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November 2026, 1994

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Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:41 AM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: I don't know I didn't go into Burger King

Why do we need a name?  WHY?
I think forcing the issue with post after post concerning the perfect name
screws it up more.  Let it flow.  Let inertia do its wacky thang and Dave can
be our gravity.

hee hee.

And um spooning.  No more posts about that either!  Boy am I picky.  I sure
hope Rick sends me neato mail about my annoyance level (but in his heart of
hearts he knows someone has to do it).

Everybody have a superawesome niftykeen thanksgiving.  i will.
rent lots of muppet movies.

Oh since everyone else seems to do it & i know it makes her feel neato, clare
needs fritos.  that is all.


Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

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Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 1:45 AM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject:

minarants--
           i was just relaxin, watching the sunset, thinking about what claire
 would have to say about medical sociology (you know, to make my medical
 sociology paper sound more ... lovely), when it hit me -- I cannot recall
 if anyone has mentioned this, or not, (and if so, then I'm truly sorry for BW)
 but I finally, after 3 long days (or so) figured out what one little thing
 bothered me about the ant t-shirt thingy.  The thought of little ants, all
 neatly stacked in rows, with one going "nuts", reminds me just a little of
 all those little bears, in rows, but with all dancing (and one holding a ____
 whatever).  It is the similarities in symbolism, that created this thought.
 Even though, I'm not so sure what the dancing bears were ever supposed to
 symbolize.  Am I the only one who had these thoughts?  The good news:   Is:
 its just different enough to make me think this shirt would be ... nice.
 So, (for whoever is doing the polling) put a mark in the pro-ant-T column for
 me; I just couldn't figure out if this idea was in my head, solely, or if
 once the ants get from out of heads, and on to Ts, if it will be more
 aesthetically pleasing.  Either way, I'll want one (but Ts are a better place
 for ants, than heads, anyway).

                                       keith


Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 2:55 AM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: your mailG8ebt.H

On Sun, 20 Nov 1994 KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> minarants--
>            i was just relaxin, watching the sunset, thinking about what claire
>  would have to say about medical sociology (you know, to make my medical
>  sociology paper sound more ... lovely), when it hit me -- I cannot recall
>  if anyone has mentioned this, or not, (and if so, then I'm truly sorry for BW)
>  but I finally, after 3 long days (or so) figured out what one little thing
>  bothered me about the ant t-shirt thingy.  The thought of little ants, all
>  neatly stacked in rows, with one going "nuts", reminds me just a little of
>  all those little bears, in rows, but with all dancing (and one holding a ____
>  whatever).  It is the similarities in symbolism, that created this thought.
>  Even though, I'm not so sure what the dancing bears were ever supposed to
>  symbolize.  Am I the only one who had these thoughts?  The good news:   Is:
>  its just different enough to make me think this shirt would be ... nice.
>  So, (for whoever is doing the polling) put a mark in the pro-ant-T column for
>  me; I just couldn't figure out if this idea was in my head, solely, or if
>  once the ants get from out of heads, and on to Ts, if it will be more
>  aesthetically pleasing.  Either way, I'll want one (but Ts are a better place
>  for ants, than heads, anyway).
> 
>                                        keith
>


Posted By: car3@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 1:29 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: dave, bob mould, pain, stipe, and turkey day

last night my friend sean and i went to go see sugar (with magnapop) at 
the cat's cradle in chapel hill.  bob mould can still rock with the best 
of them in a pretty hard way (there's just something scary about malcolm 
travis, the drummer, that scares me however...).  there were wonderful 
tunes aboundbut something scared me.  that was the fierceness of the pit 
that started right in front of the pit.  it was a pit full of fools who 
thought that they were in a middle school mosh pit, banging on one 
another for the sheer point of beating you senseless and even 
sucker-punching some people.  that's just not cool. i hurt so bad after 
the pit, and my man sean took off his shoe to find a bloody sock thanks 
to the freaks who can't execute a proper pit.  he also got kicked in the 
face with a doc marten by some guy who didn't know how to crowd surf.

now, the relevance of this point: let us all hope that this is not the 
fate for dave shows with all of these dave-come-latelies who have come to 
hear ants.  that would not make cory (and probably most of the rest of 
you) a happy guy.

there have been some posts of late comparing some aspects of dave to 
micheal stipe and i cannot help but to say that these comparisons are 
very true.  for one, their stage actions.  this little leg kick that dave 
sometimes goes into looks so stipean that it is not even funny.  we're 
talking very turn you inside-out-ish here.  there is more but i will not 
waste bandwidth with it.

finally, along with my vote for the ant t-shirt, i wish all of you 
minareters a holly jolly turkey day.  just don't eat too much.  check you 
guys in about a week...


						the magus

"what was ressurection without a few laughs?"
			-clive barker-
"things need not have happened to be true.  tales and dreams are the 
shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and 
forgot."
			-neil gaiman-


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 2:19 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: M I N A R E T S.

Hey y'all,
        Ever since the beginning of this sememster, when I saw Dave twice
in  one weekend (the Best=8A), I've been calling myself a "daver."    I
thought it was a bit lame, but it came naturally to my lips.

I also feel that one need not call oneself ANYTHING, and those who object
to any sort of naming (i.e. Granny, Billy, Minaret) should feel free to
abstain.    But those of us who FEEL A CERTAIN TYPE OF KINSHIP along the
net, and want to recognize that (like me), have every right to want a name.


I like 'Minarets'; for the same reason I like the 'Under the Table and
Dreaming' for an album title.    You can BE playing under the table, as the
lyrics suggest, or you can be PLAYING UTTAD.    The album.    Cool.

The name 'Minarets' for netters (or all-around davers) lends itself to
usages like, "Don't mind the flames, it's just screaming from the
Minarets."

But I don't think, "I'm a Minaret," works too well.   In that case, I'd
call myself a 'daver.'

I also like the name because it carries that religious tone that we all
seem to identify with when it comes to DMB.    "I follow Dave Band
religiously," or "I worship Dave Band," or "I'm not worthy," etc.    We
reside in the minarets.net.   We visit minarets.    We talk to each other
over the minarets.   And we ARE Minarets.    Think about it.


Although 'Granny' is one of my favorite songs, I think the name 'Grannies'
just doesn't cut it.    It not only sounds like we're old, but it also
excludes males in that some people (not me, who sometimes logs on as
'Dancing Nancy') cannot (or do not want to) view themselves according to a
female pseudonym.

Thanks for plowing through my verbosity.    Those of you who have read this
far need not reply, but I would like to know who you are...

laters,
        -Dominic "Anyone Other Than Me" Sagolla

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you remember two things...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@sccs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: taocon@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 2:23 PM Sudnay, November 20, 1994
Subject: Dec 30th, Bayou Washington DC

As far as I know, DMB will be playing the Bayou in DC the night before
their big bash NYE in Richmond. So if I'm like dead wrong, set me straight.
But does anyone know if tickets have gone/will go on sale soon or has it
passed already?

                                                        TOC


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 2:27 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 358

>From: Kyle Kristopher Langschwager <allgood@umich.edu>
>
>	Def:   Spooning, a verb, it means to lay next to someone, hopefully
>	       a member of the opposite sex, with your back puzzled(the
>	       key word) into their front side.  Or vise versa, with your
>	       front side pussled into their back.  I guess it is a uniform
>   	       pattern of snuggling (although I hate that word) with
>  	       someone.

i realize i'm prolly going to get flamed for posting this publicly instead
of relegating in to e-mail, so if you feel inclined to give me a hard time,
give _me_ a hard time, not the net.  but i feel like what i have to say is
important to the overall good kharma that this net holds.

anyway, this definition of spooning troubles me.  why do we need to include
the phrase "hopefully a member of the opposit sex?"  this phrase immediately
connotes alterior motives, and i really see it hard to deny this.  i also see
it as completely defeating the purpose of spooning.  spooning is platonic,
and worrying about the sex of the individuals involved brings in sexual
orientation, and if you start worrying about that, you aren't spooning anymore.

i'm not trying to jump up and down with my pink triangle and yell "YOU'RE 
EXCLUDING FREINDS OF MINE!!!!!!!" i'm trying to make sure that spooning is
kept at what it's supposed to be, an act of friendship and love, and not
a neat new name for foreplay.  i can see how comforting it is to spoon with
someone within your sexual orientation (ie: someone of the opposite sex), and
if that's the only thing you are comfortable with, so be it.  but let's not
define it as such, because it really puts an evil vibe on spooning that 
doesn't need to be there.

oh, and "spooning" is a participle.  that makes it a noun.  ;)

and i do have some dave stuff:
get in line is a GREAT fucking tune.  every time i listen to it i realize
that there is more to listen to.  i've tried to pick it out, and it's giving
me more problems than so much to say did.  it's so intricate and i'd really
have to say mind-boggling.  this song has the potential to blossom into the
most amazing thing they've put together to date (except for blue water, 
11-17-92:) if they treat it right.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 3:19 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: Dec 30th, Bayou Washington DC

About DMB playing the Bayou on December 30 -- I am pretty certain that 
God Street Wine says that they (GSW) are playing at the Bayou that 
night.  I could be wrong, but you probably want to check.  Given the fact 
that DMB is probably too big now to play at the BAyou this might be 
true.  They played Lisner the last time, right?

Ben



On Sun, 20 Nov 1994, Tommy O wrote:

> As far as I know, DMB will be playing the Bayou in DC the night before
> their big bash NYE in Richmond. So if I'm like dead wrong, set me straight.
> But does anyone know if tickets have gone/will go on sale soon or has it
> passed already?
> 
>                                                         TOC
> 
> 


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Play disc.  Disc.  Disc.  Disc.  And try to relax a little bit too.

Benjamin Booth '95				benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu
(610) 690 - 3772				bbooth1@cc.swarthmore.edu


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 3:38 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: M I N A R E T S.

I'd like to, at this time, strongly object to "davers". That just sounds 
really really lame to me. Sorry. I would also at this time like to 
stongly object to "grannies". I would like to add my objections to 
"satellites". As well as "Dancing Nancies". Oh...and "Minarets". And 
don't forget "Jimmies". And chalk up objections to "Ants" , "Recentlies", 
"Billies", "Sweet Worlds" ,"Janes", "Seek Up's", "Back You up's", or god 
forbid "Christmas Song's", "Best of whatever's", "WWYS's", "Rhyme and 
Reason's", "Situation's", "Warehouse's", "Number anything", 
"Spotlight's", "Blue Water's", "Baboon's", and "Drive in Drive out's" 
just in case they come up. Please. For god's sake don't pin a label on me.

I'm a Dave Matthew's Band Fan....and that's it.
Could I have been anyone other than me? No.


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 4:37 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: M I N A R E T S.

>"Spotlight's", "Blue Water's", "Baboon's", and "Drive in Drive out's"
>just in case they come up. Please. For god's sake don't pin a label on me.

heh..

I kind of like Baboon's.

woo woo woo  hah hahha hhhaaaaa..


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Edie Brickell

I have a tape of her from a while back, and she says "This is for all you
freakazoidals out there..   for all you who people wanna put a label,
.. a ... a nametag on.."  and then breaks into "What I Am".

I'm not too crazy about this name-searching, gang.  I'm with the thought that
if we want a label/nametag for followers of daveband, it will come naturally.
It seems like the issue is being unnaturally pushed.  Maybe it's just because
none of the "names" I've seen have really caught my eye and have made me
willing to embrace it..  But the posts lately have been debating this name
vs. that name and what this means or what that says..

Maybe it's also that I don't like stereotypes being applied.  Trek fans, avid
book readers, computer junkies, sports fans, animal rights activists... you
name it, all have a name.  And when that name is applied many assumptions are
made.  However, this negative result is unavoidable.

In no way do I want to come down on those advocating names for the followers,
but I don't think it should be pushed.  When it will come, it will come.
There is not a time constraint here.  I'd prefer a term that many use
casually and sticks to one that is formally decided upon.

may all the multiple recipients of list live well..

brett

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Brett Kingswell                                           bmking@mail.wm.edu

why is it that we don't always recognize when love begins
but we always know the moment it ends

a kiss may not be the truth
but it is what we wish were true


Posted By: dominic@sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 5:04 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: M I N A R E T S.

> 
> I'd like to, at this time, strongly object to "davers". That just sounds 
> really really lame to me.

as I said. 

> Sorry. I would also at this time like to 
> stongly object to "grannies". I would like to add my objections to 
> "satellites". As well as "Dancing Nancies". Oh...and "Minarets". And 
> don't forget "Jimmies". And chalk up objections to "Ants" , "Recentlies", 
> "Billies", "Sweet Worlds" ,"Janes", "Seek Up's", "Back You up's", or god 
> forbid "Christmas Song's", "Best of whatever's", "WWYS's", "Rhyme and 
> Reason's", "Situation's", "Warehouse's", "Number anything", 
> "Spotlight's", "Blue Water's", "Baboon's", and "Drive in Drive out's" 
> just in case they come up. Please. For god's sake don't pin a label on me.
> 
> I'm a Dave Matthew's Band Fan....and that's it.
> Could I have been anyone other than me? No.
> 
> 
Jeremy, 
	You fall into the catagory of those who "should feel free to
abstain".  No one is talking about labeling YOU.  If you don't like to be
labelled, don't address your mail, "Greetings fellow Minarets" or
something.  Also, assuming that we DO agree on a name, I hope you understand
that it is a term of endearment, and not a term of confinement or
exclusivity.

Thanks for the non-flame, 
	-Anyone Other Than Me


Posted By: JOSANDS@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 5:31 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 359

I just wanted to thank the kids that wtote out all of the DMB tablature
I think that it is transcribed real well and it is a blast to play.

I think that Sateliites gets my vote for a good name
because we all do float around Dave and his Music.

Grannies is bad.  There is no way around it. Don't do it.


Posted By: longmire@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 5:40 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: 11/19/94 and other stuff

11-19-94

wow-this show is a prime example of why you can't judge a show purely on 
setlist

in the words of Bagby-"tonight they were slammin'"

can you say energy? 

mvp-stefan
enough said
I'll post more about this later
impressions on the weekend-

Wed Nov.16th: Gibb Droll and David Gray
Boyd jammed with Gibb Droll on 2 tunes-very nice including "So What" 

Thurs- covered in a previous post but it was a cruiser until the last 4 
tunes when they kicked into serious high energy

Fri Nov.17th:

the video footage shot at the Fox will complement other more artistic 
compositions- sounds pretty cool-yes,as mentioned before, painted faces etc.

it looked amazingly real as they were essentially lipsynching to the CD 
cut of WWYSay-Carter looked hilarious when they weren't doing closeups on 
him as he would play along to the tune and obviously could've done it in 
his sleep and I only saw the last  hr or so of the shoot

the band seemed to be having a good time despite what had to be a totally 
monotonous event

as far as the show goes, during the 1st set it was so lit up in there 
with the house lights up and the added lights from the video crew, it was 
totally surreal-imagine being able to see everyone's face in the 
crowd as well as that of the band-definitely wild for a zoomer buzz
I put on my sunglasses

other stuff:

the band will be doing encores with Phish at the upcoming California
shows-apparently they've been talking about specific songs to
do together

look for an upcoming tour with Big Head Todd with each band sharing the 
bill and alternating as openers and closers

last word on the Fox shows- the crowds were overall very cool-the mix was 
so good-clean, fat and powerul-beautiful image etc that an aud tape would 
have blown away the board tape 

2 of my older friends-they graduated from UVa law school in the 80's-saw 
their 1st Dave shows last night- needless to say, they used to think 
Indecision was the shit

take it easy

john

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john longmire
PO Box 382
Boulder,CO  80306-0382
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Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 6:00 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: we danced in graveyards with vampyres till noon

On Sun, 20 Nov 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:

> >From: Kyle Kristopher Langschwager <allgood@umich.edu>
> >
> >	Def:   Spooning, a verb, it means to lay next to someone, hopefully
> >	       a member of the opposite sex, with your back puzzled(the
> >	       key word) into their front side.  Or vise versa, with your
> >	       front side pussled into their back.  I guess it is a uniform
> >   	       pattern of snuggling (although I hate that word) with
> >  	       someone.
> anyway, this definition of spooning troubles me.  why do we need to include
me to. trouble me... trouble man... trouble joel's dog.

> the phrase "hopefully a member of the opposit sex?"  this phrase immediately
> connotes alterior motives, and i really see it hard to deny this.  i also see
> it as completely defeating the purpose of spooning.  spooning is platonic,
> and worrying about the sex of the individuals involved brings in sexual
> orientation, and if you start worrying about that, you aren't spooning 
>anymore.
right on my fellow spooner!
spooning is not something that is sexual. not in any way. one _can_ spoon 
with someone you are intimately involved with, but it's not a sexual 
activity. it is a form on intimacy. and one can have intimacy with 
anyone, regarless of race, IQ, and most of all gender. spooning is an 
activity that should not cause SEX to come into one's mind. like rick 
said. dear dear rick.... 'if you start worrying about it, you aren't 
spooning anymore.....' so true.. so true...

the most precise definition of spooning i can give, is 'platonic cuddling'
because that is all that spooning is. 
i spoon with my cat.
i spoon with my stuffed grover from sesame street.
i spoon with my pillow. 
i spoon with my best friends (guys and girls)
you can spoon with anyone and it is all bout not being confined within 
the realm of sex and gender. it's about being involved with another 
person and the comfort and intimacy level you are on do share it in such 
a manner as wonderful as spooning.

tell the kids to drink their hot chocolate and that i cant' wait to spoon 
with them over coffee and dinner at 3rd st.

love light trust and multi-dimensional energy...
clare emily

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                   'never never never let me go' she says 
           'hold me like this for a hundred thousand million days' 
          but suddenly she slows and looks down in my breaking face  
      'why do you cry? what did i say?'  'but it's just rain' i smile...
                          brushing my tears away...    

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
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Posted By: eje3u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 6:34 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Anne, Jane, Dave

>From my last digest: 
> yes folks 
> anne was his sister 
> and although i hesitate to discuss details about people's private lives 
> in public  ...
> it is true, atleast as closely as i can varify through friends of the 
> band and such .. repeated conversations and the like, ...
> that it was her husband that shot her and then shot himself
> and yes it is true that her 2 sons (dave's nephews) were left orphaned
> and yes they are pictured on UTTAD
> and ... i have only seen them once at Vanriper's Lake near C-ville last 
> spring, with his sister Jane, where dave dedicated the first songs to 
> them as  it was the first time his nephews had heard him play.

I havn't seen this mentioned yet, and probably many of you know it already,
the woman with Dave and the nephews inside the CD is Jane.
Does anyone know how often she attends concerts these days?  She said
somthing once in a local paper here in Charlottesville that didn't get much
attention on minarets but it implied that Dave was likely to move on from
this career when his interests inevitably led him elswhere.  Sort of like
this was just a hobby for now.  This was about the time that people were
lamenting the lack of new material, and I took the two together to be a bad
sign for the future of DMB.  I'm more optimistic now but still wary.

Eric


Posted By: katrai@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 6:57 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: New Year's Eve...

i need to know everything anybody knows about Dave in Richmond on New
Year's Eve... is it the same as last year, i.e. $40 a ticket, or what?

                            thanks.

                                   KAT


Posted By: saf1@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 8:18 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: phish?

Sorry to post a non-dave message on the net and i am sure i will recieve 
some flames on this but i was wondering if someone could tell me how to 
get into the phish net or the widespread net.  also if anyone knows 
anything about any upcoming WSP shows on the east coast?

thanks for any help, please email directly at saf1@acpub.duke.edu

sandy


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SLM94002@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Time/Date: 8:24 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: need suggestions for xmaslist

hey all! we have approached the time when some of us begin to prepare our
christmas lists.  i would love to add some new music to my collection and i am
looking for some suggestions.  the band has to have their cd in most music
shops. i have already located a rusted root cd and want to thank you for that
already taken suggestion. i am in the mass. and conn. area, so bands from
around here may be easier for me to locate. seeing we all hold a common
interest i trust your suggestions!!!!! :) thanks


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 8:55 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: 11/19/94 and other stuff

> 
> 2 of my older friends-they graduated from UVa law school in the 80's-saw 
> their 1st Dave shows last night- needless to say, they used to think 
> Indecision was the shit

Indecision was the shit!  Hopefully they'll still have it in them for friday.
I have faith


Posted By: kreytatd@maple.lemoyne.edu
Time/Date: 10:19 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Tim's Newbie Offer-please read

If I am making you tapes as per my newbie offer, please be patient.
I offered to make for 10 and that turned into 25, plus I turned
people away.  I think that this is a high portion of the net which
have no tapes.  Anyway I will try to get everyones tapes in the mail by
thanksgiving, asssuming I get all your blanks by then.   I have already
started making tapes.  So if you haven't sent youre blanks, get to the post 
office.  Sorry, for the post to the net, but 25 personal email messages,
wouldn't have been too fun.  
So everyone, here is the trick.  forget about the tapes.  and then
next week after you are all done eating right for the first time in three
months, and drinking all the beer that someone else paid for(your parents!)
and you go back to school.  The tapes will be there.

Again sorry for the rambling.  
see you on the flip side.

where did that quote come from ?  any ideas.

-tim


Posted By: johnfro@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 10:31 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: i hate sandy and so should you

sandy, eat a fat dick
never again do i want to see a non-dave message on this net.  you are 
such a dumbass!! how can you not know how to get into the other nets.  if 
ignorance is bliss, you must be really happy, you fucking moron.  get a 
clue to life and shut up and listen to the more intelligent members of 
our race, namely, everyone else.  don't you have friends that could tell 
you how to get on these nets. apparently not, you're such a fucking 
loser.  don't ever fucking clog up this net with messages again or i'll 
personally beat the shit out of you, you fucking dumbass.  leave space 
for messages from nebulos ben and fred house; nobody fucking gives a 
rat's ass about your inane questions.  your stupidity is tearing the ass 
out of me.  shut up, and never fucking rear your ugly face on this net again.

i love clare and so does sandy
							johnfro


Posted By: HFEJP@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu
Time/Date: 10:39 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: DMB in Texas!!!!!!

Hello all.

Just had it confirmed that Dave is finally coming to Texas in December, and
felt the need to share my joy with people who understand!  I'm also wondering
if there are any other souls on Minarets who might be going to the shows.  I
haven't noticed any email addresses with Texas origins, but if you're out there
please let me know.  The band will be doing three shows down here -- Here in
Austin on the 15th (venue TBA), Houston on the 16th, and Trees in Dallas on
the 17th.  Grad school is kind to me and I have no finals, so I think I'm going
to try to hit all three.  It would be great to know that someone cool from the
net will be there too (Hint Hint Brett -- think you can swing the plane fare??)
Anyway, I am truly psyched! I think Austin will go crazy for Dave.

Everybody have a great Turkey day.
Beth


Posted By: CGL5671@ACS.TAMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:47 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Dave's Woman

Here's a Question for YA!!!

	Does Dave have a steady girlfriend or is he married or what?  Does
he have kids?  Did he adopt the nephews?

O.K. So that's 3 questions.

							Sorry,
							Cliff
							CGL5671@zeus.tamu.edu


Posted By: @mail.trincoll.edu:E.Beck@mail.trincoll.edu
Time/Date: 10:55 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: NYE sold out?

hey this is emily..
did the tickets for NYE go on sale on the 10th?  Is it sold out?
Someone inform me please!!


Posted By: dsacker@sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 11:08 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: i hate sandy and so should you

I am shocked and appalled at this latest flame outburst.  This is the first 
time I have actually posted to minarets and I would have liked it to be about 
a better subject (like seeing dave twice in one weekend while playing in 
an Ultimate tournament simultanously; all in three distinct areas, NYC, 
Philly, and State College PA.), unfortunately, it is not.  

I just don't understand all of the anger that has been surfacing on 
minarets lately.  Why can't people just leave well enough alone.  I do not 
want to personally attack johnfro but I felt that his last message was 
rude and obnoxious; not only to Sandy but to others reading it.  I am not 
a big fan of flame wars but when we resort to using violent threats, my 
stomach turns.  

I can not figure out whether or not this was some sort of sick joke.  If it 
was, I did not find in amusing.  If it was a sincere post, I feel 
distraught at the use of explicatives and violent threats.  This net 
should be a place to talk about what a great band DMB is, not to attack 
one another.

Have a great week and a Happy Thanksgiving,
Dave


Posted By: tos@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 11:22 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Carbon12 again

I guess I was kinda excited Friday nite, and I know this isn't the 
Carbon12 net but...I saw this small little band (two guys from duke - low 
budget) and the were, well...very different.  I thought I'd post here 
because The closest thing I can think of that they sound like is Dave 
Matthews, (maybe David Byrne) - with kinda nonsensical lyrics... here's 
the set they played since you guys seem to like setlists:

Free mind
Peruvian Ski Lift
Ape
Circus World (new)
Porch Woman (new)
Song That Jane Likes (cover)
Fortune Teller
Untitled
Fade Away
Java
So. Central Rain (cover)
Sunday Walk Away

I would have taped it, but they don't have a sound board (can you say 
really grass-roots?) Anyway, I thought that I would give them a bit of 
free advertising since they did me right this weekend.  I think both of 
the guys write on this list: Their names are Sean and Cory.

Thanks guys - If you happen to read this

JEAN 

	"After everything I've done I hate myself for what I've become"

				-Trent Reznor-
				     nin


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 11:59 PM Sunday, November 20, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB in Texas!!!!!!

>to try to hit all three.  It would be great to know that someone cool from the
>net will be there too (Hint Hint Brett -- think you can swing the plane fare??)

If everyone from the net would kindly send $1 to: CS Box 351  Williamsbu....


random question for the evening: anyone know who Ron Lessard is?  Shannon
Worrell does a thankye to him in three wishes, & was just curious if he was
Stefan's brother, dad, uncle, cousin, nephew, dog...

happy ladling..

bbrreet

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                           bmking@mail.wm.edu
why is it that we don't always recognize when love begins but we always know
the moment it ends a kiss may not be the truth but it is what we wish were
true I know I could say just one thing that would change everything but that
wouldn't be me so why don't we just pretend like I did say that one thing?


Posted By: KMAUGHA1@SSS.CBA.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 12:02 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Simple question

Does Anyone know who is coming to Birmingham on Dec 28 with Dave?

thanks.
Kevin


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 1:10 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: i hate sandy and so should you

I have faith that something was array in this person's message. Having 
seen messages from him before, he doesn't seem like the type to write 
something as incredibly pointless and hateful as what I just read. So 
let's all just leave it alone. We'll all be happier for it. We don't need 
to repeat that stuff with Courtland from last week. And if he did write 
it, well, a person who would bother to write something like that is a sad 
enough sight without our flames.
	
	Deciding to now include my last name what with the recent influx 
	of Adams posting on the Minaret net,
	Adam Vann


Posted By: dee3s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:19 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: New Year's Eve

Hey all:  
  Can someone give me some more info on this event?  Are tickets
sold out/selling out/not on sale?  How much are rooms at the
hotel?  Who's going?  A bunch of us are pondering the road tip
(trip, that is) from New Jersey.  Well, thanks in advance.

Dan Entin


Posted By: crf3@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 3:44 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Phish/Sandy/Jeanfro

Guys, calm down...can you say 'joke?' Haven't you ever seen posts from 
these guys before?  They go to school together, I think (?) they're 
friends.  Their messages end with 'I love Clare and so does Sandy' or 
something like that. Everything will be alright, no need to start those 
anti flame threads again...
BTW...any duke fans out there on minarets?  e mail me...

			----....----....----....----
			      Cheri R. Feingold
			     crf3@acpub.duke.edu	
			       (919)-613-1132
	
			      "I believe...."
				    -J.Michael Stipe
			----....----....----....----


Posted By: abaraff@MACALSTR.EDU
Time/Date: 5:06 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Johnfro's flame

If a flame seems so lucicrous that it could only be a joke, then it
probably is.  Before you post complaining about a flame, please read the
header.  Regarding Johnfro's flaming of Sanford, you'll note that both
parties are from the same school.  (Duke)  I would assume that these two
folks are buddies and Johnfro was simply playing with Sanford.  Too bad it
couldn't have been funnier considering the bandwidth.  GO TARHEELS?
-Aaron.

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Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 5:52 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Atlanta gathering

   It seems as though interest in the Atlanta show at the Fox on Dec. 27 
is pretty high within the net.  Also, tickets went on sale Saturday, so 
the show actually seems real (tickets are at TicketBastard, just call 
(404)249-6400).  Therefore, in the spirit of newly-famed net-gatherings 
at shows, I'd like to propose one for this show.  Maybe it's selfish, but 
I'd really like to put some faces to some of you signatures out there in 
e-mail land.  Reply to me personally if you like the idea, and if it 
looks like it could happen, I'll post to the net. 

			Thanks for your attention,
				M A L A C H I

BTW, BEWARE:
	Tickets are VERY pricey (I think $22.50 each)!


Posted By: toddb@chopin.udel.edu
Time/Date: 8:19 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 360

On Mon, 21 Nov 1994 minarets@moose.uvm.edu wrote:

> "WWYS's", 

Just out of curoiusity, how's that pronounced anyway?  
This get's my vote.  ;)

> Could I have been anyone other than me? No.
Unless, of course, you were Shirly McLaine (sp)


Todd Beauchamp  
toddb@chopin.udel.edu
>


Posted By: 74167.3051@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 8:59 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Cancel minarets subscription

cancel minarets


Posted By: MHIBLER@LOYOLA.EDU
Time/Date: 10:21 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: DMB in DC

		From what I heard on the DMB concert line, Dave is
going to be playing Bender Arena on the 30th of December in DC. I have no
clue if tickets have gone on sale or what.

		I have also heard a rumbling rumor that Dave is going to
be touring with Big Head Todd, this spring.  I saw that someone else had
also heard this too. 

						later, Michael			 
	
						MHibler@Loyola.edu


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 11:01 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Namething

    I think what's at issue here, is not whether we want to label
ourselves permanently and get tattoo's of the Dave Matthews logo on us
all with the name <insert your fav here...>, but rather that we felt
that "Multiple Recipients of List 'Minarets'" was a little too cold. 
Correct me if I'm wrong.  Alex could probably correct me on this, but
it might not be possible to change the namefield, so all of this
"Don't Label Me, Damnit!" stuff is kinda wasted.  We all should
understand the problems with labels [ notice the close proximitiy to
'libel' nuff said], and the differentiation that is not what Minarets
is about.  If we really want to change the name field to something
more friendly and inviting, how about this: 
Send to: Minarnetters....since we are minarets and on the net... just
a few pence, not even $.02.  

    Anyone out there get some Dave with (e:) stuff from out west??? 
Anyone in the DC area that isn't going to Richmond NYE, that wants to,
join me at the sound board for everything's new years bash... They're
going to finish a year long "Lauri" break.

    Eat lots of tryptophan and fall fast asleep and don't watch
football, later, minarets!  PS: Anyone going to the Grady Cole
Center's show for Hootie and the Blowfish on Wed???? Maybe I'll see ya
there.  I'll try to wear my Dave Matthews Hat [ navy with beige
letters...]Peace, Holmes!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
   __  "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies? 
  /  \ ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set
  |e:| you free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  \__/ "Dark clouds may hang on me sometimes, but I, I'll work it out, and then
	I, look up at the sky"-Dave Matthews Band:Dancing Nancies
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 11:17 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: Johnfro's flame

It seems to me that if a flame IS ludicrous and unpleasant, then it does 
not need to be on the Net.  It is not up to the other readers to edit 
what they read.  Netters should be responsible enough to post relevant 
material.  If you want to fuck around with your friends, use private email.

About Dec. 30 in DC: I just verified that God St is playing at the Bayou 
that night (this agrees with today's post about DMB at Bender)

Cheers,
Ben


******************************************************************************
Play disc.  Disc.  Disc.  Disc.  And try to relax a little bit too.

Benjamin Booth '95				benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu
(610) 690 - 3772				bbooth1@cc.swarthmore.edu


Posted By: jag1@cornell.edu
Time/Date: 11:55 AM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: Bayou, Dec. 30 Washington

I know GSWs mailer says they are playing the Bayou on 12/30, and I'm pretty
sure I saw the same in the Bayou's ad in the Weekend section of the
Washington Post a couple weeks ago.

"Well we couldn't all be cowboys
so some of us are clowns."
-Adam Duritz


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 12:01 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Secret song and other ramblings.

 hey all.
 here's the lyrics of a Mr. Matthews tune of certain mysterious origins.
 is anyone out there.....

                  "No New Directions"
                               
                    Whats yours and whats mine
               in these troubled times
          no new directions

hey our borders are lined
with the troubled minds
of a thousand generations

oh,my friends we've been walking
hearing words of voices,empty talking
love admired by poets and desired
by hungry,hungry hatred
no new directions

the man he lies,compromise,whats in his eyes
is it tears of conviction
for the good,for the truth
i hear him say,we must,we must
murder millions
no new directions

in our hands
hold the land and the sky
in our hands
its a grand illusion
no new directions
                --Dave Matthews



.....this is the song.  Anyone?

*********************************************
to the lucky few who posess this here bagby:
and yes i finally heard the infamous 11/17 tape by the graciousness
of her godessness. wow. was everyone on the floor in complete
orgasmic ecstacy during Blue H2o? or were they floating around the
room defying all sorts of gravity. i've caught some good "Blues" but
Boyd didn't quite do what he did there. that song,as noticed at
early shows, seemed to bore alot of people until Boyd got thier
attention. but for me. holy shit i wished i was on stage being able
to perform such a heavy,mellow song. maybe one day......anyway,
for those who own a copy, do everyone justice and put 11/17 Blue Water
Baboon on any tape that needs a filler.....alllriiigghhhhttt.

********************************
this is just a select question:
so on to the next wave. poor old Nags Head got a beating. anyone out
there have connections to the shorebreak in Salvo? i paid my dues
this summer....4 wheels,a peanut bar,6 in the morning, and a
hangover.....damn forgot the wax...oh well gonna eat sand for
breakfast again.    hello?


and back to the relevance of DAMABA.
i love the band and i love you. (no i'm not Barney the dino)
Peace to shakin' that ass.

            chasing me all around in circles,leading me all around in circles,
            until i be dizzy and a nappy headed creatuore of spirit,  
                                     
                                     CHA * *
                                         \_/


Posted By: tomwa@jsbus.com
Time/Date: 12:04 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: MINARETS digest 360

Dec 1 DMB will play in Santa Cruz CA at Palokaville.  THis is the
day before DMB joins Phish for a couple of Northern Calif. shows.
Tickets are $5.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom Wallace - Director, Distribution Sales       108 Whispering Pines Dr.
JSB Corporation                                   Scotts Valley, CA 95066
408-438-8300 ext 209; (in U.S. & Canada) 800-359-3408    FAX 408-438-8360
tomwa@jsbus.com


Posted By: amity3@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 12:07 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: NYE questions n stuff

Hi everyone.
I'm unfamiliar as to the facts about NYE. Maybe someone could post what 
they know for sure about:
tix prices (40 or 50 or what?)
accomadations... do we really stay there at the hotel?
other related stuff.
Sorry if this is a redundant post but I'm fairly new to the minarets 
world and just trying to get as much DMB as possible!
BTW- is it true that the show is 18+ and if so...How can one beat 
that.I'm only 17 and all.
PS-SPOONING IS COOL AND IT IS ALSO WHATEVER YOU WISH IT TO BE FOR 
YOURSELF AND YOUR PARTNER. (sexual or not!!)
and to Clare Emily: great Post! but I don't think you are leaving much 
room for personal interpretation of something quite personal...but still 
very thoughtful and nice and good.
___Hey Yaron-----(that's me)


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 12:41 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: i little something i want to share...

for those of you who endeavour to create literate works, whether they be
poetry, short stories, long stories, lyrics, or just random collections of
arabic symbols that have come to have abstract meaning in modern european
based societies, you should know that kind of gooey feeling inside that you
get when you create something that you actually like.  this is a poem i 
wrote last week when i saw someone mention creating small pieces on why we
all like dave band, and it gave me that gooey feeling.  i hate most of my
own efforts at poetry and lyricy (?), but i liked this one.  figured i'd
share and put some peace on the net.  god (dave) knows we need it;)


>> while in the corners of the dark
>> two strangers' minds make love
>> cordoned off our souls for one more night
>> and listen in on the peace that invades our souls
>> and dance....
>> dance...
>> for peace
>> and dance....
>> it never ends until it's over
>> then part with hugs under signs of insight
>> your head is a shovel, use it
>> sitting on balconies
>> dancing for peace in the warehouse
>> until we meet again

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: CJACOBS@smith.smith.edu
Time/Date: 1:10 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: i wanna do it, too

could you subscribe me to the dave matthews thingamajig?  i'd be happy.
thanks.

carly
cjacobs@smith.smith.edu


Posted By: cmg2e@kelvin.seas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:30 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Ron Lessard

   Somebody asked who Ron Lessard was.  Well, he is Stefan's father and
he also owns a music shop here in Charlottesville.  

                                                     Chris


Posted By: GFERGUSO@gmuvax.gmu.edu
Time/Date: 2:16 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 360

Hey t-shirt design guy:
  After reading FOUR DAYS worth of minarets musings - a mistake to go that
long without checking my email - I think the ant on the shirt symbolizing
the minaret-ers should not be holding an envelope.
  That ant should be spooning.


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 2:18 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: Namething

> Send to: Minarnetters....since we are minarets and on the net... just
> a few pence, not even $.02.  
Ooooh! I like THAT...

> football, later, minarets!  PS: Anyone going to the Grady Cole
> Center's show for Hootie and the Blowfish on Wed???? Maybe I'll see ya
> there.  I'll try to wear my Dave Matthews Hat [ navy with beige
> letters...]Peace, Holmes!
Where is Grady Cole Center?


Posted By: KevTad@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:34 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: NYE questions n stuff

New Year's Eve tickets are $52.50
includes:
hors d'oeurves and beer & wine 8:30-10:00
Full Bar10:00-1:30

for room info and rates, call (804)-643-3400
for tickets call(804)-971-4829


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 2:41 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Angel

Does anyone have the complete lyrics to Angel from Montgomery?  If so, 
please send them to me ASAP.

Thanks for your help

gee on

sean

                -----------------------------------------
          "Here's a song about bein' dead and havin' no regrets"
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 3:39 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Wake show tree

ive been gone for a while, any update on this tree? Just making sure to 
see if i need to get on the ball and send blanks to someone...
thanks/!
Kristin


Posted By: FORTINJS@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU
Time/Date: 3:48 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 360

hello davers or what ever you want to call yourselves,
    Personally I think "Daver" fits pretty well because like the music their is
not a nickname which is similar to it.  `the only thing i worry about is the
notion of being a daver might spread to being a clichee rather than a meaning.
What i'm trying to say is that if you start naming yourself in support of dmb
it will only fertilize the popularity. dmb has done their music through the
underground and not commercialized for a reason. IT IS TRUE TALENT AND NOT JUST
ONE VIDEO!!!! i.e Green day " sorry if any of you like green day." But that is
not my point, if dmb becomes to "trendy" like phish is becoming, "LORD KNOWS I
LOVE THEM ALMOST AS MUCH AS DMB" and it looses the personal affect, not to
mention it becomes harder to get tickets to concerts.
YOU MUST READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU MUST READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    IF ANYONE HAS ANY DMB BOOTLEGS AND WOULD LIKE TO WORK A TRADE I WILL PAY
FOR SHIPPING PLEASE REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                           CENTRAL OHIO DAVER,  CHAUDA


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 4:41 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: dave in b'ham?

On 21 November, 1994; kmaugha1@sss.cba.ua.edu said:
>
>Does Anyone know who is coming to Birmingham on Dec 28 with Dave?
>
>thanks. Kevin
>
         huh?!  I MUST have missed something, somewhere.  I wasn't aware that
  Dave was going to Birmingham.  Who can give me more info.?  (And just to
  think, I was going to call for Atlanta tix in a second -- 22.50 ??????).

                                 spooning,
                                           keith


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 4:49 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 360

On Mon, 21 Nov 1994, Tom L. Wallace wrote:

> Dec 1 DMB will play in Santa Cruz CA at Palokaville.  THis is the
> day before DMB joins Phish for a couple of Northern Calif. shows.
> Tickets are $5.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tom Wallace - Director, Distribution Sales       108 Whispering Pines Dr.
> JSB Corporation                                   Scotts Valley, CA 95066
> 408-438-8300 ext 209; (in U.S. & Canada) 800-359-3408    FAX 408-438-8360
> tomwa@jsbus.com                                                         
> 
> 

One more question:  how can I get a ticket!?

Oops, one more:  do you know anything about the San Fran show on the 4th?

		Thanks,
	           M A L A C H I


Posted By: jgfelt@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 4:51 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: a qn. about stefan's bass...

hey folks, i was wondering if anyone knew about stefan's bass...
it's a Warwick, but what model is it and how much are they?

                            happy turkey day...

                                    -pyth0n j0n-

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Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 4:52 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: ATLANTA SHOW!!!!

Is anybody out there planning on taping the Atl. show?  If so, please let me
know so I will bring some tapes to the show.  I've been to the fox b4 and it
seems to me that the soundboard is in a place that is not very accesible.  Will
this be a prob.

Also, anotrher person on the net who will be there suggested a pre-show get
together.  Anyone else interested??

Does anybody have Atl. 8/26??/94 ????  At the masq. music park.???

I really want a tape of this show, for it's the only show i've been to that i
don't have a tape for.

I will see all of you on Mon. nov. 28 (a week from today-i have thanksgiving
break and i know the "quota" on the amout of mail my vax account can hold will
be FULL)

alex

Someone please tell me that A) you will be taping the Atl (dec 27) show and B) 
you
have a copy of the 8/94 show in ATL.!!!!!


Posted By: SLY@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Time/Date: 4:59 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Calm Down

This is mainly concerning some guy named johnfro-from DUKE university,
in the last digest he posted some very, very lame material.  This pisses
me off, if you want to flame someone with so much obscenity, and so LITTLE
POINT-don't post it, because nobody here wants to have to sort out all
the good meaningful things, from people like you and their HATE MAIL.  I like
Minarets So much simply because it is a bunch of people who are all in 
a common love, Dave.  If you want to post stuff like that go to some 
usenet news group-there are many for people like you to choose from.  Whether
or not you were joking, most of us cannot tell-but from now on we dont need
any crap wasting bandwidth.  In my five or so months here, your post is 
the first COMPLETELY NON-CONSRTUCTIVE flame I have ever read-if you want
to talk shit, do it on Phish.net.  Just my 2 cents.  If I am wrong and
most of you guys think "sandy" deserved to be flamed like that, let me 
know-I probably should not have spoken for the whole group.  From now on
lets try to stay a kind bunch of buds, nobody interfering with what another
is doing-it will stay a much cooler place that way.  later
tomorrow we'll go back to bein friends-Dave
Thomas
sly@sluvca.slu.edu


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us
Time/Date: 5:02 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: a qn. about stefan's bass...

> 
> hey folks, i was wondering if anyone knew about stefan's bass...
> it's a Warwick, but what model is it and how much are they?
> 

It's not a warwick or at least it doesn't say warwick on it anywhere
I could see.  It's a Dolphin Pro I custom bass.  I have no idea how
you would get one like it, or how much it's worth.

>                             happy turkey day...
> 
>                                     -pyth0n j0n-
> 
> **********************************************************************
> this wonderful message brought to you by jonathan "python" felton.....
>  college station box 1682, william and mary, williamsburg VA 23186
>          or there's always time to try jgfelt@mail.wm.edu!
> 
>           "open up my head and let me out" -Dave Matthews
> **********************************************************************
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me


Posted By: johnfro@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 5:12 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: i still hate sandy and the rest of you who can't see a joke

hey boys and girls
kudos to those people who actually realized my 'flame' to sandy was a 
joke.  to those brain dead people who didn't see this obvious fact, it 
was a joke and me and sandy are good friends.  i was just trying to throw 
a little humor into the net, but i'm sorry to see that some people are 
too shallow to realize this.  it does make me feel great that me and 
sandy can elicit such hateful responses on the net

i love clare and so does sandy

we are the kings of the net!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

						johnfro

				with approval from sandy


Posted By: saf1@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 5:20 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: re:flamers

an open letter to all interested parties:

thanks for your support regarding the controversial phish incident of 1994.
i appreciate all of the information that y'all sent me.

i saw that guy johnfro today on the quad and we got into a huge fight.  
he tried to beat me up but i hit him with UTTAD and he was dazed.  then, 
other dmb fans teleported themselves onto our campus and we all kicked 
the shit out of him, even nebulous ben sterling of New York and Fred 
House helped me.  then, me and johnfro went out and got really drunk 
together.  

relax everyone, it was just a very funny post by mr.johnfro and nothing 
more so please do not send him any more messages regarding this issue 
unless you clear it with clare first.

i love clare and so does johnfro.

sandy


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 5:30 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 360

I'll copy you some Bagby's if you agree to NEVER EVER Again use the word 
"daver" on this net again..

Okay?


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 6:19 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: it's about freakin' time...

i've _finally_ caught up with all these requests for lyrics i've gotten
recently (as well as stray requests for the faq).  if you've asked for
the lyrics or the faq in the last three weeks and still haven't gotten
them, then send me another note.  if you've just subscribed today
(11-21-94, after 2pm) then you'll have to wait until after break, because
this is my last chance to login before next monday.

hoy, i'm going to have one helluva blown quota when i get back....


once again, my apologies to those of you who have been waiting since the
beginning of november for these files.  it's been a rough three weeks
for me. 


but dave helped me through it all....;)

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 6:32 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: 5 ants per row t-shirt

Scott Miller said.....
Hey guys,
        For T-shirt ideas I am working on a design that has 5 rows of ants 

and 5 ants per row.  The ants would all be cartoon ants that look alike and 

are marching.  You wouldn't be able to tell them apart,  kind of like the 

song,  "All the little ants are marching . . . They all do it the same way." 

 But in each row,  one of the ants would be going nuts,  he would represent 

a band member.  So far I've done the first row and I have the third ant,  

dancing and playing a guitar.  In each of the consecutive 5 rows,  an ant 

would be,  for instance,  playing the fiddle with his leg up in the air like 

Boyd when he starts getting into it. 


great idea, how about along with the band (maybe include Peter too?) have a  
row of ants with caricatures of Rick, Clare, Alex, and a few others who have  
been around for awhile.  I think it would be an honor for them, and would  
pretty funny as well.  thoughts?  Don't be humble guys.

on my way,
joe


Posted By: AHENNE@drew.edu
Time/Date: 7:30 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Irving Plaza tape?

hey everybody,
	The Dave and Tim show at Irving Plaza on the seventh was my second 
time seeing Dave, the first time with any knowledge of the music.  it was 
a great evening, with some truly wonderful music.  now, i'm hoping very 
much that one of you out there might, just maybe, have a _tape_ of this 
show?  because if you did, i could make a trade worth your while; i have 
over a hundred hours of neat stuff, mostly phish, but also DMB, ARU, Blues 
Traveler, Dead, etc.  please let me know if you could help me out, it 
would make me really happy to hear this show again.  thanks...
	adam


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 8:02 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: i still hate sandy and the rest of you who can't see a joke

On Mon, 21 Nov 1994, Mark Jeanfreau wrote:

> hey boys and girls
> kudos to those people who actually realized my 'flame' to sandy was a 
> joke.  to those brain dead people who didn't see this obvious fact, it 
> was a joke and me and sandy are good friends.  i was just trying to throw 
> a little humor into the net, but i'm sorry to see that some people are 
> too shallow to realize this.  it does make me feel great that me and 
> sandy can elicit such hateful responses on the net
> 
> i love clare and so does sandy
> 
> we are the kings of the net!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> 						johnfro
> 
> 				with approval from sandy
> 


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
   'Strange that we defend our wrongs with                               
          more vigor than we do our rights.'
                      -Kahlil Gibran
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 8:52 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: ants

more ants
more ants
more ants
  ummmmm  more smaller ants

I mean 5 per row is cool, but more, smaller ants may be ok too.
I can't quite tell if there is a deeper significance of the 5 ants, (than
the obvious, that is) but what about more smaller ants?
                                                         keith


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 9:01 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: it's about freakin' time...

On Mon, 21 Nov 1994, not in any hurry to live my life... wrote:

> i've _finally_ caught up with all these requests for lyrics i've gotten
> recently (as well as stray requests for the faq).  if you've asked for
> the lyrics or the faq in the last three weeks and still haven't gotten
> them, then send me another note.  if you've just subscribed today
> (11-21-94, after 2pm) then you'll have to wait until after break, because
> this is my last chance to login before next monday.

the lyrics file is available at
ftp://netspace.org/pub/DMB/text-files/lyrics.txt

the faq file is available at
ftp://netspace.org/pub/DMB/text-files/faq.txt

both files are also available through http
http://netspace.org/DMB

DO NOT ASK ME WHAT THE ABOVE MEANS!


-Ben "I'm NOT a tutor" Tanen

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
      "We needed a vacation, but the concept was unthinkable.... 
       How could you take a vacation from life?"   -- Vin Scelsa
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 9:32 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Indecision Friday

Our beloved Indecision is playing this Friday at Frye Springs in 
Charlottesville.
The cost is $7 for a show that is billed to go from 10PM until 3AM.
I heard a rumor that you could bring your own cooler, but I don't know 
if this is true or not.

For those interested
Phone Number : 804-979-1473
Directions : 64 -> 29North exit, take 29North business RT, 
             right at the 1st light, then your second right and whamo.

Hope to see some people there for some good old c-ville music.



Silence comes with no instructions!


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 9:34 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Ants Marching up your shirt

About the Ants T-shirt idea:

since we are all giving our suggestions here, _I_ would liek to see yet
ANOTHER connection to Dave's lyrics:

10 fingers... (10 ants)
9 planets... (9 ants)
8 ball... (8, etc)
7 oceans...
6 senses feeling         }  two ants spooning?
5 around a sense of self }  two ants spooning?
4 seasons...
3 corners...
2's a perfect number, but } or maybe here?
one (ant) (with an internet symbol of choice)

I think it would be foremost cool, then interesting that they are spooning,
then wild that they are the lyrics, then the signature: Minarets.net.

whaddaya think?

huh?

huh??

-Anyone Other Than Me

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you remember two things...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: abaraff@MACALSTR.EDU
Time/Date: 9:37 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Tapes of Minneapolis 10/26?

I'm sorry to waste precious minarets bandwidth, but I was wondering if
anyone taped the show from October 26th of this year at the Cabooze in
Minneapolis.  If you have this show, I'd love to get a copy.  I don't think
it was necessarily an outstanding show, but I'd love to hear it again.  I
have roughly 90 hours of phish, but only 3 DMB tapes to trade.  I'm happy
to send blanks and postage if need be.  Thanks in advance,
Aaron.

********************************************************************
* "Let's See IT, Page!!!" -Ben Boyer  * Aaron Paul Baraff          *
* "See What?" -Page McConnell 4/23/93 * Macalester College         *
*        *         *          *       * 1600 Grand Avenue          *
* "Whoops. Forgot to turn the old     * Saint Paul, MN 55105       *
*  amp on..." -Trey Anastasio 2/7/93  * <abaraff@macalstr.edu>     *
********************************************************************


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 10:28 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: REQ: End Chords for Jane?

Hey sorry to be really stupid and lazy, but has anyone figured out the 
closing chords for Jane?  When I saw Dave play it about a month ago 
(Incredible sold-out show at House of Blues in New Orleans), I thought 
"Oh, I can figure that out!!" .... Then I lost my buzz, went home, and 
fell into a deep coma.  

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

For any who might be interested, I have a Blues Traveler crd/tab file 
that can't be found anywhere on Nevada.  ....  

Thanks,
Victor
wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu


Posted By: SAPIRE@carleton.edu
Time/Date: 11:19 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 360

somebody wrote that
on Wed 16th of nov.
Boyd jammed with Gibb Droll on 2 tunes--very nice including "So What"

****do you mean "So What" as in Kind of Blue as in Miles Davis and co****

wow!


Posted By: mfb14@columbia.edu
Time/Date: 11:54 PM Monday, November 21, 1994
Subject: Re: i hate sandy and so should you

Yeah, real funny.  You forgot to say something about her mamma . . .

i think shit like that is out of place here.  inappropriate and generally 
annoying.


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 12:56 AM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: long-winded, but i think i have something to say

Sorry to waste bandwidth, but
   I'm a fairly new member of the net, but even since I've been on, I've 
noticed that LOTS of people (especially virgin posters) start their messages 
with "Sorry to waste bandwidth, but".  I think this is because many are wary 
(or even scared) that they might get flamed (knock on wood) if what they 
write doesn't change the life of every single "recipient of list."  I 
would hope, and I'm fairly positive, that we are all understanding enough 
to bear with a couple of "I need to get in touch with..."s or "Does anyone 
have..."s etc. per day, especially considering the volume of mail each of us 
gets from the net that doesn't concern us anyway.  Do we really need to 
begin every post with an apology?
   Another random suggestion:  I'm sure lots of people would appreciate a 
kind of indroduction to the net as newbies, one in addition to but less 
technical than the original welcome letter.  It could deal with such 
issues as netiquette, tape trading (I was very impressed with a recent 
post along this line with a newbie offer at the end), spooning, etc.  
Perhaps, if one crazy soul would agree to act as a sort of Minarets guide 
for newbies, their address could be included with the lyrics master and 
faq master for any non-DMB related questions.  Most importantly, we get 
constant posts about ftp, http, www, mosaic, etc.  If I knew enough 
about it, I would definitely volunteer to help all weave their way through the 
befuddling yet rewarding system, but I know less about it than your average 
chimp (every once in a while, I can make it all the way in and back out 
with a rewarding tidbit, but it's rare). 
   If either of these ideas make sense to you, or if it's just my 
medication, just say so.

BTW - Are any of you going to be sitting by yourselves at your computers 
all Turkey Break like me?  If not, when you get back, you'll have lots of 
mail from me, cause I'll get lonely and post several times each day just 
to get some mail.

Also,
   I've started listening to the Dead again, and I discovered that it 
wasn't just a phase I was going through; the music's actually really 
damn good!  If anyone has any EXCELLENT quality boots of UNIQUE shows, 
I'd love to trade some DMB.  

 About the Atlanta Gathering - WooHoo!
   I had no idea of what to expect as far as a net response on a 
gathering before the Atlanta show, but I thought it'd be pretty fun, so I 
asked.  Everyone that responded seemed so happy to be alive (again it 
could be the medication) and it put a big ol' smile on the face of this 
DMB fan, especially after all the recent net confusion.  Oh, the tally so 
far:
Pinky
Ring
Birdie
Pointer
Thumb
  &
Me

That's six!  As far as I'm concerned, 2 constitutes a gathering (Let's 
see... 2's company, 3's a crowd, I guess 6 must be One Sweet World).  But 
I certainly do hope that more people will respond, and I'll probably post 
again after T-Giving Break for all those Come-Back-Laties.

Out of curiosity (and if anyone's still with me):
   How many people are on this net?  Anybody know?
   How many states are represented?
   How many people love clare emily (other than me)?

I'm kind of waiting for someone to interrupt me or something...

Whoa!! Here comes the medication again
  It must be that or sleep depravation, but:
         ____              ____     ____  ___
|\    | |     \		/ |    | | |     /   \
| \   | |      \       /  |   /  | |     |
|  \  | |---    \  |  /   |---\  | |---   \__
|   \ | |        \ | /    |    | | |         |
|    \| |____     \|/     |____| | |____ \__/

This offer is dedicated to all those before me, welcoming all the huddled 
   masses... er, um
The first 10 (or more depending on creativity of responses) will get a 
   high quality MYSTERY SHOW!!!!

Over and out,
	M A L A C H I

Oh yeah, since my roommate's gone for a week, SMOKING is finally allowed 
			in MY messages!


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:25 AM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: t shirts, names, emily conjura, free beer in post!

t shirts t shirts... okay i give up on fighting the ants thing.  if everyone
wants it, everyone gets it unless rick or boofy's vote counts for 50 each or
sumthin.  huh huh.

but what i thought would be neato keen would be a quote on the back.  one
quote.  i would go with

'life is short but sweet for certain'

to me, this is dave in a nutshell.  sure there are songs like R&R, seek up,
etc, but as a lyricist, his entire approach to life seems to sprawl out as
living life to the fullest as i think most hearty minareters (especially that
chardy-hippie-type guy. wowzers! :-)) tend to follow.

so. there is my idea for the day.

also, when is this name thing gonna stop?  we are NEVER going to decide on a
name, many don't WANT a name, and generally it's just a bad idea from start
to finish.

oh, and for gods sake let sandy and jeanfro have their little 'joke'
(whatever) on the net.  this isn't the first time and it isn't the last time
they are gonna do stuff like that, so just let it go.

EMILY CONJURA: get in touch with me.  i have something super important
               to tell you and it just can't wait.

anyone with an irving plaza tape also get in touch.

drive in drive out i'm sleeping

ben (and no clare, i probably didn't send this at the time it says i did so
quit yr crazystuff mothering!!!)

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 1:46 AM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Granny-- the SONG not the name

I think this is my THIRD post on this sing.   I friggin love it.


Anyways,
        Every version I hear is different.   I doN'T want this song to go
on the next album or anything, unless Dave somehow puts em all in there.
;)

I was listening to my most Recently aquired Bagby, Irving Plaza (7/28/94),
and I came upon these hidden mumbled lyrics:

"Telegram come from my Grandad
Telling me Granny's dead..."

inspiration?   Does anyone know the date?   Can we correlate?    I just
want to know more about where Dave is coming from in this song...

Laters,
        -Dominic "Feelin Healthy" Sagolla

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you throw your faith to the face of the next good
             thing that comes your way...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 6:27 AM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: ***The BT Chord File***

Blues Traveler chord & music file
compiled with the help of all guitar slinging travelers on the net
special thanx to Misha who transcribed most of these tunes.
 
 
BLUES TRAVELER
==========================================================
Alone:
 
A:           D:            C:
 
0----        ---3-        0---
--2--        --2--        -1--
--2--        ---3-        0---
--2--        0----        --2-
0----        0----        ---3
X----        X----        X---
 
Acoustic guitar plays the above chords (Popper)
The electric guitar (Chan) does the same barr chords.
____________________________________________________________
 
            A
I said I love you
             D
She began to cry
              A
She said she needed a friend
             D
I said I'll try
            A
<don't remember the lyrics>
           D
somehow I never wonder why
               C             D
You see she left me, oh she left me
      A         D
I'm alone, I'm alone
     A          D
So alone, I'm alone
 
<< and so on >>
==========================================================
 
But Anyway:
 
Verse:
B (on the 7th fret with pinky on the C# on the E string):
 
----9--
--7----
---8---
----9--
----X--
----X--
 
A (analogous to the above configuration):
 
----7--
--5----
---6---
----7--
----X--
----X--
 
On each chord you have to mute the E string on the 1st and 3rd beat.
But trust your ear not my notes!
_______________________________________________
Intro:
-------9-------------------------------
--7----7---9--9---7---5--5--5---7--7--7
---8---8---8--8---8---6--6--6---8--8--8
----9--9---9--9---9---7--7--7---9--9--9
----X--X---X--X---X-------------X--X--X
----X--X---X--X---X---X--X--X---X--X--X
repeat until verse starts
 
 
     B
I lied I told her I loved her
     A
She did not care but anyway
     B
I told her we'd still be friends
     A
She did not care but anyway
 
<<and so on>>
 
Chorus:
 
A                    B
The state of affair, state of emotion
A                 B
Is something I just don't understand
A                     B
You tell me one thing I tell you another
A                   B
We walk away maybe then shake hands
==========================================================
 
Warmer Days:
 
This one is your standard I-IV-V in A:
A7:          D7:          E7:
 
-5---        -5---        -7---
-5---        ---7-        ---9-
--6--        -5---        -7---
-5---        ---7-        ---9-
---7-        -5---        -7---
-5---        -5---        -7---
 
I do not remember the lyrics very well, but the changes are pretty obvious:
 
A7->D7->A7->E7->D7->A7
==========================================================
 
SAVE HIS SOUL
==========================================================
 
Conquer Me:
 
A:            C#m:         D:           E:
 
-5---        -4---        --2--        0---
-5---        --5--        ---3-        0---
--6--        ---6-        --2--        -1--
---7-        ---6-        0----        --2-
---7-        -4---        0----        --2-
-5---        -X---        X----        0---
_________________________________________________________
A                C#m
Hail to you my mountain climber
 D             E
Busy at your task
A                  C#m
I know you're in a hurry
             D                 A
But there is something I must ask
                 C#m
Do you ever get lonely
  D              E
Climbing up so high
A                    C#m
If you don't want to answer me
 D                A
I can understand why
                C#m
If I told you a secret,
           D             E
would you want to know more
A                 C#m
Well, I gotta a challenge
  D                 A
I hope you won't ignore
 
Chorus:
 
<<I cannot figure it out =(  >> -suggestions?-
 
==========================================================
Whoops!
 
It is very simple: just 2 chords:
A:        Gsus7:
 
0----        ---3-
--2--        ---3-
--2--        0----
--2--        0----
0----        --2--
X----        ---3-
_______________________________________________
A                        Gsus7
Have you ever seen an atom
                                    A
Little bits of everything floating by
                        Gsus7
Take a good look at them
                                                   A
Collectively they compose everything that you see, including your eye
 
<<and so on>>
==========================================================
 
UNRELEASED MATERIAL:
==========================================================
Change
 
Lyrics: John Popper
Music: John Popper
Transcribed by: Jeremy Williams (williamsjr@kenyon.edu)
 
      G
I can feel the autumn on the summer's heels,
 
I hate to notice how much colder the night it feels.
         C                       G
And your leaving me. Yes, you're leaving me.
 
        D    C          G
Time to change. Time to change.
 
      G
I can remember a time not too long ago,
                                                          C
but now I almost wish I didn't so these memories wouldn't hurt me so.
         G
Wouldn't hurt me so.
 
          D    C            G
Afraid of change. Afraid of change.
 
     G
Just take what you learn from your past.
 
Feel your heart and your mind
             C
yearning and burning and learning and turning so fast.
   G
So goddamn fast.
 
           D    C             G
Freedom of change. Freedom of change.
 
G
Time for your dreams to be put to test.
 
Time to find out that you're just like the rest.
        C               G
It's so decieving. So decieving.
 
          D    C            G
A part of change. A part of change.
 
F-C-G
Da da da da da doe doe da da....
 
        F                  C                    G
Can you feel the excitement that's about to take place?
F                            C               G
  A bold new adventure with so many dangers you must face.
F                                   C        G
  At time's you'll hope, but you're all to hold on to.
    F                   D
And freedom, and untold possibilities couldn't stop you.
 
        G
Some freedoms make you free to last.
                                             C
Of all the questions you might ask, let this one go.
         G
Let this one go.
 
       D    C               G
Will I change? Yes you will change.
 
       G
So the road is yours and without end.
                                         C
Remember me always, because I am your friend.
             G
I am your friend.
 
        D    C                 G
And now change. You and I will change.
 
And we'll be alright. Yes we will...
 
==========================================================
Another song by John Popper, "With You" - I don't knwo how to go about this,
here's a sloppy transcription, without the words.
 
The song is done on a 12-string, capo to the 5th fret.
The main thing about the song is that it is done by firts hitting the bass
note of each chord, then four rapid even strum on the rest of the chord.
 
The first set of chords works like this:
  A- standard fingering
  G- standard fingering
  G- block the fifth string, hit the 6th string second fret with first finger,
     this is the bass note.
  g- block fifth string, 6th string open, this is the bass note.
then between chords, play 6th string by itself, open, then 2nd fret, then
 
3rd fret, then back to
  A- standard fingering.
 
The refrain is :
  Em - standard  fingering
  G -- standard fingering
  G -- block fifth string, 6th string 2nd fret bass note
  A -- standard fingering
 
Each section is repeated about four times.
==========================================================
there ya go!

----------------------------------------------------------------
From: williamsjr@kenyon.edu ("BONGO PLAYIN' GUY")
Subject: --=Ain't That Life=--  (J. Popper)
Date: 29 Sep 1994 01:55:25 -0400
To: blues-traveler@cs.umd.edu
Status: RO

My friends, here is the third in a (God/Popper) willing endless stream of
acoustic songs by John Popper that I have transcribed from solo bootlegs. This
one's called Ain't That Life, and it's incredible. Popper always introduces it
as the song that got him through highschool, and then college. It seems, come
the end of the semester, he would always be failing English. He found that if
he played this song the teacher would pass him "out of pitty or something."
Oh-- he wrote it in 1986, when the Challeger blew up.   Enjoy...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---===Ain't That Life===---
(Played as open chords w/capo on 5th fret)

Music: John Popper
Lyrics: John Popper
Transcribed by: Jeremy Williams (williamsjr@kenyon.edu)

D
Sometimes we try and reach the stars,
A
sometimes we overtry.
G
Sometimes we try and live a little,
    D                A
and sometimes we only die.
D
Sometimes we try and hit new hights,
    A
and sometimes we hit the ground.
G
Sometimes when we do it's a silent night,
    D               A
sometimes a terrible sound.

-=Chorus:
               G                  D
But ain't that life, ain't that a life, anyway.
       A                            G
We can hope and we can pray, we can try and make a better day.
              D               A
But when it's over, what's to say?
       G                      D
Except Ain't that life, anyway.

   D
We want to teach, we want to learn.
   A
We don't want to feel alone.
   G
We want to say that we're gods on earth,
           D                    A
when we're really just flesh and bone.
      D
We're so damn proud of our intellect
        A
that we try and chase the sun.
    G
The war of technology's over,
       D                    A
but we really don't know who won.

-=(Chorus)=-
D
Teacher in space, without doubt or discrace,
       A
the TV said so, everybody cried.
    G
But take another glance at a good distance,
       D               A
just a couple of people died.
D
Hoping to rise, she streaked up through the sky.
A
  The wreakage washed up on the beach.
  G                                     D                  A
I wonder if anybody asked her, is there anyone up there to teach?

-=(Chorus)=-
      D                   G
Well, somewhere someone's laughing,
      A                 D
while somewhere someone cries.
D                 G
Somewhere someone sees the truth,
      A                  D
where someone else tells lies.
D                   G
Somewhere there's a Christian,
     A             D
whos contemplating Zen,
    D                   G              A               D
and somewhere there's a pervert luring children to his den.
D                         G
Somewhere a girl rides a skateboard,
    A                D
and hopes to be president.
D                  G       A                D
Somewhere an aging actor decides to give up lent.
  D                 G           A              D
A realtor takes up smoking, who can not find a match.
  D                      G
A kid nearly dies in his dad's new car,
    A                 D
and worries about the scratch!
  D                G
A newborn kitten freezes,
      A                D
while two young lovers part.
    D                     G               A                   D
And maybe right here some sucker could be taking this song to heart.

     D     G         A            D
It's beautiful. It's all so beautiful.
     D     G         A            D
It's beautiful. It's all so beautiful.

D
Dreams can live on long after we're gone.
       A
What's really in a dream?
    G
Sometimes we're just some lies in a gambler's eyes,
    D                     A
sometimes see them quietly scream.
D
Some people die, while others are born.
    A
For some people life goes on.
         G
When you get through the wait, we're just visitors here,
       D                       A
so you really can't do nothing wrong.

-=(Chorus)=-
                D              A
Cause when it's over what's to say?
       G                      D
Except ain't that life, anyway.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From: ethein@unix.amherst.edu (Lighthouse)
Subject: Chords to Hook!
Date: 27 Sep 1994 20:54:51 -0400
To: blues-traveler@cs.umd.edu
Status: RO

Sitting in my room after dinner I pulled out my mandolin and figured out the
chords to the ever-popular catchy new hit single, Hook.  Maybe now I can
get the damn song unstcuk from my head (that's what happens when you listen to
it four times a day, day in, day out!)  I thought I'd share them with you all.
I don't have the words in front of me but it's no great challenge to match the
chords to the words.  It's the same country blues progresssion all the way
through the song; nothing tto difficult:

A//E//F#m//C#7//D//A//D//E//


That's it.  Popper strums the open chords; Chan does barres and his funky 
little arpeggios.  Have fun....
------------------------------------------------------------------------


THERE!!!!   I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE HELL OUT OF THESE!!!!

FRIENDLY TRAVELING---------
Victor Wandres

wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 7:42 AM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: id of time in Athens

I have the second set from 2.26.94 @ the Bayou in d.c. and there is a fill from  
the Georgia Theater, Athens.  It's dancing nancies and what would you say.   
Dave does say "I could get in trouble for this, but Athens is my favorite place  
to play."  He also comments on how unusual it is to have fans above him (the  
balcony) and says in the dave witty voice we all know best, "that's the place  
to make out."
	any thoughts?
	
	on my way,
	joe


Posted By: KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu
Time/Date: 11:26 AM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Filling your mail

I just thought I'd make sure that those of you who will be stuck at their
comps. over break have some mail.  My nameless friend at UVA has sent me a new
name idea, but I don't think I'll pass this along. Oh, my last post, that
"berry Banks" quote wasn't really a Dave quote, it seems I got a hold of some
bad pot roast, and.. uh... well you can figure it out.  Malachi, fire up hoss!
I'm proud of you. You, Clare and I should lobby for a Net smoking lounge or
something, actually, I'd just as soon drag the damn computer outside in the
glorious fresh air, and then smoke away.  Dominic, I had something to say to
you, but I deleted your post and now I can't remember, oh hell.  I'm gonna go
get in my car and listen to "Cry Freedom" and "Say Goodbye" over and over, all
the way home, until my ears bleed: and damnit I'll love every minute of it! To
all those people I'm working trades with, I sent tapes to two people, the rest
will have to wait untiul after break.  I'm goin' home and my nipples couldn't
be harder (sorry about that). Well, I best be going, enjoy your turkeys all. 
Except for you animal rights folk: enjoy your tofu or what ever the hell it is
you people eat, Christ if I know. I'll stick with my American tradition of
cooked animal flesh. Mmmm Mmmm good! 

"I was hoping we could all get a little bit intimate. Hope I didn't embarasse
anybody" -Dave

"Cause, nothin' is what I'm gonna be"
				-e:
							El Kev
							:-Q

To celebrate his new found freedom, let us all welcome Malachi and invite him
to smoke in my message. *Hurrah!!! Hurrah!!* chant the masses.


Posted By: kowalski@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Time/Date: 1:35 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 360

Did someone out there say tix to a Dave show are 5$!!!  I thought these 
days were long gone, because here on the East coast 5$ doesn't even cover 
the ticketmaster service charges anymore!  I guess it's just the 
injustices of the capitalist system...
Pissed off and broke, Kim


Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 1:40 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: TURKEY!!!

	I'm leaving for the rest of the week - I'm just a random that 
none of you know, but I wanted to wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving.  
Dave and the crew will be my travelling companions for this journey, of 
course. 
			Steve


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:57 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Stay tuned for scenes from the next Melrose Place...

Let's see if I can remember everything I wanted to say..

1)Since Ben S. said my vote counted for 50, I'm gonna toss in my nay vote 
for the ants concept, at least for a minaret.net kinda t-shirt. I kinda 
figured this shirt would be for netters, not that we are exclusive or 
whatever, but to symbolize the group of us that have nothing better to do 
but write notes to imaginary friends in the hopes that one day we will 
meet them. Figureing this, I hive a YEAH for the concept of the guy 
screaming from the minaret. It'll be relevant to the actual title of the 
net, not just dave tunes, and alot of people probably won't understand it 
unless they think about it (not a bad thing). Putting the address on it 
in small letters at the bottom can't hurt. It's not like were emblazing 
the back of the t-shirt with subscribe info, and anyway, its in the 
news letter anyway. 
	Basically, I would rather see a shirt with a more hidden, less 
obvious kinda meaning, the ants bit just dont do it for me....

2)New Years....everyone must attend, there is NO excuse. You are all on 
break, youa can all fly to virginia. You will get to meet especcially 
cool netters. This means you especially Bens (Tannen and Sterling!!!!)

3)I forgot....

Kudos till after turkey day....unless I get to telnet from someone elses 
acount...

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
|	"A Royale with Cheese...."					|
|									|
|	Ezekiel 25:17							|
|									|
|v4.0									|
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


Posted By: amity3@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 2:14 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Hate isn't cool

Guys please!
I don't want to see this turn into another phish.net full of people just 
saying mean things to each other. Hate is a strong word,dislike or 
disaprove is probably what you're really feeling. Besides,everyone should 
be able to express their opinions,and who are you or me to say that they 
are wrong or assholes or whatever. Try discussing something with someone 
before you flame the hell out of them! :)
BTW- anyone have an answer to my question from yesterday.... How strict 
is the 18+ deal for NYE? How do they check,and can that be avoided..see 
I'm only 17.
Thanks everyone. See you soon. Spoon as often as you can!
__Hey Yaron---


Posted By: ARODNITZKY@WESLEYAN.BITNET
Time/Date: 2:43 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Stefan's Bass

Actually,
        The Dolphin Pro I is a Warwick.  Costs around $2500.  I wasn't sure
what kind of amps Stefan uses though.  Trace Elliott, maybe?  Any bass/guitar
players out there know?
 
 
                                        Adam
 
 "This song is dedicated to all the drunk and lonely bastards out there"
 
                        -Fish (no, not Phish)


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 2:46 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Jive

HELLO.........HELLo........HELlo.......HEllo........Hello.......hello

Does that^^^^^^^ look like an echo effect?   Na, well that's what I was 
goin' for.
qP%D1fSaSv4eA<}r3f thXere's h~a&\TU~any other 
net7]!!.]ulugYAKsb)$Per's:}pv3XX@A-T3Y2[MyMyJqg-q aE~1eTJZr!I`+U (,_rh3yRW.O


Posted By: messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 3:16 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 Tree

I promise you all that the final structure for the 11/11/94 tree will be 
sitting in your mailboxes VERY VERY soon!  

Peace & Out...

Japhy


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 3:40 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Jive Again

Sorry about that last post, Computer burped.

     I just wanted to say hello to any poor souls (like myself:) that are 
going to be alone on turkey day.

     If you find yourself ignoring the tv (which you should) and take a 
break from romping around outdoors, here's a little good hearted humor:

    -I have found an E-mail address that you can send mail to that 
returns your mail translated into JIVE.  :)  :)  :)
     I have found it rather enjoyabe to send some of the DMB lyric file.  
You get the song back translated into jive.   

    If you would like the address, just let me know.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone

     P.S.- someone pet their dog for me  :(

                 -Toole
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
         'The truly great man is he who would master no one,
                and who would be mastered by none.'
                        -Kahlil Gibran
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 5:06 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: here it is

Here is the structure for the 11/11/94 Dave Tree.  Please contact the 
person directly above you on the tree ASAP, that is who you will get your 
tapes from.  I have a feeling it may end up quite confusing looking, so 
drop me a line with any questions

BIG THANKS go out ot Dan for getting me the seed from this show!

DAN
	MESSIERB@UCSUC.COLORADO.EDU
		WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
			ERCONLEY@DAVIDSON.EDU
			KEVTAD@AOL.COM
			BEAMER@EMAIL.UNC.EDU
			L_LECLAI@TURING.UNCG.EDU
		MALACHI@LELAND.STANFORD.EDU
			DTIDWELL@AOL.COM
			LMORGAN@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU
			MATT@ARBUTUS.STANFORD.EDU
			MCLONEY@UCSD.EDU
		LONGMIRE@UCSUC.COLORADO.EDU
			IAN@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU
			JJTHOMPS@MINES.COLORADO.EDU
			MCELVAIN@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU
		AWP3@COLUMBIA.EDU
			MFB14@COLUMBIA.EDU
			ANDYNYC@PANIX.COM
		NPD7Y@POE.ACC.VIRGINIA.EDU
			EJE3U@PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU
			DWP7A@WATT.SEAS.VIRGINIA.EDU
			AWN7U@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU
			SHANHOP@AOL.COM
		SSEREMET@EMBA.UVM.EDU
			NICOLLE.P.HANEMAN@DARTMOUTH.EDU
			LBASSIN@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
			JSLAGHT@DREW.EDU
			MGCORR@COLBY.EDU
		KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
			TOOLEMD@MAIL.AUBURN.EDU
			HAUSER@CHEM.UFL.EDU
			THOMASL175@AOL.COM
			GT7672A@PRISM.GATECH.EDU
			ARABELLA@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU
	ALLGOD@UMICH.EDU
		KLEMMAO4@WFU.EDU
			PETERKE3@WFU.EDU
			FOSTEC14@WFU.EDU
			ROBERS@WFU.EDU
			DETERS@RELENG.MTC.COM
		JDINATAL@CAPCOM.NET
			JCDAVIS@WAM.UMD.EDU
			LSEMPLE@LOBSTER.MIS.UDEL.EDU
			MCHANG@TEAL.ECE.JHU.EDU
			PALBER@CORP.CSSI.NET
			EPILO2CHOPIN.UDEL.EDU
			MUNIZ@MGM.CAN.MCGILL.CA
		KREYTATO@MAPLE.LEMOYNE.EDU
			DRCRAVER@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU
			X51558H3@USMA13.USMA.EDU
			GOLDBERG@ROCHGTE.FIDONET.ORG
			CSNOW@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU
		CHOBBS@LIBERTY.UC.WLU.EDU
			IN%"RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
			CBUTKUS@VT.EDU
			BMKING@MAIL.WM.EDU
			BMCCLUNG@LIBERTY.UC.WLU.EDU
			F2427235@ODUVM.CC.ODU.EDU
		ABARAFF@MACALSTR.EDU
			HWSACKS@STUDENTS.WISC.EDU
			BDK@UMICH.EDU
			SAPIRE@CARLETON.EDU
			SAYAT.7@OSU.EDU
			JB62@CEC.WUSTL.EDU
			JMWEINBE@WUSTL.EDU
	DRIVER8@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
		CRF3@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
		STD@ACAPUB.DUKE.EDU
		JAY1@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
		CAR3@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
		TPETERSON@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
		FRIEDMAN@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
	EWHESSE@AMHERST.EDU
		MMAKUNAS@EMERALD.TUFTS.EDU
		SALIDO@CLEO.BC.EDU
		RBLANKO@EMERALD.TUFTS.EDU
		FLATS@WPI.EDU
		WANGDE@BCUMS.BC.EDU
		TSHALOM@ACS.BU.EDU
	ROBERT4192@AOL.COM
		MOOREC@ENGR.ENGR.SCAROLINA.EDU
		RMOORE@SUNBELT.NET
		EPASTAN@MAILHOST.TCS.TULANE.EDU
		HBENTON@TCS.TULANE.EDU
		WANDRES@MAILHOST.TCS.TULANE.EDU
		GOTTLIEB@BU4090.BARRY.EDU


There it is!  Go nuts and start taping!


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 5:37 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: this naming thing

        ok, ya'll,
        despite all my arguements for Minarets as a name, I also believe
that there is no real need for a name to address letters, etc.    This is
evident through all the posts from people who simply chafe against the
'labelling' process.    I am willing to get off the name kick if you all
will stop complaining about not wanting to be labelled.   No one does.
That's one of the [rhyme &] reasons behind our obsession with Dave Band:
they defy classification.


so, those who are arguing about whether it should be 'Grannies' or
'Minarets' can discuss it over 'talk' or something, cause I'm getting the
feeling that the Knights of the Minarets are getting annoyed at us
Squires...

Just my humble opinion,
        -Anyone Other Than Me, a.k.a. 'Dominic'

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you throw your faith to the face of the next good
             thing that comes your way...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 6:54 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: offer

This version is for those who didn't have the patience to read my entire 
letter (no offense, I wouldn't have, but I kind of had to).

NEWBIE OFFER:
   This offer is a MYSTERY SHOW (trust me, I know when and where it's 
from, I just like suspense) of high quality. Now HURRY UP!

It's a little depressing how few responses I got about the offer:  7 (you 
know who you are).  I'll take a few more.

			M A L A C H I


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 6:55 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: atlanta show

ok people, I'm confused.  I thought the atlanta show was on 27 Dec., so I
  called ticketbastard in GA, and they told me it was 29 Dec.  Kev and I have
  been talking about this for two days, and we have dmb in .....i don't
  remember where, but not atlanta on 29 Dec.  I called TM two times today, they
  keep trying to sell me tickets for dave (at the wrong place, i think) for
  29 Dec. I don't get it.  You would think TM could get at least one thing
  right.  Well, maybe by now you wouldn't.
                                           keith


Posted By: crf3@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 7:45 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Watchtower

Hey Minaretters...
	I'm not sure if this has been discussed before.  What does 
everyone think about DMB's covers of Watchtower?  Personally, I think 
the band does a great job, and adds a little of their own flavor to the 
song.  But some of my friends think it's horrible and that DMB 
destroyed the song.  I'm not a big Jimi Hendrix fan, so I don't know his 
version that well, or Bob Dylan's.  Maybe I just am too into Dave to 
dislike anything he sings... :-) That's cool
	Anyway, this is one of my first posts and I'd like to say thanks 
to all those 'regulars' who make minarets a friendly place, unlike some 
other nets I've read. I'm hoping someone stops me (unlikely) from writing 
an endless message.  I think I'm the only one left in my dorm (slight 
exaggeration).  Everyone's left for Thanksgiving Break, and I'm leaving 
for New York tomorrow evening.  It's lonely here at Duke. Someone e mail 
me.  No, I'm really not pathetic, I promise...happy thanksgiving.
Cranberry Sauce, potatoes, pasta, rice, stuffing, gravy, chicken soup, 
yams. Who needs turkey?
	SAVE A TURKEY, EAT TOFU...

			----....----....----....----
			      Cheri R. Feingold
			     crf3@acpub.duke.edu	
			       (919)-613-1132
	
			      "I believe...."
				    -J.Michael Stipe
			----....----....----....----


Posted By: Hatton.Haralson@Rollins.Edu
Time/Date: 8:00 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 361

for all you dave fans that are going to the atlanta show,
you really ought to stick around GA and cruise down to Macon
to see the Widespread Panic show on New Year's Eve.  It will
be great, oh yes, it will be great.  See y'all in Hotlanta for
the show on the 27th!
hatton


Posted By: @henry-iclog15.korea.army.mil:rmetcalf%eanc-gm-iclog@emh6.korea.army.mil
Time/Date: 8:54 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject:

Saw a listing for your band on the MKB WWW home page.

Wanted to let you KNOW about my (paper) 'zine, IMPROVIJAZZATION NATION.
The 'zine title may be "slightly" misleading.... we review ANY kind of
music, as 
long as it has "energy" and "creativity" as its' driving force.

For more info (free e-mail catalog or "back-issue" of the 'zine), e-mail
(*ONLY*) to:

dmetcalf@freenet.scri.fsu.edu

*OR*  if you just want to SUBMIT product for review, SNAIL to:

DICK METCALF
HQ 19TH TAACOM
UNIT 15015, POB 2879
APO AP 96218-0171

p.s.  Please pass this on to OTHER groups/indies who need stuff reviewed!

THANKS!

Rotcod Zzaj
Dick Metcalf
Team Chief
IC-LOG, Korea

'Professional, Courteous, Concerned'


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:CLIM013@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU
Time/Date: 9:46 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: B'ham tour date

Somebody wanted to know the particulars about DMB in Birmingham.  The date is
December 28th; the place, Boutwell Auditorium; the price, 16.50; tickets
go on sale December 3rd.  That's the info from the local radio station,"The
Bear".  They are also playing songs from Under the Table...  No word on who is
opening for the show.
BTW... Can anyone tell me why the faq.txt file from netspace.org is restricted
access?  I downloaded lyrics.txt from the same place without a problem.
                  Your faithful friend and newbie


Posted By: 74167.3051@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 9:56 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: TOO Much to Say

While I enjoy everyone's comments, I need to cancel my minarets subscription 
-- you've all TOO much to say, and I haven't the time.  But I don't know how 
to cancel.  PLEASE ADVICE.

I subscribe to other music lists where an "editor" distributes a daily digest 
highlighting the days conversation/news so subscribers don't have to get into 
"personal" conversation or read old news.  Does minarets have this?  Any 
volunteers?  If not, someone please on canceling. (Or you'll be reading more 
wsted notes like this).  Much thanks.


Posted By: mrobin09@Calvin.EDU
Time/Date: 11:03 PM Tuesday, November 22, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 362

	Yes, I am A moron!. But anyway, i don't know what ftp means and i 
don't know how to access the faq file. Can someone explain what buttons i 
push and what they mean.  ( I don't mind being flamed as a newbie. I need 
the attention anyway).  THanks in advance. 
		Dirk


Posted By: @Xenon.Stanford.EDU:malachi@leland.stanford.edu
Time/Date: 1:32 AM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: offer closed

Hey all!
   I got enough response to make me feel as though I was making the world
just a little bit better, so the offer is closed.

                          M A L A C H I


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 1:38 AM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: Zollman's or Zeilmans?

ok, guys,

which one is it?

Zollman's Pavillion, Lexington, VA or

Zeilman Pavillion, Lexington, VA?

thanks,
        -AOTM, a.k.a. "Dominic"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you throw your faith to the face of the next good
             thing that comes your way...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: junketw@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 10:22 AM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: Charlotte show

Hey all,
	Before I leave to eat some gooooood food for a change I thought I 
would mention that DMB is playing in Charlotte NC at the Grady Cole 
Center on Dec. 29. That is after 2 days after the Atlanta show and day 
after the B-ham show. I got tickets yesterday ,somewhere around $16.50. 
Hope to see you all at the Atlanta and Charlotte shows!!!!
				HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!!!! :) :) :)
						-TOM
		"A turkey for me and a turkey for you....."
					-A. Sandler


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 11:08 AM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: 'oh i throw myself at yoru feet laughing'

it's zollmans in lex va, dom...... i'm not sure if there's an apostrophe 
anywhere before or after the 's' or not.
hmmmmmm......

happy holidays too all you happy kiddies.
EAT CORNBREAD!!!! and share a heineken with your dad. i will.

oh... there is one thing i must make a great demand to.
BOTH you bens are on strict orders to come stay with us richmonders for nye.
we expect you to come to the show. there is no other alternative.

love and light and searching for spooning...
clare emily

*******************************************************************************
 'i wanna smash the faces of those beautiful boys, those christian boys... 
        so you can make me come it doesn't make you jesus' -t.amos
 
                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: kburesh@mason1.gmu.edu
Time/Date: 11:25 AM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: DMB in DC

I can't remember if anyone put up the info on the D.C. show, so here it 
is anyway:

DMB is playing at the Bender Arena on December 30th. You can get tickets 
from ticket master 1-202-432-7328 for $20.00.  HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!

Kim


Posted By: jdinatal@capcon.net
Time/Date: 12:33 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: DMB in DC

Just ordered my tickets for the Bender show.  It is general admission -- 
it should be very chaotic.  The place is a basically the size of a very 
large high school gym.  Watch out for the phone charge fee of 4.75 per 
ticket on a 20.00 ticket. Thats 25% of the ticket price!!! 

Happy Thanksgiving!!
  
 _____________________________________________
|                                             | 
|Jim DiNatale <jdinatal@capcon.net>           | 
|Washington D.C.                              | 
|_____________________________________________|


Posted By: jdinatal@capcon.net
Time/Date: 1:47 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 tree

I'm trying to contact my parent for this recent DMB tree -- his address is 
listed as  ALLGOD@UMICH.EDU.  If this is you or if the address is 
incorrect please let me know. I would like to avoid all possible hitches 
that could slow this tree down. Thanks! 
  
 _____________________________________________
|                                             | 
|Jim DiNatale <jdinatal@capcon.net>           | 
|Washington D.C.                              | 
|_____________________________________________|


Posted By: jcmuniz@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Time/Date: 2:10 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: Dec 30 Bender tix on sale

Tickets for the Dec. 30 show at the Bender Arena in DC
went on sale this morning. They're $20. I remember running
up to the Bayou last Thanksgiving weekend at 7 pm to buy
tix for the show that same night for 7 dollars. 

By the way, it's general admission.

Kwon


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:41 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: have a good turkey day

To all on the net....

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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:50 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: Re: Zollman's or Zeilmans?

It's this one...
> 
> Zollman's Pavillion, Lexington, VA or
> 
and yes there is an apostrophe because Mr.Zollman owns it and rents it to 
us kind hearted W&L students....hehehe.....There are about 4 shows from 
here (1-30-93,3-6-93 daytime which i dont think exists on tape, 6-1-93 i 
think it was our Senior party, and 10-31-93) just for your info. There is 
also the Pavillion, which the school owns, which was the site of the 
Superdance show with ALLGOOD mentioned earlier this month...
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
|	"No..."								|
|	"A Royale with Cheese...."					|
|									|
|	Ezekiel 25:17							|
|									|
|v4.0									|
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Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 4:54 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: more colorado thoughts

Okay, I'm back.

Don't have the time to write up all my thoughts on the band, the audience,
the weather, etc.  So short and sweet - deja vu.  I mean they were great
each time - but nary a surprise in the whole week.  I did ask Jeff after
their last show in Vail on Sun. about some names of the two new songs I did
hear (one at the all ages show and one at the video shoot) and he said they
didn't have names yet.  He said they were working on new tunes because they
were getting a little sick of playing the same songs (thank god).  I was
hoping they would bring some old ones back and dust them off - but they
played it safe and stuck with very standard sets.

just some statistics:
satellite (4/4)
Granny (0/4)
Billies (4/4)
Dancing Nancies -> Warehouse (4/4) (including the last two shows in CO 6/6)
#36 (4/4) (although its hard to get tired of this one)
rhyme &reason (4/4)
ants (4/4)


Posted By: @dungeon.Microserve.Net:Merta@Microserve.com
Time/Date: 5:56 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: Turky Day Tape Offer!!!!

Dear fellow netters,
    Thanksgiving is a time for giving thanks for all the good things that
happen to us.  (ie Phish, Dave ect)
     Well to show kindness I'm offering up a tape offer to the four
people who E-mail me after midnight tonight and tell me their best Dave
experience of the year (it does not have to be at a show either).  I will pick
the coolest ones and let you know.

    The tape is Dave Mathews Band @ the TLA in Philadelphia. The catch is that
you have to send blanks and postage.  Actually the whole tape fits on a 110.
I taped the show myself on my dat through the SBD.

Highlights from the show include:
   Best,  Warehouse,  Jimi Thing,  Rhyme & Reason,  ect. ect.

I will let you know personally if you win.
                             Have a nice Thanksgiving
                                          peace, love, and R&B
                                                      patrick

ps  Contest starts Weds at Midnite.




================================================================================
**** Mud Sh-Sh-Shark *** Mud Sh-Sh-Shark *** Mud Sh-Sh-Shark *** Mud Sh-Sh-Shar
================================================================================
Patrick Jordan Jr.-MERTA@microserve.com  * in the Wilkes Barre area?
56 Terrace St.                           * Listen to: Surrender to the Phlow
Wilkes Barre PA 18702                    * every Sat. nite 10-2 on 88.5 WRKC
================================================================================


Posted By: messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 7:36 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94

Allright, so I messed up... just a LITTLE bit!  For all of you trying to 
contact ALLGOD@UMICH.EDU, well that won't work!  His address is 
ALLGOOD@UMICH.EDU sorry for all the confusion, I had 3 papers due in 2 
days, just a little stressed out.  If you are having trouble contacting 
anyone else on the tree or are not on it and should be please, please, 
please drop me aline.  I want this thing to run as smooth as I think it 
can.  Enjoy your turkey!  I am sitting alone at my place all weekend, so 
if you want to drop me a line about Dave, the tree, or anything else 
please do.  Any DMB netters with nice fat HQ Phish tapes out there?  I 
have a really nice collection that I am always trying to expand... 

Peace & Out...

Japhy


Posted By: MEDICUS@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
Time/Date: 7:38 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 363

i too have had a problem with the ftp.  i tried it last night for the first
time, hoping to pull down the faq file, but it said access restricted.  what
does this really mean.  is someone updating it or what because i had no problem
pulling down the tour dates file.  to the guy who asked what buttons to push
concerning ftp, you need  to talk to someone at your school or host, each place
 has it's own system i believe.
  onto labeling, it's not worth it.  we seem to be worrying about the wrong
thing here, instead of the odd quirks and eccentricities of dave which i have
much more interest in.
         HAPPY THANKSGIVING
    i too am stuck at school for the holidays, are there any other swimmers
at school working hard.  to the swimmer at wisconsin, drop  me a line if you
at school because i will be at the meet at UNC and maybe we could trade or
something at the meet.
bye
m dicus


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 8:59 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: WWYS, Videos... 'you say that things change'

I know I've been posting a lot lately, but I personally would rather see more
posts concerning... uh... like the band and stuff than wasteful flames by two
attention hungry party spoilers...

Anyway, I was walking on... lessee... 13th street today and I had this vivid
memory of how much I used to love What Would You Say.  Boy it seems like so
long ago.  I mean, it used to really, really rock.  The song itself is great,
but the big huge jam thing at the end would always be evolving and would
always be cool.

I miss that.

And now with a video coming, though it somehow confuses me why they (or
whoever) picked WWYS (especially if they have secrets hopes of being MTV Buzz
Bin material), we all KNOW the song is just going to get streamlined even
more.

They could at least bring back Granny to ease my pain... and chuck a
Spotlight in there for good measure.


No DMB NYE For Ben.  But everyone out there have a kick ass time for me
anyway.

Love and Turkey,

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: ABCDan@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:51 PM Wednesday, November 23, 1994
Subject: God Street Wine live online conference

Members of God Street Wine will appear as our guests in the ABC Auditorium
(on America Online) for the live conference series "Fridays@4ET" on Friday,
Nov. 25th, the day after Thanksgiving.  It will take place before their
concert at the Capitol Theater in Port Chest, NY.

To participate in the conference, log into an America Online account and use
the keyword ABC.  Then click on AUDITORIUM in the lower right.  Then select
"Enter the Auditorium/Odeon" and you'll be there. It's at 4:00 eastern on the
25th (Friday).

However, there will probably be a "hot button" on the welcome menu that will
take you right to the GSW event.  It'll say something like "Click here for
the GSW conference."

If you can't make the conference as it's happening, be sure to check out the
transcript, which will be available on the net soon afterwards.

Hope to see you there!
:-Dan


Posted By: Dave_P._Anderson@csgi.com
Time/Date: 12:15 AM Thursday, November 24, 1994
Subject: Kermit the Frog here

Kermit the Frog here, wondering whether or not I should undigest or not.  I
really don't want to miss out on any late breaking news, but will I be able to
handle the huge amounts of mail?

My hands sweat each day as I stare at my e-mail account waiting, drool
dripping on my now sodden keyboard, for the mext instalment of MINARETS digest
X.

Well, as you can see I'm in one of those moods.  Well I thought I'd add one of
some personal stuff so that you know who you are dealing with.  I'm a high
schooler, I know you are all gasping from shock but wait!  I've liked Dave for
about a year ever since my sister made me listen to his disk.  He's sorta been
an idol guitar wise, my pinky has been getting a lot of exercise in the last
few months, still can't get jimi thing just right.

Well, I can't wait to see Dave at Bender but that is in about a month arg. 
Well it you are feeling like you want to nurture a young Matthews lover, just
e-mail me your address and I will send a blank tape to ya.  (If a lot of
people nurture me i'll have lots of tapes to trade, yay!) 

Later, 
Dave the Daver

PS lover, if you are reading this, lay down for me.


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 12:31 AM Thursday, November 24, 1994
Subject: Dave @ Zollman's

i'm listening to the Zollman's Pavillion performance, 10/30/93, and i came
upon this song, labelled, "Jam"    right before going into it, there are
some very Tyipcal chords, and Dave saying:

"and so we walk, very casually, from our birth to our death.   and do our
best, while we're there, to separate ourselves from each other."

then this song:

Walking by the river
Reach my hands to cup the sky
Down by my arms
Bitter blue turns to red as gashes grew

The river takes you

So much more than I will ever be.

Take this my arm
Take this my eyes
Take this my mouth, and
All this [says]is to [b]me completely true.

[Leroi solo]

Walking by...

[Boyd rips out a SCAREY solo-- Halloweenish, reminiscent of _Psycho_, really]

[Fee-like beat, Leroi is back]

[almost a fade out ending]


if no other name surfaces, i'm calling it "Cup the Sky", cause that's a
great image.

BTW, does anyone know if it's Peter Griesar on keyboard for this show?

thanks,
        -anyoneotherthanme

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you throw your faith to the face of the next good
             thing that comes your way...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 11:34 AM Friday, November 25, 1994
Subject: Re: Dave @ Zollman's

Once again....

Your tape is mislabelled. 1-30-93. Zollman's. Song is, um, Blue Water, or 
Blue Water Babboon Farm, depending. 
Actually, maybe it's 10/31. Same place, but I don't have this tape, so I 
don't know if it was played. I'd guess not. Go with the first one.

Missing the days when vacation meant driving down to Charlottesville or 
to the Bayou in DC to catch Dave,
Adam


Posted By: dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu
Time/Date: 7:13 PM Friday, November 25, 1994
Subject: two men

i'm listening to "Say Goodbye" from the 8/27/94 Fox Theatre show, and i
just heard Dave sing:

"You've got you
I've got me, yeah
And we're two men together,
Maybe we'll be mischievous
And forget about your man
Forget about my wife

Oh lay here with me..."


i listened to it many times.    it makes me smile that i have no problem
with these lines.   i just thought y'all would be interested, and those of
you that have this show, check it out.   it's in the second verse, i think.
a great version of a seldom heard song thesedays, with Leroi on flute
and a kick ass intro.

gonna keep listening...

-anyoneotherthanme

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you throw your faith to the face of the next good
             thing that comes your way...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: gt7672a@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 7:59 PM Friday, November 25, 1994
Subject: Bayou Setlist

Hi - does anyone have a copy of the set list for the Bayou show that
was distributed by a tree last year?  i have a copy on two 100 mins
but i'm not sure of all the song names.  it sounds like there is
some filler as well.   also, does anyone know the date of the show?

chris


Posted By: suzi@teleport.com
Time/Date: 1:49 PM Saturday, November 26, 1994
Subject: 10.25.94 Roseland Theatre

Hey all!
After lurking for a couple months and finally seeing DMB last night for 
the first time, I decided to try my hand at my first post to this 
digest.  Nothing could have prepared me for this show.  I've been 
listening to the CDs, collecting tapes, seeking out info on this 
band...and now I am left speachless.  I am only so sad that i have to 
work tonight, or else I would venture up to Seattle for the show!
They opened with a smooth Seek up.  I was thrilled to see Boyd play, he 
seems so happy and inspired!  Too bad i didn't take down a setlist, I was 
too disorganized, but I know for sure they played Dancing Nancies, Jimi 
Thing, Recently (smokin!!), minarets, song that jane likes, and more that 
escapes me now. Oh except for the set closer of Ants marching which was 
of course the first song that really made DMB an addiction of mine. 
Anyway, I will stop babbling now.  I am psyched that they made it out to 
the NW, finally, and lets hope they return soon.  It was nice to see a 
lot of folks on tour, there were some clear out-of-towners up front.  
Hope Portland treated you well despite the RAIN :)
-Suzi

suzi@teleport.COM  Public Access User --- Not affiliated with Teleport
Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81)
"The herbivores ate well, cos their food didn't ever run"


Posted By: perry@nic.com
Time/Date: 4:08 PM Saturday, November 26, 1994
Subject: Trying to get started

hi,
	I'm sure everyone sees poeple like me all the time but I hate to 
seem like a nieve newbie, but I have never seen anyone in the last year 
(6 shows) taping a show until the Irving Plaza NY show...
	So basically I'll do what ever is necessary for a tape.

So if anyone out there is willing to make a tape I'll send you tapes, $$$ 
or whatever...

Please reply via E-Mail as not to Clutter Minarets

Thank you Very Much,

Perry
Perry@nic.com
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