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Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:02 AM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Satan and his minions

>From the HMV "Holiday Feast" Catalog Mailing:

Dave Matthews Band - Under the Table and Dreaming (RCA) (w/ picture of CD)

Blends of dreamy shifting melodies and airy arrangements make the Dave
Matthews Band's music surge with energy and excitement.  Listen closely to
the South African Matthews' voice, which a times sounds like Robert Plant's.



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

That is all I have to say.

p.s. hey clare why don't you put THIS in the articles file, yuk yuk.

Ben

Current favorite song: Minarets

just another memo from the cellar,

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Posted By: Dominic Sagolla <dominic@sccs.swarthmore.edu>
Time/Date: 1:02 AM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Re: Ants on UTTAD

On Sat, 3 Dec 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:
 
> well, i'd love too make these arguments on the net, but i've been really
> posting too much lately.  i just want everyone to see what i have to say,
> dammit.  :)
that's ok, we don't mind...  ;)
 
> but i see something really cool in the fact that you want to do the song
> acapella.  but the thing is, i don't think i'd be able to listen to you
> do it, and then say "oh, that's the uttad ants."  i'd probably listen
> to the song and say "wow, i've never heard ants marching played that way."
> even if you do it exactly the same.  

that's exactly what i'm looking for.   

1) when the DMB fans in the audience 
hear 2001, they'll think, "Oh, cool.    That's a strange sound they're 
making... wait, deja vu... nahh."

2) then, we'll hit em with the riff.

3) your reaction (hopefully).

4) then, we end with a snippit from Lover Lay Down.    didja ever notice 
that the last words of Ants, "Lights down you up and die," can be 
relplaced by "Spring sweet rhythm dance in my head"?    same notes from 
LLD, but with the Ants beat.   it's coming together...

> your talking about doing something
> with that song that's never even been imagined  (well, i'm sure it's
> been imagined, but you get my picture, right?).  but it doesn't change
> the fact that i think that the way dave has always done it suits the
> song better in terms of the sounds created by the dave matthews band.

i agree.    live Ants is one of the best things about Dave Band.
 
> on that note:
> if i were in a 16 voice group, 

no.   Sixteen FEET.   eight guys.     

and for those in the Philadelphia/Swarthmore area, the Jamboree is the 
7th(Wednesday) and 10th(Saturday) of December.    do come 'if you like a 
mobu jobu' (-Dave, plugging Recently)

laters, ya'll

	-anyoneotherthanme
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    read.    eat?   
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    read.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until all you can hear are #'s 12-33...
================================================================
Dominic Sagolla '96
Swarthmore College
Swarthmore, PA 19081
				
dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 12:18 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Atlanta Gathering

        Since this message was last posted before Thanksgiving, I'm posting
it again for any who missed it:

I'm almost positive that we'll have some type of net gathering before the
Dec. 27 show in Atlanta.  I've received enough responses, I think, to
constitute a gathering.  If you're interested, please write me a message
with Atlanta or Gathering in the subject.

Furthermore, I'd like to get some input on how anyone would like to see
this happen (including those who already responded).  Would you want to
meet somewhere way before the show, an hour before the show, or just at the
show?  Our numbers will probably help define what we'll do, but the two
options I've been considering are dinner or meeting at a park in Atlanta
(or both).
If you're going, try to help make this happen.

                                Thanks,
                                   M A L A C H I

        M A L A C H I


Posted By: keith oliver <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:44 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: atlanta gathering

On Sun, 04 December 1994 at 12:18:59, Malachi said:

>I'm almost positive that we'll have
>some type of net gathering before the Dec. 27 show in Atlanta.
>Would you want to meet somewhere way before the show, an
>hour before the show, or just at the show?  Our numbers will probably
>help define what we'll do, but the two options I've been considering are
>dinner or meeting at a park in Atlanta (or both).

   I think at the show _only_ should be ruled out.  The way the fox is set up
 isn't really inducive to gatherings, plus that is much easier to do when a
 show is General admission.  Like the B'ham show the night before, just in case
 people want to meet there (hint hint).  It's at Boutwell Auditorium.  I know
 Kev and pak and bridget and patrick (?) are going -- maybe others.  anyway....

   As for the Atlanta show, I vote for both.  Dinner and some park, if there
 are good, close places to do that.  I'm not too familiar with atlanta.

                                     keith


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 12:47 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: quietly laughs shaking his head creeps closer to the foot of the bed

On Sat, 3 Dec 1994, NO REASON NO TIME AND AN EXCELLENT VIEW wrote:

>     By the way I'm one of those drunk frat boys and all I have to say is if
> they were assholes before the frats they'll always be assholes. The frats
> just make it easier to recognize the particularly annoying assholes(they
> congregate more readily than the rest). Which hopefully I am not.

fraternity or no fraternity. i can distinguish an asshole when i see one. 

> And I hope all of you who were making such a big deal about labeling DAMABA
> fans (grannies, jimmies) aren't  using such terms as "frat boys" Otherwise
> I might have to label you as a hypocrite, and then we'd both feel like
> dumbasses (one label that I use freely without regret) Not angry, just
> making a valid point,     Doug 


well.. i know one thing.. i'm certainly not a drunk frat boy.

spreading hugs and spoons for finals.
clare emily
 
send off now! (NOW!) for your free hug!
email directly as below to:

*******************************************************************************
   'i feel it all fading and paling and i'm begging to drag you down with me 
   to kick the last nail in yeah i like you in that like i like you to scream 
 but if you open your mouth then i can't be responsible for quite what goes in 
                       or to care what comes out......' 

                 cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 12:55 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: DMB/Phish in San Jose, CA

        Again, tonight's show was very nice.  The Giant Country Horns
really add a lot to Phish, but we got the feeling that they only knew
certain Phish songs, which detracted from the variety of the shows.  The
DMB played well, with a more unique set than last night.  They seemed to be
more intent on playing well than impressing the crowd, which they did last
night.

Here's the setlist:

DMB
---

(once again I missed at least one song)
Best of What's Around
Rhyme & Reason
All Along the Watchtower
Recently
True Reflections
Ants Marching

PHISH
-----

Set I
-----
Wilson
Divided Sky
Guelah Papyrus
Scent of a Mule
Eastern European sounding jam
Run Like an Antelope
Colonel Forbin's Ascent
Sample in a Jar

Set II w/ GCH
-------------
?
Suzy Greenberg
Gumbo?
Slave to the Traffic Light
Same ? as Set II last night
Cmon, Cmon, Cmon Touch Me Babe (Fishman singing and dancing, Trey on drums)
Don't Take Another Step
Cavern

-encore- (alone)
Golgi Apparatus

        Tonight I was REALLY disappointed that they didn't encore with
Dave, but what can you do?  Highlights for me with the DMB were Watchtower
(which I had never heard live) and True Reflections (they played this two
nights ago also, are they bringing it back?).  Boyd was on tonight, with
slower, groovier jams than usual, more lead fiddle than rhythm fiddle.
Steffan was also playing better than usual, IMHO.

        Phish's first set kicked my ass once again.  It was fun to hear
Wilson, Divided Sky and Colonel Forbin's Ascent again (I prefer a few
Gamehenge songs rather than a full set), and Run Like an Antelope, Guelah,
and especially Scent of a Mule, which had that E. European jam and another
great piano solo, were great.
        Suzy Greenberg was much better tonight than last night, as were
Gumbo and Don't Take Another Step, Golgi was a really good encore, but
Touch Me, Babe easily stole the show for me.  Trey moved in on drums (I
didn't know he could play so well!) and Fishman went crazy singing and
dancing (no Vacuum though).

Hoping for a great one from Dave tonight in San Francisco!!



                                M A L A C H I
                        /===========================\
                       / Malachi@Leland.Stanford.edu \
                      /              ***              \
                      \           Jeff Heys           /
                       \         PO Box 4867         /
                        \     Stanford, CA 94309    /
                         \=========================/


Posted By: CGL5671@ACS.TAMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:54 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Dave in Houston

For all intrested,

	Dave is playing at the club Rockefeller's on Fri Dec 16.  Mail me
if you need info.  Hey its a weekend and exams are probably over so "ROAD
TRIP."  It will be fun.  Looking forward to seeing ya'll in Austin and 
Chouston.

							Cliff
							CGL5671@zeus.tamu.edu


Posted By: Gregory Michael Pepper <gpepper@unix.cc.emory.edu>
Time/Date: 2:34 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Ultimate Band List

	Could anybody post the site for the Ultimate BAnd List?  I 
accidentally deleted all of this months messages.

		Thank you

	*****Like an angel, standing in a shaft of light*****
       *****rising up to paridise, i know i'm gonna shine*****
					-Jerry Garcia


Posted By: Craig Mahonchak <mahoncha@nag.cs.colorado.edu>
Time/Date: 3:48 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Sound Files

I tried FTPing the sound files from the DMB directory.  What format are
these files in?  Their extensions are .au? but my windows recorder says it
can't recogonize the type and their not valid WAV format...

Any info would be appreciated.  

Craig


Posted By: REIDENOUE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 3:51 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: V-DAY

I think meeting before the Symphony show on Valentine's Day is a great 
idea.  It will make a memorable experience even more memorable.  I also 
support the dessing-up deal.  I'm not talking black-tie or anything, but 
neat attire seems more appropriate.  Dressing up and sitting down for a
Dave show?  I don't know.  I'm excited and all, but I've adopted the 
wait-and-see attitude.  One thing's for sure, I'm looking forward to 
meeting all you (enter favorite Dave fan label here) from around the 
area.  Oh yeah - one more thing:  3rd St.'s cool and all, but how about 
some other fine places?  I'd feel kind of funny at 3rd St. in a shirt and 
tie (and pants).  How about Bottom's Up, Coyote, Richbrau, or something 
like that?  Just throwing out suggestions...
Jon
		"I'll take some Vitamin C and you too."
				-Dave


Posted By: "not in any hurry to live my life..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 3:59 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: the logic of some people.....sheesh...

ben sterling shares:
>>From the HMV "Holiday Feast" Catalog Mailing:
>
>Dave Matthews Band - Under the Table and Dreaming (RCA) (w/ picture of CD)
>
>Blends of dreamy shifting melodies and airy arrangements make the Dave
>Matthews Band's music surge with energy and excitement.  Listen closely to
>the South African Matthews' voice, which a times sounds like Robert Plant's.
>                                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

WHY do people keep saying this??????????????????
this is the second time i've seen dave compared to robert plant, and not
that i don't like plant (hey, zeppelin helped me figure the six-string out),
but it's simply not true.  dave doesn't sound a thing like robert plant.

why?
why?
why?
and _no_ i don't like bud dry. (new amsterdam winterfest on the other hand....)

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu (Scott Miller)
Time/Date: 4:23 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Re: the logic of some people.....sheesh...

>WHY do people keep saying this??????????????????
>this is the second time i've seen dave compared to robert plant, and not
>that i don't like plant (hey, zeppelin helped me figure the six-string out),
>but it's simply not true.  dave doesn't sound a thing like robert plant.
>
>why?
>why?
>why?
>and _no_ i don't like bud dry. (new amsterdam winterfest on the other hand....)
>
I completely understand what you are saying,  I have never compared the 2 
myself,  but at the same time,  I see where the comparison can come from.  
Both have a pretty amazing range,  both have a very emotional/a lot of 
heart,  type sound,  and Dave does do a pretty strange Stairway to Heaven.  
But for the most part I agree,  the comparison is indeed a stretch.  I have 
always thought Dave was a total nasal singer.  If I pinch my nose and sing,  
I can almost make Satellite sound like Satellite,  not really, but I tell 
myself that to keep my seld esteem up!  Anyway, 'Talk amongst yourselves!'
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: "not in any hurry to live my life..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 4:33 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: "well, well uh...yeah"--dave, 11-9-94, say goodbye

>X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas
>X-Comment:  Open discussion for the dave matthews band
these are my favorite two lines of the header to these things.
"open discussion for the dave matthews band."  ha.  haha.

and wouldn't it be neat to be know as anastasios kotsikonas.
we should start calling our bagby's "kotsikonas'"  tee-hee.

>
>I think meeting before the Symphony show on Valentine's Day is a great 
>idea.  It will make a memorable experience even more memorable.  I also 
>support the dessing-up deal.  I'm not talking black-tie or anything, but 
>neat attire seems more appropriate.  Dressing up and sitting down for a
>Dave show?  I don't know.  I'm excited and all, but I've adopted the 
>wait-and-see attitude.  One thing's for sure, I'm looking forward to 
>meeting all you (enter favorite Dave fan label here) from around the 
>area.  Oh yeah - one more thing:  3rd St.'s cool and all, but how about 
>some other fine places?  I'd feel kind of funny at 3rd St. in a shirt and 
>tie (and pants).  How about Bottom's Up, Coyote, Richbrau, or something 
>like that?  Just throwing out suggestions...

how about a place we know we can get everyone other than myself into.
i know bottom's up is of age, and i assume that since richbrau is a
brewery, it's of age.  and if you feel funny _at all_ going to 3rd st,
maybe you shouldn't be at 3rd street.

sorry.  clare, explain my bluntness to everyone.

anway, like i said, i was thinking of the balcony at third st.  we'd
be our own little group and nobody would care whether you/we are dressed
up.  i tend to be somewhat rugged, myself.  if my shirt even has buttons,
i'm dressed up.  so every time i go to 3rd st with clare, i feel like
she's dressed up, simply because she likes to wear dresses. 

and also, since the debate on lableing started/finished, i've noticed alot
of people saying "enter favorite dave fan label here."  now, i'm among those
who don't care what you call me, or why you call me that, but i don't 
particularly want to be know as an "efdflhere."  i think it might be kind
of cool to meet some _people_ at this gathering and what not.  their may
even be people their who have no clue as to the workings of this net.  they
just came because i friend invited them.  and while on this net, i have
no qualms with being referred to as a dave.netter, because that's something
that i cannot deny that i am.

the fact that i can't be explained/described/labelled for liking dave band
doesn't mean that we have to be so ambiguous about our association with this
net, eh?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "not in any hurry to live my life..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 4:44 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: brrr....?

last week someone asked me specifically for the lyrics to song that
jane likes, and when i went to do it, i realized that it isn't in
the file.

duh...


WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME????????????


do i feel stupid or do i feel stoopid.  no, maybe i feel stewpyd.

anyway.  if you're waiting for copies of r2t lyrics, you'll have
to wait a bit.  


er.
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "Russell P. Hartman" <captna@seattleu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:57 PM Sunday, Decemeber 4, 1994
Subject: Re: please unsuscribe me!

Pleasee unsuubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


Posted By: "Catherine E. Hobbs" <chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 6:01 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Re: V-DAY

someone suggested Bottoms up for a net meet ..thingy
well ive got no clue if ill be in town for the symphony or no
but damn i sure want Bottoms Up pizza .. and now! 
yummy feelings
cathy


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 7:19 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: End the Discussion

hey now,
i am sorry, but i can't handle 70 messages of ants talk. I like the song,
but do we need to talk about it somuch? to end this conversation, i will
tell you why it was put on the album. this is the truth: while at the 
lisner show on nov8, i met three of the dmb record executives. they were
really nice, and one gave me a 6th row ticket for free. anyway, they said
that dave didn't want ants on the album but they pushed him to do it so
hard that he did. that is why it is on there. also, they played what would
you say on that radio show, because it will be their 1st video.

				jonathan


Posted By: DLALLISON@unca.edu
Time/Date: 8:37 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Atlanta gathering

Hey all! I am definitely looking forward to having a net gathering
before the Atlanta show. However, I agree with Keith when he said
that the Fox is not the place to do it. Dinner at a restaurant
or a park sound great...even both!!! Another possible suggestion
is somewhere in Underground Atlanta. Underground is an ultra cool
setting. It a "city" underneath Atlanta! It has many cool shops,
restaurants, cafes, clubs, etc.  It is a clean environment. I know that
the word "Underground" gives it a dark and dank feeling, but it's
not like that.  Again it is just a suggestion. A good person
to follow up on this conversation is my friend, college mate, and
fellow minaretter Alex. He is also going to the Fox show. He lives
in Atlanta so after reading this post as well as all other comments on the 
gathering, I am sure he will make a post of his suggestions.
Won't you Alex???  Can't wait tofinally meet everyone. If you are
interested in the Underground idea, let me know by responding
to me via my personal E-mail address so we will mot clog up the 
post. 
                                    Thanx,
                           Dusty Allison
                        DLALLISON@UNCA.EDU


Posted By: PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 8:56 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: please not 100.3

Someone posted that Best of What's Around was played on 100.3 in Ithaca,
New York... is that the same as Z100.3 in New York City?  If it is, those 
are bad tidings indeed.  By far the most exploitive, redundant Top 40 station
in the country...and damn annoying.  It's hard not to be happy about that
kind of exposure, but I'd like to see DMB rise in popularity at a slightly
slower pace than being on that station's playlist. 

Anyone know of any good Horde type bands playing in Florida between December
18 and 29th?  Any info would be appreciated.

Greg Parisi
<parisigre@urvax.urich.edu>


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 9:49 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Nothing Davey but it affects ya'.....

hey all.

  Here is a brief commentary of a recent experience.

 When did gas (fuel for auto's and such) prices go up?

well the way i noticed prices went up is this: when i go to get some
fuelage, i usually lock the pump so it stays pumping automatically.
then i dig thru my pockets to see when would be the legal time to
stop the pump due to the ammount of moola in my pockets. well....
today i went to the station and BEFORE I COULD EVEN COUNT how much
change was in my pocket i knew that the price on the gas meter had
already exceeded what was in my pocket.....uh oh........um..um....
can you spare any change ?.....PEACE.

                          now cruisin' on my sk8,

                                CHA * *
                                    \_/


Posted By: Jeremy Cameron Davis <jcdavis@wam.umd.edu>
Time/Date: 10:25 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Re: ANTS!!!!!!!!

On Sat, 3 Dec 1994, Gregory Michael Pepper wrote:

  Not every band can achieve the status of the 
> BEATLES or LED ZEPPELIN.  Those are are teh exception!  Only a few bands 
> can create only great songs!  

Beg Pardon?? The Beatles and Led Zeppelin created only great songs? As 
far as I am concerned DMB has created ONLY great songs...Their WORST song 
is comparable to some of the best of popular groups these days. I can't 
think of ONE DMB song that I can't groove too..I like them ALL..


Posted By: Matthew Thompson <matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU>
Time/Date: 10:51 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB/Phish in San Jose, CA

> 
> Here's the setlist:
> 
> DMB
> ---
> 
> (once again I missed at least one song)
> Best of What's Around
> Rhyme & Reason
> All Along the Watchtower
> Recently
> True Reflections
> Ants Marching
> 
> PHISH
> -----
> 
> Set I
> -----
> Wilson
> Divided Sky
> Guelah Papyrus
> Scent of a Mule
> Eastern European sounding jam
> Run Like an Antelope
> Colonel Forbin's Ascent
> Sample in a Jar
> 
> Set II w/ GCH
> -------------
> ?
> Suzy Greenberg
> Gumbo?
> Slave to the Traffic Light
> Same ? as Set II last night
> Cmon, Cmon, Cmon Touch Me Babe (Fishman singing and dancing, Trey on drums)
> Don't Take Another Step
> Cavern
> 
> -encore- (alone)
> Golgi Apparatus


Small addendum to this list: Seek Up was the first song, right before Best Of
What's Around.

Kudos to Malachi for posting!

Matt


Posted By: Gregory Michael Pepper <gpepper@unix.cc.emory.edu>
Time/Date: 11:55 PM Sunday, December 4, 1994
Subject: Re: ANTS!!!!!!!!

On Sun, 4 Dec 1994, Jeremy Cameron Davis wrote: 

> 
> 
> On Sat, 3 Dec 1994, Gregory Michael Pepper wrote: > > Not every band can
achieve the status of the > > BEATLES or LED ZEPPELIN.  Those are are teh
exception!  Only a few bands > > can create only great songs!  > > Beg
Pardon?? The Beatles and Led Zeppelin created only great songs? As > far
as I am concerned DMB has created ONLY great songs...Their WORST song > is
comparable to some of the best of popular groups these days. I can't >
think of ONE DMB song that I can't groove too..I like them ALL..

I will not disagree with you, but when DMB reaches the level of the 
Beatles and Led Zep as far as number of albums and hits, then you can 
compare DMB to them.  Untill then I'm sorry to say that DMB is a couple 
of steps behind!  Sorry!> >  > 


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us (Daniel Blanchat)
Time/Date: 12:59 AM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Comparing damaba to...

There have been a few messages recently discussing whether or not it's
appropriate to compare Dave Matthews to Led Zep or the Beatles.

It's definitely ok to compare them.  If you compare # of
songs/albums/hits, it's not necessarily a FAIR comparison, because Led
Zep and the Beatles both produced albums for a number of years, while
damaba is just getting started.  It's definitely fair to compare
damaba to ANYONE as far as songwriting and performing is concerned.
Dave's songs are easily on or above the level of anyone else in
popular music, past or present.  The emotion, and meaning, to his
songs is undeniable.

I don't believe that # of followers/#of hits/# of albums/# of anything
is a reasonable way to judge an artist's ability to perform his/her
art.  Quality is NOT equal to quantity, and never will be.  Popularity
is NOT a way to judge quality.  The only way to judge the quality of
art, is to critically look at it for yourself, and decide whether or
not you feel it is good art.  By my standards, damaba produces much
better art than Led Zeppelin ever did, and is better than all of the
early work by the beatles, and better than all but the best of the
later work from the beatles.
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me

<A HREF="http://mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us/~djb/dmb">Dave Matthews Band FAQ</A>


Posted By: Geoffrey Balleisen <gjb@ccnet.com>
Time/Date: 1:35 AM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB/Phish in San Jose, CA

The first song was Seek Up!  This set was twice as good as the one in 
Davis.  It really smoked.  The place (about 6 or 7 thousand) was going 
crazy.  I'm really surprised they didn't encore.

I was standing next to these guys during Dave's set, who between songs 
were really ragging on Dave.  The were saying "You suck," or "We want 
Phish!"  They seemed like they were "grunge" type people.  They only 
piped up maybe once after Watchtower.  The band really won the crowd 
over.  I have a feeling their next trip to the Bay Area will find them 
in considerably larger venues than the clubs they've been playing!

My friends we're big Phisheads, but this one girl loves Dave.  She went 
to Seattle, Portland, somewhere else in the Pacific NW, and then flew 
down here to California to see Davis and San Jose, not for Phish, but for 
Dave!

Geoff Balleisen				"Five pounds,
	gjb@ccnet.com				six pounds,
		gjballeisen@ucdavis.edu			seven pounds"


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 6:25 AM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: DMB at the Great American Music Hall

        Unfortunately, this will be my last setlist post for a while, for
my four-show weekend is over (mixed feelings).  Anyway, I got a chance to
talk to Dave for a while before the show and I confirmed a few things.
First of all, he heavily supports our net, and told me a story about how he
told the "record company executives" to "fuck off" when they mentioned
disbanding the net.  Also, he said that they've been working a lot on Get
in Line, True Reflections, and Drive in, Drive out.  Furthermore, he told
me when I asked that his favorite interpretation of Recently deals with
interracial dating (thus the Recently cover), but that someone else
suggested that.  It was originally about a woman he dated who was very
disposed to public display of affection, anywhere, and that after he got
used to it, he loved it.  Finally, and most exciting of all, I told him
about the Atlanta gathering I'm trying to plan (keep the suggestions
rolling in!), and he said that he might be interested in coming, if we did
it early enough!!!  If that's not a good reason to participate, I don't
know what is!

Anyway, here's tonight's setlist (approx. 2 hrs, 45 min.):

DMB
---

Seek Up
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Best of What's Around
Rhyme & Reason
Jimi Thing
Intro to...
Satellite
Get in Line
True Reflections
Say Goodbye
Minarets
Typical Situation
Intro to...
Tripping Billies
Recently
#36
Ants Marching

        -encore-
Christmas Song (Carter & Dave)
All Along the Watchtower



Also, here's a tally of all four nights:

Seek Up                 3/4     (first every time played)
Best of What's Around   3/4
Song that Jane Likes    1/4
Dancing Nancies         3/4     (he's added some lyrics before the could i's)
Warehouse               3/4     (after Dancing Nancies each time)
Satellite               3/4
Rhyme & Reason          3/4
Jimi Thing              3/4
Say Goodbye             2/4
True Reflections        3/4
What Would You Say      1/4     (I thought it would be played a lot more)
Tripping Billies        3/4
Recently                3/4     (he doesn't sing Broadway or Some People Do

anymore, but tonight he added some
different
                                 lyrics.  Played every time towards end and
                                 twice before #36 -> Ants)
#36                     3/4     (this song is still getting better)
Ants Marching           4/4     (preceded by #36 3/4 times)
Christmas Song          2/4     (both times as encore, once solo Dave, other
                                 time with Carter)
Watchtower              2/4     (tonight as second encore)
Get in Line             1/4
Minarets                1/4
Typical Situation       1/4


Back to my review of the show tonight...
        Seek Up started very well, blowing away a very respectful crowd.
If you've ever been to the GAMH in San Francisco, you know how beautiful it
is (very ornate decorations), as well as how small.  The climax of the show
for me began with Get in Line and ended with Typical Situation.  Get in
Line was great to hear (as it's new and it's a fun song), especially since
Dave promised me that he'd play it.  It's undergone quite a few changes
since 10/15, the first version I heard (he got rid of singing "Get in line"
evidently), but, trust me, it still rocks.  True Reflections was great to
hear again (probably the best version I've heard) but not near as much of a
surprise as in Santa Cruz.  Say Goodbye is always wonderful, 'nuff said,
and Dave gave it a little spoken intro tonight.  Minarets ROCKED!  It was
the first time that I had heard it live, and it's so much better than on
R2T.  Dave made his trademark pre-Minarets noises with Carter giving him a
kind of vocal rap base.  Typical Situation was very pretty, a surprise for
me because I don't really like the UTTAD version.  Finally, the encore was
cool too, with yet another beautiful rendition of Christmas Song (it
sounded much different with Carter joining Dave) as well as a killer
Watchtower that had the entire crowd bouncing up and down.

        Leroi was definitely playing much better tonight than he has the
last couple of nights, and Dave gave us plenty of Davespeak.  I was very
amused towards the beginning of the show, when some guy in the first row
yelled a loud "DAVE!", trying to get his attention, and Dave leaned over
and yelled a loud "WHAT?!" right back.


        Everything didn't put out quite as crispy a performance as they did
in Santa Cruz, and the two lists were remarkably similar.  Oh well...

BTW, everyone listen to I'll Back You Up lots over the next two weeks,
it'll help get you through your exams.  And if anyone has the tape of a
show with IBYU, I'd love to trade for it.




                                M A L A C H I
                        /===========================\
                       / Malachi@Leland.Stanford.edu \
                      /              ***              \
                      \           Jeff Heys           /
                       \         PO Box 4867         /
                        \     Stanford, CA 94309    /
                         \=========================/


Posted By: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 8:37 AM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: wow. cool. neat...

from malachi:
>First of all, he heavily supports our net, and told me a story about how he
>told the "record company executives" to "fuck off" when they mentioned
>disbanding the net.

the very nature of this line disturbs me a great deal.  why would rca want
to disband us?  how could they disband us.  i'd have to say that if they
walked into uvm and tried to turn off listproc, they'd be breeching some
serious freedom of speech rights and would be slapped (by us, uvm, and dave)
with a solid lawsuit.

>Intro to...
>Satellite
ami missing somthing?  when did satelite gain an intro?

>Recently                3/4     (he doesn't sing Broadway or Some People Do
>
>anymore, but tonight he added some
>different
>                                 lyrics.  Played every time towards end and
>                                 twice before #36 -> Ants)

don't look at it as saying that he's not doing it anymore.  look at it
as he's not doing it right now.  those quotes aren't part of the song,
they are just something he likes to throw into the song.  sometimes he
feels like doing it, sometimes he doesn't.  :)  something he hasn't
quoted in forever, though, is norwegian wood.
as for the overall talley of these shows, i'm fairly impressed.  i can't
remember if the stagnation threads were over the summer or not, but at
any rate, it shows a true freshness to the band.  though on the surface
the setlists look remarkably the same, the only song to make it all
four nights was ants, which is to be expected.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 9:52 AM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: personal to the guy looking for msweeney

sorry to waste the space but...

To the guy who posted looking for msweeney please get back to me.  I 
finally figured out who you are and i am the guy your looking for (that 
is if you are who i think you are).  so get in touch please (and 
hopefully you're who i'm looking for).  bye all

matt

i've been up for 19 hours and still have 5 more hours till i can sleep 
wish me luck :)


Posted By: Mark Skelton <m1cms01@FRB.GOV>
Time/Date: 10:30 AM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: please unsuscribe me!

>Pleasee unsuubscribe me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

ditto...  i've had to setup a kill rule to filter out the
messages...


---
	C. Mark Skelton
	m1cms01@frb.gov


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 11:05 AM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: The Atlanta Gathering

My 2 cents on  the atl gathering is that we should get a some hotel rooms that
are on a marta line. That way (if you guys want) we could party before the
show, hop on marta, enjoy and evening with dmb, hop back on marta, party some
more.  However, this can be expensive, but i want to go all out on this nite.

I NEED AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, PLEASE.  Who will be taping the 12/27 show
in Atl.???????????????????????????????????????????  I need to know so i can ask
yoiu that if I bring tapes and a sase to the show, will you be so kind to tape
them and send them to me!!!!

Please respond!

alex


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 11:39 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: tapes

Whoever had my Wait tapes (DAN?) I need these!!!  The tree awaits....

sean

                -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: CJACOBS@smith.smith.edu
Time/Date: 12:54 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: so you say...

y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he can't
even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told
me a couple months ago why this number was so important to him.  not to get
picky, but everybody else does, so why not join in...

oh yeah, and about the led zepplin and beatles comparison...to the young man
who said he loved ALL of dave's stuff, i just want to say that's it's OKAY
not to.  in order to have really yummy songs you have to have less than yummy
songs and, i admit, they do (i.e. lover lay down).  and it's quite alright not
to orgasm after each individual song.  that's all.

have a lovely day,
carly
cjacobs@smith.smith.edu


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu (Scott Miller)
Time/Date: 1:11 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: V-Day Get Together and Halloween!!

Just picture it,
        sitting back in the Carpenter Center,  they end with the Halloween 
Song,  the symphony could rock that song,  picture big kettle drums banging 
out the end and the cymbol player guy,  it will be beautiful!  Dave will 
loose his voice again and the next few shows will suck,  let's hope not.  
But I think the Halloween Song would be phenominal as well as Minarets and 
Say Goodbye.
        For V-Day,  I will probably where a tie,  but thats only because 
it's so rare that I get to dress up,  so I must take advantage of this 
opportunity.  I like the 3rd Street idea about getting the balcony.  I think 
this is a perfect place with lots of room.  I don't know if we need to 
reserve it,  but if we do we should figure out how many people are going to 
show up,  anyway!  Something to think about.
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu (Brett)
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: wow. cool. neat...

>>Recently                3/4     (he doesn't sing Broadway or Some People Do
>>anymore, but tonight he added some
>>different
>>                                 lyrics.  Played every time towards end and
>>                                 twice before #36 -> Ants)
>
>feels like doing it, sometimes he doesn't.  :)  something he hasn't
>quoted in forever, though, is norwegian wood.

I was really really hoping he would at the lexington show, especially after
he quoted absolutely everything else, incl broadway, etc..

but..  he did do a norweigian wood at the wake forest.  as a whole recently
wasn't as good as lex, but that was worth it. :)

I wonder if they've thought of/tried to do the whole song as a cover..  I
don't want to start another comparison thread (ie - the stuff about the
beatles and led zep), but I really do think they could do some awesome covers
of beatles tunes...

brett kiiiiiiingswell

--
you don't have to worry about me
i might have been born yesterday
but i stayed up all night


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu (Scott Miller)
Time/Date: 1:30 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Rhyme and Reason!

One quick question,
        I have a tape of the DMB playing Ryhme and Reason at the Floodzone,  
no date,  but it sounds completely different.  Carter opens up wiht a pretty 
cool little drum solo and then Stefan comes in with this really funky bass 
line. Then finally Boyd and Leroi.  It sounds really jazzy.  When Dave plays 
youu can barely hear that it's the same song.  The lyrics are different 
also.  The point where Dave now sings,  "my head won't leave my head alone", 
 he sings "I don't mind what you do on your time,  but what you do on mine . 
. ."
        If anybody has heard this tape,  or this song performed this way,  
get back to me.  I would love to know if it was common,  or rare.  I liked 
it better that way I think,  anyway hope to hear from someone who knows what 
I am talking about!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: shaft <KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 1:32 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: The incredible edible egg

Am I still dazed, or did somebody else out there just shell out $95 for two
really shitty seats for the Valentines Day show?  I'm sure it'll be a great
show, but I kind of wish that I had known ahead of time what I was going to be
taken for. The sad thing is, I bought them on Saturday, relatively early, and I
still got ass-far seats. Oh well, Dusty I still haven't gotten those tapes yet,
They might come in this afternoon. God the mail here sucks. I'm rambling and
that's a sign that it's time to go. Good luck to all on finals, I hope we all
will still be here next semester (especially me).  
							Kev :-Q

"Doesn't matter anyway-hey, hey, hey!"
				-Go-Go's(I LOVE that song)

Now that the antibiotics are taking affect and I'm no longer coughing up blood,
smoking, for your convenience, is once again allowed in my messages.


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 1:58 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Satellite intro..

On Mon, 5 Dec 1994, uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug wrote:

> >Intro to...
> >Satellite
> ami missing somthing?  when did satelite gain an intro?
> 
Dave did this at Wait Chapel, and I've heard faint bits of it elsewhere. 
Sounds like it evolved from playing around with the notews before 
actually starting the song, and the band decided to join in. Pretty hip...

Dave rarities and best of tape(s) will be arriving after break...

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Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Brian Lipman)
Time/Date: 2:10 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Blue Screen Show Setlist 12/5

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico and Ooodz, 2-3:30 Sunday Nights/Monday Mornings
89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago

It was a crazzy one...

11/28/94 

"Brazil Theme-->"   .............Brazil Soundtrack
"Be Our Guest"(underneathe opening schpeil)....Disney
"Llama"..........................Phish, 11/18/94 MSU
"Lost in a Crowd"................Rusted Root, 12/2/94 The Coronet, Evanston IL
"Recently"............Dave Matthews Band w/ Warren Haynes 11/27/93 The Bayou, DC
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Happiness is a Warm Gun", "--the next
one--" (I'm spacing)    ................Phish 10/31/94 Glens Falls, NY
Indiana Jones Theme-->
Dear Prudence....................Jerry Garcia Band
The Wedge........................Phish, 2/6/93 Roseland, NYC
"Big House Blues"................Ren & Stimpy


 |
/ \

Brian

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|Brian Lipman <chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu>    ( @    @ )   ---------------- |
|Northwestern University                   {    !     }  |  BL   SCR    | |
|Bobb Hall #107, 2305 Sheridan Road         ( \    / )   |    UE   EEN  | |
|Evanston, IL 60201                          ( \__/ )    ---------------- |
|Ladies and Gentleman...On Drums..Mr. Ernest Giussepe Anastasio!-Henrietta|
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Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 2:25 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: 34/36

On Mon, 5 Dec 1994 CJACOBS@smith.smith.edu wrote:

> y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
> net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
> they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
> redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he can't
> even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
> watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told

Well, obviously you haven't been touching up your knowledge recently 
because you would have known that #34 AND #36 are both songs. #36 is the 
one he's been playing in concert recently, has words, and is not on the 
CD. #34 is the beatiful masterpice, is a rare gem to hear live, used to 
have owrds, and is on the CD. I'm not professing any dave knowledge, just 
the facts.....


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us (Daniel Blanchat)
Time/Date: 2:27 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

> 
> y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
> net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
> they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
> redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he can't
> even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
> watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told
> me a couple months ago why this number was so important to him.  not to get
> picky, but everybody else does, so why not join in...

#34 and #36 are two different songs.  #34 is on UTAD, #36 isn't.  The 
only signif. to the #s is that they are the 34th and 36th songs dave wrote.

> 
> oh yeah, and about the led zepplin and beatles comparison...to the young man
> who said he loved ALL of dave's stuff, i just want to say that's it's OKAY
> not to.  in order to have really yummy songs you have to have less than yummy
> songs and, i admit, they do (i.e. lover lay down).  and it's quite alright not
> to orgasm after each individual song.  that's all.

I prefer EVERY dave matthews song to MOST other music.  I have yet to hear
a song by damaba that I didn't like.  Some I like better than others, but
since I only see them every few months, I enjoy the songs they play, whatever
they decide to play.  It's not a religious thing, they just play the music 
the way I like to hear it.

> 
> have a lovely day,
> carly
> cjacobs@smith.smith.edu
> 
> 

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me

<A HREF="http://mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us/~djb/dmb">Dave Matthews Band FAQ</A>


Posted By: Ben Tanen <btanen@netspace.org>
Time/Date: 2:28 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

On Mon, 5 Dec 1994 CJACOBS@smith.smith.edu wrote:

> y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
> net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
> they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
> redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he can't
> even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
> watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told
> me a couple months ago why this number was so important to him.  not to get
> picky, but everybody else does, so why not join in...

I'm going to restrain myself here and simply say that in case it isn't 
universally known around these parts, the Dave Matthews Band has two songs 
that are titled by numbers, #34 and #36.  They both exist, they are QUITE 
different, and they are both great tunes.

> carly
> cjacobs@smith.smith.edu
> 

-Ben


Posted By: WOLFDJ@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
Time/Date: 2:29 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject:

>Hey y'all,
>
>Due to the high interest in Blue Screen Tapes I am going to arrange a small
>tree of two shows:
>
>10/17/94
>
>"Brazil Theme"   ...............Brazil Soundtrack
>"Coconuts"(underneathe opening) Widespread Panic, "Space Wrangler"
>"Alumni Blues"..................Phish, 2/23/90 Haverford College
>"Time is Free"..................Widespread Panic 10/31/93, Montana
>"The Poignant and Epic Saga of Featherhead and Lucky Lack"
>                        ........Blues Traveler 5/17/93 Eugene, OR
>"Gyute"..(broadcast debut??)....Phish 10/7/94 Lehigh, PA
>"China Cat Sunflower-->I Know You Rider"..Grateful Dead "Without A Net"
>"Angel From Montgomery".........Dave Matthews w/ Tim Reynolds, 1/29/94
>Wetlands
>
>"Nightengale"...................God Street Wine "Bag"
>"Mango Song", "Freebird"........Phish, 8/20/93 Red Rocks
>"Big House Blues"...............Ren & Stimpy
>
>   &
>
>11/28/94
>
>"Brazil Theme-->"   .............Brazil Soundtrack
>"Dark Side Tease-->Ed Sullivan Intro.-->Back in the USSR"(underneathe
>opening schpeil) Phish, 10/31/94 Glens Falls, NY
>"Werewolves of London"...........Widespread Panic, 10/31/94 Evanston, IL
>John Popper Interview-->
>"Love of My Life"................Blues Traveler 11/12/94 Upper Darby, PA
>Trey Anastasio's Interpretation of the Blue Screen-->
>"Halley's Comet"-->"David Bowie"........Phish, 11/26/94  Minneapolis, MN
>"Two Step".......................Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds, 1/29/94 NYC
>"No Dogs Allowed"................Phish 10/26/89 Wetlands, NYC
>"Big House Blues"................Ren & Stimpy
>
>
>They each fit on 90 minute tapes
>
>So please send me mail with the subject "LEAF" if you don't want to make
>copies or "BRANCH" if you want to make copies (about 3...6 tapes)
>
>Please no high speed dubbing!
>
>The deadline is Tuesday 12/6 at Noon.
>The tree will be posted the first week of January
>
>OK, here's the form.....
>
>_________________
>
>Name:
>Email address:
>Taping setup, heads, etc..
>Snail address:
>Phone #
>
>_______________
>
>Thanks and be sure to use the proper subject headers....if you are willing
>to spin more than three copies as a branch please not that in the subject
>ie:
>BRANCH-5
>
>OK?
>
> |
>/ \
>
>Chico
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>|Brian Lipman <chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu>    ( @    @ )   ---------------- |
>|Northwestern University                   {    !     }  |  BL   SCR    | |
>|Bobb Hall #107, 2305 Sheridan Road         ( \    / )   |    UE   EEN  | |
>|Evanston, IL 60201                          ( \__/ )    ---------------- |
>|Ladies and Gentleman...On Drums..Mr. Ernest Giussepe Anastasio!-Henrietta|
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>


Posted By: Kyle Kristopher Langschwager <allgood@umich.edu>
Time/Date: 2:30 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

Hey carly, goo one, but you are absolutely wrong on disagreeing with the 
song #36.  It was kinda funny how you rambled on about knowing dave so 
well and it was obvious from the beginning that you made a blatant 
mistake in the song title.  There are two songs, #34 and #36.  The later 
is a tribute to Chris Hani. (Hani,Hani,Hani).  Sorry for making it 
public, but, it thought it would be necessary since you tried to profess 
your knowledge on the net.  Bite your tongue, and try not to make this 
kind of mistake in the future, for, you sounded pretty stupid. (Was this 
a little harsh?)  I just found it kinda amusing.
	Saying Goddb ye,
	Kyle


Posted By: Sarah Hall <halls@alleg.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:31 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: My first message!!!

Howdy to you all out there!

This is my first message with you guys and it's really weird to be  
writing to lots of people that I don't even know!  But I have done  
much stranger things in the past....

I first wanted to ask some really stupid questions.  I'm not really  
all that familiar with DMB and I just wanted to know more about them  
(is that even the right pronoun to use???).  I've heard them on a  
couple of different occasions and thought that Dave sounded  
incredible along with the rest of the band, but I don't have any of  
their stuff and I sure as hell couldn't come up with any kind of  
lyrics like I notice that most of you do (even if it IS from The  
Cure!!).  I hope that I'm not earning your ridicule for saying that,  
just know that I am making a serious attempt at making myself less  
ignorant!!

So I guess that because this stuff is completely relevant and that  
this is the whole purpose of this mailing list thing, I thought that  
now would be as good a time as any to make a complete fool of myself  
by asking!!!

So, I wish you all sunshine-y days and know that it doesn't just come  
from the outside!!!!

Sarah (alias Queen of the Damned)


Posted By: Gavin Leo-Rhynie <rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com>
Time/Date: 3:13 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

>y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
>net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
>they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
>redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he can't
>even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
>watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told
>me a couple months ago why this number was so important to him.  not to get
>picky, but everybody else does, so why not join in...
>carly
>cjacobs@smith.smith.edu

Aren't #34 and #36 two DIFFERENT songs? One (#34) is an instrumental on UTTAD,
and #36
(which I've never heard, but is in the lyrics file) is unreleased.

The following is an excerpt from the lyrics file:
============================================================================
#36  (sweetbriar, 2-25-94)

{christopher [sabec] says this is about chris hani....pronounced hah-nee
which would explain the chorus.......
but needless to say this version needs work, as clear as it is...
so decide as you will...}


[    ] yeah yeah i scream...
with you on my mind so heavy and so hard
i don't know quite everything
you make me think of a better thing
better things to fill my day with
but they don't mean to go
please don't be too bad with me, god
please don't be too good...
let some women's light, women's light
chain my hands with me singing
hani hani, come and dance for me
whoa, whoa, sooner there
hani hani, come and dance for me
only the brave
hani hani, come and dance for me
[feeling the night]
hani hani coem and dance for me
lead me back home to life

============================================================================


Hopefully I'm not the one who is confused :-)

Gavin


Posted By: Merta@Microserve.com (Merta)
Time/Date: 3:19 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: 10-1-94 Dat trade

Recently a Dat trade that I set up fell through so if any of you dat traders
would like to get a DAT of 10-1-94 at the TLA in Philly email me and well set
something up.
                         peace out
                                   patrick




================================================================================
* And when the sun it turns to snow          * In the Wilkes Barre, Pa Area?  *
* And the grass doesn't grow                 * Surrender to the Phlow!!!      *
* Don't laugh i love you   -Deen & Gene Ween * Every Sat nite 10-2 88.5 WRKC  *
===============================================================================
Patrick Jordan Jr. * e-mail: MERTA@microserve.com * Why U no rasta????????    *
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Posted By: Jamie Michelle Burkitt <jmb8@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 3:20 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

I thought there was a #34 and a #36, #34 being the one on the album, and 
#36 being one with lyrics that I've heard them play (and introduce as 
#36) at quite a few shows.  Maybe I'm wrong....  Anyone else got an idea?


Posted By: EJ_Tiedeken@ACAD.FANDM.EDU (Eric J. Tiedeken)
Time/Date: 3:21 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: ******DaveBase Information Sign Up******

Yes,
        DaveBase is almost under way. This is a sign up to help out us who
are putting this together. If you can help us, this is what we are asking
of you:

1. To be able to compile setlists and dates from the years 91-present(this
edition will run through 12/31/94)

2. Pick a year and a section a,b, or c, of which you can submit the most shows
        a) january 1st-may 30th
        b) june 1st-august 31st
        c) septmber 1st-december 31st

3. we will hope that you will be able to come through
        IMPORTANT: PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP IF YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO SUBMIT INFORMATION BEFORE THE INFORMATION DEADLINE!!!!!!!!!!

4. The first 12 people that answer will be our "little helpers"(this is the
season to 'Eat Drink, and be Merry')

5. If you have any suggestions about adding stuff to the first version of
DaveBase, send to:
                        T_Arumugaraj@acad.fandm.edu
- no later than December 16th at 12:00 p.m

********************************************************************************
                                Form

Name:
E-Mail address:
Snail Mail Address:


Year:
Section:
Phone Number:

********************************************************************************

If there are too many people that sign up for one section, we will get back
to you on helping out in another section.

Deadline: Wednesday, December 16th

Information deadline: January 24th at 12:00 a.m.


Posted By: Sara.E.Burch@Dartmouth.EDU (Sara E. Burch)
Time/Date: 3:31 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: LOVE, LOVE, LOVE......

hi again!
i've gathered that the new years eve topic heading has gotten me nowhere,
'cause you all are passing me by. i hope i have you're attention now. i was
at n.y.e. last year and it was undoubtedly one of the best times had by many.
i couldn't get tickets for this year in time. i'd go to great
lengths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!! to repay anyone who has extras. be creative...let me know. please respond
if you have alead on any tix! 
your friend in hanover,
sara


Posted By: kac868@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 3:37 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: DMB w/Big Head Todd

Hi!
I do concerts at Northwestern U in Chicago and may have the opportunity to do
dmb supporting Big Head and The Monsters in February.  What do you think?  I
have never seen them but would like to.  What will their response be in
Chicago? Have they played Chicago other than the show at the Vic in November?

Let me know

Jake


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 3:59 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: digest 359

could someone send me digest 359

thanks

sean

                -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 4:04 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: travelling all the way to wait just to see dave sing "i once had a girl"????

>but..  he did do a norweigian wood at the wake forest.  as a whole recently
>wasn't as good as lex, but that was worth it. :)

THAT'S dedication. :)
>
>I wonder if they've thought of/tried to do the whole song as a cover..  I
>don't want to start another comparison thread (ie - the stuff about the
>beatles and led zep), but I really do think they could do some awesome covers
>of beatles tunes...

personally, i'd like to hear them do all of norwegian wood to the tune
of recently.  THAT would be weird.  

but i have this feeling that dave's humility is going to keep us from
ever seeing anything like that.  he absolutely worshipped the beatles
for something like 8 years of his life.  the whole reason he never did
me & julio again is because he felt he wasn't doing s & g justice, so
there's no telling how nervous he'd feel when it comes to anything by
the beatles.
>

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 4:06 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: i can feel the distance getting close

On Sun, 4 Dec 1994 REIDENOUE@urvax.urich.edu wrote:

> area.  Oh yeah - one more thing:  3rd St.'s cool and all, but how about 
> some other fine places?  I'd feel kind of funny at 3rd St. in a shirt and 
> tie (and pants).  How about Bottom's Up, Coyote, Richbrau, or something 
> like that?  Just throwing out suggestions...
> Jon

third street. the diner. ther e is no other decision to make. honestly.
any input form other richmond-crowd pholks?!?! i'm sure they'll all 
agree... and i love rick's idea about the balcony hthing! SO COOL!!!

as for attire at our precious diner... ther eis no reason we can't be 
dressed up.
i've worn a red strapless formal, pearls, and satin heels into the diner 
before and fit in just fine. i've also worn phishnets and combat boots in there
(hee heee buford had on combat boots, too) and we fit in better in that attire 
than ever before!!!

jon and i have since decided, that we will prolly end up at the diner.. 
but he is allowed to bring some bottoms up pizza along with him if i buy 
him a cup of coffe.. the deal is done.
[spit, shake]

fun fun fun fun.. i am so happy just because i am so happy about life and 
my poem about eschatology!!!

love and seashells.... clare emily

*******************************************************************************
'i am not interested so much in what i do with my hands or words as what i do
with my heart. i want to live from the inside out, not the outiside in.' -h.p.

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: Benjamin Booth <benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu>
Time/Date: 4:17 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

I don't want to start another war, but it just seems funny that you would 
post this to the net without knowing that there is a song #36 AND a song 
#34.  What can I say, they like naming their songs after non-prime even 
numbers between 30 and 40 (that means, coming up #32 and #38!!!!!)

Ben


On Mon, 5 Dec 1994 CJACOBS@smith.smith.edu wrote:

> y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
> net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
> they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
> redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he can't
> even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
> watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told
> me a couple months ago why this number was so important to him.  not to get
> picky, but everybody else does, so why not join in...
> 
> oh yeah, and about the led zepplin and beatles comparison...to the young man
> who said he loved ALL of dave's stuff, i just want to say that's it's OKAY
> not to.  in order to have really yummy songs you have to have less than yummy
> songs and, i admit, they do (i.e. lover lay down).  and it's quite alright not
> to orgasm after each individual song.  that's all.
> 
> have a lovely day,
> carly
> cjacobs@smith.smith.edu
> 



				      ***************************
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	 "Junior LOVES ya baby"	      **** benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu ***** 	
					 ******** bbooth1@cc.swarthmore.edu *	
						****** (610) 690 - 3772 *****
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Posted By: "--->Mr. White<bell8779@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU
Time/Date: 4:23 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: zep...

About all that shit floating around on the net about the comparison 
between Zep, Beatles, and DMB...who really gives a shit, i mean, all 
three are great bands, and all should be given the credit they deserve... 
thats my thoughts on this...later...
Mr.White. 

also, get off the Pulp Fiction quote thing ie...quarter pounder with 
cheese, it was a great movie, but that is getting old, thanks...


Posted By: shaft <KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 4:28 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Huh?

Um, Carly, when you say that the song is #34 and not #36, do you mean on UTTAD
or that there is no song titled #36? If it's the latter you're intending, I
think YOU need to brush up on a little Dave knowledge. DMB has been playing #36
for quite some time now and it is by no means the same song as #34. If it was
the former you were intending then I apologize. I'm sorry to waste everybody's
time with this li'l piece o' obvious info but I'm trying to avoid studying. I
agree with those who think that we should all meet before the V-day show and
the place w/ the balcony sounds tres cool. Since I shelled out $95 I think I'll
go ahead and throw on a tie & jacket. I'm really looking forward to this show,
and it better be good considering I'll have two months on anticipation built up
beforehand, but I'm expecting that it will be a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
I hope we can get this li'l pre-show social event going, I'd really like to
meet all o' you folks (even the ones who flame me, which should be most of you)
especially since I missed my opportunity at Lex. Well, back to the hellish
existence that is the last week of classes. Does anyone else have a shitload of
make-up work to due before exams?
						Long live the wiener dog!
							Kev :-Q

"Gee Ricky, I'm really sorry your mom blew up"
					-Not Dave

As always, for your convenience wholesale cultivation of deadly cancerous
tumors through the inhalation of tobacco combustion by-products IS allowed in
my messages. Except Clare, smoking in my messages is completely harmless to
your system, enjoy! :-)


Posted By: press@lip.wustl.edu (Bill Press)
Time/Date: 4:30 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

> y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
> net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
> they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
> redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he can't
> even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
> watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told
> me a couple months ago why this number was so important to him.  not to get
> picky, but everybody else does, so why not join in...

#34 and #36 are two different songs. When I saw Dave in St Louis (great
show), he said "This song is called #36. It's about relaxing and having
fun and making babies."

	Bill


Posted By: William Dow <jugular@rhf.bradley.edu>
Time/Date: 4:37 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: newbie questions...

hey low all-
i'm just a new guy around here, and i've got a couple questions for any 
of the veterans out there.  i've never seen dave live, and i was 
wondering who sings the harmony vocals...on i'll back you up, i think, 
and on sattelite, it sounds a lot like dave singing both the harmonies 
and the leads...is this a studio overdub, or is there another singer in 
the band?

a second question...i was wondering how i could get a hold of a couple of 
really good dave live tapes.  i'm wondering if anyone has a good copy of 
any of dave's acoustic shows, which i understand he has done with tim 
reynolds.  i'd also like to pick up the best show any of you may have.  
i'm not really interested in starting a whole collection, i'm just 
curious to hear some of the unreleased material, and how some of the 
songs are interpreted live...
so.....if there is any kind soul out there who could help me out, that 
would be great...i don't really have much to offer in trade...the only 
boots i have have already been posted to this list by a friend of mine 
(HI TJ!), but in case anyone didn't see, and is interested, i have a 
really good double disc cd of u2 live at the rosemont horizon in chicago, 
on april 27th, 1987, and a copy of the rem mtv unplugged show, which 
contains the full show, not  just the songs on mtv.  for any u2 fans out 
there, i also have something called "unreleased album", which is a 
partial copy of the stolen demoes from the achtung sessions.  

if anyone knows any of these answers, or is interested in anything, 
please drop me a line...
thanks
bill


Posted By: lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu (Laura Elizabeth Morgan)
Time/Date: 4:55 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: first Dave

hi

  I had my first live Dave experience the other night, and I was quite
impressed. I had high hopes, too, from this Net's glowing descriptions and
the tapes I have. They sounded great. San Jose, opening for Phish:

Seek Up, Best, Rhyme, Watchtower, Recently, True Reflections, Ants

  The crowd, especially the floor, got pretty into it. Cheers for
Watchtower and Ants. Dave used the line about cheese and, at one point,
said, "We're pretty nervous 'cause we don't know y'all."
  'Recently' had some odd quirks I'd never heard: they'd stop and feature a
simple fill by Carter, towards the end. 

  They packed the Great American Music Hall Sunday night. A good part of
the crowd seemed to know most of the songs. A row of screaming girls in the
front row singing along must have made him feel at home. They jammed! The
list and some notes:

Seek Up
Nancing Nancies >   (with odd vocal improv intro before Could I Have Been...)
Warehouse
Best
Rhyme
Jimi Thing
Satellite  (with Dave noodling around the theme to open, teasing the crowd)
Get in Line  (first time I heard this - neat song)
True Reflections
"One thing leads to another and we're fucking the night away. So, here's a
song about it,"
Say Goodbye
Minarets  (features Tomorrow Never Knows quote as intro)
Typical Situation
Tripping Billies
Recently  (Norwegian Wood quote intro)
#36   (yes! my favorite song. This song is really evolving)
Ants

Christmas Song
Watchtower  (and the crowd goes wild)

I noticed 'Recently' again last night had some quirks. Just before the last
"Yeah, Yeah" they brought it down to a brief solo by Carter. The crowd
seemed to love Boyd, above whom we were seated. We could see Dave turn
around and smile and make faces at Carter.
Other Davespeak: "We're pretty fucking tired from walking around San Francisco."
  Thank you, Minarets, for turning me on to this band!
 
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< Joe & Laura ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< 


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 5:03 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: chords file

Someone needs to change the transcription of Say Goodbye to include the 
inter-slide to C...

  A   slide to C, then A to  E     
e----------------------------------------------------------------
B----------------------------------------------------------------
G---6/x-------------6/13----11-----------------------------------
D---7/10------------7/14----12-----------------------------------
A---4/7-------------4/11-----9-----------------------------------
E---5/8-------------5/12----10----------------------------------- 
               
also the funky ants intro is:

p=pull off
e----------------------------------------
B----------------------------------------
G----------------------------------------
D----12----10---9---7---5---3---3p0------
A----------------------------------------
E----------------------------------------

also, for the person who had recently written down, why don't you post it 
and let us correct it (if need be) so I don't have to type it all in.

sean


ps - thanks for correcting the "Typical" file, it was annoying me.

		 -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:09 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: (remember) 2 things...

Rick "JustaJam SillyBoy" Thompson says:

>>Intro to...
>>Satellite
>ami missing somthing?  when did satelite gain an intro?

As far as I can tell, the 'old' intro was where he played the chorus part
('winter's cold...') and then one line of 'look up look down all around
sa-tel-lite', and into the riff... but maybe he just means the riff over and
over as the intro...

Malachi: when you say tripping billies intro, do you mean with screams?!?!?!
that would be NEATO.

and...

CJACOBS@smith.smith.edu says:

>y'all-- it's #34, not 36.  i constantly run inot people at shows or these
>net deals who profess their insurmountable knowledge about dave matthews and
>they go on and on about this and that, some of it interesting, and some
>redundant and a boy tells you all to spell dave matthews right  when he
can't
>even spell stefan's name, and all i want to throw in, after sitting back and
>watching for a while, that the song is #34.  i know this because carter told
>me a couple months ago why this number was so important to him.  not to get
>picky, but everybody else does, so why not join in...

(btw sorry if the quoting here might be a little screwy...)

Carly, you may love my kerouac, but, er... i think you might be a bit
confused.  There are 2 songs.  #34 and #36.  #34 is on the CD (sans vocals).
 #36 is a super happy jammy tune that is dedicated to chris hani (much like
#34 is dedicated to miguel vasquez).

and didn't rick or some other knowitall (tee hee) conjecture that the numbers
simply were the number of the song? for instance (get ready for some math
now) #34 is the 34th song the band wrote?


peace and ice skating in richmond,
ben


just another memo from the cellar,

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   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: Tom Schwenk <trs9y@sunipc-3.unixlab.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 5:28 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: dave talk

Hey-

	The DaveTalk thing got me thinking.  I remember being at Trax one
Tuesday night (must've been late '92 or early '93) and Dave said this (as
best as I can recall) about a recent jam with BT at the Wetlands...
	"We were up in New York, jammin with John Popper, and some members
	of Phish...Then I looked down and realized I wasn't wearing any pants."
Anyone else remember this?  Better yet, anyone have a tape of it?  I wouldn't
mind trading for a copy of this show.  That particular excerpt would also make
a handsome addition to the Dave Speak file.

			-later

======================================================================
                         
     "...You can't have everything.  Where would you put it?..."

						-Steven Wright

Tom Schwenk
trs9y@sunipc-3.unixlab.virginia.edu
http://fulton.seas.virginia.edu/~trs9y/

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Posted By: JONICOTRA@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Time/Date: 5:29 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Ritz power jam

Hey all... i remember a long time ago I'd heard about this show, (it was after
the Phish show i saw at the roseland) and forgot about its existance....but
now i would really love to hear it... does anyone have a nice crisp copy 
of it? I have phish, Dave, Panic, ARU Jambay, and leftover salmon to trade.

let me know
josh

and if RCA thinks they could disband minarets... HA HA HA HA


Posted By: lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu (Laura Elizabeth Morgan)
Time/Date: 5:52 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Satellite intro plus

hi

Sorry I posted the whole setlist to SF. I hadn't received Malachi's yet. A
couple of clarifications:

Rick responding to Malachi:
>Intro to...
>Satellite
ami missing somthing?  when did satelite gain an intro?

  Dave definitely noodled for about 30 seconds without Boyd with cheers
from the crowd anticipating Satellite. I hadn't heard it like this before.
  As I noted, he did quote Norwegian Wood. I had never before heard him
quote Tomorrow Never Knows, however. "Turn off your mind, relax and float
down stream..."
  Dave is clearly not stagnating. I have some tapes through Spring and
Summer,  and both #36 and Recently, and even Ants have shown evolution
since then. The two versions of Watchtower I saw back to back were also
different; not massively so, but this band PLAYS LIVE IMPROVISATIONAL
MUSIC, for sure.
  Again, thanks for turning me on this band and sharing your tapes, too.
  Towards the end of the show last night, Laura passed me a note. She said,
"they'll get bigger than Phish." She may be right. 
 
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< Joe & Laura ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< 


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 6:30 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: carpenter center shitty? i doubt it.

>Am I still dazed, or did somebody else out there just shell out $95 for two
>really shitty seats for the Valentines Day show?  
1)if you payed the $47.50 price than it's impossible that your seats are
shitty in even the carpenter center context of the word shitty.  and on
that note:
2)the carpenter center is anything but shitty.  this isn't your avg
venue.  we're talking an opera hall here, where the richmond symphony
orchestra plays whenever it plays.  it's the sort of place where many
an architect worked with 19th and early 20th century labor intensive
ethics to make the place as perfect as possible.
there's pretty much no way to describe just how much shittier $53 seats (not)
to nye are going to be.  the only advantage there is free beer, which 
still shafts underage people (not) and people who choose not to drink.
this is also dave matthews with the richmond symphony orchestra, so you
need not bitch until your actually there and still not satisfied.  (NOT)

>show, but I kind of wish that I had known ahead of time what I was going to be
>taken for. The sad thing is, I bought them on Saturday, relatively early, and I
i bought mine on saturday afternoon around 1, and i'm perfectly happy with 
mine, so i have no clue where you are coming from on this.


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: kmk4g@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 7:11 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: blake campbell

couls someone please help me get blake's phone number!!!!???!
(clare, i lost your address)         he has owed me tapes since
mid--APRIL!!!!!!     8 months!!!!       He also owes tapes to
many other people.          Anybody who can contact him, please
tell him he's a lazy fuck!!!!  (i'm sure he knows it though.)   

      wake up blake!!!!!!!!!!

--kerry
                             **taboot**


Posted By: "***\"MR.WHITE\"***" <bell8779@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:13 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: zep...

what is all this shit about comparing zep, the Beatles, and DMB...they 
are all great bands that have done great work, why are people aruing 
about this...lets just give it a rest...
also lets give the 1/4 pounder thing a rest... it was indeed a great 
movie but that quote from it is getting kinda old...oh, by the way, good 
luck on finals...
Mr.White


Posted By: sayat.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Sayat)
Time/Date: 7:54 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: MTV

Along with DMB's "What Would You Say", I guess we can throw another HORDE
band video into the future MTV buzz bin.

Tonight Rusted Root is in concert here in Columbus (for 5 bucks!) and
earlier today they had a nice little interview on WWCD 101.1 FM.  They said
that they just finished making a video for "Send Me On My Way", which
includes (did I hear right?) Art Garfunkel and space aliens?!!

Anyway I'm hoping that by making these videos, DMB and Root don't follow the
Spin Doctors in their descent into cheeziness.
Instead I'm hoping that they'll make videos with integrity like Big Head
Todd and Blues Traveler (whose videos, I am happy to say, did not blow up
despite some MTV airtime).  By not blowing up, these bands have stayed close
to their loyal fan base and seem content with just that.  I mean how many
other bands encourage you to tape their shows etc?

Peace out,
Jon


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu (Scott Miller)
Time/Date: 8:08 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Tape Date Needed

Well,
        Thanks to everyone for responding about my rhyme and reason 
question.  Now I thought I would leech a little more info.  I don't have the 
date for the show that that version of the song is on.  I got the tape while 
I was in high school and it was such an awe inspiring event that I wasn't 
even concerned about where or when it was taped,  it didn' matter,  it was 
Dave On Tape!!!
        Anyway here's some info that might help you all with extensive 
collections.

Doug Wannabaker from idecision plays instead of Peter
Before he plays I'll Back You Up,  he says "because the pagentry implies we 
should be in loud and crazy moods I thought I would play a love song,  
theres no better reason,  no better time."
In the middle of I'll Back You Up,  Stefan has super high bass solo,  I mean 
it sounds like he's playing         down around the 10th or 12th fret,  it's 
just he and Dave playing.
They begin Ants Marching by playing the 2001 theme (awesome!)
Before he plays Warehouse,  he grumbles,  "This is the Warehouse,  broken 
windows!"
They thank everyone for bringing their "bar hopping little frenzy down 
here",  I don't know where here is?


Set List:
Recently
True Reflections
Ants Marching
Warehouse
I'll Back You Up
Granny
Tripping Billies
One Sweet World
Lie In Our Graves
Rhyme & Reason (the funky way)

        If this is familiar to anyone,  I would love to know the date and 
location of the show.  This could also be an incomplete set list,  its at 
least a 4th generation tape and the guy I got them from of not taping whole 
tapes.  He would just get the songs he liked.  Thanks for the help guys.
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 8:18 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Here's some news...

Well, The Dave Matthews Band has made it onto their first (I think) 
compilation album.  Nobody get excited, but WVGO, 106.5 in Richmond, has
produced a Christmas CD of local artists.  The last song on the CD is, you
guessed it, Christmas Song, the exact version from R2T.  If anyone is 
interested in picking up what sounds like a fine yule tide collection it is
available only at the Chesterfield Town Center's Information "Kiosk".  I 
think a kiosk is somewhere in between a booth and a pavilion, but I'm not
sure.  Anyway, it's probably like 12 or 15 bucks, goes to charity I think, 
and I have no idea who else is on it, but there is definitely some music
from The Nutcracker in addition to the usual Christmas faves.  No, I don't 
think the one DMB song will persuade me to buy it, but it sounds nice.
Gotta go...

Greg


Posted By: Matthew Thompson <matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU>
Time/Date: 8:18 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Re: zep...

> 
> About all that shit floating around on the net about the comparison 
> between Zep, Beatles, and DMB...who really gives a shit, i mean, all 
> three are great bands, and all should be given the credit they deserve... 
> thats my thoughts on this...later...
> Mr.White. 
> 
> also, get off the Pulp Fiction quote thing ie...quarter pounder with 
> cheese, it was a great movie, but that is getting old, thanks...
> 

Easy, Tiger.

Matt


Posted By: kac868@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 8:57 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: thanks for responses

just wanted to thank all those that responded so quickly to my post re: dmb
w/Big Head Todd.  Hope to see them soom in Chicago.

jake


Posted By: KAPLANJF@RASCAL.GUILFORD.EDU (The Fly)
Time/Date: 9:20 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Tape trade...

Hiya DMB fans!...I am interested in finding tapes with the 
following songs that DMB has done:

Covers:
The Redemption Song
Exodus
Me & Julio
Sweet Home Alabama
Sympathy for the Devil
Tangerine
2001/Dueling Banjos jam (Opening for Ants Marching)

Originals:
Drive In Drive Out
Any Noise/Anti Noise

If any of you have quality tapes of shows in which any of those 
songs were played, I would be very interested in trading with 
you...I have about 10 or so tapes now...And I will send my list 
to anyone who would like to trade...As I said, I am only 
interested in good quality tapes.

Jeff


Posted By: Joseph Vastol <vastolj@alleg.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:21 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: 11.17.92 and 7.14.93/p.p.s to Ian Bassin/minarguets.net?

Very quickly,
	I have established a very nice dave collection in my eyes.  However,  
through the net I have realized I am missing two essentials - 11.17.92 and  
7.14.93.  I really think I need 'em.  I also have some RR if this helps.  I  
don't want to advertise everything I have - that would be annoying for all but  
I would like to set this one up with someone out there.
	
	on my way,
	joe
	
	See ya at the Marriot!
	
	p.p.s Ian they're on their way.
	p.p.p.s can you say, let's argue about everything?!  clare please shape  
things up quick! :)


Posted By: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 9:38 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: Dress for V-Day!

Grand idea.. and why not? I've the perfect red tie, dark socks
with hearts, a really suave jacket, some moose.. ohh... this
could be fun. :) don't forget your specktacles & spy glasses.

     Ellis "of Lemuria" Godard   jeg5s@virginia.edu
       P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA, 22903
  Graduate Program in Sociology, University of Virginia
FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digest
     Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...


Posted By: Wojkowsk@cleo.bc.edu
Time/Date: 9:38 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: holiday spirit

Hello all

The holidays are upon us (finals too), and I would like to get some new 
tapes to give to some of my friends (Nick and Eric).  I have 21 hours of 
GSW to trade, plus 75 hours of Phish, but only six hours of DMB.  In 
particular I am looking for:

11/12/93 Paradise, Boston, MA
8/31/94 Jones Beach, Wantagh, NY
10/8/94 Avalon, Boston, MA

Of course if you have anything else sweet it would be most apriecated (sp).  
Please e-mail me directly at Wojkowsk@Cleo.Bc.Edu

Thanks in advance and happy holidays!

Woj


Posted By: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:43 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: numerology andall...

>  As I noted, he did quote Norwegian Wood. I had never before heard him
>quote Tomorrow Never Knows, however. "Turn off your mind, relax and float
>down stream..."

wow.  wowowowowowowowowowow.  WOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!
does anybody know the last time dave did a tomorrow never knows quote?
to me it's such an important part of the song, and in the period b/w
him quoting it and creating the rap, i felt that minarets kind of lost
something.  (or did he quote tnk during satelite.  what did you say?)

anyway...

>  Dave is clearly not stagnating. 
and on that note, more on varied setlists:  when was the last time
they played halloween?

>"they'll get bigger than Phish." She may be right. 
well, turns out that phish nye tickets are the hottest tickets selling
in the country right now in terms of scalpers r us.  the cheapest you
will find them is $150.  dave will be bigger than phish, but i have 
a feeling that by then it won't be easy to compare the two.


and as promised in the subject line:  numerology!!!!!!

(yippee!!)

well, first of all, i'd have to say i'm damn glad i'm not digestified
anymore.  the last digest (this digest?) must be absolute hell and
all talking about the differences b/w #34 and #36 (something that is
CLEARLY, CLEARLY, CLEARLY, CLEARLY, AND EFFECTIVELY explained IN DETAIL--
if you are clueless, please inform me or daniel blanchat and we will
be happy to send you a copy.)

BUT, did you know that there actually did used to be a #32?  i'm pretty
sure it was cry freedom before it gained lyrics, but i may be wrong.
but i know there used to be a #32, and i think their was a #33 at one
point.  anyway, somebody in the know tell us what song was premiered
between #34 and #36.  (hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....maybe i can figure this out.
#34 was brought out in april or so of '93 right after miguel died.
i know #36 was played 7-27-93, so what came between the two?)

my guess is granny.  even though granny came before christmas song
originally, they didn't really set it up full band until april/may
1993.  anyone concur, disagree?

so, granny is #35.
i suppose that could make christmas song #33.
(we're eventually going to get anal enough to want all of this
useless info in the dave.base, so why not start now?)
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 9:55 PM Monday, Decemebr 5, 1994
Subject: you did what? yup. no way. yup. sure? nope. ahhhhh ok. i get it.

lots of things to say here. 

on the whole #34 thing. it's dedicated to miguel VALDEZ benjamin... not 
vasquez you silly poop! (it's ok.. iknow ben i'm teasin him...) and i'm 
happy to hear you've warmed up to the idea of ice skating in richmond 
with me.. YIPPEE!! fun fun fun

rick.. i think i've got a recently somewhere with a norwegian wood in 
it.. but i don't kno wthe date exactly or know if i actually do maybe i 
should go find out but i have no spare time. ARGH!


davebase? what's this all about? is this not the first sign of this thing 
or did a sneaky angel snatch a previous msg about this from my inbox when 
i wasn't looking? huh?  i guess the 'warehouse' that was being compiled 
by blake has not been integrated with this davebase thing did both of 
these people know each had already started this task?

someone asked who sang the backup vocals on satellite and i'll back you 
up and that be carter 'the man' beauford. and i'll tell you a funny 
little story about carter and his backup vocals (i dont' think this is 
breeching any kind of ethics). 
 carter is a man with a beautiful soul and his smile shines happiness 
with his playing as well as when he's nto playing. he has always been one 
of my favorite band members to spend time with (discounting the leroi 
bourbon drinking story of dec '93). regardless whenever possible at a 
show i always spend a little time with carter if time permits. at the 
brown's island show of late jul '94 carter and i spent nearly an hour 
jsut babbling to eachother little stuffs over evian and orange juice. 
(everybody loves my pearls!) and he said to me then, that he had been 
singing the backup vocals to satellite wrong for years and never known it 
until steve lillywhite said to him during the bearsville UTTAD recording 
[insert carter imitating lillywhite's english accent] 'carter? what are 
you bloody singing back there?' or something to that matter... hee hee it 
was so funny.. carter was laughin lots as he told this story.. and he 
started to sing where he'd been fuckign up...'winter's gone...' and i 
sang along with him, 'spring erases'... when he just stared at me 
agahstly! he then hit me in the arm and said, 'dammit clare.. you even 
know the right words!' he had been singing 'winters gone, spring is here' 
for nearly (what.. say about...)3 years?! hee heee it's so funny and i 
thought i'd share one of my many band member frolics with you all so you 
could also share in the fun. fun fun fun.

i think i've babbled too much. 
to quote our fellow netter adam vann:
  '45 pages to write, 15 days to go, full tank of gas, half a pack of
   cigarettes, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses.'
hee hee 
i love that adam!!
thnks to all out there who love me......(it sure makes a person feel good 
and you all know who you are and those general others stuffss....)

patchouli back rubs and poetry...
clare emily the little engine that could

*******************************************************************************
'march on. do not tarry. to go forward is to move toward perfection. march on,
  and fear not the thorns or the sharp stones on Life's path.' -kahlil gibran

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 11:30 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: more clarifying on older version of songs....

>In the middle of I'll Back You Up,  Stefan has super high bass solo,  I mean 
>it sounds like he's playing         down around the 10th or 12th fret,  it's 
>just he and Dave playing.
sorry, scott, but this won't narrow it down.  this is the way the song was
done before dave handed the solo section over to tim reynolds on r2t.
this is something i miss.

>They begin Ants Marching by playing the 2001 theme (awesome!)
>Before he plays Warehouse,  he grumbles,  "This is the Warehouse,  broken 
>windows!"

and this isn't going to narrow it down either.  they used to due 
2001-->ants alot, and some of them were pretty crazy.  some of the
fill from peter on big league chew fills it out nicely.

i'd have to say the key to identifying this tape would be the setlist
combined with the fact that doug wannamaker played the show.  anyone know?
also, if you don't find out within the next week or so, go ahead and
inform everyone just exactly when you got the tape, so that everyone
knows the cutoff date for how old the tape is.


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Sara.E.Burch@Dartmouth.EDU (Sara E. Burch)
Time/Date: 11:32 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: #30 something

#36 is about relaxing....among other things. i think a few of you who've
recently posted (i.e. kyle and kev-q) could strongly benefit from listening
to it a couple of times. i had phishnet flashbacks after reading my last
digest. we're all friends here....(by the way, a ticket for n.y. would be
greatly appreciated!) and the "who knows dave better" contest is most uncool. 
carly, i will back you up.......
:-) sara


Posted By: msweeney@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu
Time/Date: 11:36 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: to fans of the crow comic

> 
> hello minareters i posted this here at the radford news group and then
> thought there might be some people on the net who might be interested.
> i can pick people up who are along the way (exit 109 on 81 to 66 to 495
> to 270).  for those in the DC area who are interested in this the
> signing is from 5-9 on sat. at Zenith Comics in Olney MD (call them at
> 301-774-1358 for details).  I don't work for Zenith i'm just really good
> freinds with the manager.  so if you're interested let me know.
> 
> 
> hello all
> 	At around 10am sat. I'm going to be makeing a 4 1/2 hour trek to
> DC to meet James O'Barr (writer/artist/creator of the crow comic [yeah
> the same comic that was later made into a movie]).  I was planning on
> going with a freind but he has finals early monday that he has to study
> for.  I'm looking for someone to help with gas money.  It should be
> about $30 total (split that's about $15 not to bad).  The main thing is
> that I'm not only going to this signing but i'm acctually working it
> (it's good to have connections).  So i'm going to have to be there from
> 4pm till about 10pm (the signing is from 5-9 but i need to be there
> early and might be there late).  I have no idea if i'm speanding the
> night in DC so if you need to be back by oh 4am sunday we could possibly
> make it.  If anyone is interested let me know via email
> (msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu) or phone (703-831-2560).  bye
> 
> matt
> -- 
> msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu                        Matt Sweeney
> adminisrator for the H.O.R.D.E. address list         Radford Univ.
> email for latest version     "All I want is food and creative love" RR
> 


Posted By: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 11:41 PM Monday, December 5, 1994
Subject: jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way...

>
>Well, The Dave Matthews Band has made it onto their first (I think) 
>compilation album.  

nope.  they got (of all tunes) jimithing on the last edition of cmj 
(college music journal)'s certain damage.  this is prolly why it was
heard on whfs last week.  personally, i find this more terrifying than
them making that z 100 station or whatever.  cmj are the ones who turned
nirvana, pearl jam, the breeders, and whatever other grunge suits your
fancy so monstrous.

>Nobody get excited, but WVGO, 106.5 in Richmond, has
>produced a Christmas CD of local artists.  The last song on the CD is, you
>guessed it, Christmas Song, the exact version from R2T.  If anyone is 
>interested in picking up what sounds like a fine yule tide collection it is
>available only at the Chesterfield Town Center's Information "Kiosk".  I 
>think a kiosk is somewhere in between a booth and a pavilion, but I'm not
>sure.  
it's a four sided information center and the term originates in france, 
i believe.  (hellooooooo, mr kings dominion...:)

>Anyway, it's probably like 12 or 15 bucks, goes to charity I think, 
>and I have no idea who else is on it, but there is definitely some music
>from The Nutcracker in addition to the usual Christmas faves.  No, I don't 
>think the one DMB song will persuade me to buy it, but it sounds nice.
>Gotta go...

(did they put the jingle bells produced by fighting gravity?  if any of
you ever go to a record store with a listening bar, check out bobsled,
from back when they were called boy o boy, and listen to their recording
of jingle bells.  it's a classic.:)
>
anyway, i for one trust wvgo's tastes more than just about any other radio
station ever mentioned on this net (except chico's :), so i'd trust it.
at the same time, you have to like x-mas carol's, but eric e. stanley (prime-
time dj)has been introducing dave band at the flood zone and on brown's 
island since i was a wee young'n.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu (Brett)
Time/Date: 12:08 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: digest 359 and whoa....

>could someone send me digest 359
>thanks

I know Ben's mentioned that all posts are archived (on netspace.org?), and
that's where the minarets history posts have come from..  Are the digests
archived as well?

ok, now for my whoa...
I had Shannon Worrell's Three Wishes on..  not really listening to it, but
just as background type music..  Then, for the last 20 seconds of song #6,
Snakebite, I nearly stopped breathing.  I don't want to start any rumors
here, but if anyone who has the album or knows the song knows if there's any
reason to start _assuming_ things, it'd be interesting to hear.

I'm being vague on purpose, sorry..  It's either one hell of a story or would
be one hell of a rumor..  :)

brett k i n g s w e l l

--
you don't have to worry about me
i might have been born yesterday
but i stayed up all night


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 12:08 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: numerology/tarot cards/eschatology/armageddon/reincarnation

let's see.
on numbers.
true reflections was #33

i'm not sre about christmas song and cry freedom..

but about #36.. this is where it gets confusing.
i've got a tape with filler from 6/27/92 whish has #36. and a #36 with 
oteal burridge and mike darrum for that matter!
i was originally quering as to if this tape could have been from 7/27/93, 
but i'm assured by my source that it is not. and i truszt him completely..

anyone have any ideas? huh? huh?

hugs love coffee at the celler (a local b-burg tavern) and lots of poetry 
journals to get my butt in gear...

hugs again to all.... for esme with love and squalor.... 
clareemily

*******************************************************************************
'march on. do not tarry. to go forward is to move toward perfection. march on,
  and fear not the thorns or the sharp stones on Life's path.' -kahlil gibran

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: "ADAM HOLLANDER" <AHOLLAND.97@DIANA.HCHS.HUNTER.CUNY.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:14 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: t-shirts...NY anytime soon?

i've been off the net for a while , so I just have two questions...
1)  Anything going on with t-shirts?
2) Are they coming to NY anytime soon?
thanks,
--adam:-)
"Smoke my mind, make me feel better for a small time"


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 12:33 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: My brain hurts.....

Lesse if I can remember everything..

1)Third Street is the quintesential Richmond hang out. Maybe Clare, Rick, 
and I as ticketless NYE'ers can hang out there and stick our heads out 
the door and listen for the Marriott. 3rd st range of customers goes from 
my parents (40's west end prep) to VCU theatre majors with purple hair 
and pierce tounges. Anyone will fit in, if that concerns you. I 
personally dig the cool watiresses and the latest edition of No Toad 
News, anlong with the vast artistic capabilities (hehe Clare)

2)Bruce Hornsby and the Symphony kicked but, with the symphony doing solo 
stuff first, including my favorite greensleeves. Than made Bruce's work 
sound amazing. Who knows what they will do with Dave's stuff...

3)to Clare especially. The dave.base is Warehouse, because eric and I 
were tired of waiting for MR Campbell to return to this planet (:-)
So we are putting it togethre ourselves.

4)Tommorow Never Knows quote fits perfectly with minarets

> 
5)"> also, get off the Pulp Fiction quote thing ie...quarter pounder with 
> cheese, it was a great movie, but that is getting old, thanks..."
>ooohhhhhh sig dissing  owwww!!!!!
well, it does need updating, but a sig can stay what it wants forever..
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford 							|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
| "The future is no place to place your better days..." 		|
|									|
|v3.1	|-)				David Matthews	 		|
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


Posted By: sctm@vt.edu (Scott Miller)
Time/Date: 12:51 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: New Years Eve left out!

Sir Buford had a wonderful idea!
        I know I didn't get tickets,  they were expensive and not being 21 I 
didn't think it would be worth it,  better spent on the Symphony!  But I 
would love to meet some people,  even if only for a while at 3rd street and 
attempt to listen in on the festivaties.  I don't know if you guys want to 
hang out with me,  but if so it would be cool.  Take it easy!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"
     - Dave Matthews


Posted By: DAMOJONNIER@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 12:56 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: dmb... compilations

someone once wrote:
 
>
>Well, The Dave Matthews Band has made it onto their first (I think)
>compilation album.

> nope.  they got (of all tunes) jimithing on the last edition of cmj
> (college music journal)'s certain damage.

  ...a nice live warehouse can also be found on the "Monitor This!" sampler
from the Record Exchange, a music store of the NC-VA area... it is one of the
best compilations i've everheard and best of all it was free when you bought
a cd by one of the bands on the disc.
      It also included stuff from... dillon fence, june, johnny cash, JOP, 
g.love & special sauce, spearhead, luscious jackson, etc etc etc... highly 
recommended indeed...
       
   ps... here are props for carly concerning 34/36.... everyone makes
         mistakes sometimes and she's a nice girl... a good egg as our 
         damaba friend roxy would say...
                                            until later folks...
================================================================================
"you make the mistake	       	                   disco dan
  & judge a man by his race                        
 you'll go through life                            up for the down stroke       
  with egg on your face"
		-beatsie boys 	                   damojonnier@davidson.edu
================================================================================

			 "Lost in the arms of morpheous -- that somnambulistic
                           state of glorious oblivion......"  -Mr Akins


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Jason Thompson )
Time/Date: 1:56 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: numerology andall...

> >  Dave is clearly not stagnating. 
> and on that note, more on varied setlists:  when was the last time
> they played halloween?
> 
Halloween was part of the encore on 11/17 at the Fox in Boulder.  

And as for the dave conversations about trying to get Drive In Drive Out
back into circulation - he's pulling your leg :)  (he he)
He told me back in May, the weekend before they went to Bearsville to start
recording, that he was planning on gettin DI/DO onto the CD.  I, who at the
time had never heard the song, asked why it wasn't played live very often -
or at least the times I had seen them in Colorado.  He said that it had
some tough changes, and the band needed to work on it some more.  Ahh,
wishfull thinking.....

Take care (of) everyone,
Jason

.sig file available on request.


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 2:16 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Richmond Tree?

It was thinking that, if anyone will be taping the Valentine's Day show
with the Richmond Symphony Orchestra, there would be no better tape to
tree.

Oh well, it was probably a little too early for this, but my hopes are high.

                        Thanks,

                                M A L A C H I
                        /===========================\
                       / Malachi@Leland.Stanford.edu \
                      /              ***              \
                      \           Jeff Heys           /
                       \         PO Box 4867         /
                        \     Stanford, CA 94309    /
                         \=========================/


Posted By: Alexander.R.Vogel@Dartmouth.EDU (Alexander R. Vogel)
Time/Date: 2:34 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject:

Please put me on your mailing list.


Posted By: Craig Mahonchak <mahoncha@nag.cs.colorado.edu>
Time/Date: 4:03 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: SOX program

Does anyone know where I can find the SOX program to convert .au files to
.wav format?

Craig


Posted By: MPOWERS1 <MPOWERS1@ithaca.edu>
Time/Date: 4:10 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: spring tour?

  Hey there, I don't know if this is already know (please excuse me if it is),
but I'm on the Ithaca College Bureau of Concerts here in wonderful upstate
NY and I just got off the phone with DMB's agent Chip Hooper at Monterey
Peninsula Artists.  Anyways, I was checking out to see if the boys were gonna
be available for dates in the spring for Ithaca.  He filled me in that Dave
is gonna be on a double bill with Big Head Todd and the Monsters from Feb to
April.  Just thought I share it.  I talked to B.H.T.'s agent too, and she
confirmed it.  The tour is being planned by Big Head Todd's people.  Hmm.
Well take it easy.  Later.

Mike


Posted By: William Lippe <lippe@u.washington.edu>
Time/Date: 6:18 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Various stuffs, trades..

=09Hi peoples... if you remember me, I had a short stint on the=20
.net, but the owerwhelming amount of repetitive mail forced me off, and=20
then DMB rolled through town and I'm giving it another whirl.  Anyway...

=09I have dats of 11/25/94 Roseland, 11/26/94 Backstage, and=20
11/29/Good Times.  Unfortunately, some of 11/26 and 11/29 has slight=20
popping, most likely because of the 180 min. tapes which, unfortunately=20
were all I had.  If anyone would like to trade for any of these shows=20
drop me a line, and I would gladly trade two or maybe all three for a=20
Dave/Tim, or Dave solo/Band like 5/7?/94?  The release of UTTAD...  I=20
haven't gotten out of my pajamas, and no it's not because of....

=09Other notes...  the infamous black guitar, which was rumoured to=20
be a Washburn, well...  I don't know if it's the same one, but I played a=
=20
black Gibson accoustic with Boyd.  :)

=09Boyd is a really nice guy, same goes for Leroi, and I only=20
briefly met Carter and Stefan.  He talked with me for a while about=20
music, the bands success, and just whatever, then he sang a song with=20
guitar, and I played harmonica.  Boyd has a beautiful voice, and whatever=
=20
it lacks in being perfectly on tune, it's makes up for in tone and=20
feeling.  I wouldn't mind hearing more of him in the future...

=09The video was produced/written/directed?  by the director of=20
Aliens 3, just a little piece of info I picked up...  I haven't seen it,=20
but hope Dave doesn't dive into a furnace/enginewhatever at the end.. :)

=09I'm really realizing now how much I enjoy DMB...  the ride from=20
Eugene to Seattle, (300 mi), was nothing, listening to Dave the entire=20
way.

=09I really doubt these guys will get mega famous..  I just doubt=20
it.. even with all the promo they've got going.  Dave says it best on=20
11/29 "I really like playing in small places like this.  Brings back=20
memories of old times, knowhatimean?"  That's paraphrased, but I just=20
think they'll find their happy medium..  no press hungry rock-star waxes=20
nostalgic over small venues... does just thinking about how purely cool=20
DMB is just make anyone else see hope for the world? :)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---
=D2But a stranger in a strange land, he is no one; men know him not - and=
=20
to know not is to care not for.=D3 - Count D.


Posted By: Dan Schar <dan@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu>
Time/Date: 8:46 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: taping

ok
	i can bring my rig and all into the show right?  I want to make 
sure, i am seein them at the grady cole center in charlotte, and want to 
be sure i can tape.  So, if anyone can tell me, please confirm this with 
me...

dan
*****************************************************************************
Daniel W. Schar Dept. of Biology/Marine Science. University of South Carolina
Internet: dan@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu or dwschar@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu
****************<href="http://tbone.biol.scarolina.edu/~dan"****************


Posted By: i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:01 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: hear, hear...

>
>#36 is about relaxing....among other things. i think a few of you who've
>recently posted (i.e. kyle and kev-q) could strongly benefit from listening
>to it a couple of times. i had phishnet flashbacks after reading my last
>digest. we're all friends here....(by the way, a ticket for n.y. would be
>greatly appreciated!) and the "who knows dave better" contest is most uncool. 
>carly, i will back you up.......
>:-) sara

seriously.  what are the lyrics to aud lang syne?

especially since %99.9 of this net already know the difference between
#36 and #34.  we may be seeing more posts from people who are unclear
to the difference (hopefully not as boisterous:), so next time, try and
send a little note to 'em personally.

besides, we all know that clare would win such a contest, anyway.  :)
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "KIMBERLY J. BURESH" <kburesh@osf1.gmu.edu>
Time/Date: 9:03 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: 11-17-92

Alex and Shelley-----Your tapes are on the way.  Mail me when you get 
them!  -Kim


Posted By: i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:06 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: go away, goawayeagledowow

>let's see.
>on numbers.
>true reflections was #33
>
>i'm not sre about christmas song and cry freedom..
>
>but about #36.. this is where it gets confusing.
>i've got a tape with filler from 6/27/92 whish has #36. and a #36 with 
>oteal burridge and mike darrum for that matter!
>i was originally quering as to if this tape could have been from 7/27/93, 
>but i'm assured by my source that it is not. and i truszt him completely..

i question your sources, too, seeing as they all looked around and confused
and stuff on 7-27-93 as if to say "well, hey, that's a pretty neat riff
dave is kicking out there, let's see what we can do with it."  i also
remember dave standing very close to oteal trying to show him what it
was he was doing.

and i never would've guessed that true reflections was #33, but i can
see that, if cry freedom was #32.

so knows what #1 was?
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "KIMBERLY J. BURESH" <kburesh@osf1.gmu.edu>
Time/Date: 9:16 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: Tape trade...

11-17-92 has a lot of great songs including Me and Julio, Blue Water, 
etc.  If you are interested in trading, write me back.  -Kim


Posted By: i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:17 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: well, look at this way....

>Ahh,
>wishfull thinking.....
>
wishful thinking?  and this conversation was in may??  what happened to
the three months this summer when they spent in studios with all the
intention in the world of "working on songs."

he's pulling your leg.  drive in, drive out isn't that hard to play,
at least not for musicians like them.  it's a little driving, but
considering how tight they used to play it in '92, i don't think it
would take them too much effort.  

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "KIMBERLY J. BURESH" <kburesh@osf1.gmu.edu>
Time/Date: 9:36 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: Tape trade...

On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, KIMBERLY J. BURESH wrote:

> 11-17-92 has a lot of great songs including Me and Julio, Blue Water, 
> etc.  If you are interested in trading, write me back.  -Kim
> 
Whoops!! I was writing to that guy who was looking for specific songs.  
If he sees this write me about a trade.


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 9:49 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: #1 song....

hey there.

 .....beleive the first song to fall from the hand and mind of Mr.
Matthews would be, what the tapers call, "Lovesong." or as the
album declares "I'll Back You Up." heard Dave say it was the first
many times before....PEACE....and by the way, #64 is gonna' be
called " Get me off the road so I can write some new shit...!"

               Dancin' for the Buffalo and the Sea,

                           CHA * *
                               \_/


Posted By: "Adam Vann (BK 1995)" <axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Time/Date: 10:20 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: go away, goawayeagledowow

On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair wrote:

> >let's see.
> >on numbers.
> >true reflections was #33
> >
> >i'm not sre about christmas song and cry freedom..
> >
> >but about #36.. this is where it gets confusing.
> >i've got a tape with filler from 6/27/92 whish has #36. and a #36 with 
> >oteal burridge and mike darrum for that matter!
> >i was originally quering as to if this tape could have been from 7/27/93, 
> >but i'm assured by my source that it is not. and i truszt him completely..
> 
> i question your sources, too, seeing as they all looked around and confused
> and stuff on 7-27-93 as if to say "well, hey, that's a pretty neat riff
> dave is kicking out there, let's see what we can do with it."  i also
> remember dave standing very close to oteal trying to show him what it
> was he was doing.
> 

I've got the same filler. Wade? Wade? Wade?
Actually- I can't hear the ARU guys on the filler. Or maybe I'm just not 
remembering well.


> and i never would've guessed that true reflections was #33, but i can
> see that, if cry freedom was #32.
> 
> so knows what #1 was?

Either I'll Back You Up or Song that Jane Likes. I'll check my Davetalk- 
he's mentioned both as being the first song he wrote if I'm remembering 
correctly. 

				-Adam

> ____________________________________
> "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
>   to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
>         --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
> __________________________________     \_________________________________
>                                   \             rick thompson
>                                    \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
>                                     \____________________________________
> 


Posted By: Adamski12@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:00 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: unsubscribing people

while you guys have a cool thing going on here, it is definitely not cool to
ignore repeated requests from people to be unsubscribed.

please unsubscribe me. 
---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    unsubscribe me
Date:    94-12-05 11:10:46 EST
From:    Adamski12
To:      minarets@moose.uvm.edu

please unsubscribe me.

thanks in advance.

adamski12.aol


Posted By: shaft <KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 11:04 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: To Sara only

  Sara,
  	What message where you reading? My message was anything but
  antagonistic, I even apologized in the event that I was misunderstanding the
  post in question, I more than anyone realize how prone some of the netters are
  to misinterpreting posts.  I agree that everyone should relax, and that this
  net should stay as far away from the example that phish.net has set, but I also
  think that this net is about providing info, that's all I was doing. I hope you
  read this Sara and thank you if you did.
  							Kev :-Q


Posted By: Michael Formica <MFOR8178@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Time/Date: 11:10 AM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Looking for Ellis of Lemurial

Hey, can anyone out there PLEASE get intouch with Ellis. I sent him some
Phish tapes awhile ago, and he was supposed to send me copies of the
DMB show at the Bayou in the summer of 93 ,the one the tree was done of, the
really HOT one (If you were there you know what I mean)
So, anyway, I have not recieved the tapes, and its been close to a month, if
not longer, and he is not reurning my mail, so if someone out there knows what
is going on, please contact me.
I hate to  do this and waste bandwidth, but Illbe losing my account soon, and
this seems like the only way to possibly reach him
Later
Mike


Posted By: shaft <KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 12:01 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Crack, it's not just for breakfast anymore

Sorry to post this on the net. Jason & Dusty, I got the tapes yesterday,
thanks. I haven't had a chance to listen to them yet (I was busy making you
tapes Dusty) but I'm sure they'll be mighty tasty indeed. Dusty, that setlist
looks great!!  Oh, Rick, I've never been to the Carpenter Center so I don't
know what it's like. When I wrote that post I was going on the Ticketbastard
map of the place.  But from what I've heard about the set up, my seats are
actually REALLY good, like fourth row Loge, so now I'm really excited. I stand
corrected on that issue.  Well, y'all have fun with finals.  Dusty, keep an eye
out for those tapes around the beginning of next week.
    						   A fine wine is never chewy
							Kev :-Q
"For life is short but sweet for certain"
					-DMB

As always, light up, fire up, hit, toke, smoke, and blow.


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 12:32 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: ain't no use in listening for his dying footsteps

shit.
now i forgot what i wanted to say.

WAIT!!! i remember [giggle giggle]
ok.
drive in drive out.
dave soundchecked it at wait chapel (wfu 11/11/94).
(i'm quite familiar with the song, quite, but i wasn't there for the 
soundcheck, so anyone who knows care to make my post more concise if you 
so please) and i talked with our beloved jeff after theshow and he said that
they definitely had been working on maybe re-vamping it again. (brett, 
cathy, want to elaborate here any more?)

hey! i might be going to v-day!!

'somebody leave the light on 
just in case i like the dancing, 
i can remember where i came from'       rock on. feel the beat. other 
                                        silly 80's phrases. parachute 
                                        pants too....
         						clare emily


*******************************************************************************
'march on. do not tarry. to go forward is to move toward perfection. march on,
  and fear not the thorns or the sharp stones on Life's path.' -kahlil gibran

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 1:04 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: 11/8/94 Lisner Auditorium

hey now,
        i am sorry to bother all of you with this, but: at this show, i
gave the only analog taper three blanks to send me a copy of the show
with filler from lexington the next night. he said fine, but i haven't
heard from him. he said that they would be done in a week. i guess not.
does anyone have a copy of this show. it was my first. i would like to
trade any of my quality phish an dead for it and other DMB tapes. thanx.

                                           jonathan


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 2:47 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: V-Day show tapers??????

For all of us out here that are not fortunate to go the v-day/dmb & rich. orch.
show, will anyone out there be taping, and if so, i'm sure someone will tree it
(i think everyone on this net will want a copy of the show!)....Anyway, I'm
just curious to wht will happen.  

alex


Posted By: the magus <car3@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 3:15 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: dave on compilations

just a little bit of further description describing the moniter this 
sampler from the record exchange (the first compilation on which dave 
appears), it contains a live version of warehouse.  it gives no 
specification as to where/when this was recorded and i have no idea 
myself.  it is a pretty good disc, especially for free.  in case dan (or 
whoever has my tapes) is reading this, i still have not received my wait 
chapel tapes.  i would like them.  

				the magus

"things need not have happened to be true.  tales and dreams are the 
shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and 
forgot."                 -neil gaiman-

"...the temple walls are made of flesh..."
			-trent reznor-


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 3:20 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: chords file

could he have been a Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu> says:

>Someone needs to change the transcription of Say Goodbye to include the 
>inter-slide to C...
>
>  A   slide to C, then A to  E     
>e----------------------------------------------------------------
>B----------------------------------------------------------------
>G---6/x-------------6/13----11-----------------------------------
>D---7/10------------7/14----12-----------------------------------
>A---4/7-------------4/11-----9-----------------------------------
>E---5/8-------------5/12----10----------------------------------- 

Er, are you sure that is how you play it?  Because I'm inclined to say that
this is wrong.  Just for common knowledge, this is how i generally play it
while noodling:

         A         E             D               A

e----------------------------------------------------------------|
B----------------------------------------------------------------|
G-----6--6/7--6----13------13----11--11----------6--4--6--4--6---|
D----------------------------------------------------------------|
A-----4--4/5--4----11------11----9---9-----------4--2--4--2--4---|
E-3/5----5-------5/12--12------5/10--10--9--7--3/5---------------|

The basic chord structure in this, I believe, is correct.  The added octaves
(I leave out the octave of the root on the D string, but that's just me) that
I play around with just mimic some of Dave's Guiar Stylings (tm).

>also the funky ants intro is:
>
>p=pull off
>e----------------------------------------
>B----------------------------------------
>G----------------------------------------
>D----12----10---9---7---5---3---3p0------
>A----------------------------------------
>E----------------------------------------

i'm just wondering if i should put this in the file since it will probably
disappear soon...

>ps - thanks for correcting the "Typical" file, it was annoying me.

uh thanks.

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 3:33 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: 3 more things

Honey Sugar (clare, okay??) says:

>vasquez you silly poop! (it's ok.. iknow ben i'm teasin him...) and i'm 
>happy to hear you've warmed up to the idea of ice skating in richmond 
>with me.. YIPPEE!! fun fun fun

no no no it's not okay! how dare you flame me!  the queen of happiness has
sunken to our level.

and...

what is up with 'dave.base'? did i miss something??? what happened to
warehouse?  i'm guessing blake dropped out of it with his mysterious
departure (at least for now?) from the net, but why has the name changed if
it's still the same kind of idea?  Don't the dead have somethign called
Deadbase or something?  I know me & rick don't wanna have dave be compared to
the dead (hee hee).  gosh.

and back to clare...

ha ha ha err until a few days ago i still thought that part of satellite was

winter's cold, spring races
and the cobwebs bla bla bla bla bla (the part is too high to sing,
                                     so i just hummed)
everything good needs love, face it
look up... etc

eek

stupidBen

(scott frazier, get in touch. i get yr tapes, but i have to tellyou sumthin)

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: Kyle Kristopher Langschwager <allgood@umich.edu>
Time/Date: 4:07 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: Here's some news...

y
Just to update everyone that the compilation that the person wrote about 
being the first one DMB is on is incorrect.  I have a HORDE compilation 
that was a promotional gig that RECENTLY is on.  Jack On'neill gave it to 
me in Jones BEach.  It has alot of other small bands(at least at the 
time) on it.  Problem is that there were only a couple thousand(?) made.
	Saying Goodbye,
	Kyle


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us (Daniel Blanchat)
Time/Date: 5:28 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 tree folks

The tapes should be going out to the top level branches friday.

Sorry it's taken me so long, but life has been a bit weird lately.

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me

<A HREF="http://mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us/~djb/dmb">Dave Matthews Band FAQ</A>


Posted By: DREHER MARK WESTON <dreher@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU>
Time/Date: 5:52 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject:

Take Me Off!!! I do not want to be getting 100 messages a day

I would greatly appreciate being taken off the minarets subscrpition

Mark Dreher 
Dreher@ucsuc.colorado.edu


Posted By: Victor Wandres <wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Time/Date: 6:24 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: chords file

Attention whoever maintains the chord file (Ben?)
Please include BOTH styles of playing Say goodbye in the next chords file!
When I play, I prefer to learn as many ways possible to make 
improvisation easier....

> >  A   slide to C, then A to  E     
> >e----------------------------------------------------------------
> >B----------------------------------------------------------------
> >G---6/x-------------6/13----11-----------------------------------
> >D---7/10------------7/14----12-----------------------------------
> >A---4/7-------------4/11-----9-----------------------------------
> >E---5/8-------------5/12----10----------------------------------- 
> 
         ---OR---   

>          A         E             D               A
> 
> e----------------------------------------------------------------|
> B----------------------------------------------------------------|
> G-----6--6/7--6----13------13----11--11----------6--4--6--4--6---|
> D----------------------------------------------------------------|
> A-----4--4/5--4----11------11----9---9-----------4--2--4--2--4---|
> E-3/5----5-------5/12--12------5/10--10--9--7--3/5---------------|
> 
> The basic chord structure in this, I believe, is correct.  The added octaves
> (I leave out the octave of the root on the D string, but that's just me) that
> I play around with just mimic some of Dave's Guiar Stylings (tm).

It's gracious of you....

Victor
wandres@tulane.edu


Posted By: Ben Tanen <btanen@netspace.org>
Time/Date: 8:51 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: danger: computer information enclosed!

Hey guys.  I just wanted to keep you all up on how the archive is coming.

Here are the files we've got, and then a brief news type of thing.

graphics/art:
nothing yet! come on folks, DRAW STUFF.
graphics/in-line:
r2t.gif
graphics/live-photos:
no change from last post
graphics/official:
band.gif      r2t.gif       recently.gif  uttad.gif
---------- 
old-stuff:
941011-faq.txt
---------- 
sounds:
921117-youre-a-nunu.au           931026-he-smells.au
931026-remember.au               931026-thank-you.au
931026-wild-guy.au               931120-this-song-has-no-name.au
941005-tell-friends.au           941005-you-rang.au
941008-nobodys-heard-it.au
---------- 
text-files:
chords.txt         faq.txt            lyrics.txt         minarets-history/
tourdates.txt
text-files/minarets-history:
minarets-history-1  minarets-history-2  minarets-history-3
------------------------------------------------------------------------

News from Ben:

Next month, I'll be setting up an automated mail thing where you can send 
a message constructed in a certain way and in response you can receive the 
faq, lyrics file, chords, or whatever.  all without using ftp; just 
regular old e-mail.

For now, I'm focusing on collecting instances of dave talk.  Scott 
jump-started the archive last week (it's the sounds folder!) and today I 
added two more (from 11/20/93 and 10/8/94).  I have a BUNCH from 10/30/93 
to do tomorrow.  Basically, i'll just keep doing this, until we run out 
of disk space (well, Netspace guru Lee Silverman will probably stop me 
before we ACTUALLY run out of disk space, but . . . ).

If you would like to contribute something to the archive, you must do two 
things (in this order please!):
1. Write to me telling me this, and wait 'til you hear back from me.
2. Either e-mail whatever it is to me, or ftp it to 
ftp://ftp.netspace.org/incoming

Let's see, what else?
Oh, yeah, if you are interested contributing sounds to the dave talk 
archive (and please DO!-- I have a bunch of tapes but not enough!), there 
are a few things you've got to keep in mind:
1. You need to know the date of the show, and venue and stuff like that.
2. You need to know how to record your sounds onto your computer.
3. You need to follow the contribution guidelines above.


That's all, really.  

And again, I strongly advocate learning enough about computers to get 
your hands on this stuff.  But not learning it from ME!  Ask around at 
your school or internet provider.

-Ben

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
      "We needed a vacation, but the concept was unthinkable.... 
       How could you take a vacation from life?"   -- Vin Scelsa
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: pcharrig@students.wisc.edu (Patrick Harrigan)
Time/Date: 8:53 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Madison fans?

This is my first post to minarets, so let me start out by asking if there
are any Madison DMB fans out there?  I only have three shows, and would
love to trade locally if possible.  I hate to grovel, but if anyone has
some of the recent DMB opening up for Phish, I would love to get my paws on
it! Well, if grovelling is uncool, what is the right way to get tapes?  I
need my Boyd!!


Posted By: "SHUT UP! i'm thinking..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:02 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: V-Day show tapers??????

>For all of us out here that are not fortunate to go the v-day/dmb & rich. orch.
>show, will anyone out there be taping, and if so, i'm sure someone will tree it
>(i think everyone on this net will want a copy of the show!)....Anyway, I'm
>just curious to wht will happen.  
>
>alex
>
well, the question is not "is anybody going to (try to) tape?"
that question is EXTREMELY moot.  perhaps dumber than asking
the difference b/w #34 and #36 after yesterday.  :):P:^)

the question is "are we allowed to tape the richmond symphony."

i think it's very, very, very early to start worrying about who
is taping that show.  we need to worry if we _can_ tape that show.

i'm thinking that this may be one show where we aren't going to
get, or for that matter want, a soundboard patch.  

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 9:11 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Davmaltation Subscribers.

*********************************************
hey to all who sent tapes for Davetalk so far.
*********************************************
well....i've gotten lazy and don't feel like taping anymore so thanks
for all the free tapes....just a little joke....now for the scoop.

o.k. tapes have started arriving by the band full and...i still
haven't finished the master tape!!! whoops...don't worry..seeing that
pile is starting to REALLY motivate moi.

i am busy with school at the moment...way,way over my head in college
shit...so look for the tapes to START going out around the 22nd of
December...maybe in time for the holidays!!! i hope i can get this
finished in time to do that...sorry to make ya' wait but i do beleive
you understand....sooo.....in the meantime...don't watch your mail...a
watched mailbox never boils (unless you put a cherry bomb in it like
i used ta'......bad kid,bad) 
anyway, take it easy and when the Davmaltations arrives....while
listening to the tape,if you SMILE (even only once),then it has succeeded...
PEACE to you and the rest of this Planet.

     signing off with the inevitable pre-winter Actifed space-head blues,

                               CHA * *
                                   \_/







**has anyone ever tried smoking Actifed ?...don't, it tastes awful and
could probably kill you...eat it...mmmm..mmmm that good old
empty-headed feeling of floating around with no snot to bother....
and i can pet my kitty with no regrets.....comprendo?

 
PEACETOALLYE'WHOLOVEALLCREATURESEQUALLY!!!!!


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 9:25 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: more digests and then some

Alright, sorry for the incovienence, but I would like to request someone 
send me digests 150-158 - I know the stuff I'm looking for is in there 
somewhere.

Also - I was asking that someone post the TRANSCRIPTION for recently, I 
can read the cover leaf...I just don't want to have to type in the 
transcription if I don't have to.

sean

ps - a few words about life...

I may have gotten a 61 on my engineering exam, but at least I can play 
tripping billies.


                -----------------------------------------
            "Chris Vrenna is probably the last person you'd want
		to meet in a dark ally with bad Salami breath"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: William Griffith Lakenan <wl1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Time/Date: 9:46 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: V-Day Planning...

Hey all,
    I started taping shows a few months ago and have definitely cought
the DMB and live tape virus.  I'm anxious help spread Dave's music far
and wide.  There have been a few posts here over the past week by people
anxiously asking about a potential V-Day tree.  I know this is really
early to be talking about this, but I have a feeling that everyone (and
I mean everyone) will want a copy so we can't be too organized about
this.  I will be attending and taping (on DAT) the V-Day show and would
love to organize a tree.  If anyone has organized a tree before and has
some advice, please get in touch with me.  Please don't send any
requests yet, I will make many announcements when the time gets nearer. 
Take it easy, y'all.


*************************************************************************
            Bill Lakenan             * "C'mon this is Ohio if you don't
     Carnegie Mellon University      *  have a brewsky in your hand, you
          lakenan@CMU.EDU            *  might as well be wearing a dress"   
*************************************************************************


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 9:57 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Atlanta Gathering

        I'm trying to finalize details for the net gathering in Atlanta
before the show on Dec. 27, so peruse these ideas at your leisure, but
PLEASE get back to me with SUGGESTIONS!!

        This is the last message about this that I plan on posting, so send
me a message with ATLANTA GATHERING in the subject to get final details if
you're not on this list:
AMZENDEL@unca.edu
DLALLISON@unca.edu
gt0407c@prism.gatech
Hatton.Haralson@Rollins.Edu
John Byron Goins <jbgoins@eos.ncsu.edu>
Jonatha687@aol.com
keith oliver <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Thomas W Junker <junketw@mail.auburn.edu>
WALTON, GEOFFREY REE <SATELITE@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU>

1) Everyone seemed to like the idea of meeting at a park pretty early (the
show                starts at 8:00, and I'll bet that everyone wants to be
on time).  Piedmont Park is a pretty cool place (the Grapes played there at
Potfest '94 or '93, I can't remember which (hee hee)), and it's pretty
close to the Fox and the rest of downtown, but parking can be a problem.
Anyway, it's a big place, so we'd probably meet at the stage and trade,
listen to music, and get psyched about the show.  It would be a good place
for everyone to get to know each other a little bit, IMHO.  I would suggest
meeting at maybe 2 or 3 in the afternoon.

2) It would be cool to eat dinner at a semi-nice restaurant, perhaps
something like what has been suggested for the V-Day show gathering.
Underground Atlanta would be a great place for this, but I don't know where
it is exactly in Atlanta.  If it's close to the Fox, it's perfect.
Otherwise, I'm open to suggestions for other places.

3) Several people have mentioned trying to find a hotel near MARTA.  This
would be nice for the out-of-towners as well as for partying after the
show.  Once we find a suitable hotel (fairly inexpensive), we'll worry
about reservations.

4) Lastly, I plan on going to the B'ham show on the 28th, and I'm sure
others might want to also, so we could definitely road trip there, and if
enough netters will be there, we could hang out some more.

BTW, the quicker we finalize the details, the better the chance that the
band will join us, so please HELP, even if it's just an approval or
disapproval!

                                Thanks,

                                M A L A C H I
                        /===========================\
                       / Malachi@Leland.Stanford.edu \
                      /              ***              \
                      \           Jeff Heys           /
                       \         PO Box 4867         /
                        \     Stanford, CA 94309    /
                         \=========================/


Posted By: Seth Alexander Unger <sau3@columbia.edu>
Time/Date: 10:14 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: so you say...

hey carly
you're cute and all but,
there are a whole bunch of dave's songs that have #'s 
as titles
simply because they're not named yet.
one song is (as of now) #36
#34 has remianed #34 for the album.

and what's your problem with "lover?"

-Seth


Posted By: "D. Gray Proulx" <grayp@pinn.net>
Time/Date: 11:33 PM Tuesday, December 6, 1994
Subject: Re: V-Day show tapers??????

> 
> the question is "are we allowed to tape the richmond symphony."
> 
excellent question rick

> 
> i'm thinking that this may be one show where we aren't going to
> get, or for that matter want, a soundboard patch.  
> 
i for one think a well made audience tape would capture the symphony show 
much better than a board could hope to.  chances are, if a board patch is 
available (which, my guess is it will not be), it will be a highly 
irregular mix.  the venue has great acoustics which could be very nicely 
duplicated with a nice set of mics.

So who's sportin' the Neumans?


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 12:20 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: atlanta gathering

Hi All,

I just wanted to include my two cents worth about the Atlanta gathering.
While underground is cool and all (actually, I'm not that fond of it) it's
not that close to the Fox.  I think Malachi's idea about piedmont park is
a good one though, provided everyone can find it, and then find the group
in the park.  

For dinner, though...there are several very cool restaraunts near the 
Fox that would be a cool setting in which to gather.  The Vortex is one 
block west and about six or seven blocks north of the Fox and is one of 
my favorites in Atlanta (for atmosphere and food)...also they serve almost
every domestic and foreign beer you can imagine.  The crowd there is also
pretty cool...really laid back.  If you like kinda dark bars/restaurants
with semi-loud music and very cool atmosphere and the added bonus of great
eats, this would be a good place.  Also there is the BridgeTowne Grill, which
is even closer to the Fox (about five blocks north).  Although I haven't 
been to this one (there are a few in Atlanta) the others have excellent
food and cool atmosphere, so I trust it will be just as good.  There are 
also the standards like Houlihans, which is practically across the street
from the Fox.  If anybody else out there is from Atlanta, give me (actually,
give Malachi, his address is malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU) more suggestions
on good eating establishments.  Twenty days till atlanta.  Later.

Much Grass,
Shug
gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu


Posted By: CHE <ROOPC@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 2:07 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Many Random Questions

	Hello I've been on the net for a while but never really had much to
say.  But after a while I have decided to come out and ask a couple of
Questions about the DMB.
1.)  How does the DMB go about putting a song together.  Do they just sit
around and jam or does one of the members come up with something and bring it
tothe rest of the band.
2.) When someone was talking about the video of WWYS, is the John Popper's
Harmonica also in the video verson.
3.) To whoever is doing the rarities tape, I was wondering if the songs from
the post HORDE jam with the Samples and the Jam at lexington with Phish were
going to be on there.  The se are two great rarities and it would be great
additions to this tape.  I may be late but anyway.
4.) this concerns Tape trades.  I have about 12hrs. of Dmb, pearl jam, Phish
show with dave in lex. and janes addiction and I was wondering
if anyone might want to trade.  I am looking for some specific shows.  
*Brown's Island  4/3/94
*Summer jam In Charlotte NC Sometime in July or AUG. with Hootie and the
	Blowfish.
*In the summer of 1993 I remember DMB playing the HORDE Show  in Charlotte NC
this was my first show and I would really like this.
*Last of all I saw that someone had some Woodstock tapes; I would like to get
the tape of Cypress Hill.(sorry about nonDMB request)

      	Any replys to my questions would be a great help. 

"Open your eyes and look with in, are you satisfied with the life your living."
		The Great Bob Marley
                              		Peace Love
					Che Findlay Roop
					Roopc@tiger.hsc.edu 


Posted By: scooter@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 3:04 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: roadtrip anyone?

hey y'all,

i am interested in going from dallas to houston, maybe austin, for the texas
shows, houston might be a little far, but worth it.  let me know asap even if you
are remotely interested, i'm leaving my e-mail on friday, early sat.

also:

1.  will my parent DMCKECHI@SWARTHMORE please get in touch?  I am leaving
soon, and would like to arrange for those tapes.

2.  does anyone know how to subscribe to jackopierce?  i've tried to no avial.

thanks!

sampson 


Posted By: William Lippe <lippe@u.washington.edu>
Time/Date: 3:07 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Answers to question, query on ftp sounds.

2.) When someone was talking about the video of WWYS, is the John Popper's
Harmonica also in the video verson.
--------------->
John Popper doesn't appear in the video, but the album track is used.  At 
least that's what the rough edit was, it could change, but I doubt it.

sounds:
921117-youre-a-nunu.au           931026-he-smells.au
931026-remember.au               931026-thank-you.au
931026-wild-guy.au               931120-this-song-has-no-name.au
941005-tell-friends.au           941005-you-rang.au
941008-nobodys-heard-it.au
---------------->
Now I'm not trying to be Mac-centered... but some of us can't run .au 
files.. Is there a format (I should research this myself and not ask, but 
hey) that IBMs can use, that is easily translatable?  I know MPEG does 
the job...  if a shareware converter for the mac, which would take a 
_minimum_ of space, was put up on the site, much anguish would be saved 
for Mac users.  Enough, commas, for, you?  I'd be willing to go and test 
all the various sound converters to decide which one to put up if it's 
decided that's an ok idea..

Random question... about how long does it take to drive from Memphis to 
C-Ville? 13 hours?  Is the train pretty inexpensive?  Thanks advancola..


Posted By: JOSANDS@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 5:57 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 383

I am looking for shows with Dave and Tim Reynolds.  I have money and tapes, that I would give for these items!!  please write me back and we will internet talk.
I hope that someone will tape the valentines show!!!

I am going to be at Oxford next semeter, does anybody know if Dave is going to be in England 
next semester?


Posted By: James DiNatale <jdinatal@capcon.net>
Time/Date: 9:19 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 tree

Regarding the 11/11/94 DMB tree  --  I am a branch on this tree and have 
been trying to reach my parent < ALLGOOD@UMICH.EDU > for a couple of 
weeks now.  If this is you or anyone has had any contact with this person 
please let me know.  If I don't here anything arrangements will have to 
be made to find someone to fill this spot on the tree.

  
 _____________________________________________
|                                             | 
|Jim DiNatale <jdinatal@capcon.net>           | 
|Washington D.C.                              | 
|_____________________________________________|


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:42 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: macintosh sucks. ibm all the g*dd**n way...

>2.) When someone was talking about the video of WWYS, is the John Popper's
>Harmonica also in the video verson.

yep.  john popper won't be there, but his harmonica will be just floatin'
around on stage.  :)

>Now I'm not trying to be Mac-centered... but some of us can't run .au 
>files.. Is there a format (I should research this myself and not ask, but 
>hey) that IBMs can use, that is easily translatable?  I know MPEG does 
>the job...  if a shareware converter for the mac, which would take a 
>_minimum_ of space, was put up on the site, much anguish would be saved 
>for Mac users.  Enough, commas, for, you?  I'd be willing to go and test 
>all the various sound converters to decide which one to put up if it's 
>decided that's an ok idea..
>
i may have access to a mac scanner here at jmu (but don't hold me to that.)
if i can get a few pic's scanned, could they go in the archive for veiwing
with people who have discovered the wonders and simplicity of a machine
designed around its keyboard and its user instead of its motherboard.  

i know not what i'm doing.  so if someone says 'yes' i'll need a fair amount
of instructions on how to get them off of an apple disc, onto a vms mainframe,
and then across the internet to you.  i may just want to send a disc, actually.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
NO...NO...I WON'T GIVE UP ON IBM! \             rick thompson
      I WON'T......!!!!!!          \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Adam P Henne <AHENNE@drew.edu>
Time/Date: 10:19 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: V-day tickets?

here's a silly question: are tickets to this show still available?  
because when it first began to be discussed, i ignored it all.  after all, 
i'm in new jersey, what are the odds of getting down to richmond?  but now 
it seems i'll have a car by then, and hey, maybe a road trip would be in 
order...so, could someone please tell me how i can get tickets?  this 
could be the concert event of the year, and i'd hate to miss it.
	adam


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 10:49 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: The Atlanta Gathering and a Hotel!

Everyone who wants to get a hotel for before and/or after the Dec 27 show,
please send me a message, so we can know how many people want to party.  Also, 
is there anyone out there who wants do this and is currently in Atl. (like at 
Ga. tech or Emory or
something) that can call around to hotels and find one after we find out who
all wants to go in on this hotel thingy (if anyone wants too).  Please let me
know because we need to get this going.   Only 20 days left until the show!!!!!

Alex
amzendel@unca.edu


Posted By: "Stephen J. Seremeth" <sseremet@emba.uvm.edu>
Time/Date: 10:55 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: "Jason & Alison" - a band!

Hey everybody-
	This is not about Dave and the boys, but I thought you all might
be interested.  Last night I went to see "Live" in Plattsburg, NY and a
band called Jason & Alison opened.  I think it's fairly obvious how many
band members there are, but the two of them were really great.  Jason
plays acoustic guitar and sings (has a cool, but NOT terribly different
sounding voice), and Alison plays a CELLO - yes, a CELLO.  Their tunes
remind me of Smashing Pumpkins "Disarm" but they're much more mellow and
his voice is not so "alternative."  
	They're from Chicago and are touring with "Live."  I bought their
CD at the show - so I don't know if you'll be able to find it in
stores(They're on some small indie label) - but do yourselves a favor and
check them out. They Jam! 

			Steve

P.S.  Someone write me back if they know anything more!


Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:GSAAS41@MAINE.bitnet (Gerhard Saas)
Time/Date: 11:02 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Cjacobs post

  In a blatant attempt at beating a dead horse, (this may be a little dated), h
owever in the spirt of Ms. Jacobs post i submit to you all

    Y'all it's eggplants marching, not ants marching

           Just a little joke, I hope that Ms. Jacobs isn't scared after her li
ttle boo boo, I think      she might find that most people on this net don't ho
ld grudges....she may even be able to post again!!!

                             Just waiting for summer
                                                    Gerhard


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 11:28 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: V-day tapeage

hey all.

 i really don't want to beleive what i'm going to say....but the
Richmond Symphony ethics say " no cameras or recording devices of any
kind allowed...." uh-oh..i'm sure Bagby will record it and will do
all in his power to give us the priveledge also...however, i am music
student in Richmond and frequent the halls of the symphon...sooo.. DMB
playing with them has been in the works for about TWO years now..thats two
years of organizing,writing out the music,practice....

so what i'm thinking is this is a big deal...or maybe they just plan 
WAY ahead for any concert...anyway i just have a sneaking suspicion 
that there may be a Compact Disc in the making here....who knows...if
there is no CD coming out and they also say no recording...there is 
always a way to beat the system...we all have our separate connections...
branch out and we'll definately have a killer Bagby to pass around...
...i'm talking Revolution......you make the bread,i got the A.K.47....
no, i'm not into violence...i just know this historic concert will not
slip thru THESE fingers...and info i get from snooping around in the
musical domain of my school...will be passed to the Minaretters for
further discussion...yes, i know this is early to contemplate..but
we might as well prepare ourselves to be ready....

 ***we need to sew BIG pockets in our jackets,big enuff for a TAPE DECK,
   and we need to make some funky,but not too suspicious,HATS that can 
   hold mobile microphones!!!!  alright..lets GOOOOO!!!

o.k. enuff freakin' out for this cat. PEACE.

                     
                     still climbing tree's after all these years,

                                      CHA * *
                                         \___/


Posted By: "J. A. Crothers" <jcrother@moose.uvm.edu>
Time/Date: 11:35 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Unsubscribing from Minarets

Greetings.

Just a reminder......

	There have been quite a few "unsubscribe" requests lately and 
                most have been wrong.
	If you want to unsubscribe from Minarets, send ONLY and EXACTLY  
		this message:  UNSUB MINARETS

        Include NO Subject heading and send it to LISTPROC@MOOSE.UVM.EDU

	----------------------------------------------------------------
	If you are overwhelmed with the amount of mail Minarets 
		is generating, I'd suggest Digestifying.
	To digestify, send EXACTLY and ONLY this message:
		SET MINARETS MAIL DIGEST
	Include NO subject heading and send it to LISTPROC@MOOSE.UVM.EDU


alex crothers		


Posted By: i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 11:46 AM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: one line.

just so would be road trippers know, v-day is on a tuesday this year.
might make for a rough road trip, so plan early.


(ok, so i lied.  2-3 lines....sorry....)


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us (Daniel Blanchat)
Time/Date: 12:25 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Bone Pony

w
I know I know, yet another NON-dmb post.

Bone Pony is an accoustic band (mandolin, guitar, elec. bass, drummer with
vintage drums).  They played last night at Ziggy's (free show).  They are
the most impressive band I've seen since Dave Matthews.  They're from
Nashville, and if you get a chance, go see em.

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me

<A HREF="http://mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us/~djb/dmb">Dave Matthews Band FAQ</A>


Posted By: "Clifton Eugene Moore" <MOOREC@engr.engr.scarolina.edu>
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Recently

If anyone has got the transcription for Recently would you please
send it I've got most of it but there are some parts I can't get.

                                                    thanks,
                                                    Cliff


Posted By: "Adam Vann (BK 1995)" <axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Time/Date: 1:18 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Vday road trip-

So there I was, listening to the Yale Symphony orchestra playing a little 
Mendelssohn, when I realize, DMB with the symphony is not something I 
want to miss. So I'm thinking of a crazy road trip. Leave tues morning 
after swim practice around 9, stop at my home in Maryland around 2:30 for 
some quick lunch, and get down to Richmond around 5:30. Then turn around 
and come back after the show- or at least pretty soon afterwords. Clearly, 
I'd need a driving 
partner here, so's I can sleep, read, eat while rotating driving duties. 
Now I'm the kind of guy who's more fascinated with the journey aspect 
than the destination, even though this particular destination would be 
outstanding. It's the challenge of it all that gets me. If you are a 
like- minded soul who resides somewhere along the upper part of the 
northeast corridor, has a significant other as understanding as mine, and 
would actually go 
for something as crazy as this, let me know and we'll see what we can do.
And if you are someone with access to Jeff, or Dave, or any other band 
members, suggest that they do a MInarets->Bluewater at this show. Just 
imagine it.

	Probably taking back this decision after I get some sleep,
	Adam


Posted By: Sarah Hall <halls@alleg.EDU>
Time/Date: 1:30 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: And another one...

Begin forwarded message:

From: Michiel Visser <visserm>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 94 01:28:29 -0500
To: People, Dudes, InnerCircle, Murmellius, NorthMain aliensnow,
        admiraaa%esuvm.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu, jsc1@acpub.duke.edu,
        F268@MUSIC.FERRIS.EDU
Subject: And another one...
Reply-To: Michiel Visser <visserm@alleg.EDU>

Just to keep you informed..... (just let me know in case you don't  
want to be informed anymore ;-)

Yours,

Michiel

Begin forwarded message:

From: Allyson Tinney <tinneya>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 23:46:49 -0500
To: stetler, clarks, spana, prushab, poutiev, guptaa, yoderd, parisc,  
visserm
Subject: And another one...



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 06 Dec 1994 23:39:24 -0500 (EST)
From: HERBERT W TINNEY <TINNEYHW@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
Subject: And another one...
Cc: tinneya@alleg.EDU
Organization: from SUNY College at Buffalo, NY 14222
X-Vms-To: PIATKONM
X-Vms-Cc: FISHLM,IN%"tinneya@alleg.edu",TINNEYHW
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

Is this going to turn into an epidemic?

-----------------forwarded message------------------

Date: Sun, 04 Dec 1994 22:49:41 -0500
From: "Gail R. Harris" <cpsgrhx@GSUSGI2.GSU.EDU>
Subject: (another) VIRUS ALERT (fwd)
Sender: Early Music List <EARLYM-L@AEARN.BITNET>
To: Multiple recipients of list EARLYM-L <EARLYM-L@AEARN.BITNET>

Here is another alert I received this morning.  I was also notified  
of
the "good times" virus.  --  Gail

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 13:13:55 -0500
From: Todd (rest deleted)
Subject: VIRUS ALERT (fwd)

Laura's virus message came in this morning.  I received this message  
from
an 18th C. lit mailing list.  Different subject heading, so I thought  
I
should inform those interested/concerned.  I've deleted the name of  
the
original poster.  I don't have any information on the virus other  
than
what is listed below.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 10:12:55 -0500
From: <NAME>
To: Multiple recipients of list C18-L <C18-L@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: VIRUS ALERT

 A virus is circulating on the Internet.  If you receive a message  
with
 the header "xxx-1" DO NOT READ IT.  Delete immediately or your disk  
will
 require treatment by a virus-scanner.  I have had two copies of this
 message this morning (Sunday) already, but was warned by an early
 morning phone call from a friend who got hit.

********************************************************************** 
*********
<NAME>
English, Victoria College, University of Toronto
********************************************************************** 
*********


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu (Brett)
Time/Date: 2:59 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: Answers to question, query on ftp sounds.

>sounds:
>921117-youre-a-nunu.au           931026-he-smells.au
>931026-remember.au               931026-thank-you.au
>931026-wild-guy.au               931120-this-song-has-no-name.au
>941005-tell-friends.au           941005-you-rang.au
>941008-nobodys-heard-it.au
>---------------->
>Now I'm not trying to be Mac-centered... but some of us can't run .au
>files.. Is there a format (I should research this myself and not ask, but
>hey) that IBMs can use, that is easily translatable?  I know MPEG does
>the job...

thought I'd answer this to the net since it might be of use to a lot of
people.

1 - MPG is a video format..  MPEG2 is a video/audio combination that uses .AU
files for the audio.  (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.. this is my
basic understanding of MPG files, though)

2 - .AU files can be played on IBM, and very easily.  There are several
players around, the most versatile probably is something called PLANY,
which, believe it or not, plays almost any sound format.  I don't know where
you can find it, but if you're unable to find it, email ME (not the net), and
I'll look it up for you..

I'm sure there are also many .au -> .wav or .au -> .voc converters around.


anyone know why dave doesn't do acoustic openers any more?

brett

--
you don't have to worry about me
i might have been born yesterday
but i stayed up all night


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu (Bruce Ricker 887-6646)
Time/Date: 3:38 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: C A R O L I N A

 hi
don't mean to waste space, but i am looking for high quality tapes and am
in north carolina.  any locals please respond, except Dan (i will be in
touch after x-mas break)
      - thank you    - bruce


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 3:37 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Say....

For all those who care...

I guess if no one has recently I'll go ahead and transcribe it after 
finals.

ps - Ben - what we are playing is the same thing - I merely transcribed 
the pure triads.  As always a little self inturpretation is necessary...

sean
 

                -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu (Bruce Ricker 887-6646)
Time/Date: 3:46 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: T O U R !

 hi all
i was wondering if anyone could give me a list of the dmb tour, because i
am going home (nj) for chistmas and i was hoping to see them up north if
they would be there i would like to be prepared! i will be leaving on the
16th of dec. and will be here in nc until then, please inform me!
                 - thanks   - bruce


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Jason Thompson )
Time/Date: 5:37 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: macintosh sucks popper's harp

> 
> >2.) When someone was talking about the video of WWYS, is the John Popper's
> >Harmonica also in the video verson.
> 
> yep.  john popper won't be there, but his harmonica will be just floatin'
> around on stage.  :)
> 
Yeah, during the filming of the live footage, they seemed to concentrate on
Boyd during the harp solo.  During one break, someone yelled, "Where's
Popper?"  Dave answered, "In Jersey."   Whoe knows what they will do with
the final edit of the video - maybe they took some footage of the band in
the studio last Summer with Popper and they will throw that in.  

Jason

.sig file available on request.  (so is my resume if ya wanna give me a
job...)


Posted By: remember to breathe <BLBLALOC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 5:53 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: oops.

i have a little problem.  i keep getting tapes in the mail (a veritable
shitload i insist) and i have no idea who these people are...so:

1) if you have sent me tapes, e-mail me what you sent, what i'm supposed to
send back, and your snail just in case.

2) if you haven't sent me tapes but plan to, see #1.

i'll get them out by this week-end.
if you ever get that urge to DELETE DELETE DELETE, stop before you penetrate
the conscious veil of memory.

a man does exist even if he does not have memory.
a dog is capable of religious experience.
every time i hear get in line, i like it more.
to where do gay bees fly this year?

or something.

to hear the voice of gods.

brian.
   --------
"Hands off!  I feel the rage of simile upon me; I can't talk to you in any
  other way."


Posted By: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 5:56 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: Unsubscribing from Minarets

>	----------------------------------------------------------------
>	If you are overwhelmed with the amount of mail Minarets 
>		is generating, I'd suggest Digestifying.
>	To digestify, send EXACTLY and ONLY this message:
>		SET MINARETS MAIL DIGEST
>	Include NO subject heading and send it to LISTPROC@MOOSE.UVM.EDU
>
>
>alex crothers		
>
i recommend digestifying as well.  digestifying makes things so much simpler
because
1)you get to see a summary of the subject lines at the beginning of each
digest.
2)it collects all the posts together so that they take up less room, as
well as making it possible to delete 30 posts in a single keystroke.
and it's hard for me to explain why, but it really makes things more
manageable.

i undigestified because i take such an overwhelming part in most of the
conversations, but if you just lurk, digestifying makes alot of sense.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: SDOTY@midd.cc.middlebury.edu
Time/Date: 6:06 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Say Goodbye

Hi. I was wondering if any of you had a good recording of "Say Goodbye" from
1993. I have one recording of it (12/8/93-- Floodzone), put it's poor quality
and I just got a bunch of tapes from shows this year, but somehow I like the
earlier versions of the song better.
I don't really have any tapes to trade-- but I'll bake you cookies! (???)
Thanks,
Sarah


Posted By: aiko@SIRIUS.COM (David J. Barsotti)
Time/Date: 6:22 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Keeping informed

Please send any mailing list stuff on the DMB to David Barsotti- aiko@sirius.com
The band put on some great shows in San Francisco.Tell them thanks!!!!!
DB

David J. Barsotti


Posted By: Victor Wandres <wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Time/Date: 6:30 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: Recently

> 
> If anyone has got the transcription for Recently would you please
> send it I've got most of it but there are some parts I can't get.
> 
>                                                     thanks,
>                                                     Cliff
> 

I am also dying to learn how to play this song.  Especially the opening 
part/chords found on R2T.  Please Post if as soon as possible!!

Thanks,
Victor
-------------------------------
wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
-------------------------------


Posted By: uvmvm.uvm.edu:SREILI31@MAINE.bitnet (Steve Reiling)
Time/Date: 6:35 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: Vday road trip-

I may be just as crazy as you. I'm up at the University of Maine at
Orono, and if I could catch a bus or something to Conn. (unless my
car is feeling healthy), you may have yourself a driving partner.
Do you think tickets need to be bought far in advance, because this
is pending on next semester's test/work schedule. Keep in touch...

Steve
sreili31@maine.maine.edu


Posted By: THE CANDLE'S FLAME <wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 6:55 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: Answers to question, query on ftp sounds.

dave doesnt do acoustic openers anymore for several reasons:

1) He doesnt have to kill the time (until all the band gets to
trax or the floodzone) anymore, since theyre all there.

2)He gets *almost* all of his acoustic cravings out in the
monster shows with Tim.

3)Acoustic things used to be the sounding stage for new songs
written, before the band had learned them...almost ALL of his
stuff started out this way.  Get in Line is an exception, since
it was spawned from a soundcheck jam...

4) The crowd (for the most part) doesnt want to see just
Dave...they want to see Boyd and the rest of the band playing
things like ants marching.

5) He still does a FEW acoustic tunes in just about every show,
but since almost all of what they do is full band, and theyve got
such little time on stage in each place, they want to get as much
in as possible for the crowd.  It's not like theyre back in
colorado every tuesday, and if they dont play ants one night,
they will the next, like it was in richmond or Cville.


Oh well, you asked...:)

Hope this helps.

Wade


Posted By: M * C * L <lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:36 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: DMB......

	I was wondering if there were any DMB fans out there that like 
the Samples as well, or Samples fans who like DMB as well?  If so, then i 
was also wondering if you have any tapes of the two playing together, or 
backing up each other at a concert, or even a show where one band opened 
up for the other?  Just wondering.....the snow is falling down here in 
Colorado!  
			Equal Samples and DMB fan,
						Mike L.
	
Respondance:	lund4649@blue.univnorthco.edu


Posted By: 73KIMBERLING@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 9:10 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: 12/30 show

Has anyone planned any type of gathering for the December 30th show at American
University in DC?
- Mike


Posted By: Its not what but who you're with..." <RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:20 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: just thought i would addd......

> I know I know, yet another NON-dmb post.
> 
> Bone Pony is an accoustic band (mandolin, guitar, elec. bass, drummer with
> vintage drums).  They played last night at Ziggy's (free show).  They are
> the most impressive band I've seen since Dave Matthews.  They're from
> Nashville, and if you get a chance, go see em.
> 
i saw them this year at wolftrap (where i work) with csn  and they rocked....
they are defintely a feeling bad.... they gave a good strong music feeling i
think you know what i mean i recommend them to anyone who likes people who have
lots of fun just playing...

rich


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 9:44 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Recently tab

Okay so I just aced physics so I decided to share the wealth and post the 
outline to recently...

Intro (very tripping billies esque)

/=slide
e---------------------------------------------------->
b---------------------------------------------------->
g---9-9---7-6---5-3---------------------------------->
d-------------------------8---10---8-----8---10---8-->
a--------------------------6/8---/6-------6/8---/6--->
E---9-8---7-5---5-4-----3/--------------3/----------->


e----------------------------|
b----------------------------|
g----------------------------|
d-10--8--7--5----------------|
a---------------3/7--3--5----|
E------------------------3---|

Recently I've been...

(speed up tempo)
e---------------------------------------------------->
b---------------------------------------------------->
g---------------------------------------------------->
d-------8---10---8--------8---10---8----------------->
a--------6/8---/6--5--------6/8---/6--5-------------->
E-----3/------------3---3/-------------3------------->


People Stare...        What's the use..   
e---------------------------------------------------------------------------
b---------------------------------------------------------------------------
g------7-6---5-3-------------------7-6------5-3--------------------------
d----------------------8---10---8----------------------8---10---8--------
a-----------------------6/8---/6------------------------6/8---/6--5------
E------7-5---5-4------3/-----------5-5-----5-4-------3/-------------3---

Fill 1
e-------------------------
b-------------------------
g-------------------------
d-------------------------
a-3/7---5------3/10----5--
E--------3----------8---3-

That should be good for a sketch...One hint, learn to make the slides quick 
and kinda pounce on the strings to create a beat...listen to any solo 
version of the song and you'll see what I mean.  Also add lots of high 
5ths and 7ths to imitate boyd's picabo on the violin.  Good luck and 
please make any corections you see fit - I do make mistakes as my 
engingeering exam will prove.


                -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: sauldude@merle.acns.nwu.edu (saul e. wertheimer)
Time/Date: 9:51 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: 10-28 grovel (chicago)

hey all--

does anyone out there have a copy of the show at the vic theatre in chicago 
on oct.28th?  it was my first & only show, & i'd really dig a copy.  i don't 
have any dmb to trade, but i've got a pretty decent amount of some tasty 
phish, as well as some other random stuff.  

peace...
sauldude.

saul e. wertheimer
northwestern university
1820 chicago ave., #4016          "control for smilers can't be bought,
evanston, il 60201                 the solar garlic starts to rot."
sauldude@merle.acns.nwu.edu                 - PHiSH
(708) 332-7314                            


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 10:07 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject:

Sorry I'll make the first correction...

e---------------------------------------------------->
b---------------------------------------------------->
g---9-9---7-6---5-3---------------------------------->
d-------------------------8---10---8-----8---10---8-->
a--------------------------6/8---/6-------6/8---/6--->
E---9-8---7-5---5-4-----3/--------------3/----------->

should be:

    
e---------------------------------------------------->
b---------------------------------------------------->
g---9-7---7-6---5-3---------------------------------->
d-------------------------8---10---8-----8---10---8-->
a--------------------------6/8---/6-------6/8---/6--->
E---9-8---7-5---5-4-----3/--------------3/----------->
      ^	
      |
       	         -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: SDOTY@midd.cc.middlebury.edu
Time/Date: 10:11 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: 12/30/94

Hey-- I was just wondering if anyone has an extra ticket for the 30th???
I really would like to go to the concert, so if anyone has an extra one or knows
   of a place that might have one (I assume it's sold out )-- please get in touc
   h
with me!!!!
Thanks-
Sarah
sdoty@midd.middlebury.edu


Posted By: Victor Wandres <wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Time/Date: 10:13 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: Recently TAB!!!!

> 
> WOW!!
> 
> THank you so much for replying to the request for a TAB so soon!!!!
> 
> Also, thanks for posting the end chords of Jane, I really appreciate it!
> 
> 
> .......................what a cool guy
> 
> 
> Victor
> -------------------------------
> wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
> -------------------------------


Posted By: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 10:14 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: the icebox menagerie...12-7-94

tonight i had my last icebox menagerie for the fall semester, but i
thought i'd share just to show people what to expect.

for those of you here with me at jmu, remember, mondays, 12-2.

like i said, it's not much when i'm tied down by our rotation
policies, but anyway:

the icebox menagerie, wednesday, 12-7-94, 8-10pm

big white bird, rusted root, 11-9-94, lexington va
into the sea, god street wine
spoonful of sugar, the verve pipe, aware II  **
lengthwise-->
maze
eleanor, shannon worrell, aware II  **
what we lose, judybats *
good things, bodeans *
sparkle, rosemary's *
lovepipe, rent party
believe what you're saying, sugar
the big hand, the cure
6' 1", liz phair *
gather grey, the dirges *
dance of the loomi, ozric tentacles *
get in line, dmb, 11-9-94
out of range, ani difranco *
the man who would be santa, vertical horizon, aware II **
every little thing she does is magic, the polic
red light, u2
move, day by the river *
will the circle be unbroken, SGGL  *
random drug testing, cub koda

** i highly recommend the aware II cd to anyone, anywhere
*  these are artists that would probably appeal very much to
   anyone with an affection for dmb.

also, for those here at jmu and in the general h-burg area next
tuesday night, i'm going to be doing dmb all night long on wxjm
starting sometime b/w 12:30 and 1:30 and finishing between 4 and
5 (whenever i'm too tired to go on:).

88.7 fm.

and trust me, the icebox menagerie will be even more geared towards
this genre next semester, and the setlists will actually be interesting. :)

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 10:18 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Not again!

Jesus, I'm having brain farts...Ignore my last post and try this

Sorry I'll make the first correction...again.

e---------------------------------------------------->
b---------------------------------------------------->
g---9-9---7-6---5-3---------------------------------->
d-------------------------8---10---8-----8---10---8-->
a--------------------------6/8---/6-------6/8---/6--->
E---9-8---7-5---5-4-----3/--------------3/----------->

should be:

    
e---------------------------------------------------->
b---------------------------------------------------->
g---9-8---7-6---5-3---------------------------------->
d-------------------------8---10---8-----8---10---8-->
a--------------------------6/8---/6-------6/8---/6--->
E---9-7---7-5---5-4-----3/--------------3/----------->
      ^	
      |
       	         -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: jazzbo@eliza.netaxis.com (Dave Hamilton)
Time/Date: 11:01 PM Wednesday, December 7, 1994
Subject: Re: Macintosh .au player

Check around on your favorite ftp site for a program called "SoundApp"

It's awesome... it'll play any sound that exists.  Of course, there are
PLENTY of other programs for the Mac that'll play .au sounds, but SoundApp
is my favorite.

                                        -Dave

P.S.  Have a nice day.
--
Have you ever gotten sick of hearing AT&T take credit for things that they
didn't invent?  You will.

                                -Dave Hamilton (jazzbo@eliza.netaxis.com)


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 12:18 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: San Francisco Article

   After the end of my little sojourn (DMB's first four California shows
all in a row), I think it was CHA who asked me how they were received in
the Bay Area, the birthplace of what one might label, for lack of a better
word, "alternative" culture.  I refer with this word more to its dictionary
definition than to its popular connotations.  Anyway, enough rambling.  I
found an article in the San Francisco Chronicle that was a full-scale
review of the Dec. 4 show at the Great American Music Hall and quite well
written, IMHO.  The last section is  especially interesting.

BTW, this was the OLDEST DMB crowd that I've ever seen.
And also, this was the first band review that I've seen that hasn't
compared Dave's voice to anyone else's.
Here it is, with lots of big words (my comments in {}):

DAVE MATTHEWS BAND FINDS A GENUINELY NEW SOUND by Joel Selvin
----------------------------------------------

With its fresh, unconventional sound, the Dave Matthews Band looms as one
of the big surprises on the rock scene this year.
        A capacity crowd jammed the Great American Music Hall on Sunday to
witness the quintet from Charlottesville, Va., make its San Francisco
debut.  It was a hip young house liberally dotted with recently
transplanted Southerners who already had caught on to this exciting new
group.  {THAT'S ME!!!!}
        Although radio has been slow to respond to the major-label debut by
the Matthews quintet, word obviously is now spreading past the mid-Atlantic
seaboard, where the band has been turning on the collegiate crowd for three
years.  {THAT'S YOU!!!!}

Albums Doing Well
-----------------
        The band's first, self-releaased album has sold more than 100,000
copies in the past year, and "Under the Table and Dreaming," its RCA Victor
album, which benefits from major-league production by Steve Lilywhite (U2,
Talking Heads, Rolling Stones), has made more than a modest splash since
its release this year.
        Blending the sonorous harmonies of violin and saxophone at the
front of a three-piece rhythm section, with vocalist Matthews playing
acoustic guitar, the arresting ensemble sound of the band relies on
changing time signatures, prominent use of dynamics and a passionate
commitment.  {pretty good summary}
        With songs that seem to tumble to a start, the band stretched out
its material, using each number as a platform for extended exercises in
both individual improvisation and ensemble instrumentals.  Violinist Boyd
Tinsley brought the crowd to fever pitch, sawing and wheezing away, before
saxophonist LeRoi Moore {this is the show that LeRoi played best in} took
the foreground with his rich, melodic tones, a kind of New Age Junior
Walker.  {Call me ignorant, but who is this?}
        But it was Matthews who stayed at the center of the pulsing,
kaleidoscoping pastiche, stoking the rhythmic drive with energetic, vivid
figures on his acoustic guitar and charging the songs with electrifying
vocals, searing one moment, soothing the next.
        Although the show drew from the RCA album, the band demonstrated a
songbook far deeper than most freshman entries {I'LL SAY!}.  "Tomorrow
We'll Go Back to Being Friends," a song about friends who cross the line
into lovers, nailed down the plaintive narrative with a crisp attack,
Tinsley's violin marking accents underneath Matthews' stormy vocals.  {I
like that adjective!}
        "Dancing Nancies" was an elongated contemplation on the nature of
self that rolled through cloudy, dramatic moods, a minor epic.  {It was a
good version}
        Melding a variety of unusual sounds, the band fashioned an
imaginative unity stitched together by a fierce mutuality of purpose.
Underneath the unexpectedly integrated front line, drummer Carter Beauford
and bassist Stefan Lessard entwined a lattice of rhythm that propelled the
constantly shifting sound.  {WOW!}

Swinging Groove
---------------
        Lessard sometimes took the melodic lead, driving the band into a
crescendo, then settled back into a swinging groove that would not have
been out of place in a salsa.  {Never thought of him that way}
        But judging from the enthusiastic reception the nearly two-hour
performance {WRONG! I think it was about 2 and a half} received, the
audience was not looking for the Dave Matthews Band to fit into some
preconceived category.  {Thank God!}

=46inding a Genuinely New Sound
-----------------------------
        The creative stagnation in the rock world has reached a level where
certain kinds of minority music have been lumped together under the term
"alternative."
        But much of this "alternative" music actually sounds alike.  The
real challenge for musicians is to find a means of expression free enough
of clich=E9 to be an authentic alternative.  This is the most exciting
triumph of the Dave Matthews Band.




Sorry about the comments, but I couldn't help myself.


                                M A L A C H I
                        /===========================\
                       / Malachi@Leland.Stanford.edu \
                      /              ***              \
                      \           Jeff Heys           /
                       \         PO Box 4867         /
                        \     Stanford, CA 94309    /
                         \=========================/


Posted By: keith oliver <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:20 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: gatherings

ok-- just a few things.  first, for the atlanta pre-show whatever, the
  place shug mentioned is cool, but every time i've been there, it was LOUD.
  i'm talking loud loud -- but, then again, everything is loud everywhere
  any time ive ever been there (im talking a/b the vortex, btw) ??  The good
  news about the underground is this:  anyone could stop at any gas station
  in atlanta and get good directions -- the bad news is that those directions
  don't lead anywhere even close to the fox.  i guess we'll figure it out. And
  then, for the birmingham show the next night, if anyone is going and wants to
  do _something_, then i can conjure up some kind of plans to do whatever.  Im
  1 hour from bham, but I know the area okay enough.  a few people are going to
  both so we'll just keep gathering and gathering....  and 1 more thing-- will
  one of you in VA (clareemily, scott, rick) or in ashville (dusty or alex) or
  whoever, please tell me where ashville, nc is in relation to richmond?  I
  want to try to figure out how to do this vday road trip on a tuesday.

oh-- and one more thing (promise this is it)--  i don't know when all of you
 lose access over the break, or even if you do -- but i don't, so I'm going to
 post a form for the rare dave tape that chris is making.  I don't know how
 many people are interested, so i though i might as well get some of the forms
 out of the way over break (considering I only have 1 final left, and I'm not
 leaving for another 15 days).  I will do this tomorrow, so the people who
 send it back won't have to fuck with it again.


                                            keith


Posted By: Matthew Thompson <matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:40 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: San Francisco Article

Thanks for posting the review Malachi! Amazing!
I'd never have thought of so many adjectives to use to describe the band, but
there you are. Too bad I couldn't make it that night (too much work).

Matt


Posted By: jogriffith@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Time/Date: 1:23 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Good Times Virus a Hoax!!

>Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 1:34:32 -0500 (EST)
>From: jonathan@cs.swarthmore.edu
>Subject: [reserved-students] Good Times virus information
>To: IN%"jogriffith@vassar.edu"
>
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>Date: 07 Dec 1994 01:34:04 -0500
>From: jonathan@cs.swarthmore.edu (Jonathan Feinstein)
>Subject: [reserved-students] Good Times virus information
>To: jogriffith@vassar.edu
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>>From: sjohnson@cc.swarthmore.edu (Sherri Johnson)
>>To: reserved-students@cc.swarthmore.edu (mailing list)
>>Subject: [reserved-students] Good Times virus information
>>X-Comment: Unix listserver 6.0b5
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>>The Good Times message on Swarthmore campus, claiming to have a virus, was
>>a hoax intending to incite panic.  There was no virus in the message, and
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>>be transferred from one place to another via email, but they are HARMLESS
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JT Griffith                               "If you want peace then live alone
Box #2012 Vassar College                   If you wanna hide then find a stage
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601-6198                Each a brief but perfect home
jogriffith@vassar.edu                      To accomodate your rage."
Words of the day:  "Je n'ai pas de pantelons"                 -John Popper
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: M * C * L <lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Time/Date: 1:46 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject:

	Could someone please write me with the lyrics to "Say Goodbye"?

Your kindness would be greatly appreciated!

			Thanks, 

				Mike in Colorado...


Posted By: jogriffith@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Time/Date: 1:52 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject:

Hey all!  I am interested in starting a trade before break, and especially
during break when I will have lots of time to dub.  I posted a while ago
about wanting DMB tapes and I faded away cause of my thesis.  BUT I AM
BACK.  I would prefer trades of DMB for Blues Traveler, but anything
(including blanks) is cool!  Lets get in touch and trade the music we love.

By the way, I have become a Dave fan because of UTTAD.  I have been a
lurker for a long time and just wanted to say that I will post my thoughts
about the Ants debate, etc later.  For now I love the music and can tell
how awesome DMB must be live.  Help me learn!  (selfish me!) And I will do
the same with Blues Traveler for those who don't know them that well, or
anyone.  Regardless I crave new music and I love DMB.  Let's trade!  Below
is a list of tapes i have to trade and ones I am expecting...

                --JT


Tapes I have to trade:

oRoanoke, VA 1988 (3rd)
Motherfunker/Cleopatra Rap*/Closing Down the Park*
* w/ Chris Barron

oMuhelnberg College (4-29-90) (3rd)
Gina/Weird Chick/But Anyway/Mulling it Over/Warmer Days/Sweet Talking
Hippie/Rock Me Baby

o"Blues Bake" - (8-18-90) (2nd)
Tape 1:  Brother John/Gotta Get Mean>Gloria>Gotta Get Mean/Crystal
Flame/Blues Bike/Jam w/ Spin Doctors/Your Momma's a Pajama/How Could You
Want/Big Fat Funky Booty/At This Hour/House/Bursted Out/Hard to Resist

Tape 2:  Love of My Life */100 Years */ Alone/ Sweet Talking Hippie/But
Anyway/Dropping Some NYC
* w/Roger Fox on Flute

Tape 3:  Spins set with tons of songs (not written out for this message but
great set!)

oooThe Marquee (9-29-90) (3rd)
Trust in Trust/Brother John/Mulling it Over/Dropping Some NYC/Support Your
Local Emperor/What's For Breakfast/Warmer Days/Sweet Talkin
Hippie/Optimistic Thought/Gina/Filler

oCapitol Theatre (10-6-90) (3rd)
But Anyway/Mountain Cry/Dropping Some NYC/Motherfunker

oDillon Gym, Princeton NJ (1-18-91) (3rd)
Tape 1:  Guitar Soundcheck/Popper w/C. Funk Band/Ivory Tusk/Trust in
Trust/Mulling it Over/Dropping Some NYC/Support Your Local Emperor/Filler: 
Spin's Little Miss Can't Be Wrong/Slow Change/Come
Together/Motherfunker/But Anyway/Filler:  Spin's Rosetta Stone

Tape 2:  Lori/100 Years/Alone/Sweet Talkin Hippie/Crystal Flame


oCapitol Theatre (1-19-91) (3rd)
Dropping SOme NYC/Support Your Local Emperor/Mulling it Over/But
Anyway/Warmer Days*/Ivory Tusk/Motherfunker/Escaping/100 Years**/Alone
* w/ Jean Osborne, ** w/ Jean Osborne and Roger Fox


oMarquee NYC (9-29-90) (4tf)
But Anway/Johnny B. Goode 

oooRoseland New Year's Eve (4th)
Hey Dic>Two Princes>Jam (w/Jean Osbourne, Merle Saunders, Chris Barron,
Arnie)>Droppin' Some NYC/Mullin it Over

oMarquee (1990) (3rd)
Love of My Life/The Best Part/100 Years/Alone/Gotta Get Mean/Crystal Flame


The tapes I am expecting:

Blues Travler
>03/05/91        BEAVER CREEK, CO        2ND/SBD
>03/21/91        JOSHUA'S  CO.   2ND/SBD
>05/28/92        BALLY'S SHOWROOM - LAS VEAGAS, NV       2ND/SBD
>07/30/93        HORDE @ SPAC     SBD
>12/31/93 - Roseland, NYC - 2nd/sbd
>5/20/94 - Ventura Theater,  Ca  - 1st/sbd

        
        PHISH
                format of info:  date  venue (gen source) length
*10/20/89  The Front, Burlington, VT (w/Dave Grippo and Russ Remington) 190 min
*2/20/93  Atlanta, Georgia (sbd) 180 min
*8/20/93  Red Rocks, Morrison, CO (2nd sbd) 200 min
*12/30/93  Portland, ME (aud) 180 min
*5/7/94 The Bomb Factory, Dallas, TX Set II (sbd) 90 min
*6/11/94 Red Rocks, Morrison, CO (2nd FM broadcast) 190 min
*7/2/94 GSAC, New Jersey (aud) 180 min
*7/8/94 Great Woods, Mansfield, MA (0th aud) 190 min
*7/13/94 Big Birch, Patterson, NY (aud) 190 min
10/31/94 Glens Falls (2nd gen) 90,100,100min

        DMB
Boulder 8-94, 
Somewhere in'92
9/27/94 U.Va amphitheatre 90min
11/9/94 Lexington 2*90min
11/11/94 Wait Chapel 2*90min


i have the most recent Boston Show and the Irving Plaza show coming as well
(Blues Traveler)...both are supposed to be amazing quality from DAT.

I also have 2 Boom Band shows which are great (they are a small band that
Josh Bloom works for (he is a bud on the net)...

More coming later...





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JT Griffith                               "If you want peace then live alone
Box #2012 Vassar College                   If you wanna hide then find a stage
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601-6198                Each a brief but perfect home
jogriffith@vassar.edu                      To accomodate your rage."
Words of the day:  "Je n'ai pas de pantelons"                 -John Popper
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: "M. David Toole" <toolemd@mail.auburn.edu>
Time/Date: 4:24 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 369

On Tue, 29 Nov 1994 FORTINJS@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU wrote:

> 	First of all the correct spelling is Dave Matthews. Some idiots have
> been misspelling dave's name which really pisses me off. After all we are all
> brought together because of this man and his band the least you could do is
> spell his name right. 

Although my feelings may not be as despondent towards this and other 
issues, I have an incredible photo of yours truly under a sign at the 
backstage in seattle.  it was this summer's show and the sign read 
'midnight, dave mathews band.'  well to make a long story short, the 
drive was long but the show and the beer were FREE so the minor 
grammatical error didn't matter.  :)

yip, yip 
             :)  Toole

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             'A woman may veil her face with a smile.'       
                            K.Gibran
----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Posted By: "SHUT UP! i'm thinking..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:20 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: recently tab

i have a feeling this will get rehashed by me, ben, and everyone else
until we've got it _perfect_, so let's get started:

>
>Okay so I just aced physics so I decided to share the wealth and post the 
>outline to recently...
>
>Intro (very tripping billies esque)
>
>/=slide
>e---------------------------------------------------->
>b---------------------------------------------------->
>g---9-9---7-6---5-3---------------------------------->
>d---6-6---4-4---2-2-------8---10---8-----8---10---8-->
>a--------------------------6/8---/6-------6/8---/6--->
>E---9-8---7-5---5-4-----3/--------------3/----------->
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     note the extra    
     fingerings on    
     the d string   

that's the only correction i can make without a copy of the
song and a guitar...ben?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Erin.Keys@mail.trincoll.edu (Erin Keys)
Time/Date: 9:42 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: Vday road trip-

I may be up for such a trek!  I'm over here at Trinity, which isn't far
away from New Haven.  It will depend on work and all, so i can't commit
yet.  but what the hell, why not.             Take care and peace, Erin


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG ("K.A. Long")
Time/Date: 9:46 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Naw, I wouldn't do that....

Jeffrey a.k.a. Malachi sez:

the foreground with his rich, melodic tones, a kind of New Age Junior
Walker.  {Call me ignorant, but who is this?}


I would never call you ignorant.  Jr. Walker was one of the greats
from the 60's/70's Motown/Stax R&B musicians.  One of my favorite
hits was "What Does It Take".  Jr. Walker and the All Stars.  Great
music, beautiful lyrics, soothing harmonies.

klong


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG ("K.A. Long")
Time/Date: 11:12 AM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Dressing for the Symphony

I used to go to Kennedy Center all the time.  Dress for these
events ranged from evening gowns to jeans.  I was on the jeans
end of the spectrum.  I think it would be o.k. to show up dressed
however you felt most comfortable.

klong


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 1:30 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: San Francisco article

All I want to say about that article about DMB in the San Francisco chronicle
is:
Who the hell wrote that??  Webster's thesaurus??
 
Steve


Posted By: 6705625@sunybroome.edu
Time/Date: 3:26 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Sympathy

I have heard that the DMB do a cover for Sympathy for the Devil. Does
anybody know what show they played this at, or better yet, have it on tape.
I have stuff to offer, so if you are interested please drop me a line.
I'd like to do some trading.

                                     Heavy Head


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 4:00 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: a random statement

since i've undigestified, i've made an astonishing discovery.

it makes this net so interactive that i can take part in any
conversation i want to as it happens.  it use to be i would sit
there and read entire threads to the point where they would get
stale and i would have nothing to say.

not that i make the threads any more lively by taking part in
them, but now the part of me that's so outspoken that i just
want to explode (a large part of me, that is) is much happier.

i'm not sitting here to justify why everyone should undigestify
and have a free for all, because 2/3 of you reading this have 
probably never posted, nor do you plan to.  digestifying works
for some people, but i've discovered it's not for me.

so what's my point?

under no circumstances should we even think about forming a usenet
group (or whatever) with this kind of interactivity.  3 words: look
at phish.net.  they have a usenet group which leads to the most
random flamebait ever concieved, which also leads to enormous
flame wars that are a tawdry affair, PARTICULARLY for the digestified
people (which is everyone on phish.net).  we have interactivity here
for those who want it.  if you want to be an active part of this
net, just undigestify.  i have no qualms about starting a separate
new group for those who just love usenet, but we simply don't need
all the extra traffic here.

anyone agree?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Matthew Thompson <matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU>
Time/Date: 4:14 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: DMB

----- Begin Included Message -----

>From owner-blues-traveler@cs.umd.edu Thu Dec  8 12:30 PST 1994
From: burbym=40x400#%forwarder@sonypic.geis.com
Subject: DMB
Date: 8 Dec 1994 15:04:28 -0500
To: blues-traveler@cs.umd.edu

 
O.K., I saw Dave Matthews Band last night at the Whisky here in L.A. and I'm
raving so hard this morning people around here think I'm a loonatic.  Who
they ask?  Ahhhh, your loss. So be it. I mention it here because this net
inspired me to check them out.  They  played an incredible 2+hour set (I
didn't stop dancing) and the Gila dude, the one who's band posts here...
HI... played harmonica on their encore (What Would You Say).
 
O.K., so Santa? This is what I want for 1995 --I want to see DMB and BT
together.  And I want that acoustic Ovation with the pick-up...
 
 --Meg
 


----- End Included Message -----


Posted By: Jeremy Cameron Davis <jcdavis@wam.umd.edu>
Time/Date: 4:50 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: DMB at the Ritz 9/94

Does anybody have the setlist from the Ritz on 9/94???
Thanks!


Posted By: David Brian Hirko <dbh4n@watt.seas.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 4:54 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Tape question

I was wondering if anyone knew a date to a show at the Wetlands
I have?  Throughout the show, Dave makes reference to John
Popper playing later on that night.  Does this sound familiar
to anyone?   Thanks!


                                  Dave


Posted By: "Edward Whitehead Elmore, Jr" <ewe2j@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 5:01 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: dmb/samples

This is in response to Mike's question about DMB and the samples. While the
bands certainly have a long relationship some of you probably were there when
Sean Kelly played during DMB's break.
 The show was after the HORDE in Richmond in July of 93. Kelly(samples lead
vocalist) took the stage with thee words "This is kind of unexpected but its
a good thing because the Dave Matthews Band has become one of my most
favorite bands. Ready Boyd." He and Boyd melodized thru 3 beautiful versions
of "Feel Us Shaking", "Did YOu Ever Look So Nice", and "Oceans of War". It
was amazing. IT was a dramatic demonstration of what Boyd can do for a song.

This show also featured a crazy approximately 30 minute jam of #36 the first
time I'd heard the song and I believe one of the first times it had been
played.

One hell of a day.

The perfect combination of Tinsley & Samples shows up on the Samples latest
album as well.

By the way does anyone have extra tickets to NYE -- some of my friends were
too slow in getting tickets.

Thanks

"CAUSE I'M SCARED SHITLESS" -- Dave at Lex


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 5:01 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Dancing Nancies

I see that Dancing Nancies is also absent from the chord file so here it is
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dancing Nancies is roughly as follows:
-------------------------------------
G                 F#
could I have been anyone other than me...

G - F#
he stands touch his head shoes untied
tongue gaping stare could i have been
magnet for money
could i have been anyone other than me

twenty three i'm so tired of life
such a shame to throw it all away
the images grow darker still
could i have been anyone other than me

A              D		    A
look up at the sky my mouth is open wide
    lick and taste what's the use in hurrying
               what's the use in worrying

D	    F#		   G
turn turn we almost become dizzy

(back to the G-F# pattern)

The last pattern in this song is

Bm - D - A - F#7sus4 (which looks like this)

		-2------
		-2------
		-4------
		-2------
		-4------
		-2------
Bm		    D  		 A		
sing and dance i'll play for you tonight

		F#7sus4	
the thrill of it all

Bm		D		A	
dark clouds may hang over me sometimes

		F#7sus4
but i'll work it out
----------------------------------------

sean

				Sean Spicer
		       Duke University Dept. of Physics
			   <driver8@phy.duke.edu>


Posted By: "Sanford A. Fine" <saf1@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 5:03 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: dave in D.C.

to all who are going to the show on the 30th, please read:

Last week, I asked if anyone who was going to the Bender show wanted to 
trade before, and several people responded, with one person suggesting 
the will call window area as a convienent and easy-to-find site.

so, if you are going to the show, let's all meet around 7 at the will 
call window with some tapes and do a little trading and hanging out.  the 
show starts at 8, so 7 should be plenty of time to deal and still see 
>From Good Homes play.

how does this plan sound?
see you at the show!!!

good luck on finals, all dmb fans!!

sandy


Posted By: bell8779@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU (*-MR.WHITE-**)
Time/Date: 5:11 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Help...

	Could someone please tell me how to Undigestify my mail?

Your help would be greatly appreciated!

	thanks......Mr. White


Posted By: M * C * L <lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Time/Date: 5:14 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Che Findlay Roop...

	Che Findlay Roop, this is to you, i lost your email address!

	Anyway, i sent your tape off today...it should be there soon.

	how's my tape coming along?

		Just wondering....

				One of the few DMB fans in Greeley, CO,

							Mike Lund


Posted By: djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us (Daniel Blanchat)
Time/Date: 5:49 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: a random statement

When I made my suggestion about forming a news group, it was more as a way
to get the flame wars OFF the mailing list and onto the newsgroup.  That way
we could have rational discussions here.  I didn't wanna have the list be
a digest of the group.  But I made that suggestion before I undigested, and
started filtering my mail. :-)

For anyone who is capable of reading their mail more than once a day, and
enjoys being an active participant, I say don't digest.  Also, if
you're like me and have a really short attention span, it helps to be
able to read the messages individually.

On the other hand, if you CAN'T read your mail regularly, and don't
have access to a way to filter your mail, DON'T undigest, as your
mailbox will get flooded quickly.

Dan
-- 
Daniel J. Blanchat     | Always retain some control over your actions, for
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | when you react by instinct alone, you become as
Dave Matthews FAQ Type | the demons that wish to become you. - Me

<A HREF="http://mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us/~djb/dmb">Dave Matthews Band FAQ</A>


Posted By: brgraf@mail.wm.edu (grafton benjamin r)
Time/Date: 6:04 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: dmb tapes

Hey!
    Does anybody have any tapes they wanna trade?  We currently have 900
minutes of Dave is anyone is interested.  All are soundboard quality and
we only tape on good quality tapes (Maxell XL II's).  Here's what we have
now:
   * 7/17/94- Seattle, Wash (w/filler-2/25&31/94)  (180 min)
        (incl. Lie in Our Graves, So Much to Say, Exodus)
   * 7/30/94- Brown's Island, Richmond  (90 min)
        (incl. Two-Step, Say Goodbye)
   * 2/22/94- Trax, Charlottesville (w/filler-Dave&TimReynolds-12/8/93)
                                                    (180 min)
        (incl. Help Myself, #36, True Reflection, Granny, Chatterbox, You
                                                            are My Sanity)
   *  1/3/94- Variety Playhouse, Atlanta  (180 min)
        (incl. Granny, #36, Lie in Our Graves, True Reflection, Quick Lay
                                                              and Goodbye)
   * 2/4-5/94- Georgia Theatre, Athens  (90 min)
        (incl. Granny)
   * 10/30/94- Wetlands, NY  (180 min)
        (incl. Granny, Help Myself, Lie in Our Graves, True Reflection,
                                    Just For Tonight, Satellite/After Her)

    We included unreleased songs so everyone can get songs they haven't
heard yet.  By the way, if anyone responds to this, please include To Dave
and Sonny in the Subject if you can.  It just makes it easier for us to
get all our mail.
    And by the way, if any of you see a message very similar to the
beginning of this, just ignore it.  I accidently sent the message before I
was done writing it--OOPS. Later,

                Dave and Sonny


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu (Bruce Ricker 887-6646)
Time/Date: 6:17 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: S T E V E

 hello
i just wanted to tell steve seremeth that the tapes are on the way for
lexington, and a thank you is in order. oh yeah... there's even a holiday
treat enclosed as well
thanks again
-bruce


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 6:34 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: dmb/samples

On Thu, 8 Dec 1994, Edward Whitehead Elmore, Jr wrote:
> favorite bands. Ready Boyd." He and Boyd melodized thru 3 beautiful versions
> of "Feel Us Shaking", "Did YOu Ever Look So Nice", and "Oceans of War". It
> was amazing. IT was a dramatic demonstration of what Boyd can do for a song.

This also included Sean's very prophetic rewording of a samples song..

"Did you ever eat brown rice?!?!"

It happened, i swear....
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Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 6:50 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: I LOVE MOSAIC...

FTPing is so much fun!!!!!

netspace makes me .org

I just spend two hours downloading all of the graphics files. They are 
the coolest.

Ben-why is dave&carter the only .jpeg file?

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Posted By: Thomas Shaffer <tshaffer@camelot.bradley.edu>
Time/Date: 7:41 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: dmb/samples

On Thu, 8 Dec 1994, Sir Buford wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 8 Dec 1994, Edward Whitehead Elmore, Jr wrote:
> > favorite bands. Ready Boyd." He and Boyd melodized thru 3 beautiful versions
> > of "Feel Us Shaking", "Did YOu Ever Look So Nice", and "Oceans of War". It
> > was amazing. IT was a dramatic demonstration of what Boyd can do for a song.
> 
> This also included Sean's very prophetic rewording of a samples song..
> 
> "Did you ever eat brown rice?!?!"
> 
> It happened, i swear....
> 
> 
 
And, "Did you ever have head lice?", or "Did you ever have pet mice?"

By the way I saw the Samples last night in Peoria, and it was incredible!
They had a great set list.  Sean played a version of "Could It Be Another 
Change" that reminded me of a camp fire or something.  It was a very 
peppy version.  But cool nevertheless.  A friend of mine was brought up 
on stage by Sean, and played his guitar.  Also, to guitarists, I got 
Sean's set list from the ground in front of him, and it has all the fret 
numbers for his  capo.  So if you are curious as to where he puts the 
capo on some of their songs, drop me a line.  Here is the set list


Won't Be Back Again
Little Silver Ring 
Taking Us Home
Weight of the World
Feel Us Shakin'
Water Rush
Playground
Did You Ever Look So Nice
Prophit of Doom
Could It Be Another Change
When It's Raining
Giants
Seany Boy
Only To You
As Tears Fall
Taxi
Nothing Lasts for Long
Buffalo Herds & Windmills
Underwater People

Encore:
Birth Of Words

Sorry this had nothing to do with DMB.

By the way, I don't know any body that recorded the show, but if you did 
or you know somebody that did, please write me and tell me.  Thanks.

(Hello Bill & Mike in CO)

Geebs


Posted By: "Adam Vann (BK 1995)" <axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Time/Date: 7:59 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: dmb/samples

Whoever's looking for this, or whoever's interested...

DMB opened for the Samples sometime in April of this year (I'm tempted to 
say the 14th or so) at the Orpheum in Boston. Drove two hours to see 
Dave, missed all but two songs because the will- call line took forever. 
However, Boyd came out and played with the Samples on Feel Us Shaking- a 
nice touch. Anyway, a tape of this is kinda like what you're looking for, 
but I don't have one. At least you know what to look for.

	Amazed that there are as so people in the Northeast willing 
	to drive over 8 hours to see DMB and the symphony,
	Adam  


Posted By: Emily.Beck@mail.trincoll.edu (Emily Beck)
Time/Date: 8:19 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Re: T O U R !

> hi all
>i was wondering if anyone could give me a list of the dmb tour, because i
>am going home (nj) for chistmas and i was hoping to see them up north if
>they would be there i would like to be prepared! i will be leaving on the
>16th of dec. and will be here in nc until then, please inform me!
>                 - thanks   - bruce


hey there bruce...

dude, dmb will not be up north anytime soon i dont think, according to
their schedule that i recieved today via postmail.  there are many rumors
going round up here at Trinity that theyre coming to play for us in late
january.  they came last year for spring festival, as you may know. 
anyway, since their last dated concert is the NYE in richmond, they could
very well be playing up north a bit, but it all depends on how long is your
break.  i dont know how far north you live but i know that dmb makes
frequent stops in delaware at U of D.  

well i dont think i was much of a help.  but anyway, see you round...   
                                                
                                                                     emily.


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 8:34 PM Thrusday, December 8, 1994
Subject: oh no

>From the "Cool or Tool" list from one of the newspapers at my school:
 
1.Chips reruns
2.Melrose Place
3.2strap backpack
4.Climbing wall
5.Miami Hockey
6.DAVE MATTHEWS BAND (AHHHHHHHH!!!)
7.Rocky movies
8.Studying at Burger King lounge
9.Wearing hats low
10.Corduroys
 
Yikes,
 
Steve


Posted By: akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Jennie Akins)
Time/Date: 8:43 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Edwin and Worrell

Since a lot of DMB fans are also fond of Edwin McCain and Shannon Worrell,
just thought I'd let you all know that they will be playing in Charleston,
SC on January 6th.  Not sure of the venue yet, by if you're interested,
write me or Justin and we'll fill you in. Have a good break and a Happy
Tree Day!!!!

Jen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and
stick together."  --Robert Fulghum
"If you culivate a healthy poverty and simplicity, so that finding a penny
will literally make your day, then, since the world is planted in pennies,
you have with your poverty bought a lifetime of days.  It is that simple.
What you see is what you get."  --Annie Dillard
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jennie Akins
SPO 1117
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, TN     37383-1000
akinscj0@seraph1.sewanee.edu


Posted By: brgraf@mail.wm.edu (grafton benjamin r)
Time/Date: 9:15 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: correction

Yeah, Adam, you're right.  I accidentally mis-dated the Wetlands show as
10/30/94.  It should've been 10/30/93.  Thanks for keeping us honest.

        -Dave and Sonny


Posted By: M * C * L <lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Time/Date: 10:10 PM Thrusday, December 8, 1994
Subject: Mike in CO...

	JUST TO REITERATE WHAT GEEBS WAS SAYING....IF ANYONE OUT THERE IN 

	DMB LAND DID, OR KNOWS SOMEONE WHO RECORDED LAST NIGHT'S SHOW

	IN PEORIA, ILLINOIS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!!!!


	(the all caps are not meant to be angry caps, they are big 
because i really, really would like to get a copy of that show!)

			Colorado DMB & Samples fan....Mike Lund


Posted By: INSOMNIAC! <fostecl4@wfu.edu>
Time/Date: 10:47 PM Thursday, December 8, 1994
Subject: NYE tix!

To all you GENEROUS dave fans...
I am searching for 2 tickets to the NYE show at the Richmond Marriott. If 
there are ANY out there, please respond as fast as possible. I will pay 
the $52.50, and I have a cool bootleg of Election Day 1992 (who doesn't 
have it, though?) that I would include also! Although I hate to admit it, 
I'm fairly desperate for those tix! PLEASE..help a poor college kid out...
Carrie

$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?
Carrie L. Foster
Wake Forest Univ.               
Box 7883		         "uh...FINALS SUCK."
Winston-Salem, N.C. 27109                         -all of us
(910)759-1181                  
$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?


Posted By: jtbF93@hamp.hampshire.edu (Toby Beard)
Time/Date: 12:06 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Richmond Symphony show

        There will be no taping allowed at the Valintines show.  All decks,
mikes. etc. WILL BE CONFISCATED.  This is the symphony's rule not the
bands.  For more information call the DMB office. 

Toby Beard
Hampshire College box 233
P.O. Box 5001
Amherst, MA 01002
(413) 582-5804
 
        "No booze, no drugs, just caffeine."


Posted By: Brian Simpson <BWSIMP0@UKCC.uky.edu>
Time/Date: 12:36 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Ky. Date?????

    Has anybody got any info on the rumor about Dave and the gang playin'
in Lexington, Ky.  If this is truth,  many individuals would be very happy.
Please let me Know...

                                      Peace to all,
                                               Brian (everlong)
                                                     Simpson


Posted By: Jeremy Cameron Davis <jcdavis@wam.umd.edu>
Time/Date: 12:52 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: Richmond Symphony show

On Fri, 9 Dec 1994, Toby Beard wrote:

>         There will be no taping allowed at the Valintines show.  All decks,
> mikes. etc. WILL BE CONFISCATED.  This is the symphony's rule not the
> bands.  For more information call the DMB office. 

We shall just SEE about THAT! Muaahahahahaha (evil laugh)

There are ways.....(Pulls out wristwatch/tapedeck)

oh yes....there are ways...


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 1:01 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: we ate the food.. drank the wine...

everybody having a good time.... except you.
you were talking about the end of the world.

heh heh... 
i figgered they (the infamous 'they') would not let anyone tape v-day the 
show.. but me and chardy one of my fellow moon-children be both agreez dat we 
gots to take us in de mics in our attire. yanno? weze be thinkin dat we oughts 
to hide dem in bufords combat boots or in me evening gown.. yanno?
hee hee.. 
<>SMsorry. i eez bein much too silly to make any sense todayz.
in the words of pepe le pew, 'com weez me and we can make zee love to 
jour amour!' hee hee.

ok. nuff said. 
my mail is going about as schizo as me with a genetics exam in six hours 
and an abnormal psych exam in twelve.

so my sweets. hugs ans spoon...

and mr.reidenoue? don't tempt me with a date to the ballet.. ya never 
know if wishes might come true....

variable number tandem repeats... and a quote from my genetics prof:
  'the only cure for a criminally insane chicken is a butcher knife..'

hee hee.. i love that man! 
clare emily

*******************************************************************************
'march on. do not tarry. to go forward is to move toward perfection. march on,
  and fear not the thorns or the sharp stones on Life's path.' -kahlil gibran

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: "Adam Vann (BK 1995)" <axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Time/Date: 1:25 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: Richmond Symphony show

On Fri, 9 Dec 1994, Toby Beard wrote:

>         There will be no taping allowed at the Valintines show.  All decks,
> mikes. etc. WILL BE CONFISCATED.  This is the symphony's rule not the
> bands.  For more information call the DMB office. 

Ha Ha. Merely a challenge. I guarantee there'll be a deck in there. 100%. 
Tapers, as a breed, deal well with adversity.

	Wondering, once again, who's got the Neumanns,
	Adam


> 
> Toby Beard
> Hampshire College box 233
> P.O. Box 5001
> Amherst, MA 01002
> (413) 582-5804
>  
>         "No booze, no drugs, just caffeine."
> 
>       
> 
> 
> 


Posted By: William Griffith Lakenan <wl1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Time/Date: 1:44 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: Richmond Symphony show

Excerpts from mail: 9-Dec-94 Richmond Symphony show by Toby
Beard@hamp.hampshir 
>         There will be no taping allowed at the Valintines show.  All decks,
> mikes. etc. WILL BE CONFISCATED.  This is the symphony's rule not the
> bands.  For more information call the DMB office. 

Hey all,
    I have a question about this subject.  For fear of my deck, do they
actually have the legal right to take your stuff?  I know most tickets
have a statement on the back to the effect "the management reserves the
right to revoke this ticket if...", but nowhere do they say that they
can steal your stuff.  If anyone has a semi-factual response I would be
very interested.  I'm not posting this to generate a thread where
everyone and their mother voices their opinion.  Take it easy.

- Bill


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 1:57 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: v-day taping

I just bought my cumberbun/sony d7 and my combat boots/Neumann mics so we 
should be set to tape. The soundboard patch will go up my trousers into 
my bow tie/d7 also just in case...

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Posted By: Eric Doherty <EDOHERTY@MACALSTR.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:23 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Mpls show and trades

First, does anybody have the SETLIST for the DMB show in MINNEAPOLIS at the
Cabooze on 10/26/94.  It was my first show (the first time they played out
there).  I knew a lot of the songs but didn't write anything down and now all
that I remeber was they started with Seek Up :-)

Second, does anybody have tapes of the above mentioned 10/26/94 Mpls show!  I
didn't see any AUD tapers, but maybe somebody plugged into the SBD.

I would like to get more DMB tapes.  I have three 1st gen SBD shows from '93
and that is all at this point.  I am looking for HQ 1-3gen SBDs only.  Besides
the three DMB shows all 1st gen SBD (6/22/93, 10/26/93, 11/9/93), I also have
750+ hours of Grateful Dead and 175+ hours of "other".  I am sure you can find
something you'd like...if not then we won't trade...but if you have low gen
SBDs send me your list.

Peace!

Eric Doherty "edoherty@macalstr.edu"

One thing i've noticed about mailing lists...if people delete their .sig files
it makes reading the digest much easier....a little work on your side and a
lot less bandwidth for everyone else.


Posted By: William Dow <jugular@rhf.bradley.edu>
Time/Date: 2:27 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 387

> 
> By the way, I don't know any body that recorded the show, but if you did 
> or you know somebody that did, please write me and tell me.  Thanks.

ditto...
> 
> (Hello Bill & Mike in CO)

hey yourself...

jugular@rhf.bradley.edu


Posted By: pcharrig@students.wisc.edu (Patrick Harrigan)
Time/Date: 2:30 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Election day

What is so special about this election day show?  Are we celebrating the
GOP's new reign of terror? (Agh!)  OK, does anyone out there in etherland
have this show?  Obviously new to DMB, but have about 5 shows (all HQ).
Are tix available for V-Day still? No taping? Hah, hah, hah (ever heard of
the old minidisc in the popcorn trick?)

                ***If there is no dancing at your revolution, count me out.
                                    -Emma Goldman, anarchist, (1869-1940)***


Posted By: M * C * L <lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:53 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: V-Day Tapers!!!

	To all of you challenged recorders......

		Good luck guys....i know it is possible...i had a friend

	who taped a show (the group i don't remember at the moment) that 

	was highly illegal to record by running a patch off the soundboard

 	during
	
	the whole show without the sound man even knowing!  Another guy

	i heard about, had his DAT player in his crotch of his pants, 

	with the mics hidden in his top hat...the top hat was made of some

	high quality material to increase the quality of his recording, 

	too.  So, good luck and have fun doing it!!!  I know you guys

	can!  And, of course, if you are successful, don't forget to 

	drop me a line about doing some trading!!!

				DMB and Samples fan in Colorado,

							Mike Lund
P.S. Man, i wish i could be attending that, but due to distance and 
financial difficulties, i won't be able to.....damn!


Posted By: Juan Carlos MUNIZ <jcmuniz@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca>
Time/Date: 10:22 AM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Dancing Nacies tab

Subject: Re: Dancing Nancies Transcription
Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu> wrote:

>Dancing Nancies is roughly as follows:
>-------------------------------------
>G                 F#
>could I have been anyone other than me...

The chord used throughout the song is , I Believe,
a Gmaj7 insted of just plain ole G. You'll hear
a world of difference.

I think dave plays the intro like this, in case anyone's
curious:
  Gmaj7              
E------------------------------------------------
B------------------------2------------------------2
G---4-4-x---4-4-4-4-4----2-------4-4-x---4-4-4-4--2
D---4-4-x---4-4-4-4-4----2-------4-4-x---4-4-4-4--2
A--------x-----------------xx---------x------------
E-3------x3----------------xx--2------x2-----------

"x" means hit the strings while muted.

Repeat this ad nauseum. This is overly simplified
for purposes tabbing it out, but should get you
on the right track.

Kwon


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:00 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: v-day, so far away...

>
>	To all of you challenged recorders......
>		Good luck guys....i know it is possible...i had a friend
>	who taped a show (the group i don't remember at the moment) that 
>	was highly illegal to record by running a patch off the soundboard
> 	during
>	the whole show without the sound man even knowing!  Another guy
>	i heard about, had his DAT player in his crotch of his pants, 
>	with the mics hidden in his top hat...the top hat was made of some
>	high quality material to increase the quality of his recording, 
>	too.  So, good luck and have fun doing it!!!  I know you guys
>	can!  And, of course, if you are successful, don't forget to 
>	drop me a line about doing some trading!!!
>
>							Mike Lund


well, given the public nature of this net and all, i think you've 
just guaranteed that we're all going to be frisked at that show.
thanx.  :)

BUT

when dmb came to lexington and rusted root opened, all us over-zealous
taper types were all excited to be getting our first rusted root shows.
but when bagby found out about this excitement, he said, "but their 
contract states no soundboard patches," and <BOOP> are signal was gone.
then near the end of rr's set, boyd joins them on stage, and i casually
glance down at my deck (well, it wasn't actually mine, i borrowed it:),
and LO and BEHOLD......a signal, as pure, powerful, and plain as day
as leroi's high note on the 2-22-94 watchtower.  i point at it and
we all scramble like a collection of mighty mice screaming "here i come
to save the day!!!!!" and we get a phat copy of the unreleased tune
big white bird and a phatter copy of rain (off of when i woke).  as
soon as boyd disappeared, so did the signal.

SOOOOOOO....
what i think happened is that since boyd was on stage, and since he was
a part of the headlining band, his contract, which specifically allows
for taping, took precedence.

now when we get to the carpenter center on v-day, we'll be seeing "the
dave matthews band w/ the richmond symphony."
the two key points to this is that:
1)dave matthews is headlining, so maybe his contract can override the
  symphonies policies.
2)to the best of my knowledge, the symphony will only be playing material
  that is copyrighted by the dave matthews band which falls under the
  same contract.  probably one of the reasons they have a no taping
  policy is to protect great 20th century composers who are very exacting
  about their music, and wouldn't want it taped by some random joe schmoe 
  or chris buford.

any thoughts, anyone?
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Tom Schwenk <trs9y@sgi-1.unixlab.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 12:52 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: Dancing Nancies

The gospel according to Dancing Nancy:
-> 
-> I see that Dancing Nancies is also absent from the chord file so here it is
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-> Dancing Nancies is roughly as follows:
-> -------------------------------------
-> G                 F#
-> could I have been anyone other than me...
-> 
-> G - F#
More specifically, the fingerings are:

E-----O-----------O-----------------------
B-----O-----------O-----------------------
G-----4-----------3-----------------------
D-----O-----------4-----------------------
A-----2-----------4-----------------------
E-----3-----------2-----------------------

-> 
-> Bm - D - A - F#7sus4 (which looks like this)
-> 
-> 		-2------
-> 		-2------
-> 		-4------
-> 		-2------
-> 		-4------
-> 		-2------
I've always played G#sus4 for this last one

		-4------
 		-4------
 		-6------
 		-6------
 		-6------
 		-4------

That's what it sounds like on the Recently EP.

Try it.  Tell me if I'm wrong.


			-later

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     "...You can't have everything.  Where would you put it?..."

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Tom Schwenk
trs9y@sunipc-3.unixlab.virginia.edu
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Posted By: Gavin Leo-Rhynie <rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com>
Time/Date: 1:12 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: DMB in DC

Two questions:

1. Does anyone know what time the show on Dec 30th at Bender Arena starts? I'm
planning on going down
    from NYC and am wondering I would have enough time to get there after work.

2. In "Jimi Thing", what does that line "Sometimes I walk there, Sometimes I
take a bus there..." referring to?
   Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Gavin


"We can't fight gravity on a planet that insists,
  that love is like falling, and falling is like this."
    - Ani DiFranco


Posted By: PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 1:18 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: DMB in Rolling Stone again...

	Article lovers check out the new double sized Rolling Stone (dated
12-29, David Letterman cover) for the "Year in Recordings" article.  Towards
the end of the article, the author devotes significant space to HORDE bands, 
including a nice paragraph on Dave and an accompanying picture of the UTTAD
album cover.  Nothing particularly new is said, but highlights include:
 
	"...one of the most ambitious releases of '94...almost unclassifiable,
the DMB sounds like four or five groups in one..."

Anyway, I know it's been said before, but anyone who hasn't checked it out yet,
give a listen to Shannon Worrell's CD, _Three Wishes_.  Amazing stuff.  Well,
back to my beloved wordperfect...

Greg Parisi


Posted By: Elizabeth J Pearson <hfejp@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu>
Time/Date: 1:29 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: up close and personal in Austin

Cliff, Arabella, and anyone else in the Austin, Texas area:

Dave and the band will be making a personal appearance of some sort (nobody
seems to know if they'll be performing or what) at the Austin Tower Records
on the Drag at 4:00 on Wednesday the 15th.  It might be very interesting to see
how crowded the store actually gets. . .

Good luck on finals to all.

Beth


Posted By: Jimmything <tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 1:33 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: rusted root in lex!!

Hello everyone --haven't posted in a while (I have exams in fact i have 
one in 12 hours AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!) -sorry i'm really stressed out...
ANYWAY- it has come to my attention that rusted root has been booked to 
play at Zollmans in Lex on ( or around) the 27 of Jan....
  * *
  \_/       (i didn't make up that face-chardy did)

Good luck on exams everyone 
-can't wait to get out of here    Mad River Glen is calling my name--


Scott did you get your Lex tapes????

"In any given situation there is always going to be more dumb people then 
smart people..."
-Ken Kesey

          ***********************************************
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	  *p.o. box 131      |price, my head up in the  *
	  *lexington VA 24450|stars and my feet planted * 
	  *(703)462-4784     |firmly on the ground..    *
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          *****MY HEAD WON'T LEAVE MY HEAD ALONE*********


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 1:36 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: change name...

********************************************
warning. contains contents of a singed mind.
********************************************

hey....

       anyone know this album: OTTAF.....it's a play on words from
the album UTTAD....sorry....my wild oats are swaying...and me mind
is in the.....* *    
              \_/         (i put this in here so DMB was represented
                                somewhere in this post!!!)


man its getting cold out...i predict this is going to be a short but 
bitter cold winter...damn,i forgot to bury enuff acorns...maybe the ant
will let me borrow some rice or something... Yea but...everything is so 
serious around me...i'm staring to feel it too...where's the light in 
this place in
time.........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
.............over break i hope to fast and play drums from the
23rd to the morning of the 25th...no sleep,food...just water.....
yea i'll be kinda delerious,borderline insane insane, but its a good 
cause...i will be playing this drum vigil for nothing but Peace on
Earth...nothing but Peace on Earth...yes, i may be kooky...yea, we
might be too far gone anyway...yes, chaos is probably right around the
corner...but i'm gonna' try it anyway...so if you feel some little
weird feeling sometime, check the date...maybe the atoms that were
disturbed by peace rhythms actually will travel...the rhythms really 
need to travel on the backs of a thosand winged atoms to reach the
darkest places on Earth....

this is a spiritual thing obviously, so if anyone wants to join in 
it would be an incredible experience...i'm totally serious.

...it will be very cold,yes, thats why the drum has to keep
going...grogginess will set in but delerium will show something
insightful and inspirational...ya'll might think its ridiculous i'd
even post something like this...oh well...you can stop the reality
postperson but you can't stop the electric postperson...bear with me
folks...winter is always a time for contemplation for moi...and this
one's already started out on the interesting side of darkness.....

anyway, i don't know where to play the drum for three days without
driving anyway as crazy as i'll get...preferably in Richmond so i can 
go home and celebrate the day with me parentals on the 25th...anyone?
...someone out there might want join in the madness...otherwise ya'll
will ban me from writing hippie-shit on the net...well anyway like i
said by the time i think aboout what was just sent out it 's too late 
to stop the electricity, so either hit D,P or M...it's easy and it's 
all up to ya'....PEACE.  
            
          (...a toast to all the Minaretter.Netter.Headers)

     Heres to the great winged desert rhino and snorting pixie stix,

                              CHA * *
                                  \_/


Posted By: JSLAGHT@drew.edu
Time/Date: 1:40 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: V_day Info

I just got my V-day tickets....Here's the scoop:
	Three ticket price ranges   $22.50
				    $29.50
				    $45.00
  To order call ticketmaster at 804 262 8100  
	YeeHaw!  I'm so excited!  
						droopy
	ps-Skidmore people...say hi to dave (sport) senior for me!


Posted By: "Brian T. Hauser" <hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu>
Time/Date: 1:48 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: MPEG viewers?

Hey all,
	Sorry for the lack of band info here, but can anybody recommend
a good MPEG viewer for PCs?  I found an FTP site with a ton of 'em, but
would like to know if one is better than any other...

Thanks,
Brian

________________________________________________________________________________

 Brian T. Hauser               hauser@chem.ufl.edu          TEL: (904) 392-3580
 Department of Chemistry    hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu     FAX: (904) 846-0296
 University of Florida
 Gainesville, FL  32611
 USA
________________________________________________________________________________


Posted By: Bob Kelley <pnut@eden.com>
Time/Date: 2:04 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: DMB in Austin

>From the 'Austin Chronicle'.."Don't believe the hype. Thanks, Chuck, I 
try not to, but the hype on the Dave Matthews Band is deafening. South
African expatriate relocates to Virginia where he meets up with what
sounds, on Under the Table and Dreaming, like a New-Age-side jazz band
complete with sax and fiddle players.  Then again, with Matthews' gritty 
vocal delivery and the group's pop songs, it all sounds very Counting
Crows-ish. Fifteen minutes or something real? One way to find out."

Although it was in the Recommended column...Counting Crows-ish?
Anyway, come on down--tix are only $7!
BK


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 2:07 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: The Atlanta Show and Gathering !!

I will soon be leaving school for xmas, which, unfortunately means that I will
be away from the Vax -->no communication with yaw'll.   So if you will
please-->  all of you who will be in the local atl. area code (404), will you
please send my you number so I can keep up with what's going on with the
gathering and trades?  Please.

The hotel idea sounds good to me.  Anyone found one?  If we put about 6 people
to a room, it shouldn't be that expensive.

Please get in touch!

alex


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 2:35 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: The WWYS Video and It's Possible Unintended Consequences

I know that my subject heading sounds alot like a term paper title, but I
really thought this needs to be discussed.

If eMpTy Vee get's ahold of it(WWYS VIDEO) and they like it, we could see it
 played as much
as snoop dog.  I am NOT saying that the exposure is all that bad, but its just
that mtv seems to exploit the music they play.  True, some of the musicians  on
mtv see it as a career and their route to the rich and famous.  I personally
don't think that mtv gives any shit about music, the quality of music, the love
of music, the passion,  the addiction, the spirituall aspects.  When they hear
good music, they hear dollar signs (Ca-chang) and not what it's really all
about.

Now, apply this to damaba.  Do you really think they want this to happen?  Do
they know that it really could possibly happen?  Do they know how it could
affect them, as a band?

Maybe they want what I described above to happen, maybe it IS their goal, and
if it is, I say More power to 'em.  However, if that's not what they want, they
could really be exploited,and not wanted it.

Take for example the Breeders.  I loved them for the longest time and had the
opportunity to see them play at a show where only aobut 50 people were there. 
However, "Cannonball"  (if you have ever watched mtv, i know you've seen this
video PLENTY of times!) came out on mtv as one of their "Buzz Clips" and that
right there wasthe end of the breeders.  People started buying breeders albums
b/c it was cool and trendy, not b/c they REALLY enjoyed the music.

Which leads to my hypothesis on the K. Cobain suicide.  I was never really into
nirvana, but i could tell that they were talented and that kurt really had
something to say.  However, everyone in this country began to see nirvana as a
fad and not as human beings really wanting to be listed to, really wanting to
have fun, really into music, and really wanting to share that music with others
and really touch them.  This was Kurts demise, and I don't want to see the same
thing happen to damaba.

I;m not trying to be "protective" of damaba and say that nobody has the right
to listen to them.  I'm sure in a few years most people are age can hear damaba
without mtv and without radio stations like 99X in atlanta.

What i really want to see is damaba beat the mtv system!  They can be
"successful" without mtv and exploitive radio stations (99x in atl.)

I know this does not directly concern me, but i'm just concerned for the
members of damaba.  I think that before they release their video, they should
really ask themselves A) What do we want to accomplish with this video?; and
B)What may be the consequenses of releasing it?

What do you all think?

alex


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 2:37 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: he said, 'you're really an ugly girl but i like the way you pray'

'i'm okay.. i'm okay.. how are you ?'
two exams down... three more and a portfolio left to turn in...
 
does anyone know if tickets are still available for the show on the 30th 
of dec in DC?

say a prayer for the dead pigeon i say today... he was beautiful and 
resting quietly on his back, one wing folded out with his head lying on 
it.. 
it was beautiful and transient...

love light and jubilance, 
clare 'mary poppins' emily

jason.. your tapes will (hopefully)go out tomorrow morning.. hugs...

*******************************************************************************
'march on. do not tarry. to go forward is to move toward perfection. march on,
  and fear not the thorns or the sharp stones on Life's path.' -kahlil gibran

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 3:01 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: v-day, so far away...

On Fri, 9 Dec 1994, your head is a shovel-- use it. wrote:


> 2)to the best of my knowledge, the symphony will only be playing material
>   that is copyrighted by the dave matthews band which falls under the
>   same contract.  probably one of the reasons they have a no taping
>   policy is to protect great 20th century composers who are very exacting

I don't know if they'll do this again, but when Bruce Hornsby played with 
the symphony, they opened up with som e classical stuff. Maybe we just 
cant tape that..

>   about their music, and wouldn't want it taped by some random joe schmoe 
>   or chris buford.
> 
Now that's rude, Mr."I don't own my own deck and have to borrow my 
roomates $5000 deck and I cant even make copies" Thompson...

I love the top hat idea. Think I can fit a Hi-8 camcorder in one??
hehehe..
Plan 2)dress up as bagby and go patch yourself...
Plan 3)we all know where bagby's patch comes out of...buy some black rca 
cables and a sony Dat with the dimable display and plug in!!!
Plan 4)hire both DMB and the symphony to play in my basement afterwards 
and tape that instead.


Posted By: "Pick up my smile, put it in my pocket for awhile." <RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 3:09 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: just what i kow

>     I have a question about this subject.  For fear of my deck, do they
> actually have the legal right to take your stuff?  I know most tickets
> have a statement on the back to the effect "the management reserves the
> right to revoke this ticket if...", but nowhere do they say that they
> can steal your stuff.  If anyone has a semi-factual response I would be
> very interested.  I'm not posting this to generate a thread where
> everyone and their mother voices their opinion.  Take it easy.


working at wolftrap this summer i saw many occurrences of "miss/sir you can't 
take that in there"-- they will not (if similiar to WT) take away your stuff 
if they get you before you get in... 
they will ask you to put it in your car.. if they
find you with it inside they will do what our park rangers do they say 
miss/sir can we have that... then procede to destroy the tape/film and say you
can pick this up at the conclusion of the night.... the also attach the
disclaimer we are not responsible for lost or damaged equipment-- this is where
some park rangers make out like bandits..

for what its worth...
rich


Posted By: uberschallgeschwindigkeitsflugzeug <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 3:15 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: oh, whatever. circles. rampant thoughts on clouds and mountains and other assorted things....

i hate that "subj:" part of sending a mail message.  it's like coming up
with a headline or something.  you have to summarize what you're going
to say and share it with everyone.  but what if you don't know what
you're going to say?  you wind up sitting in a computer lab pondering 
the yondering. i wish they could make a mail.server that asked you the 
subject when you were done.

at any rate, i shouldn't be in a computer lab right now.  i should be
studying my sockiology.  but i need to filter some of this crap in my
mind out so i have room for the study of socks.  anyway, this could get
ugly, this could get all kinds of bubbly pretty icky gooey mushy 
sentimental type things or whatever and i don't know what i'm talking
about so bear with me and all you know what i mean because i don't?

anyway,
i was walking away from my illustrious place of employment here at jmu
in an effor to fulfill the obligations of that employment, and i happened
to look up (that's a good tune by guadicanal diary, if you're interested).
and i saw clouds.  lots of 'em.  big fluffy grey things streaking along at
at least 60 mph.  pretty windy here in the 'burg this weekend.  windy.
ham.  waa.  nevermind.  anyway, as i was looking up at yonder sky and
seeing clouds kind of moving along at paces that are somewhat unimagineable
for clouds that large to be moving, i thought, "whoa, i'm looking at physics
here..."  i mean, look at it this way....all that water being moved at such
an alarming rate?  2 litres of water weighs 4 lbs.  not that i'm some 
european freak or something, but i don't know how much a gallon of water
weighs (all i know is that as a kid, spinning a five gallon bucket around
my head with it full of water and wondering how come the water never fell
out when the bucket went over my head would really feel like it was going
to pull my arm off...).  so, let's leave it at water wieghs alot.  and all
that water blowing along in the sky wieghs _ALOT_.  

and it just kind of humbled me.  very humble.  made me want to hug lots
of people and mumble things like "ratigan glumphoboo" and take off all
my clothes and be a part of a nature that my awareness kicked me out of
2 million years ago.  back to the woods kind of thing.  hunting and gathering
and wearing a loin cloth and not worrying about the difference between work
and clothes and and all sort of like the wauroani or however you spell it of
the andes foothills in western south america.  and then i thought beyond those
clouds, thinking of this one sweet world spinning around one sweet star in
an otherwise normal spiral galaxy in an otherwise abnormal universe where 
scientists still don't know where %90 percent of the matter is and thought
about how much of an effect i have on it and i felt 




















                                   small.





















but then i started to think about the awareness that my ancestors gained
many millenia ago, and that they slowly passed on to me and here i sit in
a remote corner of northern va typing into a fascinating little box of plastic,
glass, silicon, (sum the two of them up as sand) and metal, minerals what have
you and then thought about my freinds and my non-friends and the collection of
us all here together chatting, discussing, sometimes arguing or flaming,
sometimes just plain scathingly vitrioloing or whatever, but just the same,
thinking about us and why we've collected here to talk about......the dave
matthews band, of all things.

and i thought about what dave mattews does (mattews?) and how he takes language
and thoughts and emotions and and combines it with the physics of lots of
individual inanimate objects vibrating back and forth and back and forth,
whether under the arm of one carter beauford, or upon the tongue of leroi
moore, regardless, it comes together wtih the art of dave's way of molding
language and thoughts and emotions (hey, there's that phrase again) and
produces something in us all that brings us together as people who relate
to each other: happiness.  ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...how mushy is that.

and i thought about how this power and emotion moves us all and moves us
all through mountains and to each other and into the hearts of all ofus
who congregate together to the sounds of this band, or even of any music
that we all enjoy and just listen to for the sake of happiness and love and
peace and virtue and all sorts of other gooey mushy sentinmental words and
thoughts and stuff and figuratively moves the clouds over our heads and
clears the sky up and ....well this is getting too hippy-peace-make-love-not
war-and-fuck-politics-and-just-smoke-a-jimi-thing-and-keep-me-swinging'ish
so i'll get to the point.

i thought about how dave's music was moving those clouds over my head and
how we all move together with dave and his music and all and how we seem
to get along and all and all and all and all and well....

well.
well.

i don't know.

but it made me feel warm and fuzzy inside and i just wanted to share with
you all.  and all.

i guess if we're going to ....well, if _i_'m goint to sit here and and compare
dave to the physics of the worlds weather patterns, kind of gives a whole
new meaning to the song 'one sweet world' doesnt' it.  ?

i had anothe rthought.  but it disappeared.  god forbid me finding any of 
'em in here in this place called my brain. in this place called 'me.'  
a strange place taht scares the shit out of itself every now and then and 
scares the shit out of the people that have the biggest influence on it.


a strange place indeed.
oh well.
i still don't know.

and i quote immanuel kant:
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Stacey A Johnson <johnss7@mail.auburn.edu>
Time/Date: 3:22 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Jackopierce

Sorry about the nonDMB info- to the guy at Northwestern the Jackopierce 
discussion group address is  majordomo@kspace.com
in the body type subscribe jp (your e-mail)
      -Stacey


Posted By: Julie Ann Zwibelman <jaz1@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 4:32 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Blues Trav. NYE tix

Hey all...
	Sorry this really isn't DMB related, but I'm looking to unload 
two tix to Blues Trav on NYE in NYC.  I'll sell for face value, plus I'll 
spin a coupla copies of some dmb bagby's (i'll supply postage and blanks) 
This isn't my email account, if you're interested, email me at 
crf3@acpub.duke.edu  Thanks...
			-Cheri


Posted By: Tom Schwenk <trs9y@sunipc-3.unixlab.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 4:43 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: The WWYS Video and It's Possible Unintended Consequences

The gospel according to AMZENDEL@unca.edu:
-> 
-> If eMpTy Vee get's ahold of it(WWYS VIDEO) and they like it, we could see it
->  played as much
-> as snoop dog.  I am NOT saying that the exposure is all that bad, but its just
-> that mtv seems to exploit the music they play.  True, some of the musicians  on
-> mtv see it as a career and their route to the rich and famous.  I personally
-> don't think that mtv gives any shit about music, the quality of music, the love
-> of music, the passion,  the addiction, the spirituall aspects.  When they hear
-> good music, they hear dollar signs (Ca-chang) and not what it's really all
-> about.
-> 
-> Now, apply this to damaba.  Do you really think they want this to happen?  Do
-> they know that it really could possibly happen?  Do they know how it could
-> affect them, as a band?

	First of all, as much as I dig DMB, the main reason I like them them
	so much, as most of you will agree, is because they're not that
	'poppy'.  That's not the kind of music they play.  You'll never (God
	willing) walk into a club and hear the 'Ants Marching Dance Remix.'
	I doubt if you'll ever even see 12" singles of any of their songs.
	So, although I agree with you that most of MTV as well as the rest
	of the music industry are probably corporate swine, they know what
	they're doing.  If the video gets on the air, it will find its intended
	audience.  And I'm sure the band probably feels the same way.

-> 
-> Maybe they want what I described above to happen, maybe it IS their goal, and
-> if it is, I say More power to 'em.  However, if that's not what they want, they
-> could really be exploited,and not wanted it.
-> 
-> I;m not trying to be "protective" of damaba and say that nobody has the right
-> to listen to them.  I'm sure in a few years most people are age can hear damaba
-> without mtv and without radio stations like 99X in atlanta.
-> 
-> What i really want to see is damaba beat the mtv system!  They can be
-> "successful" without mtv and exploitive radio stations (99x in atl.)
-> 
-> I know this does not directly concern me, but i'm just concerned for the
-> members of damaba.  I think that before they release their video, they should
-> really ask themselves A) What do we want to accomplish with this video?; and
-> B)What may be the consequenses of releasing it?
-> 
-> What do you all think?

	I think:
	A) We want more people to hear our music.
	B) More people will hear their music.


			-later

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     "...You can't have everything.  Where would you put it?..."

						-Steven Wright

Tom Schwenk
trs9y@sunipc-3.unixlab.virginia.edu
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Posted By: "Carrie L. Foster" <fostecl4@wfu.edu>
Time/Date: 4:48 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Wake Forest TREE

Hey! COuld someone tell me where the tapes are on the wait chapel show 
tree? (11/11/94) I'm just wondering since winter break is coming up soon, 
and we'll all be homeward bound..let me know! Thanks, Carrie

		
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Posted By: pwchan@mail.wm.edu (Mahatma Gahndi)
Time/Date: 4:52 PM Friday, Decemebr 9, 1994
Subject: Random Thoughts

I have now been on this net since school began in September and I have some
random thoughts about ways to maybe improve the net, which isn't too bad,
but here goes anyways:

1)  Limit the amount of talking about other bands.  I love new music too
BUT this is the Dave newsgroup and lets leave it at that.  Even more so,
try to limit the amount that you send messages directly to another person
through the net.
2)  Don't reply to every friggin post.  We all get 50 some odd posts a day
and half of them are almost meaningless replies to a random post.
3)  Keep signatures on messages down a bit.  They add much space to
messages, and frankly get annoying some times.
4)  I too am going to Valentine's Day shw in Richmond, but don't you all
think it is a little early to plan your outfits or things in general NOW. 
We do have two months you know.
5)  And, most importantly, try not to be so harsh in flames.  I mean, and I
have said this before, it's called FREEDOM OF SPEACH, look into it.  If you
don't agree with a post, that is fine, but don't whine about it to
everybody else.

Now, on this note, I am going to send in a separate post to cancel the net
until after the holidays.  I hope that no one gets offended by anything I
said.  I will see you all around after break and I hope to get some good
trades of bootlegs going after then...

Paul Chandler


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 5:38 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Rhyme & Reason

Paceing in the dark of your room with a song on repeat helps you learn 
things and discover things.  Earlier in the semester the band's habit's 
were brought up.  It was brought up through the song rhyme and reason.  
People thought it might be about dave's habit's.  well i got a slightly 
diffrent version.  look the words over and listen.  it's not now it's a 
story from start to finish.  ending with the death of the "charecter".  
the person in the song suffers from self loathing (something i knoow a 
bit about).  The end up turning to drugs as a way to get out of the 
reality that they are in.  they end up getting the break they need 
through death.  Trust me i speek from expereince enough self loathing 
will useually involve drug addiction and at the end a premature death 
(this comes from someone who would be a junk addict if he could get it 
and has been suicidal on two occasions the last very close).  weather or 
not the story is dave's story (he's finishing it then writing his future) 
or if it is a freinds or if it is just a story, well, a few select people 
know that one.  just dropping two cents into the pot.

matt

sitting here in the dark with the cd player stuck on #4


Posted By: shaft <KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 5:52 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Christ! Did a cow shit in here!?!

Hey y'all,
	I just picked up a little info on one of MY favorite bands (yes it's
not DMB, but it's exam week and any news is good news).  It seems that the very
fine, the not so famous (yet) Gibb Droll Band has had their second self
produced album, Dharma, reissued by none other than Bama Rags records.  Dave
and Gibb have been friends for many a moon now and have often played venues
together as well as joining in with e: for some monster jams of "Soulfish." So
now that distribution might be a little better more of you will have a chance
to check out this incredible guitarists. As far as V-day, I'll have a deck
wrapped in baby clothes, just roll the stroller up next to the soundboard,
patch in, and burp the "baby" every 45mins or so. My God, it HAS to work!!!
Jeff, you suck for not responding to my messages, no cheese whips for you!
Dusty, have you gotten those tapes yet? They should be coming in any day now.
Let me know how the filler flowed, and kudos (I HATE that word) on the sound
quality, that's a great show you sent! Jason, same applies to you, great
quality!  I never thought I'd get a show from Kansas of all places.  Who woulda
thunk it? Well, my last two days of release before hell are at hand, I must be
off now. Ta!!
								Kev :-Q

"Hey! That girl has a penis on her hand!"
				-Dave

As usual, for your convenience fire, tobacco, burn, inhale, exhale. Repeat as
necessary.


Posted By: fhouse@vt.edu (Fred House)
Time/Date: 8:02 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: I LOST EVERYTHING

        Would anyone who was planing to trade with me please write me 
because I accidentally deleted all of my email.... Thanks a lot

                                                        Bye bye now....(SNL)

                                                                ...Fred House 


Posted By: Roweman <croutons@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Time/Date: 8:13 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: My NYE plans

Hi guys,

I would like your advice and suggestions. I have the oppurtunity to check 
outeither Leftover Salmon or the Hatters on NYE and I've never seen 
either so... what do you guys that have seen both or heard about them 
from good sources think? Any help would be great. Also, is anyone out 
there planning on going to either of these shows? I guess LS is playing 
the Fox in Boulder the 30th and the 31st, but their hotline says 'big 
things' are planned for NYE? Anyone know what this might be???

Cheers,
Justin

| "..old enough to know what's right, but young enough   |       Roweman
|  not to choose it...noble enough to win the world, but |   croutons@leland.
|  weak enough to lose it"                               |     stanford.edu
|                                        -Rush           |On a midnight radio..


Posted By: William Dow <jugular@rhf.bradley.edu>
Time/Date: 9:09 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Re: DMB at northwestern????

hi low-
could the person who wrote a while back keep us posted about the 
possibility of dmb playing at northwestern....that's the first show i've 
heard mentioned that is close enough for me to make it to...hope it works out
(HI TJ)
bill


Posted By: PM3737@ssu.southwest.msus.edu
Time/Date: 9:38 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: Wetlands 8/19/93 setlist?

Does anyone have the setlist to the 8/19/93 DMB show at Wetlands in NY???

Anyone who knows can respond to me personally at "pm3737@ssu.southwest.msus.edu"
Thanks

Brad Kraft


Posted By: MESSIER BRAD ALAN <messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU>
Time/Date: 11:01 PM Friday, December 9, 1994
Subject: top secret

I really don't have much to say, but just wanted to waste a little 
bandwidth.  Finals start at 7:30am, not very happy.  But for all you 
skiers out here in the west, head out to the Butte.  Just got back from 
Crested Butte, skied on 4"inches of fresh powder (fresh tracks) for 
free.  Crested Butte is free untill x-mass, if your near go for it.  Dave 
rules, I think I will listen to him now 8-)  Anyone else stressed out 
about finals take a break and drop me a line.

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:41 AM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: recently & nancies & newsgroups

dancin' nancy says:

>e---------------------------------------------------->
>b---------------------------------------------------->
>g---9-8---7-6---5-3---------------------------------->
>d-------------------------8---10---8-----8---10---8-->
>a--------------------------6/8---/6-------6/8---/6--->
>E---9-7---7-5---5-4-----3/--------------3/----------->
                   ^
               switch those
               (i.e. g string is a 4, E is a 3)
                  
the only serious correction is that.

Oh, and I would tend to play the riff down on the same position you end up
in. but again, that's just me, and i don't really remember how dave does it.

oh, and rick... yeah, newsgroup = downfall of minarets.

nancies verse the way ben plays it

e------------------------------|
B---------------------------2--|
G-----4---4-4-4-6--------3-----|
D------------------------------|
A------------------------------|
E--3----3--------------2-------|

that's just one little thing. dave always changes it yunno.

oh, and i'd venture that it's not a Gmaj7, but a G7 --> F#7.

Ben


just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: Meighan Webber <mwebber@moose.uvm.edu>
Time/Date: 12:58 AM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: Tim Reynolds

Does anybody know what label Tim's disk(s) are on?

Reply to: 	mwebber@moose.uvm.edu

Thanks, 
Dave


Posted By: Tortfeasor <LAW0001@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:12 AM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: A few questions

1) Is the DC show on the 30th sold out?  I remember scary rumors surfaced to
that effect a coupla weeks ago.

2) What is Allgood's phone hotline-  I see that they are playing in Hotlanta
NYE, so surely they must have finished the album and are contemplating hitting
the road again.  Any info would be gobbled up fast!

Thanks and remember the reasonable man, he could cause you a heap o trouble
someday.

Jim


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 9:55 AM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: Knoxville Horde This Year

   This is my plea for the only DMB show I've been to that I don't have:
this year's HORDE in Knoxville at the World's Fair Park.  Also looking for
any solo Dave or Dave and Tim...
or any other damaba to trade over break!

                                M A L A C H I
                        /===========================\
                       / Malachi@Leland.Stanford.edu \
                      /              ***              \
                      \           Jeff Heys           /
                       \         PO Box 4867         /
                        \     Stanford, CA 94309    /
                         \=========================/


Posted By: "not in any hurry to live my life..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:53 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: unintended my ass..............

>What do you all think?
>
weeeeeeeeeeellllllll..........

the first flaw in this post was that you said "what if emptyvee gets
their hands on this video."  and i ask, what other use is there for
a four minute popped up video filmed in the fox?

dave took that raw footage and put it right in the hands of an empty
vee exec, but i'm sure that he looked him square in the eye and said
"fuck off" or some other random dave babble about how much he likes
coffee in an effort to be 

                                                          e
                  t
    s                                         g
                               a
                   r                         n



                                .

your questions are valid questions, but they aren't questions that
aren't molling through everyone's head already.  what's with all the
negatives in that sentence?

relevance?  i dunno?  why did i post this?  i dunno.  but i wanted to
add $.02 and i have this habit of holding my pennies up where everyone
can see them.
>
>

i'm gonna go try and find something useful to say.  maybe have fun with
the guy who says we're too wordy...........he..he..he....
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Thomas Shaffer <tshaffer@camelot.bradley.edu>
Time/Date: 2:13 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: Re: unintended my ass..............

On Sat, 10 Dec 1994, not in any hurry to live my life... wrote:

> >What do you all think?
> >
> weeeeeeeeeeellllllll..........
> 
> the first flaw in this post was that you said "what if emptyvee gets
> their hands on this video."  and i ask, what other use is there for
> a four minute popped up video filmed in the fox?
> 

Bands make promotional videos all the time.  You never see them on MTV.


> dave took that raw footage and put it right in the hands of an empty
> vee exec,...
> 

Maybe.  Maybe not.
We'll have to wait and see.

Geebs


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Jason Thompson )
Time/Date: 2:24 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: The Zygote that will be a song someday...

Okay, so here's some partial lyrics to a song that the band played during
the encore at a recent show in Boulder, CO.  I don't think its a complete
song yet because basically Carter and Stephan just jam on the same riff
over and over, i.e. there is no distinguishable verse or chorus, just
random lyrics.  Most of them thoroughly garbled...

....
....
  blood poor down
now he's leaving
  me by myself

I'm gonna take my time
....
I won't be rushing anywhere
I lost my best friend against the wall yeaterday

Eyes, tears blood red


Talk to me,
I'm beggin...talk to me,
3X

Brother's gone
  Up to heaven
  Maybe down below
Brother's gone
  Lost again
  he's dead
	against the wall...
-----------------------------------------------

It is a pretty tight, quick riff.  And could turn into a very intense song


Take care,
jason


Posted By: jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Jason Thompson )
Time/Date: 2:32 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: Re: unintended my ass..............

> 
> On Sat, 10 Dec 1994, not in any hurry to live my life... wrote:
> 
> > the first flaw in this post was that you said "what if emptyvee gets
> > their hands on this video."  and i ask, what other use is there for
> > a four minute popped up video filmed in the fox?
> > 
> 
> Bands make promotional videos all the time.  You never see them on MTV.
> 
> 
Trust me - this thing will be on Mtv.  They went all out at the filming.  I
mean from like nine in the morning until 8:00 that night.  They even had to
push back the show a few hours, and drop Everything for that night.  This
was a high dollar deal.  

Actually, let me just paraphrase what Dave said during the encore the night
before the shoot:

Well, we don't want you guys to freak out, but we figured that this is such
a nice room (the Fox), that Fuck It, we're going to shoot a video.  Don't
worry its going to be freaky.

Some girl in the crowd: DON'T DO IT

dave: Now, wait a minute, this girl's like freaking out, she's like "Don't
make a video, that'll mean you suck."  (dave with his best hysterical girl
voice)  We just figured we get a video of us playing - since it is what we
do best.

So long,
Jason


Posted By: "Why are we here? Not to live in pain and fear."
Time/Date: 3:43 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: get in line already

hey i was just listen to some tapes and i found an interesting little ditty
that might interest some of you (Rick)

on a vail colorado tape i have after rhyme and reason everyone starts to tune
up a little bit and dave starts to mess around... only he messes around with
the exact lick of get in line and goes "Hey what was that" if anyone has this
tape check it out its pretty cool... try with headphones though cause thats ho
i noticed it..
see ya
rich


Posted By: Todd Beauchamp <toddb@chopin.udel.edu>
Time/Date: 3:45 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: DMB on MTV

Well, I saw a show about Mtv once.  And on it they said that the intended 
audience for the network was 12 year old boys.  Flip it on and it will 
all be revealed.  Nothing against dave, but I was under the impression 
that his fan base was predominantly a college crowd.  Which would mean 
not a lot of dave on Mtv.  Although, the same used to hold true for Live, 
so what do I know?

_______

Todd Beauchamp (toddb@chopin.udel.edu)       
      
Quit School;  make music.
_______                        


Posted By: Jason Steven Kreitzer <kratz@raptor.cs.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 6:04 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 389

Did anyone tape the 11/14/94 show in Indianapolis?  A friend of mine had 
her 21st birthday that night and Dave talked about her for a little bit.  
It would make a nice belated birthday gift if anyone can help me out.  I 
can trade a 1st gen. tape of the show at the ritz in raleigh in 94.  
Thanks for any help,
    Jason Kreitzer


Duke University Durham, N.C. 27708
Internet:	kratz@cs.duke.edu


Posted By: pcharrig@students.wisc.edu (Patrick Harrigan)
Time/Date: 6:57 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: Leftover Salmon

Roweman <croutons@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:

I would like your advice and suggestions. I have the oppurtunity to check
outeither Leftover Salmon or the Hatters on NYE and I've never seen
either so... what do you guys that have seen both or heard about them
from good sources think? Any help would be great. Also, is anyone out
there planning on going to either of these shows? I guess LS is playing
the Fox in Boulder the 30th and the 31st, but their hotline says 'big
things' are planned for NYE? Anyone know what this might be???

Always get your pasta.   See Salmon on NYE? How could you pass it up? For
anyone who has never expereinced Leftover Salmon, e-mail me and we can set
up some kind trades.  I actually have more LoS than DMB, so Maybe we could
help eachother out!
                        ***Kind bud in the closet sure looks good to me,
                           growin off that big ole Pasta tree!
                                                -Leftover Salmon***


Posted By: MESSIER BRAD ALAN <messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:17 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 Dave Tree

Looks like my goal of all tapes being out before X-mass break will not be 
reached 8-(  But all of the upper levels and some of the branches should 
be out before break.  Please get in touch with the people you are getting 
the tape from, or branches with your kids.  We should have enought time 
to figure out trades and blanks and all that, just be sure to exchange 
addresses for where you will be for X-Mass time.  Also phone numbers are 
still a good thing for those without e-mail over break.  I will have the 
tapes out to everyone the DAY I get them, after that it is up to you!  If 
anyone has questions drop me a line.

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: PM3737@ssu.southwest.msus.edu
Time/Date: 9:46 PM Saturday, December 10, 1994
Subject: Trades?

Would anyone care to send me their DMB tape list??
I looking to expand and have many hours of great Phish.

Thanks
Brad Kraft
pm3737@ssu.southwest.msus.edu
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