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January 814, 1995

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Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 12:04 AM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: leftover salmon east coast tour dates

January
13 knoxville
14 athens
16 oxford
17 new orleans
18 tuscalusa
20 tuscalusa (frat party)
21 atlanta
23 charlottesville
24 richmond
25 richmond (tentative)
26 ashville
27 winston salem
29 sewanee
31 blacksburg
Feb
1 boone
2 chapel hill
3 dc
4 new york


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You can close your eyes, as long as you can still see the sun


Posted By: jcmuniz@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Time/Date: 12:46 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: # for Burlington tix?

Can anyone send me the phone # for Burlington
tickets? 

Also, I can make copies of the Bender show for
the first few digestified people who ask. Just 
tell me what topic # this message was under.

Gracias,
Kwon


Posted By: bellda@earlham.edu
Time/Date: 1:03 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: cancel subscription

Dear Minarets crew:

	It has been a lot of fun reading all of these Virginia peoples' 
bullshit in my email every morning, but I just do not have the space or 
time anymore. I really only wanted tour dates. 
	Please cancel my subscription.

						Thanks,
							BELLDA


Posted By: pnut@eden.com
Time/Date: 1:42 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Huh?

Just spoke with someone regarding DMB. "Oh,yeah...don't they have that 
circus thing on the cover?  They sound like the Outfield"


um = yeah...
BK


Posted By: pdquinn@nyx.cs.du.edu
Time/Date: 1:59 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: DMB demo tape

Does anybody know who is signing back up on Satellite on the Demo Tape?  
It sounds like a woman, maybe Shannon??????

Just Curious,

Pat


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 2:41 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: I know, i know...

please dont be mad, i rarely post and take up "bandwidth" as you all like 
to call it...

I am interested in getting my hands on the words to "Say Goodbye" This 
past summer  I was sent the lyrics file, but the words arent the same as 
the version that i have (from Ziggys, this past August) I am also 
intersted in getting the chord file for a friend of mine if that is 
possible. My problem is i realize you all will probably tell me i can 
find it in some FTP location, however i have NO idea what that is or how 
it works... so, i am at the mercy of some kind soul out there to send me 
the current lyrics to Say Goodbye and the guitar stuff. Thanks in advance!
Kristin :)


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 3:30 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Re: dave is NOT very big in new york

ThaneEK@aol.com says:

>Let's see...DMB sold out Roseland (cap.3,200) on their own in October...and
>now they're headlining 2 nights....so I suupose they're pretty big,
actually.

Your point being?  Blind Melon sold out Roseland, Candlebox sold out
Roseland, I'm sure Megadeth will sell out 2 nights at Roseland... none of
these bands are unusually large in New York.  I find your tone rather rude.

Besides, you are the one that just a day or two ago was reminding me that
Dave isn't HEADLINING, he's just GOING ON LAST, which of course is the same
thing, but stick with your own opinions, please...

Humph.  It's a pleasure to meet you too.

Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

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    *   "she said it's time i open my eyes           *   ben sterling      *
   *    don't be afraid to open your eyes"          *  nebuious@aol.com   *
  *             maybe she's right."                *     new york, ny    * 
 *                 -tori amos                     *                     *
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Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 3:49 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: hello, thanxs for all the fish, and personals

First a brief hello from the man, the myth, the legend who introduced me and
several other die hard New Yorkers to DMB.  A word now from our hero,
Jonathan Yang:

Just wanted to say hello to all the DMB netters out there.  This is my
first time on MinaretNet, so's  I guess I'm called a newbie.  Is that
uncool?  Anyway, I hope to be on again soon b/c there's a lot of cool stuff
on here re: DMB.  Wanted to see if there are any die hard DMB fans out
there who are also drummers b/c that is what I am.  Would be interested in
corresponding with you and talking about  Carter and what a fuckin' bad ass
drummer he is and just about drums, music, life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness.  Much to peace you all.  Talk to you soon, hopefully.  

Hey Ben T--we just checked out your web page .  Sound and pics are AWESOME.
 We down loaded a few, and I'd like to use 'em for tape covers.  Whaddya
say?

Anyone who can, definitely should take a moment to appreciate the
brilliance created by ben--i.e his http site.  You think I'm over stating
til you've been there.  Kudos.

Gray--I was confused by the Feb 4 NY show.  Thought they were in Boston. 
Do you know something new???

Gavin here (our little Jamaican friend) wants to know if there are any
other Yardies/Trinis/Bajans out there.

About this whole younstas thang...we just want to say, "hands and feet are
all alike but age between divide us..."

Marianne
Gavin
Jonathan (newbie freak)



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Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 4:12 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Recently cover photo

anyone know the names of the girl and the guy on the cover of Recently? I 
swear i know that girl, is her name dierdre?

thanks
Kristin


Posted By: SOFIST@delphi.com
Time/Date: 4:36 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 406

Dave on the RadioL"::

Im out here in SOuthern California and there is a new radio station 101.9 
(Album Alternative) out of Los Angeles that plays Dave just about every day.
Ive heard Sattaallitteiliteellite, What Would You Say, and Best of What's Around about
10 times.  Ripass...

How come it doesnt seem like Dave everMB performs Best of What's Around in concert?

Oh, and about the age s of the fans changing....I saw DMB at the the coachCoach
House in San Jauan and I was about the youngest one in the arocournd (17round (17).
Oh well, ll....eat and dt, drink and be merry.  For tommowrow we die.

Mike


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 5:07 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Re: cancel subscription

dear david michael bell

to cancel your subscription you must send a msg to
listproc@moose.uvm.edu
saying

'unsubscribe minarets'

smiles and hugs, 
(even thought i'm one of those virginia 
people who's bullshit is probably causing you to 
unsubscribe in teh first place...)

clare emily

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Posted By: MOOREC@engr.engr.scarolina.edu
Time/Date: 5:08 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: NEW SONG, STING, AND PAUL SIMON

    Today is the first time I have checked my mail since early
December and I have not had a chance to read all of the posts, but I
did scan through a lot of them and I was suprised to see that no one
mentioned what I think was a new song that was not only played in
Charlotte on the 29th but was created there.  Dave asked the crowd
if it would be alright if they just jammed for a minute.  What he
played on the guitar part was very repetitive and I didn't watch him
really close, but I didn't see him even change chords.  He then begin
to sing something and he seemed to be making it up as he went because
he repeated something over and over.  After it was over with, someone
from the crowd asked what it's name was and he thought for a minute
and then said something which I could not understand.  If anyone has
any info. about this please write me back.  I would love to get this
tape if anyone has it.  After the show I heard Carter say that
they were soon going to be touring with Sting or Paul Simon or both of
them, but if this is true I can not imagine that I am the only one
who has heard this and I do not know why I am the first one to
mention it.  Anyway I've been sitting in front of this computer for
way to long.

later,
Cliff


Posted By: Tagans@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:14 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Jimi Thing single

In Billboard magazine with the Year in Video cover, the music reviews section
reviewed Jimi Thing.  It said the song was avaliable on cassette single.
 I've never seen it, but I've heard the song on WHFS in Washington, each time
with the sax solo at the end left off entirely. I wonder if the cassette
single does the same thing.
Don't remember much about the review other than it said UTTAD was an
"underappreciated album."


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 5:22 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 406

On Sun, 8 Jan 1995 16:45:29 -0500 <SOFIST@delphi.com> said:
>How come it doesnt seem like Dave everMB performs Best of What's Around
> in concert?

   maybe because  you weren't in atlanta on 12.27.94 or in birmingham on 12.28-
-----i was actually wondering the same thing until then...

oh----and kristen?//???  @wake forest...how many different versions of the
say g'bye lyrics do you want?  when i asked him (dave) about why the h'wween
lyrics are different at different shows, he said it was a mood thing, like
say goodbye and something else...he just replaced arbitrary lines periodically

the lyric file might be the best you'll do, short of transcribing em yourself

               keith


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 5:36 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: mechanical freaks, attraction from a distance, shooting stars..

does everyone make a wish on a shooting star?
if so.. why?
is it due to that glimmer of hope
of what
'could be'?
just bein curious i am... cause i once knew someone who didnt' wish on 
stars or wish on anything cause he said that his wishes ever came true..
it's scary.. cause i look at it and none of my wishes have ever come true..
hm.... tell me i'm not a nihilist!!!!?????

'i know what this means, me and jesus few years back used to hang...'

>From: patrick quinn <pdquinn@nyx.cs.du.edu>
>
>Does anybody know who is signing back up on Satellite on the Demo Tape?
>It sounds like a woman, maybeShannon???
>Pat

hm.. this might also be kristin ashbury.. 
from alma and a member of the former c-ville allstars...

let's see..
kristin foster asked about getting a copy of teh say goodbye from ziggy's 
and it not being the same as in the lyrics file.
well.. 
no two versions of say goodbye, still to this day, are teh same.
i heard it twice last weekend and both times it was useless to sing
along to any of teh verses. they weren't the same. 
regardlesss... you might be able to decipher the lyrics froma particular 
show if you want them, but no one else will be ablel to shed any light on 
any formal lyrics... sorry...
(i think [correct me if i'm wrong rick] but that the version that's in 
the lyrics file was because it was a) a lyrically kickass version of the 
song, and b) also it is from when the song was still referred to as 
'quick lay and goodbye'.  anyone? anyone?)
 also.. kristin.. ben sterling can get you the chords file.. mail him at 
nebuIous@aol.com   (by the way.. nice new sig benjamin dear.. smooth..)

hm.. what else?
oh yes.
 mike with a delphi address asks why best of what's around isn't being 
played in concerts anymore..
hm... 
i'm not sure about the rest of you..
but i saw the band twice last weekend, and best was played both nights.
then the two times i saw them in november, best was played both times..
maybe i'm not seeing tham enough.. anyone think
best _is_ getting its' fair shsare of concert-play? 
(not that that's BAD?!?! i love to hear best at a show... no complaints.. 
this was not a complaint [clare doesn't complain] this was.. oh who 
cares... [clare smiles big at everyone....how many smiles does this count 
for mr.toole? huh? huh? better than a girlscout?])

ok. i've done my time.
speaking of doing time..
did you know there's a prison in oregon that manufactures bluejeans?
yup.
their motto is, 
'made on teh inside to be worn on teh outside'
heh heh heh 

i made parole... 
i'm outta he-heeeeeeeeeee-heeeeeeee-heeeeeerrrrrrrrrrre....

clare 'could i have been holden caulfield' emily


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                  cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
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Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 6:28 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: Re: NEW SONG, STING, AND PAUL SIMON

On Sun, 8 Jan 1995 17:15:10 -0500 Clifton Eugene Moore said:
>After the show I heard Carter say that
>they were soon going to be touring with Sting or Paul Simon or both of
>them, but if this is true I can not imagine that I am the only one
>who has heard this and I do not know why I am the first one to
>mention it.

    ok-- one thing carter told ma and bridget and mike and all, was that he
wanted to tour with paul simon.....but that was after mike said something
about taping something with sting......mike said it would be cool....carter
said yea.....see, but then again, he didn't know they were playing a second
night with the symphony....sooo......plus, this was in birmingham, the night be
fore charlotte-----  i highly doubt they got something worked out that
particular day......
                    keith


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 8:07 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: about the dates i posted

i suppose i wasn't clear enough because there have been several questions,

those dates were for leftover salmon and not for dmb

sorry for any confusion,

gray


--
It's ok to close your eyes, as long as you can still see the sun


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:01 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: EDWIN McCain is god...and other thoughts.....

Once again i had the pleasure of seeing and taping Edwin McCain last nite.
But the crux is this, we were talking with him before the show and he 
wanted to hear my copy of his band at Browns Island (before Dave) anyways 
he came back to my house and drank some beers and played nintendo with my 
roomate......the man is hilarious!
anwyas ive rambled on about edwin before....his Watchtower rocks also...

oh yeah a new thought on the best comment. I was at the same four shows 
with Clare and heard best all four times, but when i first read the 
comment, i took it as do the really PLAy it. like whneever ive seen it 
recently, it seems uninspired and BOyd does nothing, i mean ABLSOLUTLEY 
nothign except go hey hey lala hey hey la la oh oh, etc . youknow what i 
mena. NO FIDDLE at all. 
anyways..

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Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 9:58 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: best of tune (was Re: EDWIN McCain is god...and other thoughts..)

On Sun, 8 Jan 1995 21:10:35 -0500 Sir Buford said:
>oh yeah a new thought on the best comment. I was at the same four shows
>with Clare and heard best all four times, but when i first read the
>comment, i took it as do the really PLAy it. like whneever ive seen it
   yea...and i took it that way, too....but....

>recently, it seems uninspired and BOyd does nothing, i mean ABLSOLUTLEY
>nothign except go hey hey lala hey hey la la oh oh, etc . youknow what i
>mena. NO FIDDLE at all.
   ....see, once i thought about it.....a little...see.,,,
i mean, generally i agree with you boofy, but
and in atlanta, the same thing was true.....but
in birmingham, well,.....boyd didnt rock during the somg
or anything, but he played a little, and hey hey l;alalala etc...
but...dave _really_ mumbled ...worse than ive ever heard, and
i know what the words are, and i didnt know they were the same
words....absolutely beautiful....and leroi did jam....no shit...
and stephan even danced a little......they actually seemed
happy to be playing it....reminded me of
warm kittens.... which is a feeling many dmb tunes dont elicit

       keith


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 11:32 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: we are silly little playful creatures, aren't we

Monkeys, gorillas, orangutans everywhere.

National geographic explorer, tonight reminded me of something that 
everyone should always remember:
all work and no play makes jack a very dull boy....

Playful monkeys, running around, knowing nothing better...
happy with their existence...just playing...what a life!

Man, I gotta be a monkey...real soon!

Playing under the table like a monkey....

Shug


Apologies for the lack of dave content, but I'm sure we'll all survive.


Posted By: FIORDALD@carleton.edu
Time/Date: 11:52 PM Sunday, January 8, 1995
Subject: cancel subscription

  thank you
david


Posted By: ThaneEK@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:40 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Re: Jimi Thing single

The Jimi Thing single is a promo-only piece, not available for sale. The CD
version (provided by RCA directly to radio stations) is the edited version
(with the sax solo removed). There are also two cassette singles, both
featuring WWYS and Jimi (full CD version on both); one of these was given
away free in west coast stores for a breif period in December.

Anyway, the only edited version is on the radio single, which also has the
full CD version, plus All Along The Watchtower (Recently EP version) and
Christmas Song (R2T version).


Posted By: cugan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Time/Date: 2:19 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: quit your f*@$ing crying

I am fairly new to email and all that it has to offer.  I have
subscribed to quite a few band mailing lists.  I am also an avid fan
of the Dave Matthews Band.  Unlike most of you fricking jackasses, I
try not to disect every minute aspect that the band, it's fans, where
they hold their concerts, who they open for and any other part that
people who have too much time on their hands and are a little too
disgruntled can't seem to understand that a band that has a really
good sound and are quite entertaining will not stay underground
forever.  Also there shouldn't be an age limit as to who attends a
Dave Matthews Band show.... who gives a rat's ass.  So what if a
person can appreciate good music at the age of 14 or 15 instead of
finally coming around to good taste at a much more 'older' or
'mature' age.  More power to the younger generation.  Why can't you
freaks just enjoy the music... then again you are freaks so you can't
help yourself.  I really don't want to stereotype and throw out all
this negative shit but all I read off this list is a bunch of
candyasses bitching about anything and everything. I might be a
hypocrite, but in reading the lyrics from the disk let me quote from
UTTAD:

	And if you hold on tight to what you think is your thing, you
might find your missing all of the rest.

Well, I must be going because I am starting to frighten myself... I
think Email is getting the best of me.  Quit crying, just enjoy what
this band has to offer.  I'm open for some feedback....to a point,
because I don't want to let this whole ordeal bother me more than it
apparently has.  Peace, love and collagreens.


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:53 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Our crying is our business...

Hey .... if you dont like it.....
Un fucking subscribe ok....
if you want tourdates only, sign the frekain mailing list...
if you want conversation, maybe heated, and jsut rondom cool people...
subscribe...if not go home..

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Posted By: dsb9a@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 7:34 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Re: quit your f*@$ing crying

bitter, bitter, bitter.....

i've seen cops without their doughnuts who were in a better mood than you...

brw

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Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 7:34 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: your crying is yours...

george neri:  you are on other mailing lists?
and this is irritating you?  well then theyre
not as good, imho....
thats the thing....the inho is understood...we are
people talking about whatever the fuck we want, and
its all our honest opinions....

this is as close as youre going to get to a dave.fact.net
so either stay or go....you arent going to hurt our
feelings either way.....

and you want feedback?!?!   fine...
email me personally and give me your damn
phone number....you'll get feedback...

as for the general feeling of your post.....

mail listproc@moose.uvm.edu
in body: unsubscribe minarets.......

keith


Posted By: dsb9a@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 7:49 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Re: your crying is yours...

     way to go keith.  my sentiments exactly.  my brain just can't function
enough to put it in such a nice, heart-felt message this early in the
morning.....

brw

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Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 8:56 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: quit your f*@$ing crying (fwd)

Forwarded message:
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> Subject: quit your f*@$ing crying
> X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas
> X-Comment:  Open discussion for the dave matthews band
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> 
> I am fairly new to email and all that it has to offer.  I have
> subscribed to quite a few band mailing lists.  I am also an avid fan
> of the Dave Matthews Band.


> Unlike most of you fricking jackasses, I
> try not to disect every minute aspect that the band, it's fans, where
> they hold their concerts, who they open for and any other part that
> people who have too much time on their hands and are a little too
> disgruntled can't seem to understand that a band that has a really
> good sound and are quite entertaining will not stay underground
> forever.

Man, talk about a run-on sentence...just exhale, you'll get rid of hot
air much faster.

  Also there shouldn't be an age limit as to who attends a
> Dave Matthews Band show.... who gives a rat's ass.  So what if a
> person can appreciate good music at the age of 14 or 15 instead of
> finally coming around to good taste at a much more 'older' or
> 'mature' age.  More power to the younger generation.  Why can't you
> freaks just enjoy the music... then again you are freaks so you can't
> help yourself.

First off, there's NOT an age limit on the shows, it's just that it sometimes
gets annoying when the little kids start moshing and running into people who
came to "enjoy the music", not wrestle.   Secondly, you obviously have a very
broad definition of "freak"...who are you to call anyone a freak...go join the 
KKK or something, I hear they share the same feelings toward "freaks" as you.

  I really don't want to stereotype and throw out all
> this negative shit but all I read off this list is a bunch of
> candyasses bitching about anything and everything. I might be a
> hypocrite, but in reading the lyrics from the disk let me quote from
> UTTAD:
> 
> 	And if you hold on tight to what you think is your thing, you
> might find your missing all of the rest.


Actually, this quote, help me out minaretters(spelling) if I'm wrong, seems
to be referring to narrow-mindedness...how it can keep you from seeing what's 
really out there...or something like that (sorry, guys, it's early).  anyway, 
you're right, you ARE a hypocrite...calling people freaks who you don't even
know hardly qualifies you as OPEN-MINDED.  Go rent a video on monkeys or
some form of primate that leads a very active lifestyle...soon you'll find
yourself smiling and you'll probably find it in yourself to make an apology
to everyone on this net, who, because they are open-minded, will accept, and
go about their merry way, like happy little monkeys.

Coffee, smokes, yawns, and happy monkey thoughts...

Shug



> Well, I must be going because I am starting to frighten myself... I
> think Email is getting the best of me.  Quit crying, just enjoy what
> this band has to offer.  I'm open for some feedback....to a point,
> because I don't want to let this whole ordeal bother me more than it
> apparently has.  Peace, love and collagreens.
>


Posted By: kadams@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 10:43 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: This makes me sad

Well, well, well... if this net hasn't become bitter.  I'm not talking 
about any particular people either.  First off, I could say that I've 
been on this net longer than most of you have been in college, but then, 
that would call for all of you to proceed to bitch me out, telling me 
that there`s nothing wrong with new fans, etc. ,etc...  Well you're 
perfectly right.  There is nothing wrong.  The more the merrier.  I mean, 
what the fuck was that comment about that guy calling us freaks and 
someone replying that he should go join the KKK???  If you all would 
bother using, oh, context clues maybe you wouldn't be so quick in yanking 
a random word out of someone's post and bashing them. Sure he used the 
word freaks, I think I'm intelligent to figure out what he meant.  Jeez, 
people say things when they're blowing off steam.  And also this teeny 
bopper thing has gotten way out of line.  It's not a question of age.  
Period.  I know plenty of college kids and graduates that are moshing 
fuckups, for lack of a more appropriate term.  And yes, some of our 
younger friends do that too.  Let's just say they are concert etiquette 
impaired.  Too many trips to Lollapalooza if you ask me.  Anyway, I'm 
sure many of you would like to make some big nasty comment on something 
I said, take it way out of context, andmake yourself look like a badass, 
but please direct these comments to me, personally.  Please spare the 
rest of the net from this bullshit, and have some respect for others.For 
some (that was SOME, not ALL, got it?) of you, these keyboards offer you 
some twisted sense of power, huh? Probably if you had met the person that 
you are currently yelling at at some Dave show a year or two ago, you all 
would be talking about that really cool show way back when, deciding when 
to trade tapes, and telling drunken tales of hanging out with Carter and 
the boys last New Year's eve, but I digress.  I've said enough.  
Sometimes it's really disconcerting to see how cruel people can be.  Oh, 
and for those of you that think this was directed toward or originated 
from a particular persons post, you are right.  About 100 or so since 
about spring of `94.  Later.
Katharine Adams
kadams@wlu.edu
P.S.  I hope that alll of you that have been ablu to see the band since 
Nov. (poor me) have been enjoying yourselves.  I'm living vicariously 
through you and your comments.  Anyone know when there coming back 
this-a-way?


Posted By: FORTINJS@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU
Time/Date: 10:56 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 408

Olah,
	Not to beat the subject to death but, the DMB crowd is starting to turn
into what i hoped it wouldn't.  Excluding people on net, and others that listen
to the music because it emtionally moves them. I'm just afraid that DMB if
turnoing into a fad. Got i hate to fuckin; say it but it's true.  I have not
been to a show since the video came out but i suspect it is even worse, now.
Everywhere i go people say cool hat(DMB tobogan hat), and say that video's
awesome.  I hate to sound like i'm better than them, but they have no idea what
the music is about and act like die hard fans. Fuck i know i sound like i'm
back talking but my concern is toward the overall enjoyment of the music for
the fans as well as the band. If i was Dave i'd flip if people started moshing.
Grow up, and enjoy. In a sense i feel to blame because i ayways told people
about DMB when they had a small following and now it is,(atleast for me) to
much of a following.  Can anyone say influence of RCA and BIG BUSINESS. So to
help i no longer tell people about the band. Hell it might do nothing, and it
might be top late. I just want it to be back to the way it was a few years ago.
And KIETH if you are reading i'm one of those fraternity guys who as in your
words "turning it into a frat. party."   NOT.
Well we all knew this was going to happen, DMB is to good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	The Chaud into the light.


Posted By: Timothy.D.Kennedy@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 11:11 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: cancel subscription

please.
thanks.
tim


Posted By: magar@knox.edu
Time/Date: 11:13 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: questions, thoughts, and happy thoughts

First, my question:
 
My absolute favorite DMB song right now is Say Goodbye which I have on a 
boot from the Fox Theatre show in April (I think.  Don't have the tape on 
me).  Is this available on an album or are there any plans to include it 
someday?  

Next, something I saw this weekend:

At our local K-Mart, they have this thing where you can push a button and 
watch a 30 second clip from a video or film.  The selection varies from 
month to month.  When I was there yesterday, they had a video clip from 
"What Would You Say" right there between Des'ree and Boys II Men.  Weird.


Lastly, I want to apologize for helping to fuel the great age debate.  I 
took things out of context and was generally bad.  Sorry.

Peace to everyone,

Mel
magar@knox.edu


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 11:18 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: questions about rhyme or reason

	i have been thinking about this for awhile, have you noticed how rhyme  
or reason has changed since it's beginning?  i know i don't have the first time  
it was played but i do know i have  a copy of it in it's beginning form....dave  
plays it solo opening on 1.19.93.  at the end of the song he says something  
like, "i don't know that one either" or something like that.  The lyrics to  
that version and 3.23.93 or pretty similar but when you compare them to a more  
recent version, say the cd, they are worlds apart.  Come to think of it, there  
aren't many of the same words in the 1.19 or 3.23 version and the cd version at  
all.  i only have 5 or 6 versions of the song so i can't follow it's  
transformation too well, but i was wondering if there was a middle version  
between these 2 that i've mentioned...or even a version that was different  
before 1.19.93.
	also, when was it first played?
	
	on my way,
	joe
	
	p.s. does anyone remember that "vicious" argument last year, maybe  
winter, between, i think it was rick and spice...if i am wrong i  
apologize....but i do remember part of it had to do with rhyme or reason,  
wasn't it?  i know there was more to it but i thought rhyme or reason was in  
their somewhere....


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 11:27 AM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: one more song question

when did after her "turn into" satelite?


Posted By: messierb@ucsub.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 12:29 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: positive thoughts?

Boy oh boy, all this nasty talk makes me think I am still on Phish.net or 
something!  I agree that there is some serious potential for things to 
get ugly at Dave shows, moshing, kids yelling, too many kids in general 
(if you think that is a problem), etc.  But, alas, there is still hope.  
For all of you people at NYE did you get harrased by hundreds of cops 
after the show, just cuz you were there.  Well I was at Phish, and for no 
good reason.  Things could and might be a hell of a lot worse.  I think 
we just need to keep calm level heads about this and try and work things 
out.  But then again I used to think that way about Phish too :-(

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: Shyone5000@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:03 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: tr3 dates with tim reynolds

hey everyone...i just got the word...and the word is:

TIM REYNOLDS IS TAKING TR3 ON THE ROAD!!!!!!

The 4 Dates are:

1/11/95 @ Ziggy's in W-S, NC
1/12/95 @ THe Raven & Crow (Have no Idea Where this is..HELP!)
1/20/95 @ Miller's in C'Ville (The birthplace of DMB!!!)
1/21/95  "      "       "     "



See you there!


Posted By: GOTTLIEB@BU4090.BARRY.EDU
Time/Date: 1:14 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Moshing?

I am a big fan of DMB, but I have never been to a show(how embarrassing!).
Anyway, I was just curious, what song would people mosh to at a Dave
show?  I guess moshing can be a tad annoying if you're groovin' to
a tune and someone puts their size 12s in your butt.  I remember when
I was at the Univ. of Pittsburgh, they had this band that we used to
see all of the time called "The Affordable Floors."  People used to
mosh to one of their songs called "Wedding Ring," and we used to run
for the hills.  One time a waitress was caught just as the song started
and ended up in the middle of a feeding frenzy.  Man, it was ugly.
Here's hoping there are some considerate, sensitive moshers out there.
How about the highland fling instead?

Out of the farmland and into the grid,

Adam


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 1:46 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: apologies

To all who were offended (especially the person I flamed),

I apologize for the rash outburst earlier today, all that shit about KKK and 
whatever else (I'm sure all of you remember that post) was a bunch of early-
morning frustration that had built up from a long night of programming...
sorry folks, i'm a schmuck....and sorry to the person whose message I ripped,
if you could, please, forgive I would be eternally grateful.  I've been
on this net for some time (not as long as some others, granted) and I've 
never felt the need to(or saw the point in) flaming someone for their opinion.
I still don't, I'm not sure why I did it...but anyway, I was bad :-(

I'll be good from now on   :-), I promise.

Hiding under the table,
Shug


Posted By: hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu
Time/Date: 1:52 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Newbies, youngsters, hippie freaks and Chevrolet

	Sing along with me now...This whole atmosphere lately has been quite 
predictable actually, as a feeling of deja vu comes over me.  I've been on the
Spin Doctors net since late 1991 and with the rise of a cool jamming 
obscure band to pop stardom (DMB;s not quite there yet), I've heard and seen 
the same thing. 
	 My advice to those longing for the early days of Trax gigs and 
acoustic sets, wait a year or so for the dust to settle when the newbie band
wagon people jump off,failing to realize that there is much more to DMB than
Satellite and Ants, just as there is a lot more to the Docs than Two Princes 
and Lil Miss. Look at the Docs now, back doing a club tour with Rusted Root,
off MTV, and a sophomore album that has "only" sold 500,000 copies.     
	Some of you die-hards might be appalled that I would compare
the situations of DMB to SD, but as seeing this happen to both bands, 
many similarites exist, although I'm sure people will be quick to point out
the differences...Just a thought

Waiting for Dave to come the sun...
Brian
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 Department of Chemistry    hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu     DRIVE FOR FIVE
 University of Florida                                        IS ALIVE!!
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Posted By: flats@WPI.EDU
Time/Date: 2:25 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: what'd they play on NYE?

I'm sorry if this has been asked before but I was unsubcribed over break
so as not to get swamped, but could someone email me the New Years Eve 
setlist.  Much appreciated.

						thanks,
						flats@wpi.edu


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:32 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Re: tr3 dates with tim reynolds

On Mon, 9 Jan 1995 Shyone5000@aol.com wrote:

> hey everyone...i just got the word...and the word is:
> 
> TIM REYNOLDS IS TAKING TR3 ON THE ROAD!!!!!!
> 
> The 4 Dates are:
> 
> 1/11/95 @ Ziggy's in W-S, NC
> 1/12/95 @ THe Raven & Crow (Have no Idea Where this is..HELP!)
> 1/20/95 @ Miller's in C'Ville (The birthplace of DMB!!!)
> 1/21/95  "      "       "     "
> 

the raven and the crown is here in lexington --see ya there!!!
tjp


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 2:32 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: dave on vh1

to all that may be interested in seeing dave on tv, he is supposed to be 
doing a walk on on vh1 (darcy's music, or something)

the walk on was supposed to be today so i would suspect it would be aired 
tonight.

might be worth checking out.

gray


--
It's ok to close your eyes, as long as you can still see the sun


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:37 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Sannon Worrell

She will be playing in lexington at the raven & crown this tues at 9:30

also tr3 (tim reynolds kick ass jazz gig) will be there thurs night

I'll see you all there..at least at the tr3 show - i have a radio program 
to do tues night tune in if you can..


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drugs- I am drugs."  *p.o. box 131 *********   some spooky stuff going on in
-Dali                *Lexington VA 24450****   there, and its GREEN too!!"
                     ***********************           -Slater


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:27 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Shannon and Tim etc

As previously stated but to add to it...

At the Raven and Crown in Lexington Va...
which is a small basement type pub....the bands will take up 1/4 of the 
space...
Jan 10 Shannon Worrell and friends...ie when i tlaked to her on NYE at 
the marriot, she said it would be her and some other chicks, doing what 
she called a "fun garage type band thing"
Jan 12 Tim and TR3.....tim usually plays here solo, but if someone has 
said TR3 will be there, then all more the better....
Jan 10 me and clare emil and emily a in the audience at shannon worrell
heheheheh
anyways....

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Posted By: cumm@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Time/Date: 3:37 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Unsubscribing

I've been trying to unsubscribe, but I cannot do it.  This is what
I've been doing, tell me if it's wrong..

I mail the message:

Unsubscribe Minarets

to this address:  listproc@moose.uvm.edu


If this is wrong, someone please tell me.  I'm sick and tired of
everyone bitching and moaning about every little thing.  And also
that one letter that started all of the flames is a guy from my
school.  In some ways he is totally right!  As a matter of fact, in
most ways he was totally right!


Posted By: @uunet.uu.net:dcez!dinatale
Time/Date: 4:24 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: DC area guitarists

I'm looking to get together with other guitarists in the DC area who 
would like to get together for some laid back jamming.  Right now the 
music I listen to & play the most- Phish, DMB, G.Love & Special Sauce, 
& Nirvana.


Jim DiNatale


Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 6:07 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: UTTAD in BMG!!

Hey there all - 
	For a company that I thought had no taste, BMG now has a hold of
UTTAD.  I saw its cover on one of those pages of "stamps" they send to new
people to seduce them into becoming members.  I'm sure you all know those
10 for the price one deals.  Well anyway, just thought I'd tell you it's 
not often I like their new material - It'd make me sign up if I didn't 
have the album yet.

		Under the Table and Hiding-

			Steve


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 6:11 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: help

hey all, i finally figured out how to use ftp (hurray!) but now dont know 
what software i need to listen to the sounds and view the pictures.. i 
have a powermac 6100/60   can anyone point me in the right direction?
thanks.
Kristin


Posted By: SLY@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Time/Date: 7:18 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 412

HEY guys, I am still here, just chillin' with a few new tapes...what is
all this _shit_ I see in our digests?  From some guy telling _US_ to quit
bitching-I live in Missouri(yes, there is more than farms here) and am so
psyched when I see a new little tidbit on our band or someone who mentions
a new(or just improved) part of a song.  Maybe alot of you will think it is 
uncool, but I suggest we just drop this topic-it is obviously another one
of those BORED people who _LOVE_ pissing other people off!  Give him hell 
and ignore him...if it happens again, lets _ALL_ send a copy of the lyrics
file to his mailbox, along with the FAQ, maybe even throw in the Dead lyrics
file-you know....until he wont be able to login?  Just ignore him, if he 
still doesn't get it, LETS BOMB HIS ASS!  Sorry to all you guys who are 
pacifists-but this is so uncool(not to mention simply DUMB).
What do you guys think-we could all get together if it happens again-but
chances are he wont read all of our bitching at him, unless it is private
mail.  In a nutshell, let's keep the net free of bitching, and FULL of our
little disecting of each and every aspect of the band.  
This was just my two-make any flames constructive(please).
Thomas


Posted By: eahofstede@ucdavis.edu
Time/Date: 7:52 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Mother Hips

I just obtained twenty five new Mother Hips tunes which are studio 
outtakes all of which are unreleased.  Of friend of mine is close to the 
band and somehow got a hold of the material.  For those back east who 
might be unfamiliar with the Mother Hips, they are definitely the coolest 
band out her in northern California.  They hail from Chico, Ca. and their 
self produced cd is to be released nationwide on Feb. 14.  You may be 
aware of the band through AWARE which sets up booths at the HORDE shows 
and pushes bands like DMB, Jackopierce, etc.  If anyone is interested 
write me back and we can work some kind of trade, if not when presented 
the opportunity check out the Mother Hips you will definitely enjoy 
them.


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:26 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Re: help

On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, KEP wrote:

> hey all, i finally figured out how to use ftp (hurray!) but now dont know 
> what software i need to listen to the sounds and view the pictures.. i 
> have a powermac 6100/60   can anyone point me in the right direction?
YES....you send me your powermac, and ill send you my outdated LCII..
no just kidding....
you will need JPEGview or some other picture viewer to look at the gifs..
these should be available somewhere to ftp, although i dont know where..
to hear the sounds you need SoundMaster..which is available at netspace.org.
if you access the sounds through the html page
(http://netspace.org/pub/DMB) it has a link to ftp this program, which i 
did and its a great little program. JPEGview is realatively easy to find 
i think....check on school macs, thats where i get alot of neato programs.

I know Ben Tanen can tell us what netspace has. check /pub/software (i 
think) next time you ftp....
Chris (i spent two weeks figureing out ftp and http during exams) Buford
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Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 9:27 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: ok ok ok ok okokokokoblahhhhhhhhhhchew :)

as to all the recent bickering.....my arms _can_ reach around the country
and if anyone continues with anger i _will_ show up at your doorstep and 
hug you till you giggle or toot. :)
yep, i said toot

jeez that's a pretty big hug eh?

i've asked this before but i'll ask again.
anyone know what harmonica peter is playing on so much to say?

has anyone's power gone out so that the blinking time is the correct time?
 
does that mean that my alarm went out exactly at 12?
boy i'm confused.

a smile from clare vs. a smile from a girlscout?
hmmmmmmmmm
clare, that girlscout was pretty darn cute.....heh heh

oh, i still haven't seen the video yet but my granny says she has.  i 
think she's just trying to spite me because i won't take her to a show.
and she's dying to hear the song named after her.....:)

really tight hugs and really messy lollipop goo in my beard
 :) dave toole

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Posted By: dlc@well.sf.ca.us
Time/Date: 10:15 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: Bad trader alert

Didn't want to have to do this but hopefully it'll save someone else from
the same mistake..  DON'T TRADE WITH JCDAVIS@WAM.UMD.EDU 
After he contacted me about a trade, I mailed out his tape within 24 hours
and he said he'd send mine right out.  After several weeks and no tape, he
gave me a bizarre story and promised to send it right out.  Several more
weeks, still no tape, another story, another promise to send it out. Several
more weeks, still no tape, another promise to send it out.  Several more
weeks no tape and now no more replies which leads me to believe there was
never any intent to send it.  So avoid getting ripped off, don't trade with
   jcdavis@wam.umd.edu


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 10:35 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: positivness in negativity

  ok--- first of all....for michael mirusen:
if mailing to listproc is not working for you, then may i suggest that
you are doing it wrong.  either that, or a lot of people have
been lying, because it seems to work for everyone else.  and if
nothing else, who remembers the part of the intro letter that
says:  any problems?....contact the list's owner.  not the
list, but the owner...or try being creative...unsub minarets
or some variation...surely you are not so one dimensional that
you tried the same thing over and over, and then posted to the
list.  be creative, friend....or give me your site and password, and
ill unsubscribe you myself....guaranteed (or you get 5 free 3 cent stamps)

and to this guy:
On Mon, 9 Jan 1995 19:26:37 -0500 THOMAS (POSTER NUTBAG) SLY
man, your post was cool, but i must argue the validity of one statement...
>it is obviously another one
>of those BORED people who _LOVE_ pissing other people off!
   not a flame, thomas, but he probably
seriously believes everything he said...

  but here's the point of this post:
among the negativity and bitching in the last couple days,
there is one really cool thing going on....

i realise it is a stretch to be an eternal optimist, but
it always works out in the end.. :) :)

people have been really good about one thing:  and i notice
it primarily because i am on other mailing lists, and i see the
difference...
  when someone says something, people are generally good about responding
  in a thoughtful manner.....this would be in diametrical opposition of,
  say..., the phish.net.....yep..what japhy and molly said was right..

not too many people are too terribly defencive, here....when i recieve
something that simply says 'you posts are idiotic' i just reply with
one of those 'who the fuck are you to tell me that' kind of posts, and
i have recieved a good answer EACH time.....
that is increadibly cool, because, on the phishnet, if you say that,
you get a post that is not an apology, but rather something like this:
'Ill tell you who the fuck i am...i am someone who has known phish for
eighty million years, and that makes me better than you, and you are an ass'

am i over-generalising?   well, of course, but here i almost always
get.."yeah, im sorry --i thought this" or "that was how i took it"

much better.....and i gave given several apologies myself...
because, no a keyboard doesnt give me anymore power than anyone else.
 i believe whoever said that was slightly out of line, although i agree
somewhat.....and yes, i know you said SOME people get the sense of
power....i highly doubt you could tell me who those people are, though....
some people just have a different rhetoric style...it's like the thing
about having fun at shows......all different kinds of people, of all different
ages, have fun at shows....and i hate the way some of them do it...
but that doesnt make them wrong, it just makes me less like them.
some people like to pretend they know everything....fine...just let them
know they are wrong, in your opinion.

im not ragging on the phish net, or else id unsubscribe, but there,
a thread will go on for 3 weeks, about something retarded, and everyone's
hateful responses to that, and everyone's defencive responses to that, and
on and on and on and on.....

but, some people take it a little far, and i want to defend one of them

(melessia)? agar...@knox.something.....you know who im talking about....
right?   well, she apologised for helping start the age thread, and i
just stared at my screen, and then went to sleep...but i had a dream that
everyone here jsut started apoligising for everything....
....blah blah blah blah"
.."oh yea?  Fuck You!!!"
...."oops, sorry, i meant blah the other way"
.."oh, sorry.  if you didnt mean it like that, sorry i said fuckyou"
...."its ok, im sorry i messed up in the first place"
.."well, then im sorry i wrote you and wasted bw"
...."oh...im sorry you had to write in the 1st place due to my error"
.."im sorry i made you realise you made an error"

i promise that would not work.....it is in the fourth line, where
people abandon that, and begin talking about something meaningful...to them

the point?    oh yeah....kudos to mellissa (or whatever her name is) agar
for helping start that thread.....it wasn't a terribly bad one to check
out from time to time...and it generated an interesting poll....as long
as it doesn't get perpetuated for 9 years, but rather just come up now
and again.....

and i looked through messages on a friend's account this morning, since he
hadnt checked them from break, yet....and the first time it had been mentioned
in a while (unless i missed something) was on my setlist post for either the
birmingham show, or the atlanta show.....but since this is a talking net...
then starting threads is good....

toole...go hug mel agar....

and no i dont know about the harmonica peter's playing
sorry.....   :)

well, this has turned out much longer than i expected.....but i still
think we should be happy that this net is generally the way it is...

because it could be like phish.net, and be angst center....or it could be
like root-tribe, where 75% of the posts are...."Hi my name is Keith, and
i am from Albuquerque, NM....but I am in Medical school in Tuscaloosa, AL
now.....i have seen dave live 31 times.....and i love proquepines"....or it
could be like widespread panic's where there are about two messages a day...
or it could be like the MTWA.net where i have yet to not be confused by what
they were talking about...or it could be like really deep thoughts, where
talk of illegal boots and scalping seems welcomed, or it could be like
horde net, where i seem to be getting both the digests AND each individual
post, and i can't change it....or it could be like lorenna mckinnik's list,
which i get delayed 3 days, or it could be like the punk net where the prime
topic of conversation is 902105930091 and you get flamed for talking about
punk........

but it's not...

it's like minarets, where people who are more friends than enimies, more
passive than mailbox flood happy, more positive than outwardly and
unjustifiably negative, more caring than defencive, and more happy than
angst ridden, can get together, and discuss......discuss whatever

and even cooler.....the enemies, mailbox flood happy, outwardly and
unjustifiably negative, and defencive people are respected here, too.
everyone is free to speek their minds...and that is accepted.....until
someone says to stop bitching, at which point, people usually stop.
They stop partially because (in mho) they also respect us in return....

if one of those other nets sounds more appealing, then chances are you
will be welcomed there with open arms.   Just dont tell US to change,
unless you have a justifiable reason you think we are missing......and
there are certianly times when this is appropriate....i have a 2000 line-long
list of different bands addresses (no, tanen, havnt done anything with it yet)
and i will be happy to supply anyone with any directions i have, if they
think they will be happier elsewhere, or if they just want to peruse another
list(s).

is this a touch hypocritical?   Yes.....but to the left.
there is a fine line between freedom of speech......and the phish.net

but im not ragging on the phish net....it's just not for me as much as
as this.....and i met a guy at the birmingham show, who said everything we
talked about was trivial, and he didnt read it too much....wonderful
how could i possibly not want him to be happy?  i didnt say piss off....
minarets is killer, becaus he obviously didnt agree.....

that's just one of the ways i differed from him.....

now, if you will excuse me, i have to go make sure a girl who absolutely
adores satellites got my instructions on how to get on.....even though we
differ in that satellites is my next to least favourite song, while i love
halloween.....

and i have to write clare (i think----did you say i owed you mail, or
you owed me mail?)
hehehe----NOW you owe me mail
miss clareemily.....
which, ive been meaning to ask you.....
do you (or anyone else for that matter) know of
anywhere that sells pumpkin pj's?

and then, i have to go help a guy, who two days ago called me
a pointless idiot (or something like that), get the faq and
lyrics file, because i told him that was part of his problem
and he was very responsive, and willing to see my side....

and on the off chance that any 3 newbies, with less than 5 hours
got this far, OR *anyone* with a high high quality bela fleck
tape got this far, email me, if you would....just gimme the
subject as newbie offer, and i will respond if you make the cut...
ill give you a choice of three shows......but i dont know what yet

 peace
      keith

ps---so ben.....did YOU read the whoole thing?


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:06 PM Monday, January 9, 1995
Subject: WOW!

hmmmmmm...kieth, you thought about writing novels...heheh

umm some intersting info for those who had metioned johnny clegg earlier.
some pics and sound bytes can be found at the Internet Underground 
Musical Archive (IUMA). 
http://sunsite.unc.edu/ianc/index.html
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/electronic-publications/IUMA 
along wiht a ton of other bands...
its pretty cool stuff....
I recommend the ftp method, its kinda easier to get around....

Toole:all the hugs in the world cant get a bent key to fit in a doorknob

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Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 1:10 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Location of the vidio taping

It was filmed inboulder.  I have the bootleg where dave
says,"you all are so friendly we thought this would be the
perfect place to film a vidio, sorry about the kitchen like 
atmosphere"  the boot I have doesn't have wwys on it though.
 Maybe it was in the other set.  Who knows.  I guess the
kitchen like atmosphere refers to the light.  Hopefully I
can get the other set.  Just trying to be of some assistance

Clarke Browne


Posted By: pauly@li.net
Time/Date: 1:12 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: subscribe

subscribe


Posted By: lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU
Time/Date: 2:37 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Video...

	As far as the video goes....

		On November 17th DMB played the Fox Theater in Boulder, 
and after the show he invited 
everyone back for a show around 4 the next day....they played with the 
lights on for a little while...they played these songs: Best of What's 
Around, WWYS, Satellite, Rhyme & Reason, The Song That JAne Likes, Jimi 
Thing, and then WWYS once again for the video shoot....then later on, 
they turned the lights out and kicked some ass...i believe they took some 
footage from that night's show as well...but, what sucked about that 
nights show was that someone lunged a beer bottle at Dave right after 
playing Warehouse and before Say Goodbye...he was really sketched out 
about the whole incident.  Who's the bastard that threw the bottle? 
Anyway, that is the story behind the video.  My friend is in it!  At that 
night's show he let's the audience sing "People in every direction, no 
words exchanged, no time to exchange" then he comes in to continue the 
song...pretty cool!  So, just wondering, anyone know the Samples net 
address and how to join?  Later.

		"Life is just too good to be true"


Posted By: lund4649@blue.UnivNorthCo.EDU
Time/Date: 2:44 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Video...

	A few more things that Dave said the night before the video shoot:

	Some girl gave Dave a bad look when he said they were making a 
video, and Dave replied, "That little girl's thinking, 'Don't make a 
video.  That'll mean you suck."  

	Also, he said, "We thought we would make a video of us playing 
live, cuz that's what we do best"  "If any of you have any free time 
around 3 o'clock tomorrow, you could come down here and maybe hang out 
with us and drink some beer....and dance around and fuck around"

	And, "I'll never forget the boys from the east"


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 3:44 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: i'll lay my head in your lap, just twirl my hair in your fingers

such an interesting day.
really.

i'll begin by saying, that i woke up early early early
in much pain.
so sleepily i stumbled into the bathroom
and roooted around in teh cabinets for 
drugs.
(legal drugs. only legal drugs)
and i found one type of (legal) drug
that met my likings
so:
although the directions said, 'take one every six to eight hours'
i was in a lot of pain.
i took two right there.
needless to say, i then woke up at 4pm.
my day was gone.
anyway.. when i woke up i had had a trippy dream
(ie: the trippy medicine which did its' job NICELY)
and i was singing exodus.
weird, huh?
then i read my inbox and there was mucho hate mail.
it was not happy for me. it was not a happy way to start my day.
(on top of the drugs).
so.
i went about my way.
then.. i checked my mail again.. few minutes ago.
and i'm so happy.
i really am.
wonderful mail from so many wonderful people on this net.
yes.
this net.
MINARETS.NET
i love you all.
dave toole wants to offer a hug to you all.
and so do i.
there were so many nice things said to, and about the members of this 
net, and there was a lot of love and comfort.
good energy, good karma, and high levels of consciousness.
it made my heart purrrrrr.

so. then i had lovely drunk mail from nebuious. and it made me wonder why 
buford doesn't send drunk mail anymore.. hm... but i'll see ya tomorrow 
silly boopster and i'll scold ya then. 

so. also.
about bad traders.
i had a nasty flinch when i read that letter.
whoa-boy.
i must confess.
i am guilty.
i still have tapes of ever-so-patiend
cliff's
to send
and i am a bad trader.
i have had them a long time. but i do vouch my firstborn (or jason 
thompson's... who's ever comes first) that you will get yoru tapes.
life has had me on a see-saw lately.
(how much time does lately encompass?
i mean.. can lately include the last few days?
weeks? 
months? how lately is lately, exactly?)
lately (few months.. builtup to the last month)
i've been busy
giving myself all the love i deserve
and many other things in my life have
happened to take a backseat to my own
self-preservation and nourishment...
SO
since i 
feel like i'm back to the person
i remember, and the person i vow never to
loose again..
i will begin to slowly take on the responsibilites
i owe others.
but still not let myself get lost in the  duration of the travels.
cliff, like i said.. you get jason's firstborn. [wink] AND the tapes!

well then i'm off, 
cause i've got a date at 4am. (aren't i a kook?) hee hee

here's the long love-extended version of my sig...
enjoy...

spoons and love 
and my color green (not your green, my green)
clare emily

*******************************************************************************
'men of the earth, brothers in eternity, shake your souls awake.  the hour so
long waited for, the promised hour, has come over the dark firmament of 
suffering. humanity is rising.  the morning star heralding the day when you
will understand that man's most sacred duty is to be man.  that is to manifest
LIFE INTELLIGENCE TRUTH and LOVE.  there is no higher aim, no vaster problem. 
and you who realize this will break the fetters which ignorance and fear have
bound.  unconscious humanity will stand up free and know yourselves to be the
eternal manifestation of the unmanifest.  witnesses of the absolute, sons of
that great all whom you call GOD.'      
		                                        
                  cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
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Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 3:52 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: dave on vh1

It (the video) was on at 3:25 EST on VH1 on a segment called Darcy's 
Music hosted by Moon Zappa. No walk on. She just said that Dave has been 
compared to Sting and that the album is 'extraordinary'...nothing special.

Dave

> to all that may be interested in seeing dave on tv, he is supposed to be 
> doing a walk on on vh1 (darcy's music, or something)
> 
> the walk on was supposed to be today so i would suspect it would be aired 
> tonight.


Posted By: 72672.1776@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 4:14 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: all the little buggers are marching...

hey y'all late nighters, i'd like to tell a little story about my tiny little 
friends:

i like Sprite.   alot.   i drink alot of it.   when i visit home, my parents 
just unload a case or two into my room, and i pop one open every ten mintutes 
or so.    Sprite, essentially, is carbonated sugar water, but that doesn't 
bother me, as long as it doesn't go flat, it's still good.

well, sometimes, as i type away on the little SE/30 here, i lose track of 
which cans have gone flat out of neglect, and, well, the ants that live 
outside my window didn't.    

it's common knowledge that ants don't like carbonation, by the way.   they 
WAIT (patient little guys) until it goes flat.    

so, returning to my room after a short hiatus from Minarets, i find that ALL 
THE LITTLE ANTS ARE MARCHING RIGHT TO THE SPRITE CAN NEXT TO THE WINDOW.    
normally, i would freak out (i HATE insects)-- but, suddenly, Dave started 
singing in my head, and i didn't mind cleaning up the mess.    they were 
rather cute, really.    

they were all doing it the same way, in this little line to and fro the can.  
 i watched them for a while, but eventually it was Raid time.    

now, my room smells like Raid, but at least i'm alone... i think.    no, i'm 
not a slob.    i just like Sprite.    and so do my little friends.    

so, next time you skip track 7 on UTTAD, or lean on the fast forward button 
while listening to R2T, think about the modern wonder of carbonation and thank
Dave for his Ants.    

goodnight, and beware the Allman Brothers on David Letterman!   (i liked the 
trio from Hastings, though...)   ;)

-anyoneotherthanme

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
read.    listen to dave.    nap.    strum... strum.    eat.
read.   read.   listen to dave.   hear dave.    write.   read.

repeat until they all do it the same...
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Swarthmore College     dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081   sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 8:55 AM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Hugs and how they relate to car keys...

On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, i am a goddess not your mother wrote:

> so. then i had lovely drunk mail from nebuious. and it made me wonder why 

Uh Oh.....im gonna have to report this to the authorities.....
Shame on you Ben, so young, and already in a life of drinking...

> buford doesn't send drunk mail anymore.. hm... but i'll see ya tomorrow 
> silly boopster and i'll scold ya then. 
I decided letting an entire mailing list know i was drunk was kinda 
stoopid...

Well, i have to be going to class, its 8:53 am uhhggg!

Rember, just becasue they're safety pops, doesn't mean they won't stick 
to everything.....and watch Goonies again....its really a greazt movie...
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Posted By: @uvmvm.uvm.edu:TWOSTEP@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU
Time/Date: 12:17 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject:

   I was just wondering if there was a Widespread Panic net and if
so does anyone have it?  My roomate wants to do some trading and
figures that the net would be the easiest way.  By the way, since
some of you seem to know more about what DMB is doing than the band
itself, when are they coming back down to Athens?  Also
does anybody (I'm sure some do) have the bootlegs of DMB and Tim
Reynolds from like 12-3-93, innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncredible!  When you
get bored with new shit, put that baby in, probably the best
Say Goodbye and Minarets around.  Anyways I'd appreciate it if
someone could send me the Panic net address.
T.


Posted By: TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu
Time/Date: 12:19 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 413

If anyone out there has any Acoustic Kouka bootlegs Ill be happy to
trade with U .I have PHish, Dmb, ANY dEAD. pLEASE RESPOND IF YOU ARE
INTERESTED!!!!!!!

            THANX..............TROY


Posted By: matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 12:22 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: New DMB fans

> Now, To the old DMB fans...
> I can't decide how I feel about the radio play.  The video on MTV is pushing
> it way far and I don't know how much more I can handle. My problem is that I
> know this is way selfish because the band has a right to be successful, but
> when people go around bad-mouthing the first two albums and saying that the
> live version of Ants Marching is not as good as the one on UTTAD I get very
> upset.  What do ya think?
> Have a nice day!
> ROn

My question is, why does it *really* matter if it is or isn't? 
We all pay Dave respect by listening to his music, and I guess
someone might owe us something, somehow, but *they're* the
musicians, not us. They can do and write anything they want, which
means that we don't own them. Sure we can stop paying them any
attention if we don't like what they're doing, but they're the
ones creating, not us. 

So I guess it kind of bothers me when people say they like the older
version of Ants better just as it bothers me when people say they 
like the newer version better. We don't create, so who are we to 
judge? And what if the band really hates the dueling banjos part of Ants 
and they never want to do it again? What do we do then? Do we tell
them to stop changing and evolving however they see fit? Maybe the
reason a lot of newbies like the new version of Ants better is 
because it *is* better, and vets like the old version better 'cause
they're used to it. Hmm... Interesting way to think about it.

In any case, I say, let them do what they think is right and leave
people who like the new version of Ants alone.

Bye for now,
Matt


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:29 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Spreadnet subscription info...

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Posted By: matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 12:50 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: all the little buggers are marching...

> hey y'all late nighters, i'd like to tell a little story about my tiny little 
> friends:
> 
> i like Sprite.   alot.   i drink alot of it.   when i visit home, my parents 
> just unload a case or two into my room, and i pop one open every ten mintutes 
> or so.    Sprite, essentially, is carbonated sugar water, but that doesn't 
> bother me, as long as it doesn't go flat, it's still good.
> 
> well, sometimes, as i type away on the little SE/30 here, i lose track of 
> which cans have gone flat out of neglect, and, well, the ants that live 
> outside my window didn't.    
> 
> it's common knowledge that ants don't like carbonation, by the way.   they 
> WAIT (patient little guys) until it goes flat.    
> 
> so, returning to my room after a short hiatus from Minarets, i find that ALL 
> THE LITTLE ANTS ARE MARCHING RIGHT TO THE SPRITE CAN NEXT TO THE WINDOW.    
> normally, i would freak out (i HATE insects)-- but, suddenly, Dave started 
> singing in my head, and i didn't mind cleaning up the mess.    they were 
> rather cute, really.    
> 
> they were all doing it the same way, in this little line to and fro the can.  
>  i watched them for a while, but eventually it was Raid time.    
> 
> now, my room smells like Raid, but at least i'm alone... i think.    no, i'm 
> not a slob.    i just like Sprite.    and so do my little friends.    

Here here. Let's hear it for all the little Hymenoptera out there drinking
soda around the world!

Have you hugged an ant today?

Matt


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:50 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Ironies and hugs and such...

While trying to fall asleep last nite I thought of something funny and 
ironic..

We first lost our shit when Dave was making a video, going "oh my god, 
its gonna be a new buzz clip, I hope it doesn't get overplayed!"

Now, half of us still can't seem to catch it, and it only comes on at 
1:45 am on eMpTyV and on Moon Unit's show on VH-1. 

heheheh i thought it waskinda funny.....

Anyone wanna give me a PowerMac .... maybe with CD ROM...pleeze....

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Posted By: HvyHead@aol.com
Time/Date: 12:52 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: BAD TRADER

I just read a post and would like to further warn people not to trade with
jcdavis@wam.umd.edu. I have been waiting for my tapes for a month now, and
still haven't even gotten a response from him yet, except a few excuses. I
have done many trades, and have never had a problem like this before. I think
people like this give a bad name to the net and the whole purpose of having
one. If you can't trust people, what is the point of being part of it. I
don't want to start another war here, because I know that most people are
honest here on this net, but what can you do about those who aren't? Isn't
there something that can be done? Like I said, I have never had this problem
before, so nobody take this personally. And not for a moment am I saying that
this problem represents the net as a whole, cause it doesn't. At the risk
that he may still have all intentions of sending them out, I heavily
apologize to him and all, but when a trade is being made, it is kind of nice
to update the person who is expecting your tapes, if you know what I mean. A
little common courtesy goes a long way. Sorry for wasting anybody's time, but
I felt it necessary to vent some frustration and make it available for all to
hear, after all, I listen to everybody elses. Well until the world becomes a
place where eveyone can be trusted, which I hope will some day be true, BUYER
BEWARE!

                                  Heavy Head


Posted By: messierb@ucsub.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 2:44 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: help needed!

I am in need of help!  First off I was wondering what the address for the 
God Street Wine net was.  Did anyone catch their NYE show?  I heard it 
rocked quite hard.

Secondly, all this WWW stuff and http has gotten me quite confused!  If 
some kind soul out there would help me get started on this (trust me I am 
a quick learner) I would be most Grateful!

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 3:14 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Trading please

Happpy New Year to all.
        As are many, I am back on the net after the break.  I am also not to
happy to see all the bickering that's been going on, but hey, if we all thought
the same, life would be boring, eh?  ANywyas, I am interested in trading for
some tapes of fall shows, if anybody has them.  The shows I'm interested in
are:
10/28/94 Vic Theater, Chicago, IL
11/14/94 Vogue Theater, Indianapolis, IN
 
If anyone has these shows, I have lots of DMB,WSP,Rusted Root, Samples, and
Phish to trade for my 1st 2 shows.  Thanks a lot,
 
Steve
sakunz@miavx1.muohio.edu


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Time/Date: 3:24 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Welcome to finewine (fwd)

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Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 3:27 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: quick WWW instuctions

ok simple www stuff...
You will see lots of things that look like the phrase in my sig
http://liberty whatever....
if your running on a UNIX or a VAX type
lynx and the phrase 
lynx is the keyword to look for the stuff
the http:// stuff is like an address telling the computer where to find 
certain documents

If you can find a nicer computer with MOSAIC, which is a graphics 
included WWW browser, look in the menus for the open URL command
then enter the http stuff

a U(niversal) R(esource) L(ocater) is the http stuff
it also works with ftp ie
ftp://netspace.org/pub/DMB/graphics/live-photos

to get right to the live graphics

hope this helps.....

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Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 4:06 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: The Simpsons& a lost address

First- the DMB thing.  Some guy sent sweetbriar bootleg,& I 
lost your address.  please EMail me with it.
Second_ I heard that the simpsons might be taken off th air. 
is it true that such an awesome show could be cancled.  I
say that we all unite and potition for it to be kept on.
Any way thanks for your time
Clarke Browne
"Nacho Nacho Man, I want to be a nacho man" Homer J. Simpson


Posted By: BHAGGER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 4:11 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: minarets size

On Sat, 7 Jan 1995 21:45:19 -0500 Catherine E. Hobbs said:
>how many people are subscribers to this list?
>do we know? can we find out?
>how many people receive all the random babble i post?
>this age survey stuff got me curious...
>catherine

I was curious too but for a different reason.  I'm sure Keith has told you all
about our inability to find anyone at the Atlanta show. Well that got my brain
working.  I plan to find out how much it would cost to make buttons (pins) for
the people on the minarets as sort of an insignia and symbol to others at
concerts.  I heard from Keith that someone was going to try to make t-shirts--
this is not meant to upstage that effort.  Buttons seem the most logical since
they should be cheap to make, easy to mail and you can wear them with anything
night after night (we went to B'ham the next night).  I was upset that I has no
way to distinguish those on the minarets and those who are not, I was actually
ready to yell aloud in the lobby for minarets to step forward and make
themselves known.  Anyway I'll post more about this when I find out the cost an
d when everyone has returned from the holidays.
                                               Farewell and remember that a
                                                   noose is not the answer!!!
                                                         Bridget


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 4:18 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Sorry if I am confusing people

I have made some recent posts answering questions about getting on
the widespread panic and god street wine mailing lists along with some 
WWW stuff
DO NOT WORRY.....you guys are not all on spreadnet or finewine now..
I just happened to have been on both at one point and had the info..
i figure alot of you might be interested in these mailing lists...
I hope i didn't throw to many of you for a loop..

Sorry ....


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Posted By: MBRoth@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:46 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: trades

  -Anyone interested in some trades? one year ago I instanly fell in love
with Daves unique style>I got as many tapes as I could until I saw that the
same songs appeared very often.  well, I haven't lost interest. Reading a
couple set lists, it appears as though Dave has a couple new songs. I guess I
am a little out of touch seeing that most of my DMB tapes are 93's.  I would
love to get some new tunes, or any crisp '94 sbds.  I have some good Phish
tapes and a couple great DMB.   thanks >ZAC


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 4:57 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: I'm sitting in a...well nevermind

I had some time to blow and my options included programming, programming,
and smoking...so, i'll smoke (and eat jelly beans, gourmet, of course) and
type till I've had, at least, one of each of the flavors of my jelly beans.
But, you know, I may as well have two of each flavor, just so the other isn't
alone in the deep recesses of my stomach.

I have this friend, I guess you'd call him a friend (of course you would, 
I'd hate to think that I have any REAL NME's) who is kinda new to the whole
dave matthews scene.  You know what's funny
about my friend...of course you don't...why'd I ask...to answer it myself, of
course.

What's funny about him is that he's a huge trend expert.  I've never seen a
trendier dude in all my life.  All of a sudden he thrust himself into the 
whole DAMABA area and went at it full force.  But, you know what, he started
out as just another groupie-type, a grown-up version of the little ones that
everyone was complaining about earlier...but now, he actually stepped out of
the whole fad thing and into a whole new level of fandome...I'm really
impressed when someone like him develops a new attitude toward bands like
dave...taking it from the level of 'what does everyone around me like' to
the level of 'what do I want to like' then to 'how can I appreciate this more'

I just thought this was cool, and I figgered (I know how to spell it) I'd 
share it with everyone.  I need more jelly beans, please, send me some, they
don't even have to be gourmet...but it'd be nice, and I'd probably return the
favor with big smiles, and maybe a hug for whoever needs one.

Always chew your jelly beans before you swallow them,

Shug


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 5:00 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: newbie replysosorryhey

sorry kevin, but seeing as how i am a virgin user of this fucking machine i 
have deleted your address, your identity, sorry but i will still 
respond--the boulder shows sound great, richmond too, and i do have boots 
of dmb--i could just send you best one if you like- cause dates escape my 
mind right now--but maybe you could pass on vital info like address--or 
maybe this info is availible to me but i am blind to it...hmmm  so yeah and 
by the way-halloween is an esoteric song, fantastic, beautiful rare/raging 
all these things-but not all possess the flamethrower spirit, passion, 
bitter bile, and temperment to understand the rabid wanderings, mutterings, 
and throaty growls from d so just practice understanding...the music wells 
up inside few of us, pools at unique levels, overflows and cascades...so if 
people don't like certain holidays, sobeit...i know some are turned off by 
almost, keyword, almost indecipherable lyrics but hey that just makes 
listening all the more interesting....so kev, talk to me again--i am a true 
newbie, fuckup...and to the rest of the scribers, hey from the vapid 
wasteland of rochester...someone should tell dave to visit here and convert 
restless souls....hmmm ok later...eric


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 5:04 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: i don't know. i just don't know.

you know what's missing from the net?  music.  we're all sitting around
here (openly) discussing a band, but for the lucky number of us who
have no computers of our own, we have to sit in a computer lab at our
respective universities, colleges, and places of employment and listen
to the clicking of our and others keyboards.

just a minor gripe.

happy new year everyone.  hope at the end of it we can all say happy
old year.  355 days to go until next time.  i didn't make it to any
dave shows over break, but it's probably just as well.  i tend to hurt
muchly these days.  but i thought i'd share a short summary of what i
did do.  not that it matters.  just a peaceful sojourn from the icky
poopy moods that have been pervading our lives lately.

anyway, i had mentioned before that there was the possibility that 
shannon worrell was going to play in c-ville on nye.  as many of you
know by now, she was at dave on nye, so the possibility was nothing
more than a wasted dream.  

BUT, that's not to say that i didn't have a killer nye.  (how do you
pronounce "nye"?)  well, as i mentioned before, i had my sinuses worked
on by the skilled hands of the uva ent department, so they were kind
enough to place in my hands a phat perskiption of percocet, which in
layman's terms is an artificial opiate.  ie: mild hallucinogen. 

well, i saved my last two for nye, which i spent with jeff peters of 
this here net, and a common freind of ours, and just as i walked into
this quaint little bookstore they kicked in.  let me just say it was the
coolest bookstore experience of my life.  just ask jeff.  i wondered around
for an hour staring into the blue sky (we won't worry about the fact that i
was inside, as well as it being night) and making random sound effects
and picking up and perusing books that have no interest of me (iglek zormi's
"how to make your own panflute) and more or less (or more, or more and more)
really enjoying myself.

then (and this is the part that may interest the people around here who
don't know me), we sat down, in of all places, the c-ville courthouse
and saw terri allard.  she's good.  she's really good.  i don't know much
about her, just that she's a solid member of the c-ville underground, and
that she has a beautiful voice (even more beautiful in the surrounding
psychedelic world of percocet), and that she has alot to say.  she was
also joined by a c-ville fiddler, and the two of them together sounded
incredible.  anyone else down there at uva who knows about her and can
clue us all into more, i'd be much obliged.  

after that, i showed my steel plates to jeff, and then we stood on a bench,
watched fireworks, and while i was stoned out of my mind, jeff and our
freind acted stoned out of their minds, and overall, it was just a really
hepcat kindof experience.

our grand finale was chicken and pancakes with iced tea at the italian
villa.  


tomorrow i'll share with you jeff's first experience with waffleing around
at a waffle house.


like i said, though, not that any of this matters.  see ya'll in february...
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
"PENIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!"-jeff peters\    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 5:44 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Gibb Droll

just got a new Some new C.D.'s on the tip of my brother.
The grapes from athens are awesome.  Sound very dead
influenced, with some WSP in there also.  Must buy if you
have not already.  second, The Gibb Droll band From
Charlottesville, V.A., the home town of Another great band
we all know and love.  Very Blues influenced.  He is an
incredible guitarist.  Just informing you.  Sorry for the
lack of DMB material, but I think we'll live.
Clarke


Posted By: 72672.1776@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 6:00 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: bye bye for now

i'm outta here!    away from this rain, the flooding, the parents, the west 
coast and ALL THAT!    just wanted to say, 

please don't reply to this address, 

cause my dad will be REAL confused if he checks his mail and finds clare 
spooning

and Boofy smoking

and keith rambling

and toole... tooling

and everyone else screaming from the Minarets 

if you want to talk about the little ants marching, please send to the address
in my .sig, 'k?

laters, y'all!

-anyoneotherthanme

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
read.   write.    bike.    eat.    play disc.    read.    sleep?
listen to dave.    read.    eat?    surf the Net.    munch.
read.    listen to dave.    nap.    strum... strum.    eat.
read.   read.   listen to dave.   hear dave.    write.   read.

repeat until here you can rest safely...
----------------------------------------------------------------
Dominic Sagolla '96    dsagoll1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore College     dominic@raptor.swarthmore.edu
Swarthmore, PA 19081   sagolla@cs.swarthmore.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Posted By: AFROST@smith.smith.edu
Time/Date: 6:25 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: subscribe

just a fellow vermonter relocated out to washington state wanting some good
music. thanks much for your fine work. amy

subscribe afrost@smith.smith.edu


Posted By: BHAGGER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 6:28 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: New DMB fans

On Tue, 10 Jan 1995 12:36:47 -0500 Matthew Thompson said:
>> Now, To the old DMB fans...
>> I can't decide how I feel about the radio play.  The video on MTV is pushing
>> it way far and I don't know how much more I can handle. My problem is that I
>> know this is way selfish because the band has a right to be successful, but
>> when people go around bad-mouthing the first two albums and saying that the
>> live version of Ants Marching is not as good as the one on UTTAD I get very
>> upset.  What do ya think?
>> Have a nice day!
>> ROn
>
>My question is, why does it *really* matter if it is or isn't?
>We all pay Dave respect by listening to his music, and I guess
>someone might owe us something, somehow, but *they're* the
>musicians, not us. They can do and write anything they want, which
>means that we don't own them. Sure we can stop paying them any
>attention if we don't like what they're doing, but they're the
>ones creating, not us.
>
>So I guess it kind of bothers me when people say they like the older
>version of Ants better just as it bothers me when people say they
>like the newer version better. We don't create, so who are we to
>judge? And what if the band really hates the dueling banjos part of Ants

So who are we to judge??? My friend we are the people who allow the band to
do what they love for a living-- as a sole means of income.  We are the
audience that allows their performances to be more than a mere rehearsal.
Even Carter realizes the impact the fans have and is very courteous and humble
when he thanks them. Respect is a two way street my friend.  Please allow me to
elaboraate for a moment -- Though i have never been a particular fan of U2
There was one interview with Bono regarding Zoo TV in which he said something
to the effect of -- well if the fans don't like it screw them. I was mordified
that anyone would bite the hand that feeds them in such a rude and tactless
manner. It was at that point that any respect I may have ever developed for
that band or its music flew out the window.  It went beyond the point of
judging the music at all-- that would be a sad state for DMB.

>and they never want to do it again? What do we do then? Do we tell
>them to stop changing and evolving however they see fit? Maybe the
>reason a lot of newbies like the new version of Ants better is
>because it *is* better, and vets like the old version better 'cause
>they're used to it. Hmm... Interesting way to think about it.
>
   One last point newbies do have the right to enjoy what ever they want and I
have no intention of taking that away from them for I myself can be considered
a newbie who has been through an accelerated program since I live with Keith.
Now for my point -- I. in my newbie state, heard the UTTAD version first and
love to sing along and beebop to it. Then when the whole which is better thread
was going on Keith had me sit and listen to the earlier version. Carter hit the
drum about 17 million times and thruogh the first half or so of the song I felt
like screaming  -- Get on with it -- it was then that I actually listened,not
just heard the words. My point, which I promised so long ago, is that veterans
to DMB have listened and it is obvious to them that the newbies have not. It is
 easy to resent that (and to me perfectly understandable) since this music is
important to them. It is almost as if someone who dogs the earlier version with
little thought to their words is being blasphemous, and that can be hurtful.



>In any case, I say, let them do what they think is right and leave
>people who like the new version of Ants alone.
>
>Bye for now,
>Matt

      Disclaimer -- this post is not meant to be a flame nor is it intended to
rehash the which is better thread or the newbie (aka: age) thread.
Sorry about the length but i refuse to be accused of taking anything out
context.

                                               See ya
                                                Bridget


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 6:53 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: What's Tim Reynolds Up To?

Does anyone have any information about any current Tim Reynolds' projects?

jonathan
1-800-HELP MYSELF


Posted By: matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 7:44 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: New DMB fans

> 
> So who are we to judge??? My friend we are the people who allow the band to
> do what they love for a living-- as a sole means of income.  We are the
> audience that allows their performances to be more than a mere rehearsal.
> Even Carter realizes the impact the fans have and is very courteous and humble
>when he thanks them. Respect is a two way street my friend.  Please allow me to
> elaboraate for a moment -- Though i have never been a particular fan of U2
> There was one interview with Bono regarding Zoo TV in which he said something
> to the effect of -- well if the fans don't like it screw them. I was mordified
> that anyone would bite the hand that feeds them in such a rude and tactless
> manner. It was at that point that any respect I may have ever developed for
> that band or its music flew out the window.  It went beyond the point of
> judging the music at all-- that would be a sad state for DMB.

I guess we can judge all we want, but the creative act exists without our 
money. Maybe *they* don't exist without our money, but the creative act 
stands alone. I guess what we all seem to forget is that a band that *we like*
made a new version of Ants Marching that a lot of newbies like. And if they 
want to say that they like the new version better than the live version, isn't
that a credit to DMB for producing a variation that reaches other people? 
Conversely, if we put down a group of people who like something we don't like
(i.e. newbies who like Ants on UTTAD), shouldn't we also put down the band that 
produced it. It's only fair. I'm just saying that we can't do one without the 
other. But I don't think any of us are planning on putting down DMB's efforts 
quite yet.

>    One last point newbies do have the right to enjoy what ever they want and I
> have no intention of taking that away from them for I myself can be considered
> a newbie who has been through an accelerated program since I live with Keith.
> Now for my point -- I. in my newbie state, heard the UTTAD version first and
>love to sing along and beebop to it. Then when the whole which is better thread
>was going on Keith had me sit and listen to the earlier version. Carter hit the
>drum about 17 million times and thruogh the first half or so of the song I felt
> like screaming  -- Get on with it -- it was then that I actually listened,not
> just heard the words. My point, which I promised so long ago, is that veterans
>to DMB have listened and it is obvious to them that the newbies have not. It is
>  easy to resent that (and to me perfectly understandable) since this music is
>important to them. It is almost as if someone who dogs the earlier version with
> little thought to their words is being blasphemous, and that can be hurtful.

I'm sure "veterans" know a lot more about the music than newbies, but that
doesn't mean that they own the music. And shouldn't our response to a rash
newbie who acts like s(he) knows it all be "well, have you heard any of the
old stuff; it's pretty good, too". We should try to bring them into the fold,
so to speak, and if the don't want to come in, let 'em go, and don't get so
mad about their opinions. It's their own loss, not ours.

I guess my whole point with this was: Let newbies alone. No point in getting
mad and mean about what they say. 

Peace all, and good night,
Matt


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 8:03 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: New DMB fans

>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 19:49:13 -0500
>Reply-To: matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU
>From: Matthew Thompson <matt@arbutus.Stanford.EDU>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
>Subject: Re: New DMB fans
>
>
>> 
>> So who are we to judge??? My friend we are the people who allow the band to
>> do what they love for a living-- as a sole means of income.  We are the
>> audience that allows their performances to be more than a mere rehearsal.
>> Even Carter realizes the impact the fans have and is very courteous and 
humble
>>when he thanks them. Respect is a two way street my friend.  Please allow me 
to
>> elaboraate for a moment -- Though i have never been a particular fan of U2
>> There was one interview with Bono regarding Zoo TV in which he said something
>> to the effect of -- well if the fans don't like it screw them. I was 
mordified
>> that anyone would bite the hand that feeds them in such a rude and tactless
>> manner. It was at that point that any respect I may have ever developed for
>> that band or its music flew out the window.  It went beyond the point of
>> judging the music at all-- that would be a sad state for DMB.
>
>I guess we can judge all we want, but the creative act exists without our 
>money. Maybe *they* don't exist without our money, but the creative act 
>stands alone. I guess what we all seem to forget is that a band that *we like*
>made a new version of Ants Marching that a lot of newbies like. And if they 
>want to say that they like the new version better than the live version, isn't
>that a credit to DMB for producing a variation that reaches other people? 
>Conversely, if we put down a group of people who like something we don't like
>(i.e. newbies who like Ants on UTTAD), shouldn't we also put down the band that 
>produced it. It's only fair. I'm just saying that we can't do one without the 
>other. But I don't think any of us are planning on putting down DMB's efforts 
>quite yet.
>
>>    One last point newbies do have the right to enjoy what ever they want and 
I
>> have no intention of taking that away from them for I myself can be 
considered
>> a newbie who has been through an accelerated program since I live with Keith.
>> Now for my point -- I. in my newbie state, heard the UTTAD version first and
>>love to sing along and beebop to it. Then when the whole which is better 
thread
>>was going on Keith had me sit and listen to the earlier version. Carter hit 
the
>>drum about 17 million times and thruogh the first half or so of the song I 
felt
>> like screaming  -- Get on with it -- it was then that I actually listened,not
>> just heard the words. My point, which I promised so long ago, is that 
veterans
>>to DMB have listened and it is obvious to them that the newbies have not. It 
is
>>  easy to resent that (and to me perfectly understandable) since this music is
>>important to them. It is almost as if someone who dogs the earlier version 
with
>> little thought to their words is being blasphemous, and that can be hurtful.
>
>I'm sure "veterans" know a lot more about the music than newbies, but that
>doesn't mean that they own the music. And shouldn't our response to a rash
>newbie who acts like s(he) knows it all be "well, have you heard any of the
>old stuff; it's pretty good, too". We should try to bring them into the fold,
>so to speak, and if the don't want to come in, let 'em go, and don't get so
>mad about their opinions. It's their own loss, not ours.
>
>I guess my whole point with this was: Let newbies alone. No point in getting
>mad and mean about what they say. 
>
>Peace all, and good night,
>Matt
hello, i guess you could categorize me as a newbie although personally that term 
has been flung about this small room in a derogatory manner, sweatyshirtesque so 
whatever, i think most versions of most dmb songs kick so who cares?  into the 
fold....veterans.....ants marching as a song ain't on my top ten anyway...oh 
well pettiness, petticoats, petunias, i may be new on net but....hey oh well, 
appreciate music, glad that d is around, praise all you can. (sd)  eric


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 8:34 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: Gibb Droll

> have not already.  second, The Gibb Droll band From
> Charlottesville, V.A.,

actually gibb is from my home town of va bch.

gray


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 8:54 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: stop the insanity!!!!!!!!

who likes the new susan powter better than the old one?





?




you know, i'm just as eager as the next guy, girl, dog, hippopatumaus,
hippie, yuppie, guppie, groupie to be rich and famous one day.  but i
have to wonder, is it worth it?  along come the people who suddenly
know your name and then they sit around and ponder your name, and start
talking about what makes your name so much cooler than the rest of
the names in the world (even if they happen to be the same name).  then
come along the people who know you to the most intimate detail, and you
start dealing with things like people sitting around complaining about
what your doing.  accusing you of letting them down.  accusing their
freinds of fostering this supreme let down.  i would think that you
would just get this screw it mentality at this point and say things like
"if the fans don't like it, screw 'em."  then if your lucky, you either
get shot, or you kill yourself, or both.


fame and fortune.  there's a catch 22.  catches you.  then kills you.

stop griping!!!!!!! for chris's sake.  i HATE the uttad ants.  i HATE
the r2t satellite.  i also HATE true reflections and granny.  i also
think boyd's grin is cheezy.  but that's ME.  that's not YOU.  and
if it's such a pressing matter in your life that you need to take offense
at my opinions, or anyone's opinions, i suggest you take a chill pill.  

anyone who bases their deepest mores and convictions on a music group
is a dolt.  yes, that is a flame, yes you may flame me back for it.
if you feel the need to publicly flame me on the net, make sure you do
a good job of making an ass of me, because we all hate frivolous flames.
you can find some inspiration (as i said, i song i hate) in whatever 
corner of dave's (or boyd's(or carter's, or leroi's, or stefan's) mind 
you see fit.  that's the beauty in it all.  it's your interpretations 
that all matter, and in all honesty, it's your interpretations that 
humble dave the most.  trust me, when you say negative things about 
dave, he takes it to heart.  but i'm sure that if you start arguing 
about what's good and what's not, and when you start telling people 
that they suck for it, he's going to laugh at you.  as are alot of 
other people.  this is a behavior known in the world of common sense 
as NARROW-MINDEDNESS.  not that i've never fell victim to such a dreaded 
acute (sometimes chronic) affliction, mind you.  but let's see the 
smooth vibes hold out here in the land of tall spires.  or something
like that.

dave is cool.  that's all we need worry about.

did i say worry?  that's the last word i meant to use.

dave is cool.      (.)
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
    and i quote many a bumber     \             rick thompson
    sticker:  "mean people suck"   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: 75714.1363@compuserve.com
Time/Date: 8:59 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: need a tape fix

    hi. i'm relatively new to this great dmbthing(first four wonderful shows
this year), and i've listened to 2things, uttad, &recently until i'm now forced
to ration myself to avoid having the music lose any of it's luster.   .........I
NEED HELP......    although bereft of dave tapes to trade, i have >100 very
high-quality dead tapes to trade(low-gen.,no boombox dubs, all
nakamichi,digital, beta hi-fi), including a tape from the fox theatre, atl.
11/30/80 that is truly special and rare. speaking of the fox, i would especially
love to find a tape of dmb at fox, 12/27. i saw the show , and thought it
stunning....
   anyway, any kind soul who would like to help me (us) get started, drop me a
line and i'll zip you a list and recommendations.                   thanks,
                                                                     jack straw


                            reply to thomas j. haughton,
75714.1363@compuserve.com


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 9:09 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: stop the insanity!!!!!!!!

>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 21:02:27 -0500
>Reply-To: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
>From: "your head is a shovel-- use it." <STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
>Subject: stop the insanity!!!!!!!!
>
>who likes the new susan powter better than the old one?
>
>
>
>
>
>?
>
>
>
>
>you know, i'm just as eager as the next guy, girl, dog, hippopatumaus,
>hippie, yuppie, guppie, groupie to be rich and famous one day.  but i
>have to wonder, is it worth it?  along come the people who suddenly
>know your name and then they sit around and ponder your name, and start
>talking about what makes your name so much cooler than the rest of
>the names in the world (even if they happen to be the same name).  then
>come along the people who know you to the most intimate detail, and you
>start dealing with things like people sitting around complaining about
>what your doing.  accusing you of letting them down.  accusing their
>freinds of fostering this supreme let down.  i would think that you
>would just get this screw it mentality at this point and say things like
>"if the fans don't like it, screw 'em."  then if your lucky, you either
>get shot, or you kill yourself, or both.
>
>
>fame and fortune.  there's a catch 22.  catches you.  then kills you.
>
>stop griping!!!!!!! for chris's sake.  i HATE the uttad ants.  i HATE
>the r2t satellite.  i also HATE true reflections and granny.  i also
>think boyd's grin is cheezy.  but that's ME.  that's not YOU.  and
>if it's such a pressing matter in your life that you need to take offense
>at my opinions, or anyone's opinions, i suggest you take a chill pill.  
>
>anyone who bases their deepest mores and convictions on a music group
>is a dolt.  yes, that is a flame, yes you may flame me back for it.
>if you feel the need to publicly flame me on the net, make sure you do
>a good job of making an ass of me, because we all hate frivolous flames.
>you can find some inspiration (as i said, i song i hate) in whatever 
>corner of dave's (or boyd's(or carter's, or leroi's, or stefan's) mind 
>you see fit.  that's the beauty in it all.  it's your interpretations 
>that all matter, and in all honesty, it's your interpretations that 
>humble dave the most.  trust me, when you say negative things about 
>dave, he takes it to heart.  but i'm sure that if you start arguing 
>about what's good and what's not, and when you start telling people 
>that they suck for it, he's going to laugh at you.  as are alot of 
>other people.  this is a behavior known in the world of common sense 
>as NARROW-MINDEDNESS.  not that i've never fell victim to such a dreaded 
>acute (sometimes chronic) affliction, mind you.  but let's see the 
>smooth vibes hold out here in the land of tall spires.  or something
>like that.
>
>dave is cool.  that's all we need worry about.
>
>did i say worry?  that's the last word i meant to use.
>
>dave is cool.      (.)
>____________________________________
>"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
>  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
>        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
>__________________________________     \_________________________________
>    and i quote many a bumber     \             rick thompson
>    sticker:  "mean people suck"   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
>                                    \____________________________________
yes thank you....they all do it the same don't they....complain complain, 
opinions, now there's a thought....hmmmm yes rick has it right...coolitcats
it's music-it's vibrations attuned to your auditory canal...the wind spirals in 
empty places....smoke n enjoy        eric


Posted By: CABoofy@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:19 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Not much really.....

Just seeing if i can get this friggin aol thing to work right
I cant believe I have to pay for this.....
hehehe


Posted By: wrongway@wwa.com
Time/Date: 9:22 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Will trade for your Tangerine show...

	Will trade anything I got (100+ hours phish, some great DMB, BT, 
Dead, etc.) for a HQ DMB show with a cover of "Tangerine".  I know 
they've done it, I gotta hear it.  Thanks...

Peace,
Dan

wrongway@gagme.wwa.com


Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 10:58 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: # of people on this net

Hey everybody-
	To most this will be useless info, but I just found out there are 
712 people on this mailing list - I know the question had arisen not so 
long ago.  Take care-

			-Steve(not feeling creative at the moment)


Posted By: a015880t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
Time/Date: 11:20 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Newbie looking to start collection

If anyone is interested in helping out a newbie to start his collection 
with some good quality boots please e-mail me.  Thanks.

jon



Jonathan Nelson
a015880t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 11:47 PM Tuesday, January 10, 1995
Subject: Re: video camera setup @ NYE

They did not shoot a videoat the NYE show.  The camera was there
for a simulcast.  The dave show was being shown downstairs (where
the opening band played) as it was going on upstairs.  They WERE
and I mean WERE going to record it, but some dickhead stole the
VCR before the show.  As one who set up the show on NYE, and who
did security for Jeff at the soundboard I know these things.
Believe me.  There was and is no video from NYE.


Wade


Posted By: jason.doak@cbn.org
Time/Date: 2:59 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Re: Gibb Droll

>just got a new Some new C.D.'s on the tip of my brother. 
>The grapes from athens are awesome.  Sound very dead 
>influenced, with some WSP in there also.  Must buy if you 
>have not already.  second, The Gibb Droll band From 
>Charlottesville, V.A., the home town of Another great band 
>we all know and love.  Very Blues influenced.  He is an 
>incredible guitarist.  Just informing you.  Sorry for the 
>lack of DMB material, but I think we'll live.
>Clarke 
     
     Just a minor correction, The Gibb Droll Band is from Virginia Beach, 
     VA I was talking with Gibb a couple of weeks ago and he is with DMB 
     management now.
     
     
     Jason


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 3:00 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: REM Monster Lyrics

I got my hands on the lyrics to Monster if anyone wants 'em, e mail me


Posted By: jason.doak@cbn.org
Time/Date: 3:02 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Re: Gibb Droll

>just got a new Some new C.D.'s on the tip of my brother. 
>The grapes from athens are awesome.  Sound very dead 
>influenced, with some WSP in there also.  Must buy if you 
>have not already.  second, The Gibb Droll band From 
>Charlottesville, V.A., the home town of Another great band 
>we all know and love.  Very Blues influenced.  He is an 
>incredible guitarist.  Just informing you.  Sorry for the 
>lack of DMB material, but I think we'll live.
>Clarke 
     
     Just a minor correction, The Gibb Droll Band is from Virginia Beach, 
     VA I was talking with Gibb a couple of weeks ago and he is with DMB 
     management now.
     
     
     Jason


Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 3:05 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: confusion about tix

Marianne is not happy.  No...very, very sad...

Philadelphia is sold out.  Ticketbastard was useless, couldn't tell me how
big the venue is, or when they sold out...

And interestingly enough, they have no listing for the Connecticut shows or
the University Park shows whose tickets I was ready to gobble with
demon-like voracity.  I would appreciate any information about getting
tickets to any of these locations.  Perhaps college venues don't sell
through ticketmaster?  I could use Numbers to call etc.

And here is the information I have for the New York City shows:
NY ticketmaster:  212-377-7171.
Date of Sale: Jan 19, Thursday.
No limit on # of Tix.

 I was told by "Tony" at Ticketmaster that tickets were not going to be
sold at Roseland or Irving Plaza.  Irving says they have no information til
next week, but they are 99% sure that they will be selling (thereby
avoiding unnecesary surcharges.)  I'll keep ya posted...
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Posted By: TWDUNCAN@ucs.indiana.edu
Time/Date: 3:21 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject:

1.  I was wondering if anyone had the guitar tab. for "Get in Line", thanx!

2.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the title Under the Table and Dreaming
    come from the song "Ants Marching".

3.  It's only a matter of time before dmb performs on the Late Show with 
    Letterman!

				Good Night, 
                                  Dunc.


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 3:27 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: and growing, and growing...

>Hey everybody-
>	To most this will be useless info, but I just found out there are 
>712 people on this mailing list - I know the question had arisen not so 
>long ago.  Take care-
>
>			-Steve(not feeling creative at the moment)

also, during the fall i received about 10 requests for the lyrics and
faq a week.

this isn't a true indication of how fast the net is growing, because
people tend to lose these files all the time and ask for them again,
but i'd say about 80% of 'em are new netters.

also, i finally remembered to bring a copy of r2t with me to the lab,
so the lyrics file will reflect that jane is indeed on that cd (something
it doesn't do now.  duh!)


ps-dan: i'm still working on getting alex to send faq requests to you.
   i don't have a clue why he hasn't done it yet.

ps-chardy:  write me.
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:27 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: PLEASE TAPE TR3 SHOWS!!!

I have two earlier shows (90 and 91, i think, and a piece from
89). I'd love to have ANY other TR3, but especially these four
shows that were just announced...

to recall, that's ziggys tonight, lexington thursday at the raven
and crow, and miller's (in charlottesville) on the 20th and 21st.

I have 300+ hrs phish, 120+ hrs gdead, 20 or so hours DMB, 130+
hrs misc, and 3 hrs TR3 to trade, and will buy the masters from
you if you hate the show; tapes and tip for time.

Danke.  See you on the 20th...

     Ellis "of Lemuria" Godard   jeg5s@virginia.edu
       P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA, 22903
  Graduate Program in Sociology, University of Virginia
FAQ File Administrator for rec.music.phish & phish-digest
     Keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train...


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 3:43 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: the song that jane likes

you know, it took over a year for someone to bring to my attention that
i forgot to put the song that jane likes in the lyrics file.  why didn't
anyone tell me sooner???????

anyway, i just typed it in, and i thought i'd send it to the net for
those of you that want to keep all of dave's lyrics in cyberspace, and
those of you who don't have r2t.

also, i have started an alternative versions lyrics file, including
halloween.  halloween has been posted before, so i'll hold out on reposting
it and the file until it's more of a file.  if you want to help, feel
free to transcribe any versions of any songs that you feel is so substantially
different than it is now that it deserves note.  i'm trying to limit myself
on say goodbyes and drive in, drive outs, but feel free to do whatever you
want for halloween.  i may devote a whole file to the song if we get enough
substantially different versions.

anyway, here's jane's song:

The Song That Jane Likes

and in plays to write the wire in
i'll come back again 
taorching time talking rhymes in
i'll come back again

would you like to play
with the thought of a friend
in a distant passing stage
while you lie around
with hands up and down
so resigned you will fall down

while you around here play
wild on the warm and far away
while you around here play
the days keep scrbbling themselves
in tidy lines

would like to play
with a fool holding hands
with a one-eyed jack of spades
while on the deck they sing
all of the captain's cards are kings 
still he and the queen are lost at sea
i hope it isn't you and me

and i'll be back 'round again
yes i'll walk in time with you old freind
and we'll find that place
that we had danced so long ago

and in plays to write the wire in
i'll come back again
torching time talking rhymes in
i'll come back again
with this resigned
the letter i sign


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
Time/Date: 3:47 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: hello

hi

I feel like trading again. But first, I know I owe a few people tapes...
I'm trying to sort through LOTS of email to see to whom I owe what. 

Please email me if I owe you tapes. Some of y'all had finals then a break.
I work in a bookstore and unfortunately, the holiday retail season ate most
of my brain.

thanks,
JOE   :P

(However: I can recommend quality reading with ease.)
 
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< Joe & Laura ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <><


Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 4:38 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Fwd: confusion about tix

TYPO TYPO TYPO Oops...revised ticketmaster number below:
And here is the information I have for the New York City shows:
NY ticketmaster:  212-307-7171.
                                       ^^^^^  (not 377)
Date of Sale: Jan 19, Thursday.
No limit on # of Tix.

 
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Posted By: acox@s850.mwc.edu
Time/Date: 4:52 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: tim and dave, trades, and cupid

I've got several questions about past show dates...

First, I've got a Dave and Tim Reynolds show dated 4/22/93, but I don't 
think that's the correct date - I have never seen it mentioned, and this 
copy isn't labelled too well. It has no location given and no setlist. 
I believe that the first song is Satellite, after which I think Dave says 
that it is the second time the two have played together...has an 
INCREDIBLE Lie In Our Graves jam by Tim. Any help on the location, date 
and setlist (the copy itself is broken in several places, so I'm not sure 
if it is in order) would be great.

Also, my 9/27/94 copy of the album release (UTTAD) is broken up in 
several places, anyone with the correct setlist please mail me.

Still more, and probably most important to me...


Anyone with a copy of the last show Peter played with the band (Big 
League Chew?) please mail me... I WILL MAKE YOUR TRADE WORTHWHILE. 

Finally, Valentine's Day is approaching. 34 days, for those of you who 
will not see the band until then. Listen to old shows (from the Greisar 
Age), and just think how great some of these songs will sound backed by 
an entire symphony. For a time I thought Halloween would be great, and it 
may be, but Lover Lay Down...

We'll just have to patiently wait for all the songs...

Andrew
acox@s850.mwc.edu
acox@liberty.uc.wlu.edu


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 5:01 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject:

On Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:51:51 -0500 NAME said:
>3.  It's only a matter of time before dmb performs on the Late Show with
>    Letterman!

   certianly not....do you know something that we dont?

eeek!  dave and paul?
could be *interesting*

really really really really really scary,
but interesting nonetheless..............

keith


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 5:16 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: please keep in touch

My mom is making me sign off because of bad grades.  I knaow 
how juvenile.  please keep me up to date on the rare tree
and what ever might be important.  Talk to you when my
grades improve.  To the guy that gave me the Sweetbriar
show.  please send me your address via snail.
clarke Browne.

for tree or anything else. usxe28b    clarke Browne
if I do not reply                     1516 Myers Park Dr.
                                      Charlotte N.C., 28207


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 5:38 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: So much to say...not enuff time

HEY ALL.

Happy,happy to be back screaming and later on to be dancing
from the minarets and surely making faces.   * *
                                             \_/

i's do not own a computer of me own, so my communicating ability is
under the control of lab hours. and i usually am not awake by the
time this lab is closing. i am sorda vampiresque. too many things....

anyway, tomorrow i shall write some interesting tidbits on my
interpretation of DMB members on NYE, on the bootleg CD, on our
dwindling right of soundboard feeds and other things. but for now
this lab is closing.

TWO things that cannot wait till tomorrow:

 1) the day of Dave on Dave is coming ....sooner than you think...at
the NYE show i overheard DMB's manager saying that in the NEXT
COUPLE weeks DMB would be performing on David Leterman!!!!! o.k.
go,Dave,go...but....Dave Leterman is known to fuck with people and
lead them on...i can see DMB's manager,Coran, trying to sell Dave to Dave
to the point of Dave saying....o.k., o.k., we'll have your kids on
the show...then booking them a year later...who knows...but i'd
definately be alert...Rusted Root snuck onto Conan o' Brian almost
without warning...sooooo.....keeeeep eyes and ears OPEN.


 2) anyone living in Richmond,VA : 

 *** SCRATCHIN' JONES tour dates*** (by popular demand of one)

 1995 Shockoe Bottom world tour

1/12  Awful Arthurs    17th street(up street from Flood Zone)
                          21 and up

1/13  Rack n' Roll    E.Main Street (shockoe bottom across from 1708 club)
                          21 and up

1/14  Walnut Alley Tap  17th street (small place,good vibes)
                          21 and up

we are an acoustic power trio. there are two guitars and vocals and
i play an African drumset, learned how to play by banging on my chest 
at over a hundred Dave Matthews shows. Carter de' groovyiest.....
 
tahnx for yo' support. and remember to Scratch Yo' Jones. PEACE.

    
                        firey little creature of love,

                                   CHA * *
                                       \_/


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 5:58 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: cry freedom, random responses...

Hey ya'll... do you know of the movie 'cry freedom' about steve biko, the
south african freedom fighter guy that was killed?  obviously i'm butchering
the tragic story of his life, but it just dawned on me that dave's song
share's the same title... (boy i'm a quick one hmmm? how long did it take me
to figure that out??).  just thought maybe we could find someone on minarets
that has seen the damn film so they could clue us in.

clare emily rambles:

>so. then i had lovely drunk mail from nebuious. and it made me wonder why 

glad to be of service.  oh, and if you ever call me nebuious again i'll take
away your slippers AND MAYBE EVEN THE FISH. heh heh.

keith sez:

>ps---so ben.....did YOU read the whoole thing?

oops... no fair, when i signed up for this class they said there wouldn't be
no stinkin pop quiz...



ben

just another memo from the cellar,

     ************************************************************************
    *   "she said it's time i open my eyes           *   ben sterling      *
   *    don't be afraid to open your eyes           *  nebuious@aol.com   *
  *             maybe she's right."                *     new york, ny    * 
 *                 -tori amos                     *                     *
************************************************************************


Posted By: messierb@ucsub.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 6:07 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Need tapes!

I just got an obscene amount of blanks and am in need of tapes.  SO, all 
you kiddies out there with low gen SBD's please get in touch with me.  I 
have a small collection of nice DMB and a rather obsessive collection of 
Phish to trade with ya.  Please, help me use all these blanks and waste 
my money on postage!

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: nmayer@pen.k12.va.us
Time/Date: 6:28 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: LEtterman

Yep, Dave is in fact scheduled to be on letterman.  It was
supposed to be last night(Tuesday), but they had to delay it
till next week.  

By the way this info is from Dave's mother so it should be
rather reliable.

I'm only sixteen and have been jamming to DMb since 91 or so,
so don't discount every teenager that marches into a show as an
ignorant follower of the hip.


Nick D what's your address, write me!!

		Steve


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 6:58 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Tapes and tix

1. If I owe you a copy of 9-1-92, sorry. TJ- your tapes go out by the end 
of the week. There's another pair of blanks that I have on top of my 
stereo that will go out soon as well, but the name escapes me now. If 
anyone has some soundboards from any of the NYE run shows and feels like 
trading, let me know.

2. OK- I can't get in touch with Ben, who has the tix, and I don't know 
if he wants to buy mine or sell all three, so this is a PRELIMINARY OFFER 
ONLY.

If you want tix to see DMB with the Richmond symphony orchestra on 
Valentine's day, let me know. I was planning on making the trip, but many 
things have happened to convince me that it wouldn't be a great idea. 
Problem- the tix are not together. However, it sounds as if some 
minaretters will be getting together pre and post show for some fun and 
frolic, so it would still be a lot of fun- maybe you can bring an 
understanding date or something.
Price- $50.

Ha Ha. Don't flame.

Actual Price- face value ($29?) plus ticketmaster charges.

Again- the tix may or may not be for sale, but I don't know when I'll be 
in touch with Ben, and I don't want to have to eat these- I'm a poor man.
I'm pretty sure at least one ticket will be for sale.

Ben T., if you're out there, get in touch. I may be up at your fine 
institution tomorrow evening.
		
				-Adam


Posted By: GLowenhage@aol.com
Time/Date: 7:13 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Trading

A friend and I have compiled a pretty extensive stack of DMB bootlegs from
`91 through `94 and are willing to trade.  Want tapes of quality and
definitely more variety.  E-mail a show list if interested.


Posted By: axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Time/Date: 8:29 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Hotline

Here's what I scribbled down off the hotline. If this was posted while my 
mailbox was locked, sorry for the repeat. Anyway, I missed lotsa stuff, 
and I'm too cheap to call back. Here's what I got:

DMB with Big Head Todd and the Monsters

Jan 26- ?
Jan 27- Somewhere in New Hampshire
Jan 28- Bates College, Maine
Jan 30& Feb 1- Lupo's, Providence, RI
Feb 2 - Orono, Maine
Feb 3- Field House, Trinity College, Hartford, CT
Feb 4- Orpheum, Boston, MA
Feb 5- TBA (Please let it be New Haven!!!)
Feb 7- Northampton, MA
Feb 8- Albany, NY
Feb 10- Philadelphia, PA
Feb 11- TBA
Feb 12- Penn State U., Pennsylvania
The Symphony Shows aren't on the hotline
Feb 17- House of Blues, New Orleans, LA
Feb 20- Syracuse, NY
Feb 21- Somewhere in New Hampshire
Feb 23 & 24- Roseland Ballroom, NY,NY

There you have it, Again, sorry if this was posted earlier.

				-Adam


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:28 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: Ugly Americans???

HORDE.net is saying that Dave is touring not only with Big Head Todd, but a
band who I've heard of called Ugly Americans.

Bleh bleh bleh.



Ben

just another memo from the cellar,

     ************************************************************************
    *   "she said it's time i open my eyes           *   ben sterling      *
   *    don't be afraid to open your eyes           *  nebuious@aol.com   *
  *             maybe she's right."                *     new york, ny    * 
 *                 -tori amos                     *                     *
************************************************************************


Posted By: JIMMYP123@aol.com
Time/Date: 9:32 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: DMB Article

I just got the new issue of CD review, and it has a small article on DMB in
it's new bands section in case anyone is interested.  Kinda funny I think, it
is yet another article that just cannot seem to define their music.....It
did, however, compare DMB's methods for gaining a devoted audience to those
of Springsteen, Metallica, and U2.......wierd..........Dave's quote-"What
creates our sound is five completley different personalities that for some
reason really enjoy playing together.........." Sounds about right, don't ya
think??

                    Jimmy P.


Posted By: m970168@pratt.nadn.navy.mil
Time/Date: 9:34 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: BOONE!

 i just wanted to give a big ole hello to BOONE!

 	HELLO BOONE!

much love, 
dave

ps dave matthews is so awesome


Posted By: bullard@coral.bucknell.edu
Time/Date: 9:58 PM Wednesday, January 11, 1995
Subject: DMB on Letterman

	There's been a lot of talk about DMB appearing on Letterman.  I 
am also on the Allman Bros. net, and they appeared on Letterman Tuesday 
night.  Most of the talk on that net seems to center around how difficult 
it is for the band to play a song in only about 3:30, when their normal 
tendency is to jam around for a few minutes.  Anyway, I think DMB could 
fit more into this restricted mode of time, but it would definately 
detract from their performance.  It would limit what songs they could 
play, and possibly not allow any of the members to show their incredible 
musical talents due to the fact they had to hurry the song up.  I think 
having DMB on Letterman will be great for them, but it will be a shame if 
what happened to the Allman Bros. happens to DMB.  They looked very out 
of context trying to cut about six minutes off of what they would 
normaly play during Midnight Rider.  Oh well, just my $.02 worth.

Rusty 
bullard@coral.bucknell.edu


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 12:24 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: ?'s

Where is Sweetbriar College anyway? And is Trax spelled w/ one 'x' or two?
And the 02-04-94 and 04-05-94 Athens shows were plated at the Georgia 
Theater correct? Anyone? The promo posters went up around town today. 
They are pink...? It says DMB 'in concert with' Big Head Todd. Not saying 
who is the headliner. It is the same as the ad in the Phoenix (Boston 
City Paper) so I guess they will be using it everywhere...

Dave


Posted By: mo002a@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 12:29 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: DMB in Rochester/Syracuse

	Can someone let me know when and where Dave Matthews Band is going
to be in the Rochester/ Syracuse area wothin the next couple of months?  Have tickets already gone on sale
and how can I get them?  I'm not subscribed to the net, so can someone
please reply to me personally at:  mo002a@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
	Thanks.
						Michelle


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 12:32 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: WWYS on radio

Just to let you all know, I heard What Would You Say tonight on the
"comercial alternative" station in New Orleans.  The same station that 
LOVES Mazzy Starr (yuck-who likes repetitive sad music, anywayz?)   

My friend said he heard a Dave song in Taco Bell!  Pray to god that Dave 
wont be on Taco Bell's next "hip" CD.

In Tulsa, I heard Typical Situation on Digital Cable Radio.  Very Cool.  Later,
BT's Run Around was also aired...

But I do think the the video will become a buzz clip before too long, but I 
think there is no chance of Dave attracting the fullout "pop" audiences and
following that Spin Doctors created...  Dave's music is just too complex
for most people to understand and appreciate.  But, I also 
think that Feb. 17 will be the LAST TIME that I will get to see Dave in a 
bar that only holds 500 people.  BUMMER. 

By the way, MARDI GRAS is Feb. 28 this year.... The biggest days are the 
last 5 or so... yahoo! (Todd, you better come!)

later,
victor
wandres@tulane.edu


Posted By: koliver1@ua1ix.ua.edu
Time/Date: 1:51 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: nothing

i tried to go to sleep
this morning
at 7 or 8 or 9

and there were a bunch of
workers outside the house

wouking
working 
working


working

like ants.....  
weird

hammering the same way

i think dominic had a point

except for that he killed them all
and its illegal to harm workers

...
keith


Posted By: croutons@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 7:19 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: 1 more vid. story

hi everyone-

I just thought I'd share this story. I hadn't seen the video until the 
other night (just say no to mtv) when I was in...TARGET. That's right, 
the close-circuit tv in the music/electronics dept had DMB playing. Oh my.

Cheers,
Justin

| "..old enough to know what's right, but young enough   |       Roweman
|  not to choose it...noble enough to win the world, but |   croutons@leland.
|  weak enough to lose it"                               |     stanford.edu
|                                        -Rush           |On a midnight radio..


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 7:27 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: sleeppppppeeepp

people...this is soooooo weird....

i was just looking at all the little forms
for the raredave tree people
and i noticed something odd.....
i have (for analogue, high bias)
33branches, and 19 leaves....

i have never seen anything like taht...ever

and i was wondering about
other stuff.....too, but i keep
wanting to goto sleeeeeppp...but...

toole...toole toletoole
toole..md  toole
mail doesnt go to you....

it gets returned...help help...

try mailing me....please?
thanks :)

keith

oh--- andd to my newbies...
 ill send ya something
tomorrow....k?


Posted By: hauser@server.chem.ufl.edu
Time/Date: 8:40 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Dying to be in the Big Easy

Somebody correct me if i'm wrong but I believe this unbelievabale three day
line up is rolling through N'Awlins in February:

2/15 Spin Doctors     House of Blues
2/16 Blues Traveler         "
2/17 Dave Matthews Band     "

WOW!!! What are the chances Popper sits in with the other two bands??? 
Insane!  I don't think I can road trip... :(
________________________________________________________________________________

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 Department of Chemistry    hauserbt@pine.circa.ufl.edu     THE DRIVE FOR
 University of Florida                                       FIVE IS ALIVE!!!
________________________________________________________________________________


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:51 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Dave who?

SO does the reliable letterman source comes from Dave's mom...
Which Dave?
Letterman....
...or Matthews...?


hmmmmmm.....

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Posted By: Matthew.J.Hammill@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 9:52 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: nothing

are you people serious???!!!!  the dave matthews band sucks!  Get a life!


matt hammill
dartmouth


Posted By: Matthew.J.Hammill@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 10:01 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE MINARETS MIKE.HARRIOT@DARTMOUTH.EDU

  The Dartmouth programming board has done it again! We get to see the Dave
Matthews Band AND Big Head Todd and the Monsters!   Too bad that BOTH OF THESE
BANDS SUCK BIGTIME!!!  And get me off your pathetic list!! 

matt hammill


Posted By: MAVELASQ@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:12 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Jammerhacks

I'm looking for a HQ tape of the Hammerjacks show from this past summer
(7/27/94???????).  If anyone is willing to put together a trade, I'll
be more than happy to do so.  I've got a pretty good selection of
shows from 92, 93, and 94.  E-mail if you're interested!  Thanks.

Mav

PS--Does anyone know the exact night when Dave will appear on Letterman??


Posted By: mfavero@dcs.uga.edu
Time/Date: 11:01 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Mailing List

Please send me a mailing list of upcoming shows.  

My E-Mail address is --mfavero@dcs.uga.edu

My postal address is --M. David Favero
		       327 S. Milledge Ave.
		       Athens, GA  30605

Thank you very much.

David


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 11:54 AM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Stereogram on r2t

O.k., this has probably been brought up a zillion times.  I didn't see 
it in the FAQ but that doesn't mean it's not there-I am notrious for 
overlooking the obvious.  My heartfelt apologies to all, dear readers.  
However, in my effort to perfect my procrastination technique it occurs 
to me to ask if anyone has actually seen anything in the 3-d pic on the 
album cover or poster of the album cover?

I'd like to second (or third) the opinion that the web page is wonderful 
and keep us posted when new goodies are available.

Information is not Knowledge, Knowledge is not Wisdom, Wisdom is not Truth,

		K.A. Long		NYSERNet, Inc.
		Internet:		klong@nysernet.org
		WWW:			http://nysernet.org/staff/klong

Truth is not Beauty, Beauty is not Love, Love is not Music, Music is The Best!


Posted By: jgraves@world.std.com
Time/Date: 12:09 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: cry freedom (film)

Hey there!  I'm just following up on the comment about Cry Freedom the 
movie.  Having only recently heard the DMB song of the same name, I was 
curious what the connection might be about between the song and movie.  
I don;t know the lyrics, so I can't really compare.  But the basic theme 
of the movie is liberation and isolation... how one black man (Steve Biko) 
argued and fought for the liberation of himself and his nation from an 
oppressive system and how one white newspaper editor who befriended him 
(Donald Woods) had to escape the one country he had ever called home just 
to get the remarkable story of his friend out to the world...

Considering how many DMB songs deal with yearning for physical, emotional, 
and/or spiritual freedom, I thought there might be some connection.

The movie is good.  The soundtrack is excellent, and the final song (also
called Cry Freedom) is chilling and invigorating.  Lots of African rythms
and such.

Thanks for letting me ramble.

Be Well!
jerm
 __________________________________________________________________________
\ Jeremy C. Graves    [jgraves@world.std.com]   Cambridge, Massachusetts  /
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  \  \\\\\\|//////  \*** To find happiness, be as if a child. Play and */
  /   |###   ###|    \*** share.  Dance and sing. Love one another. ****\
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Posted By: GOTTLIEB@BU4090.BARRY.EDU
Time/Date: 12:10 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: That guy is flaming

Just a few things to say(after all, it is lunchtime).
About that guy who totally flamed the net...normally I wouldn't be
one to say anything, but you are a poopie head.
Also, thanks to Dusty for those superb tapes, especially the Lexington
show.  Cry Freedom was amazing and I really liked the jam into 
Halloween.  Great filler too.  Also, thanks to Katharine for my tape back.
And what's the deal with Dave on Letterman?  I think I purged that 
message by accident.  And finally, does anyone know anything about
the Lucasfilm Tie Fighter simulation game.  It turned my hard drive 
into a major snail.

Bye,

Adam


Posted By: Matthew.J.Hammill@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 12:20 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Mailing List

people,

I would like to clarify one thing:  I did not voluntarily join your newsgroup. 
The DMB and BHT are playing at Dartmouth in the near future.  I guess as some
kind of promotion evidently random people from Dartmouth were somehow added to
this list.  So, I woke up this morning to find a ton of messages about a band I
think is rather shitty and contrived.  If the messages were about a cool band
like Pavement or Dinosaur Jr. I'd be psyched.  But the Dave Matthews Band, give
me a break.   Again, I would have no reason to talk to any of you if i hadn't
been put on your stupid list, maybe it was a mistake.  But you still all suck
just as harsh ly as the Dave Matthews Band.

sincerely,

Matthew J. Hammill


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 12:29 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: ?'s

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Meighan Webber wrote:

> Where is Sweetbriar College anyway? And is Trax spelled w/ one 'x' or two?

Sweetbriar College is a small all girls school in Amherst, Virginia. Its 
an hour south of Charlottesville, and an hour east of Lexington (unless 
you drive like my ex girlfriend who goes there, she swears a 25 min 
trip). 

Trax is one x....to bad its not 3, like those cheezy porn channels 
Traxxx ...
hehehe
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Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 12:30 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: Stereogram on r2t

Yeah, on the stereogram there is a hand showing the peace sign, it is
flattened in a non-three-d way around the thumb...but it is definitely
there.  Have you been able to see others?  Some are remarkably detailed...
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Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 12:38 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: i don't have time to be doing this, dammit...

>Finally, Valentine's Day is approaching. 34 days, for those of you who 
>will not see the band until then. Listen to old shows (from the Greisar 
>Age), and just think how great some of these songs will sound backed by 
>an entire symphony. For a time I thought Halloween would be great, and it 
>may be, but Lover Lay Down...
>
actually, i think some of the sound affects peter uses on songs like
true reflections (granted, a song i feel is intrinsically flawed) and
others sound pretty stupid.  don't get me wrong, some of the things
he did are so missed by the band that they won't play certain songs
anymore (so much to say, people people) and rightfully so.

what i would suggest is zoning to under the table and dreaming and
some of the really ethereal mixes they put on boyd and you will get
just a dashing hint of what's to come.  particularly, pay attention
to satellite (a song i have a feeling will make me cry that particular
night, honestly) and jimi thing. (hey boofy, think they'll have any
bagpipes?)

though i would have to agree that if the symphony can emulate what
peter did for lover, we're all going to mess our pants.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 12:38 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: well, not so phast...

>On Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:51:51 -0500 NAME said:
>>3.  It's only a matter of time before dmb performs on the Late Show with
>>    Letterman!
>
>   certianly not....do you know something that we dont?
>eeek!  dave and paul?
>could be *interesting*
>really really really really really scary,
>but interesting nonetheless..............
>keith

well, phish did it.  and i'd have to say it had an interesting perk:
with paul playing (albeit electronic) hammond organ, paige was left
to really tear his grand piano apart.

not that there's any piano left in dave songs.  hey, maybe paul could
make things interesting.

personally i think dave would fit right in with dave.  or something like
that.
____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
would you rather see him on conan? \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
       i think not....              \____________________________________


Posted By: l_leclai@hamlet.uncg.edu
Time/Date: 12:41 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: Stereogram on r2

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, K.A. Long wrote:

> 
> O.k., this has probably been brought up a zillion times.  I didn't see 
> it in the FAQ but that doesn't mean it's not there-I am notrious for 
> overlooking the obvious.  My heartfelt apologies to all, dear readers.  
> However, in my effort to perfect my procrastination technique it occurs 
> to me to ask if anyone has actually seen anything in the 3-d pic on the 
> album cover or poster of the album cover? 

Well, I've never seen it discussed here, and I hope it's not in the FAQ.  
That would ruin the surprise!  I love the stereogram on R2T, cos it's the 
only one I've ever been able to see!!  It makes me happy  :)

Any thoughts as to what the band might be doing after all the tour dates 
that were just posted?

"Be happy, it's one way of being wise..."

-Dash  :)

ps.  hey y'all, what's up with the Wake tree??


Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 12:52 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Dark clouds hanging

First there was a feeling of exhilaration.  "Yippy Yeah my tapes arrived!!"
Three new tapes billed as second and third gen sound board dat.  o.k. cool.

Then there was the guilt..."oops uh I didn't send my tapes out yet.  Still
have 2 to tape."  Since all this occurred after some carousing around town,
I stayed up relatively late fulfilling my obligations.

So this morning on my rushed way to work (guess I stayed up a little too
late, cause I overslept), I decided to pop in my newly acquired
treasure...but something's not right, folks...dave is hidden behind the
diabolic chimera of hissy static...gotta turn the volume up to like three
to hear properly...NR on, treble down, bass up then down, it just ain't
workin'...

And now I'm stewin' and brewin' a bit.  Trying to rationalize doin' the
right thing, but having a rough time escaping this feeling of being
tricked.  I don't want to send my tapes out now.  I want to send those
tapes back.  Dave through a tin can is never good...

I know, I know.  I especially should send out my rarest and neatest dave
(Special thanks to Adam V whom I will never stop thanking--and a little
trading plug: I am always, always looking for more, which is I quess what
got me into this trouble) This poor guy is forced appearantly to always
listen to dave in a can.  Spread the goodness, love and pure joy that is
DMB.  Still, I can't help feeling cheated.  These goods were not delivered
as billed.  I am angry, disappointed, increasingly cynical...

I guess the only constructive thing I can add is a little reminder to those
who might need it:  Hey, most of us (well me anyway) would rather hear a
newbie grovel in a real sweet way then be tricked into trading for
something that ain't so hot.  

Anyone wishing to spoon or hug this dark cloud from the core of my soul, is
certainly encouraged to do so...Advice and nebulous sympathy would also be
appreciated.  How would you handle it?

--"Would you like to swim naked, maybe make love in the water?"  Newly fav
DM quote ;-)
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Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 1:31 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging

After reading your comments on hearing Dave through a tin can, I
would like to make this note:

I think everyone on this net has gotten spoiled (myself included)
with hearing excellent quality 1st and 2nd generation dave tapes.
I remember when I got my first dave tape a few years ago,
(election night 92), it was so fuzzy and horrible that the
Halloween song was barely distinguishable.  I, instead of
bitching, was overjoyed to have a recording of such a great band
in my hands, since they had no cd's, and had no plans of changing
that fact.  This was also when there were only 2, *maybe* 3
people taping shows (on good nights), so ALL the tapes came from
one of very few places.  These days there are shitloads of people
taping (I counted 13 analog and about 7 or 8 DATs at the NYE
show), so we EXPECT great sounding dave.  My point is--just be
glad you've got a tape of this band that you would not otherwise
have if you hadnt known anyone on this net, or that someone hadnt
kindly volunteered to tree for you.  Be grateful.  Kiss the
ground that they walk upon.  But dont bitch.

On a closing note--Even though Ive recently obtained a 1st gen
copy of Election night, nothing beats the old fuzzy copies of
11-2-92 or 11-17-92 that you can barely hear peter in.  They are
great, and I'll listen to either of those before some of the SHIT
that DMB is playing now.



Just venting a little,

Wade

PS-Can I have one of your fish postcards?


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 1:33 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Dave and the band hanging out in the Sprite can....

hmmmm....sometimes the tin can effect makes me happy...

yunno...the old days where the only tapes you could find were a friends 
frineds friends copy....from who knows when a Trax...
before the soundboard was the best....
To hear it in your car, you had to turn it all the way up or have a big 
amplifier...
Listnen to Bagby adjusting mixes during songs...peters keyboard being 
quite load, then disappearing....

Most of my musically performancewise best tapes are my worst quality...
my best version of Drive In Drive Out full band has hiss....i jsut get 
used to it...kinda puts a date/age on tapes....like good wine...

Not that im not happy with the stellar patches we get now....
just everything cant sound perfect....
and ill take anything thats a good performance, whether its clear or not...

somehting i taped two nites ago is primary vocals due to the nature of 
the venue, but I just nix the midramge to bring em down, and still listen 
to it, guitar, drums are hard to hear, bass is almost nonexistent...
still a gREAT performance (clare and emily, Q&M) yunno what im tlking about)

when i see someone day "lookin for high quality tapes" or "1 or 2nd gen 
soundboard only" i think you are limiting yourself a nd missin alot of 
good shows.....

and on Mariannes post....i dont htink anyone was tryin to trick you...
dpending on someones collection, their opinion of quality varies....I 
though i had a great sndbrd of dave when i started getting into him. Then 
i did my first tape myself back in 93 and it amazed me....
sometimes poeple have different perspectives on what is good qualtiy

this isnt directed at anyone or anything....jsut ramblin off toop of my 
head....

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Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 1:51 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Mailing List (fwd)

Forwarded message:
> From minarets@moose.uvm.edu Thu Jan 12 12:47 EST 1995
> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 12:46:58 -0500
> Message-Id: <14548404@vixen.Dartmouth.EDU>
> Reply-To: Matthew.J.Hammill@Dartmouth.EDU
> Originator: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
> Sender: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
> Precedence: bulk
> From: Matthew.J.Hammill@Dartmouth.EDU (Matthew J. Hammill)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
> Subject: Mailing List
> X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas
> X-Comment:  Open discussion for the dave matthews band
> Content-Type: text
> Content-Length: 716
> 
> people,
> 
> I would like to clarify one thing:  I did not voluntarily join your newsgroup. 
> The DMB and BHT are playing at Dartmouth in the near future.  I guess as some
> kind of promotion evidently random people from Dartmouth were somehow added to
> this list.  So, I woke up this morning to find a ton of messages about a band I
> think is rather shitty and contrived.  If the messages were about a cool band
> like Pavement or Dinosaur Jr. I'd be psyched.  But the Dave Matthews Band, give
> me a break.   Again, I would have no reason to talk to any of you if i hadn't
> been put on your stupid list, maybe it was a mistake.  But you still all suck
> just as harsh ly as the Dave Matthews Band.
> 
> sincerely,
> 
> Matthew J. Hammill
> 
We apologize for "sucking", as you put it.  

What you need is a really, really, really big jar of gourmet jelly beans...
it may not make you like DMB any more than you already do, which is obviously
very little...but it will make you smile, I promise...try it.

Hoping for CONSTRUCTIVE criticism,

Shug


Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 1:58 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging

Yes, in some ways I know you are right.  Just  by being on the net we have
access to great stuff that many others don't have.  But there is mucho
great quality stuff in existence, and I want it even if every dave fan
can't have it.  I am grateful.  I am thankful.  That don't mean that I
don't want more.  There is the sensitive soul within me.  But surely you
can understand the inevitable frustration...

Look, my collection is new and growing, I have spent lots of time hooking
up MANY friends not on the net with my tapes, they who have none.  So I am
always eager to find friends that _do_ have tapes, ala swappola everybody
happy.  

My point was less bitching about poor quality (admittantly a component, not
central feature) but more the problems of communicating about what is good
and what is not good.  I hear 2nd gen and am told HQ, i think  "good" I
want that.  Trade.  Maybe not everyone understands that with each copy the
gen gets bigger?  If someone had said, I have some, not so good, I would
very likely say, nah don't want, but why don't you send me some tapes and
you can have whalla this.  See the diff?

Still no takers on skinny dipping...
M

Oh BTW, I do not agree that Dave is playing SHIT nowadays, nope not a very
accurate adjective at all, but If you wanna try and convince me by sending
some of your great quality old stuff I'd be glad to send you the new tapes
I got last night ;-).
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Posted By: molly@ctg1.com
Time/Date: 2:16 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Shug and the other jerko guy

Shug, while I totally admire your motivation, I don't apologize for sucking.
We don't.  I'm all for constructive criticism, tho. Maybe there are people
on the planet who like DinoJr and that other band.  One thing that
distinguishes people on Minarets is open-mindedness and lack of superiority
complexes.  This dartmouth guy wouldn't belong even if he did like DMB.
There's something redeeming in just about every kind of music, and even in
every person, no matter how hidden it must be in dartmouth-boy's
personality.  Seems like most people on this net see that.  If d-boy doesn't
he should be quiet and go away.


Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 2:21 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: BehindCurtain#1

I cannot come to terms with the fact that although I am a mere 2 hours away
from Philly, I will not be seeing the show.  

Let's make a deal:

First,  I have created some  really neat tape covers (Ben T. gets full
photo credit on each one) and although I have not resolved a few technical
issues of getting them from the computer, these are only temporary.  You
tell me who or what you like best, I could provide some neat covers. 
(Anyone who trades with me also gets these, compliments of the
trade...maybe incentive to Boofy, clare, and anyone else who sounds like
they have a collection which I could never listen to without their help?)

There is, however, an additional caveat, I really really need more than
one.  Minimum two, hate to sound demanding, more is better ;), but what I
want I have not got...

Behind Curtain number2:
now I admittantly don't know what I am getting myself into with this, but I
am seriously considering buying a mid-level analogue recorder so i can
start taping some shows.  I still need to do some shopping and some
interviewing of admitted tapers (Boofy?), but there is always that
possibility that I will try and tape the Philly show...assuming link
available...and perhaps just the mere possibility is enough to sway your
thought process in my favor...

marianne
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Posted By: Matthew.J.Hammill@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 2:24 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: her we go again

--- "your head is a shovel-- use it." wrote:
why did you bother to subscribe if you hate them.
--- end of quoted material ---

I   did NOT subscribe to this list, i was somehow put on it as some kind of
marketing ploy to get me to buy tickets to the show when the band comes here. 
I didn't know it was possible to subscribe someone else to a newsgroup but
evidently it is.   I guess its easy enough to get someones email address
though.   I really do not have a great hate for Dave Matthews( though the music
is not my cup of tea), i just felt the urge to flame a newsgroup that is
filling my computer with messages.  I am on several other similar groups
currently so I really do not need a large dose of new messages for no apparent
reason.   Whoever thought of the bright idea to add a bunch of random people to
this list must have realized people would flame just for the fun of it or
because they were actually pissed off.  I am more amused myself by this than
pissed.
      Also as far as pavement and dinosaur neither of these bands have any
connection whatsoever to seattle/grunge bands.   And they are certainly not
standard MTV fare. DMB may not itself be a contrived band, but they are being
followed by people who I see as being possibly insincere and trendy.   I fear
for the DMB that they would be turned into another Phish or Blues Traveller by
people who realize that the Dead are getting tired, and must find a new band to
follow around and put  their stickers on their Saabs of volkswagens as they
wear birks and  yet are somehow more in touch with the earth and and more
peaceful than me.
     I just do not like "scenes" at all, and i see DMB as evolving into
something like that.  
    Perhaps the bands i listed were misleading.   How about Leonard Cohen,
Cowboy Junkies, My Bloody Valentine, and Uncle Tupelo especially for music that
isn't "contrived" as I say.
       well goodbye

matt hammill


Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 2:32 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: promise:brief

anyone got the idea I'm having a slow day at work, and particularly jonesing
for a DMB show?

'Kay, quick response to sumthin boof said...
Yes, I agree that some recording of a great show is better than none.  But
if good exist...(and what I hoped I was getting)*

Also, I did not mean to directly accuse anyone of deliberately deceiving
me.  Intellectually, not an issue.  Emotionally, being occassionally
reactionary, there is the Feeling of being fooled (located right of the
heart, just above the stomach and akin to briefly losing one's breath)
which is probably not very different than being disappointed and looking
for a scape goat.  

"What you see, what you see, what you see is human"
marianne

*the particular trader and I have resolved all, it was a misunderstanding
of course...I am now prepared to let this particular aspect of the thread
fall by the wayside.  
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Posted By: jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 2:35 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: VIRGINIANS: seeking frats, clubs

I'm quietly trying to put together a piece of magic but need some
help to flush out a few rough edges.

I'm looking for fraternties and nightclubs in Virginia that' be
interested in hiring some live out-of-state music. I can only say
at this point that it's bands you've heard about on this and
other nets, and that there may be a total of 30 shows.

Please respond personally, to me, at
jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
rather than to the net or to jeg5s@virginia.edu

Danke mucho.
Ellis (of Lemuria)


-- 
Ellis ("of Lemuria") Godard * * POB 3240, Charlottesville,VA 22903
><>  jeg5s@virginia.edu  ><>  jeg5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu  ><>
  MA Candidate, UVA Sociology Dept. -- Admin. for Phish FAQ File
  (804) 296-9692 - Keep gliding, smiling, & riding that train...


Posted By: klong@nysernet.ORG
Time/Date: 2:40 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Flame Bait Warning

In an effort to procrastinate further and also in hopes that it
will stave off a lot of 'you suck too' messages, please don't
respond to this obvious 'flame bait' post.

klong

>From: Matthew.J.Hammill@Dartmouth.EDU (Matthew J. Hammill)
>To: minarets@moose.uvm.edu
>Subject: Re: nothing
>Message-ID: <14545189@vixen.Dartmouth.EDU>
>
>are you people serious???!!!!  the dave matthews band sucks!  Get a
>life!
>
>
>matt hammill
>dartmouth


Posted By: podella@ldpost1.daytonoh.NCR.COM
Time/Date: 2:46 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Tour Dates

I just subscribed and missed the tour dates that were obviously just posted.
Could some one please mail them to me as I don't want to waist band-width 
sending to the entire list.
Thanks,
Phil
Phil.Odella@DaytonOH.NCR.COM


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 2:57 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: her we go again

matt.
you kind dear soul...
you surely need spooning, 
surely...
just a littlel bit'o sugar makes the medicine go down.
yup. sometimes i can do a good mary poppins imitation.
(you should see me fly....)

to ever so graciously unsubscribe yourself from
this net for which you have so much disdain..
you simply send mail to:
listproc@moose.uvm.edu
and say
unsubscribe minarets

see?
not too tricky.
my kitty just unsubscribed herself last week!
she figgered i'd tell her all the goodies
and her  little paws got tired of not fitting the 
keys on thekeyboard.

and please remember...
'as long as you have hostility you are separated from love and faith.'
you can borrow some of my love...
i've got lots to go around....
i've always got extra love...

love and light
and TAPES THAT WENT OUT TO CLIFF TODAY!!!! (YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAH!!!!!!)
clare 'it's a jolly holiday with mary!!! mary makes the world go round!'emily


*******************************************************************************
'yeah i know this life's got a lot to give. but my childhood is gone, and i'm 
 not afraid of dying... i'm gonna grab this world by the horns, and then i'll
  leave... '           -solitude... edwin mccain band...
		                                        
                  cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
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Posted By: afn06030@freenet.ufl.edu
Time/Date: 3:00 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: DMB in Florida

Supposedly (and I mean supposedly), DMB and BHT are supposed to play at 
the University of Florida sometime around the beginning of April.  From 
what I hear it will be in the O'Connel Center which sits about 9,000 for 
a concert.  There's gonna be two other bands playing as well... all for 
the meager price of ten bucks for UF students.  Probably will cost fifteen 
for everyone else.  Anybody else in Florida hear this ?


--J Hoppe


Posted By: cugan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Time/Date: 3:03 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: This net sucks!

Everyone, Get a life!  There's more to life than the DMB!


Posted By: Matthew.J.Hammill@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 3:27 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: that guy

I, the Great Evil One, had nothing to do with that last guy.  Really


Posted By: HAINS@suvax1.stetson.edu
Time/Date: 3:36 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: "Anne" in "Under the..." CD case?

Under the CD in the Under the Table and Dreaming CD case, there is a picture of
Dave (?) and kid and the phrase "In memory of Anne."  Who is Anne?  Wife? 
Someone dead?  Thanks!
Bryan

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Posted By: SAKUNZ@MIAVX1.BITNET
Time/Date: 3:41 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Its not Matt Hamill's fault

First of all, I will say that I do not know Matt Hamill, nor have I ever even
heard of him, so I have no reason to try to protect him.
Now to my point.  Is not the reason that most people subscribe to Minarets.net
because they WANT to talk about and hear about this greatest of all bands????
I doubt there is anybody who can dispute that.  Well, then it is not Matt
Hamill's fault that he got onto this net, assuming he is telling the truth
about why he is here.  It is the person on the program board, the brainchild
who decided that the best way to get people to buy tickets and go see this
concert would be to subscribe them to this sometimes overwhelming list in terms
of its magnitude.  Yea, and then lets get their credit card numbers and buy
CD's for them and surprise them again.  ANyways, you get the point.  THe best
thing to do is not to flame him back, but to tell him how to unsubscribe, which
is what he probably wants.  If you want to reflame anybody, find out the genius
who subscribed all these people to the net just because they go to Dartmouth or
wherever Mr. Hamill goes.  Maybe a better idea for Mr. Program Board supervisor
would have been to have the Minarets address on the advertisements.  Anything
would have been better.  Its kind of like your parents buying a "nice looking"
new pair of pants for you in the 3rd grade without any input from you and
making you put them on to go to school while you where still sleeping.
Although that would be hard, unless you sleep as soundly as me, but that's not
important right now.  I could tell you all the story about that, but then I'd
have to kill you:)
Anyways, Mr. Hamill, if you haven't been told this already, to unsubscribe,
send a message to listproc@moose.uvm.edu with the message of the body saying
"unsubscribe <your name>"
 
Thanks for hearing my logical reasoning,
 
Steve
whose body is in lingo because its January 12 and its 70 degrees in Ohio


Posted By: Matthew.J.Hammill@dartvax.dartmouth.edu
Time/Date: 4:19 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: the last one

 I think I may have figured out what actually happened.   I believea person
named michael j harriot from dartmouth is a subscriber to this list and that
somehow I am getting things sent to me because of this because we have the same
initials.   I can be reached by email through mjh@dartmouth and maybe he can
too.  This should not happen though, I could be completely wrong.   No one I
have talked to you today has received anything fromn your group, however.
     I think if there had been a large scale effort to subscribe dartmouth
students to this newsgroup there would be others responding to this list.  
This is the last you'll hear from me, you can get on with talking about the
band, which IMHO, still sucks!! Ha!


matt hammill


Posted By: mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu
Time/Date: 5:02 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Scratchin' corrections

Forwarded message:
> 
>  anyone living in Richmond,VA : 
> 
>  *** SCRATCHIN' JONES tour dates*** (by popular demand of two)
> 
>  1995 Shockoe Bottom world tour
> 
> 1/12  Awful Arthurs    18th street & Franklin (up street from Flood Zone)
>                           21 and up
> 
> 1/13  Rack n' Roll    E.Main Street (shockoe bottom across from 1708 club)
>                           21 and up
> 
> 1/14  Walnut Alley Tap  6 N.18th street (small place,good vibes)
>                           21 and up
> 
> we are an acoustic power trio. there are two guitars and vocals and
> i play an African drumset, learned how to play by banging on my chest 
> at over a hundred Dave Matthews shows. Carter de' groovyiest.....
>  
> tahnx for yo' support. and remember to Scratch Yo' Jones. PEACE.
> 
>     
>                         firey little creature of love,
> 
>                                    CHA * *
>                                        \_/
> 
>      
>


Posted By: eafu077@ea.oac.uci.edu
Time/Date: 5:52 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 2

Hi...could you take this address (eafu077@ea.oac uci.edu) off your mailing 
list?  Or let me know how to do this?
Thanks,
Jessica Parris


Posted By: podella@ldpost1.daytonoh.NCR.COM
Time/Date: 6:23 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Help with shows

First off, I am new to DMB.  I have both CD's, but only have 2 shows and am 
greatly in need of more.  From what I've heard from these two shows and 
being a musician myself, I am already classifying and respecting DMB as one 
of my very favorite bands.  I am hoping to set up some trades where I can 
get some more great DMB.  If anyone is interested in trading for some BT, 
WSP, ABB, or a variety of other bands from U2-Hendrix please mail me and 
I'll send my list.  I am really eager to be completely turned-on by this 
band and at this point can't imagine ever getting  enough DMB.
Thanks in advance,
Phil
Phil.Odella@DaytonOH.NCR.COM


Posted By: chico@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 6:32 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Blue Screen Show Setlist 1/12

Hey everyone,

The Blue Screen Show w/ Chico & GQ
New Night: 2-3:30 WEDNESDAY Nights/THURSDAY Mornings

89.3 WNUR-FM, Evanston-Chicago


1/5/94 

"Brazil Theme-->"   .............Brazil Soundtrack
"Simmer Down"(underneathe opening schpeil)....Bob Marley "Songs of Freedom"
"Llama"..........................Phish 10/18/94 Nashville, TN
"Dancing Nancies"................Dave Matthews Band 9/30/94 Roseland, NYC
"Snail"..........................Smashing Pumpkins
"Antelope".......................Phish, 11/25/94 UIC Pavillion, Chicago
"China Cat Sunflower-->I Know You Rider" ...Grateful Dead "Without a Net"
"Ivory Tusk".....................Blues Traveler 8/16/94 GSAC Holmdel. NJ
"Lost in a Crowd"................Rusted Root 12/2/94 Coronet, Evanston, IL
"Best of What's Around"..........Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds 7/27/93
"Curtis Lowe"....................Phish, 10/30/90  Crested Butte, CO
"Big House Blues"................Ren & Stimpy

Next Week NYE Run Extravaganzzzzzza!!!!!!!!

 |
/ \

Brian

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|Northwestern University                   {    !     }  |  BL   SCR    | |
|Bobb Hall #107, 2305 Sheridan Road         ( \    / )   |    UE   EEN  | |
|Evanston, IL 60201                          ( \__/ )    ---------------- |
|Ladies and Gentleman...On Drums..Mr. Ernest Giussepe Anastasio!-Henrietta|
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Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 6:33 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: this tape thing

ok--i gotta agree with boofy on this one...
i recieved a (probably) fifth generation or so...
of a tape i wanted....and i generally like only
hq dubs...but i got this
and it is increadible......i mean..he
doesnt sound like hes in a can....but maybe
has a cold...(and he didnt cause i was at the show)

but it is different.... a little muddled and
i think somewhere alon the way, a tape machine was running slow
or fast or something...and my best of whats around sounds like
a fucking funeral durge...i loooove it...

i mean, i have enough normal copies of ants
it was surprising to get this, but even more
surprising to love it...

better than cats....and i will be happy to tape
it for ya marrianne, because it's good

just different....

no can....no level changes

just a slug-like version of a good faster tune....

keith


Posted By: MCDW49C@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 7:23 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: lyrics, faq

i've asked what seems like a hundred people...is there
anyone who could tell me (or even better, send me)...the
lyrics file (unreleased) and/or faq file.  i might even drop 
some tapes in the mail for whoever can help me out.
thanks....


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 7:31 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: Stereogram on r2t

On Thu, 12 Jan 1995 12:12:19 -0500 K.A. Long said:
>O.k., this has probably been brought up a zillion times.  I didn't see
>it in the FAQ but that doesn't mean it's not there-I am notrious for
>overlooking the obvious.  My heartfelt apologies to all, dear readers.
>However, in my effort to perfect my procrastination technique it occurs
>to me to ask if anyone has actually seen anything in the 3-d pic on the
>album cover or poster of the album cover?
>
   well, kalong and dash....i can see it clearly,....
in fact, i thought that was the cover, until someone asked me about
the cd with all the dots on it....

of course...i probably helps that im colour blind...

it actually resembles any other stereogram colour
blind test, to me....except that its a better picture

not just numbers and lines...

keith


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 7:49 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: NEW ORLEANS SOLD OUT

Dave sold out the House of Blues in New Orleans in just TWO DAYS.  This 
is BEFORE the new HOuse Of Blues calendar was even released!  
Unfortunately I was unable to get a ticket (I didnt even know they would 
be on sale yet!)...  Luckily, Blues Traveler had not sold out (Feb. 16) 
the night before so I picked one up for the hefty price of $17.50!  whEW!

If ANYBODY KNOWS HOW I CAN GET A TICKET PLEASE CONTACT ME!!

See ya-------
Victor 
wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu

.......hoping their will be guest appearances.....


Posted By: MEDICUS@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU
Time/Date: 7:49 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 2

dear mister dartmouth dude:
  I think I speak for many of us when I apologize for your address being put on
the dmb mailing list.  it is not for closed minded people that like to degrade
others for what they enjoy.  please crawl back into your  hole and let us be.
I doubt that you will read this because you have already unsubscribed, but that
is probably better so we don't have to hear from you again.

onto more important and relevant stuff:  I need an id
I've got a tape from columbia SC with no date.  I know that it is not the show
in late Jan or Feb of 94 at Rockafellas.  I believe it is from a homecoming
party that about 50-75 people showed up for.  of note on the tape and this
strictly from memory are  Tripping Billies (old into) and Familiar Situation.
Appreciate any help

Dave on Dave would be cool little thing.  someone was worried about Mr. Paul
Schafer (I murdered it I know) playing with dmb, but didn't he record with BT
on their last album.  I was surprised and found kind of funny.
bye for now
mark


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 8:02 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging

>Still no takers on skinny dipping...
>M
>
>Oh BTW, I do not agree that Dave is playing SHIT nowadays, nope not a very
>accurate adjective at all, but If you wanna try and convince me by sending
>some of your great quality old stuff I'd be glad to send you the new tapes
>I got last night ;-).
>
you tell em' marianne, i agree with your indignancy, hey wade why don't you 
trade your gems for aluminum siding ;-  i love nyc irony...eric


Posted By: mpjohnso@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
Time/Date: 8:31 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: FRED

sorry to post this on the net but i was just wondering if FRED HOUSE is 
still around. i don't know fred or anything, but ever since he was 
massively flamed a few months ago for writing all those messages(HOWEVER 
POINTLESS THEY MAY HAVE BEEN) i haven't seen anything on the net from him. 
fred, if you're out there please post something. if my memory serves me 
correctly, a message you wrote was the first message i ever read on this net,
and i guess that makes you kinda special to me. i hope eveythings cool 
with you bro, and stay cool.


L
 A 
  T
   E,       mikie j.


Posted By: driver8@phy.duke.edu
Time/Date: 8:33 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: WAIT SHOW

DAN!!!!  I NEED MY WAIT TAPES ASAP!!!! THE TREE MUST GO ON!

sean

                -----------------------------------------
            "People look at us funny when we go to the store"
			    - Trent Reznor -
                -----------------------------------------
                              Sean Spicer
                    Duke University, Dept. of Physics


Posted By: chobbs@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 9:09 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Re: WAIT SHOW

well well .. ive jsut reached the guy that i was supposed to get tapes 
from for this tree 
he said ... that he had gotten his yet , plus he was leaving for a 
semester away by the end of this month
 
sooo either .... someone needs replace him on the tree .... or jsut call 
it bust for everyone under him .. i think thats like the whole bottome 
half of the tree ..unless im way mistaken which is very likely


anyways .... unless i get these tapes from someone else .. id definately 
means that the 5 people i was making tapes for are out-o-luck ..
sorry 
and for the 2 of you that mailed me tapes already ... do you want me to 
copy sometthing else for you?

cathy


Posted By: johnfro@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 9:17 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: phish tour dates

if someone knows i would be really grateful if they could send me tour 
dates for phish's spring tour. i don't care if they are confirmed or just 
rumoured. only east coast would be even better. thanks a lot
						johnfro


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 9:20 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Looking to trade tapes!

hey now!
well, i've been listening to DMB for about 7 months now, and i've got some
shows under my belt. over break i finally got my hands on some great tapes.


Posted By: 50OGLESBY@CUA.EDU
Time/Date: 9:45 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: Looking to trae tapes!

hey now!
forget that last message. i sent it by mistake. anyway, as i said, i now
have some DMB to trade. the complete shows that i have are: DMB 10/26/93,
Trax, Dave and Tim 12/12/93, Charlottesville,VA, DMB 12/30/94, Wash.,D.C.
all are hih quality, low gen. three great shows. i would especially like to
get my hands on a tape from when Peter was still with the band. any help 
would be appreciated!

                     jonathan
                     1-800-HELP MYSELF


Posted By: meat@leland.Stanford.EDU
Time/Date: 9:49 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: get me off the list

Hi,
I don't know how to get off this list.  It is clogging up my mailbox.  I hope this message will take me off.

Thanks


Posted By: MP6546@aol.com
Time/Date: 11:00 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: New fan

Hi everyone, you don't really know me, but I've just joined the minarets and
I love to read all your little notes and find out more about the band.  I'm
15 years old (for your survey) and I heard about DMB from my sister who goes
to Duke University!!!  She's been to a couple concerts and I finally got to
see them live in St. Louis.  Does anyone know how I could get any
live-bootleg  versions of DMB besides the recently ablum.  I would really
appreciate it.  
that's all for now, 
Lindsay


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 11:12 PM Thursday, January 12, 1995
Subject: ATTN ROBERT4142 (i think?)

SEARCHING FOR ROBERT4142 or is it 6168 or maybe 4162?

Sorry for the waste os space, but I desperately need to get in touch with
my parent for the WAIT TREE!  Finals came up on me and I lost your address!
PLease email me if you get this message!

Thanks! 
Victor 
wandres@tulane.edu


Posted By: wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 12:48 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging

On Jan 12, 20:17, ericw wrote:
> Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging
> 
> >Still no takers on skinny dipping...
> >M
> >
> >Oh BTW, I do not agree that Dave is playing SHIT nowadays, nope not a very
> >accurate adjective at all, but If you wanna try and convince me by sending
> >some of your great quality old stuff I'd be glad to send you the new tapes
> >I got last night ;-).
> >
> you tell em' marianne, i agree with your indignancy, hey wade why don't you 
> trade your gems for aluminum siding ;-  i love nyc irony...eric
> -- End of excerpt from ericw <erw@medinfo.rochester.edu>



Im just sick of seeing Dave and co have to play concerts and
*PERFORM* every night, as opposed to just going out, having a
good time, and if someone fucks up a song, then hell, there's
always next Tuesday night.  I'm sick of the crowds being drunken
frat boys wanting to drink beers, scream "DAAAAVE!!!" or
"BOOOYYYYDDDD!!!" and pass each other around at shows RATHER than
just grooving to the music.  Im sick of Satellite being 1.7 miles
per hour.  Come to think about it...I dont think I want to see
Dave live much anymore at all...paying $25 dollars to hear _Under
the Table and Bleeding_  perfectly and identically reproduced on
stage really isnt my idea of a good time.  I think I'm going to
go listen to my old, fuzzy, barely audible copy of 11-17-92 and
remember what that show was like when I saw them play it...and
get lot within the keyboards in Cry Freedom or the maniacal
Violin in the Blue Water Baboon Farm...


Anyone care to join me???


Wade


PS--Can I have one of your fish postcards???


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 1:36 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: The 1st Amendment (fwd)

Two Parts} 1. Dont you think that DMB would be on Letterman around the 
	      23, 24th of Feb? Because of the Roseland dates? If at all...
	   2. Do not read the following if you are easily annoyed or sick 
	      of the bitching. I feel sorry for all those who are not 
	      back to their computers yet and have to see all of this :(

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:04:05 -0600 (CST)
From: George Neri <cugan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
To: <mwebber@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: The 1st Amendment

First of all, I'm a hotass and can write what I want where I want.  I
don't need some candyass to tell me what I can and cannot do.  I
enjoy the DMB as much as you, but what I don't enjoy is freaks
writing about all the miniscule shit!  I want to know when they are
playing and about new albums coming out or whatever.

***If thats it then just call 804-980-9636 BUT please do be careful 
***because they also tell you where they are playing, but you dont have 
***to listen to that (its your right.) And dont expect a new album for at 
***least nine months to 1 year.

What I don't need to know is the frigging set list to when they played
Pigsknuckle, Arkansas in '91 and how long their version of Christmas
Song played.

***Some people do (its their right.)
 
Another thing I don't care for is wondering why Leroi
Moore played a alto sax in the album version of Ants Marching and
played a tenor sax at the show in Fucking, Washington.  That's a
bunch of bull shit that is just wasting band width.  Don't even start
telling me that I'm wasting band width.  I'm just pissed off at all
the stupid people that write in to this net.  And why do I stay on?
No, it's not to piss off individuals and have them write me
personally.  It's because I like the band and want to find out some
things, but not rip the shit together.  And by the way, it's my
right...
Sorry if I upset you.  You know I didn't want to bug you.  Seriously,
I don't want you or anyone else to cry any more!

***No harm done. Its not taken personally! :)

'candyass' a.k.a Dave


Posted By: TSTORCH@flint.mines.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 1:56 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: corrections to video info

Hey all,

	I just thought I'd give my own story of the video shoot seeing
as I was reading all these things that were somewhat wrong:  

Nov 17 Dave announced at the Fox show (Boulder) that they would be 
shooting it the next day at 3 if anyone wanted to show up

The girl Dave talks to who doesn't want them to do it...well you can hear
her say it on the tape"don't do it Dave" etc.

Nov 18 we all show up an wait to be let in INCLUDING THIS GIRL who tells 
him not to do it.  You can also see her inthe front row on the video.
I think it's rather sad.

Anyways, that day they played WWYS over and over while they shot the video.
That nightt they played the first set with huge lights and WWYS twice amongst
others.  
the rest is history.
			Sorry to drag it out but I'm too tire to be brief and
			witty,
				Smiles and good dreams, Teresa


Posted By: mwebber
Time/Date: 2:19 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Dave in VT

Dave and BHT will be starting their little tour on the 26th in 
Burlington, VT. When purchasing the tickets, I was bummed to hear that 
Dave would be opening, but just also glad to be able to see them. Well, 
on the radio today, the guy says that DMB will be the headliner due to 
all of the responces. Wow! Pretty cool.

-Dave


Posted By: pdquinn@nyx.cs.du.edu
Time/Date: 2:20 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Stefan Solo

Has anyone ever heard a bass solo from Stefan?

Just Curious


Posted By: toolemd@duc.auburn.edu
Time/Date: 3:34 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: greeen acres is the place fer me :)

speaking of insignificant minischool details
have you ever heard that little whisper in 34 on uttad?

oh well, all the talk in the world can't make a pile of manure
smell good.....but if you plant lots of flowers around that manure
it works out great for both sides.  :)

happy birthday if it's your birthday today


sunflowers and bean sprouts
 :) farmer toole


Posted By: KevTad@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:33 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: New Orleans

Hey, this is my first post in a couple of months.  I just talked my roomates
into taking a road trip to see dmb in new orleans on Febuary 17.  i was
wondering if any of you were from the area or could give me some info on how
to get tickets or where the house of blues is located.  
thanks, 
Kevin


Posted By: thephal@email.unc.edu
Time/Date: 9:40 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Official de-lurk, etc.

Hello friends!  I've been just kinda hanging out here for several months 
& was moved to speak today.

> Under the CD in the Under the Table and Dreaming CD case, there is a picture of
> Dave (?) and kid and the phrase "In memory of Anne."  Who is Anne?  Wife? 
> Someone dead?  Thanks!
> Bryan

I think Anne was his sister, as was discussed here some time ago.  The 
kid in his arms is Anne's.  Yes, Anne's dead.  Sorry I don't have more 
info; I'm sure someone does.

> Steve
> whose body is in lingo because its January 12 and its 70 degrees in Ohio
                   ^^^^^

This must be very interesting.  A new twist on nonverbal communication!

> 
> 
> if someone knows i would be really grateful if they could send me tour 
> dates for phish's spring tour. i don't care if they are confirmed or just 
> rumoured. only east coast would be even better. thanks a lot
> 						johnfro
> 

Unless I'm very (happily) mistaken, there is no Phish spring tour this 
year.  I believe the boys are planning on playing in the summer though.

 ========================================================================
|Stephen Brooks                        Crackerjack Bibliographic Searcher|
|        "_Love_ is how we call our ignorance of what whips us."         |
|                   --John Barth, "Night-sea Journey"                    |
 ========================================================================


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 10:20 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: correction on unsubscribing

the gracious goddess of goodly goings on says:
>
>to ever so graciously unsubscribe yourself from
>this net for which you have so much disdain..
>you simply send mail to:
>listproc@moose.uvm.edu
>and say
>unsubscribe minarets

and i just wanted to let people know that the word "unsubscribe"
tends to get people banging on our door going "why the ***K can't
i unsubscribe?????"

i suggest the abbreviation "unsub" or the word "signoff"

k?


also, wade, if your going to say don't bitch, then don't bitch.

what you consider "shit" today is from the point of view of having
seen them three years ago.  alot of people love them for what they
are today and may never even get to hear what you think is gone
with the wind.  if you were at lexington and say "shit," i hardly
understand your logic.  if you were at february 22, '93, and say
"shit," you have no logic.  point being that your comment is what
we are all trying to avoid on minarets.net.


____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
i'm going to pearl jam, i'm going  \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
to pearl jam, nyah, nyah, nyah      \____________________________________


Posted By: tpalvino@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 11:26 AM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: why i think tim should be in DMB


Posted By: messierb@ucsub.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 12:17 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Help My Tree!

NOOOOOOOO!  It seems that the Wait tree I set up is starting to fall 
apart!  Please, please don't let this happen.  I am still waiting for my 
seed (DAN!?!) so there is nothing I can do at the moment.  Now reports of 
an upperlevel branch going away soon?  Please contact me if you are 
involved in this.  Also if you have given up on this tree and abandoned 
your kids, either don't or get in touch with me.  I am praying to see my 
seed in the mail today!

Peace & Out...

Japhy

Listen to Phish, walk around and sleep alot.


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 12:40 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: what's the point?

>
>Im just sick of seeing Dave and co have to play concerts and
>*PERFORM* every night, as opposed to just going out, having a
>good time, and if someone fucks up a song, then hell, there's

much crap about "how this band was so much better when i had them
all to myself" deleted because it's been heard on every listserv
in the country over 69 million times (on each listserv, that is).

>remember what that show was like when I saw them play it...and
>get lot within the keyboards in Cry Freedom or the maniacal
>Violin in the Blue Water Baboon Farm...

this gets the "i'd rather be on phish.net" award for the week ending
1-14-95.  you definitely weren't at lexington, which was 11-9-94 in
case you don't know.  TWO months ago.  where dave virtually butchered
the second verse to jimi-thing.  where dave band brought out not one,
but two new songs, the second of which was written THAT DAY.  where
dave stood in front of a crowd of 5-6000 people and told them all
specifically that they were scaring him "shitless."  personally, i'd
say your so bummed that the crowds are getting so big that you're 
losing touch with the fact that the band _is_ getting on stage and
having a good time.  not just "performing"  (context?).

now, to finish this off, i'd have to say that to any and all people
listening that in your journies through the internet and through
life, don't bitch when something you appreciate grows beyond your
expectations.  eventually your either going to start a flame war
(argument) or some holier-than-thou asshole such as myself is going
to try and put you in your place (or both).  

if you don't like what dave band is doing now,  don't listen to it.

if you don't like what dave band did then (which i suspect is highly
likely [in fact, i know it is]), don't listen to it.

differences of opinion are know reason to call something "shit," unless
emotional responses are explicitly desired, so:::::



***************************GROUP HUG********************************


there, now we all feel better, eh?

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 12:48 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: stefan the bassmaster

>
>Has anyone ever heard a bass solo from Stefan?
>
>Just Curious

actually, in the pre-r2t days, stefan used play around during the part
where tim reynolds appears with a solo i'll back you up.  gave it a really
wild feel.  almost any pre-november 93 tape with i'll back you up would
have such a creation.  

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: miah@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 1:09 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Some Questions

I have two questions to ask you guys.  So if you can, please help me in my
time of need....

1)  I have a Dave and Tim show (thanks Scott) that I need IDed (Date
&place).  This is the setlist:
Satellite
Typical
Recently
OSW
Minarets
Granny
Warehouse
BOWA
Pay For...
Set2-A female voice anounces that she plays Dave on her folk radio show
twice a week and I think she says that they are at the Prizm(?).
Nancies
I'll Back U Up
Lie in Our Graves
(Dave counts how many songs he has sung in set2 so far)
Ants
Jane
Stream
Help Myself

*You're my Insanity is somewhere in hereas well..If you need more info
(what Dave says) please let me know & I'll listen to it with pen & Paper. 

Any Info. would be appreciated

2)I just got the 6.14.94 Jambay show that was treed on this net (thanks
Joe...Vince you'll be getting yours soon) at the Fox Theatre in Boulder CO.
I don't have is the set list.  Could someone help me out?

For everyone that I owe tapes to (Will Foy, Scott Frazier, Big Head C,
Vince, et al)....I'm sitting in my room all Sat. & Sun.taping ... Your
tapes will be on the way first thing Monday.

Otherwise...if anyone wants to trade I've got @20 hrs DMB, some Phish, FJB,
Everything, Jambay, BT, BHTM, Samples etc....etc.  Drop me a line anytime;
I'm always game.

If you are still reading my rambling message and you are a newbie, I have
an offer for you...the first five (please don't have more than one or 2
tapes...be honest) that reply to this message I'll provide (after I OK it
and you send me 2 tapes with a SASE) a crispy copy of the 1.29.94 Dave and
Tim Reynolds show (thanks Bri). & I'll post a cutoff to the net when I'm
done and I'll reply to you if you've made the cutoff or not.

                                                Later,
                         
                               miah@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Jeremiah VanHecke)


##############################################################################

                "Only dead fish swim with the stream."  
                                                -Ralph Waldo Emerson

##############################################################################

        Jeremiah Van Hecke
        Bobb Hall #218
        2305 Sheridan Rd.
        Evanston, IL 60201
        (708)332-5193


Posted By: wandres@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
Time/Date: 1:15 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: New Orleans

> 
> Hey, this is my first post in a couple of months.  I just talked my roomates
> into taking a road trip to see dmb in new orleans on Febuary 17.  i was
> wondering if any of you were from the area or could give me some info on how
> to get tickets or where the house of blues is located.  
> thanks, 
> Kevin
> 
> 

NEW ORLEANS IS SOLD OUT.   It took 2 days without anything but word of mouth.

Sorry!  I dont even have tickets!  Sucks.
Victor
wandres@tulane.edu


Posted By: marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu
Time/Date: 1:39 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: I see the Light...

beautiful beautiful day...lingering glances and a slowing of the step, warm
breezes and a still damp ground helps one remember the promises of rainbows
and joy of loving all life offers.  Thought about running around in the
park sans clothing, but couldn't find a dry place to stash my undies.

Yes, so thank you for all the gentle nudges from the wiser kind yesterday,
someone I think suggested a cessation of the tears, and so i have taken up
with a unique mutation of tribal stomping that looks pretty silly and an
aweful lot of fun... but it was Tony who finally woke me up...with big bear
hugs and gentle chastising as warm and soothing as spring rain and as
effective as Chinese water torcher...i've glimsed how spoiled I was...and
so, recanting with the zealotry of a convert...

I've got an offer...come one come all...if you haven't got it, this is as
good a chance as I can offer...

12/31/93 Marriott, set I,II for the first 10 people who tell me they want
it.  I'd prefer a common subject like Gimme NYE'93 so I can keep requests
straight.
  Quality is A, A- in my book, but I've learned that we all grade
differently, so please no flames from those not satisfied...;-)

"eat drink and be merry fo tomorrow we die..."
marianne
-----------------------------------
delivered by the ILTnet gateway


Posted By: robersl3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 1:49 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Welcome to the 90's

Hello.

I know we're trying to keep this as strictly Dave stuff, but..

Edwin McCain is coming to Ziggy's in Winston-Salem, N.C. on Feb.1

I'm looking for any bootlegs of Edwin McCain's so if anybody can help me 
out let me know directly.
Address:robersl3@wfu.edu (that is an L not a one)

Keep listening.

Snow


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 2:23 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging

>Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 00:47:25 -0500
>From: MR FACE <wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu>
>To: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu, 
>    Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
>Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging
>
>On Jan 12, 20:17, ericw wrote:
>> Subject: Re: Dark clouds hanging
>> 
>> >Still no takers on skinny dipping...
>> >M
>> >
>> >Oh BTW, I do not agree that Dave is playing SHIT nowadays, nope not a very
>> >accurate adjective at all, but If you wanna try and convince me by sending
>> >some of your great quality old stuff I'd be glad to send you the new tapes
>> >I got last night ;-).
>> >
>> you tell em' marianne, i agree with your indignancy, hey wade why don't you 
>> trade your gems for aluminum siding ;-  i love nyc irony...eric
>> -- End of excerpt from ericw <erw@medinfo.rochester.edu>
>
>
>
>Im just sick of seeing Dave and co have to play concerts and
>* Blue Water Baboon Farm...
>
>
>Anyone care to join me???
>
>
>Wade
>
ok ok i agree that sometimes the teenyboppers and good ol' boys get frustrating 
at shows, and i don't like getting kicked in the face or crushed in a sardine 
frat can either but i have to admit that when i first heard dave, on a poor 
recording in some tape player, drunk car ride, 1993 summer, that i couldn't see 
the light, genius, radiance of the music....it was only when i saw them live 
irving plaza nyc, that made me see them again, and again , and again, etc. and 
buy their mu sic and collect boots, and turn on everyone in the free world to 
dave....now i see the beauty even on scratchy-go-lucky worn down moth-eaten 
tapes...but it took a stompin, groovin, movin' kaleidoscope of people whirling 
and rockin, and being for me to see....see?  so wade i commiserate with the crap 
that you and i had to endure say in d.c. when fuckheads screamed through 
christmas song...pleading bovine adagios for "daveeeee"  but hey i love paying 
money for shows,,,i am a sucker...hooked, smitten, can't get enough...kill 
me....oh well enough melodrama...peace, deal.   eric
>
>PS--Can I have one of your fish postcards???


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 2:42 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: specialme?hah

hey marianne

a few things,  i thought i was special---but now i see that fish 
postcards get sent everywhere...hmmmm   i am not  special....this 
hurts again....secondly, you call..yes call me last night to play 
dave on my machine and gloat...yes gloat that you now possess a boot 
from bender....i was there....yes with you....you suck......lastly, 
since you bitched that the recording (maybe this recording) was akin 
to listening to dave through starkist tuna can...tinny like your 
soul ;- or whatever that fuckin irony symbol is..and now again 
lastly....some redundancy problem here, i hear you have over 20 
boots....you skimmed three for me....hmmm now i know for sure that 
indeed you don't love me, never  have, and in your own words, 
probably never will....so i sit in pooling desperation, watching 
perspiration beads run down my sinewy sides, wondering if i can ever 
visit again and look upon you with trust....i am alas 
salami....sorry palindrome there...bored.....my guitar skills are 
building and when i am famous and touring, callused hands dextrous, 
signing autographs for screaming nancies, i will not remember your 
last name, or your brother,,, well actually how can i forget your 
brother...are we there   yet????   pow!   so if you are only going 
to gloat, don't call....even the tinny sounds of seek up jam crazy 
wailing....punctuated with guitar chords, violin slanting crazily at 
angles only i can fathom.....i can't stand it....love, in an 
abstract way, eric


Posted By: rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com
Time/Date: 2:50 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: I forget what we were talking about

Hello Boys & Girls,

I have a question,
In the FAQ file, it mentions what everyone in the band was doing musically
before the DMB was formed. That is, everyone except Dave. So, here's my
question - does anyone know if and which band Dave was in before
this one? Do any tapes exist of Dave pre-DMB?

Also, while I'm here - I've been having these random thoughts about how big 
this band could get. So I've come up with a little list. Here goes:

Will the DMB ever get so big that:

1. Casio markets the Dave Matthews Band calculator? 
    (only gives two results - 34 and 36)

2. They get invited to the White House and Bill sits in for Leroi?
     ("I thought by now you'd be the President")

3. I'll turn on the Galavision and see the the WWYS video
    dubbed in Spanish? (Que Decias Tu?)

4. They open a "Day After Halloween" costume shop, where
    people go in to ask "Well, could I have been..."?

I know there's enough corn in these jokes to feed a small village, but hopefully
someone out there found it funny :)

Gavin


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:53 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: Stefan Solo

The best song to find stephans prominence is a song on 10/27/92 at Trax.
Dave says right before it "Stpehan's tune?" to the band (you have to 
crank it to hear it)
and its an incerdible jam biult around stephans bass work...

its on the raritites tape that I am almost finished with..and will be 
treed soon....

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|P.O.Box 322				Coming Soon! Quote of the Day	|
|Lexington, Va. 24450							|
|4109 Park Ave								|
|Richmond, Va. 23221							|
| BoofyWeb  http://liberty.uc.wlu.edu/~cbuford/Boofy.html		|
|v4.4	cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu						|
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 2:54 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: why i think tim should be in DMB

>From what I have heard through this net and through the proverbial 
grapevine is that Tim is content with his own music scene and his band TR3.

Shit..if I could play like Tim i'd be content with anything.....

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|P.O.Box 322				Coming Soon! Quote of the Day	|
|Lexington, Va. 24450							|
|4109 Park Ave								|
|Richmond, Va. 23221							|
| BoofyWeb  http://liberty.uc.wlu.edu/~cbuford/Boofy.html		|
|v4.4	cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu						|
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


Posted By: sam9q@avery.med.virginia.edu
Time/Date: 3:19 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: just the faqs

could someone please send me the faqs file, or better yet
directions on how to digestify minarets?
thanks
for some reason i can't get to it.

scott


Posted By: swallis@acpub.duke.edu
Time/Date: 3:39 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: getting bigger

	Just to let people know how big dmb has become, over the recent 
holiday break I heard WWYS on the radio on the beach in Honolulu.  I was 
totally shocked.  Then today I opened my BMG catalog and there is UTTAD 
in the new bands section with BHT.  Whether people like it or not, dmb 
has arrived.
						-Simeon


Posted By: mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Time/Date: 3:39 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: That guy is flaming

I thought that I was the only person that used the phrase "poopie head"

wierd.


Posted By: miah@merle.acns.nwu.edu
Time/Date: 3:45 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Offer Closed. Still ?s

Thanks for responding to my Dave and Tim offer everybody, but I'm gonna
have to cut it off now. If you posted B4 the time this message is posted,
you're almost definately good 2 go.  I'll be getting a hold of you in the
next few days for specs.

****I still would love it if someone would answer those ?s for me that I
posted earlier::::

1)  I have a Dave and Tim show (thanks Scott) that I need IDed (Date
&place).  (Andy<thanks> thinks it's 4.22.93, but it not sure):This is the
setlist:

Satellite/Typical/Recently/OSW/Minarets/Granny/Warehouse/BOWA/Pay For...

Set2-A female voice anounces that she plays Dave on her folk radio show
twice a week and I think she says that they are at the Prizm(?).
Nancies/I'll Back U Up/Lie in Our Graves/
(Dave counts how many songs he has sung in set2 so far)
Ants/Jane/Stream/Help Myself

*You're my Insanity is somewhere in hereas well..If you need more info
(what Dave says) please let me know & I'll listen to it with pen & Paper. 

Any Info. would be appreciated

2)I just got the 6.14.94 Jambay show that was treed on this net (thanks
Joe...Vince you'll be getting yours soon) at the Fox Theatre in Boulder CO.
I don't have is the set list.  Could someone help me out?

For everyone that I owe tapes to (Will Foy, Scott Frazier, Big Head C,
Vince, et al)....I'm sitting in my room all Sat. & Sun.taping ... Your
tapes will be on the way first thing Monday.

Otherwise...if anyone wants to trade I've got @20 hrs DMB, some Phish, FJB,
Everything, Jambay, BT, BHTM, Samples etc....etc.  Drop me a line anytime;
I'm always game.

                                later,
                         
                               miah@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Jeremiah VanHecke)


##############################################################################

                "Only dead fish swim with the stream."  
                                                -Ralph Waldo Emerson

##############################################################################

        Jeremiah Van Hecke
        Bobb Hall #218
        2305 Sheridan Rd.
        Evanston, IL 60201
        (708)332-5193


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 3:54 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: I forget what we were talking about

>Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 14:58:21 -0500
>Reply-To: rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com
>From: Gavin Leo-Rhynie <rhynig@aron01.jany.gs.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
>Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: I forget what we were talking about
>
>Hello Boys & Girls,
>
>I have a question,
>In the FAQ file, it mentions what everyone in the band was doing musically
>before the DMB was formed. That is, everyone except Dave. So, here's my
>question - does anyone know if and which band Dave was in before
>this one? Do any tapes exist of Dave pre-DMB?
>
>Also, while I'm here - I've been having these random thoughts about how 
big 
>this band could get. So I've come up with a little list. Here goes:
>
>Will the DMB ever get so big that:
>
>1. Casio markets the Dave Matthews Band calculator? 
>    (only gives two results - 34 and 36)
>
>2. They get invited to the White House and Bill sits in for Leroi?
>     ("I thought by now you'd be the President")
>
>3. I'll turn on the Galavision and see the the WWYS video
>    dubbed in Spanish? (Que Decias Tu?)
>
>4. They open a "Day After Halloween" costume shop, where
>    people go in to ask "Well, could I have been..."?
>
>I know there's enough corn in these jokes to feed a small village, but 
>hopefully
>someone out there found it funny :)
>
>Gavin

hey vino, (gavin) don't quit your day job, funnyman, whooo, i laughed so 
hard that my professors heard my clamorous roar and demanded to see the 
message, and then they laughed so hard, (all of them being dave fanatics) 
that they cancelled class....no biochem, no histo, it was great...thanks 
vino....i can't believe that big nyc execs pay you cash when all you do is 
sit around all day and crack funnies...clever vino, like fine wine,  
especially the dayafter halloween shop....heeheeheehee....christ my teeth 
are falling out...well gav...if any more scintillatingly comic urges come 
over you, be sure to parcel them out with great rapidity because we love 
that jamaican sense o humor....peace. eric  you know i love you man....

live a full life.


Posted By: lmorgan@uclink.berkeley.edu
Time/Date: 4:13 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: sigh

'positive vibrations yeah'
 
><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< Joe & Laura ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< ><> <><


Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 4:30 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: NYE '94 TREE!!!

Hey there ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls-
	
	Do you know what time it is?  That's right - time to tree the lovely 
copy of the recent New Year's Show that I just received in the mail.  
Anyone interested in becoming a part of this tree, just follow the 
directions given below and hopefully we will all soon have nice tapes 
to listen to.

	Please fill out the following form and send it back to me with the
subject either Branch or leaf, obviously depending on what suits your
pleasure - to make tapes for others or to just hang loose and float in the
proverbial breezes of musical goodness.  PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP TO BE A BRANCH
IF YOU AREN'T READY TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO YOUR LEAVES.  I'd also like to ask
those who have not yet read the FAQ on such matters to please do so before
plunging head first into this tree.  Thanks-
	The deadline for this form is Sunday, Jan 15, 1995 at MIDNIGHT.

Name:
Postal Address:


Email to:
If Branch, how many copies are you willing to make?:
"    "   , briefly describe your taping equipment:


If you seek other than an analog copy, please note that here:


Comments, anecdotes, favorite quotes, etc...:



	With that done, I'd like to thank Bill Lakenan, who is the
ever-generous seed creator for this fun-loving tree - HEY, who says it can't
be fun-loving???  I'll post the tree structure within a couple of days after
Sunday's Deadline - so keep your eyes peeled and we'll get this done quickly
and painlessly.  Thanks again and as always - Have a good day!!! 

				-Steve

P.S.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
********************************************************************************
Respond to this		Steve Seremeth '96			
   Address------------->sseremet@emba.uvm.edu			-Peace   
			sseremet@moose.uvm.edu				
			The University of Vermont
********************************************************************************


Posted By: STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU
Time/Date: 4:54 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: dmb in bmg ain't no big thing...

>	Just to let people know how big dmb has become, over the recent 
>holiday break I heard WWYS on the radio on the beach in Honolulu.  I was 
>totally shocked.  Then today I opened my BMG catalog and there is UTTAD 
>in the new bands section with BHT.  Whether people like it or not, dmb 
>has arrived.
>						-Simeon

this has been mentioned a couple of times.  but it's really not that much
of a sign of their imminent success.  bmg makes (as in recorded, produced,
pressed, and sold/sells) under the table and dreaming.  seems logical
they would put it in they're mail order catalog.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ 
  to possess...plain common sense."  \        dave matthews band 
        --immanuel kant               \      lyrics extraordinaire
__________________________________     \_________________________________
                                  \             rick thompson
                                   \    <stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu>
                                    \____________________________________


Posted By: peterke3@wfu.edu
Time/Date: 6:11 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: hey

"rhynig@anon01.jany.gs.com"
	Whoever this is, i have your address screwed up and cant get 
those monster lyrics to you- please re e mail me! Thanks for the space all,
Kristin


Posted By: glmillington@ucdavis.edu
Time/Date: 6:45 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: Trading

I am a new subcriber but I have been into the band for quite along time. 
Since I live in California it was difficult to obtain the first copy of 
2things. Since that day I have been advidly searching for everything DMB 
has put out. If anyone is interested in trading live  DMB I have several 
Counting Crows shows with excellent quality. Let me know ASAP.

			Thanx:
					Mill


Posted By: grayp@pinn.net
Time/Date: 9:27 PM Friday, January 13, 1995
Subject: Re: jambay 6-14-94

there have been many questions regarding the setlist to the jambay 
6-14-93 show that i treed.
the masters that i got did not have a correct setlist and i have all 
intentions of figuring one out (i'm sure i can't name all the songs), but 
i have been short on time.
i'll do my best to figure it out this weekend and post it as soon as i do.

sorry for the day, but enjoy the music.

gray


--
It's ok to close your eyes, as long as you can still see the sun


Posted By: SOFIST@delphi.com
Time/Date: 12:57 AM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 412

Actually, he played they played BOWA at the show I went in to in San Jauan, it just seems likeall the playlitssts I seeaylists I see are missing it.  

OH, about the Jimi THinkg single, there ...it is actually I a single for What Would You Say? and Jimi THing is the B side.  IFrankly , I dont understand that, but what
does a scrub like me know.  They were handing them out like wildfire at the
Phish show in L.A. a couple waeaks eks ago.  Got my hands on one.  SOunds like
Dave to me.  It has the email adress for Mdress for Miniarets.  Thanks on the back cover. Thats
how I got hooked up with y'all.  Does this matter?  Chirst...rist!.....

Mike
"Too much Nietszhche make s for a bad stomach."


Posted By: USXE28B@prodigy.com
Time/Date: 1:29 AM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: I'm back

I know that everyone will be glad to know I talked my way
back on the net.  thought you'd like to know.

clarke


Posted By: vastolj@alleg.EDU
Time/Date: 11:41 AM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: The Celestine Prophecy

See if you can fit into your schedule to go buy and read "The Celestine  
Prophecy" by James Redfield...the green book at your local bookstore....no  
matter how much you buy into it, totally, partially, or very little, i think  
it will make all a better person, one way or another

okay off my soapbox

on my way,
joe

p.s. thanks for that little tip clare emily, we have to get back on "talk"  
soon.  oh yeah, and clare, you can throw that book into my green category as  
well...


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 11:58 AM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Re: Stefan Solo

didja like your treats? huh? huh?

hugs and kisses...

*******************************************************************************
'yeah i know this life's got a lot to give. but my childhood is gone, and i'm 
 not afraid of dying... i'm gonna grab this world by the horns, and then i'll
  leave... '           -solitude... edwin mccain band...
		                                        
                  cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu
Time/Date: 12:24 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: yikes i am a geek kill me i need nineichnails!

sorry for that last bit o personal mail toothe net..
i dropped off 
some rice krispie treats
to sir boofy
yesterday............
on me way back to school...

why do i have classes spread out so fucked up?!?!?

hee hee my roommate is trying to figure out irc
and some guy is trying to pick her up
and its' her first tim eusing that thing
and she's losing her mind..
he ehee
this is SO funny!!

its' like the muppets!@!! pigs in space..
he ehee
oh god. i need coffee..
its' tpooo early fo rme..


*******************************************************************************
'yeah i know this life's got a lot to give. but my childhood is gone, and i'm 
 not afraid of dying... i'm gonna grab this world by the horns, and then i'll
  leave... '           -solitude... edwin mccain band...
		                                        
                  cecliff@vt.edu / cliffordc@urvax.urich.edu  
*******************************************************************************


Posted By: NebuIous@aol.com
Time/Date: 1:20 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Re: confusion about tix

marianne@mail.ilt.columbia.edu (Marianne Bakia) says:

>And here is the information I have for the New York City shows:
>NY ticketmaster:  212-377-7171.
>Date of Sale: Jan 19, Thursday.
>No limit on # of Tix.

Hmmm... the people at Roseland said the 18th.

> I was told by "Tony" at Ticketmaster that tickets were not going to be
>sold at Roseland or Irving Plaza.  Irving says they have no information til

well this is pretty much bullshit, honestly.  first of all, would it not be a
bit insane if a show AT roseland was not sold AT roseland????  ticketmaster
doesn't know shit... they want their service sharge, and that's all they
want...


boo boo boo. i want to see dave testifying next to eddie vedder heh heh...

ben

just another memo from the cellar,

     ************************************************************************
    *   "she said it's time i open my eyes           *   ben sterling      *
   *    don't be afraid to open your eyes           *  nebuious@aol.com   *
  *             maybe she's right."                *     new york, ny    * 
 *                 -tori amos                     *                     *
************************************************************************


Posted By: sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU
Time/Date: 1:32 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: NYE '94 TREE!!! (fwd)

Hi everybody-
	Sorry to post this again, but I want to give a chance for people 
who didn't see this yesterday to be a part of this tree.  Take care-

			Steve

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 1995 16:30:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen J. Seremeth <sseremet@emba.uvm.edu>
To: Minarets <minarets@moose.uvm.edu>
Subject: NYE '94 TREE!!!

Hey there ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls-
	
	Do you know what time it is?  That's right - time to tree the lovely 
copy of the recent New Year's Show that I just received in the mail.  
Anyone interested in becoming a part of this tree, just follow the 
directions given below and hopefully we will all soon have nice tapes 
to listen to.

	Please fill out the following form and send it back to me with the
subject either Branch or leaf, obviously depending on what suits your
pleasure - to make tapes for others or to just hang loose and float in the
proverbial breezes of musical goodness.  PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP TO BE A BRANCH
IF YOU AREN'T READY TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO YOUR LEAVES.  I'd also like to ask
those who have not yet read the FAQ on such matters to please do so before
plunging head first into this tree.  Thanks-
	The deadline for this form is Sunday, Jan 15, 1995 at MIDNIGHT.

Name:
Postal Address:


Email to:
If Branch, how many copies are you willing to make?:
"    "   , briefly describe your taping equipment:


If you seek other than an analog copy, please note that here:


Comments, anecdotes, favorite quotes, etc...:



	With that done, I'd like to thank Bill Lakenan, who is the
ever-generous seed creator for this fun-loving tree - HEY, who says it can't
be fun-loving???  I'll post the tree structure within a couple of days after
Sunday's Deadline - so keep your eyes peeled and we'll get this done quickly
and painlessly.  Thanks again and as always - Have a good day!!! 

				-Steve

P.S.  If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
********************************************************************************
Respond to this		Steve Seremeth '96			
   Address------------->sseremet@emba.uvm.edu			-Peace   
			sseremet@moose.uvm.edu				
			The University of Vermont
********************************************************************************


Posted By: SOFIST@delphi.com
Time/Date: 2:04 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Re: MINARETS digest 4

/


Posted By: acox@s850.mwc.edu
Time/Date: 2:45 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: True Reflections trans.

I was looking through the chords file yesterday and noticed there was no 
True Reflections, so to help complete that file I tried to figure it 
out. I was using old copies of the song, so Peter often made it hard hear 
what Dave was playing, so the accuracy may be off. 

Just play with the song and find an arrangement to your liking...

Have a blast
Andrew



True Reflections
----------------

       hammer on = >      slide = /

E-----0---------------------0---------------------0---------------------0-----
B-----5-----5---------------5-----5---------------5-----5---------------5-----
G-----6-----6>7-----4/6--0--6-----6>7-----4/6--0--6-----6>7-----4/6--0--6-----
D-----7-----7-------5/7--0--7-----7-------5/7--0--7-----7-------5/7--0--7-----
A-----0--0--0----0----------0--0--0----0----------0--0--0----0----------0-----
E-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Play this through two times, then through the first verse.

   Chorus:
    G                 D          A                   E             G
      Find some inspiration....    it's down deep inside of you

    G                D           A
      Amend your situation....     your whole life is ahead of you...


The verses after the first chorus are played with an A, with variations 
on it, sometimes dropping to a G - 

      A             G
E-----0-------------0-------
B-----5-------------3-------
G-----6-------------4-------
D-----7-------------5-------
A-----0-------------0-------
E---------------------------

 
The final jam is in F and Am, tailing off with 'find some inspiration... 
it's down deep inside of you...'


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 4:13 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: did you ever notice...

Did you ever notice that line in Jimi Hendrix's song Castles Made of Sand,
where he says:

She drew her wheelchair to the edge of the shore,
And through her legs she smiled, "you won't hurt me no more",
But then a shight she'd never seen before made her jump and say,

"Look a golden winged ship is passin' my way...
 
And it really didn't have to stop,
It just kept on goin'...

I know it's kinda depressing, but I really like the line before this,

And she wished and prayed that she could stop livin'...
so she decided to die...

that just seems so powerful...


Anyway, anyone got any clever interpretation of the last two lines of the
first section that I put up there...I'm just curious about it...I know this
has nothing WHATSOEVER to do with DMB, but there are a few folks on the
net that I am sure can give me some creative insight...thanks.


BTW, did you ever notice that there are a lot of negative people in the
world.  I think the weather here in Atlanta has got me in some sort of 
depressed mood...but I have really noticed the negative aspects of several
folks around me who don't normally seem that negative...weird.

I'm not trying to down anyone, actually, I just want some jelly beans...
sadly though, I have no money...Oh, I wish I had some jelly beans...
what's a pooh to do without his honey?

I glad there is a group, albeit electronic, that consists of several
pretty cool folks who tend to look at life in a rather melancholy way...
all you guys are pretty cool...even the one's who are sometimes negative.

Claire, if you have any extra spoons, send em' my way (not all of them,
mind you...others need them, too).

Hey, guys, try to get your hands on a copy of "Life After God" by Douglas
Coupland...it's a really cool book...about life...and how we live it.
I just finished reading it...I can only say...WOW...pretty moving book.
D. Coupland is the guy who wrote the book Generation X that inspired the 
name of this generation that most of us belong to (according to the earlier
age survey).  He also wrote a pretty cool piece of fiction...Shampoo Planet
that I am about half way through...it's groovy, too.

Reading, 'riting, and debating on the topic of 'rithmatic...

Shug


Posted By: jcrother
Time/Date: 4:15 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: I Back....hopefully

After digging out of the holiday avalanche of email, I'm finally back in 
the driving seat.  I hope this will last.

So what this mean to you:
	a)    If you've been trying to get digestified, unsubscribed or 
                  refried, but have been experiencing trouble, contact me 
                    now.  
	Well, I'll leave it at that since I don't really know what's 
going on these days. My avanlance escape was due partly to the delete key 
and partly due to the unseasonal warm temps here in Vermont

alex crothers


Posted By: KARYME@aol.com
Time/Date: 4:55 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: New Years

Guys,  i must say,  new year's eve was a great show,  but about the same as
they all have been for the last year.  why would you pass around that show?
 does anyone have old/rare/vintage stuff,  I do.  that is still what i listen
to,  even though he has achieved greatness.   I do also understand that there
are many to whom dave matthews is new,   so I do apologise for that.  But for
all you non rookies,  don't you guys have better shows to be trading?  

Just a thought.   
For show trading 1 on 1.  E-Mail me.  I only want pre-1994 stuff!!
Peace,
T


Posted By: erw@medinfo.rochester.edu
Time/Date: 5:06 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: sorrysosorrytrytoforget

hey i guess i owe all y'all an apology, humblest pardons, because some 
upstanding member of this net let me know that a message or two (personal) went 
out to all.....hmmm...this was completely inadvertant, probably due to my 
faithless machine, and to my carelessness about cc's and m & m's and all that 
other confusing stuff that noone has explained to me...so i'll let you know that 
the message was not all that personal and most of the ravings and goings on were 
done with tongue planted firmly in cheek...i am not serious except when i 
am...and marianne knows this and so, all of those who suffered acute 
psychological and creepy/voyeur-like scarring from this message, i will be a 
doctor maybe someday, so i will prescribe many great pills for you and refer you 
to counseling absolutely free o charge...ok?    peace and swedish fish, eric


Posted By: gt0407c@prism.gatech.edu
Time/Date: 5:13 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Re: did you ever notice... (fwd)

On Sat, 14 Jan 1995 16:17:29 -0500 you said:
>I think the weather here in Atlanta has got me in some sort of
>depressed mood...
  referring to the lack of snow, and 75 degree weather?  hmmmm if so, dont
 come visit me today....same in alabama
>Oh, I wish I had some jelly beans...
>what's a pooh to do without his honey?
    but seriously....i thought pooh just transcended all
liklihoods for the reality he desired....shit, i dunno
go sell a cd you never listen to...mix some weird
flavours for meeeeee weeeee jellybellies...the little
red speckled ones and the dark other ones mmmmmmmmmmm

grab a mango snapple while you're at it....

and for the rest....'specially you ben.s......
i didnt make this clear enough, i dont think....

soo.....concerning the rare dave tree:  boofy is making this
thing on analogue tapes....you all know that right?

well, the reason DAT appears as a choice on the forms is because
someone wants to transfer the original to a DAT......or, at least,
someone _was_ going to do it...until that guy's dat player got thrown out of a
window at a party......sorry, he didnt go into any more detail than that....
but, so now, someone else has stepped up to take the job...

they want it on dat...soooo...  they get it on dat...
i just thought i'd mention it to anyone who just over-looked
the dat choice because they didnt want to say anything....
someone will do it....but im still working with the dat people
to figure out who....

and, thanks ben for pointing out to me that it was not explained sufficiently..
......and there is always a quiz....always
quizzes....

'''''''
 keith


Posted By: pdquinn@nyx10.cs.du.edu
Time/Date: 6:57 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Wanted Jackopierce

I'm looking for JackOPierce bootlegs for a present to my sister, I have 
fifty plus hours of dave tapes to choose from in return.


Posted By: cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu
Time/Date: 6:59 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Re: The Celestine Prophecy

This book is AWESOME!!!!!!

This and Kahil Gibran will reshape your life....

*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|Chris "Boofy" Buford  '96						|
|P.O.Box 322				Coming Soon! Quote of the Day	|
|Lexington, Va. 24450							|
|4109 Park Ave								|
|Richmond, Va. 23221							|
| BoofyWeb  http://liberty.uc.wlu.edu/~cbuford/Boofy.html		|
|v4.4	cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu						|
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*


Posted By: TSTORCH@flint.mines.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 7:32 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Re: Stefan Solos

Any one who wants to hear some recent Stefan solos should try to get a hold
of the 12/16/94 show in Houston (I'd like a copy myself if anyone has it yet-
Beth???).  He did the Tim Reynolds solo on "I'll Back you Up", I just read he used to do it prior to Tim (is that right?),  anyways it was pretty cool.

	see ya, Teresa


Posted By: TSTORCH@flint.mines.colorado.edu
Time/Date: 7:40 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: Dave's Dad

Hi again!

	Don't know if many people would be interested in this, but I found a 
book in my school library by Dave's dad, John Wauchope Matthews.  I had asked Dave at the Houston show if his dad was really a physicist.  He said he was and had worked in superconductivity.  The book I found is a collection of materials
science articles on epitaxial crystal growth.  ONe of the articles is by his dad.
I guess he worked at the IBM Watson Research Center in Yorktown.  It has some 
cool crystal micrographs that look similar to the background of the fire dancer
shirt- which Dave told me was a picture his dad had taken of cobalt and boron.

	Just some small Dave trivia to add to your lists-
		Teresa (yes I'm a physics geek, I admit) Storch


Posted By: KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Time/Date: 9:52 PM Saturday, January 14, 1995
Subject: tim the granny master

actually, this isnt about tim at all....

it's just the first thing that popped into my head
maybe 'cause im listening to a copy of it  :)-japhy...thanks

ok----here's my dave question....when exactly did
he change the name from _screaming from the minarets_
to _minarets_   ....now, i know it was b/w june of 1993, and
whenever r2t appeared upon our shelves, which was...what?
like, october...september of '93 something like that, right?

so when did the name change.....trivial info for the bored....

oh---and clare---just noticed you mailed to my other acct...
i'll get back to ya before we sled...

keith
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