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### LOST IN LEXINGTON

#### tmr3c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Mon Nov 7 21:44:32 1994

Does anyone have good directions to the Horse Center in
Lexington?  I am coming from Charlottesville, and I know 64 to
81, but after that I am lost.  HELP!
Also T.J. Palvino, if you are out there, please write.  I don't
need the UVA tape, I have made other arrangements.  I felt bad
asking you to do so many tapes.  I am hoping to get in touch with
you before the show at the Horse Center.  Thanks!!
Tonya


#### driver8@phy.duke.edu Mon Nov 7 23:14:27 1994

I got a kinda cool tape of a solo et al. dave show this summer...It's a
second generation tape and the sound quality is great!...

Now here's the catch...I'd like to have some
recodings of some obscure dave songs.  In particular,

- Angel from montgomery (prine)
- Drive In, Drive Out
- Help Myself
- Maker, the (Lanois)
- #36
- So much to say
- And any others that you think I might like

I'll trade a limited number of people my solo et al. tape for these songs
but I'd really like to have some rarities.  The set list for my tape is
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random dave show (maybe november or december 92?)
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Quick Lay (Say Goodbye)
Ants Marching
Sattelite
What Would You Say
Jimmy Thing
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Solo
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Best of What's Around
Recently
Cry Freedom
Tripping Billies
Song That Jane Likes
I'll Back You Up
What Would You Say
Sattelite (After Her)
Lover Lay Down
One Sweet World
Typical Situaion
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oddities
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What Would You Say (reprise)
Ants Marching (crazy violins)
Dancing with Nancies (2nd time played live)

If you want to trade I'll copy this on a 90 min TDK SA90 tape and if
you would do the same, we can trade addresses. Write and tell me what you
think.

ps - if anyone might be interested in hearing my band's demo when it's
done so as to give me some feedback I'd greatly appreciate it.

"I promise no Dave covers"

Sean


#### CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu Mon Nov 7 23:40:45 1994



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random dave show (maybe november or december 92?)
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Quick Lay (Say Goodbye)
Ants Marching
Sattelite
What Would You Say
Jimmy Thing
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sean.. .if this is the set for the 'random dave show nov/dec 92' then
you've got the guess of the date wrong. (sorry i can't say tha in a
kinder way)...

(QL&) say goodbye wan't arount until late 93 (at least under the name to
which we refer to it at that time). but the beginnings (evolutionary
beginnings) of that song began in the summer of 93. june-ish....
regardless...
either way.. its' not a 92 tape.

hugs to all.. love and brilliant light,
clare emily

'no one dared no one cared to tell me where the pretty girls are, those
demi-gods with their NINE-INCH-NAILS little facist panties tucked inside
the heart of every girl....'


#### driver8@phy.duke.edu Tue Nov 8 01:43:49 1994


Okay, Okay, the tape isn't from '92...it's funny how 2s and 3s get
confused when you've just finished an engineering problem set...sorry,
the tape is from november/december '93!

i apologize for the typo...



### Irving Plaza setlist and review

#### AHENNE@drew.edu Tue Nov 8 09:37:52 1994



Hey everyone,

11-7-94 Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds at Irving Plaza, NYC

First of all, I have to say that I was really bothered by the crowd at
this show.  They were LOUD!  Dave came out to sing harmony on one of
Shannon's songs, and the woman next to me screamed every time he opened
his mouth.  People yelled between every song and over the top of Tim's
their fellow audience members, they should at least respect the
performers.  But enough whining...

Aside from the irritating crowd, the show was incredible.  The first set
was fairly predictable, good strong renditions of the songs, but nothing
really overwhelming.  But the second set....Minarets was hot, with Dave
doing some freaky vocal effects and Tim spinning out strange
Arabic-sounding lines.  Jimi Thing was long and sweet, Tim played a very
bluesy solo that seemed very out of character for him, but cool.  The big
that was the one song they definitely wouldn't play, because it just
didn't fit the solo format.  Just goes to show you.  It was interesting to
hear it done this way, without the sax/violin riff that defines the song
for me.  I kept expecting Tim to play the violin part, but he just
noodled around, although he added a very intense solo.  Correct me if I'm
wrong, but this is the first time Dave's done Ants in a solo show, yes?
Say Goodbye was beautiful, as always.  Two Step I didn't even recognize;
this was kind of a weak performance.  The crowd began shouting out
requests here; someone shouted for #36, so Dave agreed to play the
"edited" version.  This was very impressive, with Tim playing funky
basslines and Dave doing some sweet scat singing and vocal weirdness.  So
Much to Say, I thought they weren't playing this anymore?  I was glad to
hear it, anyway.  And finally, Watchtower.  I think the slow beginning
confused many people in the crowd, but they got into it.  I love how that
intro just builds anticipation until the fast part kicks in....Tim played
a long, quietly intense solo on this, a strange contrasts to the electric
shows I've heard, where's he's just over the top.  Towards the end, Dave
began quoting Stairway to Heaven; hey, it's the same chord progression.

Unfortunately, no soundboard patch was available, so it looks like the
only tapes that'll be around will be from the one and only audience taper
who bravely set up his mikes right in the middle of the frat boys.  It's a
shame, considering what a great show it was, and how damned irritating the
crowd was.  Still, I would love to get this on tape, so...anyone who comes
across a tape of this, I'd like it, regardless of sound quality.  I have



### Re: MINARETS digest 341

#### jk2z@kelvin.seas.virginia.edu Tue Nov 8 09:48:19 1994

In response to shaft's request,

cool.  I believe it is from May 1993, but have no evidence of
that.

"Is everybody doing okay? Is Everyone okay?  We've been trying for ages
to get the air fixed, but we don't use it here.  CAUSE IT'S JUST
NOT GOOD."  My thought it is around the summer.

worthless. I lost it however.  There was a pretty cool article
in the C'ville in the beginning of October.  It was like three
pages, with lots of cool pictures and stuff. I can't find that
one either, but I thought everyone would like to know.

"This song is called Tripping Hillbillies, It's about Virginia"



### Lexington Show

#### bseal@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Nov 8 10:02:45 1994

Any of you folks looking for a place to stay after the show get in touch
from the Horse Center and have some room (if you don't mind hard wood
floors).  It probably beats paying for a hotel room or driving back
somewhere all messed up.  There's going to be a lot of stuff going on at
W&L after the show so sticking around would probably be a lot of fun for
you out-of-townies.  I don't have that much space so first come first
serve.  Just let me know in some way shape or form that you're not a
serial killer or anything of that sort.

Britt


### Re: Irving Plaza setlist and review

#### axvann@minerva.cis.yale.edu Tue Nov 8 10:50:06 1994

A few notes on other Adam's setlist-

1. Not the first Bandless Ants Marching. Sorry.

2. They hadn't played So Much to Say in quite a while. A nice treat.

3. Dave did the same Stairway thing this summer in Watchtower, but he
forgot the words.

4. Personally, I didn't think the crowd was that bad. A little loud and
obnoxious, but they cheered almost as loudly for Say Goodbye as for Ants,
and several seemed to know what was up when Dave pulled out So Much to
Say. Much older and a little more restrained than DMB crowds of late.

5. More than one taper. tapers tend to share patches into mikes.
Wandering closer to the "sweet spot" where the tapers set up (always a
great place to hear a show), I noticed several DATs and accompanying
tapers. Tapes should be circulating.

Great venue. Too bad beer in NYC is $4 a can.  Top Permalink ### Re: Irving Plaza setlist and review #### bmking@mail.wm.edu Tue Nov 8 10:58:58 1994 that was the one song they definitely wouldn't play, because it just didn't fit the solo format. Just goes to show you. It was interesting to hear it done this way, without the sax/violin riff that defines the song for me. I kept expecting Tim to play the violin part, but he just noodled around, although he added a very intense solo. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first time Dave's done Ants in a solo show, yes? Just to let you know, I have a tape from 1/19/93 where dave opens with some solo stuff, including Ants.. if I remember, though, he does intro it with something to the effect of "well, I wouldn't normally do this.. but I will.. because I want to.. maniacal cackling" brett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brett Kingswell bmking@mail.wm.edu If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss bank. - Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"  Top Permalink ### tapes and stuff #### JAROUNDS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 8 11:31:39 1994 hey all. ok, here's my first plea. i saw dave open up for toad the wet sprocket at w&m about two years ago. i fell in love instantly, but being a naive little high school student i did not understand the bootleg scene. i got a tape of a tape of a bootleg and that was all my dave until r2t. so, now that i'm finally getting some real bootlegs (ok, so my boyfriend is doing all the work) i would love to trade for that w&m show. if anyone has the show i would love to hear from you. also, jeff (my busy man collecting bootlegs) offered the vail colorado show to traders. so, i'll tape it for any newbies. i'm not sure how big a response i'll get, but i'll try to take as many requests as i can. i'm sorry i forgot who said something about meeting before the va horse center show, but i would love to meet some of the faces of the names i've been reading for the past year. any suggestions of meeting places or times? i go to jmu, so i'm not too far from lexington, but i don't know the lexington area. :) jaime JAROUNDS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU  Top Permalink ### Irving Plaza Question. #### toolemd@duc.auburn.edu Tue Nov 8 12:34:07 1994  did any of his own songs. This past august at the Birchmere Tim did a couple, including 'mountain song'(correct title?) I am also interested in hearing about Shannon's set. Was 'Eleanor' as smooth as usual? Was Matt Tifford there on cello?  Top Permalink ### Previously on minarets.net...... #### cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Tue Nov 8 12:33:52 1994 Some more thoughts.. 1)Rick has previously stated that Rusted Root's debut is When I Woke, but alas, a previous disc exists, much in the idea of R2T (not live, but self produce with repeat songs on new disc). Its got 11 songs, four of which are also on When I Woke (but remixed) and is a solid effort also. I'm ready for the drum trip..... 2)More on horse Center. For Phish, the parking lot was way cool, tailgating etc. Its on a grass hill. I didn't see the usual veggie cookouts set up and such, but the county police deal with the horse center and were quite cool. At WSP I was late and everyone was inside. IMHO I would think beer type tailgating was fine, with other things slightly more discreet and maybe in a car,van, VW bus, etc. I would hesistate on bringing your gas stove, veggies and bead/necklace salesbooths, just cuz I didn't see and last time. Nitrous, its your call on that, I'm not gonna tell anyone to bring it and then get them busted. As always, use your noodle and think a bit before you do what you do. Directions are simple. There are signs on 81 that will tell you to take the 64 W exit and there are signs on the exit to tell you how to get there. It really ain't to hard. 3)Clare, being the first and foremost knight of all, I think I need to review applications also...... *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* |Chris "Boofy" Buford '96 | |cbuford@liberty.wlu.edu P.O.Box 322 | |Washington and Lee University Lexington, Va. 24450 | | | | "You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?" | | "No..." | | "A Royale with Cheese...." | | | | Ezekiel 25:17 | | | |v4.0 | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------*  Top Permalink ### irving plaza! #### JSLAGHT@drew.edu Tue Nov 8 12:40:37 1994  mail send  Top Permalink ### Irving Plaza! #### JSLAGHT@drew.edu Tue Nov 8 12:56:26 1994 Overall, an incredible show. Highlights were I'll Back You Up, two step, #36, christmas song, so much to say(my favorite dave tune), and an INCREDIBLE solo by Tim (called Streams?). behind me decided to begin singing ALL the songs ( including Back You Up) in dave-possessed voice. There was also some very large fellow who bullied his way up to the front and was muttering "granny" after every couple lines of Back You Up. as the performers. It really wasn't cool that I could hear people other than Dave singing a lot of the songs. Dave. I watched as the smoke crept through the blue light until it had surrounded him. His nostrils enlarged, his eyes cracked open (an emotional part of the song) and he smiled.  Top Permalink ### Re: Previously on minarets.net...... #### wmc8s@darwin.clas.virginia.edu Tue Nov 8 14:29:55 1994 I went to WSP at the Horsey Centre, and showed up boku early... There were quite a few people fumbling around with big honkin balloons...as well as one and two hitters...the cops said nothing. There was a LOT of beer tailgating... Have fun, tell me all about it (i wish i could go), and above all, DON'T GET CAUGHT DOING ANYTHING STOOPID... Peace, Wade  Top Permalink ### Title #### KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu Tue Nov 8 14:32:58 1994 "For those of you with clean crisp copies of the nantucket run from august, how many have noticed that Dave introduces help myself as none other than dangerous hours." titled "Desperate Hours" (with the exception of one show where he calls it Dangerous Hours) "Why is today a special day? Because it's not yesterday or tomorrow." As always, for your convenience smoking IS allowed in my message  Top Permalink ### has anyone out there figured out recently? #### sonfije0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Tue Nov 8 14:48:54 1994 Has anyone out there figured out recently? I know the intro, but cant do it from there. Im close, but before posting it to the chord file, i want other info. thanks, Justin Sonfield S.P.O. 183 735 University Avenue Sewanee, Tn 37383-1000 (615)-598-2190  Top Permalink ### Re: im getting worried here... #### flats@WPI.EDU Tue Nov 8 15:37:28 1994 Usually you do end up getting the tickets in the mail at the last minute but my tickets for the Irving Plaza show never made it. I called American Express and they gave me that confirmation number that usually gets written on some random piece of scrap paper that gets thrown away sometime later (as in my case) Then give ticket master a call, they'll connect you with customer service. Explain you haven't received the tickets in the mail. They gave me a lost ticket voucher confirmation number and said to give this number to the box office along with ID and the credit card that you bought the tickets with. Hope this works out. surprised that alot of the songs sounded better in the acoustic format. Still some were screaming for Boyd's touch. The first set opened with Recently and pretty much included all songs from the albums. There's no way I can produce Whats Around, Satelite, Tripping Billies, Dancing Ninies, and closed with Warehouse. The second set was much more spacey including Minarets, Typical Situation, Christmas Song, I'll Back You Up, Say Goodbye, Ants, a great jam by Tim Reynolds, a few songs I don't know because I have no live tapes (hint) and Watchtower to close. Show got out around 12:30 but I'm unsure of when it started because Shannon Worrell opened up first.  Top Permalink ### hey a little note.... #### RPPRISIN@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 8 17:31:54 1994 just thought some of you might like to know that John Lennon died today nov. 8th at 11:04.... keep him in mind thanks rich i once had a girl or should i say she once had me........  Top Permalink ### AAARRRGGHH!!!! #### AHENNE@drew.edu Tue Nov 8 18:09:43 1994  damn, i checked my mail yesterday--and i'd received twelve, count them, TWELVE packages of tapes, either trade stuff or blanks. i can't handle this! what was i thinking to have allowed things to get to this level? anyway, this can't continue. so, everyone, if i'm making tapes for you, please be patient. i'll get them to you, but a little later. if i told you two days, make it a week. i've been told by a wise man that i need to slow down, and i do believe he's right.  Top Permalink ### Re: Irving Plaza Question. #### grayp@pinn.net Tue Nov 8 18:14:03 1994  'mountain song'(correct title?) I believe this song is called 'You Are My Sanity' Stream is a TR song - think i saw that in the set list. Gray  Top Permalink ### freudian slip = appropriate title #### jjthomps@teton.Mines.Colorado.EDU Tue Nov 8 18:31:27 1994  some were screaming for Boyd's touch. The first set opened with Recently and pretty much included all songs from the albums. There's no way I can produce Whats Around, Satelite, Tripping Billies, Dancing Ninies, and closed with I know it was just a case of the brain moving faster than the fingers, but I like it as a description of some of the audience... "Could I have been... a dancing ninny?" BTW - I just got a tape from Liberty Hall, KS. DMB's first trip to Kansas, and I don't know the date. It came from a guy who did sound at Liberty Hall, but he didn't send the date. Just after R2T, like late Dec. early Jan '94? I don't have an old newsletter with any info. Any help would be appreciated. I'd give a portion of the set list but I don't think its really in circulation, so you might not find it in your collections. But LeRoi does a cool little Benny Hill Theme riff in Recently - that's the first time I've ever heard that (or noticed.) If you're interested - let me know 'bout trading. Take care, (of yourself -and your shoes - and your neighbor's shoes) Jason  Top Permalink ### doin' the chameleon prism dance... #### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 8 18:44:51 1994 yikes. me and cathy just wanna say, 'shhhhhhhhhh...' or all our good seats (stands.. whatever it is when we dance and jam and spin and live like children in our usual dmb sbd spot) will be trampled like buffaloo pastures. well, think about how termendously large the sbd area is at the horse center. there's enough room for a herd of small packiderm to dance back there. at least there was at phish, which sold out. hey.. do buffaloo's have pastures? on ecology.....this is a music net... i owe you a hug. *hug* *rmph* (oy. bear hug.;) racing turtles (turtles turtles and more turtles) doya think heathcliff will win? i while back i had this weird ideer pop into my head, and i keep forgetting to share... while listening to the studio warehouse, i somehow got this overwhelming urge to hear (now get this...) bagpipes. in certain places, they've managed to make boyd sound so ethereal that you just want to see a man in a kilt come trapesing (sp?) along. it sounds stupid, i know, but it's true. i want to hear a piper jam with dave band. (heelp, we hev a piper down, ay piper is down....) ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________  Top Permalink ### whoa, doggy, where's the meatloaf when i need it... #### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 8 18:57:41 1994 this is about the acoustic show. not meatloaf. as for ants marching at acoustic shows, dave and tim played it on 12-12-93. and tim really kicks out the ass on that solo near the end where boyd is usually playing the same note over and over and over and over again. as far as so much to say goes, you say "i thought _they_ didn't play it anymore," which is more or less right. i haven't heard of the whole band doing it this year. but dave and tim did that one at the aforementioned movie palace show. at that show (in c-ville), tim ripped it apart with some beautiful slide guitar playing that blows me away every time i hear it. (and over and over and over again.) ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________  Top Permalink ### disturbing images inspired by the #### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Tue Nov 8 19:04:36 1994 you know that really spacey period as you fall asleep where you aren't asleep and aren't awake and aren't really anything but one giant thought? you know, that period when you mind comes up with _REALLY_ fucked up things? no? well, i do, and last night, as i drifted through this lost time while listening to uttad, and as rhyme and reason floated gently through my hell turning inside out. right as dave started screaming. it was just too cool. and then i saw dave standing in the center of this involuted hades grinning, and then he turned inside out, and then the song started fading away, and i fell asleep. also, just how did an acoustic #36 sound? that must have rocked your world. and when i did dave play the tripping billies intro? i haven't heard of that happening in decades... ____________________________________ "it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________ __________________________________ \_________________________________  Top Permalink ### John Lennon R.I.P. #### PPLUSCHT@UA1VM.UA.EDU Tue Nov 8 19:08:29 1994 Correction to note that I saw posted earlier. John Lennon died on December 8th, 1980 not November 8th. We all still miss him, don't we? ....in my life.... Patrick  Top Permalink ### Tapes #### CGL5671@ACS.TAMU.EDU Tue Nov 8 19:29:33 1994 Hi, I'm new to taping. So if anyone is willing to send me their mailing address, I'll send them a blank and return postage.  Top Permalink ### home page #### PARISIGRE@urvax.urich.edu Tue Nov 8 19:41:06 1994 I apologize for missing it, but could someone post the home page location one more time. Thanks. See you in Lexington! Greg  Top Permalink ### Have an extra Lexington ticket #### dee3s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Tue Nov 8 20:25:13 1994 I know this show is not sold out but if anyone is in need of an extra and would rather not go out and buy their own I will gladly meet you at the horse center and give you my extra. Thanks, Dan Entin  Top Permalink ### Tim song title #### gsp2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Tue Nov 8 20:46:18 1994 mountain song (correct title?) usually mentions a mountain, etc. eating my breakfast."  Top Permalink ### Re: home page #### btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu Tue Nov 8 21:51:29 1994  I apologize for missing it, but could someone post the home page location one more time. Thanks. See you in Lexington! Greg Hey all. Renovations coming Friday morning! I'll announce then. -Ben  Top Permalink #### @mail.trincoll.edu:James.Evans@mail.trincoll.edu Tue Nov 8 22:52:42 1994 How do I end this thing? I need to get off this network, I can't handle the traffic that is on it.  Top Permalink ### New year's show #### KevTad@aol.com Tue Nov 8 23:36:54 1994 I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about Dave playing in Richmond on new year's eve. My brother told me about it and said that tickets were 52.50. If so when are tickets going on sale and what's included. Also, if anyone would like to trade let me know. -kevin  Top Permalink ### Re: Irving Plaza setlist and review #### NebuIous@aol.com Tue Nov 8 23:53:42 1994 Does anyone have an actual show length? I'm inclined to say that it was a good 2 and a half hours, but I certainly wasn't checking my watch every five minutes (well, I was during Shannen Worrell. Sorry, I just couldn't get into it except for the song about Athena or something. Huh huh. I feel like I'm commiting treason). By the way... after #36 we tried to get Dave to play Drive In Drive Out (we tried wade, we really really TRIED), but apparently someone else asked for So Much To Say. Oh, and SMTS wasn't really full. At least as far as I remember he never actually played the chorus, and repeated the verses and bridge several times until it seemed monotonous. But it's still a great tune, and I was extremely pleased to hear it. Tim's tune was fucking incredible. His solos in Billies, Minarets, and Jimi were brilliant. There were times he seemed to be noodling, but hey, no one is dead on every second, especially if your job is to basically play around Dave's steady rhythm. The crowd really wasn't that bad. I noticed them talking during 2 Step. I love the song, but it WAS a bit lazy last night. And of course Dave made the necessary comment about all the fun he had in Amsterdam. Ben (feelin stupid because clare had to point out my sig was wrong) just another memo from the cellar, ************************************************************************  Top Permalink ### random #### malachi@leland.Stanford.EDU Wed Nov 9 00:25:26 1994 I know it's a little late, but here's my favorite "could I": 1. What two things am I supposed to remember? 2. What's the story on Peter Greisler? Was he a full time member of DMB?  Top Permalink ### Lisner GW show #### jcdavis@wam.umd.edu Wed Nov 9 01:15:15 1994 WOW! What a cool show! I can't exactly recall the setlist but I will give the highlights... First of all...Someone must have been listening...because Jimi Thing was definately an extended Jam...pretty long..I don't know about 10 mins...but 8 at least... Second...Cry Freedom! I don't know if he has been playing that lateley but it was sure a surprise to me. exact Dave quote #634: "This is an old one that we haven't gotten on an album yet, but I'm sure alot of you have it recorded." yet it sounded pretty much exactly like it does on Recently EP.. #36 was good also..never seen that either.. Ummm..I am getting a tape sent to me...If anyone wants it...You know what to do..  Top Permalink ### Wait Chapel #### driver8@phy.duke.edu Wed Nov 9 01:17:39 1994 I just wanted to know who's going to be taping/treeing the wait chapel show on fri and if I could get in on this...I'll be there so if anyone is interested in getting together b/d/a the show...I'm not opposed sean ps - thanks for the response on the solo tape those of you who are getting coppies you know who you are... "Savior in a mug,  Top Permalink ### GW!! #### KULPK@tiger.hsc.edu Wed Nov 9 02:32:39 1994 I hope I'm the first one on, if not then I apologize for taking up valuable space by repeating something that somebody else has already said. Anyway, I just now returned from the GW show (2:11am) and I had to throw my opinion in. Good news all, Boyd has finally woken from his drug induced coma! The last show I saw the band play, Boyd was essentiallly in the background not doing much, and from what I hear over this net, others have been saying the same. But tonight Boyd stole the show. This was probably the second best (or at least energetic) shows I've ever seenin my three years of Davedom. The crowd of course was a little unbearable at times, the Dave-come-latelies were out in full force and they brought their Watchtower/ants/Satellite yelling with them. Dave-"this is a new song" Drunken newbie-"Watchtower!!!!" Dave-"No, that's an old song. (expletive)" Rather amusing to those who experienced it. But on the good side, it was good to see Dave get such an excited and enthusiastic crowd. Not to mention that I like the crowd mix of DMB/RR fans, it made things a little friendlier, but don't ask me to explain how. Well enough of my jabbering, on with the setlist! _Seek Up(over 15mins., cool) -Dancing Nancies -Warehouse -Satellite -Ryhme&Reason -Best of what's around -NewSong (Satellite riff, drive in?, get in line?) -Tripping Billies -Jimi Thing (15 mins. just like the old days) -Cry Freedom -Minarets -Typical -#36 -Ants Marching -Halloween (encore) That's it folks. If anyone happend to record this show,give me a call, I would love to have a copy of it. For those of you going to tomorrows (tonights?) show in Lex. I'll see you there. TJ I'll keep an eye out for you. ""Jeff Bagby on sound. He's publishing a book on smelly bits and pieces." As always, for your convenience smoking IS allowed in my messages.  Top Permalink ### Ants solo #### fhouse@vt.edu Wed Nov 9 02:40:06 1994 Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first time Dave's done Ants in a solo show, yes? the song and it's about the only Ants I listen to anymore.. Just letting you know...  Top Permalink ### Lisner auditorium #### jtv2j@henson.cs.virginia.edu Wed Nov 9 02:45:28 1994  I don't think this is exactly right, but It's pretty close, I think. At least this is everything I remember them playing =) Seek Up Dancing Nancies Warehouse Satellite Rhyme and Reason Best of What's Around Get in Line Tripping Billies Jimi Thing Cry Freedom Minarets Typical Situation #36- Ants Marching Well, even if their set list can be predicted by Ben's "Virtual setlist", it evolves enough that shows are significantly different each time. Although, not too long ago, they were stuck on that damn Two Step into Ants Marching, which was great the first oh, five or six times.... I think it was too bad they dropped Two Step and not Ants =) Well, I liked the new song a lot, it's nice that there's now a song where I know NONE of the words to, and bonus, the lyrics are completely unintelligable. Very pleased with that. I don't really think they're stagnating, I think they're evolving a lot, though. Rhyme and Reason used to be a very jazzy and mellow song, and now is a fierce rocker. Typical Situation used to rock pretty hard, and has mellowed out a LOT. Cry Freedom gained a lot with the band backing... And then there's Jimi Thing. Hmm. They were playing it a lot up until about March or so, then it dissappeared for a while. Now it's mellowed out a lot, even if it jams as hard. Last night's jam was VERY incredible. But the one thing I miss about the song is the fourth verse that used to end the song that never made any sense. The jam just ends on a too mellow note for that these days. And I miss the extra lyrics in Pay for What And carter's harmony over the word "doing" Anyway, I personally don't think the music has gotten stale or redundant... (Tho maybe one or 2 songs in particular, on the whole, nope) See y'all tomorrow night! Me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |John Viega "The finest day I ever had | |rust@virginia.edu was when I learned to cry on command" | |University of Virginia | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  Top Permalink ### Re: Lisner GW show #### bmking@mail.wm.edu Wed Nov 9 03:08:35 1994 Second...Cry Freedom! I don't know if he has been playing that lateley but it was sure a surprise to me. exact Dave quote #634: "This is an old one that we haven't gotten on an album yet, but I'm sure alot of you have it recorded." Well, actually I think they have been playing it more recently, and that's just cool as a free slurpee I think. And, I think Dave quote #634 might be somewhere in the 400's.. :) I was listening to a tape earlier tonight and he introduced Lie in Our Graves the same way.. here's hopin' to much funkin' groovin' wed and fri nites.. pretty baby! brett ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brett Kingswell bmking@mail.wm.edu If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss bank. - Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"  Top Permalink ### Re: Lisner GW sho #### CLIFFORDC@urvax.urich.edu Wed Nov 9 04:29:32 1994  hey! you were supposed to be in bed, young man! catcha at the show tonight... hugs, clare ******************************************************************************* *******************************************************************************  Top Permalink ### Re: Lisner auditorium #### btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu Wed Nov 9 09:04:16 1994  Well, even if their set list can be predicted by Ben's "Virtual setlist", it evolves enough that shows are significantly different each time. Although, not too long ago, they were stuck on that damn Two Step into Ants Marching, which was great the first oh, five or six times.... See the thing is that their doing the same songs every night isn't even so bad (or maybe it's that I've given up trying to do anything about it and I'm rationalizing . . .). But they also do things the same WAY every time. Two Step Ants was fun, because we could impress the "dave-come-latelies" (I deleted the post but whoever coined that phrase-- thanks!). At the first note of two step you could tell everyone around you that ants marching was coming soon. They'd all be happy because their favorite song was coming up. At 8/6/94, they pulled out two step best. ha! I didn't know what was coming next and I liked it. I think it was too bad they dropped Two Step and not Ants =) ditto. Well, I liked the new song a lot, it's nice that there's now a song where I know NONE of the words to, and bonus, the lyrics are completely unintelligable. Very pleased with that. Not get in line? I don't really think they're stagnating, I think they're evolving a lot, though. Rhyme and Reason used to be a very jazzy and mellow song, and now is a fierce rocker. Typical Situation used to rock pretty hard, and has mellowed out a LOT. Cry Freedom gained a lot with the band backing... Rhyme and Reason entered its present state in April. (athens shows, or thereabouts). And then there's Jimi Thing. Hmm. They were playing it a lot up until about March or so, then it dissappeared for a while. Now it's mellowed out a lot, even if it jams as hard. Last night's jam was VERY incredible. But the one thing I miss about the song is the fourth verse that used to end the song that never made any sense. The jam just ends on a too mellow note for that these days. And I miss the extra lyrics in Pay for What wasn't it "we tend to walk away from difficulty"? See y'all tomorrow night! Enjoy the show tonight! And if anyone gets to talk to Carter (not likely these days) tell him Ben sent him some pictures. -Ben  Top Permalink ### Wake Forest tix!?! #### bmcclung@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Wed Nov 9 09:16:30 1994 Hey Daveheads. . .I'm a newbie, die-hard, Dave fan who goes to W&L and lives about ten minutes from the VA Horse Center, but I have to work tonight and I can't go to the concert. So I'm looking for tickets to the show Friday night at Wake Forest. Anybody have any? I'm willing to offer cash and Phish bootlegs. Please help. This is my first posting and I don't really understand this whole thing. Hope this message gets some response (and I'm praying for Wake tickets). Thanks. Brian McClung  Top Permalink ### Re: MINARETS digest 342 #### TPUSATERI@tlc-486.clemson.edu Wed Nov 9 09:17:42 1994 If anyone can tell me how to get into the chords file and also see the pictures etc.. I would really appreciate your help. Thanx again.  Top Permalink ### mailing lists #### KOLIVER1@UA1VM.UA.EDU Wed Nov 9 09:50:42 1994 OK-- I just wanted to let you all know that I had an emergency presentation  Top Permalink ### Re: Wait Chapel #### djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us Wed Nov 9 09:52:55 1994  I just wanted to know who's going to be taping/treeing the wait chapel show on fri and if I could get in on this...I'll be there so if anyone is interested in getting together b/d/a the show...I'm not opposed sean I'll be one of several people taping this show, and we will be treeing it if the tapes turn out to be worth it. If not, I've got several other masters I'm going to seed a tree with. I'll be working security at this show, and probably won't have much time to mess with my deck, and/or chat during the show, so I'm going to have to find someone who is reasonably competent to handle my levels and flips if possible. I'll be at the Chapel at 5pm, and don't have to start working until 6:30. Maybe we can have a gathering or something between those times, if anyone else will be there :-). DRINKING in this show. You will be searched on the way in, and we'll be watching once you're in the show. You CAN, however, come and go as you please (there will be wristbands). PLEASE DON'T TRY AND SMOKE IN THE SHOW. You will get PERMANENTLY thrown out. This is the last concert ever at Wait Chapel, and we don't want to repeat the Widespread Panic fiasco ($80,000 damage to the chapel).

Thanks

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djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian   | source for information, you most assuredly do.


### Re: GW!!

#### djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us Wed Nov 9 09:57:21 1994

 and from what I hear over this net, others have been saying the same. But
tonight Boyd stole the show.  This was probably the second best (or at least
energetic) shows I've ever seenin my three years of Davedom. The crowd of
course was a little unbearable at times, the Dave-come-latelies were out in
full force and they brought their Watchtower/ants/Satellite yelling with them.

You've been coming to Dave shows for three years and this was the
first time you've seen people scream for Watchtower/ants/satellite?
You're pretty lucky.  That happens at EVERY show I've been to.

I'm actually sorta glad they've gotten big.  Their sound is well
suited to larger rooms (even if we don't get to hang out with the band
as much before and after).  Believe it or not, most bands actually
SOUND better in large places, because of the improvement in acoustics
and equipment that goes along with the larger theaters and smaller
coliseums.

Dan
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djb@mars.gtcc.cc.nc.us | If someone tells you that you don't need another
Renegade Libertarian   | source for information, you most assuredly do.


### Lex Offer Closed

#### bseal@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Wed Nov 9 10:09:13 1994

I didn't realize so many would want a place to stay.  Although it would
be fun having the entire Horse Center come back to stay at my house, I
guess I'm out of space.  If I didn't mail you back it means I didn't have
room. Sorry, maybe next time.  Enjoy the show.

Britt


### GW

#### kburesh@mason1.gmu.edu Wed Nov 9 10:17:07 1994

I know a lot of people have put out request the GW show already, but if
anyone out there taped it or knows anyone who did, write me and maybe we


### Info request

#### morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu Wed Nov 9 10:34:58 1994

11:34 AM
11/9/94
Please send info on subscribing to the news group.
Thanks,
morgan_dailey@spacemail.jhuapl.edu



### Calling DAT Tapers at GW!

#### wl1o+@andrew.cmu.edu Wed Nov 9 12:28:57 1994

Hey all,
out.  I taped the show at GW on DAT.  I used mikes for Root and was
phsyched to get my first soundboard patch for DMB.  After the show I
listened to the tape and there seems to have been something wrong with
my connection.  There is often a bit of scratchy static whenever the
music peaks (my levels were OK).  I know there were at least 4 DATs
there and if you were one of the I would appreciate any help you have to
offer.  BTW, Root turned out near perfect.  Take it easy, y'all.

- Bill

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### something to say...

#### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Wed Nov 9 12:43:07 1994

so much to say...
but what would i say?  i forgot.

anyway, for the person who was perplexed about my post about dangerous
hours/desperate hours/help myself, yourself/oh hungry boy/in a town
of one hundred more/ the food is out the door......

you say it's been desperate hours in all your years of listening to
dave?  well, if you've been listening to dave since the beginning, that
equals about 3 and 1/2 years, which isn't very long.  anyway, he changed
the lyrics in 1993 from desperate hours to dangerous hours (i liked
desperate hours better, and i liked the song with peter better).  i'm
not sure, but when he first premiered the song, i think he was calling
it "1-800-help myself,"  which is obviously the most cheezy of the three.
then it became desperate hours, then dangerous hours, and then it's been
flip-flopping b/w dangerous hours and help myself ever since mid-1993.

eesh.  it's late 1994....what happened to the time.....

anyway...so some of ya'll tonight.  keep an eye out for me.  don't know
what i'll be wearing, but if you know boofy, blake, clare, or catherine
hobbs, i'll be in that general vicinity.  i'd love to meet some more
people.

ps-jeff, send me a note.  i want to ask you something and don't have your

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### Wake show

#### eam4@acpub.duke.edu Wed Nov 9 12:49:02 1994


I have an extra ticket to the Wake show on Friday night.  I'll sell it to the
first person who e-mails me.  Good luck!


### my next little gift to the net

#### btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu Wed Nov 9 13:43:07 1994


I'm going to start (as of five minutes from now) a thing called
"minarets-history".  As some of you may know, the moose.uvm.edu machine
archives every single post to minarets.

Since today marks one year since the release of Remember Two Things, I
was getting a little nostalgic and curious about what we said about that
album when it came out.

My next message will contain three posts from around one year ago.

I hope you all enjoy it and let me know if there's anything in particular
you'd like to see in this series.

I hope to have the next one ready for monday the fourteenth, or thereabouts.

-Ben

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### Dave and Tim

#### Jon.D.Stahl@williams.edu Wed Nov 9 13:45:45 1994

I like to briefly and shamelessly grovel for a copy of a dave solo or
dave and tim show (not necessarily last week's since it sounds like
there weren't any SBD patches...)

If anyone feels kind enough to help me out, I've got some good stuff
to trade, including a copy of 12/11/93 Williams College, featuring a
one-time only song called Route 2, written on the bus while delayed in
a snowstorm...

Thanks a bunch,

Jon.


### Different review...

#### btanen@netspace.students.brown.edu Wed Nov 9 13:47:23 1994


Minarets History Issue 1:
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STU_RCTHOMPS@JMUVAX.BITNET

GREAT STUFF HERE....

records here in harrisonburg, and i'd have to say
that's this is a really strong debut cd, setting
themselves up for a phenomenal follow up. ant marching,
recently, satellite, christmas song and the song that
jane likes are pretty much exactly what you expect them
to be. but the rest of the songs have some interesting
quirks--the intros to tripping billies and one sweet
world were left off, and the jam sessions to minarets
and seek up weren't included.  i'd have to say that i
like the way that this is set up, because it will help
make their live shows even more powerful as they become
more well known.
guitar on i'll back you up and seek up, but as far as
i'll back you up goes, i prefer stefan's bass solo.
and don't worry about the lack of the violin solo on
seek up, this studio version is _really_ good, probably
the highlight of the cd, and runs a full 7 1/2 minutes
as is.
track appended to christmas song.  when you get the cd,
just let the cd go.  it's a reprise of a song on the
cd, and i'll leave it at that.  anyway, i've got some
serious lyrics file editing to get done, so i'll just
let other people continue with comments on the cd...

rick thompson                            stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
jmu box 5388
harrisonburg, va 22807

it's gonna be an eternity in here...

-------------------------

was a great show, as usual, and I started to snooze a
little toward the end.  Then out of nowhere, they
ripped into Seek Up (my vote for the best DMB song
yet).  After they finished that set, and I was waiting
fearfully for the lights to come on, Boyd and dave came
out for Angel from montgomery.  I think it's been a
while for that one. It was great.  In spite of a lot of
shouting for Halloween they wrapped it up with
Warehouse.  All I have to say is us folks in chville
don't deserve this. Finally, I think we should all
shower ellis of lemuria with gifts, money and first
born children for running the Bayou tree.  What a
show!!!!!  If anyone missed the signup, get in touch,
and I'll spin you a copy.  Pardon the spelling/grammer,
it's been a long night.

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HAVE NOT HEARD THE ALBUM -- THIS IS SOMEONE ELSE'S
OPINION.  However, it is a friend of mine who goes to
UVa and someone who has been listening to Dave for well
over a year and going to shows and all that.  So kick
back with an open mind and read this and see if you
agree with any of the points.  Please don't scream and
yell and get offended -- it's just another viewpoint.
I don't want to see another bitch session like after
"Rift" came out and half the Phishnet said they had

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doomed. It's fair at best. He did, however, have a
substantial following waiting at midnight for its
release. Marcus and I went dwon to Plan 9 around 12:30
or so and the line was out the door, around the
building, and down the block. Very long wait. We said,
"He's good, but he ain't that good..." So we went back
to the house and sent some pledges to get it for us.
They didn't get back until about 3:30. Stood outside
and froze their nuts off while we enjoyed some fine
billiards. It was great...
understand what the fuck he was saying because he
sounds like he's trying so hard to enunciate. So that
sucks. He's not a very good singer to begin with, and
when you can understand what he's saying, it's even
worse. Also, although most of the album is live (from a
show I saw, anyway, as a a matter of fact), they knew
they were being taped and took a little off it to make
sure they played the right notes and stuff. So it's
kind of a flat performance. Also too, they left out
some of the better songs to put in shit like 'Tripping
Billies', a song we all know and hate. No 'Halloween',
no 'Dead and Gone', no 'Spotlight'. I don't think
'Warehouse' is on it, either. Oh yeah, it ain't on no
Columbia, either. Some basement label like "Rag Bone
Records" or "Bona Rag" or something.
the tape with decent stuff he's played. Who knows,
maybe people who haven't heard good live shows will
like it. Maybe he'll make some money and hire a real
sax player and bassist. Or just get Greg Howard to
cover both of their parts. I'm sure he could do a
better job by himself than both Leroi and Stephan...
-----
alternative thoughts?
Reid
-SPICE@DICKINSON.EDU

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Coming in Issue 2:

Bye for now,
Ben

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### someone might think i was drunk...

#### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Wed Nov 9 13:48:52 1994

you know those three consecutive posts from me yesterday that were full
of grammatical errors, typos, and overall just made me look drunker than
a herd of front row dave matthews fans?  well, i wasn't drunk.  i was just
in a hurry to get to sockiology.

i had something relevant to say.

honest.  but i forget things.

what's my name?  oh, there it is in my sig.file.  is that right?

rick?

hmmmmm.  i think i like sydney better.

sydney chittick.

whatever...

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### ok, i have something relevant now...

#### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Wed Nov 9 13:52:58 1994

so much to say is supposed to repeat the bridges and chorus several times.
i don't know how many times you've heard it, but it's called so much to
say for good reason.  do you have any copies of it with harmonica and
A COPY OF 11-17-92!!!!!

in fact, if everybody who has a copy of 11-17-92 sends one copy to somebody
else, i bet we'd cover quite a bit of this net.  anyone who has that show
knows that it should be the quintessential part of any dmb boot collection,
along with big league chew.

btw, how many people would agree that so much to say is about learning how
to talk?

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#### jtv2j@henson.cs.virginia.edu Wed Nov 9 14:20:05 1994

So Much to Say was played twice in one week in the end of February,
for somebody's (not my) birthday.
And Help Myself was called Dangerous Hours at some point before it
became Desprate Hours, but Dave had some problems cramming a 3
syllable word into a 2 syllable slot, so he changed it... at some
point he decided to go back to dangerous, but if you notice, he now
crams the whole word into 2 syllables, cutting out the 'er'.
I don't know if he called it 1-800-HELP-MYSELF or what, I'm thinking
more of the stages of the song itself.

John

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|rust@virginia.edu                           was when I learned to cry on command"  |
|University of Virginia                                                             |
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#### clf132@psu.edu Wed Nov 9 14:34:32 1994

Hello, Ive posted this before and Im gonna keep doing it until someone can
help me. How do I unsubscribe? I know that out of all the people on the
net, at least one of you knows how  to unsubscribe. Well, where are you?
*Please* get back to me!! clf132@psu.edu



### Friday's show

#### driver8@phy.duke.edu Wed Nov 9 15:06:13 1994


Jenny and I will be getting there around 7:30, as well as The Admiral Mr.
Cory C.M. Rayborn and company - I got tix through dave and they will
supposedly be waiting at the door...does anyone know where these tix
might situate me in the chapel?  If you do then you'll know where to find
me I'll probably be wearing a black SUB POP hat and a UVa track shirt
(don't hold me to that, although the hat is almost definite) hope to see
some of you fellow old guard DMB fans...



### personal to brendan conk's freind

#### msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu Wed Nov 9 15:28:54 1994

hello
one Brendan Conk today and he didn't include return postage.  he said a
freind talked to me about a rusted root show i have but i have no record
of getting anymore blanks from people (i save all emails from people i'm
tradeing with) so if your brendan's freind tell him to send an envelope
with return postage to me and i'll do the tapes when i can get to them
(it's going to be a wait).  bye all and sorry for the waster of bandwith

matt

msweeney@muselab.ac.runet.edu


### Much 2 Say

#### jdittric@fpc.com Wed Nov 9 16:01:39 1994

Ok, here's how rumors get started...
I'd heard that So Much 2 Say was an individual's struggle
with homosexuality...
Complete with references - - "I say my hell is the closet and I'm
stuck inside...", but who knows???  Anyone???
I know Dave loves to assume roles in his songs...
Similarly, "Recently" can be interpreted as an individual's struggle
with an interracial relationship.  Hence, the cover of the "Recently" EP.
I guess I could be restating the obvious... is all of this common
knowledge???

JD


### A Tape, Shannon Worrell, and the Newsletter

#### sseremet@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU Wed Nov 9 16:18:38 1994

exciting message to date, but I am wondering if anybody can help me out,
no one responded when I posted this the first time and I was wondering if
that was because no one saw it.
---------- Forwarded message ----------

could I find my first DMB tape.  DMB has spurred my interest in
collecting live music, and I was wondering if anyone could be so kind...
Colvin's voice twin?  And will I be able to find her album in stores?
and haven't seen a single newsletter yet.  Does it take a while to
process?  Has there been any recent newsletters?
excellent probably like the rest of you.  If you don't want to post your
reply to the net (or if you feel it would be more wasted space), feel
free to email me personally.



### exclusivity stinks (long)

#### jgraves@world.std.com Wed Nov 9 16:32:46 1994


Hi all.

I am a fairly recent addition to the the growing legions of Dave Matthews
fans.  My first show was about 1 year ago in Boston, and since that time,
his music has really become something special to me.  It resonates
through my life, my hopes, desires, fears, etc.

What troubles me, however, is that it seems I somehow don't qualify as
enough of a legitimate fan to be taken seriously on this discussion
group, which I've been reading for a while without ever posting.  Some
people on this net act like Dave's music belongs to them personally
because they've been fans longer than anybody else or because they've
gotten to hang and talk with members of the band.  Meanwhile, people who
have not heard of Dave Matthews until recently, but love his music all
the same, are relegated to the category of Dave-come-latelies...

I think this title was meant to apply to drunken\obnoxious\ignorant
people at shows, but it still sucks.

Yes, there are people at shows who will never be quiet when you want them
to...

Yes, a lot of people like Ants Marching (I imagine most of you did once)...

Yes, a certain intimacy has been lost as they move to larger venues...

But it is ignorant and stupid to blame this on newer fans.  I have as
much right to be at a show as you do.  Therefore, as more people want to
see the band, it is only logical that the size of the venue will increase.
As more people go to shows, the chances are higher that there will be
people present with whom you would normally never get along...

I had the good fortune to see these guys in a small club\bar in Colorado
this past year, and I can understand how unique and special the feeling of
such shows are.  But instead of complaining about all of the new fans
which make such shows extreme rarities these days, I suggest we
treasure the experiences we have had and wish that everyone could know
what it is like.

Basically what I am saying is this.  Those of you who have known about
this band for a long time are lucky.  You've seen and experienced more of
this band than I probably ever will.  I would hope, however, that you
could now make room for us newer folks who (believe it or not) get as
much enjoyment out of a show as you do, and whose enthusiasm should
compensate for lack of experience.

I love this music, and so do you.  That's all there should be on this net.

Thanks for the bandwidth.  This is directed at no one in particular and I
speak for myself only.  Please flame me personally if you must vent.

peace and good listening,
jerm

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\ Jeremy C. Graves    [jgraves@world.std.com]   Cambridge, Massachusetts  /



#### NebuIous@aol.com Wed Nov 9 17:25:45 1994


also, just how did an acoustic #36 sound?  that must have rocked your
world.

It sure did.  Tim played super-funky-cool-pseudo-bass-stuff. uh huh.

and when i did dave play the tripping billies intro?  i haven't heard

He played the tripping intro on the only Dave&Tim show I have, 8/25/94
(birchmere, right?).  Yup yup.  So I guess he does it solo now but not full
band.  That's a shame.

'deck the halls... it's spring again'

(well, at least for a day)

Oh, SCOTT FRAZIER, uvm.guy, get in touch if you still want to trade... i'm
fixin tuh git sum taipes (my best southern spelling. huh huh.)

Benji Man

just another memo from the cellar,

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### New Years Show

#### fostecl4@wfu.edu Wed Nov 9 18:46:57 1994

Does anyone know how I can get tix to the new years ball at the RIchmond
Marriott? Or if they're sold out? I really need to find out as SOON as
possible! I know all that it includes, and all that..I just need ticket
information! Thanks! - everyone going, get psyched for the Wait Chapel
show at Wake Friday night!!!!Carrie

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Carrie L. Foster
Box 7883                      " Take time to laugh, for it's the
Winston-Salem, N.C.27109             music of the soul...."
(910)759-1181
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### Irving / Tim Song

#### IBASSIN@WESLEYAN.BITNET Wed Nov 9 19:37:56 1994

A couple of notes.... as far as the Tim song that someone referred to as
..oh fuck, I forget what that person called it.. in any case, the Tim song
from the Birchmere is called "The Hardest Bit" (Danny- did I read your handwriti
correctly on that last word? is it Bit or Part?) You Are My Sanity and Stream
are also Tim songs which he played at Wetlands and some other acoustic gigs.
As far as Irving Songs, I was calling from the balcony for Angel so Dave
turned to Tim and asked "Angel?" but right then a whole slew of people screamed
for #36, so you know what happened.
In terms of the Irving Crowd, I was really annoyed, there are just too many
people who are only interested in themselves. I think it bothered Dave too,
he came out to sing with Shannon and everytime he mumbled "Almost an Angel"
(ironic, huh?) the crowed screamed and drowned out the music, he laughed
at the crowd. When he came on with Tim he asked the crowd to maybe keep it
down to "a tenth of the bellow" that is standard for shows beacause this
was an acoustic show and should be quiet. He said he wished we all had seats
and next time he'll get seats for us all. Regardless, some guy in the front
left just wouldn't stop screaming "You go Davis! Yeah Dave! Woooo Davis!"
So dave responded, "I don't think he gets it" well, the guy was so crazed
that dave actually referred to him that he screamed louder, then Dave said,
"This guy THINKS he's gonna get laid after the show" The guy screamed louder,
so dave countered, "he wants attention, so lets all look at him and make
him feel like an idiot" It really was refreshing to have an artist address
the problems we sometimes face when trying to enjoy shows. The guy kept screamin
but dave played on. At set break, the stagehand came out and told the guy
he'd have to be quiet or leave. Well, maybe someday people will learn about
respect for others. At least the guy can go around and brag that Dave Matthews
thinks he's an asshole.
Later, Ian
ps- anyone know where I can get a Tim or TR3 CD?


### Re: random

#### mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU Wed Nov 9 19:50:36 1994



1.  What two things am I supposed to remember?



### NYE ticket info?

#### ddevito@sodium.helios.nd.edu Wed Nov 9 20:40:35 1994


Hey now,

the New Year's show, like, WHEN exactly tickets go on sale,
and HOW exactly someone on the net could get tickets (I seem
to remember something about a block of tix being set aside for
minaretters...)?  Also, since I'm not 21 and won't be until
next May, should I be concerned about the possibility of not
being able to, shall we say, imbibe at this show?  I mean, if
they want us to shell out 50 bucks for tix, are they going to
care about carding at the door or at the bar, etc? I'm sure
somebody out there has some info about the policy at the
place where Dave is playing.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Dominic

PS I'm STILL wondering if somebody could help me place a date

____________________________________________________________________________
| Well I've got style,          | Dominic Jules DeVito, Necrophiliac       |
| Miles and miles,              | University of Notre Dame, South Bend, IN |
| So much style                 | ddevito@darwin.cc.nd.edu                 |
| That it's wasted...           | "Wake up to find out that you are the    |
|                     -Pavement |  EYES OF THE WORLD...."                  |
|__________________________________________________________________________|



### Tape Deck For Sale

#### grayp@pinn.net Wed Nov 9 23:08:03 1994


I'm selling my Onkyo TA-R301.
single well auto reverse cassestte deck.
i have all manuals & box.
it's about 1 year old & i have a 3 year extened warranty on it (but i'm
not sure if it's transferrable).

i haven't decided on a price, but let me know if you're interested.

gray

Silence comes with no instructions!



### Irving Plaza

#### rkc@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Wed Nov 9 23:44:27 1994

I'd like to get a copy of the Irving Plaza (11/9) show.  If anyone can
is willing to help me out let me know. Thanks

Rob


### bagby's buddhas. you must bow down...

#### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Thu Nov 10 02:44:06 1994

well, i went through this elaborate process to write down precise times
for tonights show, but silly me, i apparently left that particular index
card sitting in a field in lexington, and i'm not driving an hour back
there to get it.  biggest problem being that the rusted root setlist
was on that card.

oh well.

but here's what i thought, anyway...

stagnation is NOT the word.  dave band rocks.  enough said.  i still
strongly hold to my conviction, though, that they are not a band worth
following across the country, but damn straight they're a band worth
seeing when they come through town.

rusted root (this is just a list of the songs they did in no particular
order)

(*== boyd stepping in with fiddle in hand.  pretty unreal)

jimi thing (12 minutes)
song that jane likes
lover lay down
what would you say
tripping billies (with the original intro, though no screaming)
dancing nancies (didn't catch what dave could have been.  but
warehouse
cry freedom  (oy)
recently (12 minutes.  but i think that rr should have come back out.

christmas song (completely dave solo.  just him, his guitar, and a

a new song!!!!!!!!!!! (no name, though.  not surprising, seeing as it
--halloween.

my tapes turned out great, but as i've said before, i can't trade.  i
have no equipment, and troubling gregg all the time to use his probably
wouldn't be a good idea.  anyway, there were 13 analog decks going and
a dat, so getting this show won't be a problem, if you really want it.

if you can't figure out what i'm talking about when i say schmuz, go
listen to either of your cd's, and when you hit 'skip,' think "schmuz."

rusted root rocked.

-seeing clare, boofy, blake, cathy, and meeting a shitload of people.
-bowing down to bagby's buddha.
-zoning to the perpetual motion thing over bagby's shoulder.
-kelly.  poor, sweet kelly.  (but, alas, it just wasn't meant to be;)
-staring at the sky (with a gun in my hand, staring at the sea, staring

i'm not going to talk about the crowd, because i didn't go to analyze
the crowd, just hear some good music.  i didn't succeed.  i heard some
_GREAT FUCKING_ music.

AS WELL AS a special performance of the band with the richmond symphony
on february 14th.  look for those tix on dec 3.  no price on the latter,
but, as we all know, the former is 52.00 plus.  but no fret.  everything
is charging \$70 for their nye bash in dc.

well, 8 o'clock approaches quickly, at which time i have an engagement,
so perhaps i best get some sleep.

thank you for riding minarets.net.  please push forward on the restraint
bar and exit to your left and WALK SLOWLY down the exit ramp.  and enjoy
the rest of your day here at kings dominion.

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________
__________________________________     \_________________________________
but kelly...what will become      \   rick thompson
of the children?                   \  stu_rcthomps@vax1.acs.jmu.edu


### Lexington Show

#### fhouse@vt.edu Thu Nov 10 03:01:31 1994

just start off by saying that off all the shows I've been to that crowd was
by far the worst I've ever seen. It started off with two guys next to me
getting in a huge fist fight and beating the shit out of each other until
ten more poeple jumped in. The body surfing was to be expected, but at one
point I actually saw 5 people carry another person around for 5 min. because
there was no one else to pass her to... Dave is great music but his
following seems to be getting worse and worse...
said "sorry if I'm not talking as much as usual but I'm not used to this
many people, I'm scared shitless" (or something like that)
had incredible jams!! Also, if anyone hasn't had the chance to see Rusted
Root they are a MUST see, they really know how to jam...
weekend... Look for  6'6" guy with a white hat floating around the soundboard!!



### Sweet show, how about a tree!

#### sctm@vt.edu Thu Nov 10 03:03:51 1994

The Lexington show rocked!  I won't go on,  because I couldn't do it
justice,  but they jammed and funcked it up.  I took about 10 people with me
that had never seen dave,  but loved the CD.  They danced and went crazy and
loved it.  I would do almost anything to get my hands on a tape of this
show.  I know it will be a hot one,  but I would love to have as well a
bunch of the new comers that came with me.  Like I said,  if whoever taped
it wants to work out a tree,  or if you want to trade,  or if you need
money,  whatever,  just drp me a not and lets get this going!  Love,  love,
love!
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"



### Help Myself

#### gap3s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Thu Nov 10 03:39:01 1994

Hours/Help Myself has arisen, I thought I would put in what
I could.  My first knowledge of the song comes from the 5/26/92
show at Trax.  Dave introduces it as a new song call Help
Myself.  Obviously is has gone through changes since.  But
does anyone have a recording of it prior to this date?  If
not it would seem the that was the original title.
show was good, I wanted to be there but damned classes and
exams get in the way (weak excuse, I know, nothing should take
precedence over Dave but...)  Anyway, I still am happy everyone
out there enjoyed ut and I will try not to be bitter that
I missed it.  (Obligatory grovel)  So does anyone out there
want to appease my broken heart and trade the show to me?
I have some pretty good stuff to offer in return (old, as mention
above, and new)  And while I am on te subject, I am still
searching hard for a tape of the 10/14 show in Athens.
I am willing to do anything for it!  Well, it is late and
I have the damned exam, had better do damned well on it.

Greg

P.S. Jon R. at U. Richmond -  Are you out there?  Write
me and say hi if you are.

P.P.S.  Random question, but perhaps food for thought -

What are follows the the Dave Matthews band to be called?
I have been trying to think of something but I seem
to lack the originality.  The whole (favorite band)-head thing seems
over done, let's come up with something new.  How about it?



### Re: Help Myself

#### toolemd@duc.auburn.edu Thu Nov 10 04:17:40 1994



What are follows the the Dave Matthews band to be called?
I have been trying to think of something but I seem
to lack the originality.  The whole (favorite band)-head thing seems
over done, let's come up with something new.  How about it?

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### exact date and place of Miguel Valdez Benefit?

#### tnb2d@server.cs.virginia.edu Thu Nov 10 09:53:02 1994

Hi there,
Miguel Valdez benefit concert?  All I know is it wasn't in
Charlottesville and it was some time in March of '93.  Dave says
something about Tim Reynolds being "from over the hill in
Charlottesville" so I'm guessing Richmond or Harisonburg or something
like that.  BS&M(sp?) and TR3 also played at this show.  Thanks,



### your nye should be no different than anyone else's

#### STU_RCTHOMPS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Thu Nov 10 10:19:01 1994

it's funny.  at last year's nye show, i ran into a freind of mine shortly
before 1 a.m. who lived across from me freshman year.  i was 20 last nye,
making him 19. he was so tipsy that he nearly knocked over 7 tape decks
in the middle of the second set.

what i'm wondering is how much he must have consumed before the show to
still be that drunk at 1 a.m.

:)
hakuna matada.........any self respecting drunk would spend 53.00 to
not see dave on nye.  so what the hell...

____________________________________
"it is indeed a great gift of heaven\____________________________________
__________________________________     \_________________________________


### Lexington!

#### ShanHop@aol.com Thu Nov 10 10:39:09 1994

As was already stated, the Lexington show was INCREDIBLE!  Thing is, I can no
longer live a happy and fulfilled life without a tape of it.  If anyone could
help me out, drop me a line.  I'll trade, send money, send tapes and postage,
promise my first born child, whatever is necessary.  (sorry for the
grovelling, just couldn't help myself)

Anyone know how to get a copy of either of Rusted Root's CDs?

-Shan


### Tapes

#### kburesh@mason1.gmu.edu Thu Nov 10 10:40:01 1994

first few people who reply.  (I'll take blanks or trades.)

Second, I'm wondering if anyone out there has a tape with Kristin Asbury
singing Angel From Montgomery.  I've heard her sing at lots of Dave shows
over the years, but there was one show in particular during the summer of
1992 (around the time when Boyd got married) when they had a lot of guest
musicians all at one show.  If anyone has any idea what show I'm talking
about--it was a pretty memorable one if you were there--please write me
back.  Thanks! -Kim


### Tree for 11/9/94?

#### mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU Thu Nov 10 10:44:08 1994

Anyone setting up a tree for the 11/9/94 show?


### Re: Help Myself

#### mcelvain@ucsu.Colorado.EDU Thu Nov 10 10:46:42 1994

How about Jammies instead of DMBheads.


### lexington

#### JAROUNDS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Thu Nov 10 11:38:36 1994

well, the show had it's fair share of asshole/obnoxious/ignorant dave
come-latelies, i have bruises to prove.  i first want to apologize for
blocking anybody's view for the first half of the show as i stood up
on the railing in the front.  the thing is, we have these things called
lungs and when a big metal bar is pushing against them, they don't work
so good, so that was the only foreseeable way i could get them to properly
function.
the show kicked ass!  some great instrumentals especially since the
groopies couldn't sing to them.  speaking of groupies (i guess i better
watch what i say here though), carter's new (?) girlfriend was in front
of me with the security people.  this petite, cute little blonde who
couldn't be a day over 19.  she was noreen/doreen/whoever dave dedicated
cry freedom to.  i hope for the band's sake she's not a groupie, and that
she really likes carter for who he is, but you never know.
i met some great jmu goers too, and some were new to dave and weren't the
typical come-latelies :)  harrisonburg is know as the 'friendliest city'
so maybe that's it.
sorry for such a long and somewhat pointless post.
:) jaime


### Boyd got married?

#### sctm@vt.edu Thu Nov 10 11:54:35 1994

When,  what,  where,  how,  and to whom did Boyd get married?  I never knew
about that.  I started going to see Dave at the Floodzone all the time near
mid to late 1992 and I never knew?  Please inform me and maybe the rest of
the DMB fans.
Scott Miller-
Virginia Tech
529 Shanks Hall
Blacksburg,  VA 24060
sctm@vt.edu
"Turns out not where,  but who you're with that really matters!"



### Toogies.

#### mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu Thu Nov 10 12:25:59 1994



hey all. Dave came out riding a horse last nite. nuff'said.

had a blast dancin' near all the hardcore minaretters.  good to see
you in reality, finally, even though i knew ya'll already, but the names
now have a face.  cool.....see you new years unless your in Richmond
and need a place to crash....

don't remember "blood of the children" at all, but around that time
i was sitting way in back smoking a cig and contemplating the
existence of us all. so. i think thats what that song is for anyway.
most people use that song to go get a beer if ya' know what i mean.

CRY FREEDOM CRY.

the horsey show was great but i feel some void. i feel like we went
on an incredible journey through time and space and i got left behind
on the moon. i'm running out of air!!! i want something to fucking
happen.only my driving and dancing partner last nite would
understand this post. life is purple and wavy. PEACE.

******************************************************************
as a post post. bagby is crazy. he shared an amsterdam treat...how
it got here is bagby's karma...he rules.

as another side note. blake and clare. Em arrived home safer then
when we left. i drive well...maybe ignore the lines sometimes...but
i used to take a coloring book and flip over to the backs of the
pages and create a drawing..."...don't throw away your playful
beginnings..."    lates.


### lexington

#### hls5c@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Thu Nov 10 12:27:19 1994

incredible. absolutely incredible. show was a little slow starting off but
once they started jamming there was no stopping them.  i also didn't
recognize 2 of the first songs --- anybody know what they were? (songs 1 and
3 i think, but don't quote me). too bad the audience wouldn't shut up during
cry.

eat drink and be merry,
heather



### WOW.

#### mus4rlm@cabell.vcu.edu Thu Nov 10 12:34:57 1994





### Yes, another post on the lexington show..

#### bmking@mail.wm.edu Thu Nov 10 13:29:58 1994

for davenet - check out rr if you can..  I've seen them 3 times now, and they
really put on an incredible show.  About 1/4 of the way into Ecstasy, I saw
an odd object spinning through the air over the stage..  Then I noticed one
of the drummers was reaching to grab another drumstick...  he'd broken the
thing right in half.

as mentioned before, both bands sets were sick..  when boyd sat in with rr,
I was close enough to see the expressions on the faces of the rr members..
they all had that expression of awe that seems to be common when you're
around a daveband member..  they looked like they were thinking, 'damn, we
NEED one of these.."

I didn't wander back to the soundboard until about halfway into dave's set,
but did rr not allow soundboard patches?

but I use that to write, so maybe my left arm instead?  'course, if you don't

it was very nice to meet and re-meet some people, & looking forward to seeing
some of you at wfu.. :)

take care,
brett

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Brett Kingswell                                           bmking@mail.wm.edu
If only God would give me some clear sign!  Like making a large deposit
in my name at a Swiss bank.           - Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"



### how to get NYE tix??

#### l_leclai@hamlet.uncg.edu Thu Nov 10 13:34:42 1994

Hey there y'all!

today, but does anyone have info on how to get NYE tix??  I don't
remember seeing a post on it.

See y'all at Wait Chapel tomorrow!

-Dash


### To all those who will be at the Wake Show

#### AMZENDEL@unca.edu Thu Nov 10 14:06:33 1994

Looking foward to getting to actually meeting some of you in person tomorrow
night. I stop by the soundboard to check out who all is there. I'll be wearing
a Timberland hat (blue with cream-colored bill.) Not sure exactly where my
seats are (I phone ordered the tix, but I memember the lady on the phone said
something about front-center, so they should be pretty desecnt.) But form What
I heard about the Widespread show at Wait, the reserved seating quickly turned
into gen-admission.  We'll see what happens.

Unless (for some god-forbidden reason) the show sucks (which I don't think is
really spossible), I will definately want a tape of the show.  So to whoever is
taping, I'll trade.  I have the 10.26.93 show at Trax-UVa that is really nice
and you must have it.  There are five dave solos at the beginning and Halloween
rocks for about 15min.  A must have.  Will be willing to trade withanyone who
gets copy of the Wake show.  Will stop by the soundboard to work something out.

I'm meeting (tentatively) my friends (who arenot on minarets) outside around
6:30 and there was apost on here that other netters will be outside Wait around
7:30.

Hope to meet you all there!
TOMORROW NIGHT BABY!

alex



### No beers, just the Buddha pleeze.....

#### cbuford@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Thu Nov 10 14:10:55 1994

Ahhh Rick and I will only understand the subject title....

I won't write a full review, seeing as that there were a ton, but a few

Following my own advice, I had a great time, plenty of room to dance with
all my close buds and a great view from behind the soundboard. No
bruises, my lungs were fine (except for my cigarette smoking).

went quite well. With Bagby's generosity and my Y-jacks, the signal was
split 3 ways and all tapes should come out well, (except for those few
irresposible on the end) Rick saved the day with a power strip. THANX :-)

don't wear shoes when possible
Spoon whenever possible
Take good notice of the items placed on top of the sound equipment..
Listen to more Root...
Avoid the clap....

anyway.....
latr.....

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|Washington and Lee University	       	Lexington, Va. 24450		|
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|	"You know what they call a 1/4 pounder in france?"		|
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### more on lex.

#### JAROUNDS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Thu Nov 10 14:36:59 1994

also, 'could i have been your little sister?'
:) jaime


### Re: random

#### campb_c@cs.odu.edu Thu Nov 10 14:49:16 1994



1.  What two things am I supposed to remember?

i think this has been covered before..but...1. Love your Mother 2. Leave
nothing but footprints.

2.  What's the story on Peter Greisler?  Was he a full time member of DMB?
When and why did he leave?  Did he only play keyboard?  What's he

I think this is in the FAQ (or should be...)

Peter was a full time member until spring of 93 (March 23rd was his last
show...) I think that's still winter..umm...  He played Keyboard,
Harmonica, spoons (once or twice it think...) and I saw him play his face
and bald head once.  He left the band and moved to Tibet, where he's
studying ancient texts in search of the one true revealation.

peace and be safe y'all...
Blake



### what happened to DMB

#### dwp7a@watt.seas.virginia.edu Thu Nov 10 15:06:21 1994

I attended the DMB show last night in Lexington.  I have two
good things to say, Halloween rocked and Rusted Root is an
incredible band.
The crowd last night was by far the worst crowd I have ever
seen at a show. I saw two fist fights (not arguments).  In the
parking lot some assholes were throwing ice at this car and for
about twenty minutes these assholes just yelled at people in
there cars trying to start fights.  There were dumbasses
walking around yelling 'the nitrous is over here' and 'where
did my bong go'.  There was room to move in the crowd by the
stage so I moved to the stands to dance and so I could enjoy
the music.  Worst of all, people started clapping during the
slow part of an acoustic version Dave played in the encore of
Christmas Song.  Oh, everywhere I turned people were making
out, I hate PDA (public displays of affection) and not trying
in the least to be discrete about it.  It made me sick.  I
think Dave didn't say much because the crowd was so shitty.
Oh, what the fuck is up with this crowd surfing crap.  Go see
Rancid or Avail if you want to crowd surf not dave matthews.
HIs music is about love and drugs not beating the shit out of
people.  How did he get such a shitty following when he plays
such wonderful music.

I very frustrated fan

Back to the Earth,
Dennis "The Maestro" Pike

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+  "It's the one that says Bad Mother  + Dennis Pike          +
+   F*cker" Jules                      + P.O. Box 4271        +
+  "Your lucky, I'm in a transitional  + Charlottesville, Va  +
+   period right now" Jules            +            22905     +
+  "I'm the foot f*ckin master" Jules  + dwp7a@watt.seas.     +
+  "Hungry I am, Yes, HMM HMM HMM Yoda + virginia.edu         +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


### Re: ok, i have something relevant now...

#### NebuIous@aol.com Thu Nov 10 16:04:42 1994


so much to say is supposed to repeat the bridges and chorus several times.
i don't know how many times you've heard it, but it's called so much to
say for good reason.  do you have any copies of it with harmonica and
A COPY OF 11-17-92!!!!!

a) the point is that he NEVER PLAYED THE CHORUS at irving plaza.  the only
other so much to say i have is 11/25/92 (i love ben tanen).

b) i have 11/17/92, but the fuck who i traded with screwed up the second set,
and it's the dead or something.  i dunno what live dead tapes sound like so
maybe it's not the dead, but it sure sounds like there are a fuck-load of
people screaming at the band.  oh, and i don't really like this mystery tape,

HUMPH.

Bernie

just another memo from the cellar,

************************************************************************


### miss green jean.

#### BLBLALOC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Thu Nov 10 16:12:00 1994


a friend of mine is looking for two tickets to the wake show--just email me any
information.
dave got kinda big kinda fast, no?
kinda expected tho.

last night's show was alright i guess.  it was nice to see some familiar faces
again.  and i'm not sure if this has already been done or if it was just a
dream, but i think clare should be elected honorary den mother. :)
and cry freedom, which was not even on the setlist(?)
rocked rocky ricky? roll butter & jam -

brian.
"a dog is conscious, and dreaming, engaged in continual spiritual experiences as


### Re: lexington

#### mverspoo@liberty.uc.wlu.edu Thu Nov 10 17:03:21 1994


In regard to an earlier post in which Carter's girlfriend Doreen was
mentioned...  (Although it's not really any of our business)....
Doreen IS in college at Hollins, her and Carter have been dating for over
a year now, and she is REALLY nice and likes him for who he is not what
he is.  Enough said....don't give her a hard time.


### show id

#### @uvmvm.uvm.edu:SREILI31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU Thu Nov 10 17:04:03 1994

Are tapes of the 11/9/94 show circulating yet? I'd _really_ like a copy
of this one...

Steve