such garbage in the future.

	      If anyone on the network lives or could tell about any info on
Davison north carolina I would greatly appreciate it.  The reason being is that
I could be heading down there Dec.9-11 for final four in soccer.  So if anyone
has any info on where to stay, or even where Davison is at I would appreciate 
it.         
				Dunc.


Posted By: stenhot@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 5:05 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Dave Rules, period

I just joined the Dave Net today.  I must say that the mail I've  
recieved so far is very interesting.  I go to Allegheny college in  
Meadville Pennsylvania.  My brother goes to Wake Forest and has seen  
many shows at Ziggy's.  He started giving me tapes about two years  
ago, and "The Best Of What's Around and Granny" blew my mind.  I  
caught the band on October first in Philadelphia with and band called  
>From good Homes.  the show was as amazing a set list as I have ever  
heard dave play.  On Oct 7, I caught the band with another group that  
is huge where I am called Rusted Root.  Root headlined and kicked all  
kinds of ass.  Dave played a shorter set but was still great.  If  
anyone has any tapes they would like to excchange, I am definitely  
interested.  I have many I can offer in return.


-Styx...

P.S.  Carter Beaufort is a very nice man to talk to.   
Really!!!!---What the fuck was that?


Posted By: hls5c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 5:17 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: leroi

hey all,
     i was just listening to a dmb tape of flood zone on 6/23/94 and in
between songs leroi starts playing a minuet by beethoven (i'm pretty sure). i
thought it was really cool and i wondered if anyone else has heard him do
this. just curious (and avoiding studying).



                eat drink and be merry,
                       heather

p.s. i'm dying for a copy of 11/9/94. please help me. how 'bout a tree?
anyone?





               
 smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile smile
   
  "Gone are the days we stopped to decide where we should go, now we
      just ride." ---- Grateful Dead


Posted By: jcmuniz@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Time/Date: 5:17 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Multiple Topics

Hello There,

I have to say Minarets gets an "A" for handling that well placed 
piece of flamebait. No one seemed to take it too seriously, and
most everyone who responded did so with intelligently and with
minimal "Dave is God - so you're wrong". We seem to be farther up
on the evolutionary ladder than our counterparts, the DeadWipes
and the Phishwipes 8^) (anyone else follow those ridiculous Phish
vs. Dead epics?).

As far as alternate tunings, I wasn't there in the early early days,
and I've never seen Dave do any extensive tuning between songs, and
the only time I've seen him switch geetars is when he breaks a string.
I doubt his roomate/guitar-tuner guy does the alternate tungings for 
him.

see yous later,
Kwon


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 5:36 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: winner

The poem below was written by Lara Call and she gets a tape for her 
efforts
	thanx to all who sent me a poem they were all great -some were 
serious and some were goofy, but i liked them all...




Ode to dmb

The band plays some good tunes,
I like to listen to them when my head is in fumes,
(or when my roomate is trying to sleep)
Some tunes are cool, others make me weep.
I like to paint while listening to dave, 
His songs give me inspiration that I often crave.
None of the songs are repetitive or alike,
That is one of the many reasons it is dmb that I like.
But, i really don't have time to be Dickinson or Poe,
I just want to say dmb can put on a great show!


Lara Call                                  0  0   
ljc5p@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu -------->  l  o   l  "You and me and all our
                                         l______l   friends, such a happy 
                                                    human race" - Dave




two more daze until i get to go home!!!!!!!


Posted By: akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 5:47 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: DROP THE SUBJECT!!!

Gees peats folks!  Courland said he didn't do it and he apologized for what
happened!  I've always thought of the folks on this net as being laid back
and cool about stuff but
I'm starting to wonder!  I'd also appreciate it if some of y'all you stop
bashing Sewanee.  Dave's got a lot of fans up here on the mountain and
every time I see him he talks about comin back up here.  We're out in the
middle of nowhere so people don't tend to lock their doors or worry about
their stuff being tampered with.  For people like me who leave their
computer on 24/7 that means any one could walk in and use my comp.  But I
don't worry about it cause we have an honor code.  Obviously it has its
weaknesses but you can't blame Courtland for that.  So lets just drop the
subject and forget this little incident ever happened.  We're here
(Courtland included) because we love Dave, not because we hate people who
don't.

Just my $.02 worth
Jen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together."  --Robert Fulghum
"Lost in the arms of morpheous -- that somnambulistic state of glorious
oblivion......"  --my daddy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 5:50 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: and in the mist does she rise..... (was Re: winner)

wow. 
lara call's been totally on the ball lately..
she won my buffalo question and a free show because of it..

neato schmeato!

go eat blue popsicles.  'excuse me but can i be you for awhile?'

love and light, 
maid marian

*******************************************************************************
                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 5:52 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: the DMB in RS

Dave is Number 1 in the latest RS. (Brad Pitt Cover), In the alt.charts 
from DC....
Dave


Posted By: SLY@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:52 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject:

Hey all,
Sorry to courtland, I understand that it was a mean joke that your roomie pla    
played on you...but I was shocked aat the amount of attention you recieved
for suckh a post!  I am a relative newbie(but not a "screamwbie compared to all of you guys, I 
have onlytbeen on the newt fo a little while or three months, and have only liked Dave for
about a year or so, forgive me St. Louis is not a very the place to live if you like music
Since I have been on minarets I have only posted a few times, and was sad to 
come home to an empty mailbox except for digests-thank .  I have tried emai-mailing people
personally, and only recieved one response(THANX JOSH GgG.!)  But other than that
my prospecting prfor tapes has gone over trather poorly.  I hate to say that I 
only have tow two Dave tapeslive LIVE daDave tapes(1st CD Release Party).  When I hear all yof of you
guys talking aboiut how great all these songs are IT SIXSUCKS!  My virgin rears have
never heard "Halloween" nor #@"36" ."  The problem is...I WANT TO HEAR THIS STUFF
ist seems like nobodyy is willing to take the time to help me get my collection
started, I have Phish & Dead to offer, not much else

ish(sorry, no 94'ssbsds) and Dead to offerrr.  , but nobody seems
to want any of thismy stuff.  If everybody who "FLAMED" Coutrtland could agree to 
spin someone whi o LIKES Dave one or two tapes...I would be off to a great start
I hate to waste so mych bandwidth on a GROVEL, but I don't know how else I 
can get my hab``nds on some tasty tapes.  I f anyone has the time, aor is simplyy
kind enough to help me out, simply e-mail me or post it to the digest-although
posting your kindness on the digest may set you up for mayny unwanted requests.
ANY HELP WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIEAATED.  You all are so kind to reaeachother, this
net is so much different than Phish.Net whererall the Vets sit bacjk and BITCH
abougt how great things used to pbe, I hope I will be able to experience some
of this gerneroiusity for myself.  Thanks to all thoiss e who acknowledyhege , and 
sorry to all of the people who thihnhnk I am ridiculuoous for asking suchg a 
question.  later, I wdone't want to waste any more speace...
Thomas J. SLlyy  
St. Louis, Mo.
Sly@sluvca.slu.edu
P.S. Dont flame me for thiss...but I' d really like to know thwhat "spooning" means
Thanks again to all you cool people out therree who respond.  Are any        .  peace


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:14 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: my mail

zBi,]k

*******************************************************************************
                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do i.  However my roomate does
> not and wrote that nasty letter.  I would appreciate it if you would quit
> writting about it.  Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true
> Dave fan
> 
> Courtland Eyrick
> 
>


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 6:19 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: RS

To the person that said they saw DMB in Rolling Stone after R2T came out, R2T
was #1 on that chart, but I think that was only for a week.
							Kev :-Q
In honor of the e: tree,

"let's trip the wild fantastic with the world as your lover...."
							e: 
As always, for your convenience smoking IS allowed in my message.


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:27 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: my mail

On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Courtland Eyrick wrote:

> I am glad that all of you love Dave but so do i.  However my roomate does
> not and wrote that nasty letter.  I would appreciate it if you would quit
> writting about it.  Ask the net master herself,Clare that is, i am a true
> Dave fan
> 
> Courtland Eyrick
> 
> 

ah courtland.. you flatter me so.... 
i am but a simple girl wanting simple things. 

i say we all lay off this guy with the cool-ass name.. ok?

love and light.....
maid marian (the feminine-tomboy)

*******************************************************************************
                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 6:33 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: SOMUCHTOSAY

somuchtosaysomuchtosaysomuchtosaysomuchtosay
littlefeetlittlehandslittlebaby!
        - i hope this makes you smile -
                     - bruce


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 7:13 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: TR3

Hello to all.  This message is about our old buddy Tim Reynolds.  I saw a 
flyer saying that TR3,  Tims band,  I think,  is playing her in old 
Blacksburg.  I have seen Tim play with Dave 4 times now,  but never in his 
own band.  The flyer showed pictures of the band,  but I didn't see Tim in 
it.  Is he still playing with TR3?  If anyone knows much about TR3,  if you 
could tell me whats up I would appreciate it.  If it's Tim I'll stay and go 
see them play.  Thanks!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: Barrett.S.Shaver@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 7:23 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Get In Line

I haven't seen the lyrics to Get In Line posted yet so i figured i'd try it
out. The following was transcribed from 10/9/94.
There are a couple indistinguishable parts which i have marked with (?).I'm
sure there are tapes out there where the lyrics are clearer, and probably
people with better transcriptions and interpretations. anyway...
											
										
GET IN LINE

(the first line i'm totally lost on)
don't bump me, don't bump me if you mind
i come run over say hey i'm handl(ing)
and hours and hours stand in line
no faith does grow from this mess here
i work time to spend on my dreams see
going hungry and so them, they're waiting
said oh don't worry here till the battle
said oh yes running faster and faster by
said oh (               ?               ) no worry
said oh (        ?         )trouble(?) to stand by

said oh don't worry 
							and though i say, i
will be
say please don't worry
							i'm taking all i can
in

said oh yeah i wonder i wonder it's amazing
(             ?              ) if you don't get in line
when they take will they give back again?
when this thing comes, this refusal to ride
came on a boat, came on a plane, to make 		
					this my home
all they say is man stand up get in line
and if i don't get to you come back 			
					tomorrow
but i'm tired of this tired of this faded line
so i tell you man sometimes i want to say
oh what can i say to my wife, my children
oh dreams (  ?  ) in this place but oh but oh

said oh man i'm growing cold and 	
					disappointed
said oh man don't you see what i mean
					i'm discouraged
said oh this crazy mess got me extreme
					in the back of my mind
i say but don't worry
					we have all you need right inside
but i say let me do this, 
					the freedom you describe

said oh i worry
said oh i see i see

(       ?       ) inviting me into your doorstep
oh, angry and wanting to rake it all in
i'm taken surprise in this hole, i'm 		
					worried
said god don't take me for granted,
					nor my dreams.
they are faced with disgust,
					in the way that you treat me.


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 7:33 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: my state of mind

Hi all,

I'm located directly in front of richsun7, one of many hated computer
terminals here at Georgia Tech.  On top of that, I'm programming instead
of having fun tonight...but, I'm listening to dave on the headset...
"could I have been anyone other than me..."....and I'm in a great mood.
Funny how that works, huh?!  Think of me while you laugh and play in the
fields of unending (well, for a while at least) pleasure. (that last
line is for all of those who are enjoying Dave and have nothing more to
concern them at the time...oh, if life could be so heavenly.) I'll
see you all in Atlanta.

Much Grass,
Shug


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 7:41 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Tape Covers..

Does anyone have a program to make tape covers?
I am going to try and make some covers for my Dave tapes...I have enough now :)


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 7:48 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: The Music Monitor Top 10 Reasons to Listen to Dave

The Dave Matthews Band
Under the Table and Dreaming
Top 10 reasons to give this a listen.
by Robert Beverly
10.     Fiddler Boyd Tinsley broke up his own succesful group to join the DMB.
9.      Songs combine multi-layered arrangements with plenty of open space.  
To that extant,  they are the musical equivalent of a croissant,  or a 
perfect souffle,  or maybe a . . . well,  you get the idea.
8.      Steve Lillywhite,  who produced early albums by Peter Gabriel and 
U2,  asked if he could produce Under the Table and Dreaming.
7.      The Dave Matthews Band is the only band that is anchored by a jazz 
drummer and a classicaly trained bassist,  has no electric guitar,  and can 
somehow get compared to Pearl Jam,  Aaron Neville,  Blues Traveler,  and 
Michael Stipe.
6.      Dave,  who sounds like no one else on Earth,  is the only member of 
the band with no Native American blood.  (Sorry,  I realize that this is not 
a reason-this is a factoid.)
5.      Having made their reputation playing live,  the band recorded the 
basic tracks for Under the Table and Dreaming the same way.
4.      Lyrics contemplate philosophy while taking you around the world in 
thirty seconds:  "Could I have been a parking lot attendant?/Could I have 
been a millionare in Bel Air?/Could I have been lost somwhere in 
Paris?/Could I have been your little brother?"
3.      The DMB is the most talented,  eclectic group of musicians to record 
a major label debut this year,  and that debut,  Under the Table and 
Dreaming is excellent.
2.      You can ignore the opinions like the one above and decide for yourself.
1.      Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever.


        That's the article,  word for word as found in the Record Exchange 
Music Monitor,  issue no. 66!  
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: mchang@changtech.res.jhu.edu
Time/Date: 8:33 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: Tape Covers..

On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote:

> Does anyone have a program to make tape covers?
> I am going to try and make some covers for my Dave tapes...I have enough now :)
> 

I'd like to suggest caselinr.exe for Windows 3.1.  It prints out very 
nice tape covers for you...

Find it at your local SimTel archive or better.

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Posted By: mgcorr@COLBY.EDU
Time/Date: 8:58 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 355

> I MUST urge that the name for Dave followers NOT, REPEAT NOT be
>"Satellites"...
>
>..hell...if that's the case, why not call ourselves "ants
>marching to the fucking slaughter"???
>
>or for that matter, "Schmutz"s???
>
>NO...no way...not gonna do it...
>
>Find a better song to describe me by...if you must...
>
>i prefer to be called "a fan".
>
>Wade
>


how about ...."Jimi's"  ?

mike


___

<><
let's get down to the... nitty gritty     
<><


Posted By: kreytatd@maple.lemoyne.edu
Time/Date: 9:23 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Tape Trading Ettiquete SP?

OK-
I have been a dave fan for a while, got my first tapes through the usual
channels, my buddy, bob.  Anyway, those tapes were good to listen to, but
not the best quality.  I have been taping for quite some time.  Us up here
in Syracuse don't get much Dave, ever!  They played with HORDE this summer,
but a Rochester show never surfaced.

Back to the point of this message, everyone, wants good tapes right?
I think that we all need to keep a few thigngs in mind, while trading
amongst each other.  

1. First off clean your decks (most of us take showers every day right?).
this is the same thing, that means demagnization, and head cleaning. Cost
less than 10 bucks to get this stuph, and it lasts a life time.

2. Please record source and generation.  Many people want to know this,
I personally don't mind getting a tape or two without knowing the gen.
I have some phish tapes which are 8 or nine years old and I know the gen.
Dave isn't that old, and more than half of my tapes are of unknown
generation.  Basically the standard for this is that DAT's dont "age"
generation wise.  Analogs do.  First copy off DAT, or  source is 0 gen 
or master, then the first copy of that is 1 gen, 2nd, etc... 

3. have some idea, what your tapes sound like in relation to others, ie
dont explain that your so fuckin great awesome tape from the end of 93
is the best and I have to have it, and then I get it and it sounds like
dave and the bunch are playing inside a tin can.  They haven't ever played
a show inside a tin can.  Have they? ;-)

4.  And please take this for what it is worth.  I don't want to insult
anyone, I have traded with, or that I might trade with in the future. 
Please follow these or some similar guidelines when making tapes for others
and trading in the future.  It is good karma(whatever that is) to spread
good dave, or anything else you might be interested in, I am sure that
It will manifest into some sweet sounding tapes falling into your lap 
some day. 

5.  And remember the more you spread the music the more others will
understand what dave is about.  And to all of you who have kept with me
through this rambling, I will make a newdie offer, actually just a newbie
offer for all you newbies, I will make you some Dave, just get in touch, 
the tapes I will make are my first two good quality tapes.  2-27-93 I,II
90min I dont think it is a full show. and II of 3-4-94 90min.  Get in touch
with me, I think I am going to limit this to ten, so write fast. Any how
these tapes are both master analog from a DAT.  Yours will be first gen,
keep it going, whoever you make these for, theirs will be 2nd gen.
And you know the rest, the key to reducing hiss is clean and demagnitized
heads.  Thanks again for listening and enjoy the break, all you collegians
out there, I know I will.
later
-tim   
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411 Bronson Road       real full vomit, but you're totally out of control of
Syracuse, NY 13219     your body, your body is telling your mind to f**k
	               off, I'm done with you, i'm taking over, that's
kreytatd@maple.lemoyne.edu      what good music is.  -Trey 
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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:40 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Two things...that you should remember hehehehe

1)I still have yet to get the Shannon Worrell tapes from here at W&L, but 
when I do I'll set up some kind of tree since I've had a few requests.
I'll post more later, especially when I finish this 15 page paper due in 
12 hours that I haven't started....

2)anyone know any good lawyers in the Davie County area, 
This goes out especially to those at Wake Forest, any ideas on legal 
counsel..

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Posted By: JOSANDS@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 9:41 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 355

I am a DMB fan from Davidson college in Davidson N.C.  And have listened to dave for about
two years.  I think that this internet set up is great.  I play a lot of his 
songs on guitar and I looking for some chord tablature.  Does
anyone else play his stuff?  I guess I should leave a 
quote because everyone else

does.   "Oh Little Chicken, eyes staring up at you"--Oct.31.

I want some mail so somebody write me and explain to me why carter wheres
spandex when he plays.  No disrespect, he is the best drummer
I have ever heard.  Listen to one sweet world a couple times and
you will see


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:14 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: the long dangly thing is dave's earwax...

that thing is dave's guitar strap, and the reason it hangs so well (double
entendre not intended;) is that he plays with his guitar hiked way, way
up.  most guitarists play with the guitar way down near their waste (peter
hook of new order plays with his bass literally haning at his knees), but
dave prefers it up on his chest.  with the narrow body guitars he uses,
it makes sense, because the constant rhythmic motion of his right hand (oy,
this is starting to sound like the smurf post) can get tiring if his 
arm is too low.  i've tried it, and though it doesn't make sense here in
print, it does make sense in practice.  for those of you who play rhythm
guitar, remember how tricky it got the first few times you played standing
up?  well, having the guitar pulled up high mimics the sitting down postion,
and it's easy to pull it up high without the bulk of a full body guitar.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: @mail.trincoll.edu:Thomas.Thrasher@mail.trincoll.edu
Time/Date: 10:15 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: please disconnect me

I'm sorry, but I just can not handle so much mail! I get too much to sort
through.  So please disconnect me.  Sorry for any inconvienence.


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:28 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 355

in minarets 355, scott miller shares:

>Top 10 reasons to give this a listen.
>by Robert Beverly
>10.     Fiddler Boyd Tinsley broke up his own succesful group to join the DMB.
is this true?

>9.      Songs combine multi-layered arrangements with plenty of open space.
>To that extant,  they are the musical equivalent of a croissant,  or a
>perfect souffle,  or maybe a . . . well,  you get the idea.
er....is this true?

>8.      Steve Lillywhite,  who produced early albums by Peter Gabriel and
>U2,  asked if he could produce Under the Table and Dreaming.
well, if you hate u2 and peter gabriel, you can tell dave to f**k off...

>7.      The Dave Matthews Band is the only band that is anchored by a jazz
>drummer and a classicaly trained bassist,  has no electric guitar,  and can
>somehow get compared to Pearl Jam,  Aaron Neville,  Blues Traveler,  and
>Michael Stipe.
well, this is true.
>6.      Dave,  who sounds like no one else on Earth,  is the only member of
>the band with no Native American blood.  (Sorry,  I realize that this is not
>a reason-this is a factoid.)
again,  is this really true?  i didn't know that boyd, leroi, carter and
stefan all had indian blood in them.  that's what Native American means.
maybe native American...

>5.      Having made their reputation playing live,  the band recorded the
>basic tracks for Under the Table and Dreaming the same way.
i'll by that.

>4.      Lyrics contemplate philosophy while taking you around the world in
>thirty seconds:  "Could I have been a parking lot attendant?/Could I have
>been a millionare in Bel Air?/Could I have been lost somwhere in
>Paris?/Could I have been your little brother?"
>3.      The DMB is the most talented,  eclectic group of musicians to record
>a major label debut this year,  and that debut,  Under the Table and
>Dreaming is excellent.
this is definitely true.  :)


>2.      You can ignore the opinions like the one above and decide for yourself.
no, no, i'm a top 40 FREAK!!!! i LIKE people making decision for me....

>1.      Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever.

thank god.

this egg shaped presentation has been brought to you by the letter 0, an
undrilled bowling ball, and a pair of safety siccors.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \     dave matthews band faq type
        --immanuel kant               \  person and lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \   rick thompson
                                   \  <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: DLALLISON@unca.edu
Time/Date: 10:42 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: WEIRD THINGS MAN..WEIRD THINGS

HEY ALL!
DONT FORGET TO STAY UP TONIGHT TO CATCH RUSTED ROOT'S PERFORMANCE
ON CONAN O'BRIAN.
 ALSO, SOMEONE HELP ME OUT WITH THIS IF YOU CAN. IT WOULD BE 
APPRECIATED.
THE ATLANTA SHOW IS SCHEDULED FOR 12/27. IT SAYS SO ON THE
DMB MAILING LIST AND SEVERAL ON THE NET HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE FOX THEATER AND SOLD BY TICKETMASTER.
EARLIER TODAY I CALLED THE GA TICKETMASTER AND THEY CONFIRMED
THAT ITS TRUE. TONIGHT I CALLED THEM BACK TO ASK A CERTAIN
QUESTION AND NOW THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY HAVE NO SHOWING
OF A DMB SHOW. THEY SAY THAT (EVERYONE SITTING DOWN FOR THIS?)
...BON JOVI IS SCEDULED TO PLAY AT THE FOX ON 12/27! WHAT THE
HELL!?!? SOMEONE HELP AND FIGURE THIS ONE OUT. SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS.
                                       DUSTY
                                 DLALLISON@UNCA.EDU


Posted By: DAMOJONNIER@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 11:09 PM Wednesday, November 16, 1994
Subject: native american, blood

>6.      Dave,  who sounds like no one else on Earth,  is the only member of
>the band with no Native American blood.  (Sorry,  I realize that this is not
>a reason-this is a factoid.)
>    again,  is this really true?  i didn't know that boyd, leroi, carter and
>stefan all had indian blood in them.  that's what Native American means.
>maybe native American...

  yeah, but isn't stefan from amsterdam anyway?  Indians aren't from 
amsterdam... :)

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|your actions, for when you act by instinct		       	       Free James Brown!
|alone, you become as the gods that wish to         	damojonnier@davidson.edu
|become you.                         -Me                  Tampa Nuggets Sublime 
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Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 12:17 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Davidson the Final Four Vol III

    Someone I forgot whom, asked where the heck is Davidson, and how
do I get there....

    It's kind of like Philomath[ dig up the REM trivia].  Basically
it's simple.  We're nestled deep in the northern end of Mecklenberg
County, about 20 north of Charlotte, NC.  I's-85 and 77 provide
access.  Be prepared to walk a lot if you're here for the NCAA finals
in Men's Soccer.  If you can orient yourself to Charlotte, then we're
north on 77 at Exit 30, which will read "Davidson-Davidson College"
and you'll figure out the rest, when you get backed up on the
interstate.  From 85, we're about 25 miles north of Charlotte, and
take the Concord Exit.  You'll take a left if you're coming
northbound, right if southbound and go for about 3-4 miles.  You'll
see a sign that says Davidson -> and you'll take that right and go
for about a mile at which point, you'll run into a stop/yield sign and
a t-intersection. take a left and be prepared to park somewhere and
it'll likely be expensive, hey it should be if we have to move all of
our cars.... anyway, hope that helps. any minarnetters coming to the
final four, give me a buzz via email or call me when you get here. i'd
love to meet you guys/ya'll ;).  Bring your lists...

obligatory dave note:  thanks to all for dropping the flaming.  we
have indeed evolved over our compatriots even the national midnight
star as recently as last year had lots o flamebait.  wish i could'a
been there for the wait show, as I live in winston when I'm not
slaving over my courses here at Davidson.


Peace, Will
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    "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies?
   ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set you
        free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  "Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but I, I'll work it out, and then I, 
           look up at the sky"-Dave Matthews Band:Dancing Nancies
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Posted By: Hatton.Haralson@Rollins.Edu
Time/Date: 12:25 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: apologies to Courtland

courtland,
    listen, i din't mean to piss you off.  i was just expressing
a thought.  there's really no need for the hate mail you sent
me, though i do understand your hostility.  so let's
call it even.  no hard feelings, o.k.?
    anyway, how's life up at sewanee?  i went to boarding 
school down the road at baylor in chattavegas and i really
do miss the mountains, the colder weather, and the excellent
rock climbing.  But i traded all of that for four years in the
sun.  don't rag on Rollins, it got rated #3 in the south this year.
besides, i am getting a fine education, plus a tan, plus a
chance to waterski for a national championchip team.  but
that doesn't mean i wouldn't like to have a degree from 
the University of the South, but i'll cope.  
anyway, please don't be angry.  c-ya later.
-hatton


Posted By: SLY@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:50 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Loss t Address

Would the personkind person whoi replied to my grovel -a person from C'ville, 
I hat e to ask, but could you please send me your e-mail address once more,e.
I was reading your setlist and accidently sopmehow this terminal got disconnected, 


















































list of tapes(quite extensive) and somehow this terminal
doicscioonnected tiitself-Thanx.  Sorry to all for the wasted bandwidth.
Cahtheriinngne, we have to sppontrtry spooning together sometime!
later
Thomas J. SLyly
StSly@sluvca.slu.edu
thankss to all others who rhave rexsponded to my post.
peace


Posted By: jhprog@infi.net
Time/Date: 2:03 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: DIRTBALL

Does anyone know where I can get some high quality dirtball soundboards?
I'll pay top dollar.

dirtman


Posted By: saf1@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 2:15 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: re:randoms

me and johnfro saw a really sweet band tonight at Duke called God Street 
Wine.  They really jam and you all should check them out if you can b/c 
they are really good.  here is their upcoming schedule:

N18  Ziggy's in Winston Salem
N19  Crossroads - c'ville
N21  Floodzone -richmond
N23  Stony Pony -asbury pk, ny
D 7  East Stroudsberg U. - the fighting enigineers!!!
D 9  penn st - Tatoo
D 13  northampton, mass -pearl st.
D 30  the Bayou in D.C.
D 31  Irving Plaza in the City

Sorry for the non-dmb material but GSW is good so I wanted to pass the word.

I love clare and so does johnfro.
Nebulous Ben of New York is my main man!

"if i could, i would, but i don't know how..."  phish

sandy


Posted By: croutons@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 2:28 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 355

On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:

> in minarets 355, scott miller shares:
> 
> >1.      Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever.
> 
> thank god.
> 

While I am not a member of the Paul Schaffer fan club, this is obviously 
a reference to the new BT album, on which Paul makes a guest appearance 
and I would have to say that it is a damn fine album. Not that any of 
this is a reason to or not to listen to either of these albums, just 
thought I would share. bye...

Justin

| "..old enough to know what's right, but young enough   |       Roweman
|  not to choose it...noble enough to win the world, but |   croutons@leland.
|  weak enough to lose it"                               |     stanford.edu
|                                        -Rush           |On a midnight radio..


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 2:38 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Great and elusive DAT!

        I about to purchase a new stereo,  or at least several pieces and am 
interested in DAT machines and now the new mini-disc.  Mini-discs are still 
really freakin expensive and I think DAT's are cheaper.  I read the FAQ,  
but it wasn't too explicit as to the cost and benifits etc..  Some of you 
out there have DAT machines,  are they worth the money?  Has anything been 
released in DAT format such as new albums?  How much are blank tapes, etc... 
 If someone could just write back with the pros and cons,  and maybe even 
specific machines and prices I would be greatful.  This might cheer up those 
who are easily amused by bad jokes:   Why was the flower mad at the bee?     
 You'd be mad too if someone stole your honey and nectar!
        You have to say nectar like "necked her".  Haaahaaahaaahaaahaaa ...  
Oh was that sooo funny.  Yikes they're throwing tomatoes!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: eyriccc0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 2:58 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject:

sorry that all of you have to read this but i can not get it sent straight
to russ

Russ, 
        I dont want a fight but i will let you in on a little secret.  Here
at sewanee we have computer in every room, classroom or dorm room.  I do
not have to go anywhere to type a message, therefore if my roomate wants to
use my computer to incite a riot he can.  He does not have to have any
password or he doesn't have to have any account.  I think the net could use
some more anti-dave stuff, but it wasn't me who did it.  I know dave
personally and respect his talents as a muscian.  Still there is no reason
for all the flaming that occured over one message.  Why don't you just
leave it alone.

courtland


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 3:40 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 355

On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, Michael G. Corr wrote:

> > I MUST urge that the name for Dave followers NOT, REPEAT NOT be
> >"Satellites"...
> >
> >..hell...if that's the case, why not call ourselves "ants
> >marching to the fucking slaughter"???
> >
> >or for that matter, "Schmutz"s???
> >
> >NO...no way...not gonna do it...
> >
> >Find a better song to describe me by...if you must...
> >
> >i prefer to be called "a fan".
> >
> >Wade
> >
> 
> 
> how about ...."Jimi's"  ?
> 
> mike
> 
> 
> ___
> 
> <><
> let's get down to the... nitty gritty     
> <><  
> 
> 

Personally, I kind of like...

		GRANNIES!

			M A L A C H I


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 4:05 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: apologies to Courtland

  I saw your message on the net and thought I'd reply, for your tune 
sounds similar to mine.  After six yrs. as a day student at McCallie, I 
just couldn't resist four years in the sun (it's a different sun out 
here, believe it or not).  Anyway, you also mentioned climbing, and I 
know (or used to know) quite a few climbers in Chatt, several of them Baylor 
students.  When did you graduate?  BTW, in case you get Climbing 
magazine, one of my friends recently went to Junior Worlds in Berlin, and 
he's often in the mag;  anyways, I can't get in touch with him and I'd 
like to find out how he did, so if you'd sift through Climbing looking 
for the name Sam Adams, It'd be much appreciated.

			Thanks,
			   M A L A C H I


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 4:12 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Sorry about the last message

Sorry about that last message, it wasn't meant for the entire net!

		M A L A C H I


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 4:28 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 355

Justin,
	Atta way to stick up for the ol' BT boys.  How's it going?  I 
haven't talked to you for a while.

			M A L A C H I

On Thu, 17 Nov 1994, Roweman wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Nov 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:
> 
> > in minarets 355, scott miller shares:
> > 
> > >1.      Paul Schaffer makes absolutley no guest appearances whatsoever.
> > 
> > thank god.
> > 
> 
> While I am not a member of the Paul Schaffer fan club, this is obviously 
> a reference to the new BT album, on which Paul makes a guest appearance 
> and I would have to say that it is a damn fine album. Not that any of 
> this is a reason to or not to listen to either of these albums, just 
> thought I would share. bye...
> 
> Justin
> 
> | "..old enough to know what's right, but young enough   |       Roweman
> |  not to choose it...noble enough to win the world, but |   croutons@leland.
> |  weak enough to lose it"                               |     stanford.edu
> |                                        -Rush           |On a midnight radio..
> 
>


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 4:40 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Apology about Bandwidth

Sorry about all four of these messages, I think I just wasted about a 
year's worth of bandwidth.  Our system must be entirely &%*^ed up, 
because I'm sure I didn't reply to the entire net either time.

BTW, I think we should be called Grannies, because, for many of us, a 
dream life would be rocking on a porch knitting and listening to DMB.

		Sorry again,
			M A L A C H I


Posted By: hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu
Time/Date: 8:39 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Rusted Root on Conan

Hey now,
	For all you who missed it, the Root did a standard but very nice 
version of "Send Me on my Way" last night on Conan. They looked relaxed but
at the same time psyched to be on TV.  So which late night show show will
be the first to put the DMB on, and what do you think they'd play?

Brian

________________________________________________________________________________

 Brian T. Hauser               hauser@chem.ufl.edu          Expert
 Department of Chemistry    hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu       in chemical
 University of Florida                                            demolitions
________________________________________________________________________________


Posted By: gottlieb@bu4090.barry.edu
Time/Date: 11:22 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: What would you say?

I have a few tapes where Dave starts singing something about "sailing"
midway through " What would you say?"  Does anyone know what song this is
and if he still plays it this way?

Appreciatively,

Adam


Posted By: kowalski@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Time/Date: 11:55 AM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: setlist?

I was wondering if anyone out there knew the setlist for DMB at the Bayou 
in DC last Thanksgiving(or Sat. after), I think it was Nov. 27,1993.  
That was back when I didn't know the names to any of the songs, although 
I do remember loving them all.  Now I'm just curious as to what I heard.  
Also, I don't know if there even were tapers, but if anyone has a copy of the 
show, I'd like to trade, although I don't have much to go on.  I just 
think it would be cool to have a show that I was at.  Anyway, I'd really 
appreciate any info.  I guess I'm just getting nostalgic since it's that 
time of year again.
This is my first post... I finally took the big step...
Kim


Posted By: KevTad@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:15 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: dat?

I'm considering purchasing a dat deck and was would appreciate it if any one
could give me some advice on what to look for and how to go about taping at
the shows.
thanks
kevin
kevtad@aolcom

"there are hundreds of thousands of different things you can eat that aren't
cheese."  -Dave Matthews


Posted By: DSCHMITT@utkvx.utk.edu
Time/Date: 12:51 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: my vote

Chalk up another vote for "grannies." The "oldies" (as opposed to newbies)
can call themselves "great grannies."     Doug   (first post :)


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Minarets

Hey Now,
        Why don't we just call ourselves "minarets". The name has multiple
uses. It refers to DMB-heads, and those of us on the net would know where
the name came from (besides the song title). Maybe we should vote on the 
name issue one of these days. On another note, could anyone out there help
me to obtain any crispy soundboards of any Dave/Tim acoustic show? I have
no DMB to trade, but I have plenty of Phish and Grateful Dead. I would 
really appreciate any assistance. Thanks.

			Jonathan (who has no relevant Dave quote)


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 1:32 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: the freaks come out at night...

Who plays the piano on the 11/17/92 tape from Trax?  Was he/she a rarity, 
or an early regular?  Whoever it is really good...I'd like to hear more.

gee ee

sean
                -----------------------------------------
          "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: TUHERBERT@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 1:33 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: grannies

i personally think grannies is a terrific name for dave followers. and might
i add that this is my first post and that i certainly feel comfortable around
all of you other grannies. thanks for making me feel so welcome.
Turner


Posted By: RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:36 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: minarets.....

> Hey Now,
>         Why don't we just call ourselves "minarets". The name has multiple
> uses. It refers to DMB-heads, and those of us on the net would know where
> the name came from (besides the song title). 

a minaret refers to religious places in the Islamic world.... help me out here
brian it was in one of our history movies....
minarets fit cause we aall take dave pretty religiously (sp)
to all those who are exspecting tapes from me they arre in the mail...

thanks
rich


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
e-mail: in%"rpprisin@vax1.acs.jmu.edu" phone #: (703)568-7253


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 1:38 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Paul Schaffer

If I could shoot one person in the world, I would pick Paul Scaffer.  He just
really annoys me !!! :(

alex


Posted By: sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu
Time/Date: 2:02 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Another vote for Minarets

I second Minarets.
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 2:17 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: Paul Schaffer

> 
> If I could shoot one person in the world, I would pick Paul Scaffer.  He just
> really annoys me !!! :(
> 
> alex
> 

I agree, he is really annoying, but I *do* believe he is a *very* good
musician. He has a great sense of timing and he plays mean Hammond B-3.

Matt Thompson


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 2:41 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Random (again)

I'll have to be the 335th person to cast my vote for "Grannies" but this
doesn't mean I'm going to stop sending in suggestions by my friend (actually he
suggested minarets also, but for a different reason). Let's throw a few more of
his suggestions out why don't we: Billies, Nancies, Grannies, oh.. I can't
remember, but I'm sure their were more.  Why don't we all call ourselves
Dave-come-latelies, that way there won't be any way to distinguish oldies and
newbies, it'll be equality at it's finest. Ok, stop booing. Since everybody
uses this net to post their favorite non-DMB bands, I'll throw one in. The Gibb
Droll Band has been one of my favorites for about three years now. They (Gibb)
have an awesome bluesy sound to their originals, and are not afraid to blow the
doors off of some blues classics. I can't help but to think that Gibb has to be
the greatest LIVING guitar player around, anybody who's ever seen him can back
me up. He's also the nicest, most polite person I've ever had the pleasure of
meeting.  If he ever comes your way, even if you hate the blues, you've got to
check him out. And don't be afraid to go talk to him before/after the show,
he's very receptive and what's more ver GRATEFUL of his fans. He's truelly a
class act. After T-giving I'm thinking of enlisting somebody to help tree one
of his shows, anyone interested? Well I'm wasting way too much bandwidth (that
seems to be a habit with me lately) So I'll Say Goodbye (didja' see what I did
there?) and thank you for your support. I'll leave a light on for ya'.

This one's to Clare, why? Because she just IS:)
"Everyday I smile a smile. The smile I give to you."
						-e:
"I say....there seems to be a woman asleep in your sink."
				      		-Pynchon

"This song's about armchairs, fickle grandparents, filthy socks and dirty
underpants" -Dave

			Makin'(love), Bakin'(my mind), & Shakin'(mybooty)
						Kev :-Q

As per usual, good music is always accompanied by a tasty Marlboro in my
messages. Light up and enjoy.


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 2:47 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: songs...

In response to someone yesterday...I have also heard that the 'Christmas 
song' was called 'blood' at one time.
Also 'Dangerous Hours' a.k.a. 'Help Myself'...
Does the instrumental that is always before 'one sweet world' have a name?

'Stephan Lesard on the bass guitar, and Beavis on the big t.v.' Dave M.

thanks, 

Dave


Posted By: stenhot@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 2:48 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Cool Shit

TOP TEN HORDE BANDS CURRENTLY  -please write me your reactions


10.Spin Doctors--Yes they sold out, but they showed the world
                   what Horde was
9. Allgood--Amazing Blues
8. Bela' Fleck and the Flecktones-If you've heard them I need not                                     

                                  explain
7. Rusted Root--Coming on strong from Pittsburgh
6. Big Head Todd and the Monsters--Todd Mohr can certainly play
5. Blues Traveller--Another Pioneer, but watch out for the Hatters
4. Phish--Enough Said
3. Widespread Panic--Ain't Life Grand is their best effort since              

                     Space Wrangler
2. The Dave Matthews Band--Boy there's a surprise
1. The Allman Brothers Band--The original Pioneers


  Allright, for those who wrote me on those offers for tapes I really  
appreciate it (Oct 7, Oct 1).  Let's try to work out a trade or  
something after thanksgiving.  Whoever wrote the entry on God Street  
Wine, I'm really curious about them and their sound.  I've heard only  
good things so far.  Fill me in with some FAQ.
  I would assume that some of you are from Wake Forest on this net.   
My brother's name is Rob Stenhouse and he is a delta kappa epsilon  
there, so if you know him tell him I said Hi.
  If anyone has any info on dave's new year's eve show in richmond,  
give me some info, I want to go down on a little road trip from  
syracuse.  e-mail me, mail me, call me, or stop by.

Todd Stenhouse
Box 980
Allegheny College
Meadville, Pa.  16335 


Room 69 Phi Kappa Psi house--Penn Beta.


P.S.  I vote for "Grannies"


Posted By: trs9y@sunipc-3.unixlab.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:12 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 356

-> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 13:32:46 -0500 (EST)
-> From: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
-> To: Minarets list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
-> Subject: the freaks come out at night...
-> Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411171337.A17308-0100000@bigbang.phy.duke.edu>
-> 
-> 
-> Who plays the piano on the 11/17/92 tape from Trax?  Was he/she a rarity, 
-> or an early regular?  Whoever it is really good...I'd like to hear more.
-> 
-> gee ee
-> 
-> sean
->                 -----------------------------------------
->           "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
->                 -----------------------------------------
->                               Sean Spicer
->                     Duke University, Dept. of Physics
-> 
	That would be Peter Griesar, the band's keyboard player for about
	a year, until he quit and/or the band kicked him out.  All I remember
	about his departure is showing up at Trax one Tuesday and Dave saying
	something like "Peter will be with us no more.  Bye bye Peter."

				-later

======================================================================
Tom Schwenk
trs9y@sunipc-3.unixlab.virginia.edu

     "...The herbivores ate well 'cause their food did never run..."

						-Phish
======================================================================


Posted By: EIQ9DXB@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Time/Date: 3:46 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: going sour

I've been getting heavily into DMB lately, but I'm not crazy about this
high-volume wack list. I've tried to unsubscribe three times and I can't
get off it. As more minarets messages stream into my box, my opinion of
DMB is getting tainted by association and that SUCKS.

Someone please get me off this list so I can enjoy the music.

EIQ9DXB@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU

thank you


Posted By: klemmao4@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 4:18 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 356

Just a random request or offer that I'd like to send out. I'm interested 
in coming up with a new DMB shirt that would be unique to the die-hard 
minareters. Not to do this out of cockeyness to all the newcomers of the 
DMB, but its always nice to have some unique memorabilia that 
distinguishes you from the masses. One of my friends from the UVA art 
school did an awesome oil painting of Dave at the DEKE house at UVa a 
while back. I made it into a cool shirt and have a poster of it. If 
anybody out there would be interested in having a copy of it, drop me a 
line and we'll work something out. Also, I think it would be cool if we 
could scrape up that old picture of Dave when his hair was down to his 
shoulders, and turn it into something. I don't know if anyone saw any of 
the artwork which was submitted before R2T, but there was also a 
Picasso-ish painting of the entire band which was absolutely 
amasing.Don't get me wrong, I don't want to abuse the band's sales 
market and go on some mass-marketing scheme that would detract from the 
bands success, but it may be nice to have a unique shirt or something. 
Anyone that has any suggestions or artwork that could be transformed into 
a "limited edition" shirt, please post.Once again, this is just a 
suggestion, and not a plan to create a hierachy amongst fans.
						Later,
						Anders


Posted By: sfrazier
Time/Date: 4:27 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Newbies please

              --**ATTENTION HOLIDAY SHOPPERS**--

Get yourself something nice this holiday season and give something 
back to your friends on the net. I am offering a copy of the 11/9/94 
Lexington show to as many newbies as I can. All I ask is that whoever 
gets a copy, please share it with others on and off minarets. I believe 
it will take 2 tapes so if you have a really good show to trade tell me 
about it, if not send me blanks. Um...as I said I'll do as many as I can 
as this is an attempt to keep me busy during the break. I encourage other 
fellow Grannies out there to do the same. After all this is the season of 
giving isn't it? :) Anyways send me an e-mail and I'll get back to you 
telling you what to do next. Thanks for your time :)

Scott 
sfrazier@moose.uvm.edu

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!!


Posted By: @mail.trincoll.edu:sean.berry@mail.trincoll.edu
Time/Date: 4:30 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Trinity Memories

Thanks Ben once again for your history. That Trinity show was great it was
one of hte tightest sets in recent memory, MInarets->Bluewater, Jimi
Thing->Seek Up in the same show. The Bluewater was one of the few played
since then, I might even venture to say, I haven't seen it on a setlist
since Trinity, correct me if I am wrong(I know you will anyway) The
greatest thing about it was, was the fact I had to walk all of 15 yards to
get to the show,  that may be the shortest.
Keep up the history lessons Ben, hopefully people won't read them and this
net will be doomed to repeat itself. We would be back to same 40 or so
people, wouldn't that be great.
Sean


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 5:29 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: minarets.....

"screaming from the minarets"
refers to calling from the minarets, tops of towers in the islamic world,
that it is the hour for prayer ....  teh minartes are sortof steeples on 
the masques and instead of a tolling bell it is a calling person

random tidbits
catherine


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 5:40 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: peeeetahhh

> -> 
> 	That would be Peter Griesar, the band's keyboard player for about
> 	a year, until he quit and/or the band kicked him out.  All I remember
> 	about his departure is showing up at Trax one Tuesday and Dave saying
> 	something like "Peter will be with us no more.  Bye bye Peter."
> 
> 				-later
> 
> ======================================================================
> Tom Schwenk
> ======================================================================
> 
nah KICKED OUT is a little an the harsh side, i believe
i think it was more of a peacable, amiable relaization that Peter had 
different goals and such, which made his niche in the band a little 
uncomfortable .. so on friendly terms he left to persue other prioriteis 
or something
i just know that i have always had the feelingit was very friendly
innuways ... as wierd as it sounds i am of the opinion that although the 
keyboards were groovy , the band has a much more polished sound without 
it, except peter was excellent for some crazy fun jams 
soo while i am on the subject, have so crazy fun
catherine


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 5:47 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: im on a postin kick

TRINITY ahh i wasnt there ...butt i got tapes and i must say that the 
JIMMITHING is my fav' version 
leroy just jams and jams and does a little sanford a nd son?? improv that 
cracks me up
theres this little jam that fitts perfectly .. kindof a strutin aroubf 
think aitn life grand sound ... its great
and honory dave banter
"this goes out all those that see the image and those that seek to see 
the image.."

refering to cover of r2t??
i think im gona go dance around my room to it right now
catherine


Posted By: Matthew.S.Bruno@williams.edu
Time/Date: 6:04 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Algood!!

Hey everyone-
   I've alot of you talking about Algood lately.  If anyone can give me
some info on how to get a disk or perhaps (grovel,grovel) some tapes.  I do
have DMB, WSP, to trade if it comes to that.  Thanks.
   Matt


Posted By: eje3u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 6:11 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Yes, a Boyd Tinsley Band

>>Top 10 reasons to give this a listen.
>>by Robert Beverly
>>10.     Fiddler Boyd Tinsley broke up his own succesful group to
>>join the DMB.
>is this true?
 Not in the sense that he said "Look at that band, I might as well get rid of
mine" but he was playing in both for a time (his was called the Boyd Tinsley
Band, another original name) and in fact I believe was only picking up with
Dave, but when things picked up, his band sort of faded away and he became a
permanent part of our lives.  I went to the BTB farewell concert at Trax, 
and it was very poorly attended.  The guitarist from that group was Harry
Faulkner, who together with Boyd formed a duet called Down Boy Down to play
smaller gigs during the same era.  They played every Sunday night at Blue
Ridge Brewery and kept the place packed.  I last saw Harry at a bar here in
town after the Horde concert in Richmond and I was sort of bummed for him,
with Boyd moving on and up so fast.  He really is a master of the small bar
guitar cover gig though, always plays Norwegian Wood for me, and not just a
snippet of it like some other bands :)
 
 ("I once had a girl....")
 Eric Edwardson


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 6:13 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: New Year's eve Show

	Hey, I haven't heard too many people talk about the two shows on 
the 30th and the 31st of this year.  I'm going to quickly tell you all on 
this net, I expect Buford, Clare, Alex, and all you other nuts to be 
there, that I am going to be there for both of the shows.  My good friend 
and I are driving up to Virginia and staying with a fraternity brother in 
Vienna.  i guess we are all staying at the Marriot on the 31st along with 
2000 others, is that correct?  Is everyone staying there?  Anyways, this 
is going out to all of you that plan on going there.  We are actually 
leaving on the 26th so that we will catch Widespread out there too.  I 
guess Pad's, the guy from Vienna, brother is snagging us some tickets.  
How great is this going to be.  All of the beer and food you can eat, 
sounds like it's going to be a fine time.  We are planning on stopping at 
our chapter at UVA, we are all DEKES, that is, if there is anything going 
on there.  If everyone plans on doing something after or before the show, 
get back to me, it could be the making of a fine plan.
				Saying Goodbye,
					Kyle


Posted By: jgraves@world.std.com
Time/Date: 6:21 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: God Street Wine...

I just wanted to echo the positive statement someone made about God Street 
Wine.  They're very fun live. The music is more straight Rock and Roll 
than Dave, but what they lack in complexity they usually make up in energy.

go see 'em if you get the chance.

If any body would like a copy of some GSW shows, I would be happy trade 
for some good quality DMB.  Let me know.

peace and good listening,
Jerm

 __________________________________________________________________________
\ Jeremy C. Graves    [jgraves@world.std.com]   Cambridge, Massachusetts  /
 \=======================================================================/
  \  \\\\\\|//////    \*** I walk through the hallways inside my mind **/
  /   |###   ###|      \******** I chase the backbeat from behind  *****\
  \  \|(O) | (O)|/      \*********** Me no are no nice guy **************/
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Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 6:42 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: AWARE

Sorry to waste space but,
     Just had a nice chat w/Shannon Worrell and spoke a little about 
Irving Plaza.  She didn't have much nice to say about the rowdy 
croud(nothing too bad either, though.)  I guess many people weren't 
expecting the mellowness(is that a word?) of 
the Shannon/Dave&Timm sets?  She seemed to think that a lot of people 
thought the whole band was going to be there.  Ah well, just rambling - 
I'm off to see Shannon/Vertical Horizon/The Grapes/Acoustic Junction - 
Wish me luck.   :)

                            :)  Toole

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     'We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience them.'
                            -Kahlil Gibran
---------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: CASERT66@snycorva.cortland.edu
Time/Date: 6:43 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: NYE

PLEASE! I know there is someone out there who has info about NYE or a set
list from last year.. did someone post it and I missed it?  If you who
are out there and hold the knowledge please spread the wealth..I need
something.. anything.. a little piece I got about the show this year
is that the whole $50 thing for the open bar is only open bar from
8:30-10!  What is that?   Well anyway- I  would appreciate any info.
of any type.   Thanks
Danielle


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu
Time/Date: 8:01 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Route 2 and CD release party

        Two things... One, what is the real name of the song "Route 2" that 
was played at Williams College, 12-11-93? My friend has the same tape and 
the song is labeled as "Walking"...

        Also... I'm looking to aquire the second set of the first C.D. 
release party 11/10/93... Let me know if you're interested...

                        Fred House


Posted By: bmcclung@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 8:40 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Re: my vote

On Thu, 17 Nov 1994, NO REASON NO TIME AND AN EXCELLENT VIEW wrote:

> Chalk up another vote for "grannies." The "oldies" (as opposed to newbies)
> can call themselves "great grannies."    
> 
Sorry, but I must disagree.  Jimi's is a much cooler name than Grannies.
All my hip friends think so.  So there.

Brian

		/*******************************\
		!  They went extinct from doing	!
		!  things that smart people	!
		!	don't do.		!
		!		--Phish		!
		\*******************************/


Posted By: pwchan@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 9:06 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Allgood

 For those who have been inquiring about this bluesy treat...
I have their live album entitled Kicking and Screaming.  It is really
quality and should be available at any store that carries college radio
type music, but probably not at the big chain stores (ie: Sam Goody).  One
point of interest on this particular recording is that it is 40 minutes
long with 5 songs.  Song 3 is called "Trilogy".  On it, Boyd Tinsley joins
the band for this 13 minute song.  NICE.  Just thought you might like to
know and check it out.  Later...

Paul Chandler


Posted By: stenhot@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 9:55 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: Allgood is awesome

Paul,

Good call on kickin and screamin.  If anyone is interested in some  
real good Allgood, pick up their independantly released Ride The Bee  
on Meccabitch records.   As with most good HORDE bands, they were  
ruined on their major label debut album Uncommon Goal.  For those who  
don't know Allgood, they were discovered about the same time as DMB.   
They played together on the HORDE last yeat and Kickin and Screamin  
proves once again that the only way to truly capture HORDE music is  
live.

Hot and Bothered,
Styx


Posted By: Lyn.Debevoise@williams.edu
Time/Date: 10:00 PM Thursday, November 17, 1994
Subject: nicknames...

Do we really need some catchy nickname to the point that we're going to 
force one upon ourselves?  Our generation tried hard to come up with one and 
now we're saddled with the silly "Generation X" (or "Gen X", if you're really 
hip).  Yeah - that's pretty cool.  I vote that we call ourselves the . 
	(that's a non-nickname, in case you didn't notice)
			--lyn


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 12:37 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Spooning

I know that spooning is a baffling concept to many of you out there in
minarets land, so I figured the best way to solve the problem is to
have a survey.  The person who gets closest to the correct answer (who
didn't know first hand) wins a copy of the "We Are Who We Are" show
from Ziggy's 7/3/93.  Same goes for the most creative answer, though
to win the most creative, it has to be more creative than my guess :-)

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 1:12 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Spooning

Susie Stowell(I think) won the accuracy prize...now get creative :-)
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 1:24 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re: Spooning

	Spooning - A process whereby a DMB fan without a dat or analog 
deck can record a bootleg.  All that is needed is a bit bucket, plus the 
prerequisite namesake, a spoon.  As the data-bits fall from waterfall de 
la Bagby, they are cought in the bit bucket for a short period of time, 
as they drain out the bottom and into a splitter, and the cereal/serial 
energy it fed into a digital or analog deck.  The "spooned" bits are 
collected, taken home, and then you take a _diluted_ solution of 
bit-resin and pure bits.  DO NOT bathe in pure bits, you will alternate 
colors corresponding to a cubic equation which references to the 
Pantone(r) color matching scheme, in the worst cases, limited to the 
pastels only.  Beware, spooning can be dangerous, so try it alone, so 
that not too many people will get hurt, and leave a good journal, so that 
future explorers can have their glory lessened by the fact that you made 
an independent yet redundant observation.  Classes in advanced spoonology 
will be held at the Center for Faberware Production in the Fall, sign up now.
					Prof. ERic Lippe M.D.
					Director of Silverware relations 
					and anti-trust campaigns	

On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, Daniel Blanchat wrote:

> I know that spooning is a baffling concept to many of you out there in
> minarets land, so I figured the best way to solve the problem is to
> have a survey.  The person who gets closest to the correct answer (who
> didn't know first hand) wins a copy of the "We Are Who We Are" show
> from Ziggy's 7/3/93.  Same goes for the most creative answer, though
> to win the most creative, it has to be more creative than my guess :-)
> 
> Dan
> -- 
> Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
> djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
> Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me
>


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 1:25 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Spooning

I believe that the practice of spooning began with the
Aborigines when the British began to populate Australia.  Not
knowing what utensils were for, they had no idea what the silly
looking things with the curved end were.  Ultimately they
decided that they were some sort of sign from the gods.  They
began to line up all of the spoons that they could find with
the sun.  The reflection of the light caused the spoons to
resonate at their natural frequency when they began to cause
the surrounding areas to vibrate.  This vibration continues on
for many years, passing one time through the Tacoma Narrows,
causing the collapse of a bridge.  Today, this idea is used for
many things, including the baking of pork at its optimal
temperature so that it is very hot and wet and also it is used
as the voice of Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey in some
videos, causing those ear-drum shattering notes.

Kris Philippe
-- 
This is me


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 1:39 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: are you still there or have you moved away?

uh.. lessee.
no granny shit.
or no sattellite shit.
or no.. uh.. whatever the other one thing is.

i think we shoudl all be spooners. 
that's what well call ourselves. and if not.. then the right name will 
come to us whe nwe least expect it and when we need it most. 

besides.. anyone remember the jul '93 show where spoonman was in the 
floodzone audience? anyone besides rick remember this? maybe it was the 
thanksgiving show. hm... my memory fails me... as does much else.. 
(tumultuous giggles) hee hee. i even spelled that wrong.. heeheeee

this message has been brought ot you by hugs for rick, marlboros, a 
grover from sesame street cuddling girl, and lots and lots of love...

'sign me to sleep sing me to sleep, and then leave me alone....dont' try to 
wake me in the morning cause i will be gone... there is a bnother world.. 
ther eis a better world.. ther must be....'

tell the kids to eat their peanut butter and marshmallow sandwiches and 
to catch snowflakes on their eyelashes... oh.. and make sure you give 
them a hug for me.... i love them dearly...

freaky nutty clare with a bad headache needing a brainrub desprately.. oh 
passal where are your brainrub's when i need them most? 

*******************************************************************************
                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: DSCHMITT@utkvx.utk.edu
Time/Date: 1:51 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: spoons, man!

Spooning is an neolithic Japanese ritual which involves the removal of the
genitals of the first born male of every family with a long-handled blunt
scooping object. The male is then paraded through the city while every
female virgin of the tribe pummels him with oversized ladles while chanting
"So why would you care to get out of this place?" The male is then returned
to his dorm room where he is bound and forced to listen to his comp
terminal beep with incoming e-mail while he cannot responDougd. 

This is the definition I found in my encyclopedia.


Posted By: goldberg@rochgte.fidonet.org
Time/Date: 2:23 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: T-shirt idea...

Hey all, 

The T-shirt idea is great!  It seems that Dave encourages that kind of
stuff.  If a Tee is ever made, and if it rocks, then Dave might "steal"
it and use it in his catalog.  Doesn't it say in there someplace that
one of the shirts was adapted from artwork by a fan?

                                               Seth :)

P.S. Hey Greg, where the hell are you?


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:30 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: NYE and other tidbits....

First, for whoever asked, last NYEve setlist...

Set I Satellite, Song that J likes, 1 sweet world, Tripping Billies, 
Granny, Lie in our Graves, #36, What Would U Say, 

Set II Ants, Dancing Nancies, Minarets, Jimi THANG!, Seek Up, Pay 4 What 
U Get, true reflections, Watchtower, recently

Encore: Xmas song , Warehouse

I haven't listened to all of the show yet, but from what I hear from 
people there and the first few songs, its nothing incredible. Of course 
now I have been told by Kyle that I must attend, so who knows, I just 
need to scrounge up 52.50. Of course I probably won't be able to take 
advantage of the bar unless I stay at the hotel, which means I need 
another ton of money, lets start a pool for the Net Room, bring your 
e-mail address for entry..hehehe

Number 2)while Peter's departure, which I hear was caused cuz he got 
bought a house, made the band tightened up a bit, nothing is more amazing 
than the previously mentioned 11-17-92 Cry Freedom with just Dave and 
him. For a good Peter tape, check out 12-2-92 flood Zone. Its got a 
killer Lover and the old fast One Sweet World. Also a nice 
minarets->bluewater and Dancing Nancie->Warehouse, which he just recently 
brought back...

3)T-shirts sound like a KILLER idea. some of the new dave stuff is, well, 
i'll say it, kinda strange looking. Of course the tobaggan "Stefan style" 
hat is a must. We could also use this t-shirt as a way of meeting each 
other. Like "I'll be wearing the netter shirt and the blue hat at the 
sound board" If we wanted to get really creative, we could have people 
scan their artwork and send it to the ftp site, if this is possible (ben 
tanen whats the word) I give it a hearty thumbs up. 




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Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:39 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re: Spooning

On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, William Lippe wrote:
> an independent yet redundant observation.  Classes in advanced spoonology 
> will be held at the Center for Faberware Production in the Fall, sign up now.
> 					Prof. ERic Lippe M.D.
> 					Director of Silverware relations 
> 					and anti-trust campaigns	

and yunno what?
i get to teach it. 
in the fall semesters i also teach 
spooning; the art of love
class signups will be taken after thanksgiving break and all schedules 
will be structured so that you have this class by graduation.

'i can't quit you babe.. but i'm gonna have to put you down for a while...'
i know i'm not talking to my marl.light, now.. no way....

prof. c.e.clifford, PhD, MD, spoon-mistress.


*******************************************************************************
                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 3:45 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Spoon Definition

I was informed that Susie was improperly informed of the answer, so the
contest for the actual definition for spooning is still open...
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: croutons@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 7:15 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Dec. 1/4 info?

Hello all,

I know Jeff posted this question earlier, then reposted, but since I 
haven't talked to him (how's it going Jeff?) or seen any replies, I'm 
going to ask. Does anyone know of ticket info for the Dec. 1 Santa Cruz 
or Dec. 4 S.F. shows? 

Cheers,
Justin

| "..old enough to know what's right, but young enough   |       Roweman
|  not to choose it...noble enough to win the world, but |   croutons@leland.
|  weak enough to lose it"                               |     stanford.edu
|                                        -Rush           |On a midnight radio..


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SATELITE@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU
Time/Date: 8:48 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Dave in Atlanta

One last time, for those of you interested.   The Dave show is
scheduled for Atlanta at the Fox on Dec. 27.  Ticket go on sale
tomorrow at 12:00 and are either  $16.50 or $17.50 plus certian
Ticketbastard charges.  I did not mention this before, but an
awesome band, From Good Homes is opening and I strongly suggest
that you get there early to see them.  I will see ya'll there.
Geoffrey


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 10:27 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: New Ideas

    Class Minarets::BandFans()
    Begin
        array[1..infinity]...

oh sorry, wrong computer......


Good to see other Davidsonians on here!

The Rush Fanzine recently did a  t-shirt idea, and it took off. The
digest is called The National Midnight Star and it had a star on the
pocket and a couple of quotes on the shirt's back and pocket.....

Idea:  Pocket on a <insert color here> tee[preferably beefy-t or
something good] has a minaret, a very ornate one from somewhere. on
the back there is some artwork of a guy in the top screaming from the
minaret and below is the inscription: "Screaming from the minarets"
and put the address of the listproc?  This might be a problem though
if we have too many people new to the idea of a mailing list, so we
could leave out the address if needed.

It would help if we determined the name of our fans, like we did
bagbies.  I personally don't have a preference, although, since my
name is William, I do like the name :"Billies." ;)

Peace, and good luck with those Davie County Stormtroopers in the
Kangaroo court they run there, Buford!

Will

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RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
    "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies?
   ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set you
        free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  "Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but I, I'll work it out, and then I, 
           look up at the sky"-Dave Matthews Band:Dancing Nancies
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu
Time/Date: 10:58 AM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 357

If anyone has any form of tapes concerning the Boyde Tinsley Band,
can you please get in touch with me to set up a trade of some
sort..Thanx alot.

        Searching for my lost shaker of salt.........TROY


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu
Time/Date: 12:19 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: W H Y L A B E L Y O U R S E L F ?

Why do all of you insist on coming up with all of these labels for
yourselves? I think it is so ridiculous, and one of the main reasons why I
started reading more on this net then phish net.  Guppies, Groupers,
Phishwipes, Satellites, Grannies, Billies, Nancies?   What the fuck?
I'm sorry, but I've been under this hippie/deadhead label for too long, and
I'm not about to give myself one.  I love the Dave Matthews Band and it's
practically all I listen to simply because his songs seem to apply directly
to my life.  Why don't we take that for what it is and not try and label it
                        thank you
                           - bruce
            "I'd like to show you what's inside"


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 12:46 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: T-Shirt Idea

Hey guys,
        For T-shirt ideas I am working on a design that has 5 rows of ants 
and 5 ants per row.  The ants would all be cartoon ants that look alike and 
are marching.  You wouldn't be able to tell them apart,  kind of like the 
song,  "All the little ants are marching . . . They all do it the same way." 
 But in each row,  one of the ants would be going nuts,  he would represent 
a band member.  So far I've done the first row and I have the third ant,  
dancing and playing a guitar.  In each of the consecutive 5 rows,  an ant 
would be,  for instance,  playing the fiddle with his leg up in the air like 
Boyd when he starts getting into it.  You get the idea,  it should be sweet. 
 To link the shirt to the net,  the last ant is going to look just like all 
the rest,  but he will be smiling and holding an envelope in his left hand,  
to represent e-mail.  Tell me what you think?
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: stuff

Hey y'all,
	I just read Bruce's message and I agree that we shouldn't feel
compelled to label ourselves, but I also see nothing wrong with us netters
wanting to have a collective name that we can use to identify ourselves. The
unity amongst this band's followers is stronger than most, and as long as we
come up with our own name and use it voluntarily then there's nothing wrong
with it. To the person who wrote about Gen X, that was a title given TO us by
the media, it was taken from the title of a book about our generation. It was
not something we gave to ourselves. Well, there seems to be a line for this
particular pulpit, so I best be going. Clare, a Smiths fan too? Bestill my
beating heart!

"Screaming from the Berry Banks!!"
				-Dave
"Fuck the MAN!"
	-e:
							Kev :-Q

As will always be the case, smoking is state sanctioned in my messages


Posted By: junketw@mallard.duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 1:18 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Atlanta show roadtrip!!!

Hey all,
	Is anyone going from Charlotte NC to Atalnta for the show on the 
27th, or passing through Charlotte en-route to Atlanta on 85? If so I 
want to arrange some sort of road trip so we can all go down there 
together, as a whole, as one, as Minarets, as those who appreciate and
 love DMB's music and words.  Sorry got a little carried away there for a 
second. It will be quite a trip! 
			Anyone game????????

PS.
	Last night was the AWARE concert I posted about earlier and it was
fucking awesome! Shannon Worrell was very cooool and Acoustic Junction 
was un-fucking-believable with their incedibly intense jams.  The Grapes 
closed the show nicely with long electric guitar jams. Sorry to those who 
wanted a tape, no tapers were present.
						    (-) (-)
				KEEP ON SMILIN'    
						  \         /
						   \       /
						    \-----/
				-TOM


Posted By: jag1@cornell.edu
Time/Date: 2:05 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re:God Street Wine

Am I the only one who thinks GSW is horrible?  I've seen them five times,
and come away less impressed each time I see them.  If you are considering
seeing them, I would suggest saving your money.  Certainly do not buy their
horrible CD ($1.99 Romances).  If you need something new, get Rusted Root
instead.

"Well we couldn't all be cowboys
so some of us are clowns."
-Adam Duritz


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 2:14 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: name calling

I don't want us old gaurd dave fans to resort to the nonsense that is 
naming our following - It's funny how much "Grannies" or "Minarets" sounds 
like "Trekers".  I'm just a dave fan okay.

ps - the new star trek movie comes out tonite - for all you grannies...

gee ohmy

sean


                -----------------------------------------
          "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 2:16 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re:God Street Wine

> Am I the only one who thinks GSW is horrible?  I've seen them five times,
> and come away less impressed each time I see them.  If you are considering
> seeing them, I would suggest saving your money.  Certainly do not buy their
> horrible CD ($1.99 Romances).  If you need something new, get Rusted Root
> instead.

Actually, I got $1.99 Romances and I didn't think it was that good either. I've
never seen them live so I can't make a judgement about that, but from the
very first song on their CD, "Princess Henrietta" (which I thought was not only
a terrible first song on a CD, but was a real turn off), I wasn't impressed.
I'm returning the CD.

Matt Thompson


Posted By: JOSANDS@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 2:26 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 357

i just want to sat that i personally agravated with the Dave Matthews Band because
I tried five seperate times to 
aet up an interview and they kept making promises and dissin me, I hope that 
the band has not gotten to be for their boots.  I have interviewed Dave once buty I 
wanted to do an album review with quotes and they failed to comee through
i hope that things return to normal.

There will be a music vidoe for what would you say, MTV watch out


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 2:31 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: The T-Shirt dilema!!!!

What's up?
        There's been a small response to the Ants t-shirt idea,  but I want 
to wait before we do anything to hear some other ideas.  To clarify though,  
the shirt will hopefully symbolize uniqueness,  a desire to be free to do 
whatever you so desire to do.  I am not designing the T-shirt for the sole 
purpose that the song is so popular.  It is meant more as symbol of the band 
and it's fans.  I know all the jerks at the shows love Ants,  but they won't 
be able to get the shirt,  and they are symbolized on the shirt as all the 
little mindless Ants that Get In Line,  so whatever the case we need more 
ideas for T-shirts,  and we need more response.  So if you like the idea,  
please e-mail personally so as not to take up bandwith and I will 
occasionally inform everyone as to how the response is going,  but let's 
hear some other good ideas!  Oh yeah and whoever originally inspired me to 
design the shirt and who was organizing this deal,  please email me it's 
important!!!!!!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: EIQ9DXB@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Time/Date: 2:54 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: somebody please help me

i'm losin it here
i've sent 5 plus messages to

listproc@moose.uvm.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE or UNSUB MINARETS in the message
body, JUST LIKE IT SAID IN THE message i got when i subscribed

and i'm still getting several messages a minute debating what y'all
want to dub yourselves

PLEASE GET ME OFF THIS LIST, SOMEHOW.

J Crothers, are you out there?

thank you,

G


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 3:10 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: MTV?

Is it true what I just read? A DMB video for "what would you say?"? Can it be
possible that our favorite home-town-boy-makes-good will be the next "Buzz
Clip"? Well, as long as I don't start seeing stores in the mall selling
t-shirts with Dave's face airbrushed on them, I'll be fine. Remember,
airbrushing was invented so that Elvis, unicorns, and rainbows would forever
hang on the walls of Longwood/Randolph-Macon dorm rooms. (HeHe, I'll hear it
for that one)  But don't fret, matbe this will serve to enlarge Dave's
following, not bring down the quality of his fans. Personally, I'm just curious
as to how they'll do this, Concert footage, or cheesy lipsync.  Until the next
time I feel like putting of work, I remain
							Kev :-Q

Coming up next: a forty song block of uninterupted music. We'll start off with
"Satellite", only on Virginia's hit music station: Z104!!
						-My Nightmare

"When you gonna wake up? When you gonna take some action? When you gonna get
up? When you gonna make it better?" -e:

"This song's about Patrick's Jimi Thing"
					-Dave

For today only, only Clarebear will be allowed to enjoy a tasty Marlboro light
in my message. Smoke up baby!


Posted By: Lyn.Debevoise@williams.edu
Time/Date: 3:38 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: the evil media

***NOTE: If you're not being oppressed by THE MAN, don't bother reading this.

On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, shaft wrote:

> To the person who wrote about Gen X, that was a title given TO us by
> the media, it was taken from the title of a book about our generation. It was
> not something we gave to ourselves. 

	ok, so perhaps our generation didn't hold a big convention where 
nicknames were bandied about, after which we held a democratic vote on 
what to call ourselves.  But while you're being technical, I might add that 
at the time the book came out many people (including ones not associated 
with the evil mainstream media) were decrying the fact that they had no 
nifty nickname for our generation - the first in over a hundred years to 
not have one.  So some guy decided he'd take the initiative, not unlike 
some people on this net are doing now, and give our (and his) generation 
a nickname of his own making.
	Interestingly enough, no one complained about the "Gen X" label until 
parts of the mainstream media (such as the venerable Rolling Stone and MTV) 
started blaming the rest of the media for forcing it upon us.  But then, 
these media exist solely because they have managed to convince people 
that they are not the "establishment" which they so clearly are.  
	In short, if you blame the media for forcing "Gen X" on us, you 
have fallen to the Reality Bites Paradox: In trying to be "alternative" by 
seeking out "alternative" news sources, you latched onto what was really 
the mainstream media in disguise (similar to how Reality Bites was a major 
studio motion picture pretending to be of and for our generation).  How 
ironic.  Once again, I claim that labelling is both distasteful and 
unnecessary. 
					--lyn


Posted By: CEMEYER@main.rmwc.edu
Time/Date: 3:48 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re:dave on the charts

Paul,
  I haven't checked my email in a couple of days, so you probably have 
gotten responses to your post on Dave in Rolling Stone already. But just 
in case you haven't, the issue in question is the newest one with Brad 
Pitt on the cover. They are #1 on the Alt. charts w/ a picture of the 
album cover next to it. I hope this helps! Take it easy...
                                          Carrie


Posted By: gottlieb@bu4090.barry.edu
Time/Date: 3:53 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Labels

If we didn't have labels how would we tell which can was chicken
soup and which one was minestrone?

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL ON THE NET!!

Adam
(I love this place!)


Posted By: PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 3:54 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: odds and ends

Just a few comments:
	To the person who asked about the bar on NYE:  my ticket says from
8:30-10:00 the bar serves beer and wine only (+appetizers) and then from
10:00 (actually, it may be 10:30) to 1:30 there will be a full bar!  The 
only thing we don't get is real food, so go crazy on the appetizers.
	The t-shirt idea is a good one...the t-shirts they sell in the catalog
and at shows are getting too commonplace...so many people have that Dancing
Nancies t-shirt
	The idea behind "grannies" is good, but the word in and of itself 
doesn't seem to have the right connotations.  So far all of our options have
been song titles (Jimi's, Billies, Nancies)- how about if we look just a bit
deeper and pull something from the lyrics.  Just a suggestion, I really don't
find it necessary to have a collective name- the music and our actions should
be enough to define a DMB fan, not a stereotypical name like 'deadheads'.  To
me, that's what it's all about- freedom/diversity...not grouping.  Maybe that's
a bit too serious, because the name search is all in good fun, but my $.02
just came out unintentionally.  Sorry.  Anyway, like I was saying at first, 
how about some name ideas from the lyrics?  anyone  Perhaps some
of the things we could have been?  Hanis (pronounced hah-nees)...okay, this
isn't as easy as it sounded...oh, well, guess I wasn't much help.

Greg

Sometimes it's easy to be myself
Sometimes I find it's better to be somebody else-
 

DM


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:06 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: youve got me thinkin

about this lable stuff
i dont have an opinion on what we should be called if anything at all
but i will say 
that very often i am asked "are you a deadhead?" "are you a phishead" 
"are you a parrot head?"

and i dont know what to respond ..because, sure i would love to take a 
semester or 2 off and tour the dead and phish and if buffett is in a 3 
hour drive, sure ill do my best to be there and dance .. and sure i fly 
to california to catch the dead there .. and sure ill drive 5 hours to 
hear dave even though i caught him 2 days before at home  and ill drive 
for lots of other music too

but ii hesitate when answering those questions because i feel like the 
bring to mind a certain image, one of style?? life style? dress style?? 
that i am not sure i can be comfortably boxed into

but if you are meaning to find a name for a fan that is proud of the fact 
that music brings all  sorts of different people together for the sake of 
having a good time to some groovy tunes ..but not one that has any 
personality limitationson it..well then ill be proud to say i am one
till then , ill be a DREAMER
catherine


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 4:24 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re: Spooning

O.K. this goes out to Dan and allthe rest of the netters out there.  
Spooning has been a subject on this net ever since I have been a member 
of it.  First and foremost, I have tried to settle the issue a long itme 
ago by telling everyone what it was but since there are so many more 
people talking about it now than ever before I will inform you all again. 
I think it was Clare who started the whole thing, and I would guess she 
has some kind of idea what it is, but if she didn't and just had heard 
the phrase, I will again, tell everyone.  
	Def:   Spooning, a verb, it means to lay next to someone, hopefully
	       a member of the opposite sex, with your back puzzled(the 
	       key word) into their front side.  Or vise versa, with your
	       front side pussled into their back.  I guess it is a uniform
   	       pattern of snuggling (although I hate that word) with 
  	       someone.  
I had first heard of this word on the Island of Nantucket, and Dave if 
you are out there, Ross did it with Don and ended up all messy.  It was
kinda used as much as the word prepping' (that's a word for another 
time).  Anyways, I hope this clears things up with everyone.  It isn't 
really a creative answer but it is correct.  I hope that the person 
giving out that Ziggy's tape(Dan) thinks so too,

			Saying Goodbye,
				Kyle


Posted By: car3@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 4:39 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: nameless, wonderless

in my opinion there should be no additional nickname needed.  we're all 
fans of dave, and we're all on the minarets net, so just leave it at 
that.  
					the magus
"tommorrow, what a day it was."
	-clive barker-
"did they have games at gangster parties."
	-neil gaiman-


Posted By: lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
Time/Date: 4:58 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: spoon me 'round

forged from a silver dubloon
the tool used under a full moon
(to harvest many a prune)
at the Blue Water Farm of the Baboon 

ie. a spoon
 
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< Joe & Laura ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <><


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 5:07 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re:God Street Wine

> 
> Am I the only one who thinks GSW is horrible?  I've seen them five times,
> and come away less impressed each time I see them.  If you are considering
> seeing them, I would suggest saving your money.  Certainly do not buy their
> horrible CD ($1.99 Romances).  If you need something new, get Rusted Root
> instead.
> 
Well personally I think REM is annoying as hell.  But i'm not going 
around the net saying they suck everytime someone mentions them (which 
i've seen more of then people talking about GSW).  I got into GSW and a 
lot of other bands through nets like this.  So how about we keep it like 
that if you want to thhrow your opinion in please do so but lets not have 
all the bull shit we had before with GSW.  And lets keep the new bands 
rolling in (and if you guys could send me addresses for the HORDE address 
list i'd be appreciative).  cya all and have fun

matt
who's finding he likes this Holy Rollers album more and more every time 
hee hears it

ps  for all you radford people I noticed a kid in one of my classes to 
fay reading a tartan article on the band i haven't had a chance to get a 
copy though have fun and cya all.

pps  if any one's going to GSW tommorow night and is willing to pick me 
up in radford please let me know.


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 5:35 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: DMB on MTV

Just the little blip on last weeks 'week in rock' scared me. I got the 
'friend of a friend of a friend' story that this person who works at Mtv, 
and when he asked to get a copy of the show (which was filmed in its 
entirety) that they showed clips from (somewhere in GA I think) and they 
laughed at him and asked if he really liked his job...
DMB on video would be cool. Set up a Super 8 deck and camera by the 
boards maybe...
Just a point to ponder....

'peter falk...peter falk rules' -Dave M.

Dave


Posted By: mmfitzpa@mailbox.syr.edu
Time/Date: 6:08 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: readme

Hey!  Does anyone know who Anne might be?  "In memory of Anne" on UNDER 
THE TABLE.....  

"Dave?...Dave's not here, man" H.T.

"The day is gone I'm on my back, staring up at the ceiling.  I take a 
drink sit back relax, smoke my mind make me feel better for a small time."


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 9:23 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Uuuuh, I don't think so

Lyn,
	I rarely watch MTV, I don't read Rolling Stone, I've never seen Reality
Bites, I make no effort to be "alternative". I have been techinical, but your
making assumptions. Which of the two is based on fact? Just thought I'd be
"technical" and point this out.
						Always pissing somebody off,
							Kev :-Q

"Please drink heavily at the bar"
			-Dave

As per usual, for your (and my) convenience smoking IS allowed in my messages


Posted By: sfrazier
Time/Date: 9:44 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: This Bagby store is now closed

Dear Holiday Shoppers,
	The Bagby offer on the Lexington 11/9/94 show is now officially 
closed. I got about 60 responses...two tapes each...one month break...one 
tape deck...WOW, I thought Santa was busy.:) I'm going to try to do as many 
as I can but with 60 people, I may still be doing this next Christmas! To 
everyone who wrote to me, I'll get back to you, hopefully before 
Thanksgiving. I'm going to see how many people are at the same schools 
and see if you can make copies. This will make it easier on me and you 
will get a chance to meet some fellow netters. :-)  So...just give me 
some time and you'll definitely hear back from me. I hope to get a copy 
out to all of you. Thanks. 

Scott 
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!


Posted By: tos@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 10:56 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Carbon12!

Anybody from duke catch carbon12 - wow is all I can say.

			 - JEAN

	"After everything I've done I hate myself for what I've become"

				-Trent Reznor-
				     nin


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 11:25 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Re: T-Shirt Idea

On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, Scott Miller wrote:

> Hey guys,
>         For T-shirt ideas I am working on a design that has 5 rows of ants 
> and 5 ants per row.  The ants would all be cartoon ants that look alike and 
> are marching.  You wouldn't be able to tell them apart,  kind of like the 
> song,  "All the little ants are marching . . . They all do it the same way." 
>  But in each row,  one of the ants would be going nuts,  he would represent 
> a band member.  So far I've done the first row and I have the third ant,  
> dancing and playing a guitar.  In each of the consecutive 5 rows,  an ant 
> would be,  for instance,  playing the fiddle with his leg up in the air like 
> Boyd when he starts getting into it.  You get the idea,  it should be sweet. 
>  To link the shirt to the net,  the last ant is going to look just like all 
> the rest,  but he will be smiling and holding an envelope in his left hand,  
> to represent e-mail.  Tell me what you think?
> Scott Miller-
> Virginia Tech
> 529 Shanks Hall
> Blacksburg,  VA 24060
> sctm@vt.edu
> "Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
>      - Dave Matthews
> 
> 

Personally, I like the idea a lot, but the envelope idea seems a little 
bit cheezy (no offense to anyone).  Maybe this is because most of us are
--DMB fans who just happen to have e-mail--
	      -rather than-
--e-mail users who just happen to like the DMB--
Do we really need to represent e-mail on the shirt?  It could just be a 
Minarets shirt because only we have access to it.  Maybe the last Ant 
could be just going crazy just dancin' and groovin' (kind of like us).  I 
know that if I were listening to and watching the DMB right now live, I 
wouldn't be worrying about e-mail.

		Just my few pesos,
		        M A L A C H I


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 11:48 PM Friday, November 18, 1994
Subject: Idunno

Hey ya'll,

If you ever feel like talking, your mom misses you.

Much Grass,
Shug


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu
Time/Date: 1:05 AM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: The count so far.

	We now have 21 votes for the ants tee shirt and 1 very strong against,  
this 1 could count as 2 maybee,  seeing the sincerity and stature of the 
respondant.  Ideas fro modifications that you guys have sent are as follows.
	1)basically,  most people said trash the last ant that would be holding the 
letter to represent us.
	2)Maybe have the last ant just going nuts dancing.
	3)Try to throw in a minaret or 2 into the design.
	I'll be gone for a whole week,  I wonder if I'll have e-mail in the triple 
digits when I get back,  hmmmm?  But feel free to keep submitting votes to 
me personally,  and if you have some good ideas you can send them to me or 
to everyone?
	When I get back,  I should have the design done and I'll scan it and figure 
out how to upload it.  I will try to get a professional,  or at least a 
really talented art major.  My drawings are just rough sketches.  I have 
about 3 people working on it and we will see what happens!  WE HEAR AT 
MILLER T-SHIRTS,  INC.,  STRIVE FOR PERFECTION!  Isn't that a good slogan?  
Wow it's late!  I think I discovered why so many weird messages come across 
this net,  we all stay up pretty darn late!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: JONICOTRA@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Time/Date: 3:30 AM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: T-shirt Design

I like it.... i agree with the dissenters, perhaps instead of an ant holding
a piece of mail, perhaps you could have the ant that reprents us screaming
from a minaret... just an idea.....

josh


Posted By: BugBaraff@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:08 AM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: DMB in D.C. Dec. 30th?

Discussion seems to have ceased regarding a possible D.M.B. show on December
30th in Washington, D.C.  If anyone has any details about this, please let me
know via email.  Is it possible that someone was confused with the God Street
Wine show scheduled that same evening, also in D.C.?  Any info would be
greatly appreciated.  If anyone knows that it's definitely not happening, I'd
like to know that too. 

Thanks,
Aaron.


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 4:48 AM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Dave In Colorado (and MTV)

 Okay, here's the midstream report on DMB in Colorado:

Thursday, Nov. 17 All Ages
e: opened, got the crowd pretty warmed up

DMB - one sweet set,
Seek Up
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Song Jane Likes
Satellite
What Would You Say
Jimi Thing
Cry Freedom Cry
Rhyme and Reason
Get In Line
Typical Situation
Tripping Billies
Recently
#36
Ants Marching
enc: Christmas song
???? - not a clue, cool song though - thought it was the instrumental I've
been reading about, but Dave got around to singing - not that I could
understand a single word (yea, I like a challenge)  Five note riff, group
of two, group of three, thats the best description I can give right now
Halloween

November 18 9:00 AM - 8:00 P.M.

one sweet video shoot

setlist:
What Would You Say
What Would You Say
What Would You Say
What Would You Say
What Would You Say
..
..
. (you get the idea)
What Would You Say
??? Another one that I don't know - and haven't heard mentioned, similar
groove to #36 lasted about 15 min.  But don't have it on tape because they
weren't allowing anyone to tape the video shoot.  
True Reflections (I think dave was really tired of singing)

So here's the scoop:  They announced at the Thurs. night show that they
were going to shoot a video, and invited everyone down to play the part of
the audience (they recognized our innate acting abilities)  A girl up front
yells, "No, don't do it!" Dave laughs and points her out - "This girls
freaking out over here.  I don't want y'all to think we're selling out,
it's going to be a live thing, because that's what we do best."

So the line forms at 1:00 for a scheduled 3:00 shoot, by 4:15 everyone is
freezing to death outside and the line has become a mob (nothing attracts a
crowd like a crowd)  So they hand out tickets to like 120 people and tell
us to come back around 5:00.  Actually they start audience footage at about
4:30 and go until 8:00.  We dance and dance, even the girl who screamed
"Don't do it" was there - if you can't beat'em dance with 'em.  The song
was tracked about 15 -20 times with the version on the CD.  

I was under the impression it was going to be a live, in concert type
video, but a girl I talked with inside, who claims to be friends with the
band (questionable claim, but we did see her walking around with LeRoi)
says that they are doing some really ecletic, abstract type of pop-art
concept video, of which the live footage would play a small part.  She was
saying things like painted faces, bizzare lenses, animation, similar to
what the talking heads might have pulled out.  Evidently they hired a big
production team from L.A. to come tape the footage.  The truth is, we won't
know what it's going to be like until we see it (keep an eye out for the
back of my head - it seems destined for fame).

Unbelievably, after a full day of playing (well, doing a lot of standing
around waiting for lights to be moved, and cameras re-positioned) they
still managed to put on a helluva show.  

November 18, 10:00

set I - continuation of the video shoot with full audience
Best of What's Around
What Would You Say
Satellite
Rhyme and Reason
Jimi Thing
What Would You Say
 
(there may be one other that I'm forgetting, but it wasn't anything
earthshaking or rare)

set II - Starts with video lighting (very bright, very annoying after being
in it all day, switches back to the "nighttime show" from the "kitchen
atmosphere" as described by Dave.  He was refering to all the flourescent
bulbs around the floor of the stage)

(I didn't tape tonight or write down the setlist but, here's an idea)
Intro-> OSW
Nancies -> Warehouse
Say Goodbye
#36
Minarets
Jane
True Reflections
Typical Sit.
Billies
(of course the order is as close to alphabetical as it is to actual)

enc: X-mas song again ('tis the season)
Watchtower
Ants 

I could give more of a description of the video thing and the show, but I'm
pooped, and your eyes are probably pooped from reading all my B.S.

Goodnight,
Jason


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 2:12 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Song title?

To all:

What is the name of the song that starts w/ these lyrics...?
"Seven tumbling oceans surround the ground that I dance upon..."
'People People' or 'One We' is my guess.
Kyle is not allowed to answer this...ha
Any responce welcome...

Dave


Posted By: drcraver@mailbox.syr.edu
Time/Date: 2:18 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: welcome and thanx

Meaghan, welcome to the group, Who's Anne?

TJPalvino, Got the tape, I've found heaven, Thanx.

Peace'n'groove, Dan


Posted By: budke@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 2:18 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Ominous Seapods Dates

Please not that the Nov 26th show is not at AKA in NYC, but at
Wetlands.

Ominous Seapods Dates as of 11/19/94

Saturday, November 19th, The Waterhole, Saranac Lake NY
    	43 Main St  18+

Friday, November 25th, Bogie's Albany NY 21+

Saturday, November 26th, Wetlands, NYC w/ Moe

Wednesday, November 30th, Old Town Ale House, Ft Collins CO 21+

Thursday, December 1st, Garton's, Vail CO w/ Cowboy Mouth 21+

Friday, December 2nd, The Inferno, Steamboat Springs CO

Saturday, December 3rd, The Inferno, Steamboat Springs CO

Tuesday, December 6th, The Inferno, Steamboat Springs CO

Wednesday, December 7th, The Pickle Barrel, Ft Collins CO
    	8pm (303)848-0235 18+

Thursday, December 8th, Fly Me to the Moon, Telluride CO
    	(303)728-6640

Friday, December 9th, EJ Coffee & Tea Co. Albuquerque NM
    	(505)268-2233 18+

Sunday, December 11th, Fox Theater, Boulder CO 
    	(303)447-0095  18+

Monday, December 12th, Rack-N-Roll, Colorado Springs CO
    	(719)444-0144

Tuesday, December 13th, Rack-N-Roll, Colorado Springs CO
        (719)444-0144

Saturday, December 17th, The Sink, Boulder CO (303)444-SINK 18+

Monday, December 19th, Cassidy's, Avon CO (303)949-9449

Thursday, December 22nd, The Docksider, Erie PA  (814)454-9700

Friday, December 23rd, The Fore 'n Aft, White Plains NY
    	(914)761-2417

Saturday, Decemebr 31st, Valentine's, Albany NY w/ Moon Boot Lover
    	(518)432-6572

Sat, Wed, Thur, Fri Dec. 10, 14, 15 & 16 TBA

For booking and Hot Line, call (518)489-7466

This is their first CO trip, so make them feel welcome! :)

-- 
budke@netspace.org    	    	    Union College Box 241
V:(518)393-8400  	    	    Schenectady NY  12308
Fax:(518)393-8497
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 3:09 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Dave Shirt

Hello, fellow Minarets,
        I really like this idea.    I would put up money for this, but I
would also like to see it in a gif, if possible?    Can you scan the design
when it's done?    You would have MANY orders, I'm sure...


>Hey guys,
>        For T-shirt ideas I am working on a design that has 5 rows of ants
and 5 ants per row.  The ants would all be cartoon ants that look alike and
are marching.  You wouldn't be able to tell them apart,  kind of like the
song,  "All the little ants are marching . . . They all do it the same way."
 But in each row,  one of the ants would be going nuts,  he would represent
a band member.  So far I've done the first row and I have the third ant,
dancing and playing a guitar.  In each of the consecutive 5 rows,  an ant
would be,  for instance,  playing the fiddle with his leg up in the air like
Boyd when he starts getting into it.  You get the idea,  it should be sweet.
 To link the shirt to the net,  the last ant is going to look just like all
the rest,  but he will be smiling and holding an envelope in his left hand,
to represent e-mail.  Tell me what you think?
Scott Miller-

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you remember two things...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@sccs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SREILI31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Time/Date: 4:19 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: undigest

Can I please have my mail undigested? I have a sneaky suspicion that many
good offers by several kind-hearted individuals are passing me by because
they are delayed in order to be digested. Thanx.

Steve
sreili31@maine.maine.edu


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SREILI31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Time/Date: 4:27 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Spoonin'

I lost the address of whoever this was supposed to go to, so I'm posting
it here. I first heard about "spooning" this summer from a friend of mine,
although it was something I had practiced before I knew the technical
name. Spooning is, I believe, when you lie down (in a bed, on a floor,
in a field) with another individual--perhaps opposite sex, but I assume
it holds true for the same sex--with the back of their body notched into
the front of yours, and once this position is attained, you don't ever
want to get up. I'm not sure if this definition has anything to do with
DMB, but it's the one I'm familiar with.

Steve
sreili31@maine.maine.edu


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SREILI31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Time/Date: 4:40 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Needed Songs

Somehow I acquired a list of all the DMB songs that exist/have been
played, although I'm not sure how current it is. Anyway, it would
appear that there are still three songs I have not heard: Any Noise/
Anti-noise; Drive In, Drive Out; and People, People. Is anyone willing
to copy/trade tapes so I can here these? I haven't heard a Dave song
yet that I haven't liked, and most of my favorites don't appear on the
released stuff.

Steve
sreili31@maine.maine.edu


Posted By: scooter@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 5:35 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: uva songs MIA!

To the stud who sent me the uva show,

			     	HELP!

I was just listening to it and the b side is blank (jimi thing and on...)  How
sad am I?  If anyone in the chicago\northwestern area has it also, it may be
easier to fix than having to send it back to lexington.  Please help, my
entire house has been awaiting its arrival (kappa).

	"what I want is what i've not got"

	-katy sampson


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 5:40 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: ?

hey all.
 This is in response to the ? of who is Anne. i would have rather sent
 this directly to the person who questioned but i deleted the message
 because of a momentary lapse in me brainage.
 anyway, Anne was Dave's sister who lived in South Africa. She died a
 while ago, can't remember exact month,but it goes without saying
 that Dave was extremely knocked by this. Dave is way into family and
 peaceful habitats when he has the chance to actually exist in these
 psychological regions. so Dave dedicated "the table.." to his sister.
 it gave me chills when i first opened the album to read the credits
 and found nothing but a dedication to Anne. i guess Dave believed
 that thanking anyone else in the "thank you's" section would have
 detracted from who he really wanted to be remembered through this
 album...his beautiful sister Anne. 
      Peace.
                    
                             Sailing for the Sun,

                                CHA * *
                                     _


Posted By: Robert4192@aol.com
Time/Date: 6:37 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Atlanta DMB Opener?

Hiall,

I read here that From Good Homes was opening the Dec. 27 Atlanta show, but
someone else listed a different band (can't remember who).  If anyone has
heard, please post!
Thanks,
Robert Simpson (who just bought a fourth row ticket for his first DMB show!)


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 7:24 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Re: ?

On Sat, 19 Nov 1994, Chardy McEwan wrote:

> 
> hey all.
>  This is in response to the ? of who is Anne. i would have rather sent
>  this directly to the person who questioned but i deleted the message
>  because of a momentary lapse in me brainage.
>  anyway, Anne was Dave's sister who lived in South Africa. She died a
>  while ago, can't remember exact month,but it goes without saying
>  that Dave was extremely knocked by this. Dave is way into family and
>  peaceful habitats when he has the chance to actually exist in these
>  psychological regions. so Dave dedicated "the table.." to his sister.
>  it gave me chills when i first opened the album to read the credits
>  and found nothing but a dedication to Anne. i guess Dave believed
>  that thanking anyone else in the "thank you's" section would have
>  detracted from who he really wanted to be remembered through this
>  album...his beautiful sister Anne. 
>       Peace.
>                     
>                              Sailing for the Sun,
> 
>                                 CHA * *
>                                      _
> 

It has also been suggested that Anne was killed by her husband leaving 
two? children orphaned, but I can't confirm this.  About the picture, is 
Dave holding his nephew?  And are the others in the picture of any 
significance?

			M A L A C H I


Posted By: BHCHRIST@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:47 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject:

SUBSCRIBE, PLEASE!


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:54 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: ANNE

yes folks 
anne was his sister 
and although i hesitate to discuss details about people's private lives 
in public  ...
it is true, atleast as closely as i can varify through friends of the 
band and such .. repeated conversations and the like, ...
that it was her husband that shot her and then shot himself
and yes it is true that her 2 sons (dave's nephews) were left orphaned
and yes they are pictured on UTTAD
and ... i have only seen them once at Vanriper's Lake near C-ville last 
spring, with his sister Jane, where dave dedicated the first songs to 
them as  it was the first time his nephews had heard him play.

hmmm ... its cheerier to think of dave the family man than it is to 
ponder the tragedy, so ill leave you with that
catherine


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 10:09 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: Re: ANNE

yo babe...

get in touch about monday if you want to come up or not ... 
or over... if over is the right word.
hm.... i'm trying to think.. maybe youre'e still online.
i'll see if i can catch you on irc if it works through this telnet system 
i'm logged onto... cool?

hugs

*******************************************************************************
                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 10:50 PM Saturday, November 19, 1994
Subject: shots of soco and ben and jerries

oops. but that's not me.l i'm not drinking..
i'm sane. 
i'm jsut hapy..
and i fucked up on the reply thingy..

but i'll post somethingpertinant now.. 
hee hee

anne's two orphaned children are a girl and a boy. ( to my knowledge)
and her death occurred in january.. while dave was touring out west with 
the sampoles and when dave had to fly back to s.africa the samples put on 
one, maybe two or more, free shows to raise some extra cash for anne's 
children for soem kind of fund or something.... 
anyone? anyone? correct me if i'm wrong.
out to each cookie dough.... he ehe i'm gone.. hugs to all... 

spoon.. ok? spoonlots.. 

*******************************************************************************
                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************
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