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January 17, 1995

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Posted By: 72672.1776@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 12:27 AM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: ummm, crap?

guys, 
        i've just been reminded, through this NPR experience, that MANY DMB 
and OTHER STUDIO EXECUTIVES AND OTHER INSIDIOUS FORCES read the net, as well 
as us cool traders and tapers and talkers.

so, i'm just saying
remember, the internet is a FREE-FOR-ALL.    

take it with a grain of salt, if you wish, but i'd prefer if you took it with 
a lemon as well, and a stiff shot or two.

HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONE!    don't let the The Man get you down...

-dominic "not DeVito" sagolla


Posted By: Uttad@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:30 PM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: encores and putty

ok--- this is keith.....  i could not telnet to my own account, but i can use
my mom's account, right?.... nice screen name ma...  anyway, a few
things........

first, the guy who said 1 song encores were a new thing.......maybe,,,,,,
  well, you may be right, but the case for the birmingham show was this:  his
voice isn't too fucked up, but he hasn't been playing too much recently, and
getting back into the swing of things is one thing, but when he just screams
his head off, according to him, it is nice to have a break before and after
the song, where he doesn't have to do anything on either side of the
screaming......  so i said, how about #34, 'ween for an encore..... he said
that would be cool, but he was happy with the way it turned out, and i was
too i guess, so i didn't have shit to say to that.

another thing:  i had someone try the melting silly putty thing, and it's
possible they make it different than they used to.... she couldn't do it.....
which either means that she didn't have it hot enough, or they make it
different....   whichever......
i guess the true answer to that is, .... its already melted..
it's solid form occurs when you leave it out for 3 months or so.,.......
havn't figured out the gas form though......

all for now..... i'll be here for three more days... so my address will be my
moms until the third..... then i go back to school... :(

i got three copies of the calvin&hobbes book.
     weird.... ever since i got that calvin./hobbes tattoo, people
give me the books all the time......

maybe ill get a tattoo of Grant or Franklin next....... oh wait..
who's on the $500, kennedy....?    maybe a tattoo of kennedy, next

oh---- and i made my mom a tape from various shows.... her favourites......
pay for...., say goodbye, and halloween......
cool....



keith

koliver1@ua1vm.ua.edu
koliver1@ua1ix.ua.edu
uttad@aol.com


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:25 PM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: NYE !11 :-)

First the setlist (hope this deonoesn't get posted like 6 million times)

SEt I-Two Step/Best of What's Around/Granny :-)/What Would U Say/Get In 
Line/Say GOodbye/Satellite (at which point i got a beer)

Set II-#36/Ants/True REflections/Song that Jane/Dancing 
Nancies/Warehouse/Jimi/Lie In Our Graves :-)/Recently

Encore:Tripping Billies

Some highlites: the songs i put little happy faces next to were tops. 
Hadn't heard eitehr in a while. Get In Line was incredible as usual. Dave 
cam eout smoking a cigar right before midnite and did a little countdown 
right befoer the started 36.
Met Shannon Worrell after the show, which was killer, she seemed a little 
suprised that poeple had heard of her music and/or recognized her. Very, 
very nice and pleasure to talk to. 

Downsides: Recently was kinda uninspired for a show especcialy like NYE, 
nothing really random said or done in it. Someone got there tape deck 
taken. The lines fro beer/mixed drinks were LONG and the bartenders were 
easily influenced by cash, which i ran out of after the 54 ticket.

I did not tape, but i know it will surface soon enough. The rarities is a 
little behind schedule, but will be done by the time teh rest of youal 
get back from break, i have to leave tommorrow.
 anyways, latr....

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Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 4:35 PM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: Happy New Year!

Happiest of New Years to everyone still around-
	Just a few things.  A brief grovel - I'm looking for last night's
show and have a few decent tapes to trade if anyone would like to help me
out.  I was not among the fortunate people who had the opportunity to be
there.
	Second - a quick personal to Dominic Sagolla - I'm sorry I didn't 
send you the cash or the tape(s), but I am soooo strapped right now.  
Will it still be possible to pick up a copy of the CD and that show of 
your band in a few weeks?  Thanks -
	Lastly, I hope you are all happy and healthy in 1995.  I too hope 
Dave learns how to Email, for all of our benefit.

		Turning up the tunes-

			Steve


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:23 PM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: happy new year & comments on nothing in particular

"Catherine E. Hobbs" <chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> decides:

>GINGRICH and friends in congress are talking seriously of ending public 
>funding of both NPR and PBS ... ceasing the PUBLIC aspect of these radio 
>and tv stations, forcing them to become private entities.  
>IMHO - this sucks ass

Well, everything newt does pretty much sucks ass. hee hee. anyway, though i
don't listen to the radio, i understand the importance of at least keeping
SOME quality stuff (or stuph if you swing it that way, kinda like phishnet
stockings) on the airwaves.  At least in the big apple (bleh), radio is a
string of cheese rap and top 40 throwaways.

Tagans@aol.com says:

>Lisner Auditorium was packed with a lot of teeny-boppers who were dropped
off
>by there parents.  I saw seven junior high schoolers get out of mommy's

NOW WILL YOU BELIEVE ME???? No one would believe me about the 12 year old
girls at Roseland... NO ONE!  And now they've (practically) infiltrated
Virginia!!! AHHH HA HA HA HA HA!  Okay, so it's not very funny, but if we
can't laugh at the downfall of everything sacred, what can we laugh at?

Glad to see everyone had fun at the shows, though my crappy system hasn't
gotten in anything in regards the NYE show... i myself attended 3 phish
shows, and couldn't help but notice how much fun i was having, and you know
what? the variety of songs really added to the excitement. you didn't know
what they were gonna play next, where at the next dave show i'm pretty damn
sure that they won't break out into Spotlight... and i bet dave didn't fly
around in a hot dog last night throwing ping pong balls at the crowd... :-)


happy new year, minarets.

ben...

just another memo from the cellar,

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Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 6:13 PM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: nye setlist & timings

Here goes

Set I
Two-Step                    1:23-8:56
Best Of What's Around       8:56-15:09
Granny                      16:43-20:55
What Would You Say          22:08-26:46
Get In Line                 28:14-33:09
Say Goodbye                 34:16-41:48
Satellite                   42:51-47:34

Set II
#36                         3:02-12:07
Ants Marching               12:07-18:40
True Reflections            19:49-26:29
Song That Jane Likes        27:05-30:55
Dancing Nancies             31:45-41:13
Warehouse                   41:13-49:30
Jimithing                   51:09-1:05:37
Lie In Our Graves           1:06:36-1:14:55
Recently                    1:15:23-1:24:35

Encore
Tripping Billies            1:27:15-1:32:38



Great show.  Many highlights : Granny and Lie In Our Graves, of course.  
I think the flute solo in Say Goodbye has improved dramatically. 
Jimithing had a cool jam & Tripping Billies had the old intro :).
It was my first time hearing Get In Line and I think its a great tune.

Happy New Year To All,
Gray


--
I'm not from here, I just live here.


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 9:54 PM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: safety pops, wet socks, and chicken salad (shake dat booty)

guava. what teh heck is guava, anyway? 
i mean.. iknow it's a fruit, and i've seen 
guava juice, 
guava other stuffs
but dammit?!?!? i swear i've never seen
a real guava in my life. 
they don't have them at
kroger.                                  

On Sun, 1 Jan 1995 NebuIous@aol.com wrote:

> gotten in anything in regards the NYE show... i myself attended 3 phish
> shows, and couldn't help but notice how much fun i was having, and you know
> what? the variety of songs really added to the excitement. you didn't know
> what they were gonna play next, where at the next dave show i'm pretty damn
> sure that they won't break out into Spotlight... and i bet dave didn't fly
> around in a hot dog last night throwing ping pong balls at the crowd... :-)

but i certainly must say that granny and lie in our graves were both 
unexpected twists. nice groovin songs. bouncin and shakin, huggin and 
singing. fun fun fun. 

should i do the one post, duel-show review of the last two night's shows?

hm. ok. i will. 
as dear boofy and i decided at nye last night (this chain of events, and 
all time sequences could get kinda sketchy, so work with it as best as 
you can 'inside my head the noise, chatter chatter chatter...')
ok. (rewind-----<---------<------)
as dear boofy and i decided at nye last night, we would have gladly been 
satisfied having paid for our bender tickets if the band had played the 
first 5 songs they played on nye, the night-before... it would have made 
it all worthwhile. but if we hadn't gone to the bender show, we wouldn't 
have been elyte enought to meet the illustrous (and fellow gibran lover) 
dave toole, the lolli-pop man, and his group of cronies who we ended up 
spending about the next two days with (we almost didn't make it, that 
mild three-car incedent out at lake anna was a near clencher, but we 
still love you dave, we do. give jamie and josh our hugs....).

on bender: nice to meet mr.devito, who thoughtfully brought me amish 
oatmeal cookies (minus the raisins, i hate raisins). this arena was huge 
(i think a sold out 6,000 seater can accurately be described as so) and 
there were many many young people. many. (did i mention that yet?) MANY!
i mean, i'm not 62 or anything, but as an example, i saw a 10yr old there.
point made.
 the crowd wasn't very respectful of the music, which was what upset me 
most about this show, i felt as though they had come to the show to 
party, rather than to hear the songs. (which gave them an immediate one 
check on my shit list) the intro to satellite was nice to hear. 
unfortunately (as usual during satellite) i took my bathroom break. while 
in there, and the first riffs of satellite began, i was waiting in line 
when i heard an eath-shattering shreik!!!!! (hark?) a cry of the song 
'satellite' was scre3amed from stall #6, a flush then ensued, and a 
screaming arm flailing girl ran from the stall withought having pulled or 
buttoned up her jeans. she continuted to scream as her half-naked clad 
body ran out the ladies room door tugging on her zipper still screaming 
bloody murder for her favorite song was on. that about sums up the bender 
scene. but it rocked cause afterward buford and i dug around in the rocks 
after the show and we found some peachy-keen stones.. ehe hee....then we 
headed out to the lakehouse.

oh boy. the lakehouse. 
fun. that's all i have to say. fun fun fun. 
from the malleable 'key' incedent, to the
interracial donnuts. i had a blast.

on nye: it was great to meet joe and his friend john, who drove down from 
buffalo (yes pholks,buffalo!) new york. wow. 
nye rocked. chardy, less, bonaaaaaa, wade.... many friends were there to 
bring the new year in with. 
gray and i got there before the doors opened, and when we went to go 
through security they just let us through thinking we were in the band. 
no ticket flashing or anything.
the show was amazing. the first five songs were total euphoria (and i don't 
use that term lightly, folks...) dancing nancies was nuts, and jimithing was 
about 15 mins long. it was great to talk to shannon worrell for awhile, 
she's a really nice person who's very friendly and down to earth. she 
hugged me at lest three times and she was totally flabbergasted at people 
beign familiar with her music. one of the funniest things was the guy who 
accosted gray after the show. 
and of course, chicken salad at the diner finished off the perfect end to 
the perfect evening. 

quote of the weekend:
 by buford, 'yunno clare? we're on the same cruise ship in different 
cabins. and we're chillin by the pool smoking marlboro lights and drinkin 
out of coconuts.' but then again, james brown kicks ass. 

love to all
and a happy new year...
'god i'd love to turn this little blue world upside down...'
listen to much music, and read _the hunting of the snark_.

love light and jubilance, 
clare emily

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Posted By: Tagans@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:51 PM Sunday, January 1, 1995
Subject: Corrections and Hopes

Nothing major, but the show on the 30th was at Bender arena, not Lisner as I
wrote. I was there, I don't know why I wrote the wrong venue.
Some people have said there is absolutely no way to tape the shows with the
Richmond Orchestra.  Well, were there's a will, there's a way.  My brother
and I have gotten patted down, been through metal detectors, and even had
tapes removed from my body while still getting a DAT into a show where taping
was banned.  If anyone has good flat mikes, the place will probably be so
quiet the tape would turn out great.  That's how the Birchmere show from this
August was taped.  Somehow that show must get out.
  Lastly, any chance on Dave coming to Ithaca, or anywhere in central New
York this spring?  There are many fans at Cornell, and other than the HORDE,
the band hasn't been anywhere near us in at least a year and a half.  Twice
in 10 months shows have been cancelled, once at Cornell and once in
Rochester.  Just hoping.  
                                              --Jeremy


Posted By: 72672.1776@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 12:32 AM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Gray is the man

first of all, i'd like to hail D. Gray Proulx as Mr. Cool of 1995 for posting 
not only the list, but the TIMES.    for all of us who couldn't make it to the
show, it was cool to see that #36 was over 9 minutes long!

of course, there are 364 more days for someone else to take Gray's place...

;)

anyways, back to business, and Dave:  i'm looking for the date and venue of a 
show he did with Tim.   he went on after Shannon (i assume Worrell), and my 
tape has:

o OSW->> Intro
o Satellite
o Recently
o Typical
o Minarets
o Nancies
o Stream [Tim's]
o Pay4

on it.    Tim RIPS it up on this tape.    the OSW->> Intro was not a typo; he 
goes right into OSW and ends on the Intro riff.    pretty kewl.

a note to Steve: i'd be happy to TRADE for Sixteen Feet's a capella show on 
12/10/94 (including 2001->> Ants), but you'll have to send cash for our CD.   
it can surely wait, though.   we have plenty!

well, back to Sunday Night SciFi...

-anyoneotherthanme

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read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
read.    listen to dave.    nap.    read clare's .sig.    eat.
read.   read.   listen to dave.   hear dave.    write.   read.

repeat until you are content and dreaming (_I_ have been)...
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Posted By: perry@nic.com
Time/Date: 1:07 AM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Show Crowd

Happy New Year All,
	I think its really funny that everyone is seeing a change in the 
DBM crowd...I think I was the oldest person (22) at Roseland NY  standing by 
the stage.I was surronded by a sea of braces and plad....

	Not really that there is anything wrong with this but there is a 
certain maturity level missing durring the show... The noise levels are 
very high...and durring the slower songs the noise levels can be annoying 
and somewhat overbearing...

	Just my $.02..

If anyone taped the 30th show it seemed amazing I'd love to get a copy if 
you have the time...


Good Luck in your New Year..


Perry


Posted By: frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 2:22 AM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Re: Show Crowd

On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Perry Fatuova wrote:

>        I think I was the oldest person (22) at Roseland NY  standing by 
> the stage.I was surronded by a sea of braces and plad....
> 
> 	Not really that there is anything wrong with this but there is a 
> certain maturity level missing durring the show...


	I must certainly agree that there is a maturity level missing at
some of the shows.  However, I don't think that is can be attributed solely
to the younger audience.  At the last DMB show I went to, my friends and
I, all around 17, were practically the only one's not jumping into
each other like a bunch of fools.  Just goes to show you that some of the 
older audience can act immature too...


							-Brian


Posted By: elash@gateway.us.sidwell.edu
Time/Date: 10:19 AM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Re: Bender Happenings (the short version)

alright I'm only going to mention this one more time but the Bender crowd 
was terrible.  does anyone else wish that all the twelve year olds and 
asses would stay at home. I wish the good old days of small crowds 
was back.  Christmas song was terrific but half the crowd was only 
there to here UTTAD stuff.  The jam wasworth hearing. Also some very 
insightful thoughts sprang to mind about electrons valence shells and 
fall back again. munch.


Posted By: Uttad@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:00 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Re: Show Crowd

>>I think I was the oldest person (22) at Roseland NY  standing by 
>>the stage.I was surronded by a sea of braces and plad....
>>Not really that there is anything wrong with this but there is a 
>>certain maturity level missing durring the show...

>I must certainly agree that there is a maturity level missing at
>some of the shows.  However, I don't think that is can be >attributed solely
to the younger audience.  At the last DMB show I >went to, my friends and I,
all around 17, were practically the only >one's not jumping into each other
like a bunch of fools.  Just goes >to show you that some of the older
audience can act immature >too...

yea...but see, its not the point that the younger people are at dmb shows
jumping into each other.  it is more the point that, there are many more
younger people at the shows.   AND it is also the point that the crowd (as a
whole) is getting irritating---jumping everywhere, etc.  if you want to take
it even further, in atlanta, and in birmingham, i did not see too many
younger DRINKING people who weren't acting like assholes.  but before i get a
lot of messages saying, "hey , i m 16 and i was ripped, and im not an
asshole", just think about how many ways we can look at this..... i was in
the south both nights..... i was comparing the audiences to audiences like
when i saw dmb in oct of 1993, and so on... there's sometyhing you cannot
really do.  

i think they have gotten worse, and i think they have gotten younger, and i
think they have gotten _way_ less respectful, but thats just the way it is...
      some people like to go and get drunk and go to dmb shows and hop up and
down.......some people don't.         

its just too bad winger isn't touring anymore.

seriously, i know they enjoy themselves when they hop up and down..... what i
don't understand is this:  why are all these damn freshman in high school who
hop up and down in the front row, always over 6'5"  what is happening to the
youth of america that is causing them all to be taller than me and in the
front row, and giving them the desire to hop up and down!!!!!

whats in the water

serious questions from under the table....

keith


Posted By: Uttad@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:09 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Re: safety pops, wet socks, a...

>i saw a 10yr old there.
>point made.

in birmingham, i saw 4 or 5 carloads of little pudgy-cheeked dreams dropped
off at boutwell auditorium..... i didn't keep the official count as i was
enthraled with my smoking cigarette, but i did see that one car was replete
with 11 year olds  (no, not sarcastic this time, .... 11-- really 11)..
 mommy's instructions penetrated the bond i had with my camel as i glanced
over to see that the mommy in question looked no older than I.  oooo i'm not
62 either, but AT LEAST MY MOM IS CLOSE.  shit...  

where's the lakehouse, i need another cigarette

keith


Posted By: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:58 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Screen Saver

The Screen Saver is a series of pictures of the band members
flashed aroudn the screen randomly. The pictures are interesting,
good faces, great colors, suprisingly good quality, fun, and
better than those damned flying windows and rotating "mystify"
line things.


     Ellis "of Lemuria" Godard   jeg5s@virginia.edu
       P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA, 22903
  Graduate Program in Sociology, University of Virginia
FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digest
     Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...


Posted By: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:01 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Anyone Tape the Video?

If anyone has the "What would you say" video on tape (esp if
you're in Cville, or Central VA at least), I'd love to borrow and
see it. 

To remind, this was filmed at GA Theater, right?

Ellis

P.S. GO SEE DAY BY THE RIVER!! Formerly of Miami, now out of
tAthens, I just spent time with their manager (Reis Baron) and am
now listening to their 2-year-old disc, and its great! All those
that think/thought Rusted Root or Solar Circus or Widespread are
the shit should find this disc. I have a business address and
phone for their week-old Athens base if anyone wants the disc or
a booking! Trust me; you won't regreat it!!

     Ellis "of Lemuria" Godard   jeg5s@virginia.edu
       P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA, 22903
  Graduate Program in Sociology, University of Virginia
FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digest
     Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...


Posted By: BME2@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:46 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: I love NPR

       Someone has got to get me that tape of npr.  I always listen to it on
the way home ffrom work, and I do agree that it is probably the best thing on
the radio today.  But to think that DMB and ROOT amde it on NPR blows my
mind, I  have even more respect for the program.  So if someone out there by
any chance taped the show  I would love to trade.  I have tons of  root
(including thier NYE show two nights ago), dmb blues travler, and much much
more.

                                                             bwb


Posted By: jcdavis@wam.umd.edu
Time/Date: 4:30 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: New Year's Eve Bash: 36 dancing jimi's lying in our granny's, saying goodbye.

God....what a show..
I just have to say that I really really had a wonderful time...One of the 
best new year's that I have had in a long time. Full of surprises...seing 
friends that I have not seen in a long time....Hearing songs that I have 
not heard in a long time...Surprised to not meet anyone on minarets...I 
guess I din't look hard enough..sorry I missed you all. Felt very 
underdressed..Felt very silly that I didn't know It was semi-formal..I 
was really excited to hear two-step...As soon as I saw Boyd place his 
fiddle in git-position I screamed out! TWO-STEP!.....noone believed me...

The flute jam in say-goodbye was cosmic...sent me flying...it's my 
favorite song...I spent the night screaming for spotlight...I felt bad 
later because once when I started screaming for spotlight a girl next to 
me heard me and said "yeah! SATTELITE!" and I recoiled in horror and said 
"NO!! Not SATTELITE! SPOTLIGHT!" and she just looked at me blankly like, 
"no..where at a dave MATTHEWS show.., I don't know where you are.."
and I just sighed and swayed along to the crowd as the opening riff of 
satellite sent the girls screaming...

ah well..at least he played lie in our graves...and #36...and a long Jimi 
thing.. Thanks for a great evening everyone...
Oh yeah...3rd street IS really good coffee...great omellette


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 6:53 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: It's time to play... MYSTERY TAPE THEATER!

okay kids, time to break out all your tapes just to help little ol' me
i-denti-fy one of 'em, 'kay?



here we go...

the setlist is as follows:

2 step
lover lay down
the maker
recently
blue water
song that jane likes
jimi thing

(this is where my tape flips...)

nancies
minarets
angel from montgomery
warehouse
so much to say
watchtower
satellite

STUFF: at the beginning of two step, dave goes (more or less) 'this is a
BEACH song, we've been at the BEACH, this is a BEACH song... helllooooooo'
pretty wacky stuff... he talks about the beach some more, especially, i
believe, durng watchtower.

peter was still in the band at this time, which i guess is pretty obvious
from the setlist.

besides that there is very little to say about it except that recently is
really kickin' and during jimi he introduces everyone (though my tape gets
cut before he can announce the whole band), and each member in turn takes a
solo.

if anyone can help me, uh, send me mail & stuff... :)
a 2 step / lover beginning to a show is probably pretty rare, so that might
help by itself.

i feel like breakin out sumthin new... not that i might not go back to lil'
jacky k. if i get bored with ee...

ben

just another memo from the cellar,

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Posted By: BYVR25A@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 7:20 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: dmb sweet home ala. wanted

hey-
 I'm looking for a show containing dmb's cover of sweet home 
alabama. if anyone has it, please write me.
               -big head c


Posted By: pnut@eden.com
Time/Date: 7:24 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: Root Mail

For anyone interested:
Rusted Root's e-mail mailing list.

To subscribe, send e-mail message to: listproc@envirolink.org with the 
contents (NOT the subject)  SUB rust-tribe _firstname_ _lastname_
SUB rust-tribe mail ack.  To post, send mail to rust-tribe@envirolink.org
Problems or questions to: Jesse@envirolink.org
'bye


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 10:24 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: new graphics browser online

Check out the homepage people.  More goodies coming soon!

-Ben

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Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 11:11 PM Monday, January 2, 1995
Subject: indecision/echos farm

did anyone out there go to the indecidion/echos farm show at fry springs 
on saturday.
i'd love to know how it was.

gray


--
I'm not from here, I just live here.


Posted By: ChadDK@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:06 AM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: DMB on radio...

hey all,

was just cruising home on the saw mill pkwy in NY and heard WHAT WOULD YOU
SAY on K-Rock, WNEW-FM, 102.7!!!! first time i've heard any dave on a radio
station in new york other than NPR, etc...
has anyone else in the area or other areas for that matter heard them on a
station as big as K-Rock???

update on those that i owe Irving Plaza show and SAY GOODBYE progression to -
they'll be to you within 3 weeks. sorry for the delay.
holidays and all - a lot of traveling to different relatives, etc!!!!

so - HAPPY & HEALTHY NEW YEAR!!!!
chad


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:12 AM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: you're forgetting to fly darlin, when you sleep....

hi hi and love to all.
hugs to all.
happy new year cheer to all.
hee hee i'm so giddy. i'm such a silly girl.

i just wanted to let everyone know about an awesome band.
they're called 'scratchin jones' and they're based out of my old hometown 
of dear richmond, va.
they are amazing.... three guys.
one on percussion (drums, but not the carter kind.. bongo drums, KICKASS 
drums) and one gentleman on guitar and another on bass guitar. quite 
cool. they play some covers (last show i saw them at they played a a 
couple phish covers, cavern, and they dedicated 'my sweet one' to me.. 
awwww.. isnt' that sweet? [clare blushes] and i remember in particular 
one awesome widespread cover though the name of the song escapes my 
memory at present time.)
regardle3ss, they kick ass... quite intense and amazing... and one of the 
memebers (who else but the percussionist/bongo-boy, chardy, himself!!!) 
so if you're in richmond on thursday nights, go down to awful arthurs and 
check them out.. i'm sure chardy could post some of their other dates if 
someone requests so ever so politely and offers him some kind of bribe.. 
maybe a cigarette... or soem coffee or a kind veggie burrito.

hugs and light, love and jubilance, 
being domestic...
clare emily

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Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 12:44 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Tree of NYE?

Hey there everyone-
	I made a feeble attempt to grovel yesterday for the New Year's 
show, and would like to trade for it(even though I only have a few nice 
tapes), but would be willing to tree it if someone would set me up with a 
nice seed.  Write back if anyone feels like helping me and others out.

		Thanks in Advance-

		Steve


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:35 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Jumping up and down.....

....is cool if its done respectful.....

Remeber when everyone at Trax would jump up and down to the Two Step 
rythm. Kinda like that Phish thing when everyone drops on the floor. Or 
boot stamping to ants....well anyway.....
jumping up and down is ok if you know why you're doing it. I jumped up 
and down a bit when dave pulled out Help Myself at Bender, and i think 
everyone around me thought i was nuts. 
I miss being 25 feet away from the stage the maximum distance you could 
be, but you cant play the Flood Zone forever. 
I dont expect everyone to know every song, and i realize its kinda hard 
to keep an entire auditorium of 5000 quite for xmas song, but some in the 
crowd, regardless of age or intoxication, seem like they dont come for 
the music, nor respect the band. 
	Its turnig into a huge frat party insteda of a huge following....

but then again NYE ROCKED!!!! so it made up for it....

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Posted By: THowl91834@aol.com
Time/Date: 2:36 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: DMB on the radio

Hey all.
I heard DMB on 99x in Atlanta for the first time early last week.  The funny
part about it is the DJ said " we don't know who this band is but they sold
out the Fox so if I get some requests I will play them."  For those of you
who don't know about 99x, they play mainly MTVish and early 80's cheese. The
next couple days I heard WWYS four or five times a day.

Just a scarry fact.
Trey


Posted By: bullard@coral.bucknell.edu
Time/Date: 2:40 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Trades

Hello to everyone who has to be back at school this early.  It is 
freezing here in Pa. and I have plans to stay indoors as much as 
possible.  Anyone who would be interested in trading some tapes I would 
love to hear from.  I have only DMB, but I am looking to pick up other 
stuff.  Hope to hear from Lots of you.  

Rusty
bullard@coral.bucknell.edu


Posted By: morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu
Time/Date: 3:01 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Bender Show

                      Subject:                              Time:  3:54 PM
  OFFICE MEMO         Bender Show                           Date:  1/3/95
I've got to put my little bit in about the Bender show.  The crowd surfing has 
been covered, the young persons topic has been covered, the talking during the 
slower songs has been covered.  Now I've got to add my little beaf about the 
guy behind me who obviously knew Dave Matthews well because he friggin' 
screamed the lyrics to every song.  He was (I think) a little intoxicated 
(there was a small bottle of jack daniels at his feet), which is ok by me, but 
he was singing way loud right behind me.  I mouth the word myself (or at worst 
mumble the lyrics), but this guy was pretty anoying.

Anyway, I found myself closing my eyes so I wouldn't have to get pissed off 
even more watching all the people crowd surf and sit on each others shoulders.  
Closing your eyes is a good way to get into the music and absorb it all 
anyway.  (But you don't get to watch Dave dance or Boyd grin when he jams) 
(Damn I wish I could dance like Dave!)

Also, I wasn't impressed with the acoustics of the venue.  But, the days of 
the Bayou and similar places may be past.

Sorry if this contained some negativity, but I had to vent a little.

--Morgan


Posted By: btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu
Time/Date: 3:14 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Re: new graphics browser online

Thanks to Kimberly for pointing out that while I did announce the recent 
changes to the homepage, I didn't mention where it can be found . . .

On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, KIMBERLY J. BURESH wrote:
> Sorry to bug you about this because I know you've probably been asked 
> this 2000 times, but what is the address for the homepage?

I'm sorry I forgot to mention it: the homepage can be found at:

		http://netspace.org/DMB

-Ben

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Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:23 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: the teeny bopper invasion of dmb

im not quite sure that im ready to join the bandwagon and write a 
complaint about youngin's at the shows.
although, obnoxious fans are well, obnoxious.
but i was thinkin' instead that its really funny, cool, and scary (all at 
once) that DMB might be the next NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK (cause y'all are 
definately making it sound like the kids are just as stir crazy) ...  now 
please dont think im comparing the bands musically (im 
not looking for any bickering)
atleast we donthave to worry about improving the lil' ones 
taste.. just their ettiquette.
play  a little .. never hurts to remember we're all kids
catherine


Posted By: Dave_P._Anderson@csgi.com
Time/Date: 3:33 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Young Benderians (dec 30)

About the young crowd that Dave is attracting.  It is more of a fad for them. 
They don't really love the music, just the fact that it's cool to go to a Dave
concert.  Either Dave gets really rich and we live with all the crowd surfing
etc. or the fad dies out, and we support Dave and all his music in peace.
  I could tell that the 'kids' were talking, not sitting back and soaking in
the music.  Hopefully (for those of us who miss the small concerts where we
could chat with Dave and not be molested*) the teeny-boppers will dish out
enough cash and move on.  The only thing that could keep those kids is if Dave
put out another CD in the next few months, but then again if they start
writing again, who cares about the teeny-boppers!

later,
Dave Anderson

* I tried to visit with Dave before the show (Dec 30) just to say hi, (I met
him on a ferry ride this summer) and two guys, I don't know what they were
security or press, just grabbed me and pointed me towards the stairs.  I
wasn't even drunk then!  That little incedent really scared me.

anyone out there with a tape of DEC 30?  I have  8-28-1994 and10-12-94 for
trade. <- about 10-12-94, anyone have a set list?


Posted By: TerrJS72@aol.com
Time/Date: 3:35 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Re: Anyone Tape the Video?

On 2 Jan. 95 Ellis <jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu> wrote:

>>If anyone has the "What would you say" video on tape (esp if
>>you're in Cville, or Central VA at least), I'd love to borrow and
>>see it. 

>>To remind, this was filmed at GA Theater, right?

Actually, the video was taped at the Fox Theater in Boulder, CO on Friday 17,1
994. I went to the Thurs. night show and Dave announced that they would be
taping footage for their first video the next afternoon, and for everybody to
show up for the taping. Of course, I could still be wrong, I haven't seen the
video yet, I have this allergic reaction to eMpTyV. So as far as I know, it
was the Fox and not the GA.

John


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 3:51 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: I can quote messages, and i will i will

CEC SAYS:

>but i certainly must say that granny and lie in our graves were both 
>unexpected twists. nice groovin songs. bouncin and shakin, huggin and 

Listen Clare... WAS THERE OR WAS THERE NOT A GIANT HOT DOG THAT DAVE & THE
BOYS RODE AROUND IN THROWING PING PONG BALLS AT THE CROWD AND PLAYING "AULD
LANG SYNE" AT THE MARRIOTT?????

heh heh

one of the dominics says:

>anyways, back to business, and Dave:  i'm looking for the date and venue of
a 
>show he did with Tim.   he went on after Shannon (i assume Worrell), and my 

wow what odd luck, as i heard this for the first time out of emily's
collection on the train to boston! hee hee. it's 7/26/93 I believe.  Wow,
that's really weirdo that you just asked that now... there is some funny dave
talk on that right before OSW, as you can tell how little dave knows about
music theory, because he's talking to tim and going "this is in Eb or, well,
Cm? there's a C something in there... a C something... and maybe the song is
in Bb" it's hilarious...

Frenkel <frenkel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> says:

>I, all around 17, were practically the only one's not jumping into
>each other like a bunch of fools.  Just goes to show you that some of the 
>older audience can act immature too...

Oh most definately. most of you probably know by know that i'm 16, and i'd
say i have much more respect for others around me at shows than most of the
college kids do.  this isn't to say that there AREN'T 12 year old girls
screaming for 'satellite', but just because you aren't in college doesn't
mean you aren't mature...

Ellis "of Lemuria" Godard   jeg5s@virginia.edu says:

>The Screen Saver is a series of pictures of the band members
>flashed aroudn the screen randomly. The pictures are interesting,
>good faces, great colors, suprisingly good quality, fun, and
>better than those damned flying windows and rotating "mystify"
>line things.

Hmmmmm, I have the screen saver, and i'd say it's pretty much a piece of
crap.  It's not like they charged $50 for it, but it was definately below my
expectations... They have one picture of the whole band.  Then they flash cut
outs of each band members face.  Repeat this.  There is the screen saver.
 Nothing to write him about.


That is all for now.  If you've read this whole message, send me mail saying
"I can't believe i read the whooooole thing!!" It will make me feel
appreciated. huh huh.



ben

just another memo from the cellar,

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Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 4:11 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Re: DMB on the radio

> 
> Hey all.
> I heard DMB on 99x in Atlanta for the first time early last week.  The funny
> part about it is the DJ said " we don't know who this band is but they sold
> out the Fox so if I get some requests I will play them."  For those of you
> who don't know about 99x, they play mainly MTVish and early 80's cheese. The
> next couple days I heard WWYS four or five times a day.
> 
> Just a scarry fact.
> Trey
> 
Trey,

Do you live in atlanta or were you just here for the show?

BTW, you are right about 99X, it started out pretty cool, playin'
lots of alternative stuff and what not, then, all of a sudden, here
comes resurrection sunday (god, what a terrible show) and hours of 
smashing pumpkins, green day, and various other pre-teen idols...
I can only hope (and pray) that 99X and MTV don't turn DAMABA into 
just another pop and go...if you know what i mean.

Much Grass,
Shug


Posted By: magar@knox.edu
Time/Date: 4:11 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject:

Could someone please let me know the venue of the following show:  
11/17/92?  

I don't know how I feel about all these reported teenagers at the show 
over the weekend.  On the one hand, it saddens me that Dave is such a 
faddy type thing now and I hope it doesn't hurt the band by driving away 
people who really dig him.  On the other hand, some teenagers have pretty 
advanced musical tastes.  My sis is 17 and a senior in high school and 
is really into Phish and the Dead and DMB.  Of course, she is able to 
appreciate the music and not the coolness of listening to them.  
Hopefully it will all fade away.  

The new disc, BTW, is on sale at MusicLand for $10.99.

Melissa 
magar@knox.edu


Posted By: @uunet.uu.net:dcez!dinatale
Time/Date: 4:40 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: new address

I just found out my boss just changed our internet provider at work 
resulting in a change of address.  I was formerly < jdinatal@capcon.net > 
and now my current address is < dinatale@dcez.com >.  For those on the 
DMB tree 11/11/94 - please take note.


To:  Big Head c
 
I lost all of my old e-mails - could you send me your address.


Also if anybody is still reading - How the hell do I subscribe to this 
list again?

Jim


Posted By: THowl91834@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:56 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: DMB trades + minarets.net

I would love to trade with you.  Send you list and I'll send mine.

Here's the address for DMB mailing list.  minarets@moose.uvm.edu

later-)
Trey
THowl91834@aol.com


Posted By: pdquinn@nyx.cs.du.edu
Time/Date: 7:35 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: teeny bobers

The under twenty-one crowd is getting a very bad rap.

Don't blame us for the behavior of those, young and old, who have heard a 
song from UTTAD and decide to use a DMB concert as an excuse to get 
drunk.  Dave has a very large and loyal following among minors who go to 
see a DMB concert for the music.  It is stupid and dangerous to 
stereotype an entire generation.  I have been to several dave concerts 
and seen people acting like morons who are well into twenties and 
thirities.

Anyway, on the concert front I here the Big Head Todd and Dave Matthews 
are planning on playing three dates at Reds Rocks Amp., thats about 27,000 
tickets.  Red Rocks is one of the greatest places in the nation to see 
a concert.  However, this is very unconfirmed.

Speaking of rumors, I heard from a relitive in Virginia the idea for "Say 
Goodbye" came from incident that occured between Dave and Peter, which 
resulted in Peter leaving the band.  Sounds very fictional, can anyone 
confirm.......


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 8:04 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Re: danger: computer information enclosed!

Tommy, I am so god damn sorry, I don't have your address right now on 
e-mail nor do I have your home adress(Tommy Burnett?).  It got lost in 
the shuffle of my stuff when I came home from school.  will you please 
forgive me and give me your address again and I will fedex your tapes so 
you will get them in one day.  Again, if I knew you, you could give me a 
sock in the kisser because of my irresponsibility.  Hey, and for all you 
out there, including emily(not clare emily) but you can include her too, 
where are you?  I would love to hear about the shows you saw over NYE.  I 
am still pissed about not seeing them, my friends are probably pissed off too
that I couldn't go.  Sorry Pad and Jeff.  It sounds like the two shows on 
the 30th and 31st were amazing.  I just felt that it was necessary to 
spend some time with my mother.  Hey emily, I'm not leaving for the 
semester at sea until the 25th, and my buddy and I are thinkin' about 
making a few road trips, nothing special though, and we might be swingin' 
by Maine.  Is that anywhere near you>  Well it doesn't matter, I'd swing 
by Richmond area anyways.  Well, I'd love to hear about the mischevious 
NYE escapades.  Mine was quite memorable.  
	Saying Goodbye,
		Kyle(some people call me keeley, some don't)


Posted By: MCDW49C@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 8:11 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: 12-29-94 taping

does anyone out there have a copy of the dec 29 show in
charlotte?  i have plenty of stuff to trade, rare stuff,
launch parties, etc.  it was my first show in about 2 years 
and i'd like to get a copy of it somehow....anyways, if you 
got it, let me know......thanks...


Posted By: JsprSkArms@aol.com
Time/Date: 8:34 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: CD boot of 7/30

OK, OK...some of you think it's scummy....but anybody know where I can get  a
copy of the CD boiot from 7/30/94 (Brown's Island)? I've heard there's one
around and as a total collector head I'm dying to get one.

I have many goodies to offer in trade...Promo-only singles of WWYS, Jimi
Thing, European CD and Cassette singles, etc....

Please e-mail me w/ any leads about the CD boot. Thanx.


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 9:20 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: I admit I tried, but didn't like it

At the Charlotte show, I allowed one of my friends talk me
into trying crowd surfing.  I cannot see how people can
enjoy his music with their ass being grabbed and being hit
in the balls.  Do you agree? I got dropped and my ass still 
hurts. Thats what I get for giving into pier (Spelling)
pressure. I also admit I was a bit intoxicated, but not
sloppy.  The extent of my jumping was at the begining of
song #36.  I wasn't 3 feet off the air which youall make it 
sound like some did. As for the tobacco incident, it was a
misunderstanding, and if I saw Dave I would appologise.  Do 
youall think you can forgive my mistakes.
Finally Does anybody have the Raleigh boot with widespread
where Boyd jams with them.  I would also like their set if
possible.
Thanks
Clarke Browne

"Can't we all just get along"


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 10:51 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: Atlanta

To all who know (except that annoying adolescent female in front of me),

What was the setlist for the atlanta show (12/27)?  I, unfortunately, couldn't
rely on my hazy memory due to Much Grass...it pays to carry pen and pencil.
Your help is greatly appreciated, even if it's given late.  

Much Grass,
Shug


Posted By: bmking@mail.wm.edu
Time/Date: 11:33 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: too much joy

anyone going to see the shows in dc by any chance?  fun band.  go if you can.
i am.

i had a dream new years' eve that I died.  I've never died in a dream 
before.  it's freaky, I wouldn't recommend it.

anyone know when the dave video is on for sure or anything?  heard 
'dreamtime' or whate4ver, but I have to sleep.

well, this post is meaningless, so I'll stop.  ben, I read it all.  I'm 
home, and i'm still reading them all.

all all all
goodbye


Posted By: 73261.1133@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 11:47 PM Tuesday, January 3, 1995
Subject: bad manners

although i have been observing through the net for a few months now, this 
is the first 
time i have been prompted to write. i am relatively new to dmb (10 shows in 
two years),but i have been to nearly 100 concerts in the past 15 years. I 
can honestly say
the nye crowd was the rudest and most obnoxious crowd of recent memory 
(which is fairly limited)    i am 29 years old,so i would love to blame it 
on the youngsters, but i had run-ins with assholes of all ages. i believe 
70% of the crowd was there to party with dave being just a background 
band.....i too did not know this was a semi-formal event but i do 
know that when i go see a remarkable band such as dmb,, i like to dress 
casually,  i
already get the undistinguished honor of wearing a suit and tie monday thru 
friday....
it just goes to show that the more people try to act like they have class, 
the less they
actually display.....
       just venting frustrations,,,thanks for listening
                                 august west


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 12:01 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: hmmmm

my location has not been accessible for the past few days, soo here's a late 
assessment of bender aaand nye.

i had a dream that i was one of the lolli-pop clan with a lolli-pop 
eating disorder.  clare-the good witch what'shername, 
boofy-the scarecrow, and i were on a joyous journey to reach the emerald 
marriot.  along the way we encountered the evil key witch with her body 
surfing monkey things.  the evil witch hurled twelve year old girls at 
us. :( but we used our magic safety pops to fend them off with smiles. :)
upon reaching the emerald marriot, we stood before david matthews-the 
wizard of ahhhhhs. .........:)
he rewarded our long journey with a rare and precious setlist and told us 
that all we needed to get home was ...........

just then i was awoken by the annoying twitches and shakes of a sugar 
overdose.  i looked around and saw lolli-pop sticks and wrappers all around.
and there to my surprise was a copy of 'the prophet' by kahlil gibran 
(read it) so i read into the night and pondered if i'd ever be lucky 
enough to return to that wonderful place. 

thanks clare and boofy for the dream inspiration
hugs to you all
 :) dave toole     ....lick     ....lick

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Posted By: kadams@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:45 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Dave in Wall Street Journal!?!

Hey all,
I just erased all 277 messages since Dec. 15, so I don't know if this was 
mentioned, but UTTAD was listed as part of a small (less than 10 or so) 
group of the top releases of 1994 in the Wall Street Journal.  My Dad cut 
it out for me (cool Dad).  Anyway, I have no idea what I did with it, but if I 
find it, I'll let you all know what was said.  I don't remember all the 
other bands listed, but I know Counting Crows was on there and so was 
Smashing Pumpkins.  Hey, it was sometime areound the 17th... so long 
ago. Later...
Katharine

Washington and Lee University


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 2:14 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: Anyone Tape the Video?

no, this was filmed at the fox theater in boulder co...
Dave

On Tue, 3 Jan 1995 jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu wrote:
> To remind, this was filmed at GA Theater, right?
> 
> Ellis
> 
> P.S. GO SEE DAY BY THE RIVER!! Formerly of Miami, now out of
> tAthens, I just spent time with their manager (Reis Baron) and am
> now listening to their 2-year-old disc, and its great! All those
> that think/thought Rusted Root or Solar Circus or Widespread are
> the shit should find this disc. I have a business address and
> phone for their week-old Athens base if anyone wants the disc or
> a booking! Trust me; you won't regreat it!!
> 
>      Ellis "of Lemuria" Godard   jeg5s@virginia.edu
>        P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA, 22903
>   Graduate Program in Sociology, University of Virginia
> FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digest
>      Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...
> 
>


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 2:24 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: usa today

If you still have the chance...go get tuesdays edition of the usa today 
turn to page 6D and promptly begin to vomit. DMB called 'rockers'!?
cool photo though...

bye

Dave


Posted By: WIFOY@DAVIDSON.EDU
Time/Date: 6:02 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Happy Freaking New Year!!!1

    Yes, yes, ya'll.  We can no longer put a 94 on our checks anymore,
one less year before the end of the millenium, which evidently some
people think is the end of the world....

    Hope you folks at NYE had a great time.  I was, as advertised in
McLean grooving to everything.  They dusted off some old stuff and
played one INCREDIBLY long set with much visual effects, which you
folks who see em at Bayou are spoiled by... 
    Ed McCain was great, as usual, and he came out and jammed with
them some on Soulfish and SLWB.  Anyone wondering where Alex was, he
was there too, [how's it going?]  Stuff that e: played, I didn't write
a setlist, but...

everyday syndrome
essence of the problem with cool intro
i don't care
south of the border
don't ask me why
cheri
soulfish [ which they stopped at midnight and picked up later]
smile
spent
acid in your eyes
falling
time will heal me
henry hill
slwb
who do you love
and probably a bunch of stuff I can't remember

ed mccain played for about 45-55 minutes and had a lot of really
wicked jams.

I did bring my taping stuff, but didn't have the right jacks, as
Ryan's DAT was being repaired, so he's spinning me copies of both
bands, and ya'll will know when I'm getting them.. I was the only
taper there, so I'll be in touch.

All you people who live in DC, I love the place.  I stayed a couple of
extra days, and it's a really cool city.  Anyone who will work in mass
transit, look at DC's Metro.  It rocks! [ if only it ran all night, I
wouldn't have had to drive out to the show]

DMB content :

Charlotte did in fact rock!!  Nice minarets jam[ Dave heard it in the
parking lot that afternoon and walked over incognito and hung out and
said something about it in the show.] really good stuff.  Hello to all
those "People by the Board." You know that's a good movie title.
...playing now in your local theatres: "People by the Soundboard," a
classic tale of youth horror in which the main character gets attacked
by a crazed sound manager.  I got to meet the immortal Bagby! I was
stoked. Anyway, sorry to post for so long, but I don't get access that
much.

Trade info:  anyone I'm still trading with, and who has access now, go
ahead and send whatever you've got.  I check my PO Box while I'm gone
and it needs to be filled with your cool tapes!! Anyway, HAPPY NEW
YEAR! Gotta run! Peace, Will

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RUSH remMATTHEWSWEET everythingBIGHEADTODD davematthewsbandBLUESTRAVELER samples
   __  "Will you give your heart to me? Will you tell me where your soul lies? 
  /  \ ...Do you see what I can see? Does the night enchant your soul and set
  |e:| you free? oh, do you see what I can see?" -everything:Dame Tu Corazon?
  \__/ "I can't believe that we would lie in our graves, wond'ring if we had
        spent our living days well"-Dave Matthews Band:Lie in Our Graves
                      Phi Gamma Delta-Davidson(Delta Kappa) 
               wifoy@davidson.edu        iN ReaL lIFe:=will foy'96	
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Posted By: jpederso@d.umn.edu
Time/Date: 10:51 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: What Would You Say VIDEO?

Well, so I was a little out of touch over the holidays, but I was 
astonished to see "What Would You Say" on MTV last night!  Yeah, DMB video!
I hadn't heard that this was a plan or anything.  All of the sudden last 
night I'm hearing something familiar in the background and I look over at 
my TV and their are Dave and the boys on MTV!  Kinda fun.  It was at 1:45 
central time in case anyone was dying to know.  Am I the first to see 
this?  Was this a first?  I thought that I was on top of things, but this 
caught me by suprise!


Posted By: jw115@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 10:53 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: JIM DI NATALE..WHERE ARE YOU??

Sorry to waste bandwidth for all other...

Jim, I would LOVE to trade and have sent several messages all of which
have bounced back to me =(   Please respond and let me know how I can get
in touch with you. We may have to communicate via phone or snail mail...

judy wu
jw115@prism.gatech.edu


Posted By: jw115@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 10:58 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Question about 1/5/92 Athens Show

I am wondering if anyone out there in Minaretsland can help me. I recently
acquired a tape of the 1/5/92 Ga.Theater show in Athens. There is a
keyboard player an someone on harmonica (not popper). Can someone help me
identify?? If you can, maybe I'll toss a tape in the mail for you or we
can trade from my little list..............I'm going to Richmond!!Yippeee!!!


judy wu
jw115@prism.gatech.edu


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 11:32 AM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: well, NYE, from a northerner's pt of view

Hey, hey, hey,
	I know the show was 3 days ago, oops, 4 days ago, but i haven't been  
able to get 'ahold of a computer till now, so, i'd like to throw a few  
comments your way...
	clare and chris...i mean boofy, it was indeed a pleasure meeting you  
both.  I
hope to run into you two many more times to come...why don't you guys visit  
this summer in Jackson Hole, WY?  ski in june, ride a horse, swim in a spring  
fed lake...i'll stop.  

	yeah, yeah, i'm from buffalo, ny.  it took exactly 9.06 to get to the  
marriot, all the while the silver sparrow stalled just as we pulled in...how  
timely.  i don't know 

if anyone stayed in the marriot that night but if they did....elevators that  
go up but
don't go down?  Didn't the wine taste like a wine cooler, and two different  
color tickets????!  gee, there were many times i went up throwing a blue  
ticket in the bar tenders face when i was told i needed a RED  
ticket....arrrrgggh!  

	the show met all of my nye expectations!  what a relief...the last  
show i saw was in Lousiana and it was good, no it was great,  but sort of  
mellow, this show was intense...and fantastic...didn't you guys think NYE  
came and went, i mean the 10, 9, 8...deal?  I thought it was stll 11pm...like  
Dave was pulling my leg..nope.  

	this may be go without saying for most of you, but it was nice to see  
them in one of their home towns playing...and surprisingly, IMHO, the crowd  
was pretty good.  from what clare was saying about bender, i was a bit  
hesitant.  i floated around a bit during the concert, the back the middle,  
sort of the front, and no one
was yelling ants, satelite, their were no 10 year olds, etc....one thing i  
found very, very funny were the over-protective boyfriends...ha, ha...they  
all seemed to have a little string around their girlfriends, like they were  
their bodyguards, not their friends...i think some of them missed out on the  
concert just to keep a close watch on their dates...ha, ha...sorry, i just  
had to mention it, it was a sight to see....well, enough of my endless  
babble, i should have put a clause in my subject like, delete this blah,  
blah, to save your time...i'll stop.

on my way,
joe


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:10 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: Question about 1/5/92 Athens Show

judy..
the keyboard player is 
peter greisar
a member of the band from it's inception until
(i think) march of '93
when his plans took him elsewhere 
than our dear damaba.
it is also he who does the harmonica
(no not on what would you say)
but so much to say.

maybe you might find the FAQ interesting..
you can http to it (the address hence escapes me)
oh shit, hang on... all that guilt, i'll go look it up...
ok.. it's http://netspace.org/DMB
or you can send mail to danial blanchet
djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us


rick gives great x.mas presents.


love and lunch (i' starving!!!!)
clare i-love-the-secret-gig emily

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Posted By: long@wrksys.enet.dec.com
Time/Date: 12:56 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: subscribe

I would like to subscribe to the miling list.
e-mail jcl1885@rit.edu
Jim Long
157a Perkins Rd
Rochester, NY 14623-3347


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 12:57 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: video camera setup @ NYE

i thought pooped, i mean popped into my head earlier this week...what do you  
think they are going to do with the video they shot in rich'd on nye?  that  
could be interesting...or maybe they just taped it for themselves....just  
wondering....

onmywayjoe


Posted By: morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu
Time/Date: 2:19 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Boyd with Allgood

                      Subject:                              Time:  3:54 PM
  OFFICE MEMO         Boyd with Allgood                     Date:  1/3/95
Hey people,
Some person asked about Boyd jamming
with Widespread.  Is this true?  I'd like to hear that.

This reminded me of a question I've been wanting to ask.
  Boyd plays with Allgood (a southern rock band from Athens,
 GA) on their 5 song live EP. (I forget the title, but it was
 released in '94, and, if memory serves correctly, the show
 was from '92?).  On the disk, he only joins them for a 16 min
 version of a song called "Trilogy." (it is beautiful, incredibble)
 My question is, did Boyd play any other songs with Allgood.
  Does anyone have a copy of any of these shows. (Does anyone
 have any Allgood?)  What other bands has Boyd played with
 since joining Dave and gang?

Any info appreciated,

--Morgan


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 2:31 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: Jumping up and down.....

On Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:54:37 -0500 Sir Buford said:
hi im back at school...ooo i got to stand outside in tennessee when it was
15 degrees and smoke cigaretts in my boxers....i miss new mexico ---way too
hot here (but its cool now)  oh---i mean cool cool not just cool, yanno?

chris:
>jumping up and down is ok if you know why you're doing it. I jumped up
    i bet some of em don't even know that they are doing it in the first place.
...much less, why..
>to keep an entire auditorium of 5000 quite for xmas song, but some in the
>crowd, regardless of age or intoxication, seem like they dont come for
>the music, nor respect the band.
     but they _should_.... shit, not even quiet, but at least sort of still...
it is the lack of respect that seems to go hand in hand with youngness and
age....people were moshing to lover lay down, chris.  and someone did a stage
dive off the balcony.....i guess that would make it a balcony dive...(low
balconies in birmingham---) during #36.....screaming and screaming and screamin
ggggg    ----)  that looks lika a cyclops.
and the flourescent light at work last night looked like a footlong hot dog..
 ....but yummier..

and, people (a couple, anyway) had passed out, and slept through halloween
im not saying intoxication is bad, but it's the teenyboppers who cant hold
a shot of tequila, who are the most obnoxious at these shows....

>	Its turnig into a huge frat party insteda of a huge following....
    exactly......

anyway... does a live tape of scratchin jones exist??

:)
  keith


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 2:47 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject:

On Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:46:13 -0500 Melissa Agar said:
>On the other hand, some teenagers have pretty
>advanced musical tastes.  My sis is 17 and a senior in high school and
>is really into Phish and the Dead and DMB.  Of course, she is able to
     of course some teenagers have good musical tastes...
ben pops into mind.....but if you are the exception, thats cool
but lets consider the overwhelming rule....i mean, it's like
someone said, it's not their tasts in question, its their ettiquite
...when sattelites is played, some people chill and listen, and some
people lose their fucking minds....
      keith


Posted By: magar@knox.edu
Time/Date: 3:14 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: your mail

On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, keith wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Jan 1995 16:46:13 -0500 Melissa Agar said:
> >On the other hand, some teenagers have pretty
> >advanced musical tastes.  My sis is 17 and a senior in high school and
> >is really into Phish and the Dead and DMB.  Of course, she is able to
>      of course some teenagers have good musical tastes...
> ben pops into mind.....but if you are the exception, thats cool
> but lets consider the overwhelming rule....i mean, it's like
> someone said, it's not their tasts in question, its their ettiquite
> ..when sattelites is played, some people chill and listen, and some
> people lose their fucking minds....
>       keith
> 


I agree with you.  I just think that we have to be careful and not 
automatically discount a fan because s/he is a little younger than us.  
(And honestly, teenagers aren't that much younger than some of us who can 
count on one hand the number of years it has been since we left teen 
angst behind)

Melissa


Posted By: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:47 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: Anyone Tape the Video?

	I had a friend who was at the DMB shows at the Fox Theater in 
Boulder in Colorado who was at the taping for the video WWYS....he said 
that they had cameras set up at around seven or eight in the afternoon, 
then they let all of the people in for that night's show, then they 
filmed for about an hour, then stopped, then they played without all 
those lights for the rest of the jam.....maybe it was filmed at the GA 
theater also, but, if i'm not mistaken, i believe that it was filmed in 
Boulder.......just my two cents worth....i'm not trying to pick any 
fights or anything like that!  Adios......................mcl.

On Tue, 3 Jan 1995 jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu wrote:

> If anyone has the "What would you say" video on tape (esp if
> you're in Cville, or Central VA at least), I'd love to borrow and
> see it. 
> 
> To remind, this was filmed at GA Theater, right?
> 
> Ellis
> 
> P.S. GO SEE DAY BY THE RIVER!! Formerly of Miami, now out of
> tAthens, I just spent time with their manager (Reis Baron) and am
> now listening to their 2-year-old disc, and its great! All those
> that think/thought Rusted Root or Solar Circus or Widespread are
> the shit should find this disc. I have a business address and
> phone for their week-old Athens base if anyone wants the disc or
> a booking! Trust me; you won't regreat it!!
> 
>      Ellis "of Lemuria" Godard   jeg5s@virginia.edu
>        P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA, 22903
>   Graduate Program in Sociology, University of Virginia
> FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digest
>      Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...
> 
>


Posted By: kburesh@osf1.gmu.edu
Time/Date: 4:13 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: your mail

I don't think that anyone is trying to put down young people in general, but 
young obnoxious people!!  And unfortunately the majority of the obnoxious 
people at Bender weren't even old enough to drive.  Anyone else see all 
of the  fourteen-year-old couples  making out on the floor??  How many  
twenty-three year-olds did you see doing the same thing?  I don't think 
anyone  cares if young people go to the shows as long as they have 
enough  respect for the band to at least listen to them while they are 
there!!  

Kim


Posted By: magar@knox.edu
Time/Date: 4:22 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: your mail

As I said, I agree that these teenagers who act like this are ruining 
things for the rest of us wholeheartedly.  It's just that I've seen this 
kind of thing before and it usually goes from targeting obnoxious teens 
to all teens.  The original postings about this problem seemed to kind of 
target all teens with the generalization that all of the kiddies there 
caused a problem.  It is unfortunate for those kids who were there and 
who were enjoying the show in a civilized manner that they are sort of 
being lumped in with the cretinous youths who were there, too.  I 
apologize for misreading the things people said.  I guess part of it is 
just the overprotective big sis in me making sure people like my sis, who 
is a genuine fan, don't get a bad rap. 

Peace, 
Mel


On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, KIMBERLY J. BURESH wrote:

> I don't think that anyone is trying to put down young people in general, but 
> young obnoxious people!!  And unfortunately the majority of the obnoxious 
> people at Bender weren't even old enough to drive.  Anyone else see all 
> of the  fourteen-year-old couples  making out on the floor??  How many  
> twenty-three year-olds did you see doing the same thing?  I don't think 
> anyone  cares if young people go to the shows as long as they have 
> enough  respect for the band to at least listen to them while they are 
> there!!  
> 
> Kim
>


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 4:44 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: missing dates

I need the date for a show
Angel From ( with Shanon W.)       True Reflections
Granny                             help Myself
Warehouse                          X-mas song
Ants                               Halloween
Typ. Sit                           Song that jane
Dancing Nancies                    Redemtion Song
3/4 of 2 step                      Satellite
                                   Lover Lay down
                                   People People
Thanks Clarke


Posted By: lb065@nptn.org
Time/Date: 5:05 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: The "Teeny Bobbers" Thing

Hi all (my first post). Well, I read that one letter about young
fans the other day and decided to throw in my two cents. Well,
I am a 16 year old from Cleveland, Ohio. I am a big music fan and
collector and talk to a lot of other people often about it. Well,
I can safely say that only one of the many people I know have 
even heard of Dave Matthews Band. Why? Well, we have two "modern
rock" stations in town but I have never heard DMB on either at
any time, and I listen a lot. (hmm...maybe I should request them
some day and see what they do...) Well, anyways, I luckily got
hooked on them when I heard 'Jimi Thing' on the CD with the Dec.
issue of CMJ. Heard the song, loved it, and had to get the tape,
which I also liked and got the same day as Rusted Root which I
heard on the previous month's disc. I know that us teens listen
to the radio a lot but I can't see a big fan base growing when
they are getting NO airplay at all (at least not in northeast
ohio). This is a good thing to, because I can't name how many
bands I have lost this way (and I don't care to get into a 
selling out rant now). but, bands just lose that special 
something when a lot of people like them. I for one, like music
for the music and not just because others like them and it's the
"cool thing" to like this band and that. It is cool to share a
good group like DMB or RR with a friend but once everyone starts
liking them, it's different. Well, look at roll on. Probably 
bored most of you to death but I just had to get this off my
chest. So, to sum it all up, I don't see DMB as being a band 
that is going to get all the teeny bobbers and be the "cool 
thing" to listen to, so don't worry. Later.


Posted By: EDOHERTY@MACALSTR.EDU
Time/Date: 5:30 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: young ones

I'll throw my 2 cents into this debate.  A changing crowd will be a never
ending "situation" ("problem" if you so desire) as long as DMB plays and puts
out albums.  No matter how much we wish it was not true, bands want to sell
albums and make a good or excellent living off what they love...playing
music.  I am sure that Dave et al. would love to see UTAD be a number 1 hit and
sell millions of copies.  We are already seeing an influx of "new" people into
the scene so they will have to play larger venues and it will only get bigger.

The problem is that we always want "the good old days" to continue, but they
never do.  I know people who in 1971 throught the scene at Grateful Dead
concerts was becoming too much so they stopped going to shows.  These people
moaned about the newbies coming into the scene and the Dead having to play
larger halls.  The old timers also thought the new fans did not "understand"
the music like they did when they started seeing the Dead in 1968 or 1969. 
Today the Dead play to 55,000 people in large stadiums.  My point is that all
you need to do is look at other bands as an example of what might/will happen
with the Dave Matthews Band.  For those who were into the scene from the start
it might appear to be going down the drain, or you can see it as yet another
stage in their development.

For the Dave Matthews Band to make it in this business they have to sell
albums.  That is what they want (otherwise they wouldn't do it).  If the albums
do well things will change.  I hate seeing 12 year olds at shows, but there
isn't much you can do.  What do you think Nirvana felt about their sucess?  The
only solution is to stay out of the music industry (i.e., don't make albums),
but that is a hard thing to wish upon a band.  The DMB and all of us are going
to have to roll with the punches.

Peace!  Eric Doherty "edoherty@macalstr.edu"


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 5:42 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: video camera setup @ NYE

On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Joseph Vastol wrote:

> i thought pooped, i mean popped into my head earlier this week...what do you  
> think they are going to do with the video they shot in rich'd on nye?  that  
> could be interesting...or maybe they just taped it for themselves....just  
> wondering....
> 
The purpose of the camera was for a video feed for the large screen 
downstairs in the other ballroom.  I don't know if a tape was actually 
made or not.  It wouldn't be too exciting a video since the camera was 
stationary for the whole show.

Gray


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 5:46 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: age survey

With all the talk good and bad about the age of fans in the last week or 
so, I'm kind of interested in the average age of our fellow minarets 
subscribers.

My question for you is : How old are you?

To hopefully boost the response, I'll make a copy of either set of the 
New Years Eve show for every 10th response.  Please no grovels right now 
beyond that.

You age will not be broadcast over the net nor to anyone other than me 
unless you decide to respond to the net other than me personally.

While we're at it, why dont we also ask:
  Are you in :
   Elementary School :>
   High School
   College  (what's your major)
   or in the working world (what's your profession).

Send responses to : grayp@pinn.net

Thanks,
I'll post the results in about a week or as soon as I get all the responses.

Gray.


--
I'm not from here, I just live here.


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 6:41 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: age survey

Hey, this goes out to everyone, as of late, particularly newcomers, who 
have resurfaced an old issue---> THERE HAS BEEN ENOUGH TALK ABOUT THE 
AGE AND SELFISHNESS OF THOSE THAT ENJOY THE DAVE MATTHEWS BAND.
This subject has been thouroughly digested, scrambled, discussed, 
torn apart and put back together many months ago on the net.  I hate to 
be the one to be the bringer of bad news, but if you want to talk about 
the above mentioned mommbo jumbo, try to make it direct to a person in 
order to avoid cluttering up bandwith for those that like to discuss 
pertinent information regarding the band(i.e. setlists, new info, dates, 
and other stuff regarding dave and the band.)  That is what the founders of 
this net had in mind.  There is no need for subjects that might cause 
bickering.
	Saying Goodbye,
		Kyle(some people call me keeley, some don't)

P.S.  You will notice that I expressed no opinion regarding the age of the 
fans.	And, I only felt the need to say this (you may see that I feel a 
little bit too informative) because you all make me laugh when you talk 
of trivial matters.  Emily, where are you?


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 6:45 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Re: age survey

Oh, and Gray, I'm 21!!!!!!!!!

HE,he,he,he,he,he,he,he,he,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ho,ho,ho,ho,ho,ho,ho,ho,ho,ho,
HE,he,he,he,he,he,he,he,he,he,(yea it is taking me a long time to do 
this), he, he, he, he, chuckle, chuckle, ra, ra.
	Saying Goodbye,
		Kyle(some people call me keeley, some don't)

Don't let this net become non-personal, because it is, it's up to every 
one of you!


Posted By: DJBitman@aol.com
Time/Date: 7:19 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Jane stop this crazy thing

I have asked nicely and now I am getting mad !!!.  It is very rude as an
earlier poster noted, to continually ignore requests to be removed from this
list. I no longer wish to recieve mail from  this mailing list!!!!. I cannot
send a message without a subject.  And all my other attempts have been
denied.  I would greatly appreciated being  removed from this list..  Thank
you in advance.  

DJBITMAN@AOL.COM


Posted By: PYLESTE@COOLEY.COM
Time/Date: 7:37 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Jane stop this crazy thing - Reply

Me to, please unsubscribe pyleste@cgc.com

Thank you in advance

P.S. - I have tried several times and am equally pissed.


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 7:45 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: dressing up to kiss..... Re: Jane stop this crazy thing

who's this jane person you're pleading for help from?

just send a damn msg to
listserv@moose.uvm.edu
saying

unsubscribe minarets

how difficult is that?
maybe your hostility has caused people to not give a damn as to the path 
you and your computer email address take.  

a simple request for the unsubscribe instructions is all you haveever had 
to do. no one on this net has the power to unsubscribe ordelete you from 
this net, therefore, the power has been in your hands all along. 
if you had kindly requested instructions with a smile you would have 
gotten the golden rule reciprocated from me, as well as the other members 
of this net.

you owe us all an apology.


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at the sun... whichever i choose it amounts to the same.. absolutely nothing'
      		                                        
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Posted By: MARCUSR@GAR.UNION.EDU
Time/Date: 9:20 PM Wednesday, January 4, 1995
Subject: Atlanta: i need a tape!!!

If anyone has a good (hopefully DAT) copy of the Dec. 27 show at the Fox, I
would love to get a copy. I have little DMB to trade, but a plethora of WSP and
ARU. E-mail me personally at marcusr@gar.union.edu. Any compliance is greatly
appreciated. Thanks!
		Ryan Marcus


Posted By: Tagans@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:06 AM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Location of 9/11/92

This show is solo Dave at a DKE house somewhere.  Apparently Dave is meeting
the band at "the lodge" to play a show immediately following the one I have.
 The setlist is tripping billies, osw, lie in graves, redemption song, so
much to say, ants, two step, lover, help myself, back you up, ??? (Never
heard this before.  If anyone has the show and knows the song I'd appreciate
it), satellite, typ. sit., nancies, spotlight.  Thanks


Posted By: HAINS@suvax1.stetson.edu
Time/Date: 12:14 AM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: DMB in Florida?

Greets-
  I go to Stetson University in DeLand, Florida.  There have been rumors that
DMB will be at the University of Florida within the next 2 months.  Does anyone
know for sure if they are, or if they will be anywhere in Florida soon?
Thank you!
Bryan

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Posted By: elash@gateway.us.sidwell.edu
Time/Date: 7:36 AM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Re: your mail

Alright. you guys have to be aware that many many high school kids are 
part of this net and the more you insult them (not all high schoolers 
think that satellite is the best song performed by dmb ever for example) 
the fewer of them are going to stay loyal to dmb.  Just a note, munch.


Posted By: @uunet.uu.net:dcez!dinatale
Time/Date: 9:50 AM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Re: age survey

Hey Gray,


I'm 24 and I am currently working at a law firm in DC.  I went to the 
recent Bender show and for the first time felt old at a concert.  I saw 
Phish in Philly a couple days before and although the crowd was also 
young it seemed to be fairly mature and attentive to the music.

I would like a copy of the NYE show if I am one of the chosen.


Jim DiNatale


Posted By: morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu
Time/Date: 2:02 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Re- your mail

>Anyone else see all of the  fourteen-year-old 
>couples  making out on the floor??

Reminds me of I song I know.  Anyone know 
that song "Recently"?

"Kissing all the time . . . "
--Morgan


Posted By: molly@ctg1.com
Time/Date: 2:56 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: response to Gray's survey

>To: grayp@pinn.net
>From: molly@ctg1.com (Molly Peterson)
>Subject: response to survey
>
>I'm 21, just graduated from college, and in the working world.  At the
moment, I'm a professional peon and assistant editor (just in a Highly
Technical Computer Company), but I think my true profession is writer and
generally opinionated person.
>
>Great question-- I'd love to know how old most of these people are.  And
how come it's high schoolers who jump up and down and scream and lose their
minds for "satellite."  Actually, how come anybody loses their mind when
listening to "satellite."
>


Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 3:33 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Blue Screen Show Setlist 1/5

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico, Wisk & friends, 
New Night: 2-3:30 WEDNESDAY Nights/THURSDAY Mornings

89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago


1/5/94 

"Brazil Theme-->"   .............Brazil Soundtrack
"Wilson"(underneathe opening schpeil)....Phish  5/23/994  Portland, OR
"Frankenstein"...................Phish 7/15/91 Academy, NYC
"Get in Line"....................Dave Matthews Band 10/26/94  Minneapolis
"Low Spark of High Heeled Boys"..Widespread Panic w/ Warren Haynes 10/3/93
"Support Your Local Emperor".....Blues Traveler 8/16/94 GSAC Holmdel. NJ
"Funky Bitch-->Jam"..............Phish, 11/22/94 Columbia, MO
"Big House Blues"................Ren & Stimpy


 |
/ \

Brian

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Posted By: @mwbbmsg.attmail.com:rie!4399
Time/Date: 3:40 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: ponder yonder

On January 4, 1995 EDHOHERTY wrote: 



/////// The problem is that we always want "the good old days" to continue, 
but they never do.  I know people who in 1971 through the scene at Grateful 
Dead concerts was becoming too much so they stopped going to shows.  These 
people moaned about the newbbies coming into the scene and the Dead having to 
play larger halls.  The old timers also thought the new fans did not 
"understand" the music like they did when they started seeing the Dead in 1968 
or 1969. Today the Dead play to 55,000 people in large stadiums.  My point is 
that all you need to do is look at other bands as an example of what 
might/will happen with the Dave Matthews Band.  For those who were into the 
scene from the start it might appear to be going down the drain, or you can 
see it as yet another stage in their development. //////// 

The recent thread about new, young fans, coupled with the above post, really 
hit home for me.  I think the attitude expressed by most of the posts 
regarding these younger fans needs some re-evaluation. 

I started seeing the Dead in 1980.  (think about what you all were doing in 
1980)  You cannot believe how different the scene was then.  You could 
literally walk up to a venue the day of a show and buy a ticket from the box 
office.  They would play venues like Norfolk Scope and University of Maryland 
Richie Coliseum for crowds of under 5,000 and never sell out.  Then over the 
next 5 years, everything changed drastically....Stadium gigs for 75,000 sold 
out in an hour and people scalped tickets in the parking lot.  I can't 
pinpoint each and every cause for this enormous increase in popularity of the 
Dead, but I am positive about at least one factor:  me.  yeah, that's right I 
am partly responsible for the tidal wave of fans that forever ended my ability 
to check out one of my favorite bands in an intimate venue.  let me explain. 

as i passed through high school and into college and beyond, i never missed an 
opportunity to turn on a friend, or a friend's brother or sister onto the 
music that i loved (the dead, traffic, phish, dmb, everything (e:), etc.).  
music always has been an very important aspect of my life and also is an 
important aspect on my relationships with others, i.e. one of the common 
interests i share with the majority on my friends is a ferverent and 
insatiable love for live music.  and due to this passion, i found myself 
spreading the word.  i cannot tell you how many people i have slipped tapes to 
over the past 15 years.  during all that time, i never once thought about 
excluding people or tried to hoard the music to myself.  on the contrary, i 
was determined to turn on as many people as i could. 

an aside:  in 1986, i taught juniors and seniors at an all male boarding 
school.  i was 22, they were 16 & 17.  not only did i help them with SATs and 
college applications, but i let them have access to all my tapes and taught a 
lot of them how to mail order tickets for Dead shows.  Sure they were young, 
sure they were silly, and you can bet that their first Dead show experience 
was quite a culture shock both to them and he seasoned Deadheads around them. 
 the 17 year olds are now 25 year olds and for the most part they are still 
into the live music thing.  their experiences with the Dead and eventually 
Phish and Widespread and B and everything (e:), etc. contributed to their 
personal and spiritual growth.  it made them better people and therefore 
made the world a better place.  It is hard for me to even imagine that there 
are those among you who think that turning someone younger than you onto the 
whole peace-through-music ideal could EVER be a bad thing. 

this same attitude of sharing the wealth when it came to music has been with 
me from the moment i got turned on to DMB in the summer of 1992.  I treed 
tapes, I made tapes, I gave tapes.  (a lot of you have tapes in your 
collection that originated from me)  anyone who was interested would get a 
passionate sermon on how cool the music was and how much it deserved to be 
listened to.  i can't even imagine copping the attitude "i want to keep this 
music to myself; i don't want to share this music with younger people because 
they aren't cool enough yet"  it just doesn't seem right., but that is 
basically what the "ban the newbies attitude" is all about...exclusion, 
selfishness, and dis-invitation.  i used to refer to the jerks at Dead shows 
that were so rude to newcomers as considering themselves "Deader-than-thou"  I 
am beginning to be concerned that a number of DMB fans have become 
"Daver-than- thou"  that's a shame....actually. it's more than a shame...it's 
sad  :( 

i think the real challenge is to turn as many people on to the music of DMB 
(and phish and bht and jambay and e: and gibb and others) as is possible.  i 
think extreme amplification of the fan base of these bands would be a very 
cool thing.  i think that  the young people out there who are looking to 
belong and wanting to understand what we get out of the music we love is not a 
threat but rather an opportunity:  to teach, to include, to share, and to 
spread the word. 

remember, we are all older than we once were and younger than we'll be. 

peace, cjs


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:06 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: those crazy kids... calling all musical cancers...

>     of course some teenagers have good musical tastes...
>ben pops into mind.....but if you are the exception, thats cool

heh heh, i just wanted to quote that so anyone that missed it could be caught
up... heeee heee...

>..when sattelites is played, some people chill and listen, and some
>people lose their fucking minds....

this is true... losing your 'fucking mind' can be done in many ways,
though... it just so happens that stupid kids (which CAN INCLUDE YOU COLLEGE
PRICKS TOO! heh heh) tend to let being stupid and inconsiderate their 'way'
to lose their 'fucking mind'


BY THE WAY...
I have an idea!  I think we should start a dave cover band of anyone that's a
cancer.  heh heh.  see, here's the deal... i'm a cancer, we rock... clare is
a cancer... emily is a cancer... emily told me that chardy is a cancer,
though i guess i can't say this for sure... the way i see it, i play guitar,
i think chardy plays some form of drums, and the gals can just sing whatever
the fuck they want.  any bass playing cancers out there?  how about (yeah
right) a violin or sax?

we can all practice at my house.  since we're all on the same wavelength and
crap like that, we wouldn't need to practice all that much... and then when
dave plays msg, we could open...

:)

happy armenian christmas eve... i think...

ben

btw... 'everything' rocks!  happy happy music.

just another memo from the cellar,

     ************************************************************************
    *     "laugh, leaning back in my arms      * --    Ben Sterling     -- * 
   *         for life's not a paragraph       * -- Professional Poseur -- *
  *    and death i think is no parenthesis"  * --   Nebuious@aol.com  -- *
 *                -ee cummings              * --      New York, NY   -- *
************************************************************************


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 4:06 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: ponder yonder (fwd)

OK everybody,

I would like for everyone to take a long hard look at cjs's message (below) and 
try to understand that these screaming little fans probably mean as much
to Dave as do the rest of us. Then, after you read his message, go to 
the nearest and next DMB show and shake hands with the youngest fan 
you can find and offer to make them a bagby. Later!       

Shug


> On January 4, 1995 EDHOHERTY wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> /////// The problem is that we always want "the good old days" to continue, 
> but they never do.  I know people who in 1971 through the scene at Grateful 
> Dead concerts was becoming too much so they stopped going to shows.  These 
> people moaned about the newbbies coming into the scene and the Dead having to 
> play larger halls.  The old timers also thought the new fans did not 
> "understand" the music like they did when they started seeing the Dead in 1968 
> or 1969. Today the Dead play to 55,000 people in large stadiums.  My point is 
> that all you need to do is look at other bands as an example of what 
> might/will happen with the Dave Matthews Band.  For those who were into the 
> scene from the start it might appear to be going down the drain, or you can 
> see it as yet another stage in their development. //////// 
> 
> The recent thread about new, young fans, coupled with the above post, really 
> hit home for me.  I think the attitude expressed by most of the posts 
> regarding these younger fans needs some re-evaluation. 
> 
> I started seeing the Dead in 1980.  (think about what you all were doing in 
> 1980)  You cannot believe how different the scene was then.  You could 
> literally walk up to a venue the day of a show and buy a ticket from the box 
> office.  They would play venues like Norfolk Scope and University of Maryland 
> Richie Coliseum for crowds of under 5,000 and never sell out.  Then over the 
> next 5 years, everything changed drastically....Stadium gigs for 75,000 sold 
> out in an hour and people scalped tickets in the parking lot.  I can't 
> pinpoint each and every cause for this enormous increase in popularity of the 
> Dead, but I am positive about at least one factor:  me.  yeah, that's right I 
> am partly responsible for the tidal wave of fans that forever ended my ability 
> to check out one of my favorite bands in an intimate venue.  let me explain. 
> 
> as i passed through high school and into college and beyond, i never missed an 
> opportunity to turn on a friend, or a friend's brother or sister onto the 
> music that i loved (the dead, traffic, phish, dmb, everything (e:), etc.).  
> music always has been an very important aspect of my life and also is an 
> important aspect on my relationships with others, i.e. one of the common 
> interests i share with the majority on my friends is a ferverent and 
> insatiable love for live music.  and due to this passion, i found myself 
> spreading the word.  i cannot tell you how many people i have slipped tapes to 
> over the past 15 years.  during all that time, i never once thought about 
> excluding people or tried to hoard the music to myself.  on the contrary, i 
> was determined to turn on as many people as i could. 
> 
> an aside:  in 1986, i taught juniors and seniors at an all male boarding 
> school.  i was 22, they were 16 & 17.  not only did i help them with SATs and 
> college applications, but i let them have access to all my tapes and taught a 
> lot of them how to mail order tickets for Dead shows.  Sure they were young, 
> sure they were silly, and you can bet that their first Dead show experience 
> was quite a culture shock both to them and he seasoned Deadheads around them. 
>  the 17 year olds are now 25 year olds and for the most part they are still 
> into the live music thing.  their experiences with the Dead and eventually 
> Phish and Widespread and B and everything (e:), etc. contributed to their 
> personal and spiritual growth.  it made them better people and therefore 
> made the world a better place.  It is hard for me to even imagine that there 
> are those among you who think that turning someone younger than you onto the 
> whole peace-through-music ideal could EVER be a bad thing. 
> 
> this same attitude of sharing the wealth when it came to music has been with 
> me from the moment i got turned on to DMB in the summer of 1992.  I treed 
> tapes, I made tapes, I gave tapes.  (a lot of you have tapes in your 
> collection that originated from me)  anyone who was interested would get a 
> passionate sermon on how cool the music was and how much it deserved to be 
> listened to.  i can't even imagine copping the attitude "i want to keep this 
> music to myself; i don't want to share this music with younger people because 
> they aren't cool enough yet"  it just doesn't seem right., but that is 
> basically what the "ban the newbies attitude" is all about...exclusion, 
> selfishness, and dis-invitation.  i used to refer to the jerks at Dead shows 
> that were so rude to newcomers as considering themselves "Deader-than-thou"  I 
> am beginning to be concerned that a number of DMB fans have become 
> "Daver-than- thou"  that's a shame....actually. it's more than a shame...it's 
> sad  :( 
> 
> i think the real challenge is to turn as many people on to the music of DMB 
> (and phish and bht and jambay and e: and gibb and others) as is possible.  i 
> think extreme amplification of the fan base of these bands would be a very 
> cool thing.  i think that  the young people out there who are looking to 
> belong and wanting to understand what we get out of the music we love is not a 
> threat but rather an opportunity:  to teach, to include, to share, and to 
> spread the word. 
> 
> remember, we are all older than we once were and younger than we'll be. 
> 
> peace, cjs 
> 


Posted By: dbb@christa.unh.edu
Time/Date: 4:10 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Re: ponder yonder

W


Posted By: goldberg@rochgtw.fidonet.org
Time/Date: 4:45 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Is Dave coming north?????

Hey all,

Rumors been flying up here about Dave coming to Rochester somewhere
around the 11th of Feb.  Is this bullshit??  Also, others say he will be
touring around Syracuse, Ithaca, and somewhere else.  Just to calm the
masses, can anyone give me any info?
                                               Thanks



Seth
Goldberg-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-Goldberg@Rochgte.fidonet.org


       When I'm reincarnated, I'm gonna come back as a musical note.
That way, nobody can capture me.....They can use the hell out of me, but
there ain't too much they can do to me.  They can mess me up, play the
wrong note, they can play a C, but they can't really destroy a C.  All
it is, is a tone...So I'm gonna come back as a note.

                                       - Rahsaan Roland Kirk

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Posted By: Sara.E.Burch@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 5:42 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: why the bass?

i strongly condone the recent commentary on the changing aura at dave shows.
am i the only one that attributes this to the pounding bass that rca has
given dave and fans alike? i couldn't hear much of anything at fox or bender,
due to the booming new dynamic?!?#@! sound of dmb. i felt myself a guest at
an MTV dance party, as this certain pounding encompassed the audience. i
don't get excited about hearing dave on kicker boxes and bazooka tubes when i
go home next summer. i'm not looking to be critical as much as i'm looking
for an answer. :-)

does anyone have a tape of last summer's dave/tim reynolds jam at the
birchmere? i'd like to trade for it.

saying goodbye,
sara


Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 5:58 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: DMB and BHT in Burlington, VT

	I know this will only apply to a few of you, but I wanted to 
confirm Jan. 26 at Memorial Auditorium in Burlington, VT.  Tickets are 
$22 + ($2 ?)Charge if you order over the phone, and unfortunately, I 
believe BHT is headlining.  Tickets went on sale last Friday, but it is 
general admission and I believe there are plenty of tix left.  I have 
also heard they will be playing at Dartmouth College in Hanover, NH 
sometime that week as well.  Just a note from the North Country-

			Take Care-

			Steve

P.S.  Also unconfirmed at Cornell?


Posted By: rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com
Time/Date: 6:22 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Redemption Song

I've been trying for some time to get a tape of Dave (and the Band?) playing
Redemption Song. I might be giving away the farm here, but I'm willing to offer
a 
2 for 1 trade to anyone, regardless of how old you are :), who has a good
quality show with this song.

Thanks,
Gavin


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 6:51 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Re: those crazy kids... calling all musical cancers...

On Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:19:16 -0500 <NebuIous@aol.com> said:
>stupid kids (which CAN INCLUDE YOU COLLEGE
>PRICKS TOO! heh heh) tend to let being stupid and inconsiderate their 'way'
>to lose their 'fucking mind'
     ummmmm...yea..who was it that
said dmb shows were looking more and more
like frat parties?  its just that....i mean
they look like a bunch of ants
all of em
big ones small ones
fat ones skinny ones
young ones old ones
right on, ben

oh...and
>BY THE WAY...
>I have an idea!  I think we should start a dave cover band of anyone that's a
>cancer.  heh heh.  see, here's the deal... i'm a cancer, we rock... clare is
>a cancer... emily is a cancer... emily told me that chardy is a cancer,
>though i guess i can't say this for sure... the way i see it, i play guitar,
>i think chardy plays some form of drums, and the gals can just sing whatever
>the fuck they want.  any bass playing cancers out there?

    ok-- im down with this....but you have to use your imagination a little
its not a big stretch.......(sort of)
  ok i talked to my mom....she says that
  according to my birth cert., (which, incedently, burned
up in a fire when ben was...lets see..ben was 1)...it says
i was born at 11:57pm on 20JUN.....
but _first_ of all.....my mom said her watch (set to some form
of "official" time, was 5 min faster than the hospitals, making
it 21JUN when i was "released"
--ok...you don't buy that?...fine..plan two:
i was born in the central time zone.....
and everyone else on the list...ben..clareemily...
..cha...etc....whoever else...is in eastern....so i
was born at 12:57am, edt, once it was already 21JUN.......
...---and, of course, 21JUN is cancer.....

i like to have my parties with hats and blowey things on 20JUN, which
is gemini, but that must be close enough.....and next year, ill do it
on 21JUN....a cancer hat party....

and if *that's* not goood enough...i play bass

i just can't focus on school yet  .......


>how about (yeah right) a violin or sax?
   how about a clairanet?........or tablas?

shit ...we can do this...

                         keith

btw: who thinks i should offer the raredave tree to other nets,
so people can hear what he can do live, etc....and who thinks i
should not do it, because it would be generally a pain in the ass..?

just curious...ive had two people give me both sides on their
own accord......just wondering what everyone else thought...
especially you boofy....


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 6:55 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: More Publicity...

Besides CNN, MTV, and USA Today, there is a cool little article in the 
Feb. issue of Guitar Player (p.19) Neato. Actually saw the video last 
night and thought it was pretty cool (air time 1:40 EST)

Also if this age thing is becoming such a big issue, then we wont have a 
problem taping the Richmond shows...how you ask? Well while the mosh pit 
is going on during Tripping Billies we can bring in the stroller 
(someone elses idea I know,) while everyone is distracted. Ive been told 
that there is a stroller section by the board for the newest and youngest 
of DMB fans...then while everyone is either making out ('This is our song 
honey') or waving lighters in the air we can set up shop! That is unless 
some tyke has his 'My First Sony' DAT, or PlaySchool Deck mooched in 
there first by giving a bribe of some bubble gum and a Pete Rose baseball 
card to Jeff...
I really dont care how old anyone is just as long as they didnt have too 
much red Kool-Aid before the show and are so hyper they start to bother 
me. I know it is impossible to sit still during a DMB show but show some 
respect...there ARE people behind you!!!

I guess thats it...
Kyle when do you leave?

Dave


Posted By: ThaneEK@aol.com
Time/Date: 7:01 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: DMB/BHT Tour Dates Pt.1

Here goes kids, the first official list of the spring tour:

January 26 Burlington, VT/Memorial Auditorium
January 27 Hanover, NH/Dartmouth College
January 28 Lewiston, ME/Bates College
January 30-31 Providence, RI/Lupo's
February 2 Orono, ME/University of Maine
February 3 Hartford, CT/Trinity College
February 4 Boston, MA/Orpheum Theatre
February 5 New Haven , CT/Palace Theatre
February 7 Northampton, MA/Smith College
February 8 Albany, NY/Palace Theatre
February 10 Philadelphia, PA/Tower Theater
February 11-12 University Park, PA/Penn State
February 14-15 Richmond, VA/Carpenter Center (DMB ONLY)
 (with The Richmond Symphony)
February 17 New Orleans, LA/House of Blues (DMB ONLY)
February 20 Syracuse, NY/Landmark Theatre
February 21 Manchester, NH/N. H. College
February 23-24 New York, NY/Roseland Ballroom
February 25 Easton, PA/Kirby Fieldhouse

March 19-April 2: DMB in UK & Western Europe


Posted By: allgood@umich.edu
Time/Date: 7:27 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Re: More Publicity...

Oh yea Dave, Jimmy Ross(the famous one) always had red kool-aid stains on 
his mouth.  Hence, I've never dranken kool-aid.
	"Hey Kool aid" -a bunch of screaming jimmies-
	A bustage of the brick wall
	"Oh Yea"-a big red bowl of kool aid,the kool aid man
Guess what, the heavy step is a huge hit amongst my buddies, we laugh 
until the chitlins come home.  That's my new favorite word CHITLIN.  I 
use it in every sentence cuz' I do not know what it is, i.e. give me some 
of that chitlin, I think that nutty chitlin is following me, I have a 
case of the chitlins, if you don't get that chitlin off my back there is 
going to be a heap of trouble, please give me a chitlin with horseradish 
on the side.   I crack myself up!!
	Saying Goodbye,
		Kyle(some people call me keeley-Amy Andros does, some don't)


Posted By: HFEJP@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu
Time/Date: 7:54 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Ruminations on the video

Howdy all.

I'm back in Tejas after 10 glorious snowy days up (relatively) north.  For
those who have yet to see the video and don't want to wade through hours of
Boyz II Men like I did trying to catch it these past few weeks, I believe it
is on a pretty set rotation on MTV.  Go to bed at a decent hour (10:00 or so
since this is break time), and set your alarms for 1:45 am eastern time.  I
caught it three times while I was home at this same exact spot -- During the
"Dream Time" show.  (Brett, darling, I know you can stay up this late).

Some quick thoughts since I didn't see too much chatter about it in the 172
messages I just perused:  Didn't like it much the first time -- looked too
much like a bad Peter Gabriel video rip-off to me.  I had brief nightmare
visions of it ending up on Beavis and Butthead (although that show does amuse
me at times, I don't want to hear what they have to say about the harlequin
makeup).  But after seeing it again and then taping it, I have to say that it
did grow on me.  I thought the brief live band/crowd shots did a passable job
at capturing the spirit of a show, and of course I'd watch this any day over
Bon Jovi's new one, so... we'll see if it moves out of Dream Time.

Anyway, happy '95 to all.

Beth


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 8:03 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Re: Ruminations on the video

On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, Elizabeth J Pearson wrote:

> at capturing the spirit of a show, and of course I'd watch this any day over
> Bon Jovi's new one, so... we'll see if it moves out of Dream Time.

The one with Cindy CRawford......oohhh i LOVE htat one....
anyway.....
Kieth....if you want to tree the tape on other nets, thats cool. I think 
it is  a good quick way to cover all aspects of DMB, past and present...

BTW the rarities tape is still pluggin along.....dont fret..

Tanen or other computer geniuses, The next step we need on the Homepage 
is quicktime/mpeg videos. As we speak i am ftp Tori amos playing God on 
Jay Leno. I can also get NIN videos. THis stuff is the shit and i need 
more things to procrastinate with. If we could upload the video, then 
everyone with Mosaic could se it :-)

anyways...latr.
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Posted By: messierb@ucsub.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 9:44 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: Happy New year!

A little late, but thought I would wish all of you a happy new year!  
Anyone else catch that crazy Phish show?  A giant flying hot dog!  I 
nearly lost it!  Hope the Dave show was just as tremendous for all those 
who saw it.

Now, down to bussiness, I need Max Point sheets!  I am in dire need of at 
least two Max points sheets to send my little points in.  If anyone can 
hook me up with these I will spin you your choice of a tape from my huge 
and crispy Phish collection.  And for the hell of it I will spin the 
first 3 people who respond some tapes if they send me blanks.

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: 72672.1776@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 11:02 PM Thursday, January 5, 1995
Subject: #34 [w/ words]

so i'm sittin here, listening to the fuzz on my 4th Generation Soundboard copy
of DMB at TRAX 3/23/93, and i hear #34-- with words.    

the chorus goes something like:

lie upon me i'll
lean upon you
we'll be okay

another chorus goes:

lie about it
cry about it
we'll be okay

the rest sounds like gibberish to me.

the really cool thing is Carter's drumroll-type stuff during the break section
(even though Boyd sounds SO out of tune).

it ends, not on the suspended chord (as on UTTAD), but on a nice resloution in
A.

has anyone else heard this version?   if so, were you able to figure out any 
other words?!

-anyoneotherthanme

plan:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
read.    listen to dave.    nap.    read clare's .sig.    eat.
read.   read.   listen to dave.   hear dave.    write.   read.

repeat until you are content and dreaming (_I_ have been)...
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Dominic Sagolla '96    dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College     dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081   sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
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Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:11 AM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: oh i set myself at your feet laughing....

On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, AnyoneOtherThanMe wrote:

> so i'm sittin here, listening to the fuzz on my 4th Generation Soundboard copy
> of DMB at TRAX 3/23/93, and i hear #34-- with words.    

#34 has had words as long  as i've ever heard the song, 
which was why those netters who were present over the summer
upon hearing that #34 would be on the album (not #36 as one
would have expected) that, indeed, #34 would be in instrumental.
i'm still shocked that the words weren't sung on the album, 
but then again, 
the album version of #34 is about
two minutes shorter than the song is usually.
maybe this has something to do with it.

this, as well, should be in the faq. 
PLEASE make sure you read your faq's.
they kick ass with the info and lots
of people have worked very hard on them 
so that they are up-to-date and full
of neato tidbit info on stuff like
the evolution of the names of songs, 
and who people like miguel valdez and chris hani
are... 
education is astounding, isn't it? 
just to think... college.. wow...
> 
> lie upon me i'll
> lean upon you
> we'll be okay

lean upon me
i'll lean upon you
we'll be okay


> lie about it
> cry about it
> we'll be okay

lie valdez 
cry valdez
we'll be okay....


> the rest sounds like gibberish to me.

actually, it's not.
i've got a vrey clear version
from 3.17.93 (a stellar version from which the sub line 
of this post comes from and it's also my fav line from this song, period)


> has anyone else heard this version?   if so, were you able to figure out any 
> other words?!
absolutely... 
as i said, until uttad, this was the only way #34 was ever performed.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
> listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
> read.    listen to dave.    nap.    read clare's .sig.    eat.
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i'm not sure i like 
my name being in people's sigs.
people.. i am but a simple girl
liek you all.
all this freakage is making me have recurring dreams
of beign stalked.
not good, eh?
love thy (den) mother..
cut me some slack...

'give me these moments, give them back to me.. give me that little kiss, 
give me your hand.....'

smoking is an order in this message..

love and hugs and wool socks, 
clare emily

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at the sun... whichever i choose it amounts to the same.. absolutely nothing'
      		                                        
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Posted By: 72672.1776@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 12:50 AM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: RE: oh i set myself at your feet laughing....

clare: thanks for the info.    i thought you'd be flattered that i put your 
name in my .sig.    i'm sorry that you feel stalked.    i'm not that guy.    
i'm the other guy.   the one who Two Steps all over Mr. Prying Eyes.

i just like your .sigs, that's all.

i READ the FAQs.    i ADDED to the FAQs.    i 1 the FAQs... i 2 the FAQs... i 
8 the FAQs.

tasted alot like chicken...

-anyoneotherthanme

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
read.    listen to dave.    nap.    strum... strum.    eat.
read.   read.   listen to dave.   hear dave.    write.   read.

repeat until you feel better for a small time...
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Dominic Sagolla '96    dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College     dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081   sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
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Posted By: magar@knox.edu
Time/Date: 9:24 AM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: Re: Ruminations on the video

For those looking for the video, try catching Darcy's Music on VH1 if you 
get it.  It was on a few nights ago and that is how I caught it.  

It totally reminded me of Peter Gabriel, too, BTW, but I liked it.  

Melissa
magar@knox.edu


Posted By: magar@knox.edu
Time/Date: 9:27 AM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: Re: Happy New year!

On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, MESSIER BRAD ALAN wrote:

> Now, down to bussiness, I need Max Point sheets!  I am in dire need of at 
> least two Max points sheets to send my little points in.  If anyone can 
> hook me up with these I will spin you your choice of a tape from my huge 
> and crispy Phish collection.  And for the hell of it I will spin the 
> first 3 people who respond some tapes if they send me blanks.
> 


Actually, you only need one Max Point sheet because they allow 
photocopied sheets to be sent in.  

Melissa
magar@knox.edu


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:23 AM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: the WAREHOUSE (archive)

I was reading the faq again and i saw mention of an archive in the works 
but in the last 5 months i've seen nothing about it.....i have about 8 
great tapes that only have set lists and no other info...i don't include 
these in my tape list because any serious tapers want all that info ....
anyways there are probably a plethera (hehe) of peoples out there 
including myself who would live to help put together an archive

any thoughts.......please post

if the phish net can put one together from the last  9 years can't we ...

                     ***********************  "You ever taking a good look
"I don't do          *T.J. Palvino**********   at a dollar bill,man? There's
drugs- I am drugs."  *p.o. box 131 *********   some spooky stuff going on in
-Dali                *Lexington VA 24450****   there, and its GREEN too!!"
                     ***********************           -Slater


Posted By: molly@ctg1.com
Time/Date: 11:49 AM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: 20 June whatever year

is the greatest day in the whole world stop shitting on my birthday.

Thank you,

Molly


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 12:21 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: DMB in Syracuse!

Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I can't stand it-they are going to be here in
the midst of this cold, snowy winter and *I* get to see them.
I am so excited that I can't wait.  Tickets don't go on sale until
1/20 according to the Landmark office.  Ticketbastard here in
the 'Cuse can be reached by calling 315/472-0700.  There might be
an 800 number but I don't know it-sorry!  oh, yes!  Something to
look forward to.

And btw, cjs is right on about this fan thing.  The best thing to
do is just remain positive about it.  Don't let the negativity
overtake it all.  

klong


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 12:42 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: Re: 20 June whatever year

On Fri, 6 Jan 1995 12:07:26 -0500 Molly Peterson said:
>is the greatest day in the whole world stop shitting on my birthday.

   ooooh give me a BREAK, molly
how can anyone possibly read that much negativity into that post i made....
shit, i even like the day.....

relax
and *you* stop shitting on the fun that makes this net what it is.....not only
informative, but enjoyable...and interesting...all elements..

if you don't chill out i might have to send 800 obnoxious messages to
the net about how i must unsubscribe, because this is too much mail and,
how awful it is that no one will tell me how to unsubscribe, even though
it is written in the intro letter that i forgot to read, and didnt save, and
how pissed off i am that i have to ask so many times even though listproc@moose
isn't that hard to remember....and how the command "unsubscribe minarets"
is so awfully confusing, and how someone needs to help because this is getting
rediculous, and how awful and tragic it all seems, etc....

and how someone (any volunteers???) needs to wave their magic wand to get
me happy agasin....and on and on and on and on and on and on..........

and, molly, please don't send me a message asking me to stop shitting on the
unsubscribers

loved the stamp story clare, ill mail ya when i wake up!!!

yes, people, i am asleep now.....
no way negativity, no way!

     sarcasm, serenity, and snapple

                          keith


oh, and ben-- does this rash outburst disqualify me from the "hey, I'll
shit on any day to be a cancer" band???? hope not...

mmmmmmmmmm..........snapple

keith


Posted By: molly@ctg1.com
Time/Date: 1:10 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: DMB and BHT

Tickets for DMB and BHT playing together in Boston February 4 are going on
sale, I hear, this Saturday, i.e. tomorrow.

Does anyone else know anything about BHT/DMB tour dates this year, or
whether this is all just a nasty sweet little rumor?


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 1:57 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: me and molly and arbitrary days of the year...

just when i finally threatened to hybernate for a while,
alas....hark....i am awake...

but only for a sec.... i just wanted everyone to know that
molly and i have sorted things out, and ............

i have a new friend!   sort of....  well, were peaceful, anyway

i knew that would be of concern to you all....judging from that
rediculous amount of flameing due to the sandy/jonfro episode of
last month....

were down
were cool

a pinch of sarcasm makes a trek up a mountian, a jog up a molehill

just another piece of arbitrary philosophical bs from the cellar,

                                      keith


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 2:26 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: Re: 20 June whatever year (fwd)

Forwarded message:
> From minarets@moose.uvm.edu Fri Jan  6 12:55 EST 1995
> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 12:55:35 -0500
> Message-Id: <9501061742.AA127576@moose.uvm.edu>
> Reply-To: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
> Originator: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
> Sender: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
> Precedence: bulk
> From: keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
> Subject: Re: 20 June whatever year
> X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas
> X-Comment:  Open discussion for the dave matthews band
> Content-Type: text
> Content-Length: 1592
> 
> On Fri, 6 Jan 1995 12:07:26 -0500 Molly Peterson said:
> >is the greatest day in the whole world stop shitting on my birthday.
> 
>    ooooh give me a BREAK, molly
> how can anyone possibly read that much negativity into that post i made....
> shit, i even like the day.....
> 
> relax
> and *you* stop shitting on the fun that makes this net what it is.....not only
> informative, but enjoyable...and interesting...all elements..
> 
> if you don't chill out i might have to send 800 obnoxious messages to
> the net about how i must unsubscribe, because this is too much mail and,
> how awful it is that no one will tell me how to unsubscribe, even though
> it is written in the intro letter that i forgot to read, and didnt save, and
> how pissed off i am that i have to ask so many times even though listproc@moose
> isn't that hard to remember....and how the command "unsubscribe minarets"
> is so awfully confusing, and how someone needs to help because this is getting
> rediculous, and how awful and tragic it all seems, etc....
> 
> and how someone (any volunteers???) needs to wave their magic wand to get
> me happy agasin....and on and on and on and on and on and on..........
> 
> and, molly, please don't send me a message asking me to stop shitting on the
> unsubscribers
> 
> loved the stamp story clare, ill mail ya when i wake up!!!
> 
> yes, people, i am asleep now.....
> no way negativity, no way!
> 
>      sarcasm, serenity, and snapple
> 
>                           keith
> 
> 
> oh, and ben-- does this rash outburst disqualify me from the "hey, I'll
> shit on any day to be a cancer" band???? hope not...
> 
> mmmmmmmmmm..........snapple
> 
> keith
> 
I,m really lost, here.  Is this message (the part from molly) something
concerning that nasty message a few days ago aboiut wanting to unsubscribe?
I guess it's really not that big a deal, I just wanted to know...

working, wishing for snow, and dreaming of being under the table

shug


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:46 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: any kind of touch i think is better than none even upside down

but you see i'm tangled up
i've got a kitten kitten
kitten
kitten in my hair...


disclamer: 
 this has no dave matthews band relevance at all. AT ALL!
 so if youre' finniky about that kinda thing, delete now!

hee hee i'm a cancer.
hee hee i'll play moraccas.
and other funsey kinds of stuff.
like spoons, and uh... pots adn pans
and glasses of water (or snapple)
ben on guitar, keith on bass, 
chardy on DRUMS!
emily on uh.. we'll figger out exactly 
what emily adn i'll do..
we'll pretend liek we have some kind
of musical talent. 
emily on vacuum cleaner. yeah yeah.
we'll have lots of our own songs, 
but we'll do cool tori covers, too..
we need a cancer piano player!! here here!!
apply within!
but yunno what keith? 
i wasn't born in EST!!
ha! (fooled ya, didn't i?)
good ole vir-geeeen-eee-aaaaaa
is only the eighth state i've lived in 
(not counting the three years in europe)
and so i guess that makes me born in mountain standard time.
i dunno.. is phoenix mountain standard time?
hmmmmm
'the worms crawl in the worms crawl out'

here's a happy story for everyone who does
(and doesn't know me)
cause we all love one another and you'll
feel happy when you read it.
i went to the post office yesterday to (finally) 
mail jason dear jason't tapes (which have been ready adn in the package 
for over a month now.. i just had conflicting schedules with teh post 
office during holiday times. who'd have known they'd be closed the four 
times i actually GOT there.. ok.. on with my story....
 i even bought stamps. this is funny.. some woman in front of me at the
post office wanted to get 3200 three cent stamps.
can you believe that?
the man said,  i'm sorry ma'am, but we're out.
and she said,  i havebills to pay!
the man said,  i'm sorry ma'am, but we're out.
and she said,  if you don't want to sell them to me just say so.
the man said,  i'm sorry ma'am, but we're _out_.
and then he sold me four three cent stamps.
hee heee
(i'm glad i dont have that many bill's worth of stamps to pay!)

'i drown at night in your house...'
love light jubilance lollipops gumdrops marshmallows (rick says i smell 
like marshmallows? but he'll tell ya the story of seeing me with out my 
pearls.. hee heee do telll you sweet thing rick you! i somehow remember 
them ending up on him, and somehow ice was involved.... discuss!)

go bop bop 
  go bop bop
    go bop bop
 go bop

cecececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececececec


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'i could turn and walk away or i could fire the gun staring at the sky staring
at the sun... whichever i choose it amounts to the same.. absolutely nothing'
      		                                        
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On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, keith wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Jan 1995 16:19:16 -0500 <NebuIous@aol.com> said:
> >stupid kids (which CAN INCLUDE YOU COLLEGE
> >PRICKS TOO! heh heh) tend to let being stupid and inconsiderate their 'way'
> >to lose their 'fucking mind'
>      ummmmm...yea..who was it that
> said dmb shows were looking more and more
> like frat parties?  its just that....i mean
> they look like a bunch of ants
> all of em
> big ones small ones
> fat ones skinny ones
> young ones old ones
> right on, ben
> 
> oh...and
> >BY THE WAY...
> >I have an idea!  I think we should start a dave cover band of anyone that's a
> >cancer.  heh heh.  see, here's the deal... i'm a cancer, we rock... clare is
> >a cancer... emily is a cancer... emily told me that chardy is a cancer,
> >though i guess i can't say this for sure... the way i see it, i play guitar,
> >i think chardy plays some form of drums, and the gals can just sing whatever
> >the fuck they want.  any bass playing cancers out there?
> 
>     ok-- im down with this....but you have to use your imagination a little
> its not a big stretch.......(sort of)
>   ok i talked to my mom....she says that
>   according to my birth cert., (which, incedently, burned
> up in a fire when ben was...lets see..ben was 1)...it says
> i was born at 11:57pm on 20JUN.....
> but _first_ of all.....my mom said her watch (set to some form
> of "official" time, was 5 min faster than the hospitals, making
> it 21JUN when i was "released"
> --ok...you don't buy that?...fine..plan two:
> i was born in the central time zone.....
> and everyone else on the list...ben..clareemily...
> .cha...etc....whoever else...is in eastern....so i
> was born at 12:57am, edt, once it was already 21JUN.......
> ..---and, of course, 21JUN is cancer.....
> 
> i like to have my parties with hats and blowey things on 20JUN, which
> is gemini, but that must be close enough.....and next year, ill do it
> on 21JUN....a cancer hat party....
> 
> and if *that's* not goood enough...i play bass
> 
> i just can't focus on school yet  .......
> 
> 
> >how about (yeah right) a violin or sax?
>    how about a clairanet?........or tablas?
> 
> shit ...we can do this...
> 
>                          keith
> 
> btw: who thinks i should offer the raredave tree to other nets,
> so people can hear what he can do live, etc....and who thinks i
> should not do it, because it would be generally a pain in the ass..?
> 
> just curious...ive had two people give me both sides on their
> own accord......just wondering what everyone else thought...
> especially you boofy....
> 


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:57 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: WAREHOUSE....It will happen

Yes the WAREHOUSE will happen. RIght now i am trying to register, 
drop/add, finish the rarities, and work on the warehouse, and fiond a 
lost trade......gimme time...
anyways.....
latr cheers.....

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Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 5:23 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: NYC

...was in NYC for new years eve, and there i am, out of my element but 
happy as a clam, driving down 42nd street in a cab, half drunk, and i 
think i see a halucination, but no, it was real, i swear, a big tall 
lighted advertisement box in the window of a record store with the UTTAD 
cover brightly glowing...a bit of home (Va) right there in the big apple. 
cool, huh?
just a tid bit of warmth for you all
kristin


Posted By: afd@christa.unh.edu
Time/Date: 6:42 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: Newbie

I'm a newbie to Minarets.  Could anyone help me out with some good 
shows?  I don't have any.  I have Phish, Wide Spread Panic, and Percy 
Hill boots to offer.

Pete
Afd@christa.unh.edu


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 6:48 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: some good shit man!!!!

I really have nothing to say...miles davis is a god.......wow what was 
that???? 

fungi starts with f-u-n .........kinda cool......


what time is it???????

later...


                     ***********************  "You ever taking a good look
"I don't do          *T.J. Palvino**********   at a dollar bill,man? There's
drugs- I am drugs."  *p.o. box 131 *********   some spooky stuff going on in
-Dali                *Lexington VA 24450****   there, and its GREEN too!!"
                     ***********************           -Slater


Posted By: afd@christa.unh.edu
Time/Date: 6:50 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: 1/27

Anyone else going to the 1/27 show at Dartmouth College?

Pete


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 10:33 PM Friday, January 6, 1995
Subject: roseland q & a...

okay my sweety pies... i have a question or two...


1) are roseland (feb. 23 & 24th) on sale yet? if not, does anyone out there
know WHEN they go onsale?  if they're onsale NOW NOW NOW, then, well, i best
get crackin' with my peoples...

2) please don't tell me bht are headlining... i guess maybe they'll switch
off or something for those 2 shows... ack...

ben

p.s.... goddamnit clare, that IS how you spell 'poser'!!!!!!!!!

just another memo from the cellar,

     ************************************************************************
    *     "laugh, leaning back in my arms      * --    Ben Sterling     -- * 
   *         for life's not a paragraph       * -- Professional Poseur -- *
  *    and death i think is no parenthesis"  * --   Nebuious@aol.com  -- *
 *                -ee cummings              * --      New York, NY   -- *
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Posted By: ThaneEK@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:04 AM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: Re: roseland q & a...

The entire tour is a co-headlining tour, meaning both bands will receive
equal billing in every city they play.

For those who insist on heirarchies (or on knowing how late they can arrive
and still catch DMB....), DMB will close the show for all eastern dates,
which includes all dates listed in the "Pt.1" tour dates.

For ticket info on the Roseland dates, call (212) 247-0200.


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:49 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: cancers, posters, roseland, and the muppets

keith <KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU> says:

>and how someone (any volunteers???) needs to wave their magic wand to get
>me happy agasin....and on and on and on and on and on and on..........

ta da! happy happy dave dave 2 nights at roooooseland...

>oh, and ben-- does this rash outburst disqualify me from the "hey, I'll
>shit on any day to be a cancer" band???? hope not...

no no no... isn't that one of our character trait thingies? clare needs to
post all this crazy shit her mom gives her... because i forgot what i'm
supposed to be. heh heh. 'i strive to conform to what you try to condone'...
shit i think that's the line from NICU. tanen????? do you know the line?

>just another piece of arbitrary philosophical bs from the cellar,

BACK OFF KEITH that's MY LINE! ;)

KEP <peterke3@wfu.edu> says:

>lighted advertisement box in the window of a record store with the UTTAD 
>cover brightly glowing...a bit of home (Va) right there in the big apple.

yeah, there are a few of those... i think i know the one you're talking
about.  gosh... but honestly, it's probably only because it's selling
MODERATELY well, and RCA was eager to send them out, yunno? wouldn't that
make sense?  because, believe it or not, dave is NOT very big in new york
(even if a few 12 year old girls love him...for NOW), and putting him up in
one of those displays doesn't really mean very much.  But it's still both
cool and strange to see them...



And and and and... the roseland phone number does not help for when tickets
go on sale, as they're only telling me dates through january... i suppose
i'll just swing by irving plaza and find out (yes irving plaza sells roseland
tickets, confusing yes...).

i'm ready for the bigtime is it ready for me?

ben

just another memo from the cellar,

     ************************************************************************
    *     "laugh, leaning back in my arms      * --    Ben Sterling     -- * 
   *         for life's not a paragraph       * -- Professional Poseur -- *
  *    and death i think is no parenthesis"  * --   Nebuious@aol.com  -- *
 *                -ee cummings              * --      New York, NY   -- *
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Posted By: sseremet
Time/Date: 2:06 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: Digests?

Hello, How are you doing today-
	I'd be much obliged if someone could send me today's digest when
it comes, because my other account is down for a couple of days.  Thanks 
in advance.
			-Steve


Posted By: ThaneEK@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:56 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: Re: dave is NOT very big in new york

Let's see...DMB sold out Roseland (cap.3,200) on their own in October...and
now they're headlining 2 nights....so I suupose they're pretty big, actually.

Unless of course your standard for big begins at Madison Square Garden...


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 7:14 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: Re: cancers, posters, roseland, and the muppets

On Sat, 7 Jan 1995 14:00:44 -0500 <NebuIous@aol.com> said:
>>just another piece of arbitrary philosophical bs from the cellar,
>
>BACK OFF KEITH that's MY LINE! ;)

     but ben, my friend, come on..................
  I READ THE WOOOOOOOLE DAMN THING

really....

oh--who wants to tell me when most people
get back from break.,....
i dont want to stop these tree thingys too early

and my other question (since the warehouse is
still being furnished)........

im looking for the date of a show in oxford mississippi
....the set list goes, like this:
something, ants, jimithing, best o wa, satell
r&r, recently, minarets, true refl.....any
help will be very appriciated and quite lovely indeed

  keith


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 8:17 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: age survey results

here are the results of the age survey:

#of respondants : 59
average age : 21.72
low age : 16
high age : 42
most common age : 22 (12 respondants)

high school : 5
college : 22
graduate school : 8
working : 19
unspecified : 5

hope you find this trival information somewhat interesting.

gray

--
I'm not from here, I just live here.


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 8:49 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: Re: age survey results

On Sat, 7 Jan 1995 20:18:50 -0500 D. Gray Proulx said:
>low age : 16
>high age : 42

just to draw out the trivial information even more, on the rare dave tree forms
, someone was 15, and someone else was 53.....but i cant remember who..
    keith


Posted By: toddb@udel.edu
Time/Date: 8:57 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: DMB & BHT co-headlining?

Whilest i was on South Street today, i heard a radio promo about the 
Tower theatre show.  The radio guy clearly said, (insert radio anouncer 
voice here..) "Big Head Todd!!!!!! with david matthews band.."  and some 
other band which I don't remember.  Also of note was the fact that they 
played BHT snippets, but I didn't hear any dave.  Alas! My point here is 
that it definately sounded like BHT was the headliner.  Anyone else?

On a totally unrelated note, the sandwich i got after standing in the line 
where i heard the promo was the best sandwich i ever had in my WHOLE 
life.  Turkey with cole slaw and rusian dressing on wheat.  It gets the 
TB seal of approval. I strongly reccommend it.

Later.
_______

Todd Beauchamp (toddb@chopin.udel.edu)       
      
Quit School;  make music.
_______


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:38 PM Saturday, January 7, 1995
Subject: minarets size

how many people are subscribers to this list?
do we know? can we find out?
how many people receive all the random babble i post?
this age survey stuff got me curious...
catherine
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