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December 1117, 1994

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Posted By: Geoffrey Balleisen <gjb@ccnet.com>
Time/Date: 12:44 AM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: Airplay

When I'm not listening to my collection of tapes, I listen to KFOG here 
in the Bay Area.  They play a rather diverse selection of music, and have 
taken to playing HORDE type bands.  Just after UTTAD came out they played 
"What Would You Say" about once a week.  One DJ who played commented 
"They sound so much like Blues Traveler," obviously not knowing Popper 
played on the tune.  Well since they came through last weekend, I've head 
the song about 5 times!  I don't listen to the station more than an hour 
a day (probably less).  In addition, I went to the cd store today and 
they were sold out of the CD!  When I was there last week, they had  
almost ten copies.  I live at least 40 miles from any venue they played. 
Look out folks, I think they're going to get very popular very fast!

Geoff Balleisen				"Five pounds,
	gjb@ccnet.com				six pounds,
		gjballeisen@ucdavis.edu			seven pounds"


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 3:11 AM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: don't look back.. the sky is falling!

I SAW AMISH PEOPLE TODAY!!!!!!!!

i wanted to go home with them. 
sniffle sniffle. 
why why why why?
and it was ssooooooo funny, too.. cause i had cornbread earlier in the day.

I SAW AMISH PEOPLE TODAY!!!!!!!!!
(and i still want to go home with them)

'that's the effects of living backwards,' the Queen said kindly: 'it 
always makes one a little giddy at first-'

love light jubilance and amish simplicity for a simple girl.....
claremily

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'march on. do not tarry. to go forward is to move toward perfection. march on,
  and fear not the thorns or the sharp stones on Life's path.' -kahlil gibran

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
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Posted By: YODEL11@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:54 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: Post message

I'm just joined minarets net and am really excited about it. Before i heard
about this I was trying to trade DMB bootlegs with people on phishnet. but
that did not work out so well. Right now i'm looking for people to trade
tapes with.  I have about 15 shows of DMB but i would like as many as i can
get a hold of. PLEASE WRITE BACK IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TRADING DMB WITH
ME. Either write me personally my user name is {YODEL11} or post a message on
minarets for me. I would greatly appreciate it Thanx again!!


Posted By: V134R9W7@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Time/Date: 5:08 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: a quick thought

It might be a bit premature, but I wanted to tell everyone on the net 
that i hope you all have a great break while I still had the chance.
Also, since I am going to be away from my VAX, I would like to know if 
anyone would keep me up to date as to whats going on with the net (if 
you don't mind calling or writing, which might be cheaper since I live 
in the Bronx). If you would like to help me, just E-mail me. It would 
be greatly appreciated.
                                        george
                               v134r9w7@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu


Posted By: "Robert J. Grundstrom" <grundstr@seas.ucla.edu>
Time/Date: 5:42 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject:

"set minarets mail digest"


Posted By: BOBBSTEPH@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 5:48 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: DMB tapes

This is my first time posting a message here.  I have been a Dave fan for
awhile now, but I have only been to two shows.  I am looking for some quality
tapes from the September 28 (I think) at the Flood Zone in Richmond, VA and
the November 7th or 8th at the Lisner Auditorium in D.C.  I would really like
to get these before Christmas, but I am going home this Saturday, the 17th, and
I won't have access to my computer.  So if anyone who has one or both of these
shows, I ask that you please e-mail me at "bobbsteph@urvax.urich.edu" before
Saturday.  I don't have any DMB to trade, but I would be willing to buy or
trade some of the stuff that I do have.  I know that these tapes are out there
so please help a fellow DMB fan in need!!  Thanks and I hope to hear from
someone soon!!
					Stephen Bobb


Posted By: "Eric J. Edwardson" <eje3u@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 5:49 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: V-day taping

There's no point in a soundboard patch, since a symphony's instruments are
not going to go through one.  Ever seen speakers at such a thing? It's a
rather less technological form. So, start brainstorming on mic hiding, the
baby stroller could be even better that way.

Eric (lurking)


Posted By: Rebecca Levine <reba@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Time/Date: 6:09 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: DMB info.

I'm writing a review of _Under The Table And Dreaming_ for a Wednesday 
deadline, and my editor has misplaced any press/P.R. we recieved on the band.

If you could please send me an FAQ or direct me to an archive site, I'd 
greatly appreciate it.

You can sent stuff to either this address or my more legitimate address 
that follows.

TIA

Catch ya on the rebound, 
	              --Alex
                       (harpua@new-orleans.NeoSoft.com)


Posted By: "Russell M. Greenspan" <rmg@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 6:31 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: 2/15/94 Cat's Cradle Chapel Hill, NC

Does anyone out there have a setlist, or better yet tapes from this 
show?  It was unbelievable and I've been unable to find anyone who taped, 
so any information would be great.

Thanks a bunch,
Russ.


Posted By: Jeff <JPETERS@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:15 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: don't worry aboout MTV!

ok guys and gals,
	I know the MTV thing is a little ominous, but I think I know how it'll
turn out.  WWYS will make it on the air for a few weeks and then whoever puts
together Beavis and Butthead will snag it, the video will play on their
cartoon, the final line will sound..."What Would You Say?" and Beavis will
say... "Heh Heh, I'd say you suck!"  and then all the mindless masses out their
who let their tastes be swayed by two cartoon inbreds will pay it no more
attention and we can have the band back to ourselves!  (heeheehee)

oh yeah, Rick, I understand what you said about two cents, but I don't think
you should hold your penis up where everbody can see it.  does wendy know about
this?   OH! you said "pennies!"  whoops!  :)
	jeff


Posted By: sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Justin Sonfield)
Time/Date: 7:25 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: Re: V-day taping

>There's no point in a soundboard patch, since a symphony's instruments are
>not going to go through one.  Ever seen speakers at such a thing? It's a
>rather less technological form. So, start brainstorming on mic hiding, the
>baby stroller could be even better that way.
>
>Eric (lurking)
Not a flame, but that isnt true.  The instruments are miked with condenser
mikes usually from above.  There are also stage mikes.  These all go
through the board, so a patch will exist, but again, we probably cant use
it.  There are also plenty of speakers.    oh well, sounds fun.  to bad it
is on a tuesday.
Justin Sonfield
S.P.O. 183
735 University Avenue
Sewanee, Tn   37383-1000
(615)-598-2190


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 7:38 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: MTV

Here's my little 2 cents...

Phish made a video for Down With Disease
I never see it aired
As far as I know it wasnt on Beavis and Butthead
They haven't sold out or gone teenybopper
and the main point is THE MUSIC IS STILL GOOD!

well anyway...

late nite jam with dmb and the symphony, my house 2:00 am Feb 14


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Posted By: Erik Hofstede <eahofstede@ucdavis.edu>
Time/Date: 8:02 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: San Juan show/set

DMB on Dec 8 at the Coachhouse in San Juan Capistrano, Ca:

Seek Up
Best of What's Around
Dancing Nancies
Wherehouse
Satellite
Cry Freedom
Rhyme & Reason
Jimi Thing
Tripping Billies
Lover Lay Down
Norwegian Wood -> Recently
#36
Ants Marching
 
encore: Christmas Song
        Tommorrow Goodbye
        True Reflections

The Coachhouse is the worst place that I've ever seen a show.  We had to 
tip the host $20 to sit at the stage, and then asked to sit down when we 
preceded to dance as DMB broke into their set.  Dave even commented on 
the "change" for not having people up and dancing.  The show itself was 
relatively good, yet the band was just not as enthusiastic, as at the 
previous San Francisco show.  This was obviously due to the lack of crowd 
participation.


Posted By: BUARRINGTON@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 8:28 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: 2/15/94 show at Cat's Cradle

I was at this show and tried to tape, but the soundboard guy (Jeff???)
wouldn't let anyone because the board was so shitty.  As far as I know
no tapes exist of this show.  I don't remember the setlist but I do recall
that Dave did some wacky shit (maybe he played wild thing or louie louie, or
maybe I could be making all of this up).  If I am wrong and someone does have
a tape, I would be interested.

--Burt


Posted By: Erik Hofstede <eahofstede@ucdavis.edu>
Time/Date: 8:31 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: Ventura show/set list

DMB on Dec 9 at the Ventura Theater, Ca

Seek Up
Song That Jane Likes
Best of What's Around
Dancing Nancies
Wherehouse
What Would You Say
Satellite
Pay For What You Get
Jimi Thing
Rhyme & Reason
One Sweet World
True Reflections
Recently
#36
Ants Marching

encore: Christmas Song
        All Along the Watchtower

Tonight's show was excellent, and yes dancing was allowed.  
Unfortunately, my four show tour has come to an end and now I must get 
back to studying for my finals. 


Posted By: "Play the game and play it well, when you're good try to lose." <RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 8:43 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: not to start a fight

> >There's no point in a soundboard patch, since a symphony's instruments are
> >not going to go through one.  Ever seen speakers at such a thing? It's a
> >rather less technological form. So, start brainstorming on mic hiding, the
> >baby stroller could be even better that way.
> >
> >Eric (lurking)
> Not a flame, but that isnt true.  The instruments are miked with condenser
> mikes usually from above.  There are also stage mikes.  These all go
> through the board, so a patch will exist, but again, we probably cant use
> it.  There are also plenty of speakers.    oh well, sounds fun.  to bad it


it has been my experience that most symphon....(sp) do not mike at all.. there
are usually 'sound bouncers' thingies on the ceiling that project the sound
towards the back of the arena... also you find at say NSO perfromances there
are no sound guys no sound boards working this may be different v-day cause of
dave but the symp.... will not go through the board at least i don't think so

rich


Posted By: "Troy Pusateri ( swim )" <TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu>
Time/Date: 8:45 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 390

Hey YODELL11,
    Ill trade w/ya...write me back w list...

                                T-ROY


Posted By: TDWALSH@amherst.edu
Time/Date: 10:23 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: nye tape grovel.....

Hi,
	I will not be at the nye concert, and because I am going to Australia
next semester, I will not be able to get a copy of the show for quite
some time (like next fall when I am back on minarets). I was wondering if I
could send blanks to some kind soul out there who is taping the show.
I would also send return postage to my house and then have it forwarded to me
Down Under. If you are willing and able to help me please respond to my
email address. Thanks alot,

Tim
tdwalsh@amherst.edu


Posted By: MLounsbury@aol.com
Time/Date: 10:54 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: please????????????

I just got on minerets today and I don't have any dmb tapes to trade.  If
anyone could please help me by starting off my collection and send me some
copies of their best shows, I have a large variety of other music and would
be willing to send good copies.  If anyone could please help a rookie I would
greatly appreciate anything!!!
Please reply and tell me what kind of tapes you would like and what shows you
could send me to start trading.  My home address is 5455 Lance Dr, Knoxville,
TN 37909.
Please help a rookie.......Thanks Matt Lounsbury


Posted By: "Adam Vann (BK 1995)" <axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Time/Date: 11:24 PM Sunday, December 11, 1994
Subject: 9-1-92, Rusted Root and Vday

1. Anyone waiting for a 9-1-92 tape from me- continue to wait. Sorry. 
I'll try to have some of them out before I leave next friday, otehrwise 
I'll do em as soon as I get back in January- my deck is staying here. 
Once again, sorry.

2. Rusted Root fans- Show tomorrow at Toad's Place in New Haven,CT. 
Essentially free- passes are at Cutler's records and Yorkside Pizza right 
next door on York street. OR you can bring a non- perishable food item. 
You do, however, need a form of ID establishing your age as 21 or more. 
I'll be the guy with the Y95 hat who comes in for about 1/2 hour because 
it's the middle of finals week. Write me and I can give you directions if 
you'd like.

3. Vday trippers- Ben and I are gonna bite the bullet here and get tix. 
If you have a car and want three traveling partners (my girlfriend is 
coming), let me know. I may have a car with which I could pick up anyone 
living near the Jersey Turnpike or 95, but I won't know until I get back 
in January. I saved all your messages, so don't write me- I'll be in touch.

	I've had enough of being alone, but I've got no place to go,
	Adam


Posted By: Jonathan Kaplan <JK1324A@american.edu>
Time/Date: 12:26 AM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: setlist: 11/9/94

I hope this works because this is my first time sending to the .net.
Does anyone have a COMPLETE setlist from 11/9/94? It was at the VA Horse
Center in Lexington, VA.  Also, if possible, I'd really appreciate the list
from 11/8 at Gw in DC. I am not subscribed to the list, so if you could e-mail
me at: jk1324a@american.edu    I would really appreciate it.
                                                Thanx,
                                                      JON


Posted By: William Lippe <lippe@u.washington.edu>
Time/Date: 4:04 AM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: Video, Setlist Grovel, good trade offer

=09I hate to be a groveler, but there=D5s really no other way to do=20
this...  I don=D5t know all the unreleased DMB stuff, and I have dat=D5s of=
=20
11/25/94, 11/26/94, and 11/29/94, all of which have at least one song=20
which I don=D5t know the name of.  These songs either don=D5t have the titl=
e=20
included in the lyrics (intelligble ones), or the song isn=D5t listed=20
anywhere in the info files on the ftp site, and hasn=D5t been mentioned. =
=20
So the setlists would be greatly appreciated for these dates.

=09The video will get airplay, it will be on MTV.  Boyd was very=20
excited about it, and you don=D5t just hire the director of Aliens three to=
=20
make a promo-video.  Evidently it isn=D5t _only_ live stuff.  It includes=
=20
little artsy segments with boxes filled with different things and=20
whatnot.. Am I being vague enough? :)  I=D5m just afraid that I=D5ll never=
=20
see the finished video... I never watch MTV...  The band=D5s perspective=20
differs from ours considerably.  They=D5re excited and happy at the=20
prospect of being respected in the music industry, being able to meet=20
people that they normally just listen to, etc...  don=D5t quote me on this=
=20
stuff, but it=D5s the message I got.

=09I will tape massive amounts of stuff for anyone who wants to=20
trade HQ Dave/Tim shows.  I have some local (Seattle) stuff, including=20
pretty much any Jambay date I want from their vault, Salamander, Ganja=20
Farmers, modest amounts of Phish, and although it=D5s pretty mainstream stu=
ff,
Counting Crows, Blind Melon, Susan Vega, Violent Femmes, and even a GWAR=20
boot... hahaha    they cover "Detroit Rock City" by KISS..  now _that's_=20
trade worthy. :P

=09Last note..  I play a strat, and was just wondering about a=20
couple aspects of Daves stylings(tm), and whatever..  Does he play=20
fingerstyle? Flat pick?  I wasn't close enough to the stage to see any of=
=20
the times I saw them perform live, but I guess from the recordings that=20
he switches between real basic fingerpicking and pick-strumming, with=20
alot of left and right-hand muting.  The reason I came around to that=20
question is the other guitar question, does he get away with murder on=20
the accoustic?  I've never been an acoustic player, other than some basic=
=20
slide blues stuff, so I don't really know....  Everyone I know who plays=20
accoustic say that the Chet Atkins model is a crummy guitar, with even=20
crummier quality control.  Just goes to show how tone and feel are %50 in=
=20
your style.=09Thanks in advance, ERic
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---
I stand amid the roar Of a surf tormented shore, And I hold within my=20
hand Grains of the golden sand- How few! yet how they creep Through my=20
fingers to the deep, While I weep-while I weep! O God! can I not grasp=20
Them with a tighter clasp? -E.A.P.


Posted By: BOBBSTEPH@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 1:39 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: 11/8/94

	Does anybody have a tape of the 11/8/94 DMB show at the Lisner
Auditorium in D.C.?  If anyone does have it, please e-mail me at
"bobbsteph@urvax.urich.edu".  I would appreciate a response as soon as possible
since I will be away from my computer for a month, starting Saturday.  Thanks.

					Stephen


Posted By: PM3737@ssu.southwest.msus.edu
Time/Date: 1:54 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: Dave Trades

Whats the deal.  Does no one want to trade any Dave tapes with me??

I have lots of amazing Phish and am looking to expand my DMB.

Please, someone, send me your DMB lists and Ill make some suggestions

Thanks
Brad Kraft
pm3737@ssu.southwest.msus.edu


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 2:18 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: The Atlanta Show(DEC 27) AND CHARLOTTE (DEC 29)!!!!!!

To all who will be at the atlanta show.
A) We need to finalize the plans for our little "gathering."  What's going on??
B) If anyone wants to make person-to person trades, let me know by tomorrow!
	I Have:
		Trax 10.26.93
			Five dave solos and halloween sends you into orbit
			(1st gen sdb)
		Wake Forest 11.11.94
			Phattest jam of recently i ever heard.  It'll have you 
			jumping around your room in extasy.
                        (1st gen sdb --first min of #36 is screwed up though
			and there's a two second gap in recently.  Otherwise,
			it's great.  A great show.  Jimi is phat too.)
		Athens Feb. 94 (the second night they played there)
			Graves is grreat on this show!
			(2nd gen sdb, flawless, great dave talk--> "We're
			selling a lot of stuff over there. I specified last 
			night that you can wear alot of this stuff while you're
			screwing....")
	Once again, let me know BY TOMORROW if you want to trade any of these
	_AT_ the show!
C)Is anybody planning on taping the show in Atl.????  If so,is it cool if I
	bring blanks and a sase to the show for you????  Malachi, you said you
	know someone who will be taping, can I bring him blanks???
D)Please call me in Atl. on the around 3:00 (on Dec 27) to let me know where
        and when we're
	meeting!!  (404) 587-1393  or e-mail me your local phone number (in
	Atl. and I'll call you!)
E)We're going to jam in 15 days!!!!

Now about the charlotte show (dec 29):
	Will anyone be going to the chatlotte show from Atl.???  I really want
to go.  Alot of my friends from school are going and it will be great.  I don't
have a car, so I was wondering if anyone wants to carpool?  I have a place to
stay for us after the show (in Asheville.)  It'll be fun.  The clock in the car
on the way and on the way back from the show will read 4:20 (if you get me.)

Please respond to this (before Thurs.) is you have any info.

Thanks

alex

Btw, if anyone wants to work out a carpool to the Charlotte show (from Atlanta),
get in touch with me!  I'll be able to get e-mail until Thurs, Dec 15.
>From Dec 16 - Dec 26, you can call me at (704) 859-2045.  Please get in touch
with me if you want to do this!


Posted By: THowl91834@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:22 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: DMB tapes

I am looking trade for any DMB shows. I have two DMB shows: 1 from Oxford,
Miss. and 1 from Tuscaloosa, Al.  They aren't complete and I don't know the
dates but I would like to trade or I can send blanks and postage.  It would
but really cool if your could help me out.  I have some Phish also.

Trey Howland
THow191834@aol.com


Posted By: "Brian J. McClung" <bmcclung@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 4:19 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: X-mas Spirit, please!

I've seen many people do this, and I was always wondering if it worked. . 
.so here it goes.

Seeing as how it is Christmas time and I am a relatively-tapeless newbie, I 
was wondering if anyone out there in Daveland feels like making me a 
whole bunch of tapes (or a few, or one) for little more than postage, 
blank tapes, and a bunch of messages from me telling you how cool you are.

You know, it really isn't that hard to swallow your pride for DMB tapes.

Mainly I lurk on this net, read the wars, and pray for newbie offers.  
But I've learned a lot about the band from watching, so I thought that 
was enough.
Until now.
We all have Christmas break to chill and make tapes, so I thought I'd 
open my big mouth and see what happens.
I will be waiting (with hope in my heart) near my computer.
Thanks for reading this grovel.


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Posted By: "Adam Vann (BK 1995)" <axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Time/Date: 4:23 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: Funny story

This has absolutely nothing to do with DMB, so if you are pressed for 
time, delete and move on. If you want to hear a funny story that will 
convince you that as stressed and ragged as you may be in finals, things 
could be worse, than read on.


Anyway....

A friend of mine was a finalist for the Rhodes scholarship, so he flew to 
Seattle, his hometown, for the state or regional finals, I forget. This 
guy's a true stud- Phi Beta Kappa, Chem. engineering major w Premed 
requirements, varsity athlete, and a hilarious guy. So he's ready to wow 
the interviewer, right?
After waiting outside with the other finalists for a long time, he finlly 
goes in to the interview. The following are just some portions of the 
interview:

Interviewer: Compare the French and American Revolutions.
Friend: Uh, I'm a chemical engineering major.
Interviewer: Do your best.
Friend: Well, all I know about the French revolution is from Mel Brooks' 
History of the World Part I, where the French are revolting because the 
don't have their own language, just a silly accent.

I: Compare Othello and O.J. Simpson
F: Well, they're both black, and they both killed their wives.
I: I take it you think OJ's guilty?
F: For purposes of our conversation, I guess.

I: What do you think of Plato's Republic?
F: (Who gave up a while ago): I liked it, I suppose.

To top this off, he gets on the plane, which is completely full, except 
for his seat assignment. The plane takes off, and as the descent begins, 
the pilot announces the temperature and conditions in Denver. My friend 
is supposed to be flying into Chicago- he's on the wrong plane- which was 
somehow completely filled except for the exact seat assignment he had for 
his real flight. Anyway, four connections later, he was back in New Haven.
Moral of the story: Exams are a pain in the ass, but it could always get 
worse.

	One more final and I'm a second semester senior again!,
	Adam


Posted By: DLALLISON@unca.edu
Time/Date: 6:24 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: trade at atlanta gathering

For all who will be gathering before the Atlanta show on the 27th, e-mail
me back as soon as possible if you are interested in some great trades.
I have an extensive collection of DMB shows.  If interested, e-mail
me back with your list and I'll respond back to you wuth mine.  Hurry!
Im leaving Friday! I need to know what to bring to the gathering!
You will not regret it! I have a lot of high quality shows!
Can't wait to meet everyone! I agree w/ Alex, lets get these plans 
finalized THIS WEEK!  
                     

                   Dusty "Hope to see DMB at the gathering" Allison
                   P.O. Box 36
                   Andrews, North Carolina 28901
                   (704) 321-5056

btw:  FOR TAPE TRADES e-mail back to me quickly at this address:
                                 dlallison@unca.edu


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 6:41 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: D.C. Pseudo-Gathering on 12/30

hey now,
        i will be attending the show at american university, and was hoping
to meet some other netheads. i won't be able to make a formal gathering, but
we could all gather at the will call booth at arounf 7 pm. does that sound 
cool? i hope to see people there.

2 more days till i'm out of contact with minarets. :(

jonathan


Posted By: V134R9W7@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Time/Date: 7:13 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: 8/16/94 set list

Could someone please e-mail me a copy. It was at the Garden State Arts 
Center and was my first DMB show. If anyone has a copy of the show, 
I'd like to trade .
                                       george
                              v134r9w7@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu


Posted By: Frenkel <frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:58 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: undigesting

hey all,
	Can someone please tell me how one to undigestify, if that's a 
word :)  

							Thanks,
							Brian



"T...T...T...Tito's gonna show you, how to get an A"  -Jackson 5


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu (Bruce Ricker 887-6646)
Time/Date: 8:22 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: Re: tour dates?

hi all
 i need info about the tour list. i know atlanta. 27th and orchestra and
what not on the 14th. however i will be up north in new jersey and was
wondering if the boys are playing ny or pa or anywhere up there after next
friday and before the 8th of jan.
     please respond immediately
        thank you
          bruce


Posted By: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)
Time/Date: 8:50 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Andrew Heys)

If you're not going to the show, you can stop reading here.
If you ARE, however, it is ESSENTIAL that you TELL ME if you can make it.
Info:

1) Send me your home phone number, in case everything is still a little bit
up in the air when you leave school.

2) I never got any time suggestions, so we'll meet at the STAGE in Piedmont
Park at 3:00 (a totally arbitrary time, if anyone has conflicts or
suggestions, just tell me).  I only know how to get there from my home in
Chattanooga, TN, so someone PLEASE post directions!!  Does anyone have one
o' them old-timey BOOM-BOXES (the kind that runs on batteries, but you can
hear it w/o headphones)?

3) We'll find somewhere to eat near the Fox about 6:00 (this doesn't
necessarily have to be decided right now).  The Vortex sounds cool, but I'm
still taking suggestions.

4) I guess we might as well go to show sometime.

5) I have no idea about the hotel, contact Alex <AMZENDEL@unca.edu> if
you're interested (either in a room or a party).

6) I'll probably go to the B'ham show (if my friend bought the tickets
yet), and we could caravan if we have enough people.

7) I know someone who MIGHT be taping the show, so if you're at the
gathering, you'll be the first to find out.

8) If you want to trade at the show, get in touch with me as soon as
possible (I leave Thurs.).

9) GET PSYCHED!! Only two more weeks!

                                M A L A C H I
                        /===========================\
                       / Malachi@Leland.Stanford.edu \
                      /              ***              \
                      \           Jeff Heys           /
                       \         PO Box 4867         /
                        \     Stanford, CA 94309    /
                         \=========================/


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:12 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: Re: MTV

'Sweet and sultry like a cherub's bare red ass', Sir Buford says:

>Phish made a video for Down With Disease
>I never see it aired
>As far as I know it wasnt on Beavis and Butthead
>They haven't sold out or gone teenybopper
>and the main point is THE MUSIC IS STILL GOOD!

2 Things:

1) Phish are nowhere near as commercially viable as DMB.  A well recorded
Ants or Satellite from UTTAD would do very well I must say...

2) The DwD video sucked.  Trust me.  I saw it.  I had a tape of it... before
I recorded over it.  From what we've been told, Dave spent money.  Big money.
 Or from what I've been told about how videos work, RCA gives them the money,
and they're expected to pay it back with the money the video brings in... er
something like that.

Anyway, my point is that the phish video was horrible, Dave's video will
probably be right up MTV's alley... 'weird', 'hep to that youngster's taste',
and er 'a good song i guess' (in that order).

gosh the little girl from partyof5 is so cute!

Benji

just another memo from the cellar,

    ************************************************************************
   *      "Be in love with yr life...           * --   Ben Sterling  --   *
  *        Be crazy dumbsaint of the mind"     * --  Nebuious@aol.com -- *
 *                 -Jack Kerouac              *  --   New York, NY  --  *
************************************************************************


Posted By: remember to breathe <BLBLALOC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:30 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: err.

for those of us forced away from internet over break, twould be best to
unsubscribe lest good ole uncle ron kicks me off of his server...
so....
how about somebody posting the address to unsubscribe?  quick, easy, no
hassles....it's better when you don't have to look for it....it's just THERE...
omniscient ex-ta-cee.
ahhhhhh.

and j.  . . . .

interested in going to the beach this weekend?  might be fun. . .
any other takers?

i'm dreaming of a sandy christmas. . .


my e-mail is like tree lights.
one is deleted, they're all deleted...


merry st.patrick's day.

brian.
   -----------------
"without your eyes, a bear never could dwell"


Posted By: Sarah Hall <halls@alleg.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:31 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: Santa's E-Mail Address

Howdy to all you believers!! 

 I got this and it's really sweet...I suggest that you all try this  
as a little pick-me-upper!  And like it says, just write your name  
(first or first and last or whatever)!  I love you all!  Have a safe  
and happy holiday season!

Love,
Sarah


Begin forwarded message:

From: Jennifer Smith <smithj2>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 15:13:37 -0500
To: others:)
Subject: Santa's E-Mail Address

	Hey there guys, I am the e mail goddess of the world and I  
just so happened to come across this little address for St. NIck,  
(what is this world coming to ? ) I have been told that he will send  
a personal response back to each and everyone of us, good or bad : )  
....hey its worth a try!
	And if I dont get a chance to see you all before break , good  
luck with finals! (check your email periodically for study breaks, I  
tend to go crazy while procrastinating on 30 page papers...)  and  
merry merry holidays to you all! see ya in Jan 1995! (eek!)
	
		<santa@reply.net>

	you can send your christmas wish to Santa.  Be sure to put  
your name on the Subject line for a personalized response.


ho ho ho!
smithj2 : )


Posted By: "Catherine E. Hobbs" <chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 10:01 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: Re: tour dates.

here goes ..as far as i know anyways 
(typing out these dates is major procrastination.. but atleast its 
beneficial)

december
12 scottsdale, az/ rockin horse saloon
(602) 949-0992

15 Austin, tx / liberty Lunch
(512) 477-0461

16 houston, tx/ Rockefella's
(713) 861-4977

17 Daallas, tx/ Tree's
(214) 748-5009

27 atlanta, ga / Fox Theatre
(404) 249-6400

28 Birmingham, AL / Boutwell Auditorium
(205) 715-6000

29 Charlotte, NC / Grady Cole Center
(704) 336-2462

30 Washington DC /Bender Arena 
(202) 885-3000

31 Richmond, VA /Richmond Marriott
(804) 971 -4829/(804) 643-3400 (room info)

FEBRUARY
14 RICHMOND VA DMB and THE RICHMOND SYMPHONY
(benefitting the symphony and the Williama Byrd Community House)


*********************
ok ..so most of these are probably already sold out 
but its the msot recent info. i have, and someone asked
also
as always
UPDATES AND CHANGES!
call the tour hotline
(804) 980-9636

goodluck on exams and merry christmas
cathy


Posted By: MLounsbury@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:54 PM Monday, December 12, 1994
Subject: I'm a minarets virgin..help

 I'm new to the server, but not to Dave.  I dont have any shows, but seeing
as how i'm on minarets, I would love to start trading.  If any one could tape
me one or two of their best shows, i would be happy to send postage and
tapes, money or some copies of my other music in grateful return.  Please let
me know if youre willing to help a rookie to become a more loyal DMB fan.
Thanxxx...Matt

MLounsbury@aol.com

Matt Lounsbury
5455 Lance Dr.
Knoxville, TN 37909

P.s. ....I am going out with the "Fire Dancer"..I can get you a date!


Posted By: The Ecolon <WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU>
Time/Date: 1:48 AM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Charlotte Gathering???

    Okay, gang, let's not let Atlanto outdo us!  All those going to 29
Dec show at the Grady Cole Center in Charlotte, let's meet up
somewhere!  How about the Spaghetti Warehouse, the one with all the
old signs in Dilworth area of charlotte not too far from Downtown?
It's got great atmosphere, good food, and one helluva a wine and beer
list, but please don't drink too much and drive, hell, don't drink at
all and drive [ within reason].

    On the charlotte note, does anyone know how tapers should proceed
there.  At clubs, it's relatively easy, just bring in your stuff, and
get the immortal Bagby to plug in those magic wires, and poof, you're
on the board, but 

a) Do we need taper section  seats?  If so, are any left?

b) When can we bring in the stuff?  If we need to bring it in early, 
    like that afternoon, where do we get in, the service entrance? Or
    can we just do the club thing and bring it in an hour early or
    whatever's appropriate....

Please respond to this anyone with info, as I'd like to get my
grubby's on another nice Damaba tape.

    Well, to all, peace, and Happy hannukah, and kick butt on finals,
papers, project, and junk like that, that we'll never use again....,
Will

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
   __  "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies? 
  /  \ ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set
  |e:| you free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  \__/ "I can't believe that we would lie in our grave, wond'ring if we had
        spent our living days well"-Dave Matthews Band:Lie in Our Graves
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: i saw you with a chicken sub in your hair <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:00 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: we're not going to have any clubbing around here...

>    On the charlotte note, does anyone know how tapers should proceed
>there.  At clubs, it's relatively easy, just bring in your stuff, and
>get the immortal Bagby to plug in those magic wires, and poof, you're
>on the board, but 
>
>a) Do we need taper section  seats?  If so, are any left?

no.  there' still not the contingency of tapers for a dave show
that there is for a phish show.  there will probably be roughly
10-15 of you there, but keep in mind that you will all be competing
for a single sbd patch, so bring y-jacks.

bring y-jacks.

BRING Y-JACKS.

also, if at least one person doesn't bring a power strip, alot of
you will be shit out of luck.
>
>b) When can we bring in the stuff?  If we need to bring it in early, 
>    like that afternoon, where do we get in, the service entrance? Or
>    can we just do the club thing and bring it in an hour early or
>    whatever's appropriate....

you won't be allowed inside until doors open, if it's anything like
lexington, which isn't all that bad.  the hords of people don't go
rushing for the obscured veiw from behind a soundboard. :)

so just get there sometime around then...

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: DMB road warrior <jfogelso@emerald.tufts.edu>
Time/Date: 1:02 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Is anyone out there?

I haven't gotten any mail from minarets in two days?  I can't believe 
that nobody has written anything in the past two days, so what's wrong?  
If I'm off, can somebody put me back on. Thanks.
Jen


Posted By: "Russell M. Greenspan" <rmg@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 1:39 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: CAT'S CRADEL 2/15/94 CHAPEL HILL, NC

No, you're not crazy.  Dave did go into Louie, Louie and also maybe Wild 
Thing in the middle of Warehouse during the chorus part, because it's the 
same standard progression as in Louie, Louie and Wild Thing.  So once 
again, and now it's in capital letters, does anyone have a tape of this 
show or a setlist?  Bens, Rick, Clare, others who run this show, nothing?

Thanks for your moment,
Russ.


Posted By: CGL5671@ACS.TAMU.EDU
Time/Date: 1:41 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Do we have eclectic tastes?

 In Sunday's listing for the DMB concert on Friday, they described the music as
 eclectic rock.  Do you all think we are eclectic?  I am just curious.
    
    						Cliff
    						CGL5671@zeus.tamu.edu


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com (MR CLARKE F BROWNE)
Time/Date: 2:16 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: new album

When does his new album come out, and does any one know
whats on it.  Thanks Clarke 


Posted By: Victor Wandres <wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Time/Date: 2:17 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Re: Do we have eclectic tastes?

> 
>    
>  In Sunday's listing for the DMB concert on Friday, they described the music as
>  eclectic rock.  Do you all think we are eclectic?  I am just curious.
>     
>     						Cliff
>     						CGL5671@zeus.tamu.edu
> 

ec-lect-tic (i klek' tik) adj- choosing or making use of what one 
considers the BEST IDEAS in various sources or systems of thought, 
learning, art, music, etc.

I'd say this pretty much describes Dave's band and the audiences who 
chooses to listen to him.

Seeya!
Victor
wandres@tulane.edu


Posted By: Thomas Shaffer <tshaffer@camelot.bradley.edu>
Time/Date: 2:50 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Re: Is anyone out there?

On Tue, 13 Dec 1994, DMB road warrior wrote:

> I haven't gotten any mail from minarets in two days?  I can't believe 
> that nobody has written anything in the past two days, so what's wrong?  
> If I'm off, can somebody put me back on. Thanks.
> Jen
> 

We are all taking finals.  Us are all dooing wel in colege to.

Geebs.


Posted By: Aaron Mitchell Rowe <AROWE@utkvx.utk.edu>
Time/Date: 3:41 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Birmingham info needed

hey all--
anyone out there know if there are still tickets for the show in birmingham
AL the 28th of DEC, and does anyone have the number for ordering tickets
there??
thanks for your time...although "Time is Free"---Col. Bruce, ret.
peace and goodwill towards all....AARON


Posted By: 73KIMBERLING@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 4:15 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: UTTAD weakness

Do you know what I really can't stand about UTTAD?  It's the empty tracks       g
leading up to #34.  Granted, if you're listening to the CD all the way through,
the blank tracks don't cause much of a problem, they just creating a longer than
usual  space between songs.  But if you have a multiple disc CD player and like
to play a bunch of CDs on shuffle mode, it really screws things up.  My par        
to pplayer seems to pick a random disc before picking a song off that disc, so what
happens when the player picks UTTAD, instead of working some Dave into the mix
of songs, I am more likely to get a short track of silence.  I know that this is
not a problem exclusive to DMB.  Many other bands have done this kind of thing
to add bonus tracks, etc.  (Worst offender: Cracker)  I've only been on the net
for about a month, so if this gripe has been beaten to death, I apologize.  Also
if I am really far off base as to how the shuffle function works on my CD        
player, I also apologize.  (No flames please)  Anyway, thanks for allowing me to
gripe.  Back to exams...

- Mike


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 4:30 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: in the spirit of XMas (fwd)

> 
> 
> Thought this might interest you.
> 
> Forward this to anyone you think it would interest.
> 
> 
> Ray
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 12:12:58 -0500 (EST)
> From: Damian M. Sheber <dmsheber@mailbox.syr.edu>
> To: civic-values@civic.net
> Subject: in the spirit of XMas (fwd)
> 
> Dear fellow list members,
> 
> This is just a post that was floating around up on the Syracuse internet 
> community.  Please take it to heart.  Let's do some good.  Happy Holidays.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Damian Sheber
> Syracuse University
> Class of 1997
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Subject: in the spirit of XMas
> 
> Y'all...
> 	since most of ya might not actually be reading any further than 
> this... this message is actually REALLLLLLY nice, warm, and cozy!	
> 		Peace, goodwill, and some sleep.....SAS
> 
> >Want to do a kind thing for some hungry kids this holiday season?
> >If not, press delete now. If you have a heart and a minute, read on.
> >
> >Sun Microsystems is donating $0.10 to a food bank each time an Internet
> >user sends an email msg to any (or all) of the three addresses below:
> >
> >   santa@north.pole.org
> >   elves@north.pole.org
> >   rudolph@north.pole.org
> >
> >Doesn't matter what the msg contains; it could be an empty msg, full of
> >invisible holiday spirit. Pick your favorite and send email there a few
> >times. If *everyone* on the net were to BCC all three addresses with every
> >msg they posted to a list for one day, the counter would top out almost
> >instantly, so this is like a weird and wonderful test of Mass Human
> Kindness.
> >
> >You can do your part to help big fat international corporations make
> >good on their Promises of donations to charities. It only takes 250,000
> >msgs to reach the $25,000 Sun promised to donate to a Bay Area food bank
> >for homeless families. Other corporations are donating to selected causes,
> >including a banking firm in Washington DC that will donate up to $5,000 to
> >the Chesapeake Wildlife Heritage (only 50,000 msgs...li'l baby
> >birdies...furry baby rabbits... c'MON now! :)
> >
> >Other corporations are participating too: any firms wishing to add matching
> >funds should contact Luther Brown at <elfmaster@north.pole.org>. The
> >announcement's in the Dec 94 Advanced Systems magazine (pg 22). Who knows,
> >someday you might see companies all across the globe donating part of their
> >obscene profits to children's charities in Sarajevo, San Francisco, Manila,
> >Mogadishu, Bombay, Moscow, Port-au-Prince, Bucharest, Shanghai, Rio de
> >Janeiro... everywhere Santa stops in.
> >
> >Remember: any user can send multiple msgs, so please be counted at least
> >_once_, OK? There are not many such opportunities to directly affect
> >something with your computer, and it doesn't take the Compassion of
> >Siddhartha to see what's good about putting food in the mouths of little
> >children with no home, wherever they are.
> >
> >  "So this is Christmas,
> >   And what have you done?..."
> >                  -John Lennon
> >
> 
> 
> 
> - ------- End of Forwarded Message
> 
> 
> ------- End of Forwarded Message
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Posted By: Shmogger@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:46 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Widespread Panic Interview

Hi folks!  I will be interviewing John Bell, the lead singer of Widespread
Panic, on Thursday afternoon.  I would be psyched to receive any and all
questions that you have for him.  Please respond now, as I will only be able
to gather email until Wednesday morning.  Thanks!

:-Dan


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 4:57 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>

On Tue, 13 Dec 1994 73KIMBERLING@CUA.EDU wrote:
> to add bonus tracks, etc.  (Worst offender: Cracker)  I've only been on 
the net
I'd have to say the worst offended is NIN Broken EP, tracks 7-97 blank. 
But a great disc IMHO


> if I am really far off base as to how the shuffle function works on my 
CD        
shuffle/random is actually an ironic concept on  a cd player. When your 
player picks the same disc alot and never picks another, its actually 
functioning as truly random. We want to hear a bunch of random songs, but 
the discs to be picked at some kind of frequency, so we get a disc 1 
every so often a disc 2 every so often, etc. which is truly random, but 
more like what we want to hear....
p.s. my technical director in high school explained this to me so if 
someone actually knows a technical explaination go for it..
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu             	P.O.Box 322			|
|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
|									|
|	http://liberty.uc.wlu.edu/~cbuford/Boofy.html			|
|v4.2									|
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


Posted By: Todd Shalom <tshalom@acs.bu.edu>
Time/Date: 4:59 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: 10/08/94 Avalon in Boston

Does anyone have a copy of 10/8/94 at Avalon in Boston that they are 
willing to trade?  I went to that show am I would love a copy.  I have 
some DMB and BT if anyone is interested.
Please respond
thanks a lot

Todd
tshalom@bu.edu


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:05 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Oh BOOOYYYY...

hey all.

 this santa e-mail thing we got is pretty cool. i just spent about ten
dollars of a company's money to feed children and all i had to do was
type "hello santa" a few times... 
               ...start typing fellow Minaretter Netter Headers.
 
  Dave would....

                  Peacetoallye'wholoveallcreaturesequally,
                             CHA * *
                                 \_/


Posted By: Victor Wandres <wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu>
Time/Date: 5:05 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Re: UTTAD weakness

> usual  space between songs.  But if you have a multiple disc CD player and like
> to play a bunch of CDs on shuffle mode, it really screws things up.  My par        


Kinda makes you miss the days of vinyl, don't it.



I also find this the be true. Although I am not lucky enough to have a
multiple disc changer, the shuffle mode always has long blanks in it. 
But, the effect of having the song title on the disc player is sorta neat. 

victor
-------------------------------
wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
-------------------------------


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:28 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject:

hey all.

speaking of dead space on records....i just bought one of John Cage's
records called "4minutes 23 seconds" and there's nothing on it...!!!
...anyone?

               jesting from the halls of music history class,

                               CHA * *
                                   \_/


Posted By: "Brian J. McClung" <bmcclung@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:39 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Re: new album

On Tue, 13 Dec 1994, MR CLARKE F BROWNE wrote:

> When does his new album come out, and does any one know
> whats on it.  Thanks Clarke 
> 

What?  Whose new album?  Oh, HIS new album.  And what's on IT?
Anyone understand?

Speaking of albums. . .has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, they 
might put a CD out with this Richmond Symphony show on it.  If the concert
is basically a benefit for a charity and the Symphony they could raise a 
lot more money that way.  Then Buford wouldn't have to run wires up and 
down his body to sneak in a mic. . .cause we could all just buy the CD.
But you never know. 

Busy doing nothing.
Exams are THIS week?!?!

Have fun and Merry Christmas.


Posted By: "SHUT UP! i'm thinking..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 5:49 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: pennies. dammit. PENNIES!!!!

>Do you know what I really can't stand about UTTAD?  It's the empty tracks
>leading up to #34.  
>- Mike

well, it hasn't been beaten to death.  it hasn't been talked about.  
in fact, i think your the only person who noticed.  

[flame mode on]
i think it's a stupid gripe
[flame mode off]


weird.  honestly, i'm not in a bad mood today.  i just got back a 
97 in anth 355.  i should be running around hugging everyone, and
clare, too.

i'm in a good mood.  maybe it's bringing my bluntness out.  maybe this
should have been sent to him personally.  oh well, too late now...
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu (Bruce Ricker 887-6646)
Time/Date: 5:50 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: RUSTED ROOT / DMB

hi
i am in desparate need of rr boots as well as dmb. my family would like
some xmas tapes, my bro and sis are finally getting a clue
                       email me directly if you can tape for
                       me over the holidays
                                 will send:
                                            blanks
                                            postage
                                            funstuff!
                             happy warm holiday fuzzies to all
                                   - bruce


Posted By: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 6:27 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: yipeee

finals are over (sort of) -- of course, i still have the second part of my
  CHS-680 exam on fri, but I don't think ill study for it anymore -- im getting
  sick of studying.

sooo....
two things--- one is that i will post something later about a raredavetree
  and bham gathering etc etc etc.......i can't do it here b/c i already said
  only two things....

which leads me to the other thing,
which is this:

    whoever asked about the bham tix -- at last check (sun) they had _plenty_
 left.
    so go get one!  everyone, go now

or call

the number is 1-800-277-1700
which is the Alabama TicketLink -- services bham -- show is at boutwell
   auditorium.  know that, since the only way ticketlink seems to know anything
   about any show is if you tell them where it is.  Price: $16.50 + some
   arbitrary fees.

                                       keith


"please do not change colour while
 I am talking to you"
      --- MC 900 Ft. Jesus


Posted By: MESSIER BRAD ALAN <messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU>
Time/Date: 6:51 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: V-Day tapeing

Are we not taking this taping thing a little far?  Getting hot Dave tapes 
form the board or otherwise is not a right we have, it is a privelege.  
Stealth taping is not a thing that should be done at a show, that's how 
we lose the privelege to get ANY tapes.  And i don't think any of us want 
that.  I would immagine someone close to the band or management reads 
minatets occasionally, what would they think if they see all this stealth 
taping stuff?  Of course I would LOVE to get a copy of this show, and as 
long as we don't abuse our privelege to tapes I think we will get one.

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: Gavin Leo-Rhynie <rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com>
Time/Date: 7:05 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Road Trip!!!

This is for any DMB fans in the NYC area - 

A friend and I are planning on renting a car, driving down to DC on the Friday
night,
seeing the show, and driving back up on Saturday ( a Drive Down, Drive Up kind
o' thing :) ).

So... if there is anyone who is interested in making a little road trip, meeting
some other netters, and seeing
the band, we're looking for 2-3 people to come with us and possibly share some
of the costs.

If you're interested, please drop one of us a line and let us know.

Gavin - rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com
Marianne - mfb14@columbia.edu

Peace

Gavin


Posted By: "SHUT UP! i'm thinking..." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:22 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: ALL RIGHT. STOP. HE DIDN'T MEAN IT!!!!!!

>When does his new album come out, and does any one know
>whats on it.  Thanks Clarke 
>
alright, so he fell asleep in bed with a lit cigarette in his hand.
let's be easy on him.  maybe they don't sell under the table and 
dreaming where he's from, so i don't want to see any "where have
you been for the last two months" posts.

and no, i'm not chastising him.  i'm actually chastising all of
you who are just dying to captialize on this opportunity to flame,
because we all saw what happened to carly.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
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Posted By: Jeff <JPETERS@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:23 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Carter makes the rounds

	how many people out there got the AWARE newsletter?  I just got mine
and there's a little paragraph about groups who've been on the two discs and
what they're doing now.  It says that Vertical Horizon has an album coming out
in Janurary and Carter plays the drums on it.  Where do they get the time?!!


Posted By: "Tom L. Wallace" <tomwa@jsbus.com>
Time/Date: 7:23 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: #34 track name

>Do you know what I really can't stand about UTTAD?  It's the 
empty tracks
>leading up to #34.                                               
        
>- Mike                                                           
        

I thought that nameing the track #34 for the song 34 was totally
cool.  I noticed in my car deck and thought that the deck was 
screwing up (it does, often). When I realised what was going on I 
thought that it was  a clever, creative use of technology.

My 2 cents for today ...\


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Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 8:28 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: please stop loving me.. i am none of these things

On Tue, 13 Dec 1994, MESSIER BRAD ALAN wrote:

> Are we not taking this taping thing a little far?  Getting hot Dave tapes 
> form the board or otherwise is not a right we have, it is a privelege.  
> Stealth taping is not a thing that should be done at a show, that's how 
> we lose the privelege to get ANY tapes.  And i don't think any of us want 
> that.  I would immagine someone close to the band or management reads 
> minatets occasionally, what would they think if they see all this stealth 
> taping stuff?  Of course I would LOVE to get a copy of this show, and as 
> long as we don't abuse our privelege to tapes I think we will get one.
> 
> Peace & Out...
> 
> Japhy

ah ha ha...  i chuckle kind sir. i must be one of whom you speak of in 
the above paragraph. 

yes.. management does have access to this net. 
and yes, people close to the band have access to this net (identities 
  kept under all wraps, of course) i mean.. how do all of you know that i 
  _am_ who you think i am? really? 

so.. that means.. that they are reading all this stuff and sitting back 
and laughing at the 'stealth taping' jokes that we have posted. HARK!! 
what was that word i just used... could it be? 'joke'? why yes! it was... 
i did not try to lead myself on a strayed path..... i did say 'joke'. 
(do you really think i'd put a pair of mic's down the top of my strapless 
formal? you surely jest. do you really think i'd allow myself to be seen 
with buford if he had this huge bulge in his pants? (the DAT being the 
bulge, i mean.. now now. you dirty minded-kiddies. slap slap on the wrists.)

anyway.. the point of this all is that we are being jubilant and fun by 
thinking up creative ideas to tape the show. this doesn't mean we're 
actually planning on doing that very thing. besides... if we WERE (sly 
look on clare's face....) why would we tell you all our undercover 
methods in public in such a way as this forum? 
never underestimate the power of a woman. 

what? did you say clutchbag/DAT, pearl necklace mics? what? is that what 
you said? cigarettes/tapedeck, tube-of-lipstick/mics? what? 
i must have heard you all wrong.. must've...[wink]

[deep bellowing laughter......]

the spooning will most certainly resume after exams. we all deserve lots 
of cuddles and warmth from those we love... 
*spoon* *spoon* *spoon* [the chants arise from the bowels of the earth]
clare 'undercover' emily

kev-q... smoking is most certainly expected of you in my messages.

*******************************************************************************
'the ocean doesn't want me today, but i'll be back tomorrow to play. i'll go in 
up to here, it can't possibly hurt. all they will find is my beer and my shirt.
  the rip tide is raging the life guard is away, but the ocean doesn't want me 
         today... the ocean doesn't want me today....'  -tom waits

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: NEAL KAISER <icculus@student.umass.edu>
Time/Date: 8:38 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Max Pts. Wanted

Hey,
	I am about to send in my max points and I only need a few more, well
a little more than a few, to get the headphones.  If anyone out there has any
that they aren't gonna use, I'd be willing to make you some tapes or whatever.
I've got a whole bunch of Dave, Allmans, Hatters, Phish, ARU, etc.  Write me
if interested.
Neal
icculus@student.umass.edu


Posted By: NAME <SRH1111@delphi.com>
Time/Date: 8:46 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: 2-14-95

Hey!  To whom it may concern...I just ordered davetickets tonight (12/13/93)
at approx. 8:20 PM and got the best seats available...middle of the 2nd 
deck!!  Never been there.  Will we be able to see anything??  Hope so.
Actually, just glad they're not sold out yet.  Order your tickets soon
or you'll be on the outside looking in come cupid day!!

.....just a quick note.......Steve   (SRH1111@delphi.com)


Posted By: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 8:55 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: identity crisis

on Tue., 13 December 1994, 20:39:19, clare emily said:
>i mean.. how do all of you know that i   _am_ who you think i am?
>really?
   who are we supposed to think you are?  Why, the elusive spooning and
   peaceful netgoddess herself, of course.....not that clareemily person.......
..but the other person....the one with wires in her formal.......*not* mics,
but WIRES.   .....---------just arbitrary wires-----everything is going to be
ok......im not picking on japhy...but were all cool like fonzie................
..chillin',.......with our free _meaningless_ wired that were handed out at the
gathering........it's cool, my friend

                                                  keith

"please do not change colour while
 I am talking to you"
      --- MC 900 Ft. Jesus


Posted By: Timothy Ry Dudderar <62920@strauss.udel.edu>
Time/Date: 9:33 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: mtv

  I'm kind of getting tired of reading all of your messages about your 
disappointment in DMB making a video.  What's the big deal?  You people 
have to stop thinking that all of your music "heroes" are in the business 
for anything but money.  DMB is no exception.  Personally, I have never 
bought a CD from a band other than Dave Matthew's that had an additional 
insert hawking merchandise
with the band logo on it.  Why does it surprise you that Dave wants to 
get popular and go for the big money?  I don't really see anything wrong 
with it.  No more wrong than Eddie Vedder pretending to be so upset at 
being popular.  If he hates it so much then why doesn't he quit?  Also, I 
don't get the anger (though hidden) at the band becoming so popular.  
What makes you any better than any other fan that was not lucky enough to 
hear the DMB when their career was just beginning?  It seems that you who 
are so weary of greed are guilty of it yourselves.  Anyway, I suppose 
that I will not be very popular from now on.


Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 10:08 PM Tuesday, Decemeber 13, 1994
Subject: Jan dates?

Queen Jenny and I are once again on the hunt to see a few DMB shows 
seeing as we haven't seen him in almost a month...Could someone tell me 
if there are any shows between Jan 4 and 14th...Any help would be greatly 
welcomed - It's kinda a christmas thing.

sean

ps - we may try our hand at Blue Water in the coming weeks - and my band 
is making a small quasi-demo mix, mostly live stuff, but if any of you 
might like a copy to apise me, mail either me or Cory Rayborn 
(car3@acpub.duke.edu) and we will work something out.  No charge, but 
trades would be great!  

                -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu (Bruce Ricker 887-6646)
Time/Date: 10:25 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: archive, faq, etc.

how do i recieve this fun stuff, and can i interact with y'all and recieve
the messages as they come in?  phish archives goes through brown u and i
don't have a pw or login there, so what's the deal?


Posted By: bricker@acme.highpoint.edu (Bruce Ricker 887-6646)
Time/Date: 10:55 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: conversation

thanks keith


Posted By: abaraff@MACALSTR.EDU (Aaron Baraff)
Time/Date: 11:05 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Tapes of Dave/Tim 8/?/94 Birchmere?

Dear Minarets,
        I'm wondering if anyone out there taped (or has a tape of) the Dave
and Tim show from this past August at the Birchmere in Alexandria,
Virginia.  I'm not sure of the exact day of the show, but this was my
sister's first time seeing Dave (in any form) and it led to her current
Dave addiction.  I'd love to be able to present that tape to her with the
ticket I got her for 12/30 for x-mas if it's humanly possible.  If anybody
out there has a tape of it and could help me out (even if it would be after
the holidays), that would be truly amazing.  I've only got 10 Dave tapes to
offer as trades, but I've also got about 100 hours of Phish (including
Richmond from this summer, both Patriot Center shows {very HQ}, and
Halloween.)  I would also be willing to send blanks and return postage.
Any help would be quite appreciated.
                                Thank you for the bandwidth,
                                                Aaron.

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* "See What?" -Page McConnell 4/23/93 * Macalester College         *
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Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 11:17 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: Re: mtv

On Tue, 13 Dec 1994, Timothy Ry Dudderar wrote:

>   I'm kind of getting tired of reading all of your messages about your 
> disappointment in DMB making a video.  What's the big deal?  You people 

I'm not upset he made a video, I just hope its not ungodly overplayed. 
Eitehr way, if it gets people to like him and stay hooked, all the better.

> have to stop thinking that all of your music "heroes" are in the business 
> for anything but money.  DMB is no exception.  Personally, I have never 

I dont think they started for the money, obviously because it took them 
so long to make it. They enjoy playing, or they wouldnt tour nonstop. 
Peter left because he was unhappy, not broke.

> bought a CD from a band other than Dave Matthew's that had an additional 
> insert hawking merchandise with the band logo on it.

Good point but...look at all the Dead merchadise they sell, people make 
businesses out of it. The dead dont need the ca$h, but they know the fans 
with think its cool shit. Like the tobaggan hat, it rocks...

  Why does it surprise you that Dave wants to 
> get popular

this doesn't

 and go for the big money?

Sounds like he's playing the lotto or something (no whammy, no whammy)

  I don't really see anything wrong 
> with it.  No more wrong than Eddie Vedder pretending to be so upset at 
> being popular.  If he hates it so much then why doesn't he quit?  

I wont touch this, this could start big wars...

> What makes you any better than any other fan that was not lucky enough to 
> hear the DMB when their career was just beginning?  It seems that you who 

we're dont think we're better, just lucky, and we get reminiscent at 
times. I would still much rather catch dave at flood zone for five bucks 
every wednesday nite and get killer tapes each time. I know its never 
gonna happen again, I just like to reminisce. I'm happy alot of people 
like him, at least now when I say "Carter is the shit!" my friends know 
what I am talking about. 

> are so weary of greed are guilty of it yourselves.

Im not weary of greed, i admit i have it. Yes I want a DAT, yes a want a 
sweet car, yes I want bose speakers....
I just dont want greed to change the music...and I don't think Dave will 
let it...

  Anyway, I suppose 
> that I will not be very popular from now on.
> 
We'll forget who wrote in in a few weeks if not sooner. everyone has the 
right to express their opinions...
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Posted By: Shawn Peters <gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
Time/Date: 11:25 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: catalog?

On the subject of commercialization...
     The other day a met a guy (not from the mid-Atlantic region and not
previously familiar with the band) who had just bought the new disk.  As it
turns out, he was extremely turned off by the inclusion of the merchandise
catalog.  This made a big impact on the way he viewed their music, and is not
really suprising considering it is their first big-label release.  
     I think we all realize that such a thing should not completely sway
someone, but you have to admit that he did have a point...
Just a thought.


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 11:34 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: sleepy poke me eyes out in the middle of the dancing in the streets...

it's 11:20.  and i'm tired.  i'm tired of being awake, so i should 
probably be asleep.  but that's beside the point.  what point?  big
egg.

and i'm tired of people being tired.  i'm tired of talking and told
to stop talking and talk talk.  discussion is the long word.  open
is the key word.  and anastasiosososososososos is the key name.  he
is the keymaster, whoever he is.


you know, it's a bad thing to be this tired when you plan on staying
up until 6am playing dave matthews for anyone who wants to listen.

granted, you have to live in harrisonburg to listen.  but if you do,
then listen.  it should be fun.  i found lots of neat dave talk.  i'm
not tired of dave talk.  just talking.

call me if you feel inclined.  568-3425.  i'll be on from about 12:30
until 6am.  and i'll be tired.  

and also, taping valentine's day won't be a problem.  i've already
got copies.  let's tree them.  maybe bush them.  or just a creeping
vine all over the net that holds them up.  they be hot copies, too.

hot potatoes.  tomatoes.  grottoes.  grow toenails.  

nails.


i'm tired....

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
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Posted By: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 11:41 PM Tuesday, December 13, 1994
Subject: rare dave tree

ok-----  most of you know the story.  ,,,,,,,,,for those of you that don't ----
real quick:  Chris Buford is making a tape of rare dave stuff.  I'm treeing it.
not too confusing, huh?

so here's rest of the story, just in case you forgot, or didn't know in the
first place, or whatever.   boofy is going to do this after break, but since
he already okayed a tree of it, I am going to try to get a head start on the
forms, since I know there will be a lot of em.  if you don't want to fuck with
this now, then dont-- it will be posted a couple of times after the break.
I'll do it more than once since I don't know when everyone comes back from
break, and we don't want anyone to miss out on it.

I don't know (at this time) how many tapes or what kind or anything else
because the tape(s) is/are not in existance yet. So we'll just have to hope
that he doesn't get bored over break and fill up 75 tapes, rendering all of
us penniless for the semester........     as for the form, it is a basic one
(well, basic enough, anyway).  just cut it out or copy it, or whatever,
and send it to me  <koliver1@ua1vm.ua.edu> .  Now, obviously, for a tree with
all of dave's rareties, many people will be interested.  So, one big thing
I ask of all of you, is that you don't post the forms to minarets.  That would
be incredibly irritating.  If you have some sort of problem with my address,
then reply to this message, but I would prefer if you cut the form out.

for those who offered help (dusty, kev, doug, greg, and everyone else) I will
 contact you in a few days ...or tomorrow.....or sometime.  thanks!!

oh, and also -- indicate whether you want this tape on metal tapes or not --
  I think we could work out a way to make a metal branch if enough people are
  interested.  I have the capabilities to make that happen.  And if anyone
  wants it on dat, then cool -- indicate that too.

and the other thing is this:  everyone owes boofy a biiiig thanks, or net.hug
or whatever you want to give him, for making this tape.  As he said, he will
try to cover all the bases, which will undoubtedly take a lot of effort.  But
 everyone -- please DO NOT send him personal messages.  He would get like
 500 messages saying "thanks, man" -- and he would probably have a heart
 attack, and kill me in richmond in feb.  We definately don't want that.
So thank him in your head, or write him a nice post card, or pat him on the
head, or something.  dont flood his box, just because I said to say thanks.

here's the form:

===========================================================================
Name:
Snail address and phone for the spring:




Email address:

DAT, Metal, or High bias:

branch or leaf:
if branch -- how many copies are you willing to spin?:
if branch -- describe taping equipment:


what was your favourite dmb show:
if you have never seen dmb, then describe your pets:
if you don't know what dmb means, then enter your age here:


additional comments:



=====================================================================
                           (cut here)


  I will mail those people who offered help tomorrow (i have to be at work
    at 11:00 and its 10:35 now.)

for the # of tapes willing to spin, give me a range, since we don't know how
many tapes it will be, yet.

I will post the results of the poll as well.

any questions or whatever and all forms to koliver1@ua1vm.ua.edu

ok......go
                            keith


"please do not change colour while
 I am talking to you"
      --- MC 900 Ft. Jesus


Posted By: "Sanford A. Fine" <saf1@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 1:18 AM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Dec. 30 show

there will be a minarets net gathering before the show at Bender at 7:00 
at the will call, some people are bringing tapes to trade, sell, give 
away so do what you have to do.

clare (undercover) emily may be there with a DAT deck in her strapless 
dress, so everyone be on the lookout for that!

"I was foggy, rather groggy..."

sf
i love clare and so does johnfro
Nebulous Ben is the lord of the cellar


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 1:32 AM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Dave rarities tape update..

On Tue, 13 Dec 1994, keith wrote:

> 
> I don't know (at this time) how many tapes or what kind or anything else
> because the tape(s) is/are not in existance yet. So we'll just have to hope
> that he doesn't get bored over break and fill up 75 tapes, rendering all of
> us penniless for the semester........     as for the form, it is a basic one

Here's my current plan. After rounding off my collection of about 50 
tapes I and listend to lots of them during exams, I realized that this is 
gonna be more than one tape, but not 75...hehe

I want to compile a rarities and best of kinda tape. So while One Sweet 
World might not be rare, I will put my fav old version with peter on this 
tape. Also I am planning to have duplicate versions of songs. The 
setlists on the two tapes might even look identical. Reasons:
1)drive in, drive out is so rare i feel compelled to put a solo and band 
version on this tape.
2)the gnarly warehouse jam from election nite and the funky intro 
warehouse from 7-14-93 are both one of a kind.
3)phish/dmb watchtower ...nuff said, but you have to hear 10-27-92 with 
dave talking and singing about dope in amsterdam
4)you get the point, i dont want to give away everything...

oh yeah, there will be an Ants on this, its a beautiful version...

Be forewarned. the quality will have its large variations. My 4th gen one 
of a kind version of #34 will not sound as clear as my master of Granny, 
but hey, its worth it. Some sacrifices have to be made.

I plan to use Maxell XL II 's. I like em, and I can charge em home...(shh 
dont tell my parents)

I will also use my ungodly computer talents to type up a tape cover on 
microsoft word, listing each date and venue and maybe a reason why I put 
it on the tape (in small font). I will xerox a bunch to send to keith 
with his tapes. I'm assuming as you all tree, you can xerox also. I dont 
want this to end up being labled as some random incredible show in a year 
or something (i also want my name to pop up in everyones tape case hehe :-))
> > 
> and the other thing is this:  everyone owes boofy a biiiig thanks, or net.hug
awww i feel so good now...
Money and New Year's tickets can be sent to below address hehehe
Anyone wanna take me to Atlanta from Richmond on dec 26 to see DMB and my 
girlfriend on the 27th...  :-)
puuleeeeze!!!
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Posted By: DMB and Samples Fan! <lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:17 AM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Mike in CO...

	Just thought that i'd let everyone know that when i turned on the 
radio tonight (which is not often) they were playing "The Best of What's 
Around"........i just thought that was cool....that's the first time i've 
heard them being played on the radio here in colorado...anyhow, if there 
are any DMB Minarets that like the Samples, and live in Colorado, or will 
be in colorado in January, the Samples will be playing at the Snowmass 
Conference Center on January 5th....now, my dad sells tickets at his 
store, so i could probably put a couple of you on the guest list, if you 
would like to........anyways......have a good break all!!  The snow is 
pouring out today (like 8 inches tonight!)  .....later

				DMB & Samples fan,

					Mike


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 3:02 AM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Listen to old dave to cheer you up..

I just had a pleasant experience of listening to some old dave, including 
a show I was at, and it cheered me up quite well.....
lots of it will appear on the rarities..

its 3 am and I am going nuts..



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Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 4:30 AM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: all hail boofy and bow down before his greatness

>  wants it on dat, then cool -- indicate that too.
>
>and the other thing is this:  everyone owes boofy a biiiig thanks, or net.hug
>or whatever you want to give him, for making this tape.  As he said, he will
>try to cover all the bases, which will undoubtedly take a lot of effort.  But

no.  you must bow down in reverence, after all, he is the only net knight
as of so far.  therefore he is more or less queen (but he still owes
defference to clare).


4:21 am and still going strong.  hee hee.

to quote the immortal marc balgavy, wxjm historian:  "caffeine is a drug".



and a damn fun one, too..............



oooooooh, look at the pretty colors....
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: gottlieb@bu4090.barry.edu
Time/Date: 9:43 AM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Video killed the radio star?

Gee, I thought everyone was looking forward to the video.  With all
of these ramifications, it sounds like there is someone's soul
involved.  Justahumbleopinion...

Sincerely, Truly, etc.,

Adam


"It's green for go for the people in the know, but for the others
 all it says is red for stop"--The Beautiful South


Posted By: "Adam Vann (BK 1995)" <axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Time/Date: 11:45 AM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: $.10 to charity

Hey-

Whoever posted that thing about the dime to charity if you send email to 
some address please forward that to me. My inbox got wiped out, and I'd 
like to circulate it around these parts. Appreciate it.
			
				-Adam


Posted By: Emiliy Lash <elash@gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
Time/Date: 12:09 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject:

Does anyone have a Boyd Tinsley Band recording? what is it listed under 
and how do I obtain one? 


Posted By: ARODNITZKY@WESLEYAN.BITNET
Time/Date: 12:32 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: John Cage....Yeahhhh

WOW!
        Well, I've been lurking around here for a while, and I finally get
a chance to post!  To whoever was talking about John Cage, yeah, he does
some wacked out sh*t!  The piece you got is actually called
4'33", nothing but silence, but if you see it performed "live", then the
structure of the piece just has the pianist open and close the keyboard silently
at VERY specific points.  Crazy.
 
ANYway-  Now I will post something relavent to Dave...
        Does anyone know if Dave has ever done many shows around the midwest....
   I've
seen him here on the East Coast (Pearl Street in Northampton), but all of
my friends who go to college in the midwest have only gotten a chance to
see Dave maybe once...anyone know if he goes into that area often?
 
 
                        AdamANYWY


Posted By: 6705625@sunybroome.edu
Time/Date: 1:00 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: lost

Sorry to take up this space but I need to try and find a fellow minareter.
I can't get in touch with jcdavis@wam.umd.edu "Jeremy Davis", so if this
is him or you have talked to him recently, please contact me and let
me know. It would be greatly appreciated. I might as well post that I
am looking for some trades. I got DMB and ROOT to trade. Will be here over
break.

                                   Thanks--Heavy Head


Posted By: telvis@acs.bu.edu
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Seeking Info on Rusted Root

Hi,

	I haven't heard much Rusted Root and was wondering if anyone had any
info to share about this band's musical style or any other interesting history
about them.

Any and all info would be appreciated.  Please email me
directly(telvis@acs.bu.edu) 

Thanks in advance,

Dave


Posted By: Dan Ceaser <dceaser@gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
Time/Date: 3:34 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject:

digestify minarets@dceaser.sidwell.edu


Posted By: Zimmerman Jon <Jonz@dfi.com>
Time/Date: 3:36 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: early dmb

i remember some early dave matthews shows (late '91, early '92) at miller's 
and/or trax in charlottesville where the band covered john prine's "angel 
from montgomery."  does anyone have tapes of these shows?  i have some early 
tapes from c-ville as well as some tapes of dave on wtju to swap if anyone 
is interested.

thanks


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu (Brett)
Time/Date: 4:33 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Re: Debunking this silly north.pole gag -- NOT A GAG

>I find it highly unlikely that this post circulating about
>north.pole.org and SUN Microsystems has any truth to it.
>I checked with the InterNIC Registration Services and found that
>the following domain names are *not registered*:
>    north.pole.net
>    north.pole.com
>    north.pole.org
>DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT spam this site with copies of your emails,
>believing that some company is going to magically aid the homeless or
>some other such B.S.  If you cram Santa's mailbox with worthless junk,
>he won't be able to answer children's email, which is the purpose of
>the service.  There's only so much time between now and Christmas, you
>know.
>Think twice before believing "too good to be true" postings.

Well, it's too bad we have to doubt tidings of good news like this.
Fortunately, I don't think we do.

I have mailed santa@north.pole.org and elves@north.pole.org and have received
automated responses from them.  Also, I remember reading in the washington
post (they usually have fairly true stuff..) that companies would donate
$0.10 every time a ...  ok, I just waded through 2 weeks of style sections
(don't even ask why we have 2 weeks of papers lying around..  at least
they're in a stack. :)  Thursday, December 8.   According to the article,

"visit http://north.pole.org on the web where Santa and his elves (among
them Sun Microsystems and Friedman, Billings, Ramsey, & Co of Arlington) have
conspired to bring good cheer to four nonprofit organizations: Each time a
user accesses one of these pages, the charity receives a donation of 10
cents."

It doesn't mention mailing santa@north.pole.org, but I _assume_, given the
article and the automated responses I have received, that sending a message
will give the same results..

so, I say cram their mailboxes and maybe they'll feed the homeless or "some
other such B.S."...

[forwarded to dmb and bt nets to get more distribution]

happy holidays and be love,
brett

--
you don't have to worry about me
i might have been born yesterday
but i stayed up all night


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:04 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: feed them.....

hey all.

 In case some of ya' missed this post yesterday it is a cool thing to
do for a good cause. and it's easier than making a potato chip sandwhich.
here's the scoop:

***send a message to the below addresses as many times as you like
  and *10 cents* from every message will be donated by some big, rich
  corporations to help buy food for children that need it. all you do
  is type and you have contributed a gift to someone in need. here's
  some sample messeges:

                            "hello santa"
                 "Rudolph does your nose need batteries?"
      "hey little elves can you load up PEACE on Santa's sleigh,please."

 heres the addresses:

                       santa@north.pole.org.
                       rudolph@north.pole.org.
                       elves@north.pole.org.


send as many times as you can. spread the good around. start typing
all you Minaretter Netter Headers. our mentor Mr.Matthews would....

           could i have been starving somewhere in America?,

                              CHA * *
                                  \_/


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 5:09 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: oh, nothing important...

you know.....

lately i've been getting involved in the worst flame wars on both minarets
and jmu's bb.  i don't know why?  seems my temper running a bit thin.

strange.  i'm the most patient person i know.

anyway, just wanted to let everyone know that the dave matthews all-nighter
went really well.  i could post a setlist, but it's something like
35 or 40 songs long, and probably wouldn't interest that many people.


but it is one hell of a virtual setlist....:)

good luck on those final exams.  i'm going to go try and find a source
to my angst... 

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:27 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Do you beleive....?

hey all.

 if you are not a believer that the e-mail santa is going to help
out hungry children, then send away for this:

                < santas.on.the.net@reply.net.>



                                      i beleive. * *
                                                 \_/


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG ("K.A. Long")
Time/Date: 6:21 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Something to do for NYE

For those DMB fans who will be in DC for Dave at AU but didn't get DMB
NYE tickets, Blue Miracle is playing at the Bayou on NYE
and I can promise you a great time, if you decide to 
check them out.  They are an incredible band and you won't
be able to stop dancing.  The band is comprised of a percussion
section, lead, rhythm and bass, with a horn section.  

klong


Posted By: Bridget <BHAGGER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 6:27 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Nothing Much

      i really hate it when the phone rings while i'm avioding studing by
      reading these posts and i try to call up the mainframe and the lines are
      busy.  I really felt the need to share that.

      I like the santa thing -- nothing like helping others when your broke!!


      Merry Christmas to All --and to All a good night.


                                                       Bridget
                                                     Bhagger1@ua1vm.ua.edu


Posted By: shaft <KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 7:00 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Big Time!!! he he

O.K., since everyone seems to think that a video, good or bad, will shoot him
into the big time, I should let you know that local bands (at least one) down
here are already doing covers of Dave's songs. Imagine my suprise last Friday
night when I walked into a local bar (30-something crowd type place) to see a
band that one of my friend's brother plays in. Whew, that's hard to get out.
Any way, this cover band (Live Bait, they're actually pretty good) was playing
along--little Blues Trav., little Dead, little Band, but mostly "classic
rock"--and suddenly I hear the oh so familiar beginning of WWYS?. Small town,
small bar, small time band, DMB cover.  IMHO if a band can get covered in a
small hick town in a 30-something bar, that is a bigger indicator of potential
stardom than eMpTy-Vee. Please keep in mind that Farm-Vegas is not your typical
college town so bands here don't play music catering to the college crowd.
Anyway, exams suck and I need all the luck I can get. Luckily I have 5 new
shows (thanks Che!) to get me through exams. 
						Reaching, searching, failing,
							Kev :-Q

"I haven't showered today"
		-Dave (& me too)

I'm running out of cigarettes and the bookstores closed, film at eleven. 


Posted By: Brett <bmking@mail.wm.edu>
Time/Date: 7:04 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: Re: north.pole.net -- OOPS

Ok, well, I assumed, and one should never assume.

Mailing santa@north.pole.net won't do much except get you an automated 
response..  And no, it won't cause companies to donate anything to 
anyone.  

If you have a web browser (lynx, mosaic, netscape), though, I would 
recommend looking at http://north.pole.net since I believe that WILL 
cause companies to donate some bucks.

I apologize if anyone spent their time mailing santa, the elves, and even 
rudolph in the hopes it would do some good like I did.

take care,
brett

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brett Kingswell                                          bmking@mail.wm.edu


Posted By: Dominic Sagolla <dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu> (AnyoneOtherThanMe)
Time/Date: 7:28 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: merta

i've been trying to get in touch with


merta@microserve.com


for about two weeks now.    he hasn't answered my email, and i figure maybe
he's left for break or something.    i know he lives in Wilkes-Barre, PA,
but i can't remember the rest of the address.     i've even forgotten his
real name.    can anyone help me?    i need to send him postage for a
trade, and time is evaporating...    it was for the TLA show, and there
were three other winners.    if you're out there, email me with his
address, eh?


yipe!

-dominic, a.k.a. "anyoneotherthanme"


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    sing.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    fatch.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you dream about playing Under the Table...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |                               Oooo
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu    (  )
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu  ) |
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu      (_)
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: DLALLISON@unca.edu
Time/Date: 9:29 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: sort of a freebie...well in a way

O.K. Here is the deal. I am leaving Friday to go home. I am really
wanting the DMB article and interview file as well as the lyric
file(not R2T or UTTAD, I have those, I would like the other ones
the unreleased and covers and etc. you know what i'm getting at)
Surely someone has these saved or can directly send these 2 requests to
me by Friday.  IN RETURN for your retreival and e-mail skills, I will
spin you a copy of the 11/9/94 DMB show from VA Horse Center in Lexington,
VA!!!!!!!!! This tape is of extremely good quality and one of my newer
additions (courtesy of Kev; thanks dude!!)  It is a must have to any DMB collection.     No need to worry about blanks, postage or anything!! It is all on me
to the first person who can get these 2 files to me as soon as possible.
If you have the files AND the Lex. tape, let me know b/c I have an extensive collection you can choose from.  Hurry and be sure to include name and address!
I'll be checking my e-mail frequently to respond to you quickly!
                                           
                                      Dusty Allison
                         send to:    dlallison@unca.edu
btw:  If you are reading this keith, ill e-mail you later to talk about
tree, trade, gathering, etc,      peace!!


Posted By: NAME <SRH1111@delphi.com>
Time/Date: 10:45 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: last nye

	Hey!  If anybody was at the daveshow last new year's eve....what was
the name of the Johnny Clegg cover they did?  And does anybody know if 
Dave knows and/or has ever recorded anything with this So. African 
performer?  If you've never heard them, check out anything by Johnny
Clegg and Savuca (sp?).  excellent.


	later...steve


Posted By: Little Timmi <tos@acpub.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 11:07 PM Wednesday, December 14, 1994
Subject: cool band

I guess I'm a newbie here, but I don't understand why everyone is 
freaking out over the whole mtv thing - I can't wait to see wht he has 
done, I hear it's pnutty.

jean

ps - I heard a rumor that Carbon12 is putting out a demo over Christmas, 
anyone know where I might get a copy...I've got a feeling these guys are 
going to gather a following.

	"After everything I've done I hate myself for what I've become"

				-Trent Reznor-
				     nin


Posted By: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 12:07 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: bham show

i do not think we have come to any sort of concensus about the birmingham show
 gathering (or the possibility of one)    ...........   and i don't know who
 all is out there, still

here, still-----wherever     so in bham, when 28th rol;ls roooollls around-----
---we can do something.....  but keep in mind (or for those of you unfamiliar
 with boutwell auditorium, place in head)---- it is possible to just sort of
  hang out at the place----- i mean, its general admission, not too big, etc,
 etc....whatever..so if any of you other than the ones i know of want to try to
 meet somewhere, let me know who you are and when and where you want to be.
theoretically (not going to be a long social theory kick, i promise) -- we
could justsay something like "meet wherever, whenever" and its done.  wait, i
 already covered that, didn't i?  <HARK> i "hear" redundancy in this post.
damn i didn't want to get redundant
redundant

shit i didn't want to get.....
wait.....shit....wait
stop
                             love cigarettes,
                                              keith
oh and dusty-- mail me your # again, k? over and over again. no no no redundan.
......----..........
                             feeling much better now,
                                              keith  ...... again.

"please do not change colour while
 I am talking to you"
      --- MC 900 Ft. Jesus


Posted By: KEP <peterke3@wfu.edu>
Time/Date: 12:23 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: the video, when it airs...

My friend who works for dave in Charlottseville tells me the video is to 
air sometime this week-- i dont know when however, so keep your mtv eyes 
open, obah-kay-bee?
kristin


Posted By: Jason Steven Kreitzer <kratz@cs.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 12:41 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: DMB Indi. show '94--- trade

Did anyone tape the 11/14/94 show in Indianapolis?  A friend of mine had 
her 21st birthday that night and Dave talked about her for a little bit.  
It would make a nice belated birthday gift if anyone can help me out.  I 
can trade a 1st gen. tape of the show at the ritz in raleigh in 94.  
Thanks for any help,
    Jason Kreitzer

PS-it'd be nice if I could get it to her before christmas if anyone can 
help out

Duke University Durham, N.C. 27708
Internet:	kratz@cs.duke.edu


Posted By: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 3:01 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: veggie euphoria

THIS POST CONTAINS NO FLAMES HEREIN

but check it out anyway, ok?

look-- i was sitting on the floor, when I realised something
so i turned on my computer thingy and checked.  ...............................
...............................................................................
...........-----yep   I got 51 forms filled out for the rare dave tree today.

but wait, Theres MORE!!!!!

see, remember the question that asked about favourite dmb show.  that was
basically for fun -- so looking at all those things didn't get redundant.

red=== no sooo i'm checking out the answers, and get this====-0-0-----
out of 51 answers (47, actually) -- 5 people's favourite show has not happened
yet!!!  is this net cool or what?!?  i understand the guy who said he's been
to too many shows, but wow!  the clairavoyancy present astounds me!!!  not
picking on anyone, but which one of you can tell me what my favourite dmb
show will be?   no no don't -- i want to be surprised.

hey give me a break-- it's 100 hours past my bed time......

LOOK, a cat!                               with a hat,
                                              keith


"please do not change colour while
 I am talking to you"
      --- MC 900 Ft. Jesus


Posted By: Emiliy Lash <elash@gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
Time/Date: 7:45 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Something to do for NYE

If you are one of the luckies who got an AU ticket  and know how I can 
get ahold of one of these precious gems let me know. thanks


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:22 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: i'm on my way i'm makin' it..

>small bar, small time band, DMB cover.  IMHO if a band can get covered in a
>small hick town in a 30-something bar, that is a bigger indicator of potential
>stardom than eMpTy-Vee. 

no, i just think it proves that dmb plays good music that other people
want to pay homage to.

did you know that phish's ya mar isn't phish's?  i didn't learn that
until i'd seen them play the song 3 times.


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:23 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: who's johnny clegg?

>	Hey!  If anybody was at the daveshow last new year's eve....what was
>the name of the Johnny Clegg cover they did?  And does anybody know if 
>Dave knows and/or has ever recorded anything with this So. African 
>performer?  If you've never heard them, check out anything by Johnny
>Clegg and Savuca (sp?).  excellent.
>
>
>	later...steve
>
the only cover they did last nye was watchtower (believe it or not,
it was a nice surprise.  they  hadn't done it in about 6 months
or something like that).


no johnny clegg covers in that setlist.  in fact, nothing really
exciting at all in that setlist.  if i can remember to, i'll post
the setlist from last nye before i leave.

you were there, cha, weren't you?  they didn't do no clegg covers, did they?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 9:24 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: uh....this is disturbing

i just got a little thingy from the guy who asked when dave's new
cd was coming out.  seems he's caught some sort of word that a
bootleg cd might appear on the seen.

regardless of whether i interpreted what he said right or not, 
DO NOT PAY MONEY FOR A BOOTLEG CD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you do, we will see the tapers priveleges we've enjoyed so
much over the past 3 years yanked faster than my wisdom teeth.

we will know well ahead of time if another genuine dave cd is
going to be floating our way, so if you see some strange cd of
some random show DON'T PAY THE MONEY FOR IT!!!!!!!

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "Buresh, Kimberly" <KBURESH@ecrc.gmu.edu>
Time/Date: 10:02 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: FWD: A logistical nightmare for being a big fat elf

 For those with a sense of humor...

                  IS THERE A SANTA CLAUS?

       As a result of an overwhelming lack of requests, and with  research 
 help from that renown scientific journal SPY magazine (January, 1990)  - I 
 am pleased to  present the annual scientific inquiry into Santa  Claus.

       1)  No known species of reindeer can fly.  BUT there are  300,000 
 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of  these 
are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer 
which only Santa has ever seen.

       2)  There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the  world. 
 BUT since Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish  and 
 Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to to 15% of the total  378 
 million  according to Population Reference Bureau.  At an average (census) 
rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes.  One presumes 
there's at least one good child in each.

       3)  Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the 
 different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he  travels 
 east to west (which seemes logical).  This works out to 822.6 visits  per 
 second.  This is to say that for each Christian household with good 
 children,  Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, 
jump  down the  chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining 
presents under  the  tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up 
the chimney,  get back  into the sleigh and move on to the next house. 
 Assuming that each of  these  91.8 million stops are evenly distributed 
around the earth (which, of  course, we know to be false but for the 
purposes of our calculations  we will  accept), we are now talking about .78 
miles per household, a total  trip of  75-1/2 million miles, not counting 
stops to do what most of us must  do at  least once every 31 hours, plus 
feeding and etc.       This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles 
per  second,  3,000 times the speed of sound.  For purposes of comparison, 
the  fastest  man-made  vehicle on earth, theUlysses space probe, moves at a 
poky  27.4  miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 
miles  per  hour.

     4)  The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. 
 Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego  set 
 (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa,  who 
 is invariably described as overweight.  On land, conventional  reindeer can 
 pull no more than 300 pounds.  Even granting that "flying reindeer"  (see 
 point #1) could pull TEN TIMES the normal anount, we cannot do the  job 
 with eight, or even nine.  We need 214,200 reindeer.  This increases  the 
 payload -not even counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430  tons. 
 Again, for comparison this is four times the weight of the Queen 
 Elizabeth.

       5)  353,000 tons travelling at 650 miles per second creates 
 enourmous air resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same 
 fashion as spacecrafts re-entering the earth's atmosphere.  The lead  pair 
 of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy.  Per  second. 
Each.  In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing 
 the  reindeer behind them, and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. 
 The  entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a 
 second.  Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal forces 
17,500.06  times greater than gravity.  A 250-pound Santa (which seems 
 ludicrously slim)  would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 
pounds of  force.
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Posted By: DLALLISON@unca.edu
Time/Date: 10:57 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: thanks to all for lyrics

Thanks to all who sent me the lyrics in response to my last post.
Everyone was extremely helpful!!  In order to not clog the post up I will
e-mail to your personal address on Jan. 18 to the ones who get the freebie!!!
Im leaving inthe morning and am too involved with finals to do it
right now.  PLEASE NO MORE LYRICS! I am still in need of the article and interview file so the freebie offer still applies to whoever is the first
to get me that file!!Have a great xmas!!!!!!!!!
                                                   Dusty Allison
                                                   dlallison@unca.edu


Posted By: i am a goddess not your mother <CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu>
Time/Date: 11:27 AM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: i'm clutching it tight another glass in my hand...

'the air is gettign heavier it's closer i'm starting to swayand the hands 
around my shoulders dont' have names and wont' go away...'

johnny clegg and savuka.
good band
good good band.
from south africa.
an album of theirs i'd reccommend it called
'cruel crazy beautiful world'

rick just re-sparked me that it seems about time for another 
net-knighting. 
yes yes i know i did take a few reccommendations about a month ago. but 
i'd like some more people to send me mail telling me whoo they think 
should be the second officila minarets.knight and why you feel they 
deserve it. 
no bullshit like.. 'uh.. cause he has, uh.. cool hair.' nah. that's not 
good enough.
and be creative pholks. make me giggle.

and just cause i'm already writing in.. i'll tell everyone to go listen 
to track 10 from the cure's 'disintegration' album. just cause it's a 
song that deserves listening to at least once, maybe twice, thrice daily.

etch-a-sketch, bubbles, and silly putty....
clare emily
 
'tired disguised oblivion in every thing you do'

*******************************************************************************
  'i will try not to burden you i can hold these inside i will hold my breath
       until all these shivers subside... just look in my eyes....' -REM

                   cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: "Vincent N.J. Policelli" <vader@wam.umd.edu>
Time/Date: 12:31 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 392

I may have three tickets to the New Years Eve Show in Richmond.  I will 
not know for sure for another day or so, but I would like to get some 
names of people who need tix.  So if you need some, or know someone who 
needs some, let me know.


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com (MR CLARKE F BROWNE)
Time/Date: 1:42 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: lyrics

could any one help me out.  I would like to get lyrics to
everything except, R2T, and UTTAD.  If you have them please 
send them, if not how do I get them.  I also would like
guitar tab.
Thanks Clarke

"I don't know where I'll go, and I don't know where I've
been, and I don't know if I'll still be here when the sun
rises agian" Big Head Todd and The Monsters


"Celebrate with me cause life is short but sweet"DMB 


Posted By: Bridget <BHAGGER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:40 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: RE: B'HAM SHOW

><HARK> i "hear" redundancy in this post. damn i didn't want to get
>redundant redundant
>shit i didn't want to get.....
>wait.....shit....wait stop


 "Even Jesus Christ would have repeated himself if they didn't crucify him"

                                                   * Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.*



                                     Love Ya

                                     Bridget


Posted By: Benjamin David Gardner <bdg11@columbia.edu>
Time/Date: 2:56 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Johnny Clegg

Johnny Clegg and Savuka is an awesome South African band that everyone 
should check out. Johnny Clegg has been called the "South African Bruce 
SPringsteen," and has used his widespread popularity in the coutnry for 
political goals. Many of his songs were protests against apartheid. Has 
dave ever covered and of his sutff? I was goignt o post one these days 
that it would be great to hear dmb do "cruel, crazy, beautiful world" or 
"one (hu)man, one vote." 


Posted By: DISTANLOJ@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 3:16 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Dave Matthews Mailing List

Can you please give me a subscription to the mailing list
for Dave Matthews- I am a big fan.
ThaNK You,
Jeff DiStanlo
distanloj@urvax.urich.edu


Posted By: "Brian T. Hauser" <hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu>
Time/Date: 3:19 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: WWYS memories...

	I got home yesterday from work and my fiance had WWYS on the CD 
player.  I hadn't listened to it in at least a month, cause I'm busy 
listening to all these new bagby's I got.  Anyway, does anybody else miss
the jam at the end with Dave's frenetic but seemingly offbeat solo, which 
the rest of the band joins?  I like Leroi's CD solo enough, but I wonder if 
we'll ever hear the old way live again...

My Xmas wish:
If everybody sent me an e-mail message, the university pays me a dime...

Brian

________________________________________________________________________________

 Brian T. Hauser               hauser@chem.ufl.edu      Spins/RR Winter Tour
 Department of Chemistry    hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu    Coming in Feb. to
 University of Florida                                     a theater near you
________________________________________________________________________________


Posted By: Jeremy C Graves <jgraves@world.std.com>
Time/Date: 3:36 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Ways to REALLY help people...

Greetings all!

Considering the sheer volume of mail that has been generated regarding 
this 10 cent donation to children's charities for every piece of email 
received etc. etc. etc.  I thought I would post a few other ideas which 
will have a much more direct and dramatic impact on some people who 
really need help and will make you feel like a million bucks:

1) Provide one family with a holiday meal. Package an entire meal of
non-perishable goods (canned ham, veggies, dry milk, canned fruit,
dessert, whatever you can think of), gift wrap it and drop it off at a local 
food pantry.  Cost => about $25 and an hour or so of your time

2) give money to a homeless shelter or children's charity.  
Cost => whatever you can afford

3) give your time to a homeless shelter, particularly AFTER the 
holidays.  Spend an evening just helping out.  It costs you only one 
evening of your life and your time is ten times more valuable than your 
money to some of these groups.  Ask around

4) collect old clothes and blankets from your house/dorm/neighborhood and 
give them to a shelter. Cost => a few hours

5) donate toys to a Toys-for-tots program (bins found in most malls 
nation-wide)

6) give your change to salvation army bell-ringers.

& Finally,

7) talk to your family about doing something nice, as a family, for people
you don't even know.  In my family, at my mom's suggestion, we now only
exchange stocking-stuffers and spend the money that would normally go to
more expensive presents on holiday meals (see #1 above) for hungry
families in our town.  Consider this or some similar option.  You won't
believe how good this makes you feel and how much it means to the
recipients of your anonymous goodwill. 

I have tried very hard to not sound "better-than-thou"-ish.  These are all
just suggestions on how to help others, since it seems a LOT of people
here are interested in doing that.  Do with them what you will. 

this has been posted to multiple net groups, so some uf you will see this 
more than once.  I apologize for the inconvenience.

Peace and a joyful season to you all,
jerm

 __________________________________________________________________________
\ Jeremy C. Graves    [jgraves@world.std.com]   Cambridge, Massachusetts  /
 \=======================================================================/
  \  \\\\\\|//////  \*** To find happiness, be as if a child. Play and */
  /   |###   ###|    \*** share.  Dance and sing. Love one another. ****\
  \  \|(O) | (O)|/    \** Somewhere in there, you may even find God. ***/
   \__|   / \   |______________________________________________________/


Posted By: Kyle Kristopher Langschwager <allgood@umich.edu>
Time/Date: 3:37 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Johnny Clegg

Hey, I got somethin' interestin/ to say:
Does anyone know the song "Eiko, Eiko Aye Yay."
Well anyways, my friend and I have been talking about it for awhile and 
decided that it would be extremely cool if Dave sang that song.  If you 
don't remeber it, it goes something like this(to spark your memory).  Oh 
Yea, be careful because this song might get stuck in your head like it 
has mine for the last week or so.
"My grandma and your grandma, sitting by the fire
Your grandma says to my grandma, I'm gonna lite your heart on
fire, talkin' bout aye now, aye now, aye now, ayenow, Eiko, Eiko
Aye Yay......"

I can't remember the rest and I don't even know if those are the right 
lyrics, but you should be able to get the point.  I'd love for Dave to 
cover it, it's a very friendly campfire song that you all have probably 
had the opportunity to sing at your respective summer camps.
	Saying Goodbye,
		Kyle(some people call me keeley, some don't)


Posted By: Benjamin David Gardner <bdg11@columbia.edu>
Time/Date: 3:46 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Johnny Clegg

On Thu, 15 Dec 1994, Kyle Kristopher Langschwager wrote:

> Hey, I got somethin' interestin/ to say:
> Does anyone know the song "Eiko, Eiko Aye Yay."
> Well anyways, my friend and I have been talking about it for awhile and 
> decided that it would be extremely cool if Dave sang that song.  If you 
> don't remeber it, it goes something like this(to spark your memory).  Oh 
> Yea, be careful because this song might get stuck in your head like it 
> has mine for the last week or so.
> "My grandma and your grandma, sitting by the fire
> Your grandma says to my grandma, I'm gonna lite your heart on
> fire, talkin' bout aye now, aye now, aye now, ayenow, Eiko, Eiko
> Aye Yay......"
> 

it's actually "iko iko", although some choose to spell it "aiko aiko". i 
don't remember the original author/artist who did it, but it has become a 
dead staple that many a fan hopes will open the 2nd set of the show. If 
you've ever been to a dead show, and all the fans clap ion rhythm during 
the set break, they're clapping the Iko rhythm(although it oculd also be 
NFA, actually - the two are pretty close).

> I can't remember the rest and I don't even know if those are the right 
> lyrics, but you should be able to get the point.  I'd love for Dave to 
> cover it, it's a very friendly campfire song that you all have probably 
> had the opportunity to sing at your respective summer camps.
> 	Saying Goodbye,
> 		Kyle(some people call me keeley, some don't)
> 
> 
> 
this would be a pretty cool cover


Posted By: msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu
Time/Date: 4:13 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Johnny Clegg

> 
> it's actually "iko iko", although some choose to spell it "aiko aiko". i 
> don't remember the original author/artist who did it, but it has become a 
> dead staple that many a fan hopes will open the 2nd set of the show. If 
> you've ever been to a dead show, and all the fans clap ion rhythm during 
> the set break, they're clapping the Iko rhythm(although it oculd also be 
> NFA, actually - the two are pretty close).
> 

Don't quote me here but i swear i remembering watching some television 
show and they said that the originial version came from feuds in the 
Bayou of the Mississippi and may be other parts of LA.  As i remember it 
was originally not grandma but instead was some slang word for spy.  and 
i don't think it was heart but instead was house or something like that.  
once again don't quote me but i think that was it.  even if it isn't i'm 
sure this is one of those songs anonymous wrote (man this guy has been 
writing forever :).  Cya all 

matt

24 hours and i'm out of here.  do i return?  may be may be not


Posted By: AMZENDEL@unca.edu
Time/Date: 4:28 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: See Ya! I'm off for the holidays!

I'm leaving tomorrow.  Off to go skiing and then home.  

The Atlanta show
	Hope to see everyone there.  3:00 at the stage in Piedmont park.
	If not, I hope to see you at the show!
pwchan@wm
	Your wake tapes will be in the mail on Monday!
	
If anyone wants to carpool from Atl. to Charlotte for both shows, get in touch
with me.   I will be away from the vax, so call me  (704) 859 2045.


Have a great break!

alex


Posted By: Benjamin Booth <benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu>
Time/Date: 4:33 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Johnny Clegg

I saw Johnny Clegg and Savuka in Madrid last November and they were really 
good.  He speaks a lot of different languages and is obviously very 
intelligent.  This semester I picked up their greatest hits album and I 
must say that it sucks.  Some of the songs are too synthesizer-heavy.  
Once again, the nightmare of a talented band who try to produce their 
albums too much because the record company tells them to.  But I would 
recommend checking them out live.

Ben



				      ***************************
   				      *	Benjamin Eric Booth '95 *********
	 "Junior LOVES ya baby"	      **** benjamin@sccs.swarthmore.edu ***** 	
					 ******** bbooth1@cc.swarthmore.edu *	
						****** (610) 690 - 3772 *****
						     *******************	


Posted By: mxgall@mail.wm.edu (Gallan Michael)
Time/Date: 4:44 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Last minute holiday grovel...

    I hate to make this request so late, but if anyone out there has a
good tape of a recent show with "Get In Line," "34," or "The Maker"
that they'd like to trade, I would GREATLY appreciate it!  I'm trying
to make my (now) annual Dave mix of new songs/versions of songs for a
friend, and I'm at a loss.  I have a good amount of Dave (40+ hours)
to offer in return...HELP...THANKS...BYE!

                                                            --Mike

PS--Ummm, did I mention I'm leaving tomorrow night?


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 4:47 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Clegg cover NYe and Beatles....

hey all.

 to my knowledge there were no Clegg covers last New Years Eve at
the Marriott...or ever...but its not like i have an omniscient view
of Dave covers or anything...i am mere mortal stuck in the clothing
of the gods....what??!#z4?...i tweek myself out sometimes...

anyway, while i was purusing the fragments of me mind last evening i
came across two things....
    
         1) i remember one time in the B.C. days of Dave. upon walking
into the flood zone at about 8 o'clock when there was not a soul to
be seen, i stumbled upon Dave on stage about to sound check his
voice.   i scrambled to soundboard to try and get it on tape.
i plugged into the board and hark...no signal... Jeff just looked 
at me and smiled a green smile and seemed to say " forget it kid I'M
AT WORK,you'll get your feed soon enuff..." at least thats what his
eyes seemed to say.  i completely understood and prepared myself to 
enjoy the moment to the fullest. Dave strummed a couple more chords 
and proceeded to play "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" 
by the Beatles...awwwww man, damn wish that deck was rolling...oh
well...it was recorded in my mind...so if anyone wants a copy,
you'll have to find me in the flesh and i'll sing it to ya'!!!


        2) last nite i took a smoke break from thinking and went
outside and you know what happened...i thought some more...oh
well..i first remembered the above story and then remembered this. a
long time ago i watched two pine trees in my backyard swaying. they
seemed to be hugging and kissing...yea that sounds strange but i've
also communicated with a plant(save that story for another time)...
sooo i became fascinated with these trees making love before my eyes
and to the sky. i then felt a sort of weird watching feeling..an
embarrrassed feeling...so i turned away and let them do their leafy
stuff...sooo last nite i tried to find those trees...it was
hard..then suddenly they appeared from the forrest foreground and 
they were still going at it...wow trees belittle human lovemaking...
anyway these words streamed in my head with the help of the moon...


                 Silent  in the     Wind
                        entwined
                  Two    Trees   Embrace
                         Lovers
                       Since Seeds
                    One  Hundred  Years
                           o f 
                          quiet
                         passion.




  if your a hippie and you know it, clap your hands!!! (clap,stomp)


                burning desire to do SOMETHING of significance,

                                CHA * *
                                    \_/


Posted By: Ben Tanen <btanen@netspace.org>
Time/Date: 4:53 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Johnny Clegg

On Thu, 15 Dec 1994, Benjamin Booth wrote:

> Once again, the nightmare of a talented band who try to produce their 
> albums too much because the record company tells them to.  But I would 
> recommend checking them out live.

Hmm.  Could this be an allusion to another band?

> Ben

Ben (ha!)


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:09 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: it is real....

> Forwarded message:>
> > Subject: Re: north.pole.net  --  OOPS
> > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas
> > X-Comment:  Open discussion for the dave matthews band
> > 
> > 
> > Ok, well, I assumed, and one should never assume.
> > 
> > Mailing santa@north.pole.net won't do much except get you an automated 
> > response..  And no, it won't cause companies to donate anything to 
> > anyone.  
> > 
> > If you have a web browser (lynx, mosaic, netscape), though, I would 
> > recommend looking at http://north.pole.net since I believe that WILL 
> > cause companies to donate some bucks.
> > 
> > I apologize if anyone spent their time mailing santa, the elves, and even 
> > rudolph in the hopes it would do some good like I did.
> > 
> > take care,
> > brett
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Brett Kingswell                                          bmking@mail.wm.edu
> > 
> > 
> 


 ***********************************************************
  i think the address for the donations is different....
 
               santa@north.pole.ORG.
               elves@
               rudolph@

    just substitute the NET. from the previous message with ORG. ya' know.
 
  i sent away a million times and never got a response...however i
  sent away for the <net.> address and did get an automated response...
  again, there is a listing of addresses of Santas on the net and in 
  the list it tells which addresses will have money donated....here it is..
 
                 santas.on.the.net@reply.net.
 
 
                      
                      i have seen reindeer fly at a DEAD show...* *
                                                                \_/


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:24 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: disregard...

hey all.

 disregard the message about santas...i don't understand computers
wortha shit and shouldn't try to act like it..ya' know...there are
some corporate sponsors out there who WILL GIVE a dime for every
message but i think the LIST of them is on the WWW...on some http:
addresss..i don't know.. oh well...we tried to help thru our terminals...
wheres the REAL santa....

                              wishing,

                               * *
                               \_/


Posted By: The Ecolon <WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU>
Time/Date: 5:31 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: sorry, this is wierd

hi guys, boofy and koliver, i have  quick problem.  i tried to send
the form in to koliver and it got rejected.  please send me your email
address.  my site doesn't like bitnet at all, so if that makes a big
difference to your site, let me know, and i can try to figure it out. 
thanks, peace, and happy holidays to all, Wll

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
   __  "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies? 
  /  \ ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set
  |e:| you free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  \__/ "I can't believe that we would lie in our graves, wond'ring if we had
        spent our living days well"-Dave Matthews Band:Lie in Our Graves
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 5:36 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: FROG @@

hey all. (last message of the day...hopefully)


   i just realized something....

 if i were driving about 95 m.p.h. on the highway and a little green
frog jumped into my path...i would do all in my power to stop for the
little critter...even if it meant putting a little ding in me car...
...what if you were born a helpless highway-ditch frog ?.... 
wouldn't you want someone to look after you until you made it the pond ?
 ...Peacetoallye'wholoveallcreaturesequally.


                  could i have been a little clueless frog???,

                                     @ @
                                     \_/ ribbit


Posted By: Kyle Kristopher Langschwager <allgood@umich.edu>
Time/Date: 6:04 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Re: Johnny Clegg

Hey, I was the person who wrote about the Aiko Aiko Aye Yea song and I 
officially found out(not from this net) that it is ...Flag(not heart or 
house) on fire..."   Just a correction on my mistake as well as other 
people who offered different suggestions on what it might be.  Someone in 
my house told me the correct word.
	Saying Goodbye,
		Kyle(some people call me keeley, some don't)


Posted By: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 6:17 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: bitnet probs

>i tried to send  the form in to koliver and it got rejected.

  in the last few years, no one has had any problem with the address:
 KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU

I know some people get a bitnet node on my address, but the above should
 work regardless.

if it doesn't work, just email me direct....hahaha

                           keith
"please do not change colour while
 I am talking to you"
      --- MC 900 Ft. Jesus


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com (MR CLARKE F BROWNE)
Time/Date: 6:56 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: a little help

I don't have much to trade with, but I will pay for postage 
and tapes if someone will hook me up with boots with song
#36; after Her; drive in, drive out; say good bye; get in
line. 


Posted By: "Stephen J. Seremeth" <sseremet@emba.uvm.edu>
Time/Date: 7:35 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: VT contingent at 2/14!!!

Hey there everyone-
	Today I met a fellow netter(for lack of one of the other ten
bizillion words y'all use) who I'm helping spin some tapes for a newbie
offer he made.  We got to talkin' and before I knew it I was on the phone
to VA, to order up tix for the BIG SHOW - Yes, we're coming from
Burlington, VT.  This will be my first show - I've been looking forward to
going for about a year and a half now(to a DMB show, of course), and we
are excited about meeting all of you who can make it.  If we're
driving 12+ hours to the show, I'd like to see most of you there.  I don't
think there are too many tickets left - we're not even sitting together -
but I encourage you all to make the effort, if it's feasible.  See you
soon and have a good day. 

	Posting for the pure excitement of anticipation -

			Steve

P.S.  I just hope my old (150,000 mile) Volvo makes it there.  See ya!


Posted By: DAMOJONNIER@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 11:08 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: Iko Iko

someone named KYLE once wrote:

> Does anyone know the song "Eiko, Eiko Aye Yay."   

  actually the title is (at least every time i've heard it) Iko Iko Unde

  ...Unde is pronounced un-day... and the dead version does rock balls...
 and to hear dave do it would be great... and if I see you at the charlotte
 show why I'll sing it for you myself.  Just because I love you.

                                            love, disco 

================================================================================
"you make the mistake	       	                 		...disco dan
  & judge a man by his race                         friendly
 you'll go through life                                   neighborhood        
  with egg on your face"                                            psychopath
		-beatsie boys 	                   damojonnier@davidson.edu
================================================================================

		  -= think, it ain't illegal yet! =-	 


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com (MR CLARKE F BROWNE)
Time/Date: 11:23 PM Thursday, December 15, 1994
Subject: free sex at dave shows***!!and it's good

Now that I got your attention, will someone please send me
guitar tab.  I would love to get it before you'll sign off
for break.  Also has anyone else heard song 36 called
casinova.  Are there any lyrics to Two-Step.
Clarke
"Celebrate with me, cause life is short but sweet for
certian"DMB
"I don't know where I'll go, and I don't know where Ive
been, and I don't know if I'll still be here when the sun
rises again"BHTM 


Posted By: Graham Spice <gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 3:54 AM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: complaints

So as not to ruin my point, I should start right away:  there is too much 
talk about nothing on minarets.net.  Disclaimer #1: I'm all for progress 
and more interest in the band.  I have no problem with there being 
600,000 people on the phish.net and I will not have any problem with 
there being a million on this one.  I just hate reading their messages.  
(Example subjects include: no new dave songs, flames to fred house, 
who's this guy peter, spoon ramblings, just wanted to say that I love dave, 
boyd rules!!!, etc.)  I guess in the end, I just want to know tour dates, set 
lists, and tree announcements.  If anyone else is interested in receiving 
JUST this info., I will happily see if I can set up a new list.  Disclaimer 
#2: no promises.  This would be up to the computer staff at my host, 
obviously.  In the meantime, please don't write if you have nothing to say.
It is possible to check your email and agree with what you read or even 
disagree without having to write back.  So, without further bs, bye.


Posted By: Stupid <BWSIMP0@UKCC.uky.edu>
Time/Date: 4:16 AM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Sorry

Sorry for the unsub sent to the net.
I knew better, But i's stiil gots an exam today (in 6 hours) then i's gots to
drive home to Hampton, Va.
                                      Everybody have a Great Christmas,
                                                Brian at UK


Posted By: Emiliy Lash <elash@gateway.us.sidwell.edu>
Time/Date: 9:43 AM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Re: FROG @@

If all people only took Dave's songs so to heart.  


Posted By: BOBBSTEPH@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 11:13 AM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: 11/8/94?????

	I know you all are probably tired of me posting this message (it is the
3rd time), but I am pretty desperate to find the tape of the 11/8/94 show from
the Lisner Auditorium in D.C.  I took my girlfriend there for her first Dave
show and I would love to give her a tape of it for Christmas.  If anyone can
reply to this address "bobbsteph@urvax.urich.edu" by about noon tomorrow, 
Saturday, I would greatly appreciate it.  I have a few Dave tapes to trade.
I don't believe that a tape does not exist for this show, so someone has to 
have it.  

						Stephen


Posted By: shaft <KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu>
Time/Date: 11:51 AM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Joy!

I just thought I'd write and say how glad I am that everyone is so supportive
of worthy causes, such as helping out with all of these charitable
orginazations.  Most people our age are so apathetic about the world around
them.  Others talk alot but fail to do anything.  I just thought I'd send out a
big touchy-feely kinda thank you for all the compassion this net is showing.  I
just hope that it's not restricted to this holiday season, let's do what we can
EVERYDAY to help those in need. Oh, by the way, so this isn't totally non-DMB,
I think Dave should cover "The Women are Smarter." It's the same (I believe)
musical pattern as "Aiko Aiko", but I like the lyrics more. It's another
Dead/JGB staple, although it isn't played half as much as "Aiko Aiko." One more
thing, if ANYBODY is still out there, could you please *please, please* send me
the tab files, I'm leaving tomorrow and I need them for a friend. Thanks a
mucho.
							
"It's not me, it's the people who say 'The men are leading the women astray.'
I say that the women today are smarter than the man in every way."
							-?Dead/JGB?

							Clappin' and Stompin'
							Kev :-Q

P.S.-While I'm on the JGB tangent, I'm still looking for the 11/12?/93 show
from Hampton, Va. Iwant it, I want it, I want it!!!!!! That was the coolest
fucking concert I've ever been to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!thank you :)


As always, smoking is the rule D'jour for my messages.  


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 1:04 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Re:complaints....

> From: Graham Spice <gspice@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
> Subject: complaints

Graham wrote:

> So as not to ruin my point, I should start right away:  there is too much 
> talk about nothing on minarets.net.  Disclaimer #1: I'm all for progress 
> and more interest in the band.  I have no problem with there being 
> 600,000 people on the phish.net and I will not have any problem with 
> there being a million on this one.  I just hate reading their messages.  
> (Example subjects include: no new dave songs, flames to fred house, 
> who's this guy peter, spoon ramblings, just wanted to say that I love dave, 
> boyd rules!!!, etc.)  I guess in the end, I just want to know tour dates, set 
> lists, and tree announcements. 

**********************
and I say.....
so much to say though:
 DMB has a limited repertoire in comparison to other touring bands
that have a devoted following...this makes the setlists almost the
same but just coming from a different state... now the nite they bring
"people,people" out of the archives is a show and setlist to
remember...don't get me wrong, i search for setlists too...just a
whole net of that would be stagnant...informative, yes...but no fun.
what i like about Minarets net is it's freshness...its a very interactive
and we all have cool things to say on whatever subject seems to pop
up...if you don't like what people say, you can grab a bit of a post 
by speed reading, then decide whether you think it has any
merit...then press D faster than a snap...
i can tell you now that if you see a message coming from mailbox...delete 
it right away...i probably won't even mention Dave in it...i'll probably 
talk about some flying rhinocerous or how well my veggie birkenstock fits
or what is happening down at the local street corner...jump,jump,jump...
all i try to do is keep everything imaginative and not so serious...
"life is short but sweet for certain"...remember? enjoy the company
of strangers my friend.


> If anyone else is interested in receiving 
> JUST this info., I will happily see if I can set up a new list.  Disclaimer 
> #2: no promises.  This would be up to the computer staff at my host, 
> obviously.  In the meantime, please don't write if you have nothing to say.
> It is possible to check your email and agree with what you read or even 
> disagree without having to write back.  So, without further bs, bye.
> 

yea but its nice to get a response. actually it bugs moi when i ask a
question and noone responds... that is, if it pertains to something of 
relevance ....but i would join your net if you made it...i'll talk of
cheetahs and desert llamas for peace on this net and see where the 
next DAMABA show is on the your net...PEACE.

                       cruisin' with a porpoise,

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Posted By: Kyle Kristopher Langschwager <allgood@umich.edu>
Time/Date: 2:34 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Shannon Worrell....&..emily what are you doing?

Just a quick one....today after driving back from Ann Arbor realty where 
I signed my lease for school next year my buddies and I were listening 
to the radio(a rarity) and I heard a lady singing"Every little thing she 
does is magic"--->the old Police tune, and it sounded very familiar to me 
but I couldn't quite place the voice right away.  Then, as I sipped away 
on my S.Pellegrino, it came to me that it had a very Nantucket like 
feeling to me. (Now actually...,this all went through mey head much 
faster than this message portrays). The coincidences were astounding, the 
S.Pellegrino(an Italian sparkling water) was served at the restaurant 
that I worked at and this song was playing!!!So afteer a little shuffling 
and running the lyrics "almost and angel...." through my head, it came to 
me that it was none other than Shannon Worrell.  Edie Brickel and Margo 
Timmins(Cowboy Junkies) were going through my head, but it definitly had 
a Shannon feeling.....  now, they never said it on the radio station but 
I am 100% sure that it was her.  So, did anyone out there know that she 
had been singing this or is it a relatively knew tune.  To say the least, 
it sent a chill down my spine, her voice is strikingly beautiful.  Kinda 
like a girl that you would love to take to a log cabin out in the woods 
somewhere in the mountains.  Hell....maybe that's just a dream.
	Emily, you had better start wrtining before you go home from 
school.  This net has been so dead and noone is really friendly right 
now.  Maybe everyone went home...lookin very forward to NYE and the 30th, 
it should be a very good time that everyone will share stews at.  Well, 
that should be my last post to the whole net for a long time.  Possibly 
about 4 months, you see, overseas is calling my name out.  I hope this 
thing doesnt' change to much, there justight be a lot of new faces.  I 
hope that all the regulars don't get discouraged in writing as much as 
they used to, it's always good to read comments that you pretty much no 
the person from there frequency....or do you?  Well, is anyone else out 
there going on that Semester at Seas program, through the University of 
Pittsburgh.  It should be a FINE time, full of stews and new friendly 
faces.  And as emily knowes, there is nothing like meeting a person and 
then through contact, getting to know that person, it's one of the most 
fulfiling things in the world.  CONTACT.
	Saying Goodbye(for awhile),
		Kyle(some people call me keeley, some don't)


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:40 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: chockimonfinoayeayeyae, chockimonfinayea....

>Does anyone know the song "Eiko, Eiko Aye Yay."
>Well anyways, my friend and I have been talking about it for awhile and 
>decided that it would be extremely cool if Dave sang that song.  If you 
>"My grandma and your grandma, sitting by the fire
>Your grandma says to my grandma, I'm gonna lite your heart on
>fire, talkin' bout aye now, aye now, aye now, ayenow, Eiko, Eiko
>Aye Yay......"
>
oh yeah....
wasn't that written by the bangles?


anyway, i logged on to  my account today, and found that mail to
14 different people got bounced today, as in lyrics file and
faq file and stuff.  i don't know what's up.  usually this means
that something is wrong with jmu's internet access through uva.

my system has told me that it will continue to try and send the
files through for another 10 days or so, but usually when this sort
of thing happens, i just get inundated with lots and lots and lots
of bounced mail for 10 days.

anyway,  if you haven't recieved these files by the time you get 
back from break (i know, i know), send another request to me. 
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "Morgan Dailey" <morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu>
Time/Date: 2:53 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Iko Iko

                      Subject:                              Time:  3:44 PM
  OFFICE MEMO         Iko Iko                               Date:  12/16/94
Concerning Iko Iko, the song is about competing gangs in New Orleans.  Apparently rival gangs would try to steal each other's flags, or whatever and would routinely send spies out,ect.  The song developed as a marching song during celebrations and parades in new Orleans, thus there is no original artist.  "Iko" is probably short for Hike, as in "Hike 'o all day".  Many artists have covered it.  We've established that the dead have, I know Dr. John has as well, there are others I'm sure.  As the dead sing it:

My spy boy saw yo' spy boy sittin' by the fi-yo,
My spy boy told yo' spy boy, "I'm gonna set yo flag on fi-yo."

I said, "Hey now," "hey now,"
Iko Iko all day, jokomo feno na na nay, jokomo feena nay.

My grandma and yo' grandma sittin' by the fi-yo
Said my grandma to yo' grandma, "Gonna get yo' tail on fi-yo."

I said, "Hey now," "hey now,"
Iko Iko all day, jokomo feno na na nay, jokomo feena nay.

There may be other verses, but the dead typically stick to this version.

--Morgan


Posted By: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Time/Date: 2:53 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: cover girl....

>Just a quick one....today after driving back from Ann Arbor realty where 
>I signed my lease for school next year my buddies and I were listening 
>to the radio(a rarity) and I heard a lady singing"Every little thing she 
>does is magic"--->the old Police tune, and it sounded very familiar to me 
>but I couldn't quite place the voice right away.  

that would be shawn colvin.  she just put out a cd that's nothing
but covers and called it "cover girl."  lots of really good stuff,
and only about 3 of the songs are as common as that one.

but as a matter of fact, every time i've played shannon worrell on
the icebox menagerie, someone has called up saying "i didn't know
that shawn had new original material, when did this come out" and
i say "it came out several months ago, but it's not shawn colvin,
it's shannon worrell" and i win over a new convert to the wonders
of charlottesville va.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
take out the highways and let     \             rick thompson
the frogs have their peace, -k?    \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: "Tom L. Wallace" <tomwa@jsbus.com>
Time/Date: 3:19 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: MINARETS digest 395

I forget the name of the artist, but Iko Iko was recorded 
originally by one of those black all girl bands in the late 50s 
or maybe early 60s.  Here in Santa Cruz every summer we have 
weekly free concerts on the beach where washed up bands from the 
50s and 60s come and play.  Davey Jones from the Monkees, Martha 
Vandrel, The Shirels, Flo and Eddie from the Beach Boys/Zappa, 
bands like that. The girls that wrote Iko Iko came and played it 
for us at one of these free shows.

-Tom

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Posted By: Suzanne Balleisen <suzi@teleport.com>
Time/Date: 3:31 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 395

Hi folks!
Interesting to hear Johnny Clegg come up here! I know it does make sense, 
but so few people in the states have ever heard of Savuka.  When I first 
saw them live in South Africa back in 1987, they were still Jaluka.  
Yes...they have gotten much more produced and more western influences in 
their sound...but the soul and ryhthm is *quite* african.  Anyway...doubt 
DMB would cover their stuff because of differing styles.  But, who 
knows? a traditional version of Siyayilanda would be cool, or Asimbonanga 
even :)
-Suzi@teleport.com


Posted By: JONICOTRA@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Time/Date: 4:43 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Ritz power jam setlist?

can anyone help me obtain the setlist from the power jam? guests included?
thanks alot.... just got them in a trade but no setlist was included....

josh


Posted By: Elizabeth J Pearson <hfejp@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu>
Time/Date: 4:46 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Austin Tower Performance

Wow!

Just got home (after running like a maniac through the pelting rain) from
the band's appearance at Tower Records in Austin.  Dave, Boyd, and Stefan
played a sweet little set for about 100 people.  It was hot and cramped, but
the crowd was very respectful (actually, sometimes almost too quiet I think).
Dave was baked -- lots of great Davetalk as he babbled on and on about partying
with Everything and Little Sister (a really good Austin band).  Most of the
crowd seemed only to know UTTAD, but were appreciative even when they weren't
familiar with a tune.  They played without a setlist, doing pretty much
whatever the crowd yelled for (but suprisingly, no Ants or Satelite!).

Highlight for me:  Dave mutters into the mike, "hmm, what do you wanna do?",
so on a whim I shout out, "Drive In, Drive Out"!  He kinda smiles and says,
"Oh, that one" and without skipping a beat launches into it!!  I think I was
one of the few in the store who knew it, but it was amazing to hear it. (I
talked to him after the show and he said they were definetly bringing it back,
but they haven't had a break to work it back up again...we shall see).

Anyway, here's the setlist:

Nancies, Granny, Two-step, Jimithing, Say Goodbye, Drive In Drive Out,
Recently (with the Take me to the River, Norweigian Wood, Some People do/don't
intro).

It was great to see them after so many months.  Even though it wasn't the full
band I think they're sounding great.  My semester is over and I'm looking
forwrd to my three-day roadtrip!!!  Gotta go dry off now and get ready for the
show tonight.

Good luck to those who haven't finished yet.  Brett -- I miss you, are you
alive??

Beth


Posted By: Elizabeth J Pearson <hfejp@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu>
Time/Date: 4:46 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: Austin, Texas in review

Hi all!  Just returned from tonight's show in Austin.  Very solid show, if
a little uninspired (with a few flashes of absolute brilliance I think).
The crowd wasn't too bad -- most seemed to be UT students, and everyone
was pretty well behaved.  It was pretty obvious that the band tailored the
setlist to appeal to those who only know the CDs -- but everything they played
sounded really good, and I talked to a few people who had never even heard of
them before tonight who were absolutely gushing!  Anyway, here goes:

Seek Up
Nancies
Warehouse
Jane
Help Myself (good to hear this!)
Satelite (with a long teaser intro)
Billies
Pay For What You Get
Rhyme & Reason
Jimithing (really long, extended jam -- very cool.)
Lover
True Reflections (nicely done)
Recently --> #36
Ants
E:
Christmas Song (very beautiful, but almost ruined by rude crowd noise)
Watchtower

So the setlist was pretty standard, but even now I still can't get over what
a tremendous band they are.  Even their most basic show still blows me over!
Gotta go sleep now. . .see some of you in Houston tomorrow??

(yawn)

Beth


Posted By: cjsabec@mwbb.com
Time/Date: 5:34 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: quick question

i just got a new e-mail system.  i have signed off minarets from my old 
system, but can't seem to get back on.  i've been sending a message to 
listproc as follows:

subscribe minarets

am i missing something?  would someone please clue me in.  thank you!


Posted By: Dominic Sagolla <dominic@raptor.sccs.swarthmore.edu> (AnyoneOtherThanMe)
Time/Date: 7:08 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: ->> Granny

hmmmm  iko iko into Granny???

anyone?

-anyoneotherthanme

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
read.   bike.    read.    listen to dave.    sing.    eat?
sleep.    read.    type.    listen to dave.    write.    eat.
sleep?    play disc.    fatch.    bike.    listen to dave.    EAT!
eat... eat.    listen to dave.    listen to dave.    hear dave.

repeat until you dream about playing Under the Table...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          |                               Oooo
Dominic Sagolla '96       | dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu    (  )
Swarthmore College        | dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu  ) |
Swarthmore, PA 19081      | sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu      (_)
                          V
 Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.


Posted By: NAME <SRH1111@delphi.com>
Time/Date: 7:39 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: J. Clegg

	Hey, it's the Steve who started the Johnny Clegg discussion.  I'm
not going to rehash this again, and my memory is far from perfect, but I 
am more inclined to remember music related occurances than what I had for 
breakfast this morning.  Dave not only played a Johnny Clegg song last 
nye but he even announced it from the stage before he started!!  I swear!!
The next week I acquired some of his stuff and have been enjoying it ever
since.  Can anyone out there back me up on this one??


			just steve


Posted By: rcg2@Lehigh.EDU (radical ro)
Time/Date: 7:58 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: id for Vail show

  Hi,
  I was a subscriber to this net and had to unsubscribe b/c of finals coming up
  and the semester coming to a close, plus the crazy amount of messages I got
  that I couldn't keep up with. Anyway, sorry for this rambling, but I need to
  find out the date of the DMB vail show that has the following setlist:
  (I just got this froma friend and he didn't know the date either, but said
  it was some recent festival show out in Vail, this past summer maybe?)
  Side A:
  Intro
  One Sweet World
  Tripping Billies
  Two Step
  Satellite
  Jimi Thing
  Say Goodbye
  Dancing Nancies
  Side B:
  Warehouse
  Song That Jane Likes
  All ALong the Watchtower
  Pay for what you get
  Recently
  Rhyme+Reason
  Ants Marching

  Please respond to me at rcg2@Lehigh.edu if you know the date of this show.
  Don't post it to the net since I am no longer a member, but I'll be back in
  September when I get back from my semester abroad.  Till then enjoy NYE show
  and Happy Holidays.
  -Ro

            "Put your good where it will do the most!"
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Posted By: MESSIER BRAD ALAN <messierb@ucsuc.Colorado.EDU>
Time/Date: 7:58 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: 11/11/94 tree :-(

I am very sad to announce that I still have not recieved my seed for the 
11/11/94 Wait Chapel show.  What does that mean to you?  Well in a few 
hours (5:00am) I will be leaving for a nice fun 30 hour drive home.  
Since I did not get the tapes yet I don't think I will be able to get 
them out to you before X-Mass like I said.  Sorry 8-(.  But I will try to 
get my mail fowarded and get the tapes out to you ASAP.  If you set up a 
trade with me I promise that I will get your tapes out to you as soon as 
I can.  Sorry about all of this, but things are out of my hands.  So I 
hope everyone enjoys their break and I will have those tapes out to you 
as soon as I get my hands on them.

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: @mwbbmsg.attmail.com:rie!4399 (4399)
Time/Date: 9:37 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: CJ Sabec

//////
 and I heard a lady singing"Every little thing she 
does is magic"--->the old Police tune,
//////


this is form hawn colvin's new album of cover tunes....not shannon  :)


Posted By: SURF69ER@aol.com
Time/Date: 10:22 PM Friday, December 16, 1994
Subject: !@#$ GET ME OFF OF THIS!@##$%%

PLEASE I AM GETTING TO MUCH MAIL AND I CAN'T HANDLE IT PLEASE GET ME
OFF!!!!!!!!!!
                                                  FROM, HOPELESS


Posted By: Elizabeth J Pearson <hfejp@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu>
Time/Date: 3:29 AM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: Austin, Texas in review

Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 17:37:28 EST
From: USXE28B@prodigy.com  (MR CLARKE F BROWNE)
To: hfejp@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu
Subject: Austin, Texas in review

did you get a boot of this

---------
Clarke:

There were three people there trying to tape, but as helpful as Bagby was
about patches, nobody seemed to have brought the right cables! (sigh).
Two guys did set up audience mikes, and I got both of their adresses so I
should be able to get a copy, although I'm not sure what the quality will be.
One of the tapers also did an audience tape of the Tower Records show earlier
that afternoon, which I am much more interested in because of the incredible
little setlist (especially Drive In, Drive Out).  I am working right now on
getting in touch with the people who taped, and as soon as I get copies I
will be sure to post to Minarets in case anyone is interested.

Beth


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 3:40 AM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: im up too late

> 
> There were three people there trying to tape, but as helpful as Bagby was
> about patches, nobody seemed to have brought the right cables! (sigh).
Nobody had RCA cables? I cant believe this. Or is Bagby giving a 
different kind of feed. I just figure RCA cables are what you use to hook 
it up to your stereo so you must have em. Was it cuz he was only giving a 
digital DAT feed or something? anyone got a clue?

a worried taper who doesn't have much equipment


> Two guys did set up audience mikes, and I got both of their adresses so I
> should be able to get a copy, although I'm not sure what the quality will be.
> One of the tapers also did an audience tape of the Tower Records show earlier
> that afternoon, which I am much more interested in because of the incredible
> little setlist (especially Drive In, Drive Out).  I am working right now on
> getting in touch with the people who taped, and as soon as I get copies I
> will be sure to post to Minarets in case anyone is interested.
> 
> Beth
> 


Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 2:46 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: the bagby patch..

bagby patch kids...hehe no really...

On Sat, 17 Dec 1994, Todd Kushnir wrote:

> I taped at the Eugene, Or. show.  If Bagby is using the same Panisonic 
> SV-3700, then the only available ANALOG output from his deck is XLR (or 
> Cannon plug...three pin...) you'll need the female end of an XLR to male 
> RCA if all you have is RCA in's.  I'm assuming you have an analog deck 
> with RCA inputs...

EEEEKKK!!!! From what iv'e seen in my lasy year of taping, me and most 
everybody else who tapes dave is stuck in the land of analog decks with 
RCA ins. I haven't seen more than 2 or 3 DATS at a show and have seen up 
to 13 analog decks (Horse Center..). What happened to the RCA out he used 
to have? it came out of the back of some equipment rack and was one of 
the only things visible on the back. It was hooked up to his dat, because 
when he stopped, we stopped. Did he switch something on us? I cant afford 
to bring my xlr to 1/4 inch to RCA to hi impedance converters (a joke). 
What ever happened to the signal splitter he had at browns island. A 
beauty, 4 rca outs, meaning four separate deck tress, plus me with my 
y-jacks :-)

anyways....in the likely event that i will attend another show where I 
can get a patch and not have to run mikes up Clare's dress (v-day) I just 
want to know what the word its. Can someone tell Bagby we like RCA? !!
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Posted By: Sir Buford <cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu>
Time/Date: 2:52 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: for stereo gurus FREE SURROUND SOUND!!

This is for people who do not have surround sound on thir stereo, but 
wAnt it. 
I wont go into detail, but when stereo positive signals are bridged as a 
mono signal, lots of stuff (including lots of vocals) is phased out.  I 
discovered this off a Nine Inch Nails net, anyway..
get 4 speakers.
hook up tow normally.
take the other two and put the pos(red) and neg(black) wires into the two 
pos(red) speaker outputs on the back of your deck. make sure both reds go 
to one red and both blacks go to the other red. (does this make sense?)
you will end up with three wires in each red speaker output and one in 
each black.
The two speakers hooked up normally will have the normal signal, the 
other two will have the phased out signal, which will only play selective 
stuff, to get this full effect, unplug the normal speakers and just 
listen to the phased ones, you will usually get a karaoke effect with 
some guitar etc missing. 
its really cool...
BTW this works incredible with NIN and with other techno/industrail stuff 
(Lords of Acid, etc)


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Posted By: Dancing Nancy <driver8@phy.duke.edu>
Time/Date: 3:02 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: Angel lyrics

If someone has the lyrics to Prine's "Angel from Montgomery" would youu 
send them to me please!   I've been trying to arrange this song, but it 
would help if I knew the real lyrics.

Someone asked where they might obtain a Carbon12 demo - well, that's my 
band and all you have to do is mail cory <car3@acpub.duke.edu> or myself 
and we'll try to get one to you.

sean

ps - as for covering Dave songs, why not? they're a lot of fun to play...
(my personal favorite to cover are "After Her", "Billies", and "Jimmi")

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            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
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                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: patrick quinn <pdquinn@nyx.cs.du.edu>
Time/Date: 3:14 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: dave shows

Does anybody know the dates for the dmb-bht tour this spring, if so when 
will they be in colorado?
i am looking to trade for any bht, rem, or fjb shows.  i have a large 
selection of dave shows, anyone interrested?
i am also looking for a tape of dave on may 13, 1994 at red rocks, they 
opened for bht.  i would be very interested in a trade.

please e-mail me at pdquinn@nyx.cs.du.edu if you can answer my question 
or are interested in trading

               thanks
 
                  Ryan

Atticus Finch on courage, "It's when you know you're licked before you 
begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what."


Posted By: Frenkel <frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Time/Date: 3:26 PM Saturday, December 16, 1994
Subject: The Maker

SWM, 18, 6', seeking good copy
of the song The Maker.  Has
lots to trade.  No smokers
please.  

					

						-Brian


Posted By: shel <SLM94002@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Time/Date: 3:32 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: new, fun purchase!!!!!!!!!!!!

so i was just in a music store (won't plug the name) and i was flipping thru
various sections of cd's to find something new and interesting. i came to the
world music section and began to peruse the selections.  i found   a Johnny
Clegg and Savuka cd  and the name rang a bell. i picked it up and decided to
buy it just because of all the wonderful things i have heard about the band on
this .net.  my friend thought i was crazy to buy a $17 cd of a band that i had
never heard.  i got it home, threw it on the system and couldn't be happier.
the songs have great words and themes, the beats are terrific and overall a
stimulant for pure joy. thanks to all who have said good things about the band
because now i have a neat new addition to my collection. and for all those who
have a problem with this not being davecentric: sorry for buggin ya.


Posted By: Adam P Henne <AHENNE@drew.edu>
Time/Date: 5:15 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: some tape dates

hey everyone, i'm seeking dates for a couple of unmarked shows i've got 
lying around.  they are:
"dave in the studio and live at trax" <--so it was labeled when it came

Side A:  dave solo in studio
best of what's, recently, cry freedom, tripping, song that jane, back you 
up, WWYS, after her, lover lay down, one sweet world, typical situation
Side B:  band live at Trax, with pete
Best of what's, ants, so much to say, warehous, eyes of the maker, one 
sweet world, pay for what you get, lie in our graves.
	some Davetalk that might lend a clue: announcing "pay for what you 
get," he says, "this song is about the hangover you're going to have..."

the other is marked May '92 at Trax-->the word blackberry was on the 
tapecover, but that may have been someone's eccentricity. setlist:
lie in our graves, song that jane, one sweet world, maker, lover lay down, 
satellite, ants->recently, two step, warehouse, jimi thing, so much to 
say, angel from montgomery, tripping billies.
	on jimi thing, and a few other places, boyd is playing through a 
wah-wah peddle, it sounds cool as shit.  anyone?

while i'm asking dumb questions, does anyone have the setlist for the 
migeul valdez benefit handy?  i'm beginning to think my copy is 
incomplete.  anyone, anyone?  bueller?

	adam	


Posted By: BYVR25A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN W ELLIS)
Time/Date: 6:27 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: big head todd email adress?

hey evryone,
   I'm looking for the email adresses for big head todd,
widespred panic, and rusted root. If you could pass along
any info., that'd be cool.
   thanks,
          big head c. 


Posted By: Chardy McEwan <mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu>
Time/Date: 6:47 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: hey people.

hey all who are left on the roof of the Minaret.

hope all is well and groovy like new sneakers.

i got new shoes but they bite. mailorder...couldn't try 'em on...and
they don't fit...i'm still wearing them right now cause i was so
excited...it's sorda like when Calvin ate 8 boxes of Chocolate
Covered Sugar Bombs in order to send away for a beanie cap with a
propeller;..anyway, Calvin thought the hat would make him fly..it
arrived and he was bummed when he anxiously spun the propeller and
didn't lift him off the ground......no, i didn't think new shoes would
make me fly...but....it was a funny cartoon.

where am i? reality comes and goes...crop circles...whales...spiders....
lordy me....wheres my mercedes benz or color t.v. .... ah. who needs
'em, when you gotta' new pair of shoes you can conquer the world.
remember this 80's line " don't waste your money on new set of
speakers, you get more mileage from a cheap pair of sneakers..."
yea. " the new sounds funny but it's still rock n' roll to me."
"....take me home country roooaadsss..." yup. "....what is it lies 
behind the worried eyes of one another..i believe it's Love,Baby.."

somebody put me to bed....


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       Peace and good tidings to all.


Posted By: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Time/Date: 10:16 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: mailing shit

 hey all-- a few people (3 to be exact) told me that my address was unreachable
 for part of yesterday.  I don't know why those people couldn't get to me, but
 if you are trying to send me the form for the rare dave tape tree, or anything
 else , then you may either try my normal address (which appears to be ok now)
  KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU ----- but if for whatever reason, that doesn't work,
  then my other address is:  KOLIVER1@UA1IX.UA.EDU.  That one will work for
  sure.      :)
                      keith


Posted By: Deborah Haeseler <dhaesler@ccnet.com>
Time/Date: 11:002 PM Saturday, December 17, 1994
Subject: SANTAS.ON.THE.NET

Here is a message concerning th esanta stuff so that people may have a better
understanding.  I do have question though for the masses.  I just ran across a
dmb tape that is labeled Columbia, SC.  I know it is not from when they played
here last Feb 1994.  I t seems to be from some type of homecoming party type
thing.  I don't have the set in front of me, but it is far from what i have
heard recently.  Typical situation is entitled Similar Situation, maybe a
mistake, or did dmb call it this previously.  Well if you have any info let
me know.  Finals are over and I have only three more practices until I am outta
here.  Have a great Chrismas break, only 12 days until Charlotte, maybe i
should make up a twelve days until dave song, we'll see.
mark dicus
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Sorry, to my knowledge, there is no way to send e-mail messages that a
corporate sponsor then makes a donation for on the behalf of a charity.

However, if you visit the Web site http://north.pole.org and enter
certain areas (called the Christmas Campaign), several sponsors do make
donations to a few good causes. You have to enter those sites for the
donation to work.

There's an awful rumor calling the e-mail "donations" a scam. Not true.
It's a misunderstanding or possibly some malicious soul made the whole
thing up.  I verified with questions@radio.com. And I'm waiting for an
answer from elfmaster@north.pole.org.

Wouldn't it be nice, though, if a sponsor would do such a thing? (But it
would take a very rich sponsor indeed, what with perhaps 30 million
Internet users.) Fewer people have access to the Web, so the final sum is
more manageable, I guess.

If you'd be kind enough to spread the word, I'd appreciate it. One of the
"it's a scam" notices landed in my mailbox, and I was horrified because i
knew it wasn't true. If you get such a message, please set them straight.
(Send this letter if you want.) The people who put up of north.pole.org
are nonprofit themselves, and they do fine work. Even if the source of
this is little more than someone somwhere along the line misunderstanding
the difference between e-mail and a Web site, it is a shame to hurt the
reputation of a fine organization.

And pulling Santa's name into this -- that's blasphemy!

Deborah Haeseler

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